Truthers make me laugh. They always point to Physicists, professors and engineers. They never interview the people behind the basis of their theory. Demolition experts! Any demolition expert will tell you that is IMPOSSIBLE to rig any structure for demolition while it is still occupied and without having complete access to the structure and it's surrounding area. IMPOSSIBLE without thousands of witnesses! The trade center would have had to been closed down for months! Truthers are laughable..
Penn + Teller , let's have a little look at those two . They are magicians and as we all know magic is bullshit . They are professional magicians which therefore means they are PROFESSIONAL BULLSHITTERS .
At 2:00 Jodi Dean rightly says that when the 'explanation' you are handed is inadequate a rational person goes on to look for a better explanation that fits the facts.
Penn seems to think we should just accept what we're told, no matter how ridiculous it might be.
First... do you know where the jet fuel thing comes from? Rosy O'Donnel. Let me make this very simple.... You crash a plane into a building, It's going to go down. Here's what happened. The plane knocked out a couple of support struts on the upper floors, causing them to collapse, overloading the struts on the floors below, and causing them to collapse and so on all the way to the bottom. Plus, I don't understand what you're trying to prove in this vid... Y&ou talked more about JFK than 9/11. :/
You remind me of Rosy O'Donnell... Do you even know anything about physics? Back to my main point... Any D student in a physics class could tell you what happens if you knock out support struts in a sky scraper... The thing collapses! How is that so difficult to understand? A damn Jet crashed into a building, the floors above collapsed, overloading the supports of the floor below, and causing that to collapse, and so on and so on. You didn't even show the episode you moron!
Awe .. that's a shame. You were doing so well,but then you couldn't leave it alone & had to add this ridiculous response. Facts are the same at 4 am, as they are any time of day. I was going to go back & confirm what I once read about jets using kerosene fuel, but then I read read this response. So, thanks ....for introducing irrelevance into this. As for jet fuel ... you're a 21 year old sports fan.
You are correct jet fuel(jp8) doesn't burn hot enough, by itself, combine the fuel with massive amounts of friction and heat and an abundant supply of oxygen and the fire triangle is completed. Btw kerosene is not jet fuel. Similar but not the same
The gov't did know about it in advance but it was a very general note didn't say when, didn't say how didn't say when. For all they knew the note was just to cause chaos and panic.
Also if the gov't did stage the events of 9/11 why the hell would they fly a plane at the pentagon and white house? Two major buildings attacked... There was no explosives on the building or the plane that hit it, you don't seem to understand that jet fuel burns very very hot, hot enough to melt steel and combine th
Wow, just where are you getting your information ?
I'll agree that kerosene fuel does burn very hot ... compared to something that's not burning. But, even the much cited Popular Science Magazine's debunking of 9/11 "conspiracy theories " stated jet fuel won't melt steel. So, yeh, I don't understand that .... because. it . is. impossible.
@dahlgutz What makes you think that metal needs to literally melt for a building to collapse? Anyone with even the most basic of engineering knowledge knows that material loses a percentage of it's strength as it heats up, to the point where the load will be more than a structure was built to withstand. Get a clue before you spew. Also this video is mislabeled, there is no mention of facts, just you defending your right to be a conspiracy theorist. So misguided in so many ways.
Because they name themselves "Scholars for Truth," does not mean even 25% of the time that they actually they've actually found any truths in the matter. They spend thousands of dollars to look up bullshit claims that 9/11 was a conspiracy. In all essence, they are the same ass-wipes that claim creationism is a real science because they want to believe it is. Thus, they point toward these albeit interesting stories and say they must be true because their just crazy enough.
Everyone pushing for a real investigation and arguing it being a controlled demolition, has science, facts, documents, names and dates that conflict with the official story. The official story has ONE method of persuasion, REPETITION. "It happened that way because it happened that way and that's what they said so that's what you should believe." e word of the very people who had everything to gain from this happening.
The only conspiracy for 9-11 came from Bin Laden and his group. Bin Laden admitted in planning the attack and seeing that it was carried out. Why would anyone believe that our government did it when you have someone else confess? And no Bin Laden doesn't work for the U.S.
tell me this what was the goal or good achived by killing kennedy that the conspiritors achived nothing it was random there was chaos nothing really changed but who sat behind the presidents desk it makes more sense that it was a random no body who wanted to be important who shot him than a group of conspiraters
2:53 .... so you are trying to tell me that you find it hard to belive that one man could kill another man? it's not hard to kill a man you know. it's as easy as shooting a deer. eaven if you have army training or not. hell.. eaven YOU could kill a man. not saying you should. but just trying to make a point.
So you go after a show that isn't meant to be taken seriously in the first place for lack of scientific evidence and you debunk their claims with no evidence of your own.
S. Jones is not doing science. That is, I am still waiting for his first scientific findings. I know he spreads a lot of bullshit regarding thermite, thermate or nano-thermite (Harrit), and his so called microscopic and gas chromatographic measurments. But all consistently in a non-scientifiic manner, ignoring all evidence that contradicts his pet hypothesis. Penn&Teller talk sense, Jones does not.
Steven Jones is not doing science. That is, I am still waiting for his first scientific findings. I know he spreads a lot of bullshit regarding thermite, thermate or nano-thermite (Harrit), and his so called microscopic and gas chromatographic measurments. But all consistently in a non-scientifiic manner, ignoring all evidence that contradicts his pet hypothesis. Penn&Teller talk sense, Jones does not.
Well if you watched the video you would have heard Penn instructing you to push anyone with the said book, down some stairs.
I generally agree with P&T on most things, such as atheism, but just because they have a good track record does not mean they are immune to scrutiny. Their video was void of any facts, appealed to ignorance/emotion, made several absurd statements and was pure opinion based nonsense.
@dahlgutz thank you for proving that your a moron. see there is this thing, I know it is going to be hard for you, but its called a "JOKE" now its meant to be humorous for people watching and be "Entertaining" Just because you don't get it doesn't mean they are wrong.
@adamresyk2112 I agree. Penn and Teller did nothing but put up the nuttiest guy they could find as the antagonist conspiracy nut and then say actually nothing to quiet any of the concerns people have other than to call them names.
@adamresyk2112 I agree. Penn and Teller did nothing but put up the nuttiest guy they could find as the antagonist conspiracy nut and then say actually nothing to quiet any of the concerns people have other than to call them names.
Look up the video "Conspiracy Fail" by the user Failblog.....a PERFECT example of the intellect of the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, it isn't related to 9-11 but it gives you a great idea of their ilk.
As someone who has lost a loved one on 9/11 i have to tell you how fuckin sick and fuckin tired i am of hearing people like you dahlgutz make fucking jokes about that day, when you think about that event and your first thought is that it's all fuckin made up and the gov planed it all, are you fucking kidding me, the sad part is that no matter what you'll still fucking going to believe all this conspiricy bull shit because you either fucking crazy or fucking stupid
Despite what you may think. & inspite of your rude & vulger remarks, I am working on your behalf. I am sorry for your loss. I nearly lost a friend who worked at the WTC on that day. I was sickened when I
where did you " learn " this piece of infomation exactly, how is your proof any more credible then others.
Also save your pity i don't need it, also how does it give me comfort to know the reason my dad and big brother are dead is because religous radicals were trying to recieve 72 virgins by trying to destroy our way of life how does that help exactly?
@dahlgutz No one's ignoring the research of Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Griffiths, Hoffman, Avery, et al. In fact, a lot of attention has been given to them by intelligent, scientifically-minded people, and these people have rejected their research as pseudoscience. People who have rejected the 9/11 conspiracy theories include ballistics experts, structural engineers, physicists, communications experts, and demolitions experts. Many links to debunkings are readily available online.
@dahlgutz and again you are showing your total lack there of intelligence. Your working on his behalf yeah ok, so Your going to some how reverse time and make it all go away for the thousands affected right? You CAN'T prove anything because its WASN'T A CONSPIRACY! you and Every other conspiracy theorist think your looking for facts but your only looking to just try and start something. Your no better than the trolls on YouTube. STOP BEING AN IDIOT. But that will never happen.
@Syn427 Here's a big problem - people have been trained to react to conspiracy as if it means crazy.
Now when you say " WASN'T A CONSPIRACY" & you are talking about 9/11, you are just plain wrong. There are a lot of opinions on details, but 9/11 WAS a conspiracy. There is no way it couldn't be. Understand the basics, or say nothing.
Sir, I'm sorry for your loss. But the fact that you're sick and tired of people who believe that 911 was an inside job doesn't make it an impossibility. Thats like you telling me that the gov. didn't enforce Jim Crow laws until the 1960's because you don't like the idea that they could do that. Have you heard of slavery? The extermination of the Native Americans? Internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII? Hiroshima? Nagasaki? The U.S. has done some terrible things. Today is no different
@mmafighter7991 If a single individual murders your loved ones and is sent to prison for life, then a few years later you find out that the man sent to prison was innocent and the real killer is on the loose, would you you be upset with the detectives searching for the real killer.
A hoax is a deliberate attempt to deceive or trick an audience into believing, or accepting, that something is real, when the hoaxster knows it is not; or that something is true, when it is false. In an instance of a hoax, an object, or event, is not what it appears to be, or what it is claimed to be.
penn and teller could have found better people to debate this but i think it's up to us to realize that penn and teller's show is NOT news. its comedy entertainment.
rotflmfao! they make a joke about the skipper and you go on and on about it using that as a means to discredit them? John Stewart makes jokes do you use that to discredit him? You have no counter proof against Penn n Teller you merely insult and go on. plus wow you go on more about jfk then 911! Did you forget what video this was? ADHD is a bitch huh?
Ha ha, you clearly have nothing better to do with your life. How can you really believe all these conspiracy things. I gripe about the gov as much as anyone but they are trying to do the best for the country. The idea of the gov being behind these things is absurd. Get real
I'll give dahlgutz an a for effort-and he's obviously a smart fellow, but don't use his video as your excuse that you "looked at the other side of the argument." Because as some other folks pointed out earlier on in this thread, he didn't go really in depth. As the title implies, this video is a response to Penn & Teller's rather vitriolic and poo flinging video attacking the 9/11 truth community.
If you want nuts and bolts of the issue, than watch 9/11: Blueprint for Truth
can you beilive this guy? Are you for real? you really think that someone thinks the skipper did it, its is obvisouly just a fucking joke your complete retard,a hahahahahaha thats fucking comedy
Rational research? The conspiracy theorists that believe that the government was involved in something this huge and devastating are kooks. Unmanned drones, thermite, explosives, these are the stupidest ideas that someone can come up with. People like you should go find something better to do.
Oh and I like how you didn't show the people who believe in these theories about the government. You should have than you might get people to believe in this crap. Those guys were definitely on the level.
No wonder this video has such a low rating! You don't even show the whole Penn and Teller video. The 9/11 truth movement has debunked because it has no fact. Also, the truth movement is pointless because they want the government to re-examine the 9/11 attacks. Honestly, how fucking retarded can you be? You want the same government that supposedly killed all of it's people to do the exact same report twice. All of the Scholars of Truth really say is just bullshit to get people to hate Bush.
Penn and Teller have completely sold out.....nimrods with big mouths, who want you to stop thinking...now that is something to be proud off....they belong in the Spanish Inquisition.
What the hell are you talking about? No, seriously, what? How have they sold out? If you watch some of their shows, they reveal the bullshit of their own magic act. They're kind of doing the same thing in the show. And how are they trying to get you to stop thinking? They're trying to get "nimrods" (using your word) to think more, instead of general acceptance of crap that happens ALL THE TIME!
You were talking about hiding in the darkness and coming into the light! Either you're a religious nut or a conspriacy theory nut, either way, you're incorrect.
"Suck on Jesus's wang", holy shit you're nothing but an asshole!
Again, ASSHOLE. You're calling me an evil doer, and then you attack me, multiple times, when i've done nothing to you. You've said nothing of merit to me, so, maybe you should just be quiet, you would do the world some good.
It includes the nutcase founders James H. Fetzer ( a Philosopher NOT a scientist) and Stephen( thermite) Jones they have a large number of members who are scholars in fields such as
English Literature
Associate Professor of Marketing
Professor of Philosophy
Comparative Literature
French language and culture
Why would such scholars be respected for their views on the Science of 9/11?
Hey NWOGroupie, Penn/Teller broke up. Can you be "Peon & Teller", they need a good actor, you play the asshole role very well. You (naught) Z's, soon all the BS you spewed flows back down your throats. You can't see & forever yell lies. You abet what tests, you failed, bah-bye! adios amoeba. That which owns you loathes you, watch, you'll see, $ no more to go to peons, AI (ART/ignorance) one-time fee, no need peons anymore, ask Rav, Jigs UP, or down.. Zion back/word = NoiZ/noise.or NO IZ/eyes
Kid/pretender wax apple vendor, his ass is gonna burn, A/I code can't read #'s mixed w/letters. A'holes complain like bots as well, U spelling-B cop? shows corps(e) peon mind. Ill give you some ill-UM'ing advice, Jigs u 4 A's thru (not) Z's (yes it was). Hide, better be scared as IT ain't Hollywood reel, its THE real deal, you sold life inside, wrong team. Show fangs at me you'll fill a well. Kiss Ravs puny-head bahbuy cause peon checks never cum again, get what you can while its hot. fool.
Hey OWNisBS U R death on no legs (snake), UR hate slithering/hissing, bad karma 2U fiat kid. Go play w/Rav & other snakes, UR a mere illusion to go underground soom, abet lies, hurt? WE know who UR. ALL see U 4 what u R, useless pimple on the ass of life, I poked U, the pimple so you spew puss. Keep spewing Irving, gifts coming 2U real not fiat/reel soon. l U actually control this channel 4 baitingl, make strie, snakes mine hate feeds flies/rats/owls. Put wax apple away kid no soup 4 fiat jew.
Well who blocks me? Like I say, show how real UR pimple, its simple. I fix pimples. Then puss spews rhetoric. What cred do U got? U stream vids, NO, you fish!, faceless baiter. Nil u say is truth, C, U invest time, NO, UR paid! U R a online poker, pitchfork in type. I poke snakes like U, always same.Attack good people/truth, no vids, claim 2b friend when UR fiend. Looks like a duck? it's a duck, duck Z. Software shows what u hide. Just show your face short vid, u claim 2b of truth but hide?
Where did you get the idea that a person needs to have a video to be able to make valid comments?
Why should I show my face? What does my face have to do veracity? You keep claiming I lie and attack people yet you can't point out a single lie or attack.
I propose you show evidence of my lies or attacks or man-up and admit YOU are wrong.
My posting was blocked, friend sent to u, asked them to post sent it to u Z boy., sorry, you hide so much bit this you want public U cant show your face but u want people to respect a biased view that Peon/Teller have superior investigative skills then engineers & the scientific community? No wonder u can;t show a face. U see, most like u identical, same. Bots can;t read #'s w/letters combined, sound-out word, they don't throw poop like u, lil peons play w/poop, poke/rhetoric/lies. G/l Irving.
eye8one2, you seem to have a hard time understanding I haven't blocked you from any video beccause I DO NOT HAVE ANY VIDEOS!
Do you even understand how YouTube works?
If you think Penn & Peller are claiming to have investigated 9/11 then you are truly dense.
Scientist and Engineers have done investigations of the events of 9/11 and you can read those reults in the FEMA and NIST reports but, I suspect they are way beyond your reading comprehension level.
Insanity? You're sane? an ego worshiper? KID, you're mashugga.. You shill /work of Peon/Teller over k's of over qualified non-Zionist engineers/scientists all experts. You're life is work on YT poke people for fiat $, especially those w/truth. Search your username it shows all your insulting posts/pokes. Your style matches additional avatars as well, you defend your idiocy lots with other accounts.. Like I said hook nose, keep poking me, I POKE BACK harder. Call Rabbit Rav, ask for a raise..
kid, u lie, GE's friend, I was blocked couldn't post, had to poke u more, figured u blocked me, snakes dont like 2b poked, AI goes away. But u, u touched a nerve in me, u remind me of an asshole that hurt friends w/lies. For that you'll feel serious pain, u just wont shut up nor stop lying. Hot cubicle ur in? U work at this, I give freely to rid net of disease, you're nil but a peon, I shit bigger things then u. I see u smirking, like pretend jews do. U need a nose job asswipe, fuck ur ugly Z.
Your action/intent condemns u as a peon. U create strife, operate pretend accounts, contracted by ,Rav,. U lie constant, rely on childish insults as wit, you;ve w/o creativity, an ape. You spew rhetoric, keep hate alive, earn from stats?. U have tricksters as peers, one don't even speak. U lie about validity of experts who are wiser the peon/teller, U abet perpetrators just.how Cspan Jkie started, same MO/bait for $'s, Show your friends list since you dont have a face? Shows URA liar, No IZS!
Creeps like you are why I don't show my friends list. I've had dealings with lunitics like you in the past who go to my friends channels and start leaving demented rantings.
lol, you are a liar, you got no friends, only accomplishes. Also, by search, your not on anyoe list, liar. Want more? You merely poke people on line Irving, cross dresser as well, is that how they got you? lol more to come
The chords are not the same and the progression is not even close.
The BNL song is not about wasting money it was written from the viewpoint of a kid. Even you should have been able to figure that out from the subtle clues such as "I'd build a treefort in our yard " or "I'd buy you a monkey".
Maybe you're having trouble understanding the song because they're singing in Canadian? LOL
Good bye to you and your cross dressing fantasies. loser
You like all the other theiorists are a complete descrase to this nation and an insult to the families of those who died on september 11th. Your attempts at undermining the government with your fucked up fairy tales about this "conspiracy" are doomed to FAILURE! I took that comment about "Perl Harbor was allowed to happen" as an insult because My Grandfather served in the resulting war. You really hate this nation so much? Join al quieda, you will be shot dead by an american soldier.
So what about the reightstag fire was that an accident along with the Uss Liberty and mossadeg and Iraq ( no weapons of mass dest..)
If someone does not believe something how is that an insult???? you must be watching fox news too much go out and get some fresh air then take a class in physics 101 then time the collapse of building 7 and the towers and when you have done this correctly and still hold your opinion I will still discuss it with you, besides what have you got to loose ??
No im not going to one of your websights to look up "credible and factual physics based evidence as to why this was a conspiracy" Not one of those sights has any factual info. because they are all published by fucking collage dropouts looking for attention. This is most likely where you got your information. You havn't lifted a finger to do any real research, nither have your peirs. I suggest you and you little friends go back to collage for a few more years.
Re-read my comment I said go to a website YOU trust.
Oh and BTW the word is Peers.
Piers are what support walls... just so you know.
Oh! one other thing you are obviously a little light on intelligence so I wont say anything you can't understand, but suffice as to say I don't live in your Country in fact I live half way round the world from you.
Oh! and please if you are going to comment in English at least have the good taste to learn how to speak it first.
if you are going to correct someone on the meaning of a word you should at least make sure you give the CORRECT definition.
pier noun :
1 a structure leading out to sea and used as a landing stage for boats or as a place of entertainment. 2 Brit. a long narrow structure projecting from an airport terminal and giving access to an aircraft. 3 the pillar of an arch or supporting a bridge. 4 a wall between windows or other adjacent openings.
Way to go you ! ignore the whole meaning and content of my comment and instead focus on an insignificant detail in a silly attempt to convince yourself you have somehow won an argument .
Pier is a support structure in walls it's called a pier as opposed to Pillar due to its lesser purpose in support of the structure. and BTW I have built many over the years.
stop tyring to use Fox news style physco crap you don't have the sufficient capabillities...
LOL, You (not) Z's, world knows you're liability not asset to your owners now, why aren't you hiding like most? Checks are stopped, no pay for peonismists, Bot-Code pokes for free. Could be its your fetish, invest time poking people online? Unless you're just an idiot but likely you're AI (artificial Ignorance) No face/vid nor friends, attack people, show pro-corps(e) bias, MO is clear. No civility & complain about spelling. What are you 7 or a word cop? If you aren' t bot, owned by dis-Z's.
I haven't "attacked" anyone, merely pointed out facts. YOU however have decided to 'attack" me. At least I think you're attacking me, your comment is so incoherent I'm not sure what the hell you're trying to say!
Re Spelling
spoonogsback played the spelling & ntelligence card on gd44 first. I simply pointed out that spoonogsback was WRONG.
Re Friends
I have a LOT more than you, I just turned off the list display.
The fact that the kids who made "Loose Change" are still alive is proof enough that the conspiracy theories are bullshit. The fact that the video even stayed on the internet long enough to get popular is even more proof. If the government would commit the largest known terrorist attack in history with military precision, would they let some pecker-neck with a Mac ruin it? No, they would kill them and/or remove the video.
Again, if the government could do something like 9-11 with such precision to fool an entire nation, do you think they couldn't make the kid's death look like either a random occurrence or accidental coincidence? It seems that the win shifts back to me.
911 was far from precise, it was a complete f-up and they know it . Thats why they just keep ignoring it. Besides they don't really give a shit if you know I think now they want you to know.
besides what proof does anyone have that there were saudis on the planes??
Nothing makes a conspiracy theorist appear more insane than when he/she attempts to explain themselves and or discredit their critics. Also, you sound drunk or on a hearty dose of painkillers. Lots of slurring and a disjointed stream of thoughts.
Being that "conspiracy theorist" was the noun referent, and I am not a conspiracy theorist, I was not calling myself insane by any means. Perhaps a refresher course in grammar would be useful to you.
I'll try this one more time. THE SECOND SENTENCE COMES AFTER THE FIRST. It is there where you attempted to discredit me with the words "drunk, or on a hearty dose of painkillers. Also, "disjointed stream of thoughts." Am I to understand that because you are not a conspiracy theorist, the same rules don't apply to you ? So, you are free to try to discredit those who disagree with you ?
Fine then, comment all you want, safe in the knowledge that you are always right, & facts will never sway you. Just like Bush you can live in your own reality unchallenged. I am interested in an intelligient exchange of ideas. May you find happiness in your reality.
You know, if you find that your conspiracy theories are threatened by 30 minutes of comedic rhetoric by aging magicians, perhaps your ideas aren't even worthy of any intelligent exchange.
Now hold on there buddy. Two experts at making you think what you see and hear is bullshit make their living by tricking you ????? and you believe them !!!!!
dude that's sad.. do your own research physics 101 should help...
Let me guess... "research... physics 101" means go to conspiracy websites with extremely bad and laughably incorrect interpretations of the laws of thermodynamics. No thank you.
No my friend. I suggest you go to the finest Physics web site that you trust and find out althought you seem to have your mind made up.
Look to be honest if I thought someone could disprove the whole inside job thing in any way i'd be all over it and I would be shoving it down as many throats as I could, But!!!!!!
You recommend I research physics at a web site? That explains everything. You are a first class buffoon. I have 20 years experience working in science. Most likely you make french fries. No thank you, I do not want to supersize my order but thanks.
What do lying Z's do for $? They attack good but throw parades for puppets. Foolish Z's actually give simple idiots a bad name. You're fiat/actors w/no cred who claim 2B scientists or other roles in a play, Hollywood's your brain kid,. Sci-Fi TV you may know a lil. You applaud Penn/Teller? Was it the guy who don't talk who impressed you most? Residual 4 idiots poking online stops, ask your leash/lease owner/Rav or Susan! peons/Z's lie-abilities not asset, software need no $, bah-bye Z-loser..
wow I went to gd44 channel, look for wisdom but his stream of truth seems/seams to be for amusement & entertainment not physics. If gd44 had absolute truth w/i, would that not be enough? The why it isn't regards his investment of time to poke shows impoliteness, beings generally are polite, those w/spirit, true life, more then ego. But AI (Artificial Ignorance) or Bots, have no vids or face, like bought/paid 4 shills, both insult while worshiping opinions of celebrity fools. U bot or bought?
The classic 'you are a paid shill' retort is not only great for a chuckle but a definitive statement of your brainwasherationism. Have fun chasing your tail over 911 and remaining intimidated by the opinions of aging magicians.
fangs down kid, you got no face or vid -= no credibility, you're an ill-usion. Keep poking us, its how your kind live. When one of you idiots does a vid, I may give you lil thought, until then, you & those who pretend 2b ignorant, trying to keep others that way as well, dig your own graves. Play safe, keep fangs to yourself. Penn/Teller are your peers/idols, Holly would not lie, would she? Fiat peons for fiat$, way to go gomer Where there's smoke is where the shot originated, LHO? No JOK, YES!
Penn and Teller suck... 911 was an inside job. The facts are out there. Most people are to lazy or are in denial to do the research. Most people just say, well if NIST says so... OK.... lets watch football, drink a beer,, wave the American flag, and go back to sleep.
There is no "research" for your claims, they're all horribly though out ideas with barely any fact backing them, if any at all.
Usually only Americans are crazy enough to make that statement.
The funniest "facts" are the ones saying bombs were used. Anyone with a basic understanding knows that heated steel under that much stress will crumble.
The buildings were built to fall as they did so if they ever did, it wouldn't harm other places, again, common sense in building codes.
There is indeed much research, as referenced by citing Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, & many others can be found easily by those not afraid of facts. Since I am not, & am open to learning please let me know of your refernces that tell you that heated steel will crumble.
Also, which architect says the buildings were built to fall as they did. I tend to believe
buildings are built NOT to fall. This is why you need a team of skilled experts to bring one down.
it is kind of crazy to jump to radical conclusions with no real evidence. to be fair the official story reeks of bullshit.
Berzerkerevl 6 months ago
Truthers make me laugh. They always point to Physicists, professors and engineers. They never interview the people behind the basis of their theory. Demolition experts! Any demolition expert will tell you that is IMPOSSIBLE to rig any structure for demolition while it is still occupied and without having complete access to the structure and it's surrounding area. IMPOSSIBLE without thousands of witnesses! The trade center would have had to been closed down for months! Truthers are laughable..
imax1971 6 months ago
So sad, way to lose a fairly hefty chunk of your audience guys...
Keir36 6 months ago
Penn + Teller , let's have a little look at those two . They are magicians and as we all know magic is bullshit . They are professional magicians which therefore means they are PROFESSIONAL BULLSHITTERS .
stevengreen775 7 months ago
At 2:00 Jodi Dean rightly says that when the 'explanation' you are handed is inadequate a rational person goes on to look for a better explanation that fits the facts.
Penn seems to think we should just accept what we're told, no matter how ridiculous it might be.
proudfootz 1 year ago
First... do you know where the jet fuel thing comes from? Rosy O'Donnel. Let me make this very simple.... You crash a plane into a building, It's going to go down. Here's what happened. The plane knocked out a couple of support struts on the upper floors, causing them to collapse, overloading the struts on the floors below, and causing them to collapse and so on all the way to the bottom. Plus, I don't understand what you're trying to prove in this vid... Y&ou talked more about JFK than 9/11. :/
JmAnYoShI 1 year ago
You remind me of Rosy O'Donnell... Do you even know anything about physics? Back to my main point... Any D student in a physics class could tell you what happens if you knock out support struts in a sky scraper... The thing collapses! How is that so difficult to understand? A damn Jet crashed into a building, the floors above collapsed, overloading the supports of the floor below, and causing that to collapse, and so on and so on. You didn't even show the episode you moron!
JmAnYoShI 1 year ago
And you responding at like 4/5am EST proves that you have no life at all because look at what time you were up browsing the web...
HPSsudents 1 year ago
@HPSsudents
Awe .. that's a shame. You were doing so well,but then you couldn't leave it alone & had to add this ridiculous response. Facts are the same at 4 am, as they are any time of day. I was going to go back & confirm what I once read about jets using kerosene fuel, but then I read read this response. So, thanks ....for introducing irrelevance into this. As for jet fuel ... you're a 21 year old sports fan.
done, & done. It's bean a real slice.
dahlgutz 1 year ago
You are correct jet fuel(jp8) doesn't burn hot enough, by itself, combine the fuel with massive amounts of friction and heat and an abundant supply of oxygen and the fire triangle is completed. Btw kerosene is not jet fuel. Similar but not the same
HPSsudents 1 year ago
The gov't did know about it in advance but it was a very general note didn't say when, didn't say how didn't say when. For all they knew the note was just to cause chaos and panic.
Also if the gov't did stage the events of 9/11 why the hell would they fly a plane at the pentagon and white house? Two major buildings attacked... There was no explosives on the building or the plane that hit it, you don't seem to understand that jet fuel burns very very hot, hot enough to melt steel and combine th
HPSsudents 1 year ago
@HPSsudents
Wow, just where are you getting your information ?
I'll agree that kerosene fuel does burn very hot ... compared to something that's not burning. But, even the much cited Popular Science Magazine's debunking of 9/11 "conspiracy theories " stated jet fuel won't melt steel. So, yeh, I don't understand that .... because. it . is. impossible.
dahlgutz 1 year ago
@dahlgutz What makes you think that metal needs to literally melt for a building to collapse? Anyone with even the most basic of engineering knowledge knows that material loses a percentage of it's strength as it heats up, to the point where the load will be more than a structure was built to withstand. Get a clue before you spew. Also this video is mislabeled, there is no mention of facts, just you defending your right to be a conspiracy theorist. So misguided in so many ways.
maccorf 10 months ago
Because they name themselves "Scholars for Truth," does not mean even 25% of the time that they actually they've actually found any truths in the matter. They spend thousands of dollars to look up bullshit claims that 9/11 was a conspiracy. In all essence, they are the same ass-wipes that claim creationism is a real science because they want to believe it is. Thus, they point toward these albeit interesting stories and say they must be true because their just crazy enough.
LionHeartIs17 1 year ago
Everyone pushing for a real investigation and arguing it being a controlled demolition, has science, facts, documents, names and dates that conflict with the official story. The official story has ONE method of persuasion, REPETITION. "It happened that way because it happened that way and that's what they said so that's what you should believe." e word of the very people who had everything to gain from this happening.
GentlemanTortoise 1 year ago
The only conspiracy for 9-11 came from Bin Laden and his group. Bin Laden admitted in planning the attack and seeing that it was carried out. Why would anyone believe that our government did it when you have someone else confess? And no Bin Laden doesn't work for the U.S.
z2153 1 year ago
@z2153 Tim Osman. Google search that.
nykytne13 1 year ago
okay you conspiracy nut
awalczak08 1 year ago
tell me this what was the goal or good achived by killing kennedy that the conspiritors achived nothing it was random there was chaos nothing really changed but who sat behind the presidents desk it makes more sense that it was a random no body who wanted to be important who shot him than a group of conspiraters
TaylorOnTheMic 1 year ago
2:53 .... so you are trying to tell me that you find it hard to belive that one man could kill another man? it's not hard to kill a man you know. it's as easy as shooting a deer. eaven if you have army training or not. hell.. eaven YOU could kill a man. not saying you should. but just trying to make a point.
zjork 1 year ago
So you go after a show that isn't meant to be taken seriously in the first place for lack of scientific evidence and you debunk their claims with no evidence of your own.
Well done.
lunarf 2 years ago
S. Jones is not doing science. That is, I am still waiting for his first scientific findings. I know he spreads a lot of bullshit regarding thermite, thermate or nano-thermite (Harrit), and his so called microscopic and gas chromatographic measurments. But all consistently in a non-scientifiic manner, ignoring all evidence that contradicts his pet hypothesis. Penn&Teller talk sense, Jones does not.
Talking about answers, answer the following:
Please explain the damage of WTC building 5.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Steven Jones is not doing science. That is, I am still waiting for his first scientific findings. I know he spreads a lot of bullshit regarding thermite, thermate or nano-thermite (Harrit), and his so called microscopic and gas chromatographic measurments. But all consistently in a non-scientifiic manner, ignoring all evidence that contradicts his pet hypothesis. Penn&Teller talk sense, Jones does not.
Talking about answers, answer the following:
Please explain the damage of WTC building 5.
wimahlers 2 years ago
This is a crock of shit. Penn & Teller are rational and entertaining. The perfect mix.
adamresyk2112 2 years ago 3
Yes, because rational people will suggest
pushing people down a flight of stairs just
because they carry a book they don't like.
dahlgutz 2 years ago
What?? Clearly words of an irrational mind.
adamresyk2112 2 years ago
My point exactly. For Penn to suggest
that violent act is neither rational, nor
entertaining. I find it very revealing of
his intolerance of open truthful debate.
dahlgutz 2 years ago 2
dude.. listen to nameless212 he knows what he's talking about xD
zjork 1 year ago
Well if you watched the video you would have heard Penn instructing you to push anyone with the said book, down some stairs.
I generally agree with P&T on most things, such as atheism, but just because they have a good track record does not mean they are immune to scrutiny. Their video was void of any facts, appealed to ignorance/emotion, made several absurd statements and was pure opinion based nonsense.
Laurence000001 2 years ago 2
@dahlgutz thank you for proving that your a moron. see there is this thing, I know it is going to be hard for you, but its called a "JOKE" now its meant to be humorous for people watching and be "Entertaining" Just because you don't get it doesn't mean they are wrong.
Syn427 1 year ago
@dahlgutz
Not getting the delicious irony, aren't we?
Meowcow42 1 year ago
if your seeking only entertainment then youll belive anything asshole
bawllastyles 2 years ago
@adamresyk2112 I agree. Penn and Teller did nothing but put up the nuttiest guy they could find as the antagonist conspiracy nut and then say actually nothing to quiet any of the concerns people have other than to call them names.
Their presentation is really weaksauce. really.
A31Chris 1 year ago
@adamresyk2112 I agree. Penn and Teller did nothing but put up the nuttiest guy they could find as the antagonist conspiracy nut and then say actually nothing to quiet any of the concerns people have other than to call them names.
Their presentation is really weaksauce. really.
A31Chris 1 year ago
Look up the video "Conspiracy Fail" by the user Failblog.....a PERFECT example of the intellect of the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, it isn't related to 9-11 but it gives you a great idea of their ilk.
minnsyz 2 years ago
As someone who has lost a loved one on 9/11 i have to tell you how fuckin sick and fuckin tired i am of hearing people like you dahlgutz make fucking jokes about that day, when you think about that event and your first thought is that it's all fuckin made up and the gov planed it all, are you fucking kidding me, the sad part is that no matter what you'll still fucking going to believe all this conspiricy bull shit because you either fucking crazy or fucking stupid
mmafighter7991 2 years ago 3
Despite what you may think. & inspite of your rude & vulger remarks, I am working on your behalf. I am sorry for your loss. I nearly lost a friend who worked at the WTC on that day. I was sickened when I
learned our goverment was lying about
9/11, but I feel it's better to know the truth
than to find comfort in a lie.
dahlgutz 2 years ago
where did you " learn " this piece of infomation exactly, how is your proof any more credible then others.
Also save your pity i don't need it, also how does it give me comfort to know the reason my dad and big brother are dead is because religous radicals were trying to recieve 72 virgins by trying to destroy our way of life how does that help exactly?
mmafighter7991 2 years ago
why would the government destroy 2 of its own buildings
SquirlNutssss 2 years ago
@dahlgutz you should know about finding comfort in a lie I guess
KingKehra 1 year ago
@dahlgutz No one's ignoring the research of Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Griffiths, Hoffman, Avery, et al. In fact, a lot of attention has been given to them by intelligent, scientifically-minded people, and these people have rejected their research as pseudoscience. People who have rejected the 9/11 conspiracy theories include ballistics experts, structural engineers, physicists, communications experts, and demolitions experts. Many links to debunkings are readily available online.
911twoof 1 year ago
@dahlgutz and again you are showing your total lack there of intelligence. Your working on his behalf yeah ok, so Your going to some how reverse time and make it all go away for the thousands affected right? You CAN'T prove anything because its WASN'T A CONSPIRACY! you and Every other conspiracy theorist think your looking for facts but your only looking to just try and start something. Your no better than the trolls on YouTube. STOP BEING AN IDIOT. But that will never happen.
Syn427 1 year ago
@Syn427 Here's a big problem - people have been trained to react to conspiracy as if it means crazy.
Now when you say " WASN'T A CONSPIRACY" & you are talking about 9/11, you are just plain wrong. There are a lot of opinions on details, but 9/11 WAS a conspiracy. There is no way it couldn't be. Understand the basics, or say nothing.
dahlgutz 9 months ago
@dahlgutz Soooo what are you going to do with that 'TRUTH' now that you know it ?
notoriousmichal 1 year ago
Sir, I'm sorry for your loss. But the fact that you're sick and tired of people who believe that 911 was an inside job doesn't make it an impossibility. Thats like you telling me that the gov. didn't enforce Jim Crow laws until the 1960's because you don't like the idea that they could do that. Have you heard of slavery? The extermination of the Native Americans? Internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII? Hiroshima? Nagasaki? The U.S. has done some terrible things. Today is no different
onejace 2 years ago 2
@mmafighter7991 If a single individual murders your loved ones and is sent to prison for life, then a few years later you find out that the man sent to prison was innocent and the real killer is on the loose, would you you be upset with the detectives searching for the real killer.
GentlemanTortoise 1 year ago
A hoax is a deliberate attempt to deceive or trick an audience into believing, or accepting, that something is real, when the hoaxster knows it is not; or that something is true, when it is false. In an instance of a hoax, an object, or event, is not what it appears to be, or what it is claimed to be.
stbays 2 years ago
nice video man
veryoldguy2 2 years ago
penn and teller could have found better people to debate this but i think it's up to us to realize that penn and teller's show is NOT news. its comedy entertainment.
TheeEliPorter 2 years ago 2
I wish they could've gotten Alex Jones and Dylan Avery on their show. That would've put a huge dent in the conspiracy theorist ideas.
stbays 2 years ago
you give conspiracy nuts a bad name!
arcticwookie 2 years ago
rotflmfao! they make a joke about the skipper and you go on and on about it using that as a means to discredit them? John Stewart makes jokes do you use that to discredit him? You have no counter proof against Penn n Teller you merely insult and go on. plus wow you go on more about jfk then 911! Did you forget what video this was? ADHD is a bitch huh?
Bigdaddysquish 2 years ago 26
Ha ha, you clearly have nothing better to do with your life. How can you really believe all these conspiracy things. I gripe about the gov as much as anyone but they are trying to do the best for the country. The idea of the gov being behind these things is absurd. Get real
shananagans5 2 years ago
get your swine flu shot sheep and go away
omgudontknow 2 years ago
berry jennings heard bombs going off when was in the tower told the new people then was killed ----research that
rg3855 2 years ago
I'll give dahlgutz an a for effort-and he's obviously a smart fellow, but don't use his video as your excuse that you "looked at the other side of the argument." Because as some other folks pointed out earlier on in this thread, he didn't go really in depth. As the title implies, this video is a response to Penn & Teller's rather vitriolic and poo flinging video attacking the 9/11 truth community.
If you want nuts and bolts of the issue, than watch 9/11: Blueprint for Truth
confoundtheidols 2 years ago
members of secRATS SERVICE KNEW AND MOVED OUT WAY OF SHOTS watch the kennedy movie
rg3855 2 years ago
lol, "post as satire" for the skipper, who didn't get it besides dahlgutz?
grayandgray 2 years ago 2
can you beilive this guy? Are you for real? you really think that someone thinks the skipper did it, its is obvisouly just a fucking joke your complete retard,a hahahahahaha thats fucking comedy
JusBlazeDR 2 years ago
It wasn't the Skipper?! WTF!?!?
nalo503 2 years ago
Rational research? The conspiracy theorists that believe that the government was involved in something this huge and devastating are kooks. Unmanned drones, thermite, explosives, these are the stupidest ideas that someone can come up with. People like you should go find something better to do.
Oh and I like how you didn't show the people who believe in these theories about the government. You should have than you might get people to believe in this crap. Those guys were definitely on the level.
heartbreakridge 3 years ago
No wonder this video has such a low rating! You don't even show the whole Penn and Teller video. The 9/11 truth movement has debunked because it has no fact. Also, the truth movement is pointless because they want the government to re-examine the 9/11 attacks. Honestly, how fucking retarded can you be? You want the same government that supposedly killed all of it's people to do the exact same report twice. All of the Scholars of Truth really say is just bullshit to get people to hate Bush.
Darkit2099 3 years ago 18
Penn and Teller have completely sold out.....nimrods with big mouths, who want you to stop thinking...now that is something to be proud off....they belong in the Spanish Inquisition.
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? No, seriously, what? How have they sold out? If you watch some of their shows, they reveal the bullshit of their own magic act. They're kind of doing the same thing in the show. And how are they trying to get you to stop thinking? They're trying to get "nimrods" (using your word) to think more, instead of general acceptance of crap that happens ALL THE TIME!
Thanks for playing.
TitanTron6 3 years ago 3
u sound like someone who would be so terrirfied during the spanish inquisition, that you would sell out your own mom, out of fear.....
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Again, what the hell are you talking about? If knowing the truth is your definition of fear, then you need to go back to school, badly.
TitanTron6 3 years ago 2
i see you cant accept the truth, come into the light, do not hide in the darkness anymore....
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Oh, your one of those people. No wonder i can't talk to you.
TitanTron6 3 years ago
u are lost in an ocean of lies and distortion....penn and tellar is just a puddle in that ocean.
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Oceans don't have puddles. If your only evidence to anything is a Bible or the Qu'ran, your lost in the realm of make believe and lets pretend.
TitanTron6 3 years ago
oh how trite..... bringing religion into a reality fight......maybe you should go home and suck on jesus's wang...
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
You were talking about hiding in the darkness and coming into the light! Either you're a religious nut or a conspriacy theory nut, either way, you're incorrect.
"Suck on Jesus's wang", holy shit you're nothing but an asshole!
TitanTron6 3 years ago
Don't try to typecast me, only evil doers do that....are you an evil doer, lick satan's nutsack.
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Again, ASSHOLE. You're calling me an evil doer, and then you attack me, multiple times, when i've done nothing to you. You've said nothing of merit to me, so, maybe you should just be quiet, you would do the world some good.
TitanTron6 3 years ago 2
Sorry I was away all evening. Now then,, you sir are a buttmunch who does not believe in jebus....
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Again, nothing of merit, nothing but a series of low-grade insults. I'm done with you.
TitanTron6 3 years ago 2
no, I am done with you sir....good day to you and your evil ways...
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Scholars for Truth "respected" source!
Have you actually looked at the member list?
It includes the nutcase founders James H. Fetzer ( a Philosopher NOT a scientist) and Stephen( thermite) Jones they have a large number of members who are scholars in fields such as
English Literature
Associate Professor of Marketing
Professor of Philosophy
Comparative Literature
French language and culture
Why would such scholars be respected for their views on the Science of 9/11?
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Hey NWOGroupie, Penn/Teller broke up. Can you be "Peon & Teller", they need a good actor, you play the asshole role very well. You (naught) Z's, soon all the BS you spewed flows back down your throats. You can't see & forever yell lies. You abet what tests, you failed, bah-bye! adios amoeba. That which owns you loathes you, watch, you'll see, $ no more to go to peons, AI (ART/ignorance) one-time fee, no need peons anymore, ask Rav, Jigs UP, or down.. Zion back/word = NoiZ/noise.or NO IZ/eyes
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2, smoking that chronic doesn't make you smarter. Come back when you're not stoned and read the gibberish you've posted.
BTW dumbass, Penn and Teller are still performing together at the Rio in Vegas. (They even had a show tonight, go check their webiste )
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Kid/pretender wax apple vendor, his ass is gonna burn, A/I code can't read #'s mixed w/letters. A'holes complain like bots as well, U spelling-B cop? shows corps(e) peon mind. Ill give you some ill-UM'ing advice, Jigs u 4 A's thru (not) Z's (yes it was). Hide, better be scared as IT ain't Hollywood reel, its THE real deal, you sold life inside, wrong team. Show fangs at me you'll fill a well. Kiss Ravs puny-head bahbuy cause peon checks never cum again, get what you can while its hot. fool.
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2, DUDE you're either high or should be under a doctor's care!
What's up with sending me PM threats with your puppet account "GuardEden"?
You moron, you didn't think I could tell it was you? Further proof you are stoned or in desperate need of psychological treatment.
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Hey OWNisBS U R death on no legs (snake), UR hate slithering/hissing, bad karma 2U fiat kid. Go play w/Rav & other snakes, UR a mere illusion to go underground soom, abet lies, hurt? WE know who UR. ALL see U 4 what u R, useless pimple on the ass of life, I poked U, the pimple so you spew puss. Keep spewing Irving, gifts coming 2U real not fiat/reel soon. l U actually control this channel 4 baitingl, make strie, snakes mine hate feeds flies/rats/owls. Put wax apple away kid no soup 4 fiat jew.
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2 / GuardEden,
Keep posting psychopathic ramblings!
Now you think I am dahlgutz??
Dude, you're seriously whacked in the head!
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Well who blocks me? Like I say, show how real UR pimple, its simple. I fix pimples. Then puss spews rhetoric. What cred do U got? U stream vids, NO, you fish!, faceless baiter. Nil u say is truth, C, U invest time, NO, UR paid! U R a online poker, pitchfork in type. I poke snakes like U, always same.Attack good people/truth, no vids, claim 2b friend when UR fiend. Looks like a duck? it's a duck, duck Z. Software shows what u hide. Just show your face short vid, u claim 2b of truth but hide?
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2 / GuardEden,
Where did you get the idea that a person needs to have a video to be able to make valid comments?
Why should I show my face? What does my face have to do veracity? You keep claiming I lie and attack people yet you can't point out a single lie or attack.
I propose you show evidence of my lies or attacks or man-up and admit YOU are wrong.
NWOisBS 3 years ago
My posting was blocked, friend sent to u, asked them to post sent it to u Z boy., sorry, you hide so much bit this you want public U cant show your face but u want people to respect a biased view that Peon/Teller have superior investigative skills then engineers & the scientific community? No wonder u can;t show a face. U see, most like u identical, same. Bots can;t read #'s w/letters combined, sound-out word, they don't throw poop like u, lil peons play w/poop, poke/rhetoric/lies. G/l Irving.
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2, you seem to have a hard time understanding I haven't blocked you from any video beccause I DO NOT HAVE ANY VIDEOS!
Do you even understand how YouTube works?
If you think Penn & Peller are claiming to have investigated 9/11 then you are truly dense.
Scientist and Engineers have done investigations of the events of 9/11 and you can read those reults in the FEMA and NIST reports but, I suspect they are way beyond your reading comprehension level.
Enjoy your insanity...
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Insanity? You're sane? an ego worshiper? KID, you're mashugga.. You shill /work of Peon/Teller over k's of over qualified non-Zionist engineers/scientists all experts. You're life is work on YT poke people for fiat $, especially those w/truth. Search your username it shows all your insulting posts/pokes. Your style matches additional avatars as well, you defend your idiocy lots with other accounts.. Like I said hook nose, keep poking me, I POKE BACK harder. Call Rabbit Rav, ask for a raise..
eye8one2 3 years ago
kid, u lie, GE's friend, I was blocked couldn't post, had to poke u more, figured u blocked me, snakes dont like 2b poked, AI goes away. But u, u touched a nerve in me, u remind me of an asshole that hurt friends w/lies. For that you'll feel serious pain, u just wont shut up nor stop lying. Hot cubicle ur in? U work at this, I give freely to rid net of disease, you're nil but a peon, I shit bigger things then u. I see u smirking, like pretend jews do. U need a nose job asswipe, fuck ur ugly Z.
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2 / GuardEden,
WTF are you talking about? I can't block you from any videos because I don't have any.
"For that you'll feel serious pain"
Are you threating me again?
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Your action/intent condemns u as a peon. U create strife, operate pretend accounts, contracted by ,Rav,. U lie constant, rely on childish insults as wit, you;ve w/o creativity, an ape. You spew rhetoric, keep hate alive, earn from stats?. U have tricksters as peers, one don't even speak. U lie about validity of experts who are wiser the peon/teller, U abet perpetrators just.how Cspan Jkie started, same MO/bait for $'s, Show your friends list since you dont have a face? Shows URA liar, No IZS!
eye8one2 3 years ago
"Show your friends list " - eye8one2 / GuardEden
Creeps like you are why I don't show my friends list. I've had dealings with lunitics like you in the past who go to my friends channels and start leaving demented rantings.
NWOisBS 3 years ago
lol, you are a liar, you got no friends, only accomplishes. Also, by search, your not on anyoe list, liar. Want more? You merely poke people on line Irving, cross dresser as well, is that how they got you? lol more to come
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2,
BTW
BNL C D G G/F# Em
TDN E D A
The chords are not the same and the progression is not even close.
The BNL song is not about wasting money it was written from the viewpoint of a kid. Even you should have been able to figure that out from the subtle clues such as "I'd build a treefort in our yard " or "I'd buy you a monkey".
Maybe you're having trouble understanding the song because they're singing in Canadian? LOL
Good bye to you and your cross dressing fantasies. loser
NWOisBS 3 years ago
You like all the other theiorists are a complete descrase to this nation and an insult to the families of those who died on september 11th. Your attempts at undermining the government with your fucked up fairy tales about this "conspiracy" are doomed to FAILURE! I took that comment about "Perl Harbor was allowed to happen" as an insult because My Grandfather served in the resulting war. You really hate this nation so much? Join al quieda, you will be shot dead by an american soldier.
ANTIEMO571 3 years ago
So what about the reightstag fire was that an accident along with the Uss Liberty and mossadeg and Iraq ( no weapons of mass dest..)
If someone does not believe something how is that an insult???? you must be watching fox news too much go out and get some fresh air then take a class in physics 101 then time the collapse of building 7 and the towers and when you have done this correctly and still hold your opinion I will still discuss it with you, besides what have you got to loose ??
spoonogsback 3 years ago
No im not going to one of your websights to look up "credible and factual physics based evidence as to why this was a conspiracy" Not one of those sights has any factual info. because they are all published by fucking collage dropouts looking for attention. This is most likely where you got your information. You havn't lifted a finger to do any real research, nither have your peirs. I suggest you and you little friends go back to collage for a few more years.
ANTIEMO571 3 years ago
Re-read my comment I said go to a website YOU trust.
Oh and BTW the word is Peers.
Piers are what support walls... just so you know.
Oh! one other thing you are obviously a little light on intelligence so I wont say anything you can't understand, but suffice as to say I don't live in your Country in fact I live half way round the world from you.
Oh! and please if you are going to comment in English at least have the good taste to learn how to speak it first.
Peace to you my Friend.
spoonogsback 3 years ago
Hey spoonogsback,
if you are going to correct someone on the meaning of a word you should at least make sure you give the CORRECT definition.
pier noun :
1 a structure leading out to sea and used as a landing stage for boats or as a place of entertainment. 2 Brit. a long narrow structure projecting from an airport terminal and giving access to an aircraft. 3 the pillar of an arch or supporting a bridge. 4 a wall between windows or other adjacent openings.
LOL
BTW "wont" is not a word.
NWOisBS 3 years ago
Way to go you ! ignore the whole meaning and content of my comment and instead focus on an insignificant detail in a silly attempt to convince yourself you have somehow won an argument .
Pier is a support structure in walls it's called a pier as opposed to Pillar due to its lesser purpose in support of the structure. and BTW I have built many over the years.
stop tyring to use Fox news style physco crap you don't have the sufficient capabillities...
man this guy is a Prick... understand that?
spoonogsback 3 years ago
LOL, You (not) Z's, world knows you're liability not asset to your owners now, why aren't you hiding like most? Checks are stopped, no pay for peonismists, Bot-Code pokes for free. Could be its your fetish, invest time poking people online? Unless you're just an idiot but likely you're AI (artificial Ignorance) No face/vid nor friends, attack people, show pro-corps(e) bias, MO is clear. No civility & complain about spelling. What are you 7 or a word cop? If you aren' t bot, owned by dis-Z's.
eye8one2 3 years ago
eye8one2,
I haven't "attacked" anyone, merely pointed out facts. YOU however have decided to 'attack" me. At least I think you're attacking me, your comment is so incoherent I'm not sure what the hell you're trying to say!
Re Spelling
spoonogsback played the spelling & ntelligence card on gd44 first. I simply pointed out that spoonogsback was WRONG.
Re Friends
I have a LOT more than you, I just turned off the list display.
WTF is a dis-Z?
NWOisBS 3 years ago
The fact that the kids who made "Loose Change" are still alive is proof enough that the conspiracy theories are bullshit. The fact that the video even stayed on the internet long enough to get popular is even more proof. If the government would commit the largest known terrorist attack in history with military precision, would they let some pecker-neck with a Mac ruin it? No, they would kill them and/or remove the video.
I win.
Mbash93 3 years ago
If he were killed shortly after the video aired that would PROVE his theory... sorry, but that's a logical fallacy.
I win.
jians5 3 years ago
Again, if the government could do something like 9-11 with such precision to fool an entire nation, do you think they couldn't make the kid's death look like either a random occurrence or accidental coincidence? It seems that the win shifts back to me.
Mbash93 3 years ago
911 was far from precise, it was a complete f-up and they know it . Thats why they just keep ignoring it. Besides they don't really give a shit if you know I think now they want you to know.
besides what proof does anyone have that there were saudis on the planes??
spoonogsback 3 years ago
...so, if it was the faulty insulation on the steel that resulted in steel buildings burning down-
Why hasn't the insulation on ANY building been recalled?
Estamio 3 years ago
Nothing makes a conspiracy theorist appear more insane than when he/she attempts to explain themselves and or discredit their critics. Also, you sound drunk or on a hearty dose of painkillers. Lots of slurring and a disjointed stream of thoughts.
gd44 3 years ago
Wow, that's amazing. Do you realize you called yourself insane by adding that 2nd sentence ? Look up hypocrisy before you post again.
dahlgutz 3 years ago
Being that "conspiracy theorist" was the noun referent, and I am not a conspiracy theorist, I was not calling myself insane by any means. Perhaps a refresher course in grammar would be useful to you.
gd44 3 years ago
I'll try this one more time. THE SECOND SENTENCE COMES AFTER THE FIRST. It is there where you attempted to discredit me with the words "drunk, or on a hearty dose of painkillers. Also, "disjointed stream of thoughts." Am I to understand that because you are not a conspiracy theorist, the same rules don't apply to you ? So, you are free to try to discredit those who disagree with you ?
dahlgutz 3 years ago
Why yes it's true, the same rules do not apply to me because I did not post a video with comments enabled.
gd44 3 years ago
Fine then, comment all you want, safe in the knowledge that you are always right, & facts will never sway you. Just like Bush you can live in your own reality unchallenged. I am interested in an intelligient exchange of ideas. May you find happiness in your reality.
dahlgutz 3 years ago
You know, if you find that your conspiracy theories are threatened by 30 minutes of comedic rhetoric by aging magicians, perhaps your ideas aren't even worthy of any intelligent exchange.
gd44 3 years ago
Now hold on there buddy. Two experts at making you think what you see and hear is bullshit make their living by tricking you ????? and you believe them !!!!!
dude that's sad.. do your own research physics 101 should help...
spoonogsback 3 years ago
Let me guess... "research... physics 101" means go to conspiracy websites with extremely bad and laughably incorrect interpretations of the laws of thermodynamics. No thank you.
gd44 3 years ago
No my friend. I suggest you go to the finest Physics web site that you trust and find out althought you seem to have your mind made up.
Look to be honest if I thought someone could disprove the whole inside job thing in any way i'd be all over it and I would be shoving it down as many throats as I could, But!!!!!!
spoonogsback 3 years ago
You recommend I research physics at a web site? That explains everything. You are a first class buffoon. I have 20 years experience working in science. Most likely you make french fries. No thank you, I do not want to supersize my order but thanks.
gd44 3 years ago
What do lying Z's do for $? They attack good but throw parades for puppets. Foolish Z's actually give simple idiots a bad name. You're fiat/actors w/no cred who claim 2B scientists or other roles in a play, Hollywood's your brain kid,. Sci-Fi TV you may know a lil. You applaud Penn/Teller? Was it the guy who don't talk who impressed you most? Residual 4 idiots poking online stops, ask your leash/lease owner/Rav or Susan! peons/Z's lie-abilities not asset, software need no $, bah-bye Z-loser..
eye8one2 3 years ago
wow I went to gd44 channel, look for wisdom but his stream of truth seems/seams to be for amusement & entertainment not physics. If gd44 had absolute truth w/i, would that not be enough? The why it isn't regards his investment of time to poke shows impoliteness, beings generally are polite, those w/spirit, true life, more then ego. But AI (Artificial Ignorance) or Bots, have no vids or face, like bought/paid 4 shills, both insult while worshiping opinions of celebrity fools. U bot or bought?
eye8one2 3 years ago
The classic 'you are a paid shill' retort is not only great for a chuckle but a definitive statement of your brainwasherationism. Have fun chasing your tail over 911 and remaining intimidated by the opinions of aging magicians.
gd44 3 years ago 2
fangs down kid, you got no face or vid -= no credibility, you're an ill-usion. Keep poking us, its how your kind live. When one of you idiots does a vid, I may give you lil thought, until then, you & those who pretend 2b ignorant, trying to keep others that way as well, dig your own graves. Play safe, keep fangs to yourself. Penn/Teller are your peers/idols, Holly would not lie, would she? Fiat peons for fiat$, way to go gomer Where there's smoke is where the shot originated, LHO? No JOK, YES!
eye8one2 3 years ago
Eye you slay these mocking birds with almost no effort. I will study your ways so some day I too will gain your knowlledge
peace to you.
spoonogsback 3 years ago
lame. Another gullible day dreamer.
1 star.
dgdfhfghgfhgfgffjhj 3 years ago
Penn and Teller suck... 911 was an inside job. The facts are out there. Most people are to lazy or are in denial to do the research. Most people just say, well if NIST says so... OK.... lets watch football, drink a beer,, wave the American flag, and go back to sleep.
ChoDilly 3 years ago
There is no "research" for your claims, they're all horribly though out ideas with barely any fact backing them, if any at all.
Usually only Americans are crazy enough to make that statement.
The funniest "facts" are the ones saying bombs were used. Anyone with a basic understanding knows that heated steel under that much stress will crumble.
The buildings were built to fall as they did so if they ever did, it wouldn't harm other places, again, common sense in building codes.
70k0 3 years ago
There is indeed much research, as referenced by citing Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, & many others can be found easily by those not afraid of facts. Since I am not, & am open to learning please let me know of your refernces that tell you that heated steel will crumble.
Also, which architect says the buildings were built to fall as they did. I tend to believe
buildings are built NOT to fall. This is why you need a team of skilled experts to bring one down.
dahlgutz 3 years ago