John L. Sullivan, Jim Corbett, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jim Jeffries, Marvin Heart, Tommy Burns, JACK JOHNSON, Jess Willard, JACK DEMPSEY, GENE TUNNEY, Max Schmeling, Jack Sharkey, Primo Carnera, Max Baer, James Braddock, JOE LOUIS, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, ROCKY MARCIANO, Floyd Patterson, Ingemar Johansson, Floyd Patterson SONNY LISTON, MUHAMMAD ALI, SMOKIN' JOE FRAZIER, GEORGE FOREMAN, MUHAMMAD ALI, Leon Spinks, MUHAMMAD ALI, LARRY HOLMES, Michael Spinks, MIKE TYSON etc.............
Imagine John L Sullivan fighting and trained in today's boxing? If he could box bare-knuckle and wrestle 75 rounds were rules were laxed and dirty boxing was common imagine him fighting 10 and 12 rounds in golves? Can anyone say - BEAST!
think about what we are seeing here! these are some of the first moving images of a human. not a painting, a still picture, a drawing in the newspaper. these are people moving and their images seen by others. i know i'm high, but like.......that has to mean something.
Prior to the introduction of the Queensberry Rules, boxing was with bare fists. A round ended when a man was knocked down, or thrown. He was then given thirty seconds to recover and a further eight seconds to come up to scratch, i.e. return to the centre of the ring where a line was drawn.
The Queensberry rules standardised rounds to three minutes and a minute rest. Although knock outs were recognised there was no official points system and the winner was often the one named by the press.
Come on in all fairness they had no gloves so punches would be far more devastating even a fairly unactive fight should not go to bloody round 75 anyone today would collapse long before them 2 hours and 16 minutes is just insane.
Contrary to what one might believe, punches are far more devastating WITH gloves. A human skull is so hard, that punching it with your bare fists will be very damaging to your hand. Therefore - in the old days, fighters punched more to the body, and with less force to the head, and were often able to go many rounds.
The boxing glove primarily protects the puncher's HAND, not the head of the one being punched, and can thus generate a lot more concussive power than before.
@pdecarlo Oh really. Read the newspaper accounts of the Sullivan vs Kilrain bout. Many exchanges are described per round. Under London Prize rules throws were also allowed, kind of like an ancient MMA fight.
I round was not over until a knock down or throw down of some kind occured.
Fitzsimmon's took Corbet's title with a left hook to the liver. He called it his "solar plexus punch" but it was the same blow that Bernard Hopkins used to kayo Oscar De La Hoya. When the blood is forced out of the liver, it's all over.
@ExperTiinViolence That's becaseu there was a colour bar. Black fighters were not allowed to fight for the world heavyweight title, until Jack Johnson did so, some years after the likes of Corbett, Sullivan, etc.
@ExperTiinViolence actually moron, boxing was around at the time of the egyptian empire. So are you saying egyptians are white? some ppl are so ignorant it's actually pretty funny. To tell you the truth, I'm almost positive you've never even been in a boxing ring in your life
I hate the fact that they didn't state that when Jeffries retiered Jack Johnson,who was milles ahead of him was deafiting every oponent and that his retirement was shameful,eventualy he deafeted him in 1910,very very very easily and with a huge smile on his face
reckon you'd get a few people, me being one of them disputing this call d/boy, but hey shout it out....thaz what it's all about ..probably then also....having just come of some fights of the 60's where the imagery is much better and the evolution is 'intensely visible'....what i think hasn't evolved is the wisdom of marquis queensbury rules which allowed a sport to resonate into the future ....
I dont know where some of these documentaries get their info from, but according to Boxrec DOT c o m, billy squires wasnt 37-0(37ko) coming into this fight. Infact Boxrec has him listed at 20-11(10ko) for his whole career.
LOL....now that I think about it, I bet I know what they did. They told the betting public that this australian fellow was 37-0 with 37 ko's so they'd bet all their money on him. Instead he was a nobody who foght a bunch of nobodies in his home country and the fight fixers back then cleaned up.
Damn cheating is a never ending situation in sports gambling.
I can't figure out for the life of me how John L. Sullivan could have been a champion of anything. I mean if you toss out his fight with Charley Mitchell (18-0), Sullivan's first 33 opponents had a combined record of 6-10. That's right, SIX and TEN from 33 fights.
He only fought 3 guys total during his career with a decent record, winning two and losing his last to James Corbett, another guy who was an over-rated heavyweight champion from the early days.
It wasn't the 3 minute round structure from the Marquess of Queensbury rules though, London Prize Ring Rules stated that when a boxer was knocked down, he had 30 seconds to get up and return to the "scratch line". Basically once a knockdown was achieved, that was the end of the round and when the boxer went back to the "scratch line" that was the beginning of the next round.
LOL no. If you watch the old films from the fights back then, the bare knuckle fighters didn't fight every minute of those 75 rounds. There'd be whole rounds of nothing but stalking and circling and waiting for the other guy to attack. Very boring by today's standards. Still took a great deal of endurance though, but its not the big accomplishment that it appears to be on paper.
wtf so many rounds? how didn't they die from exhaustion lol them must get like 10 minutes break every round lol or ythey had the best stamina back then
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I think the era accelerated when Dempsey and Tunney came into the fold. Those were the best heavyweights back then not some shitty over 240lbs slow ass who im seeing now guys like Norton, Ali, Frazier, Foreman and many others
Everybodys saying 'there goes my grandaddy' i guess i better jump on the bandwagon lol Jack Johnson is my uncle!!!!!
LelandnSonya4eva 2 months ago
JOE LOUIS IS THE GREATEST OF ALLLLL TIIIIMESSS OF ALLLLL TIMMMMEEESSS
LelandnSonya4eva 2 months ago
i really think that jack johnson was the first fighter that would still be good in modern times
snoop11080 3 months ago
@snoop11080 Agreed.
Soulblackman 3 weeks ago
fighting without gloves
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dominik13579 4 months ago
John L. Sullivan, Jim Corbett, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jim Jeffries, Marvin Heart, Tommy Burns, JACK JOHNSON, Jess Willard, JACK DEMPSEY, GENE TUNNEY, Max Schmeling, Jack Sharkey, Primo Carnera, Max Baer, James Braddock, JOE LOUIS, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, ROCKY MARCIANO, Floyd Patterson, Ingemar Johansson, Floyd Patterson SONNY LISTON, MUHAMMAD ALI, SMOKIN' JOE FRAZIER, GEORGE FOREMAN, MUHAMMAD ALI, Leon Spinks, MUHAMMAD ALI, LARRY HOLMES, Michael Spinks, MIKE TYSON etc.............
truebeliever786 4 months ago 2
@truebeliever786 ....Evander Hollyfeild, Lennox Lewis, Vitaly Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko
edgarvolkov 3 months ago
@edgarvolkov You missed 'James Buster Douglas', 'Riddick Bowe', 'Michael Moorer' and 'George Foreman' =]
truebeliever786 3 months ago
@edgarvolkov Yep.. now we've got the full list seems like..
edgarvolkov 3 months ago
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kustomsf 6 months ago
Imagine John L Sullivan fighting and trained in today's boxing? If he could box bare-knuckle and wrestle 75 rounds were rules were laxed and dirty boxing was common imagine him fighting 10 and 12 rounds in golves? Can anyone say - BEAST!
MrBumboclart 6 months ago
That Burns - Squires fight was horrific. More wrestling than boxing. Fantastic footage of Fitz - Corbett fight though, historic stuff.
Pihasanddunes1 8 months ago
think about what we are seeing here! these are some of the first moving images of a human. not a painting, a still picture, a drawing in the newspaper. these are people moving and their images seen by others. i know i'm high, but like.......that has to mean something.
sychly 8 months ago
75 round with bare hand boxing ..omg.!!
nataschmidtt 8 months ago
Prior to the introduction of the Queensberry Rules, boxing was with bare fists. A round ended when a man was knocked down, or thrown. He was then given thirty seconds to recover and a further eight seconds to come up to scratch, i.e. return to the centre of the ring where a line was drawn.
The Queensberry rules standardised rounds to three minutes and a minute rest. Although knock outs were recognised there was no official points system and the winner was often the one named by the press.
44phil1 8 months ago
10:26 sucker punch in the crowd lol
rosklito 10 months ago
THANX HKSCOT
abudujana13 10 months ago
John L Sullivan was a bad motherfucker!!!
muclesmarinara 11 months ago
If your shocked by round 75 you need to learn your boxing history, simple as
diablo367 1 year ago 4
Hey great site for these fights and much much more.
w w w . b o x i n g c a r e e r d v d s. c o m
hatemail11 1 year ago
Don't be shocked by the Round 75. These fighters threw only a few punches a round, and dodged a lot of them.
pdecarlo 1 year ago
@pdecarlo
Come on in all fairness they had no gloves so punches would be far more devastating even a fairly unactive fight should not go to bloody round 75 anyone today would collapse long before them 2 hours and 16 minutes is just insane.
403766 1 year ago
@403766
Not true.
Contrary to what one might believe, punches are far more devastating WITH gloves. A human skull is so hard, that punching it with your bare fists will be very damaging to your hand. Therefore - in the old days, fighters punched more to the body, and with less force to the head, and were often able to go many rounds.
The boxing glove primarily protects the puncher's HAND, not the head of the one being punched, and can thus generate a lot more concussive power than before.
ApeDeng 1 year ago 5
@pdecarlo Oh really. Read the newspaper accounts of the Sullivan vs Kilrain bout. Many exchanges are described per round. Under London Prize rules throws were also allowed, kind of like an ancient MMA fight.
I round was not over until a knock down or throw down of some kind occured.
andrewr62 6 months ago
Their mustaches actually did the fighting.
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago 3
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SZSearcher 1 year ago
Fitzsimmon's took Corbet's title with a left hook to the liver. He called it his "solar plexus punch" but it was the same blow that Bernard Hopkins used to kayo Oscar De La Hoya. When the blood is forced out of the liver, it's all over.
sweetcurmudgeon 1 year ago
Jake Kilrain was my great grandfather i was named after him!
killa9599 1 year ago
wow.. thats my grand dad. James J. Corbett
IdrOpBaLLZ 1 year ago
last time I checked. White men ARE the true forefathers of boxing!
ExperTiinViolence 1 year ago
@ExperTiinViolence That's becaseu there was a colour bar. Black fighters were not allowed to fight for the world heavyweight title, until Jack Johnson did so, some years after the likes of Corbett, Sullivan, etc.
TricycleTim 1 year ago
@ExperTiinViolence actually moron, boxing was around at the time of the egyptian empire. So are you saying egyptians are white? some ppl are so ignorant it's actually pretty funny. To tell you the truth, I'm almost positive you've never even been in a boxing ring in your life
lefthook29 1 year ago
America at its industrial greatest. Before it started to become the police state its becoming.
MultiSpread 1 year ago
Cheers for posting mate, love vids like these.
ROCKYMARCIANOXX0 1 year ago
I hate the fact that they didn't state that when Jeffries retiered Jack Johnson,who was milles ahead of him was deafiting every oponent and that his retirement was shameful,eventualy he deafeted him in 1910,very very very easily and with a huge smile on his face
talibanu509 2 years ago
@talibanu509 They also didn't mention that Johnson
had lost to likes of Marvin Hart and was Ko'd by over the
hill Joe Choynski. The Jeffries v Johnson fight my have
been a very differnt story had it happened in 1905,
andrewr62 1 year ago
the evolution of the sport my ass; boxing hasn't really changed that much at all.
these old time boxing matches barely look different from modern bouts, and truly, boxing was at its peak during the golden age.
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago
reckon you'd get a few people, me being one of them disputing this call d/boy, but hey shout it out....thaz what it's all about ..probably then also....having just come of some fights of the 60's where the imagery is much better and the evolution is 'intensely visible'....what i think hasn't evolved is the wisdom of marquis queensbury rules which allowed a sport to resonate into the future ....
junkieland 2 years ago
resonate should read reverberate...
junkieland 2 years ago
Round 75???? HOLY SHIT!!!! George Foreman in his prime would probably be dead in round 20!
JSPUFC 2 years ago
Foerman would have killed them both in the first round.
jimmywrangles 2 years ago 2
LOL!!!!!!!
sugarfrankjr 1 year ago
"Hit'im in the slats Bobby"!!
zyphoid666 2 years ago
Round 75???!!!!
stargate121 2 years ago 2
Yuuup...
Shit was crazy back thenlol
pplafritz1 2 years ago
I dont know where some of these documentaries get their info from, but according to Boxrec DOT c o m, billy squires wasnt 37-0(37ko) coming into this fight. Infact Boxrec has him listed at 20-11(10ko) for his whole career.
dahoss65 2 years ago
LOL....now that I think about it, I bet I know what they did. They told the betting public that this australian fellow was 37-0 with 37 ko's so they'd bet all their money on him. Instead he was a nobody who foght a bunch of nobodies in his home country and the fight fixers back then cleaned up.
Damn cheating is a never ending situation in sports gambling.
dahoss65 2 years ago 2
I can't figure out for the life of me how John L. Sullivan could have been a champion of anything. I mean if you toss out his fight with Charley Mitchell (18-0), Sullivan's first 33 opponents had a combined record of 6-10. That's right, SIX and TEN from 33 fights.
He only fought 3 guys total during his career with a decent record, winning two and losing his last to James Corbett, another guy who was an over-rated heavyweight champion from the early days.
dahoss65 2 years ago
What kind of human being can do 75 rounds
hukootuna 2 years ago
Chuck Norris
burgerking000 2 years ago 2
oh yehh thats true....
hukootuna 2 years ago
theres been records of people fighting for over 100 rounds, if someone wasnt knockedout at the end it was a no contest
1kb3nt3g3k 1 year ago
@hukootuna Lol!!!!!!!! I never laughed so hard in my life
GranKnight87 1 year ago
What the F*+CK does he mean round 75
hukootuna 2 years ago
round 75!? wtf
nephildevil 2 years ago 12
@nephildevil
It wasn't the 3 minute round structure from the Marquess of Queensbury rules though, London Prize Ring Rules stated that when a boxer was knocked down, he had 30 seconds to get up and return to the "scratch line". Basically once a knockdown was achieved, that was the end of the round and when the boxer went back to the "scratch line" that was the beginning of the next round.
zyphoid666 1 year ago
@nephildevil damn no fing way
pronoob76 8 months ago
@nephildevil take note there not wearing gloves that time thats wtf
jayr122001 3 months ago
i wonder how different the gloves were back then.
bigboyburnsy 2 years ago
they might as well have been fighting bare knuckled...
dabluz1125 2 years ago
John L. Sullivan was the Last bare Knuckled Boxing champion and first gloved champion, b4 there was any gloved boxing it was just bare knuckled.
G3ner0 2 years ago
LOL no. If you watch the old films from the fights back then, the bare knuckle fighters didn't fight every minute of those 75 rounds. There'd be whole rounds of nothing but stalking and circling and waiting for the other guy to attack. Very boring by today's standards. Still took a great deal of endurance though, but its not the big accomplishment that it appears to be on paper.
Yrkoonz 2 years ago 3
wtf so many rounds? how didn't they die from exhaustion lol them must get like 10 minutes break every round lol or ythey had the best stamina back then
Automatic25 2 years ago
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I think the era accelerated when Dempsey and Tunney came into the fold. Those were the best heavyweights back then not some shitty over 240lbs slow ass who im seeing now guys like Norton, Ali, Frazier, Foreman and many others
Automatic25 2 years ago
Great post, Thanks!
wayneBedfre 2 years ago
cheers mate, keep posting plz :)
ROCKYMARCIANOXX0 2 years ago
75 rounds talk about cardio
jrhersh80 2 years ago
And if the fight went less than 70 rounds, they gave you your nickel back!
bigpoopie69 2 years ago 13
excellent. lol someone filming a pirate copy of a fight a 100 years ago.
wiggazworldtv 2 years ago 3
wtf round 75?
whiteb0xer 3 years ago 3
Hahaha! Yeah, I have a tough time with 3 rounds!
-Arroyo-
arroyomusic 2 years ago
Thats exactly the words to come out of my mouth WTFF... That's back in the days of real men!
sammychabert 2 years ago
Tremendous! Look forward to the rest of the series. Thanks!!
madmax8903 3 years ago
Lol So funny when the guys all lets watch that in slow motion but its only like 5fps. Thanks alot for the video tho..
FLCLimax7 3 years ago
Awsome video!!!!
Djclueless1 3 years ago 2
Thanks for this!!!
Jeet27 3 years ago