About four bars are are used in A Warm Place and then other than that, the rest of the music, the atmosphere and instruments are completely different. Quit whining. If anything, it's a partial cover, not a ripoff. Trent while maintaining that he did not consciously think of the Bowie song while he was making a very similar melody, has said that he knows he'd heard the track before and that it probably came from his subconscious. Completely reasonable psychologically. Not being arrogant about it.
It took my second listening, but I do hear a similarity to A Warm Place. But you know what? Everybody bites off of someone else from time to time. Both of these songs are great!
Nope, Sir. This may be the same scale but as you know (or maybe you don't) music isn't infinite, there is an amount of combinations you can make to get a certain melody and this has nothing to do with stealing. Listen to all the poppy girls, techno and other bullshit that is being played on TV today and think about the similiarities between them and their music and later think about the similiarities between A Warm Place and Crystal Japan.
@Gaarnek1994 1) It's the same EXACT melody 2) Trent Reznor is an avowed Bowie obssessive... This isn't some boy band "accidentally" stumbling upon some major chord progression that's been standard throughout pop history. How can you possibly think this is coincidence?
Yes, because this damn melody is just some fucking scale played in the same order. And from what i hear Bowie is playing it in a different order.
You're just bitching about nothing man. Even if Trent stole this ULTRAMOTHAFUCKIN melody its none of your business. What have you done in your life ? If you can steal from David and make a great track with that stolen part i'd like to hear it, nigga.
PS: Try listening to some crappy metal bands. They sound exactly the same
@Gaarnek1994 You want to get nasty? If anyone's bitching for nothing, it's YOU. Learn to read between the lines you ignorant dip shit. I couldn't give a flying FUCK if Trent "stole" this or not. Both songs are fine... but you must be fucking DEAF BLIND AND BEYOND DUMB if you think Reznor wasn't inspired by this track in the first place. "No similarities" LOL!!!!
Perhaps the reason this was omitted from the Scary monsters album, is that it shows the rest of the tracks - bar the singles - up, for the below average Bowie fare that they are. I don't understand why some people claim that Scary monsters is the last essential album Bowie made. To my mind that accolade goes to the admittedly difficult, but ultimately rewarding, Lodger LP. But then again, who cares what I think?!
there's an interview with bowie and reznor where trent explains how he subconsciously "stole" this song from bowie... they were both in good spirits about it.
By listening to Trent's style of music, you can clearly hear that was influenced by both Bowie and Depeche Mode. Listen to the album "Construction Time Again" 1983 by Depeche Mode and you can really hear some similarities. He probably listened to a lot of New Order too.
@hehfilms I'm you're already aware of these tracks, but just to be sure... Check out some of the stuff on Bowie's 'Low' if you haven't heard it. Plenty of beautiful instrumental/ambient stuff on there.
trent reznor and david bowie are good friends and have even collaborated together (I'm Afraid of Americans, anyone?) so trent used this song as inspiration. BIG DEAL. i'm sure david bowie is fine by it and probably flattered. I like Crystal Japan and A Warm Place. Both greatness.
@Chewtoy2012 inspiration and ripping someone off are two different things entirely everyones influenced by everyone your just TRYING to be hurtful to NIN fans you prick
STOP bitching around about that tiny little piece of melody Trent Reznor has used for A Warm Place. Listen to Mogwai - Sine Wave, THEN you have something to bitch about.
Even though I like Mogwai, I think they should have done a lot more with 'A Warm Place' to make it a good steal
this song was featured in a nightmare i just woke up from... it was damaged, like if you dubbed it to a badly warped vhs tape and played it back.. instead of tape it was translated through pure terror... i was in a hospital where to stay alive i had to scare children until they were paralyzed with fear.. the staff would know when all muscles atrophied and they could no longer blink.. i was a technician in producing catatonic children..
I notice a lot of comparisons to A Warm Place, but Marilyn Manson directly stole the song and used it for the "Untitled" hidden track on Mechanical Animals
this shit is amazing. that signature sound, yes, is with trent. It's also in 'Stripped' especially rammsteins version.. It's also in 'down in the park' by gary numan. They are all such great songs, I'd be sad to hear anyone think they were ripping eachother off or just trying to make a profit by using a catchy sound. more like our memetic-genetic make-ups make these sounds stick. probably especially in certain brains. i like the music.
this shit is amazing. that signature sound, yes, is with trent. It's also in 'Stripped' especially rammsteins version.. It's also in 'down in the park' by gary numan. They are all such great songs, I'd be sad to hear anyone think they were ripping eachother off or just trying to make a profit by using a catchy sound. more like our memetic-genetic make-ups make these sounds stick. probably especially in certain brains. i like the music.
all fags who say rip off... have you seen "Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie Interview Pt. 1"? Trent admits to writing it and thinking "man, I've heard that before..." and asking others "I've heard this, do you know what its from?" ... Then randomly hearing the bonus tracks again and thinking "oh shit!!!"... To which Bowie laughs his ass off and reaffirms the notion that no modern art is truly original. Every similar sequence of notes, every pattern, every sound has been played... So what?
I like NII/I but I have to admit Trent Reznor deffently stole this song, however TR's version is alot more professional and sounds alot more dark and emotional, i like bowie and Though I like NII/ better A Wvarm Place would NOT exist without Crystal Japan.
@whenzombiedogsattack Read the comment I just posted... Then search youtubes for "Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie Interview Pt. 1" ... Not stolen... Unknowingly inspired by... Horrible shame and "GOD DAMNIT" ensued after realizing the source of inspiration...
Besides... All art is a ripped off interpretation of another artists work. Its impossible to escape some form of mimicry if you've been exposed... Fuck man, unless you've lived your entire life in a deep black cave, nothing is pure.
it happens all the time when musicians accidentally take melodies or riffs - it is just how people build up their musical vocabulary. it is a nightmare when it dawns on you that the piece of music you've been slaving on for ages has come from somewhere else. I reckon when musicians discover they have done this, then the piece is often shelved or hacked apart so it sounds less like the original - i am glad Trent Reznor still put A Warm Place on the album as it is awesome in its own right.
There are a lot of popular songs that take parts from other songs. Mozart did it and many others. Sometimes it just happens but it sure ain't the same as sampling. Pretty much every popular band has at least used the same arrangment as another band. The Beatles did it with almost all of their songs. George Harrison didn't want to put out "Something" because it sounded like several other pop songs!
i'm a bit late to the party but why's there been such a debate? People copy other people's sounds all the time. Bowie composing a song in the '70s which NIN later produce something simillar to isn't shock of the century.
the melody is almost exactly the same, tone for tone, there's no denying it. i'm a fan of both and see it as a tribute, seeing trent has admitted bowie being a big inspiration for him.
if you don't hear the similarities you're either a fool or you have a serious hearing impairment.
sure, it's the same genre as a warm place....but people are saying it's almost an exact copy.....good thing yall have never listened to classic rock....i fear the comments that i would read if it was discovered by this crowd.
The Nin version has a different feeling than the Bowie version. While Trent gave the song a really depressing feeling, this one is more mystical, kinda creepy but also interesting to listen. I could never choose between both versions, i just have both in my Ipod.
WOW! Not very familiar with David Bowie...but I grew up listening to Reznor. I've also been a musician for over 20 years, starting at age 10. And with only one play of this clip, it's quite obvious where A Warm Place came from. Actually, the hardest thing to figure out, pertaining to the two songs, is...what drug was Trent on when he came up with the remix?
I prefer a "cover" like the one Trent did, a genius covering another genius, than a John Lennon cover by Tokyo Hotel or Jonas Brothers (they do exist), even though these are "legal" and official.
^^^interview with bowie and trent during their tour in the 90's in which trent mentions to bowie that he used the melody (too his horror) pretty funny actually. but you have to agree both are awesome songs.
To all the idiots claiming that NIN's A Warm Place is a "rip-off" of this song: being vaguely similar does not - repeat NOT - qualify as a rip-off. Conceptually, the two songs are wildly different: Crystal Japan is downbeat, sinister, and highly evocative of the Orient...none of which even remotely describes AWP. The fact that about 5 seconds of this song is almost-but-not-quite-the-same-as part of AWP is such a flimsy excuse for crying "rip-off", it's fucking ridiculous.
@garethac81 The term "rip-off" has obvious negative connotations, but the fact is Reznor has said that A Warm Place is a nod at Bowie in general, and Crystal Japan specifically. They've done projects and toured together since the early 90s. You seem to be implying that the fact that the songs sound similar has nothing to do with intent.
Being inspired by Bowie is not, repeat NOT the same as "ripping off" Bowie. The two songs simply don't have enough in common to qualify that accusation. Not even close.
@garethac81 Huh. Well, suffice to say that plenty of people would apparently disagree with you; that in fact the songs sound, in one part (more than "5 seconds" long, by the way) at least, very much alike. You're right, it doesn't mean Reznor was ripping him off...as I said, I've read that the song is a bit of a tribute to Bowie's song, so it makes sense that they are similar.
For the record, writing "...repeat..." in the text of your posts is sort of stupid. We got it the first time.
Ok, this sounds beautiful. I always heard NIN's A warm place, but this one sunds more... in peace. Any recommendations of songs like this, from Bowie? =) I admit I dont know much about him, but I'm willing to learn =)
It was composed for Japanese TV commercial of the Shochu (distilled clear liquor) produced by Takara Shuzo Co.,Ltd. in 1980. People of Takara Shuzo originally expected the music including Bowie's voice, but the completed one was of only instruments. So, they was angry with Bowie at that time (^^;
However, after the commercial was actually telecasted, this music and elegant pictures gave a very strong impression to Japanese young people and the demand of the Shochu rapidly increased.
i liek A Warm place and this song, although i jsut experience a lot more emotion with AWP, but without this the song wouldnt have been, oh wtf ever...
@erynperyn Indeed, it's called a tribute. Kind of like Buckethead (as Death Cube K) tributed Maggot Brain with Maggot Dream. They use the original style as a template, but make it their own way.
I think this sound, tempo, atmosphere is all too similar even trent said in an interview i owe you some coprights because he even himself said I know I've heard this somewhere. I'm myself a musician but it's one thing to make something stylistically similar not rhythmically/melodic similar. They're both good in their own right but he did get influenced by Skinny Puppy "Dig It" why not this?
I just consider a warm place and japan as sister songs. Both are simular but when it comes down to it, they are two different songs. When hearing this song, you get the feel of dreamy bliss. When hearing AWP, it get the feeling of hitting bottom and trying to find a meaning. Two different songs. Two different meaning. Two great artist.
man on every warm place video i saw people bitching about how trent copied this off bowies crystal japan so i came here to check it out and my ears bled. this shit is actually a steaming pile of crap. i dont know if reznor copied it but if he did, he made it polished a turd into a masterpiece.
im dead fucking serious every coment is about this song being a rip off or not jesus wtf , just listen and say something cliche like beautiful or life changing
to call this a rip off of A Warm Place is silly, nearly every artist is influenced to some degree by sombody else and Reznor is obviously a massive fan of Bowie`s and his earlier ambient phase such as this. Both are massively talented.
@alteregoash My god ok I get it.. really I like both too . Originality is like your thoughts they all come from somwhere ,even if they appear they do not ;)
BTW What other ambient stuff has bowie done that comes close to this ?
Trent and Bowie have been friends for years, and Trent admits that much of his influence comes from Davids music, so its only natural that this would occur, whether as a tribute, or by accident. I'm a musician myself, and when I write music, I often find that I accidently use elements of others work that I often listen to. It happens, though it does so unconsciously much of the time.
there is an interview, type "trent bowie interview" to find it, and trent explains what happened. he didnt realize till after the album was released that that part was a bowie motif
But the melody and chords progress in a very logical way on a piano. One line ascending in diatonic minor and one descending, then resolving on relatice major. I have heard this combination in many different places in many different genres (once in a porno soundtrack even).
It's like trying to copyright I-IV-V its too common to even bother thinking about
Love this song, i always find myself to be dreaming im in a dark and gigantic forrest, all by myself, people may find the thought of it scary, but i love nothing more then being alone.
Stop being so arrogant, of course it sounds like it, its undeniable, its unavoidable, I make my own music and I find the bands that i am influenced by manage to creep their riffs in every now and again. So stop being close minded, Trent Reznor isn't the only musical genius to walk this fucking earth.
@DSCook I see what you mean, it already starts at 0:49 in my opinion. But it don't think it was picked on purpose by trent reznor. But this bowie piece sounds great. I think even a bit better than reznors similar sounding one.
@SteadyHaze I hear you. You need to do something completely new that sets new standards, to be called a genius. And Trent has certainly done that with NIN.
I entitle Trent as a genius on account of musical history and not by personal taste.
@DSCook No, seriously, that one tiny segment is the only real resemblance here. It's not like it's a big deal, it's not even worth bringing up. Trent didn't write a whole song based on fifteen seconds of a David Bowie song, and if he did, whether or not it was an accident (a credible explanation), more power to him.
trent reznor made it his own, i like that version better than this one, and only because it plays an integral part in the flow and storyline of the great "Downward Spiral" and because of it being sorta cynical and more beautiful on that record. This sounds like he made it with with fruity loops or something, o offense to bowie or anything. But Trent didn't rip this off, its a coincidence
i think he admited to being influenced by the song. hey... that's art for you Cash did a cover of Hurt.... sometimes you just take it and make it your own... if you can bring something to the table then then it's legit... if you're rehashing and taking credit that's a rip
Right. I made a search for "copying unintentionally" on Google and got several hits, quite a few of which were in documents from well known universities. Go figure.
People stop moaning about NIN, A Warm Place is a brilliant song and so is this.
21Placebo 1 month ago
About four bars are are used in A Warm Place and then other than that, the rest of the music, the atmosphere and instruments are completely different. Quit whining. If anything, it's a partial cover, not a ripoff. Trent while maintaining that he did not consciously think of the Bowie song while he was making a very similar melody, has said that he knows he'd heard the track before and that it probably came from his subconscious. Completely reasonable psychologically. Not being arrogant about it.
AlthoughNotAFollower 1 month ago 3
this is the original, and its the darkest. reminds a bit of clock work orange. AWSOME
suoganraistrick 1 month ago
It took my second listening, but I do hear a similarity to A Warm Place. But you know what? Everybody bites off of someone else from time to time. Both of these songs are great!
Cubehead666 2 months ago
@Cubehead666 watch the interviews of trent and bowie together,its an addmitted accidental ripoff
stevefordfreak 1 month ago
i don't hear much similiarities between this and A Warm Place.
Gaarnek1994 2 months ago
@Gaarnek1994 You,re kidding right?
borowczyk76 1 month ago
@borowczyk76
Nope, Sir. This may be the same scale but as you know (or maybe you don't) music isn't infinite, there is an amount of combinations you can make to get a certain melody and this has nothing to do with stealing. Listen to all the poppy girls, techno and other bullshit that is being played on TV today and think about the similiarities between them and their music and later think about the similiarities between A Warm Place and Crystal Japan.
Gaarnek1994 1 month ago
@Gaarnek1994 1) It's the same EXACT melody 2) Trent Reznor is an avowed Bowie obssessive... This isn't some boy band "accidentally" stumbling upon some major chord progression that's been standard throughout pop history. How can you possibly think this is coincidence?
borowczyk76 1 month ago
@borowczyk76
Yes, because this damn melody is just some fucking scale played in the same order. And from what i hear Bowie is playing it in a different order.
You're just bitching about nothing man. Even if Trent stole this ULTRAMOTHAFUCKIN melody its none of your business. What have you done in your life ? If you can steal from David and make a great track with that stolen part i'd like to hear it, nigga.
PS: Try listening to some crappy metal bands. They sound exactly the same
Gaarnek1994 1 month ago
@Gaarnek1994 You want to get nasty? If anyone's bitching for nothing, it's YOU. Learn to read between the lines you ignorant dip shit. I couldn't give a flying FUCK if Trent "stole" this or not. Both songs are fine... but you must be fucking DEAF BLIND AND BEYOND DUMB if you think Reznor wasn't inspired by this track in the first place. "No similarities" LOL!!!!
borowczyk76 1 month ago
@borowczyk76
umad u fuckin pole XD
PS: you are a fucking hipster, man
Gaarnek1994 1 month ago
@Gaarnek1994 Tough not getting mad at a braindead hic like you. Stay blind idiot, suits you well.
borowczyk76 1 month ago
@borowczyk76
like being blind had something to do with music.
oh you hipsters are so damn funny !
Gaarnek1994 3 weeks ago
Perhaps the reason this was omitted from the Scary monsters album, is that it shows the rest of the tracks - bar the singles - up, for the below average Bowie fare that they are. I don't understand why some people claim that Scary monsters is the last essential album Bowie made. To my mind that accolade goes to the admittedly difficult, but ultimately rewarding, Lodger LP. But then again, who cares what I think?!
MisAnnThorpe 2 months ago
thank you so much for this masterpiece
satyros2 2 months ago
the beginning reminds me of FF7
urturtleismine 2 months ago
there's an interview with bowie and reznor where trent explains how he subconsciously "stole" this song from bowie... they were both in good spirits about it.
themayocycle 3 months ago
It's peculiar how Reznor named his version 'warm place' this song for me always conjures up images of deepest winter.
Parasmunt 3 months ago
Its Bowie in his "Al Gore" era.
Raflegan 3 months ago
By listening to Trent's style of music, you can clearly hear that was influenced by both Bowie and Depeche Mode. Listen to the album "Construction Time Again" 1983 by Depeche Mode and you can really hear some similarities. He probably listened to a lot of New Order too.
destructingparabola 4 months ago
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Well, why don't you fuckers add Mogwai's Sine Wave to your little brag
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aguering 4 months ago
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TheGuering 4 months ago
I know this may sound weird but does anyone think of Mario 64 when listening to A Warm Place?
Commiteee 4 months ago
god, listening to this im so happy i have an imagination to be inspired by this song :)
protozerox 5 months ago
Trent Warm Place!
Arantir666 5 months ago 3
David Bowie, close friend of Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson. Deal with it, baby-boomers.
G0R3GR1ND3R 5 months ago
@theblackandtan
uh.....you should read your own post and take your own advice you just shelled out!
gtrrobster 5 months ago
Wonderful song.
Sam5726 6 months ago
@FetalJuice88 dont eat chocolate before bed! Lol
ruiner0907 6 months ago
@hehfilms you took the words out of my thoughts and wrote them down <3
kutcharaninfan 6 months ago
@hehfilms I'm you're already aware of these tracks, but just to be sure... Check out some of the stuff on Bowie's 'Low' if you haven't heard it. Plenty of beautiful instrumental/ambient stuff on there.
DudermanGG 6 months ago
trent reznor and david bowie are good friends and have even collaborated together (I'm Afraid of Americans, anyone?) so trent used this song as inspiration. BIG DEAL. i'm sure david bowie is fine by it and probably flattered. I like Crystal Japan and A Warm Place. Both greatness.
rockxxromance 7 months ago 2
Reznor admitted openly that he ripped off bowie's crystal Japan and several of the song structures from bowie's "Low" in regard to TDS
Chewtoy2012 7 months ago 3
@Chewtoy2012 inspiration and ripping someone off are two different things entirely everyones influenced by everyone your just TRYING to be hurtful to NIN fans you prick
kutcharaninfan 6 months ago
@theblackandtan c'mon just lighten up... damn.
ishpirate 7 months ago
what a biter. fuck trent reznor.
kds242 7 months ago
him and eno need to lock themselves away and make shit like this for the rest of their lives
p1nkAcid 7 months ago
STOP bitching around about that tiny little piece of melody Trent Reznor has used for A Warm Place. Listen to Mogwai - Sine Wave, THEN you have something to bitch about.
Even though I like Mogwai, I think they should have done a lot more with 'A Warm Place' to make it a good steal
Dgtalw0nd3rland 7 months ago 12
@Dgtalw0nd3rland Whatever moron (calling me a hipster... 1) I'm not 2) Why would that be a bad thing?) Wasted enough time with you...
borowczyk76 3 weeks ago
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"Trent" - "A Warm place".
VeggeMight 7 months ago
@mnml242 your mom eats shit.
ishpirate 7 months ago
"Trent" - "A Warm place".
hatehead1 7 months ago
@mnml242 your mom is copied ;]
ishpirate 8 months ago
this song was featured in a nightmare i just woke up from... it was damaged, like if you dubbed it to a badly warped vhs tape and played it back.. instead of tape it was translated through pure terror... i was in a hospital where to stay alive i had to scare children until they were paralyzed with fear.. the staff would know when all muscles atrophied and they could no longer blink.. i was a technician in producing catatonic children..
FetalJuice88 8 months ago 3
@FetalJuice88 lol jesus man
megawert 7 months ago
am i the only one who can here some down in the park in this as well by gary neuman of course
whatsinthebasket 8 months ago
i love bowie 1980 period scary monsters elephant man ball's ..yes he was so cool
jonnivvvvvvvvvvvv 8 months ago
I notice a lot of comparisons to A Warm Place, but Marilyn Manson directly stole the song and used it for the "Untitled" hidden track on Mechanical Animals
dporter719 9 months ago
Glad other people caught the connection between Warm Place and this song lol.
misterkyle91 9 months ago
ever try playing both at the same time?
blazerage 10 months ago
this shit is amazing. that signature sound, yes, is with trent. It's also in 'Stripped' especially rammsteins version.. It's also in 'down in the park' by gary numan. They are all such great songs, I'd be sad to hear anyone think they were ripping eachother off or just trying to make a profit by using a catchy sound. more like our memetic-genetic make-ups make these sounds stick. probably especially in certain brains. i like the music.
Thephyguy 10 months ago 2
this shit is amazing. that signature sound, yes, is with trent. It's also in 'Stripped' especially rammsteins version.. It's also in 'down in the park' by gary numan. They are all such great songs, I'd be sad to hear anyone think they were ripping eachother off or just trying to make a profit by using a catchy sound. more like our memetic-genetic make-ups make these sounds stick. probably especially in certain brains. i like the music.
Thephyguy 10 months ago
I just wish there was a filter on these comments so that people who say "Trent" or "Warm Place" immediately have their comments deleted
deadbabycasserole 11 months ago 29
@deadbabycasserole David Bowie would probably smack you with his cock for saying that.
G0R3GR1ND3R 5 months ago
@deadbabycasserole David Bowie would probably smack you with his wang for saying that.
G0R3GR1ND3R 5 months ago
@G0R3GR1ND3R comment so nice he said it twice
deadbabycasserole 5 months ago
@deadbabycasserole Ever been to Trent in Dorset, England? It's usually a warm place but at the moment is covered in snow.
dbrunker 1 month ago
all fags who say rip off... have you seen "Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie Interview Pt. 1"? Trent admits to writing it and thinking "man, I've heard that before..." and asking others "I've heard this, do you know what its from?" ... Then randomly hearing the bonus tracks again and thinking "oh shit!!!"... To which Bowie laughs his ass off and reaffirms the notion that no modern art is truly original. Every similar sequence of notes, every pattern, every sound has been played... So what?
Baxxter101 11 months ago 3
David Bowie put his crystal Japan in NIN's warm place....
MCMANUSJS99 1 year ago 4
I like NII/I but I have to admit Trent Reznor deffently stole this song, however TR's version is alot more professional and sounds alot more dark and emotional, i like bowie and Though I like NII/ better A Wvarm Place would NOT exist without Crystal Japan.
whenzombiedogsattack 1 year ago
@whenzombiedogsattack Read the comment I just posted... Then search youtubes for "Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie Interview Pt. 1" ... Not stolen... Unknowingly inspired by... Horrible shame and "GOD DAMNIT" ensued after realizing the source of inspiration...
Besides... All art is a ripped off interpretation of another artists work. Its impossible to escape some form of mimicry if you've been exposed... Fuck man, unless you've lived your entire life in a deep black cave, nothing is pure.
Baxxter101 11 months ago
besides, i really love this tune, and as a separate point, i think I notice elements of Gary Numan's Down In The Park..!
tinomen555 1 year ago
it happens all the time when musicians accidentally take melodies or riffs - it is just how people build up their musical vocabulary. it is a nightmare when it dawns on you that the piece of music you've been slaving on for ages has come from somewhere else. I reckon when musicians discover they have done this, then the piece is often shelved or hacked apart so it sounds less like the original - i am glad Trent Reznor still put A Warm Place on the album as it is awesome in its own right.
tinomen555 1 year ago
There are a lot of popular songs that take parts from other songs. Mozart did it and many others. Sometimes it just happens but it sure ain't the same as sampling. Pretty much every popular band has at least used the same arrangment as another band. The Beatles did it with almost all of their songs. George Harrison didn't want to put out "Something" because it sounded like several other pop songs!
StanAlter 1 year ago
i'm a bit late to the party but why's there been such a debate? People copy other people's sounds all the time. Bowie composing a song in the '70s which NIN later produce something simillar to isn't shock of the century.
arabiansanchez 1 year ago
Cool, cool tune.
listen to this on top of the little mountain on Ie jima, Okinawa.
Heaven.........
tetraskelion 1 year ago
nin backwards
HarlequinHelen 1 year ago
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TheNEWfilmfanatic99 1 year ago
Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie Interview Pt. 1. put that in the youtube search and just watch it. trent and david explain it all
73h1337kiwi 1 year ago
Also its only really some small parts ripped off its not the whole thing
Venddenta 1 year ago
i prefer a warm place
partypotato94 1 year ago
love this song
theblueroses0 1 year ago
reminds me of old video game music
parlock480 1 year ago 3
the melody is almost exactly the same, tone for tone, there's no denying it. i'm a fan of both and see it as a tribute, seeing trent has admitted bowie being a big inspiration for him.
if you don't hear the similarities you're either a fool or you have a serious hearing impairment.
diseasefaktory 1 year ago
@diseasefaktory You're right, but it didn't make a difference since everyone watned to hear the "fuck you like an animal"-song. :D Old internet joke.
JohnACorp782 1 year ago
Yeah guys, who cares.
David Bowie and Trent Reznor are amazing, both songs have got me through some pretty bad times, so who fucking cares?
LiBrA86 1 year ago
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Trent can kiss my fucking ass. He is a worthless piece of irrelevant trash.
bilbosilbo 1 year ago
@bilbosilbo LOL... you such a smalled minded douche
Venddenta 1 year ago
sure, it's the same genre as a warm place....but people are saying it's almost an exact copy.....good thing yall have never listened to classic rock....i fear the comments that i would read if it was discovered by this crowd.
morelgungo 1 year ago 2
Why is this sound so glitchy. There's like all these blips and hiccups that aren't on the original.
RotoPlasmX 1 year ago
I really like this song
It's so peaceful
MyReturningNightmare 1 year ago
The Nin version has a different feeling than the Bowie version. While Trent gave the song a really depressing feeling, this one is more mystical, kinda creepy but also interesting to listen. I could never choose between both versions, i just have both in my Ipod.
Yagamimoon 1 year ago
WOW! Not very familiar with David Bowie...but I grew up listening to Reznor. I've also been a musician for over 20 years, starting at age 10. And with only one play of this clip, it's quite obvious where A Warm Place came from. Actually, the hardest thing to figure out, pertaining to the two songs, is...what drug was Trent on when he came up with the remix?
Ericwayne 1 year ago
I actually liked bowie before NIN, so i loved I'm afraid of americans
Hobbyist56 1 year ago
0:50 - 1:00 has such obvious resemblance, how can people not see it (massive fan of both artists, no need to flame)
davidocall 1 year ago 2
i don't hear the resemblance at all..
masterpaul542 1 year ago
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@masterpaul542 have your hearing checked.
diseasefaktory 1 year ago
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I prefer a "cover" like the one Trent did, a genius covering another genius, than a John Lennon cover by Tokyo Hotel or Jonas Brothers (they do exist), even though these are "legal" and official.
TUIYA
kalyptus 1 year ago
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kalyptus 1 year ago
wwwyoutubecom/watch?v=y0RQCT69y5s
^^^interview with bowie and trent during their tour in the 90's in which trent mentions to bowie that he used the melody (too his horror) pretty funny actually. but you have to agree both are awesome songs.
foreverforgotten 1 year ago 4
This sounds like it could be an an outtake from Heroes.
TheRealArtzilla 1 year ago 2
I am really enjoying this song.. I think I will invest a bit more time into listening to Bowie.
CaptainCheq 1 year ago
He explains the similarity between the songs in this interview /watch?v=y0RQCT69y5s&feature=related
felipehorvath 1 year ago
This is amazing! It makes me think of a strange, beautiful combination of the themes from "Tron" and "Twin Peaks."
zumbrella81 1 year ago
Who cares?? Both good songs.
ron22696 1 year ago 3
at smellyeric: um you obviously dont listen. read solphilos's comment it basically explains how dumb and def you are. lol so dumb...
carlosspiceyweener54 1 year ago
To all the idiots claiming that NIN's A Warm Place is a "rip-off" of this song: being vaguely similar does not - repeat NOT - qualify as a rip-off. Conceptually, the two songs are wildly different: Crystal Japan is downbeat, sinister, and highly evocative of the Orient...none of which even remotely describes AWP. The fact that about 5 seconds of this song is almost-but-not-quite-the-same-as part of AWP is such a flimsy excuse for crying "rip-off", it's fucking ridiculous.
garethac81 1 year ago
@garethac81 The term "rip-off" has obvious negative connotations, but the fact is Reznor has said that A Warm Place is a nod at Bowie in general, and Crystal Japan specifically. They've done projects and toured together since the early 90s. You seem to be implying that the fact that the songs sound similar has nothing to do with intent.
opiate9 1 year ago
@opiate9
Being inspired by Bowie is not, repeat NOT the same as "ripping off" Bowie. The two songs simply don't have enough in common to qualify that accusation. Not even close.
garethac81 1 year ago
@garethac81 Huh. Well, suffice to say that plenty of people would apparently disagree with you; that in fact the songs sound, in one part (more than "5 seconds" long, by the way) at least, very much alike. You're right, it doesn't mean Reznor was ripping him off...as I said, I've read that the song is a bit of a tribute to Bowie's song, so it makes sense that they are similar.
For the record, writing "...repeat..." in the text of your posts is sort of stupid. We got it the first time.
opiate9 1 year ago
Ok, this sounds beautiful. I always heard NIN's A warm place, but this one sunds more... in peace. Any recommendations of songs like this, from Bowie? =) I admit I dont know much about him, but I'm willing to learn =)
Yagamimoon 1 year ago
@Yagamimoon Subterraneans from the album Low is much like this and was also preformed with NIN during the 1995 Outside tour.
metalgearcolin75 1 year ago
i love NIN, and actuall is my favorite band, but this song sounds a little too familiar to a warm place! besides Bowie is also a musical genius!
hollowprozak 1 year ago
Sounds like a small part in apocalypse now when they helicopters are heading towards the beach before the ride of the valkaries starts.
DAN13LS70NE 1 year ago
A Warm Place is better, but it's cool to see where it came from
AnonymLonen 1 year ago
have you listened the Solo of "New Dawn Fades" (Joy Division)??
Nelo907 1 year ago
this is one of my fav songs. it is way better than AWP btw. lol. this has an overall more numbing effect on me, which is awesome.
SmellyEricv29 1 year ago
It was composed for Japanese TV commercial of the Shochu (distilled clear liquor) produced by Takara Shuzo Co.,Ltd. in 1980. People of Takara Shuzo originally expected the music including Bowie's voice, but the completed one was of only instruments. So, they was angry with Bowie at that time (^^;
However, after the commercial was actually telecasted, this music and elegant pictures gave a very strong impression to Japanese young people and the demand of the Shochu rapidly increased.
HongouZenkurou 1 year ago
This is damn sobering, certainly when you consider the difference between the other tracks on scary monsters
p1nkAcid 1 year ago
Bowie is God
pachanclaskalesito 1 year ago 3
Reznor admitted 'writing' this, then realised later where he had gotten it from.
ziggypop79 1 year ago
@WYarranton Bum.
axelsteel05 1 year ago
i like a warm place like 3 times better. i see the how there alike but really there is a large difference between the two.
369skeet 1 year ago
i liek A Warm place and this song, although i jsut experience a lot more emotion with AWP, but without this the song wouldnt have been, oh wtf ever...
RoyLikesKMFDM 1 year ago
AWP was based off this melody.... it isn't a ripoff... of course they sound remotely alike, but AWP is definitely not a ripoff of this song.
erynperyn 1 year ago
@erynperyn Indeed, it's called a tribute. Kind of like Buckethead (as Death Cube K) tributed Maggot Brain with Maggot Dream. They use the original style as a template, but make it their own way.
NightmareGanon 1 year ago
@NightmareGanon and they both r00l
erynperyn 1 year ago
@erynperyn *cough* ripoff *cough cough *AWP is a total fn ripoff *cough* whew excuse me
SmellyEricv29 1 year ago
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erynperyn 1 year ago 2
I think this sound, tempo, atmosphere is all too similar even trent said in an interview i owe you some coprights because he even himself said I know I've heard this somewhere. I'm myself a musician but it's one thing to make something stylistically similar not rhythmically/melodic similar. They're both good in their own right but he did get influenced by Skinny Puppy "Dig It" why not this?
ladymoonage 1 year ago
I just consider a warm place and japan as sister songs. Both are simular but when it comes down to it, they are two different songs. When hearing this song, you get the feel of dreamy bliss. When hearing AWP, it get the feeling of hitting bottom and trying to find a meaning. Two different songs. Two different meaning. Two great artist.
ishpirate 1 year ago 18
He is a genius
adric137 1 year ago
man on every warm place video i saw people bitching about how trent copied this off bowies crystal japan so i came here to check it out and my ears bled. this shit is actually a steaming pile of crap. i dont know if reznor copied it but if he did, he made it polished a turd into a masterpiece.
MacDaddyPooty 1 year ago
This song was sampled in a Warm Place but I like both because they are unique in their own ways
Duder871 1 year ago
trent reznor might have copied this, but who cares? if u ask me, trents version sounds a million times better.
streetlight482 1 year ago
1:15-1:25 yes
slingblade1991 1 year ago
makes me think of bladerunner...
mommyimadeapoopy 1 year ago
I always think of a demented circus when i hear this awesome tune!!
gzussturbo 1 year ago
A Warm Place was definitely inspired by this, but a ripoff? Nah. The differences between the two are too vast for AWP to be considered a ripoff.
The atmosphere of this song has a Bowie feel to it. AWP doesn't feel at all like a Bowie song.
dlancer2k 1 year ago 3
yeah its not a ripoff...
TheYersinia666 1 year ago
im dead fucking serious every coment is about this song being a rip off or not jesus wtf , just listen and say something cliche like beautiful or life changing
TheNineinchsnails 1 year ago 2
here's a proposition: read the ninwiki you dumb fucks.
nineinchnailsrock 2 years ago
to call this a rip off of A Warm Place is silly, nearly every artist is influenced to some degree by sombody else and Reznor is obviously a massive fan of Bowie`s and his earlier ambient phase such as this. Both are massively talented.
69crafty 2 years ago 4
To call this a rip-off of A Warm Place is silly, because this song was written 14 years before A Warm Place.
IndustrialPlatypus 2 years ago 10
@IndustrialPlatypus Ok case sealed ... so trent stole one , has he ever acknowledged it ?
kinkabala 10 months ago
@kinkabala Look around the musical industry, this stuff happens all the time. In the industry, we call it "Taking Inspiration"
Tekar111 10 months ago
@kinkabala There an interview here somewhere with the two of them together. Trent admits he subconsciously took his version from this.
ittdust 10 months ago
@ittdust subconsciously lmao
kidave1 9 months ago
@kinkabala in an interview with bowie he acknowledged the similarities. It really is a different song though.
alteregoash 8 months ago
@alteregoash My god ok I get it.. really I like both too . Originality is like your thoughts they all come from somwhere ,even if they appear they do not ;)
BTW What other ambient stuff has bowie done that comes close to this ?
kinkabala 8 months ago
@kinkabala Most of it is better I'd say. For example Warzawa or Subterreneans.
ivankaramasov 8 months ago
@69crafty i meant it`s silly to call A Warm Place a rip off of this. My bad.
69crafty 2 years ago
People take shit way to seriously, lol.
Trent and Bowie have been friends for years, and Trent admits that much of his influence comes from Davids music, so its only natural that this would occur, whether as a tribute, or by accident. I'm a musician myself, and when I write music, I often find that I accidently use elements of others work that I often listen to. It happens, though it does so unconsciously much of the time.
Solphilos 2 years ago 78
@Solphilos too** seriously!!!! Obviously you don't take spelling seriously! LULZ
Khyrid 1 year ago
@Solphilos
it is not natural.
minimalista242 1 year ago
there is an interview, type "trent bowie interview" to find it, and trent explains what happened. he didnt realize till after the album was released that that part was a bowie motif
xpurity666 2 years ago 2
It's possible this was an accidental rip off.
But the melody and chords progress in a very logical way on a piano. One line ascending in diatonic minor and one descending, then resolving on relatice major. I have heard this combination in many different places in many different genres (once in a porno soundtrack even).
It's like trying to copyright I-IV-V its too common to even bother thinking about
slowfuse 2 years ago
Love this song, i always find myself to be dreaming im in a dark and gigantic forrest, all by myself, people may find the thought of it scary, but i love nothing more then being alone.
vikingfaen 2 years ago
I honestly did not notice the similarity until a minute into it. The beginnings are quite different.
Aridcreaturehere 2 years ago
A Warm Place sounds nothing like this, period
Zealant 2 years ago
You are deaf in the ears if you believe that. Trent himself call A Warm Place an accidental rip off.
2000BlazerLS 2 years ago 2
Right, i am a HUGE Nine Inch Nails fan.
Listen at 1:20.
LISTEN!
Stop being so arrogant, of course it sounds like it, its undeniable, its unavoidable, I make my own music and I find the bands that i am influenced by manage to creep their riffs in every now and again. So stop being close minded, Trent Reznor isn't the only musical genius to walk this fucking earth.
DSCook 2 years ago 37
@DSCook I see what you mean, it already starts at 0:49 in my opinion. But it don't think it was picked on purpose by trent reznor. But this bowie piece sounds great. I think even a bit better than reznors similar sounding one.
Schlimmerfinger87 1 year ago
@DSCook Trent Reznor, a musical genius? People throw that title at the artist they love too freely.
SteadyHaze 1 year ago
@SteadyHaze I hear you. You need to do something completely new that sets new standards, to be called a genius. And Trent has certainly done that with NIN.
I entitle Trent as a genius on account of musical history and not by personal taste.
BlissIntolerance 1 year ago 2
@BlissIntolerance Of course you do, you're allowing your personal tastes to seep into your decision making again.
SteadyHaze 1 year ago
@SteadyHaze If you don't take musical history of the early 90's into consideration, I will agree.
BlissIntolerance 1 year ago 2
@DSCook trent made a warm place sub conscientiously he admitted he copied it but not purposefully
TheNineinchsnails 1 year ago
@DSCook No, seriously, that one tiny segment is the only real resemblance here. It's not like it's a big deal, it's not even worth bringing up. Trent didn't write a whole song based on fifteen seconds of a David Bowie song, and if he did, whether or not it was an accident (a credible explanation), more power to him.
Zealant 1 year ago
@DSCook wow :D its the "Warm Place"
flyboy2000008 1 year ago
druggie? Trent ain't no druggie, and it is his interpretation if nothing else. He didn't rip anything off
dasnake1234 2 years ago
trent reznor made it his own, i like that version better than this one, and only because it plays an integral part in the flow and storyline of the great "Downward Spiral" and because of it being sorta cynical and more beautiful on that record. This sounds like he made it with with fruity loops or something, o offense to bowie or anything. But Trent didn't rip this off, its a coincidence
dasnake1234 2 years ago 3
repackaged
vaf88 2 years ago
i think he admited to being influenced by the song. hey... that's art for you Cash did a cover of Hurt.... sometimes you just take it and make it your own... if you can bring something to the table then then it's legit... if you're rehashing and taking credit that's a rip
keyotikdragon 2 years ago 5
I understand what you mean, and I disagree.
ivankaramasov 2 years ago
Right. I made a search for "copying unintentionally" on Google and got several hits, quite a few of which were in documents from well known universities. Go figure.
ivankaramasov 2 years ago
You clearly have very little knowledge about psychology.
ivankaramasov 2 years ago