Great review by Kel_tec. I would like to see more on this shotgun before I put it on my wish list. It looks way cool but I would like to see it in action since they have done a few updates to it.
When it comes to tactical shotguns I believe I would buy a Saiga 12 before a KSG. The main reason is that it can take mags and even a 20 rd drum. The KSG can hold 14 rds but you have to pump it after each shot and when you throw in the price factor the Saiga 12 is more affordable.
@williamjpiano A bumpski on a saiga 12 sounds fun for the range but for home defense? I rather keep my home intact as much as possible. If you can't hit your target within 20 ft with one shot from a 12 gauge then you need a lot more practice.
Very nice review, now you know why I asked you to check it out, I have several Kel-tec's the sub2000, their 223 carbine (B) version and their 223 pistol, would love to have the RFB but it's pricy.
I think this weapon is just straight up silly. It looks like something from a video game or something off the "nerf" line...it's just not very practical. If I was to ever consider a tactical shotgun, I would just get a Saiga. It's much cheaper and blows kel tec's toys away.
Nutnfancy did a run n gun with 1 of the members from kel-tec! besides failure to feed issues everyone including the employee had problems with there new tube selector lever! all in all i think this is a huge waste of time!
@Killahofosho The tube selector with Nutn was not a technical issue it was a training issue... It is still faster to forget about the selector and then switch it over than it is to load seven more shells. Once someone trains with the KSG they would be accustomed to the selector. I think the selector needs to be a bit more accessible though. Having it under and inside the gun is a bit awkward.
scalpers are already out there. Went to a gun show in Albany Oregon today. A dealer had one on sale for $1500. Complete joke. Dealers like that will never get my business.
@deltaleader71 that just what i expected dealers selling them over priced ...just like the ps3 at christmas ..people will be buying these up hording them to sell over priced
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah heard it last year, im sure itll be another 5 years before its actually for sale, give it up already and let some other company put one out there.
Kel tec are total shit, only used by del roy delton on the mean streets on the rob,,....and to kel tec i dont think any police or military unit are going to purchease your novoilty shotgun esp when they just been issued the benelli shotgun m4 the rolls roce of shotguns....end rent
@hardman476 Yes kel tec firearms are hot garbage, we all know that. However, you should attempt to use proper grammar and spelling when you are trying to form an insult against somebody. You just look ridiculous. "Rent", I think you meant "rant". Good attempt though captain stubing.
@thecodemachine interesting question but if it had to replace a shotgun that the united states military uses it wouldnt be the semi auto M1014, it would be the mossberg 590A1. Because the mossberg 590A1 is the only shotgun that is used in all 5 branches of the military, while the M1014 is only used in the marines. The kel tec ksg also wouldnt pass the mill spec 3443G...
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I asked the same guy about the RFB while I was at SHOT. He said they are all 'hand assembled' and KelTec only makes about 60 a month and that they go to distributors, who then fill waiting orders as they see fit...so I will likely never see a new one for sale at that pace.
Oh my god they do really exist,lol. I just wish you wouldve asked about the PMR 30 and the rifle to match it they were supposed to be coming out with. I guess it doesnt maqtter since not even dealers can get any of the products that Keltec introduced LAST year at SHOT 2011 much less this years refined models. They really need to step up their production. I have had KSGs and PMR30s on order for a year now!!! Keep up the good work Des!
Your colleague there (the young lady that you pointed it at), should have kicked you square in the nuts when you pulled the trigger on her repeatedly. THAT would make for some good video. I don't believe for a second that KT fixed the trigger re-set issue, when you are going out of your way to NOT show a re-set situation - looks like sleight of hand to me, but maybe I'm just too cynical.
If it "does have trigger re-set", as you claim, then why don't you DEMONSTRATE that, rather than demonstrating the opposite - all you did was let your finger up quite clearly and deliberately between shots - the OPPOSITE of holding your finger back the whole time, THEN letting up to actually, ya know, SHOW the re-set. Also, why are you pointing it horizontally as you pull the trigger? I don't care what the tight ammo rules are at SHOT - you DONT violate the 4 fundamental rules of gun saftety!
@ frame 1:19 he actually used the words..."Tight Quality Controls"...lol I know he's heard that somewhere....oh yeah....from the customers...lol Kel-Tec has Awesome Customer Service....they are American made!!!.....but their QC and production....well, no further comment is neccesary.
Different manual of arms for over twice the price of a good Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 that are proven firearms and can be found everywhere, no thanks.
I like the refinements they have made in the design of the KSG from last year's SHOT (watched lots of 2011 vids). People have been complaining that "we saw it last year, was supposed to be out last year", etc... I'd much rather Kel-Tec (and other manufactures) put their weapons out on a schedule which allows them to get it RIGHT the first release so they don't have massive recalls or just a product that looks like it was thrown together in a weekend; with horrid features and ergos, etc.
By the time Kel-Tec produces enough of these to address even a third of the demand for them, we'll have moved on to railguns and phasers. They're simply abysmal with regard to their manufacturing pace, as has already been said.
@TJ347 They're a small company, and do the best they can. I'm glad there's a steady demand for their products, and that they sell all they have. I'd prefer them not to become the next MSAR. Though, that company going bankrupt and getting out of the gun making business has made my STG-556 more valuable as of late.
That is so cool...wouldn't be surprised if it shows up as the base for some kinda sci-fi weapon in a movie or on TV. I saw the OD green one that hausofguns reviewed and I want it!!! Just tell me its NY legal...
he said "mass produced" their track record shows them as being incapable of mass producing anything if you want anything by kel tec be prepared to wait months for it or buy it at scalped prices the MSRP for a PMR 30 is less than 400 the only place you can get them is on gunbroker for 600+ they build good stuff just not enough of it
Did you happen to see the RMR at the booth? I saw that one last year on Nutnfancy's review, but I never hear anything about it. I realize that, being a PMR based carbine, that there are probably some delays in development.
@ImNotGoingtobePC Oops, I guess I wasn't clear. I mean if the two that he said he ordered make it to the shop, I'd take one of those, since despite it being at last years show, Oleg Volk getting a bunch of pictures, Nutnfancy running with one, and a number being seen amongst more of the regular people, I've been unable to find one for sale for a reasonable price.
They need to design something for the KSG to let the user know when one tube is almost out or better yet have it automatically switch over to the other tube, as it is now the user has to flip a switch to engage the full tube. I'm not really sold on it just yet and for Kel-tec to say their going to be everywhere in 2012 "OK!" slowest production ever! But its a cool design and idea IMO not worth the 800 MSRP also they need to throw in sights or something.
He didn't demo the trigger reset right. He took his finger off the trigger each time.
For those that don't recall the first model if you held the trigger after shooting, and racking it, then tried to release and pull the trigger it wouldn't work. I'm still pretty sure it's been fixed but $800+ ouch.
msrp in the $800's so in the shops could probably find one in the low 7's or high 6's which is good with me, ill will def be keeping my eye out for this shotty.
I went to highschool with that guy.
AssaultWeaponChannel 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I believe they have about a 2 year back log right now on the KSG.
frankgon4 1 week ago
Awesome
619sandiegoSD 1 week ago
I want one!
RENOGUY777 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Great review by Kel_tec. I would like to see more on this shotgun before I put it on my wish list. It looks way cool but I would like to see it in action since they have done a few updates to it.
xtremearmor 3 weeks ago
I hope you got a chance to check out the RFB while you were at Kel-Tec's booth Destinee. It's pretty rad.
ALPHARIGEL008 4 weeks ago
When it comes to tactical shotguns I believe I would buy a Saiga 12 before a KSG. The main reason is that it can take mags and even a 20 rd drum. The KSG can hold 14 rds but you have to pump it after each shot and when you throw in the price factor the Saiga 12 is more affordable.
Halo2100 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Halo2100 And you can add a bumpski bump stock to a saiga to make it full auto. (added plus for home defense)
williamjpiano 4 weeks ago
@williamjpiano A bumpski on a saiga 12 sounds fun for the range but for home defense? I rather keep my home intact as much as possible. If you can't hit your target within 20 ft with one shot from a 12 gauge then you need a lot more practice.
Halo2100 4 weeks ago
Great review!
weaponseducation 1 month ago
It's a ZOMBIE getter
mrgeorge457d 1 month ago
Drooooool
beaker126 1 month ago
Very nice review, now you know why I asked you to check it out, I have several Kel-tec's the sub2000, their 223 carbine (B) version and their 223 pistol, would love to have the RFB but it's pricy.
bradleytank666 1 month ago
I think this weapon is just straight up silly. It looks like something from a video game or something off the "nerf" line...it's just not very practical. If I was to ever consider a tactical shotgun, I would just get a Saiga. It's much cheaper and blows kel tec's toys away.
NatePlaysMM 1 month ago
Nutnfancy did a run n gun with 1 of the members from kel-tec! besides failure to feed issues everyone including the employee had problems with there new tube selector lever! all in all i think this is a huge waste of time!
Killahofosho 1 month ago
@Killahofosho The tube selector with Nutn was not a technical issue it was a training issue... It is still faster to forget about the selector and then switch it over than it is to load seven more shells. Once someone trains with the KSG they would be accustomed to the selector. I think the selector needs to be a bit more accessible though. Having it under and inside the gun is a bit awkward.
AshogNorth 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I like the KSG, but $880??? Ummm.... NO. Bring it down around $650 and ok.
TitoFTW 1 month ago
scalpers are already out there. Went to a gun show in Albany Oregon today. A dealer had one on sale for $1500. Complete joke. Dealers like that will never get my business.
deltaleader71 1 month ago
@deltaleader71 that just what i expected dealers selling them over priced ...just like the ps3 at christmas ..people will be buying these up hording them to sell over priced
gasdorf 1 month ago
more guns you can't buy boring, get a saiga
belbro62 1 month ago
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah heard it last year, im sure itll be another 5 years before its actually for sale, give it up already and let some other company put one out there.
peptopro17 1 month ago
Kel tec are total shit, only used by del roy delton on the mean streets on the rob,,....and to kel tec i dont think any police or military unit are going to purchease your novoilty shotgun esp when they just been issued the benelli shotgun m4 the rolls roce of shotguns....end rent
hardman476 1 month ago
@hardman476 Yes kel tec firearms are hot garbage, we all know that. However, you should attempt to use proper grammar and spelling when you are trying to form an insult against somebody. You just look ridiculous. "Rent", I think you meant "rant". Good attempt though captain stubing.
siglite220 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
are these actually production workers too? get some people working making all those guns you have on back order
jmoney31705 1 month ago
@thecodemachine interesting question but if it had to replace a shotgun that the united states military uses it wouldnt be the semi auto M1014, it would be the mossberg 590A1. Because the mossberg 590A1 is the only shotgun that is used in all 5 branches of the military, while the M1014 is only used in the marines. The kel tec ksg also wouldnt pass the mill spec 3443G...
makeuplover1935 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
i still wonder if it would burn your face off after a bunch or rounds
GamersBar 1 month ago
Saw it last year at Shot, still waiting for it to retail!
venman2 1 month ago
★★★★★
Now that's tactical.
TheMultiGunMan 1 month ago
I wonder if it has a chance of replacing the M1014?
thecodemachine 1 month ago
I know where to get one and I think I just might. That thing loaded with Hexolit slugs and 000buckshot......Unstoppable firepower.
4girls1bucket 1 month ago
Please tell those guys from Kel-tec to start shipping their stuff to Europe!!!!!!!!!! PLEAZZZZZEEEEEEEEEE
robin6512 1 month ago
@robin6512 does europe even allow cool guns like that?
ironcityblue 1 month ago
@ironcityblue probably not, but i'd love to try it =).
robin6512 1 month ago
Cada vez que te veo te vez mas chulla.... : )
DBLOCK020 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I'll be holding my breath waiting to see one in a gun store!
*drops dead from asphyxiation*
friskyrabbit 1 month ago
I really need one..... Doing a great job at SHOT, keep it up.
flipper47465 1 month ago
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gunitup234 1 month ago
I asked the same guy about the RFB while I was at SHOT. He said they are all 'hand assembled' and KelTec only makes about 60 a month and that they go to distributors, who then fill waiting orders as they see fit...so I will likely never see a new one for sale at that pace.
Hoplophile1 1 month ago
@DrTadHusseinWinslow
midwestgrunt 1 month ago
Oh my god they do really exist,lol. I just wish you wouldve asked about the PMR 30 and the rifle to match it they were supposed to be coming out with. I guess it doesnt maqtter since not even dealers can get any of the products that Keltec introduced LAST year at SHOT 2011 much less this years refined models. They really need to step up their production. I have had KSGs and PMR30s on order for a year now!!! Keep up the good work Des!
Mrprotectionone 1 month ago
$880? I could get 2 HD870's for that.
DanielJosephTV 1 month ago
Your colleague there (the young lady that you pointed it at), should have kicked you square in the nuts when you pulled the trigger on her repeatedly. THAT would make for some good video. I don't believe for a second that KT fixed the trigger re-set issue, when you are going out of your way to NOT show a re-set situation - looks like sleight of hand to me, but maybe I'm just too cynical.
DrTadHusseinWinslow 1 month ago
@DrTadHusseinWinslow Scary!
donnya1000 1 month ago
If it "does have trigger re-set", as you claim, then why don't you DEMONSTRATE that, rather than demonstrating the opposite - all you did was let your finger up quite clearly and deliberately between shots - the OPPOSITE of holding your finger back the whole time, THEN letting up to actually, ya know, SHOW the re-set. Also, why are you pointing it horizontally as you pull the trigger? I don't care what the tight ammo rules are at SHOT - you DONT violate the 4 fundamental rules of gun saftety!
DrTadHusseinWinslow 1 month ago
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DrTadHusseinWinslow 1 month ago
@ frame 1:19 he actually used the words..."Tight Quality Controls"...lol I know he's heard that somewhere....oh yeah....from the customers...lol Kel-Tec has Awesome Customer Service....they are American made!!!.....but their QC and production....well, no further comment is neccesary.
TacticalTominNC 1 month ago
Different manual of arms for over twice the price of a good Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 that are proven firearms and can be found everywhere, no thanks.
Nakanokalronin 1 month ago
Wait he just said were keeping it affordable, so everyone can afford one. Can you afford to just give me one?
alajeff 1 month ago
Awesome! Want 1!! lol
SnakeStrike77 1 month ago
I like the refinements they have made in the design of the KSG from last year's SHOT (watched lots of 2011 vids). People have been complaining that "we saw it last year, was supposed to be out last year", etc... I'd much rather Kel-Tec (and other manufactures) put their weapons out on a schedule which allows them to get it RIGHT the first release so they don't have massive recalls or just a product that looks like it was thrown together in a weekend; with horrid features and ergos, etc.
guns4good 1 month ago 4
I just ordered one all the way up here in the Great White North!
CdnShootingChannel 1 month ago
bla bla bla i seen this last year kel tec and it was supposed to be released by december LAST YEAR!
DigitalUrbanCamo 1 month ago
@DigitalUrbanCamo Yep, been reading about it for it seems like years, at this point I dont think i even want one anymore lol
hm4973 1 month ago
@DigitalUrbanCamo keltec dont wanta expand the production lines ..i expect massive hording when there released with higher price from the dealers
gasdorf 1 month ago
Oooh. Very nice!
TheGunfighter45acp 1 month ago
Great idea
But can they make enough
What ever happened with the PMR-30
satchboogyfan 1 month ago
Great price
wdgoings 1 month ago
that's great
1798373872 1 month ago
By the time Kel-Tec produces enough of these to address even a third of the demand for them, we'll have moved on to railguns and phasers. They're simply abysmal with regard to their manufacturing pace, as has already been said.
TJ347 1 month ago 26
@TJ347 They're a small company, and do the best they can. I'm glad there's a steady demand for their products, and that they sell all they have. I'd prefer them not to become the next MSAR. Though, that company going bankrupt and getting out of the gun making business has made my STG-556 more valuable as of late.
Mistraker 1 month ago
just about everyone i know wants one ...that mite be a problem
gasdorf 1 month ago
Hmmmm... I'm watching this and the US legal Tavor.... Decisions, decisions....
SpencerAK74M 1 month ago
lol look at the woman on the right, her eyes glazed over lol
8TheManWithNoName8 1 month ago
@8TheManWithNoName8 ya she looks beat
gasdorf 1 month ago
That is so cool...wouldn't be surprised if it shows up as the base for some kinda sci-fi weapon in a movie or on TV. I saw the OD green one that hausofguns reviewed and I want it!!! Just tell me its NY legal...
fsfazekas 1 month ago
keltec makes some of the most hideous guns
MeLlamoBradly 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Whoa! $880? I know what shotgun I'm looking forward to this year!
FunVanDriver 1 month ago
Sweet! Thanks FOD!
Birchbarkjohnny 1 month ago
he said "mass produced" their track record shows them as being incapable of mass producing anything if you want anything by kel tec be prepared to wait months for it or buy it at scalped prices the MSRP for a PMR 30 is less than 400 the only place you can get them is on gunbroker for 600+ they build good stuff just not enough of it
455eley 1 month ago
no thanks for your time :)
DrGreenfun 1 month ago
I've been looking at those KSG's. Can't wait till it hits the dealers.
skipwadoo 1 month ago
SWEET!
Downsouth1796 1 month ago
Everyone needs one of those shotguns, sweet!
semiautoriflelover1 1 month ago
And they unveiled this at SHOT 2011.... lol!
CajCoo 1 month ago
The gun is as short as possible for general public.
cultgti 1 month ago
How Much shorter can you make that gun and still be able to use it?
MrDobans13 1 month ago
Shaun there looks a lot like Mike from KickedInTheBalls2000. I saw the preview pane and thought I'd finally figured out where he disappeared to lol.
47MasoN47 1 month ago
any videos on glock stuff?
spetsnaz103 1 month ago
That is very interesting. Thanks.
thomasmino 1 month ago
I think I'll put buckshot in one tube and snacks in the other...always preppin' !
achigurh 1 month ago
Did you happen to see the RMR at the booth? I saw that one last year on Nutnfancy's review, but I never hear anything about it. I realize that, being a PMR based carbine, that there are probably some delays in development.
neanderthor66 1 month ago
love the ksg. can't wait to buy one. thanks for the vid.
dyspare1973 1 month ago
Have 2 enroute next week to our shop :)
kwgunworks 1 month ago
@kwgunworks If they make it, I'll take one!
AreThereNoMoreNames 1 month ago
@AreThereNoMoreNames it was at last years shot show
ImNotGoingtobePC 1 month ago
@ImNotGoingtobePC Oops, I guess I wasn't clear. I mean if the two that he said he ordered make it to the shop, I'd take one of those, since despite it being at last years show, Oleg Volk getting a bunch of pictures, Nutnfancy running with one, and a number being seen amongst more of the regular people, I've been unable to find one for sale for a reasonable price.
AreThereNoMoreNames 1 month ago
Hey can you check out the Sig Sauer Mosquito?
VenusflytrapJer 1 month ago
VEGAS, BABY !
quimbyt 1 month ago
Dont forget to add tax to $880. $900+++
ThePlstix 1 month ago
Priced for everyone to own one........ production where only a few can. Maybe one day I can go to Shot show to see some of Kel-tecs products.
Great job Destinee
TanklessPro 1 month ago
Nice, well looks like I'll be waiting till 2013 now. Thanks for the update that is the newest news I have seen on the KSG this year.
jmce3 1 month ago
Nice tats, gangsta.
Ralastar 1 month ago
880 for a shotgun? .............
primetimebeatz 1 month ago
They need to design something for the KSG to let the user know when one tube is almost out or better yet have it automatically switch over to the other tube, as it is now the user has to flip a switch to engage the full tube. I'm not really sold on it just yet and for Kel-tec to say their going to be everywhere in 2012 "OK!" slowest production ever! But its a cool design and idea IMO not worth the 800 MSRP also they need to throw in sights or something.
Dougedoug14 1 month ago
He didn't demo the trigger reset right. He took his finger off the trigger each time.
For those that don't recall the first model if you held the trigger after shooting, and racking it, then tried to release and pull the trigger it wouldn't work. I'm still pretty sure it's been fixed but $800+ ouch.
midwestiowashooter 1 month ago
It's just so hard to get some of there products,wait, wait, and wait some more.
Glock n Load,
Mike
videosbymike 1 month ago
I just got a little smirkish seeing that shotgun.
ArbyK 1 month ago
you didn't look awkward to me... :) keep it up !
btmatto 1 month ago
Pretty cool, not sure it is for me though.
72cmcinc 1 month ago
MYSTERY SHOTGUN.........
excelerater 1 month ago
msrp in the $800's so in the shops could probably find one in the low 7's or high 6's which is good with me, ill will def be keeping my eye out for this shotty.
TheGunShaman 1 month ago
Man I wish KelTec would put these out already.....
jeremywendelin 1 month ago
@2xEKIA 1 word: gunbroker
irishScott2 1 month ago
THAT is what I am waiting for! As soon as they come out I am there!!
WeaponsOnTheWeb 1 month ago
god damn i want that weapon.
Grunt922 1 month ago
Dunno why but that gun just doesn't sit right with me for some reason. Clever piece of kit, but not a fan of it tbh.
BoydMort 1 month ago
Oh jeez. I was under the impression they started shipping the preorders. I goes i will be waiting for longer then i thought.
URBANAMERICANTAC 1 month ago
@URBANAMERICANTAC Still six months out is what I was hearing at SHOT.
MrDan27611 1 month ago
Kel-Tec is a really consumer friendly company, I respect them, They just have trouble keeping up with demand.
Dtac25 1 month ago
Nice!!!!
knifedudetodd 1 month ago
Coming to a store near you in 2050 LOL
saigaish 1 month ago 5
@saigaish at least it will fit withing that time era as it look so scifi. Probably have hover cars as well.
rswarrior1700 1 month ago
Kel-Tec needs to put an X-rail into this, 26 rounds !
Bulwark1911 1 month ago