Women Preachers - The Spirit of Jezebel Lives

[supercesarpoolmaster]

ok,thats right,finally somebody talking the TRUTH OF GOD

[kla7672]

No bishopess, nor deacconess. Bishop is the husband of one wife and so is the deacon. Modern bible translations are like dictionaries. They change with the times. Is Christ divided? Then, why debate the word? God, Christ, man, woman, 1Cor.11, Paul didn't mention marriage in that chapter. He's writing on church structure. God has the same structure in the Church as in marriage, and in salvation, John 17. Stand up man of God and be who you're called to be! Holiness and perfection is to be one in

[kla7672]

Show me women pastors in the bible!

[kla7672]

Jesus warned the angel of the church in Thyatira that thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which call est herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols. She called herself a prophetess. Jesus called her Jezebel. Rev. 2:20. The Holy Bible is the word of God, truth and lies are recorded in it, so we can mature in Christ. Don't pick and choose. If no faithful man, God will use whomsoever he will. Don't add nothing to it nor take awa

[kla7672]

@MsBREATHOFLIFE The Holy Spirit is in a Christian to kick out and mortify everything that is against God. A lot of our spiritual enemies and worldly ways will not leave us immediately. We have to be taught how to live holy. We all have faults. As the Spirit of God wills we'll discern and deal with the Jezebel. No matter if a man or a woman is overtaken by it. We notice worldly ways in church. God reveal it to us and we'll see those same spirits there too.

[kla7672]

@MsBREATHOFLIFE I'm not speaking of physical sex. Words are seed. They're planted in our minds. We hear them repeated and those words define our character. Words do grow in us. We speak them from our hearts to others and that cycle continues. We can choose to accept them or reject them, even in church. Take heed to what we hear and who we hear from,.

[MsBREATHOFLIFE]

And for you to put all women in that catagory as a Jezebel is not right. If they are preaching the Word, how can they be wrong for that? It's a matter of fact Paul didn't say that a women should be quiet in the church. That was the way Paul read the letter, and his scribe wrote it the way it was read. In chapter 7: 12 But to the rest speak I not the Lord. Verse 7:6 But I speak this by permission and not of commandment. I Tim 2:12 Paul said, (but I would that women) He didn;t say God said that.

[MsBREATHOFLIFE]

The women Jezebel didn't call herself a prophetess of the Hebrew God, she called herself a prophetess of Baal. You need to study to show your self approved of God. God is the one who raised up Judges also, as Deborah was a judge that God raised up. She was a military leader also. That was a man's job. But God saw fit to give it to a woman.

[ttsqas]

@blondepepsicola " I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;" 1 Timothy 2:12 explicitly addresses women being in authority over men tin the church.

Lastly, preaching the gospel and being a pastor are two totally different things. Anyone can preach the gospel, man or woman.

[ttsqas]

@blondepepsicola There are too many scriptures that distinguish between women and men for one to foolishly suggest that God places no distinction between the sexes in areas other than justification/salvation.

To quote Galatians 3:27 to justify ones rejection of 1 Timothy 2:12 is plain deceptive and wicked.

[ttsqas]

@blondepepsicola "There is a scripture in the bible that says when we come to the Lord we are neither Greek, nor Jew, Nor Gentile, nor woman or man".

Scripture also says to "rightly divide the word", 2 Tim 2:15. In doing so I should point out that The verse you quoted from Galatians 3:27 is speaking about our equality in justification not in leadership.

[anniemaggie53]

Problem with old Paul is that his comments addressed a specific problem in a specific church. The other problem is that somehow the idea had developed among certain groups that Paul's words are God's words. This just puts an end to any discusion whatsoever.

[ottodubon]

God called men to lead... i dont think its bad for women to preach the word.. but 1 Corinthians 15 says " Let your women keep silent in the church, for they are not permitted to speak, but they are to be submissive, as the law also says

[kla7672]

Jezebels r not Christians, but she is in church doing the teaching. Fornication is spiritual too.

[MsBREATHOFLIFE]

@kla7672 No Jezebel was not in the church teaching this, she was a prophetess of Baal, that is a false god. Now they did have a church but it was not a church of the Hebrew God. She sacrifiaced her childern to a idol. Where do you get that having sex is a spiritual thing? Your crazy. Paul said marrage is honourable and the bed is undefiled.

[biblicalcreatures]

Jezebel was PAGAN! She was not Christian! She worshiped BAIL! Leave the women preachers alone! You should not have used the Jezebel scripture to try to speak against women preachers. Jezebel was not even a Christian!

[ooDuckey01]

Men were meant to rule the family and society. Men's brains were wired to lead the family and protect adn feed the family. Women's brains are wired to guide the family, bear and rear children. Society's governments are based on the family of God. When the family gets corrupt, then government quickly follows. Why? Because we vote for who best suites us, our needs, in government. So when the family rejects God's family, society as a whole is corrupted and quickly collapses. Now globally.

[gretchenmahn]

Men like that never get wives. men like that can't figure out how to get a woman in bed. That is how they get to e men like that.

[KittyKandyKat]

Man, do I feel bad for your future wives, if you haven't already beaten them to death for speaking above a whisper. You're idealogies are most certainly primitive at best.

[vincent15641]

Compare this message with the video called "What Women Want is Worship".

[uncleoscar7]

HEY! ALL YOU MILLIONS OF SOULS IN HEAVEN BECAUSE OF WOMEN PREACHERS, GET OUT OF HEAVEN! YOU BROKE THE RULES!

TO CONDEMN ANY PERSON FOR PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD IS AN ACT OF BLASPHEMY

TO TELL A WOMAN TO HOLD BACK THE WORD OF GOD PUT IN HER BY THE HOLY GHOST IS EVIL, EVIL, EVIL! I REBUKE AND I BIND YOUR ANTI-WORD AND ANTI-SPIRIT PROUD SELF-RIGHTEOUS DRIVEL! IN JESUS NAME SHUT UP TILL YOU ARE WILIJNG TO SPEAK THE WORDS OF THE HOLY GHOST ONLY! BLESS ALL PREACHERS OF THE WORD

[jab1107]

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ.

[jab1107]

1 Cor 11:11 In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman.



[jab1107]

Way to take something entirely out of context.

[NinjaJDG]

it really makes me sick when people plug stuff into the word of god without studying it and remaining within the truth of the word. when 1 corinthians 14:33-35 says that women ought to be silent in the churches it didn't mean outside of church, it mean't within church and maybe the body of christ as far as instructing and authority goes. However, it doesn't mean that a woman cannot evangelize to those outside of church and outside of the body of christ.

[coolwater55]

@NinjaJDG

Did you really study that passage and discover the myriad of discrepencies in translations and context of 1 Cor 14?

Did you find anywhere - where JESUS denies women?

Are you a Paulist and chauvenists who found one lone or two lone passages to justify subjucating women and making them inferior to men?

Paul also says it is recommended to remain celibate to REALLY follow JESUS well.

What did JESUS say? or does JESUS tell us TODAY from the HOLY SPIRIT.

[NinjaJDG]

it says i suffer not a woman to "TEACH" nor usurp authority of a man. How many people are sensible enough to realize that teaching and preaching aren't the same thing. they are two different things and two different spiritual gifts. I don't have time to look up a whole bunch of scriptures but if any of you ignorant "scholars" really want to know about women preachers, you should all do your homework.

[mtlindale]

Wow another video condemning women for speaking the truth of GOD. If only people would study, is it to much to ask?

[knowledgebk305]

about time somebody exposing these female pastors

[coolwater55]

Rm 16 clearly states women as church leaders.

Rm 16:7 Junia (a woman) is outstanding amoung apostles.

NO WHERE does JESUS say women can't lead or preach. HE makes NO such statement and instead has women at his side, aiding him and in his ministry right through to his death on the cross and his resurrection.

WOMEN and John did NOT abandon Jesus at the cross, the other disciples fled!

JESUS gave a woman the JOB of being the first preacher of the GOOD NEWS of HIS RESURRECTION.

[momalew2btrue]

Oops. I guess I'll just testify then cause I can't keep it to myself...How Jesus Saved my soul and broke the bondage of sin from my life. It's kinda hard to shut up cause I was on my way to hell and I couldn't turn around no matter how hard I tried but when I humbled myself and cried out to the Lord Jesus Christ, I felt the burden of sin lift and the Joy of the Lord come in, PRAISE GOD I'm Born Again!! A Brand New Creation in Christ Jesus, Where there was Hate, Love now abides PEACE too......

[chomper1977]

Wow. That is sexist. Keep women silent in the church! Whats next? Keep women silent while men beat and disrespect them? You are so wrong and you will see that when you meet maker!

[carolLDickinson]

Preach it Pastor! Right on! The Word of God does not change! Thank you for preaching the Word of God... THE BIBLE! AMEN!

[KeneshaCoulibaly]

2 Timothy 3 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

[KeneshaCoulibaly]

Man, the times we're living in . . . My God. It has been written. Still, if I weren't seeing it with my own eyes, I'd say . . . "no way will people go against God's word so fearlessly." Yet, we do. We twist it for homosexuality's sake, for women preacher's sake, for all the things we want.

[KeneshaCoulibaly]

God has made HIS WORD PLAIN. WHAT IS CONFUSING ABOUT IT? THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO OBEY IT. IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH WHAT PEOPLE "WANT" TO DO, SO THEY TWIST IT TO FIT THEIR STANDARDS. GOD HELP US. HELP US TO DENY OURSELVES TO MEET YOUR WILL AND YOUR REQUIREMENTS OF US. It is NOT ABOUT US! I can find scriptures where God used women and says they will "prophesy," but no where will you find they should preach or usurp authority over man. IT IS PLAINLY WRITTEN. Either obey or rebel. Up 2 U!

[KeneshaCoulibaly]

Thank God NONE OF US HAS A HEAVEN OR HELL IN WHICH TO PLACE ANYONE. IT IS ARROGANT to suggest we know the hearts of others and who may be on their way to hell . . . especially when it's spoken against one who has only brought the Holy Scriptures. If anyone is angered by this passage, they are angered at the Holy Scriptures. I don't see what Matt: 7:22-23 has to do with this video . . . other than to be a defense for someone who wants to rebel against the recited scriptures. Let's all pray.

[KeneshaCoulibaly]

There is nothing here that says she is of a jezebel spirit because she's simply a woman. That would be stupid. It would make all women jezebels. It says, because of her disobedience to God's word that she is a jezebel spirit. If a man is disobedient, after his own lusts, he too can be of a jezebel spirit. It is going against God's word that makes the difference. It is the bending and twisting and redefining of His Holy Scriptures that establishes the jezebel.

[down236]

U r wrong

[down236]

U r sadly mistaken God will use who he want ur interpretating the word wrong ur not a real prophet if u were u would knw the word

[gooksound]

Jezebel's sin wasn't that she was a woman

I think that to say that Jezebel is any preacher woman is a blasphemy

The spirit of Jezebel on Revelation is fornication and idolatry

Meet Jesus Christ

[martinthezman]

@gooksound Jezebel ruled over her husband. You know: MATTHEW 7:22-23 IS ONE OF THE SADDEST PASSAGES in all of the Bible. This is where Jesus tells of many who have forms of religion but not true salvation. And these go merrily on to Hell, thinking they are en route to Heaven. It is tragic that multiplied thousands who are confident of heaven, go unwarned into eternal damnation; because they have never repented and trusted in Christ.

[LeshaAnn]

Jezebel's sin wasn't that she was a woman trying to speak in or lead any church, but that she refused to convert to Judaism at all. You're entire theory is built upon a flimsy and false house of cards.

[o0HannahMarie0o]

Well then, i guess if, as a woman, I am clearly not welcome in your religion, considering I am considered less than a man, I guess I won't be following this religion any more. Nor will any of my family. Nor will any woman I know with any self respect. I'm glad that weight is off my shoulders!

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o Well then thats fine, because I guess all you had was the weight of "RELIGION" any ways. You've never humbled yourself to the MAN CHRIST JESUS, and surrendered to his will, and to his WORD, in LOVE. If you don't want to keep the Commands of GOD and the teachings of Jesus and his Apostles, then you don't REALLY want to be a Christian any way. Satanism might suite you better, they have one law, "DO WHAT THOU WILT"... you'll enjoy the 'freedom' they give Feminists and Lesbians.

[o0HannahMarie0o]

@martinthezman I guess you're right about me not wanting to be a christian then, but i certainly dont want to be Satanic. Rather, I'll join a religion that accepts people for who they are, rather than making them feel bad about what they are even if they can't control it (how the hell was I supposed to know I'd be born a girl?). All I'm saying is that it's unfair to limit what women can do just because of what some ancient book says. New interpretations please.

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o God made me a male. As a male I can never know how it feels to carry your child in your womb or how it feels to give birth, or to nurse your child... I don't feel 'bad' about this, I understand that the role of mother, was reserved by GOD for the FEMALE. It doesn't mean that God hates me, or thinks less of me than a woman, but he has different roles for men and women. God loves men and women the same, but he has given the role of leadership in the Church to the man.

[o0HannahMarie0o]

@martinthezman I'm sorry I just don't see why a woman can't be a leader as well. I dont like following the archaic belief that a woman's role is in the home popping out babies and taking care of them all her life. Not my cup of tea, and I think a lot of women agree with me that they'd rather be going to work as well than sitting home alone all day

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o There are two basic principles to satanism: "Do what thou wilt" and "Do what makes you happy"... Any one who follows these principles are at heart, a Satanist.

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o What you are doing is rejecting God's law, God's Lordship, and God's purpose. And setting up your own SELF-WILL against the Divine will. It is called "pride" and "Rebellion", and it leads only to destruction. You cannot be saved until you come to the end of yourself, and receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You must be BORN AGAIN to even see the Kingdom of GOD...

[o0HannahMarie0o]

@martinthezman See, the thing is, I don't see it that way. I have my own beliefs and my own way of doing things. This doesn't mean i dont believe in God, it just means that I look at the world a little differently than you. Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so, and therefore I don't believe i am rejecting God's law and Lordship and purpose or that I need to be born again. Just because I don't follow christian traditions doesn't mean I am a bad person.

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o According to Jesus Christ you are a bad person, there is "none Good no not one. We all have sinned, not just a little, but a whole lot. We are sinners. We have rebelled against the Law of GOD and we are criminals. God must punish criminals, the wages of sin is death. Jesus Christ came and died for us, in our place. So we can be set free from the guilt and power of sin. If we reject Jesus Christ, then we will die in our sins and go to hell. Jesus wants us to love and obey him

[o0HannahMarie0o]

@martinthezman Does that mean you are also a bad person? And I dont think I can love someone who requires me to obey them and threatens me with eternal damnation. My religion says I'm going to be just fine without following jesus

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o I am a very great sinner. I thank God for saving me and coming into my heart and giving me his Spirit to restrain my sinful nature. If you murder someone what will the government do to you? They will punish you. When you SIN you break God's laws. And God is just so he must punish sinners. Jesus is the Savior, who is able to pardon you; but your pardon costed him his life. The only way to get the Pardon is to BELIEVE UPON HIM. When you BELIEVE you will repent, and love him.

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o Jesus said, "If you love me keep my commandments". The only way we can prove that we love Jesus is to obey his word. And that is the only reason needed for a Child of GOD to keep his Commandments... People Go to hell because HELL is the place where you pay your own sin debt. Jesus is the Savior who is able to pardon us from sin and give us a new life. A SAVED person loves Jesus, and the way they show their love, is by obeying him. w w w . babylonforsaken . c o m

[o0HannahMarie0o]

@martinthezman I find it unfortunate that you feel like you can condem people to hell just because they dont believe in the same religion as you. Really, I feel bad that you are so close-minded and unaccepting of people.

[martinthezman]

@o0HannahMarie0o Either Jesus Christ is truly the Son of GOD Or he was the biggest liar that ever walked the earth... I know him to be the Son of GOD, I know he only spoke the truth. I know that he died for sinners so that they could be saved. He said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, NO MAN comes to the Father but by me" and he said, "Except you believe that I am HE, you shall die in your sins".. "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved, he that believes not shall be damned".

[SxIjAmS89]

hmm What if every single man was wiped of the face of the earth whos gonna preach then there aint no men oh noo lol

[martinthezman]

@SxIjAmS89 The BIble teaches the woman can't usurp the authority over the man, by taking the role of teacher/preacher... so if there was no man, it would be perfectly fine for women to teach the other women... Thanks for the comment, and God Bless.

[edwardpf123]

Amen and amen!

[spkthtrth]

 This is the truth!

[SuperWordreader]

@ObtainingTruth When it comes to telling lost souls about salvation there is no difference. If you have truth share it to whomever needs to hear it!!! WE as born again believers are commissioned by God to do so.

[SuperWordreader]

GOD is not the author of confusion...but man is....for all who believe women shouldn't preach and use that scripture women should keep silence in the church...do women in your church sing, praise the Lord verbally, pray out loud or do your women sit silently during Sunday school and morning worship, Bible study..what about the prophetess Deborah in Judges 4 who had a husband but she was judge over a whole nation...GOD's chosen people...stop the madness..JESUS sent the women to tell the news...

[theredorc]

Is there in the Scripture a woman prophet? Any of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ being woman?

1 Timothy 2:15 "But women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."

When a woman ask Jesus Christ go give her the living water -

John 4:16 He told her, "Go, call your husband and come back."

Please christian womens dont try to distort the Word of God because of pride, we all must be humble and be happy in our place in God's Plan.

[opsvideo2008]

Thank you, Brother Martin for your video and the words you wrote below the video. The word of God is clear on the matter of women preachers. Women should not be teaching and preaching to men in churches. Nor are they to lead churches.

[vctoriousfaith]

I Forgive you brother. I pray that the Lord Has mercy on you and shines His light and His truth to you. May His nature and His love heal every part of your soul. May you stand blameless before Him on that day.

[vctoriousfaith]

Before you accuse someone being a Jezebel you have to make sure you are not being led by that Spirit yourself. We are so quick to judge and critisize falesly without properly understanding. First of All Jezebel was a very wicked woman who maskirated herself to be RELIGIOUS but provoked people to commit imorality and perversion. Its a Spirit that operates in Imorality, Perversion, Control, Manipulation, Murder. Has nothing to do with gender it can attach itself to man also if you open yourself.

[vctoriousfaith]

I am just so sad to see how the enemy comes and perverts truth. He can come even use words in the bible and completly twist them. He comes to kill still and destroy. He hates the body of Christ and he wants to do every thing to bring division, accusation, and discort. I am sorry but i have the same Holy Spirit of God you have and its given to every believer who recieves the Lord. Sometimes we think we are being led by the Lord but is nothing more than an eletistic self righteous Spirit.

[TheUnknownApostle]

Amen brother! Preach the real word! Rebuke them witches! but the problem is, is those weak girly false men that gives them authority!

[KEVI3000]

thats the truth

[BlessedWoman7]

I agree that women should not be the head of the church. I experienced women who say that God called them to be preachers and all they did was caused chaos in the church. My last experience was so bad because women preachers are very controlling and want to even take control over your marriage. It is not their place to bring division in marriages but they do. I have experienced this twice in two different times in my life and I refused to be apart of a church lead by a woman pastor again.

[Chaunee2005]

@BlessedWoman7 Not every woman pastor is like that....especially if she has the Holy Ghost for real. You can't say that, just because you had a bad experience with a woman pastor/preacher that she is not qualified to be one. If that is the case then some of these men need to take a seat, because little do you know, it is the men pastor's who are sleeping the flock and letting everything go on in there churches. GOD can use whomever HE please!!

[martinthezman]

@Chaunee2005 Bad experiences isn't the problem. The Word of GOD forbids women from holding the office of Pastor/Bishop. They are not permitted to teach men, or to usurp authority over them. They are called to be "Silent" in these positions. The HOLY GHOST always agrees with this BIBLE. The Spirit inspired this Bible, wrote this Bible, these words are SPIRIT. Any spirit that will not OBEY the BIble is not HOLY, it is UNHOLY. Many spirits are gone out posing as the Holy Spirit, be not deceived.

[Chaunee2005]

@martinthezman No where in the Bible did it say a woman cannot be Pastor or cannot Preach. That is false!!

[martinthezman]

@Chaunee2005 PLEASE Open your Bible and follow along with me:

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop [pastor] then MUST BE blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife... apt to teach

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

I hope this helps! God Bless :-)

[Chaunee2005]

@martinthezman Ok now you go get a dictionary and look follow along with me...Bishop- A high-ranking Christian cleric, in modern churches usually in charge of a diocese and in some churches regarded as having received the highest ordination in unbroken succession from the apostles. Not every man is called to be a Bishop. Pastor- A Christian minister or priest having spiritual charge over a congregation or other group. A layperson having spiritual charge over a person or group. A shepherd.

[Chaunee2005]

@martinthezman Preacher-One who preaches, especially one who publicly proclaims the gospel for an occupation.

1.Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. GOD can call whomever HE pleases. And mind you he said, nor to usurp authority over THE man, not A man. It's a difference, Paul was talking about what was going on in the Corinth church, those women were out of line and being boastful.

[martinthezman]

@Chaunee2005 Women can share the gospel, they just can't teach men in the church or hold office. What Paul wrote to the Corinthians was shared with the Laodecians. He also told the same thing to Timothy at Ephesus and Titus at Crete. It is for ALL CHURCHES: "1st Cor 14:33-34 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace. AS IN ALL CHURCHES of the saints let your women keep silence in the churches". You can rip those books from your Bible or admit you don't believe it, OR OBEY IT.

[SuperWordreader]

@martinthezman So you are saying ALL pastors are bishops!!?? ..to be effective he can't be a pastor, else the flock will not see much of him since he will be traveling checking on the churches under his covering. Men love that TITLE and not the responsibility that comes with it. Anyway I quess your women don't wear ANY type of gold or pearls or expensive clothes, and that once again she is completely silent during service. ITimothy 2:9,11. ICorinthians 14:34. Who was Paul talking to and why?

[SuperWordreader]

@martinthezman The word said let women keep silence in the CHURCH, not a position. I don't believe in women bishops, elders, or deacons because the Bible states it is a MAN. As for women preachers where does it say women cannot carry the gospel? As a born again believer WE are commissioned to do so, or was Jesus telling the Apostles to only tell men that. I quess women don't have spiritual gifts either. How long are your church services? Is that how long the women in your church sit silently?

[BlessedWoman7]

@Chaunee2005 Do not get offended by the comment posted a few months ago. You will not change my view on women pastors and my experience under the leadership of a manipulative woman pastor. I will not be apart of another church lead by a woman. I belong to a church lead by a male pastor and it is completely different without the chaos and gossip that the woman pastor kept up in her church.

[BlessedWoman7]

@Chaunee2005 Your comment is vague because I did not mentioned anywhere in my post that a woman pastor cannot be qualified, but they should not be head over a church. Again I will not change my view on women pastors. I cannot judge you because of your view on men pastors but I will say that men should be the head of the church and not a woman because they bring confusion.

[BlessedWoman7]

@Chaunee2005 Women pastors bring division in marriage because if a man follows a woman pastor in some cases he will begin to be manipulated by her. Women that have control over ministries tend to become authoritative over their members. I thank God everyday for getting me out of that church because it caused me depression because of the immoral things this pastors was attempting to do to cause my husband to leave his marriage.

[BlessedWoman7]

@Chaunee2005 My family and friends encouraged me to leave because they knew how unhealthy it was for me to be under her ministry. SO I WILL NOT CHANGE MY VIEW ON WOMEN PASTORS AND NO THEY SHOULD BE HEAD OVER THE CHURCH

[Chaunee2005]

@BlessedWoman7 I'm not trying to change your views on Women Pastor's, and don't want to. I'm not offended by what you said at all, because it was not directed towards me and even if it was it would take more than that to offend me. My Pastor is a man too, but I've also been under the leadership of a Woman, and the only reason why I left is because I moved out of the state and she was wonderful. That is why I said you can't say all Women Pastor's are like that.

[boazjay]

GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH YOUR WRONG OUT BURST>>>>>>>

[noproofforjesus]

so lets just rap this up you then seem to think because Jesus came that this is a new deal with human kind, except the old testament was gods word that god said is eternal if you dont know what that means is that the old testament is still in effect if you say no god changed his mind well god is the same as he was from the first day to the last he is never changing. saying he thought the old way was to hard or not correct shows god made a mistake. making him not god. ttyl

[martinthezman]

@noproofforjesus It is called COVENANTS. The old Covenant was an agreement that made through Moses with the Children of Israel. The New Covenant was an agreement made through Jesus Christ with all who will believe upon him. Two different covenants, the same Almighty God, whose Word is eternal, and is always right.

[noproofforjesus]

@martinthezman so then the jews have to still kill stuff to be cool with god and the rest of the world just has to believe. either gods covenant end with the jews or didnt like he said this covenant is forever. this would mean the second covenant is for the rest of us but that is just crazy why would god make his chosen kill stuff to be forgiven and just let everyone else just believe give me a break your logic is unsound. but then you believe in magic men.

[martinthezman]

@noproofforjesus No, the Bible says that the first covenant has passed away. The only way to be "Cool" with God is through the New Covenant, which is entered through the Shed blood of Jesus Christ. That is why Jesus told the Jews who did not believe in him : "Ye shall die in yours sins, because ye believe that I am not he"

[noproofforjesus]

think about it a creator of the universe is a sexiest bigot that through out the bible kills baby's orders the death of entire tribes of people because they are on his land that they had no clue they were on and then he tells you how to own slaves this is crazy. then you you guys say Jesus made this all better, but Jesus never said dont own slaves a matter of fact Jesus said respect your master even if he is horrible because the next life is gone to be all roses and daisy's.

[noproofforjesus]

this is great i love to see Christians some how try to say it is ok for a woman to preach when the bible say this is just not so, but why would an ex christain/ atheist like to see this? well it shows you all pick what you like and through out what you dont like. it shows this book was written by men, when men ruled woman with an iron fist like that of a slave. this preacher is right the bible does say this but what he is wrong about it is its just a book written by men not a god.

[BCRIBB4real]

this man is not abused or has been abused buy some women because he has righteous indignation." what a typical ploy to discredit the truth of God going forth!

i get so tired of people saying someone has an abuse issue when they stand up for truth... read your bible more! ask God to fill you with His Spirit so you can be able to rightly divide the word of truth... and stop speaking against the preacher who declares the word of GOD!

WE ALL HAVE SINNED, there is none righteous NO not one!

[BlessedWoman7]

@BCRIBB4real I know what you are talking about. People do not want to hear the truth and the sad thing is that they know what is in the bible but do not want to live by it. I am had such a bad experience from being under the leadership of a woman pastor that I will never forget but as a Christian I forgive her even though she hurt me. Can you believe women pastors if they do not like you that they will try to insult you in the pulpit?

[BCRIBB4real]

you get a lot of negative comments form people who love to have it so!

because they haven't been converted themselves and are compromising their walk in everyday life in some way." rather than use scripture for instruction in righteousness, for correction, and rebuke they would rather tell the man of GOD to keep silent than obey what the word does say." are these people the ones whom Paul says will not give ear to sound doctrine? if you reject any part of the Bible as Truth how do you obey it?

[martinthezman]

@BCRIBB4real Thanks Bro. I've been told that i am "hiding behind the Bible" by other 'Christians'. And you know I am. I don't have to defend it; for it is a Lion, I just have to walk behind it, and follow it. I know the Holy Spirit loves truth, and rejoices in truth. Those who don't have love for the truth of God's word will be sent a strong delusion. The Church world is in Bad shape, they hate the Words of the one they claim to Love. They are "of the World", that is why they receive it not.

[weepingprophets]

Great Video!

[timestandingstill]

Do you know how many churches have been led astray by Man??

No disrespect but I have heard some messages that have been very Spirit filled by women.

Learn the difference between Flesh and Spirit, and rightly divide the word of God my Friend.

[martinthezman]

@timestandingstill How do you "Discern" the spirits, if you reject the Word of God, the standard by which all things are to be put to the test. Next someone is going to tell me, "I heard a 'spirit-filled' homosexual preach..."

[timestandingstill]

@martinthezman Good God man can you not think of anything other than homosexuals??

I don't reject the word of God, And I don't condone homosexuals.

Now to rightly divide the word of God takes more than applause from your chosen congregation, sorry but I had to say that because if the people in the church didn't pat the preacher on the back they would no longer be members now would they??

I bet you don't have very many women in your church, who speak up do you?

[timestandingstill]

@martinthezman If you heard a spirit filled homosexual preach, you need to Know what spirit that was in.

The word of God speaks against such things !!!

Rightly divide the word of God My Friend.

[timestandingstill]

@martinthezman When I refer to Spirit Filled I was referring to Capital (S) Spirit, not the spirit you are referring to. The bible says to try the spirits in the churches, you will know wither they are of God or not by the Fruit of the Spirit. spirit - filled homosexuals do not meet the capital S.

I think you would do better by making peace with your better half, unless that is another he, and if that is the case you have no peace, because that is unnatural.

[DavidBenAriel12]

Read

"God Doesn't Ordain Women Preachers!"

I just read an abominable article written by a proud and stubborn woman attempting to justify rebellious women doing what only God has ordained men to do: preach from the pulpit as ordained ministers.

[BCRIBB4real]

@DavidBenAriel12

my friend i know what you are talking about totally and it is prophecy!

that spirit permeates in and out of the church today and mostly it is associated with proud, haughty, arrogant and rebellious women. and yes even some men in most cases... but mainly women that desire to fight against the authority of the man in biblical leadership... and once you expose this spirit it will rise up and fight you like crazy... be alert! it's strong in charismatic circles too.

[1260days]

Who is the disciple who bears fruit? It is the way to tell the sheep from the goats. Fruit = deeds done in Christ.

[martinthezman]

@1260days Read first john and put yourself to the test. "Examine yourself and see if you be in the faith or not".

[1260days]

Is this video for "building up" or is it causing division? Is it promoting the love of God, or is it causing quarreling among the brethren? Take a look around and see. Better to focus on OBEYING the gospel. Love the Lord God with all thine heart soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. If we bit and devour each other, what kind of fruit is it producing? Rotten fruit. Grow into full maturity in the love of Christ that one another would be built up in the true faith.

[martinthezman]

@1260days Christ divides the sheep from Goat. The True Word of God divides asunder. God's children submit to its rule; goats reject and rebel against it. Unity in falsehood comes to death. God calls his children to come out from the confusion of false, Bible rejecting relgion. Gnostics spiritualize the clear directions of the word for the Church, and make it nought. God's children love and respect the word and seek to obey it.

[1260days]

Is this video for "building up" or is it causing division? Is it promoting the love of God, or is it causing quarreling among the brethren? Take a look around and see. Better to focus on OBEYING the gospel. Love the Lord God with all thine heart soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. If we bit and devour each other, what kind of fruit is it producing? Rotten fruit. Grow into full maturity in the love of Christ that one another would be built up in the true faith.

[1260days]

No one can deny that there has been woman after woman of false teachers, Joyce Myer, ect ect ect. But for the thousands of false women there are billions of men. find a goon "man" preacher, and you found gold. It is indeed a rare thing. These waterless clouds are not exclusive to women.

[1260days]

I am a man in the flesh but a woman in the spirit. We, as Christians are the "Bride" of Christ. Christ is the Head of the body, the church is the wife. NO wife can speak without the authority of her husband. So, as a man, I speak under the authority of Jesus Christ. NO MY OWN authority. Jezebel represented rebellion to God by her flawed sinful actions that contradicted God. I will pray for you. We love ya Martin!

[martinthezman]

@Lachance8 The word of Almighty God forbids women from holding the place of preacher or teacher, bishop or even deacon in the Church. People throw this command away to satisfy women who are not submissive to the word of God. "Women's Lib" didn't change the mind of God. And all of your reasoning and twisting cannot change the plain word of God. Women who stand in the pulpit are out of order. And your "Suspecting" is silly. Like alot of the 'prophecies' I have heard. You do not believe the Word.

[Lachance8]

@ALittleBrother Amen ALittleBrother! Leave it to you to speak perfect truth! We woman love you! And Dianna!

[nlowell1]

At the 2:55 mark you mentioned a N Carolina female preacher challenged. If you're of God let me die. If you're not of God let you die. The female preacher ran out into the field and died.

It should be very easy to verify this. Could you supply the female preacher's name (who died). City or town where she died. The name of the church that she was preaching at when she died. If you supply the above I'll be glad to research the rest and do my best to prove this story true beyond question.

[ALittleBrother]

@nlowell1 I think you ask a great question here, BUT, somehow I missed the answer. Should be easy to confirm. The Word of God requires 2 or 3 witnesses to establish any testimony as true. Loved your question and I would really like to hear Martin's witnesses that this was a TRUE story. I have strong doubt's that this ever really happened. If God struck down every preacher Not of HIM, there would be few MEN alive today.

[boltingpuppies]

Hello Martin. I believe in order in the congregation.I also believe Prophet Joel who said both men & *women, both sons & *daughters will prophesy in the last days. We are even closer to the very last days than the early church was.One definition for 'prophesy' is 'preach'. That aside I have a sincere question, maybe you can help?

Paul said:

"for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says."

Where in the law does it say this? I can't find it anywhere.

[martinthezman]

@boltingpuppies Context "Prophesy" is to speak a "thus saith the Lord" to receive a direct revelation from the Lord. The Law where women must be in submission to men was given in the garden: Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

[boltingpuppies]

@martinthezman Yes, and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy--everything about Him. I thought you would refer to the Genesis passage, it's the only thing I see...except I don't see anything about 'speaking'. This must be what Paul is talking about as I don't see anything else that comes close and he does refer to the garden deception. Thank you for your reply. Blessings in our Shepherd.

[1260days]

@martinthezman Adam = Christ Jesus, Eve = Church. No man can speak unless he has his "covering" which is Christ. No woman speak on her own authority, but as she is lead by the Holy Spirit.

[InHISWord2]

Martin,

Am I to believe that due to some woman preaching lies in the church... that ALL women do?

If this reasoning were true...then all the preaching men who have been busted as fornicators, wife beaters, murders, ect. must mean that ALL men behave this way.

This line of thinking would prohibit ANY HUMAN BEING from preaching in the church. JUST WHAT THE ENEMY WANTS!

The church hiearchy that you mention is about ACCOUNTABILITY to GOD.

[Lachance8]

@InHISWord2 Sis, Excellent summary of this! The best I have ever heard. Please pray about doing a vid on this!

[InHISWord2]

@Lachance8 To God be the glory for sending his Holy Spirit to lead and teach me the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ and God's Holy Kingdom. Yes, I will ask Jesus in prayer regarding producing a video exposing this topic.

[InHISWord2]

Pt 4

Regarding "I suffer not a woman to teach" as stated by Paul. Here he was letting the men know

that the men were to take on this responsibility and not to burden the women with it.

S.But you may witness to all the world that you would.

A. It is great that you agree with Jesus! Praise Jesus! Mk 16.15 Jesus said "Go ye into

all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."

This video depicts all women who would teach or preach as Jezebels....this is error.

[martinthezman]

@InHISWord2 No Paul was stating the ORDER. Women are to submit to the man, not to usurp authority. When a woman stands up in a congregation and pretends to teach/preach she is out of order, and lead by a spirit of rebellion. The Video is clearly dealing with women in the CHURCH.

[InHISWord2]

Pt 3

Regarding women to "keep silence" ...This context is regarding the women learning. It is comparable to a student being required to be silent within the classroom. The women are to

ask their questions of their husbands at home.

1 Cor. 14.28 there is a command that men are to "keep silence in the church" as well. Is this talking about men not preaching? No, it is not. And neither are the statements for women to

"keep silence in the church", talking about women not preaching.

to pt 4

[InHISWord2]

Pt 2

My Reply: This is scriptural perversion, and out of the context of it's original meaning.

Jesus gave many commands regarding "to preach" See: Mt 10.7 &27, Mk 16.15, Lk 4.18-19, 4.43, 9.60 Not once, does Jesus say "but forbid the women to preach".

Nor is there even one scripture where Paul states that women are not to preach, within the confines of the church or anywhere else.

Reply continued on part three

[InHISWord2]

Part 1

Answers to your questions brother Martin:

Q."so you preached or taught in a church service?"

A. NO, I would only step within 4 walls, and do that, if Jesus required it of me.

Q."did you personally witness to these folks?"

A.YES. I am part of the "church" (the body of Christ).

Jesus is my head, my husband, my very life. Jesus Christ is my GOD.

Your Statement: "In the Church" women are commanded to be quiet and not teach.

My reply is on the next comment for part 2

[nlowell1]

Here’s something borrowed from a friend's post. I won’t say who she is. I personally love what she’s saying in this post. Here it is:

We are in the last days!! The only way we cannot preach..is if we limit the Holy Spirit or resist Him. Man can not tell us to sit down and be quiet when our Father is telling us to tell others about His son and the good news. Hallelujah! God bless you sis. I love meeting sisters who have been baptized in the holy spirit.. Jesus bless you

[InHISWord2]

I disagree with this video. Paul was shaming the men...they were not doing as they were supposed to. The enemy would like all women preachers and teachers to cease reaching the lost. God is no respecter of persons. Jesus commissioned all of us to reach the lost. If I stopped doing as God would have me do...the 4 souls that Jesus used me, to lead to HIM, just this past week, may have been lost! Their blood would have been on my hands. I answer to GOD, my LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ , not men!

[SEK4110]

@InHISWord2 Amen sister! I suppose this man would have something against the appointed by God Judge Deborah. There was not a man courageous enough to protect Israel against its enemies, so he appointed a woman.

[Lachance8]

@SEK4110 I agree with you and InHisWord2. This is misquoting scripture. Jezebel is not ALL woman! I obey God not man!

[martinthezman]

@Lachance8 There is nothing uglier than a woman who will not submit to man and God. Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands... chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

[Lachance8]

@martinthezman Martin, I do not know why you are so ugly to me, but I not respond in ugliness. I don't believe in "Chiurch" to begin with as I believe they are man made and that the disciples met in houses and on the hillsides, just like the Lord did! God is not a respector of persons and that includes woman. I am so thankful that Brian and I have a relationshship that is not built on chauvinism. I am a great wife to him and he is a great husband to me. We serve God together. End of story!

[Lachance8]

@Lachance8 "Church" miss type!

[Lachance8]

@martinthezman Martin, Please think about what Carol is saying. As for me, I do believe in being a keeper at home, if It is possible. But I do not put down woman who work outside their home, because I have had to do that at times in my life. We all do what we have to do. The times in the Bible days were different. They did not have the expenses that we have today. My husband is the head of our home, but he does it in love, not this horrible "I am above you" attitude that is on so religious men

[shanecruey]

@SEK4110 Whats wrong with you people? You quote a verse from the old testament, when Paul told us what was to be done "IN THE CHURCH." Deborah was not a "priest" but a judge, but that is besides the point anyway. What Part of "I suffer not a woman to teach" do you not understand. Paul said that if a person thinks of himself as spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that he wrote are THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. Are you being spiritual by not believing Paul's words?

[SEK4110]

@shanecruey You have obviously not spent a great deal of time studying the word of God so I will be polite and tell you that God's people perish for lack of knowledge. You think I quoted a verse from the old testament? This proves have not studied. I did not quote a verse. I feel very sorry for you. Very sorry. Do not bother to respond I will not answer you. You need to invest more time than you obviously have if you want a true understanding of God's word.

[shanecruey]

@SEK4110 Sorry, I didn't mean that You actually "quoted" this verse, but rather reffered to it. Anyway, I think Ill trust Paul, not you.

[Lachance8]

@InHISWord2 Amen Sis! Keep doing what you do for the kingdom! Martin, I am shocked at you!!!!

[martinthezman]

@InHISWord2 so you preached or taught in a church service? Or did you personally witness to these folks? "In the Church" women are commanded to be quiet and not teach. But you may witness to all the world that you would.

[InHISWord2]

@shanecruey

2 Peter 3:16 (King James Version) 16As also in all his (Paul) epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Preaching and teaching are two different matters. More study of the Word of God is in order. The Holy Spirit is your teacher. Lk 12.12, Jn 14.26

You need not men to teach you. 1 Jn 2.27, Heb 8.10-11