Amnesty International - Death to the Death Penalty

[antiglbtMAN]

This video sucked. Will one of you retards explain why we should let sick criminals live? You people need to open your eyes to reality. An eye for an eye! If they stab someone and cut up their body then thats how they should die

[CrazyRidgeBallas]

14 of the worlds dictators dislked this video.

This is incredible.

[Chablis1966]

Kill The Death Penalty Not People.

[Henriiiiiiii]

realflow.!

[xperiapauline]

This was really good!

[trancesendable]

, why, theres too many humans, less humans, better life for everyone :D

[beardyman100]

@trancesendable k we'll get rid of you first then troll.

[icandriveasandwhich]

this made me cry.

[guiltymind90]

Google Ontario appeal court hears landmark case on infanticide laws ( an excerpt) :The potentially precedent setting case is the first time that an appellate level court in Canada has been asked to interpret the infanticide provisions in the Criminal Code. LB smothered an infant son in 1998 when she was 17 and then killed another son in the same fashion, four years later. Poeple like you have blood of this baby on your hand .So don't BS me that punishments does not matter.

[reddevil312612]

@guiltymind90 What you fail to see is how many people suffer the death penalty. Not all criminals who are pardoned repeat the offense again. I'm not willing to let 17000 criminals die to save an innocent life whose death could not have possibly been foreseen. Human life is human life. Just because someone committed a crime doesn't mean they deserve to lose their life. And, please, don't tell me I have the baby's blood on my hands, when you have 17000 people's blood on yours.

[guiltymind90]

@reddevil312612

I think you should have read my post more closely. I did not accuse people who oposse capital punishment in any way of causing death of this child. My comment was directed at people (m1trekker in particular) who are in favour of infanticde provision in criminal law.Like the one in Uk or Canada.

[reddevil312612]

@guiltymind90 My apologies, I misinterpreted you. Thought you were referring to capital punishment since that what the video was about. ^^

[guiltymind90]

I have question for amnesty international symphatizers : Which legal system protects human rights better. Singaporian which carries mandatory death penalty for murder of child ( for all kinds of murder actually) or British which punishes women who murdered their children under 1 year of age with community service.You protest first but not the second.Where are you priorities ladies and gentleman ,Life of child murderer is more important to you then life of the child.Shame on you.

[WillShakespeare2007]

@guiltymind90 - Do you want to give me an example of this? As if it has happened there must have been some very strange circumstances because murder should be life in prison which is a mandatory 25 years under British law.

[guiltymind90]

@WillShakespeare2007

By no means it was unusaul situtation .Most common " punishment " in UK for murder of child by his/her mother( that's important ) who did not make into her/his 1st birthday is probation.It's a result of so called infanticide act which is legally binding document in England, Wales and Northern Irealand.But not in Scotland apparently as case of Ineta Dzinguviene ( who was given life time imprisonment witch chance of parole after 15 years) shows.

[WillShakespeare2007]

@guiltymind90 - I did ask if you would give me an example. As you now claim this is common I would ask you offer three examples or a link where these examples are as I am totally unaware of this. I am not saying you are lying (yet) but I am asking that you back up this bizarre claim.

[guiltymind90]

@WillShakespeare2007

Google

Probation for mother who killed baby in blaze

Judge shows mercy to Wakefield baby-killer mum

Young mother who killed her two babies gets three years probation

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 Any person who kills their own child is most likely mentally ill. It is a poor society that puts the mentally ill to death. To answer your question, the British system is better than the Singaporean system. Singapore is the British colonial system. Britain has evolved from that.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

So you are more ok with killing baby than with killing child murderer I think you are mentally ill.I thnk we should protect most vulnerable members of society,. You prefer protecting most revolting members of our society.IF You are ok with community service as punishment for murder of a baby as you seam to be, would you be also content with no jail time for terminatig life of the child killer ?I guess no , we have to keep some standard!!

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 I oppose killing in any form. It is the reason why, in Britain that we have a social care system that monitors the mentally ill to ensure the child is totally protected, including removal from the mother if need be. The world is not full of mass murderers, it is very rare and not something the state should lower itself to just in order to enact revenge, which is what the death penalty really is about.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

You have to admit thet Peter Conelly has been given quite a protection? I do not think that issue of death penalty is core of our disgreement.What I am objecting to is the idea that child younger than one year of age is demoted from legal protection if his killer was his biological mother.It carries lesser sentence of infanticde which usally does not result in any jail time .However,murder of the child older than that would result in mandatory life sentence .

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 Baby P should have been removed from his mother, that is a failing by the doctor who examined him and Haringey social services. Baby P should have been saved from the environment he was in. Those guilty of his death faced justice, the finger points directly at them and society knows it - that is justice. Applying the death penalty to them will serve no purpose. If they are deemed a threat to society they should never be released.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

I think we are talking cross purposes.I am not saying that UK should restore death penalty . I asked why Uk law degrade children under the age of one to the status of the sunbhumans and no one from so called human right groups makes anything of it.British courts treat infanticidal mothers in similiar manner as Islamic courts treat people convicted of honor killing.It's a result of a presupposition that is often unstated namely that child is disposable property of his mother.

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 I don't think you understand British society very well. I doubt if there is any society that would degrade children under 1 as you say, they are the future of the country. Children are treated exceptionally well in the UK. Britain does not put children to death as happens in Iran lets put it that way. As for honour killing, any muslim committing this in the UK will be brought to justice for the offence of murder. It is not accepted in this culture.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

The Infanticide Act 1938 permited infanticde ( murder of the child under the age of one by his biological mother who was in " disturbed state of mind" as a result of giving birth or lactation, which is junk science , by the way) as partial defense for murder.Most women who commited such crimes have been given probation.Of course it degrades value of a child's life beacuse "disturbed state of mind" would not be recognized as valid mitigating factor for murder of anybody else.

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 It is not normal to kill your child, it is abnormal and only undertaken by those who are mentally deranged. That is what the act says, it came after women were put to death in Britain because they were in a disturbed mental state following birth. What kind of country kills mental people, they should be in hospital. If there were the death penalty in the UK people like Angela Cannings would have been put to death because of that clown Prof Sir Roy Meadows with his barmy theories.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker it's not normal in the sense that most people would recognize it as moral violation.That does not mean everybody who commits infanticde would qualify as insane .Women may find child hindrence to her clubbing lifestyle (Casey Anthony) use as a means of hurting husband they resent ( up to 24 % acording to study done by Resnick). We dont give free pass to women who were in disturbed mental state and kill a stranger so we should no give it in this case, either.Why on earth we should ?

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 Not everyone who commits infanticide is insane, true. But the Infanticide Act does not apply to all cases of infanticide, only those with a disturbed mental state.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

The only women charged with murder Angela Cannings and Sally Clark , beacuse they did not admit( which is necessary component to charge them with infanticde rather than murder) to the crimes they were acussed of . Find one case when woman in UK excluding Scotland admitted to killing of her infant child and wasconvicted of murder, shouldn't be to diffilcut.Disturbed mental state was designed to cover wider variety of mental states than insanity . Namely , all of them.

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 I don't see your point. It doesn't happen that people think "Oh we have an Infanticide Act" lets go out and kill the kids. The act is clearly there to address the sad situation were a mother kills her child in a deranged state. A mother can still end up being charged with murder to answer your question, as in the case of Chaha'Oh-Niyol Kai-Whitewind.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

Uk has already insanity defense avialable.There should be no infaticde provision to begin with.I think every mother who commited this crime and failed to prove insanity before the court of law should be convicted of murder.It's that simple.IA was designed to get free out of jail card to women who would not qualify as insane.

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 Thet 1938 act was passed when the UK was still putting mothers to death for the death of a young one, it was realised that the death penalty was being passed on people who are clearly deranged - pretty sad, all around, hence the act. Yes some judges argue that now we don't have the death penalty it is largely redundant. I say again, people don't commit criminal acts just because the law says they shouldn't or because there are exemptions, which appears to be your argument.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

I did not realised that that death of a young one was capital offense , you must' have meant murder.It may be the fact that English is my second language but I am not sure that I understand the grammar of your last sentence.I've got a question for you, are you an utilitarian ?And You are not realy agiainst t murder of a child before his first birthday so you use this " derenged mental states" as some bullshit excuse ?

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 I think it is well understood that the threat of the death penalty is no deterent as proven by countless statistics. Likewise, the presence of an infantice act will not provide an incentive to commit infanticide. Thankfully this is a very rare phenomenon.

[guiltymind90]

@m1trekker

Farmer gets life sentence for killing burglar. Probation for mother who killed baby in blazeI.Criminal Law in the Uk was designed by people withemental disorder. What would you think opf following provision in criminal code : Infanticidal mother termination act ( probation for father who kills his partner if he was in disturbed state of mind as a result of her act).

[m1trekker]

@guiltymind90 I don't think you read my last post. No criminal code has ever stopped crime and it never will. Look at the murder rate in Mississippi or Alabama with the death penalty. No deterrent at all. The best you can do is deal with the consequences of crime and attempt to make a better society so that crime is reduced. Do you think there is no infanticide in Iran ?

[WillShakespeare2007]

@guiltymind90 - I stand corrected. I still think this is rare but I think these sentences are absolutely disgusting. To be honest I am in shock. One of these cases actually happened in my home town but I do not live there anymore. I totally agree with you that these women should have got life in jail. The one that killed two children should have left prison in a box. If she is seriously mentally ill then she should be placed in a secure mental hospital for the remainder of her life.

[aboalatrak]

Death to the jail penalty ! .. +10 Years !!!

[kunkaraisy]

Isn't fair to take the life of someone who already took a someone else's life, a someone who *killed* someone else?

[MuathMuhammad]

We do not do it cause we got the idea from our heads (e.g. electrical chair), we do it cause god told us.. this is not considered as penalty in our religion, it considered as "Cleansing" from his sin then god will judge him.

[imajed1]

so he raped my wife and killed her .. and he should be jailed only !!

living his life in jail,eat,drink,workout,have chitchat with his friend in the jail

and if he behave  he will be free after 25 years !

[dancthegr]

strange that America is one of the only western world countries to still have the death penalty

[brianshan1]

If someone is unfit to live in society (a serial killer) why should we support them to live in prison. While I don't have a problem with executing criminals who endanger innocent people I think the death penalty is useless. It doesnt deter people and isnt cheaper than life in prison. I think it would be better for all criminals to be put into labour camps so they may be productive in society. But I guess AI would be against that too.

[MrTomvp95]

The hardest person to live with is yourself, when you carry an burden for you life, life becomes to much to handle. That is a far worst punishment for murderers and rapists that death. Death is an escape from reality but life isn't.

[strapen2good]

Say 30,000 men rape and kill your family. Do you want to give half your income to keep them in prison? I didn't think so.

Those who do NOT believe in the death penalty, get together and pitch in your money to help keep them alive. I'm fine with that.

[wehavebiscuits]

@strapen2good

Excecution costs more than life-sentence without parole due to increased cost of legal procedures. Know what you're talking about.

The moment we systematically start treating people as animals we've lost an important part of our humanity, you cold heartless childish bitch

[strapen2good]

@wehavebiscuits - Don't be angry, just do the math. Hurts when you don't have a choice, ea?

[thisissparta789789]

Death to AI for opposing the Death Penalty. Those who oppose it will burn in hell.

[adg01010]

the killer has to be killed

[ragenFOX]

no

[shahir21]

That what u think, there are even more people that want the death penalty then people like u who haven't felt the loss or seen and known someone who deserves the death penalty, tell it to the parents of the children who were raped and brutaly murderd, tell it to the sons that had there parents cold bloodedly murderd and so on, we need the death penalty, and eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and lifer for life

[oldstock1607]

recently, a black drifter came through my town, broke into a house, anally raped a six year-old girl, and then caved her head in with a hammer. After robbing the place he was at large for 6 days. I want him to die for what he did. How can anyone who has done such things ever be a member of society? they CAN'T. Why force taxpayers to support the life of this fiend for another 45 years? How dare you even ask.

[apresesco]

People, there are really sadistic psychopaths with no solution.

[sumanbasu]

and why would I pay tax to sustain someone like Ajmal Amir Kasav who was walking around on the streets of Mumbai on 26/11/2008 and spraying bullets on whoever he could see??

and what happens when his buddies hijack an aircraft and demand his release??

[Pvjinflight]

Death to Amnesty International. Death penalty is only good punishment for some very bad people like murdereds, unlike in my "civilized" country Finland where law system is so fucked up that murdereds and pedophiles get out from jail just after few years and do more bad after it.

And Amnesty supports this. Amnesty is full of bad people who want world to be paradise of criminals. They care ONLY about criminal, not victims.

[Trottellumme123]

@Pvjinflight That's nonsense. Death penalty does not prevent crimes. There is research which proves that.

Just look at the USA and be glad that you live in Finland.

[Pvjinflight]

@Trottellumme123 Well at least its better than letting those murdereds out from jail after few years like in here Finland. Dead criminal can not commit more crimes, living one can and most probably will.

[apresesco]

@Trottellumme123 Colombia has no death penalty ( Constitution of Colombia; Article 11 states: "The right to life is inviolable. There shall be no death penalty") and is more violent than the U.S., so the things are relative. And the death penalty is not just about preventing future crimes... but about revenge

[irishgodfatherchris]

@Pvjinflight then thats a failure of the justice system reinstating the death penalty won't remedy that

[Kakirachan]

Song reminds me of "The Scientist" - Coldplay.

[yurukov]

This video was posted by the Bulgarian foreign minister on his Facebook page.

[DJSauloLanderos]

well thats my opinion, better forced labor than capital punishment. Use them instead of getting rid of them.

[fablan6]

As long as we don't know what's beyond life, we will never be sure wether the death penalty is a biger or smaller punishment than prison.

- Horis Telos

[sweet1hippo]

Statistics have shown that young black males are more likely to receive the death sentence than any other race, gender, and age group. I think that having to live the rest of their years rotting in a cell is worse than dying quick and painlessly.

[killtwothis]

anyone know what the song is from this video????????

[Viralmente]

@killtwothis Carly Comando - "Everyday"

[killtwothis]

thaaaaaaannkkkk youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu : )@Viralmente

[Viralmente]

@killtwothis ;D

[bthedirtydog]

Hey-Anti DP Crowd. Suggestion. Focus your efforts on ending the barbaric acts of thugs. This will go further to minimize the use of the DP than bullshit slogans or infomercials. Amnesty can PISS OFF. Americans will decide if Americans want the DP. Not your fucked organization. Go tell it to someone who gives a shit. Doubt other countries will listen to your ass either. Don't give a shit about deterrence or cost. DP=Justice. Justice is priceless. THANK YOU TO TEXAS. STICK TO YOUR GUNS.

[sweet1hippo]

@bthedirtydog

i get your point, but I think rotting in prison for the rest of their lives, surrounded by hateful eyes is worse than getting a quick little shot, or shock.

[WushuPenguin]

I respect every man/woman's right to live. However if they do not respect the right to live in others, why are they extended such hospitality? If everyone agrees not to murder, except for one person, why is he/she a part of this society?

[bonecrusherRhyd12]

great carry on amnesty (im part of the group at my school (the rgs))

[theporksicle]

I had respect for Amnesty International, although I'm pro death penalty, because I thought they were genuinely trying to do good in the world and that they genuinely believed in what they said. I'm since found out that they are politically motivated, if they don't sympathise with your politics they don't care whether your human rights are violated.

[MaxRenn]

Amnesty International.

More VERMIN to defend the death of

BABY P.

SICKENING.

[PunkAttitude8V]

Amnesty International=serial killer's best friend

[DJSauloLanderos]

Stop death penalty! How does people think that is right, how can this still be applied in this "civilized" societys.

[Cosmo1093]

@DJSauloLanderos What are the other options?

-"Rehabilitating" the convicted felons in prison and releasing them 25 years later? The idea of prisons "rehabilitating" is a myth. In reality, prisons harden criminals. (Ever heard of the "revolving door to prison"?)

-Giving murderers life sentences without parole? That's nothing more than an extended death penalty which may take longer or be more painful for the convicted (if you want "humane").

What exactly is wrong about the death penalty?

[DJSauloLanderos]

@Cosmo1093

Well, those that are prisioners.. we could make them productive for the state, instead of being a cost, theyll produce with work, what is used for their needs such as food and all that.. and also produce a plus for the state, otherwise if you kill them then what? thats so unproductive, and of course theres no moral if you judge people even if they were assasins or something like that you dont have tha rights to judge and kill them.

[Cosmo1093]

@DJSauloLanderos People sued Alabama for reintroducing "chain gangs" (prisoners chained together at the ankles, working). Human rights groups are even getting pissy about Maricopa County, Arizona's voluntary chain gangs..and that's voluntary! Honestly, I think forced labor would meet more opposition than capital punishment..

So you believe that those who deprive another of their right to life (through murder) should retain theirs? Taking that right from another is like forfeiting your own.

[Cosmo1093]

@DJSauloLanderos Also with penal labor...think about the tools that will need to be provided to the laborers.. I don't know about you, but I don't think its a very smart idea to be giving sharp, metallic objects to convicted murderers...things like shovels, pickaxes, scissors, any kind of blade, needles, or sledgehammers.. Something bad is bound to happen.

I mean, optional penal labor would clearly work in minimum or medium security prisons, but forced penal labor with convicted murderers......

[likitty20]

that electric chair candle was pretty cool

[thraser91]

metallica -ride the lightning

"Who made you God to say i'll take your life from you"

[vybyvy]

"Only god has the right to take someones life..."

in the name of what do you think there is death penalty ?

it's because of bullshit like this that there is war on earth... f**king believers

[numberultimate]

@vybyvy amen

[jobenaw]

@vybyvy It is G-d, not god.....

[nianiaroukos]

@vybyvy death penalty exists because human exists... as long as there is the human kind there will be deaths... But in my religion you dont have to kill someone or suicide... So thats why i say that only God has the right to take someones life not because he wants or has to...

[shachar10]

@vybyvy & what about someone who killed many? Who give him any right? What his penulty?

[ragenFOX]

@vybyvy its in the name of justice.

[spartan239]

@vybyvy This video doesn't have anything to do with religion. It illustrates the subjection of human life that goes with capital punishment.

[wehavebiscuits]

@spartan239

And capital punishment has alot to do with religion.

Stop apologizing for your own religion. Stop telling youself it's true, it's a fucking man walking on water and another man cramming 20 million animals into a single fucking boat

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits Since you seem to be against religion, why are you so worried about our government ridding their society of serial rapists and murderers, if anything that's saving humanity b/c they're preventing those psychos from harming anyone else. And what does capital punishment have to do with religion? You even said that it costs more to execute than it is to support. People obviously dont care how much costs to kill a criminal, they just dont want to support a criminal, I know I dont.

[wehavebiscuits]

@Aliyahdiamond

Societycan be protected from further harm by criminals with a death-free justice system as well. The death penalty is definitely not there for protection.

You don't wanna support acriminal under any circumstance? If your cousin stole a TV and someone was eating him alive, you wouldn't try to help him since he's a criminal?

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits Woah, Im going to have to say that that scenario was ridiculous. Getting a shot that puts you to sleep and getting eaten alive are two different things, i think you know that. The purpose of our gov. is to protect and secure its society,separate all who jeopardize the stability of that society, and give them a punishment that's proportional to their crime. It's always been that way. Whether or not you like the 'eye for an eye' doctrine is your problem, but its in the Constitution

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits And if the death penalty isnt there for protection, what is it there for? And I'm not talking about the type of criminal that would steal a TV. The death penalty doesnt even apply to them so i dont even know why you brought that up. The fact that you want to pay for a killer to wash his clothes and watch TV is fine, that's your money, you do what you want with it. But since you want to achieve justice so bad--

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits why dont you ask yourself if its "just" to make the families of the victims, and even citizens who want absolutely nothing to do with committees of heinous crimes, to pay to support the lives of those criminals when they dont want to nor should they have to. Because after all, they're the ones who got themselves into that situation in the first, but since they got caught, WE have to help them get their shit together and pay for them to live in prison. How is that fair to me?

[wehavebiscuits]

@Aliyahdiamond

I'll ask you again, if your cousin stole a TV and someone was eating him alive, you wouldn't try to help him since he's a criminal?

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits I dont need to answer that dumb question, that has nothing to do with what the fuck we're talking about. Are you stupid? Did you read anything I said. Why are you trying to compare a TV thief getting eaten alive to the death penalty? That is retarded. But I'll answer your question, I would help anyone who was getting eaten alive b/c no one deserves to die like that, but that compared to getting a shot is a bit of overkill. Lethal injection is absolutely painless

[Aliyahdiamond]

@wehavebiscuits It's nothing compared to being eaten alive. Now, if my cousin would've been a serial killer or serial rapist, you know, shit that will ACTUALLY put him on death row, I would spare him that horrible death and just hand him over to the authorities so they can give him a proportional punishment for his crime. If he killed someone, and that proportional punishment is death by lethal injection, so be it. So now that Im done with that nonsense, why dont you answer my questions.

[vybyvy]

"Only god has the right to take someones life..."

in the name of what do you think there is death penalty ?

it's because of bullshit like this that there is war on earth... f**king believers

great video and great message !

[futurextako]

nice!

[iaberis]

I'm for death penalty, some people just don't deserve to live

[nianiaroukos]

@iaberis you are not the one who will judge that...

[Clorwall]

@iaberis Those people don't deserve to live, probably because they thought like you about other people.

[nianiaroukos]

Only god has the right to take someones life... We humans are not and we will never be the ones that will judge anyones life... thumbs up if you agree...

[rachels177]

@nianiaroukos God doesn't exist, dumbass. Enjoy your fairytales.

[darkroronoa]

@rachels177 you understand that god is a symbolic person and he means that only if someone is powerfull as a god can judge and take life?

For me,no human no god should take someones life

[nianiaroukos]

@darkroronoa My friend in my relegion god gives life and if you take someones life or even suicide you are commiting a sin

[nianiaroukos]

@rachels177 You can believe anything you want because its your right... But you cant insult others for their religion...

[rougeliter]

@nianiaroukos rachels177 can, in fact, insult anyone's religion (at least in the United States). People have been killing in the name of god for millennia, and as far as I'm concerned, that's a decent enough reason to knock religion down a couple pegs.

[nianiaroukos]

@rougeliter With your reality we can insult anyone for anything... Lets say that someones mother took a wrong decision... That gives us the right to insult him and her? People have killed others for many reasons... Your religion doesnt make your charakter... I mean muslims are very fanatics about their religion and killed many in the name of it... Should we kill them too? Im sorry but the image of United States in Europe isnt the best. You might kill each other for 15 bucks not for your religion

[jobenaw]

@nianiaroukos It is G-d, not god.....

[Woka53]

Amazing video.

(first?)