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  • 2:46 bad ass bitch....

  • FINALLY WE HAVE A PEACEFULL AFRICAN COUNTRY WITH A GREAT CHRISTIAN ARMY

  • KENKYA WILL WIN

  • Is that a ww2 vintage daimler ac?

  • fucking muslim fanatics why do they wanna destroy everything ?, im sure God wants peace no fighting

    fanatic muslims are serving SATAN

    go Kenya !!!!!!!!

  • Somalis should wake up, and surpport all the foreign forces fighting the Alshabab thugs, distabalising the whole region. I believe there are so many somali refugees all over the world, and there are some learnt ones, shake those thugs, pirates, terrorists out of somali instead of surpporting them and yet you ran away from there so many years ago. Come out and make yo country peaceful,lovely. Somali is so good if there's stability. Look at all the beaches, its all money. Yo people are starving .

  • You will be killed like flies exactly like the AU sioldiers from burundi and uganda and ethiopians, you should learn from other people's mistakes that U DONT MESS WITH SOMALIS POINT BLANK WHO INVETED THE HOMEMADE ARMS TRUCK WITH AN ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN MONTED ON THE BACK, SOMALIS AFTER THE US BURN ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENTS WEAPON WE CAME UP WITH THAT NOW LOOK MOST REBELS IN THE WORLD USE IT AND IT IS VERY EFECTIVE, POINT IS IT DOE'SENT MATTER IF U GOT THE WAPONS THAT AMERICA GAVE U SOMALIS HAVE HEART

  • @MrWarya91 whats wrong with you,its ignorance like yours that have somalis in the mess its in,they are fighting a terrorist organization that's crippling the country not somalian civillians who have been allowed refuge into Kenya as Africans citizens.. you should instead show support for africans who are finally doing something to help a neighbouring country deal with its mess..

  • @MrWarya91 LOL You fucking idiot That came from lebabon not Somalia

  • haha go kenya ooh we scared listen this is hell coming towards u guys, I hate al-shabaab but they will kick your monkeys asses drag u on the streets like SOMALIS did to the american ranger soldiers what the fuck do u think y'all can do, you cant touch somalis,haha somalis are the smartest bravest and stongest of all Africans we are true entrepreneurs we run Kenya without somalis in Nairobi your econnomy would still be shit haha we made eastleigh the economic center it is today! haha Kenya=Joke

  • @MrWarya91 dont be so ignorant,why havent you done that for your country, if your really the smartest and the strongest as you claim,kenya was okay without somalis in eastleigh,but look at it now,its became a shithole,with running sewer,flying garbage, a wash with imported guns ,money laundering,pirate money thats actually more crippling than benefitial as it creates a false sense of economic growth.. show some respect to kenyans who are accomodating you gus as african..

  • @narucraze1 ohh yeah bombing cities and killing innocent people is real heroic right haha nobody and I mean Nobody wants to see a united strong Somalia! We was the Second strongest nation in africa, that can happen again if we find unity, listen they way your government wants to bring peace isnt going to bring it pal, sorry. I love Kenya and kenyans, but I hate seeing my people suffering and other countries taking advatage of mine! that's not a way to find peace!

  • @MrWarya91 lol kneya stands nothing to gain from this,they are letting in refugees that alshabab want to detain and have them satrved,they are sending in their troops to die for you country,alshabab are no good for somalia dont you get this,we don care about your history we are looking at the present, i really hope somali gov,au & kenyan troops defeat the alshaba once al for all so thta somali can resume its past endevours :)

  • @MrWarya91 how can you love kenya, when they're destroying  your country for no reason!

  • Those thinking that American and Ethiopian experiences matter, need to take a fresher look at the Kenyan incursion. Question; who are fighting alongside the Kenyans? Kenya unlike the others, means a lot to the Somalis. Kenyans are no fools. Somali Kenyans are no fools either.

  • kenya kenya leave those somalian alone it didn't work for usa uganda and ethiopia you will humilated like the rest of them good luck puppets kenya.

  • kenyans need to start protesting against the war. you will never bring peace to somalia this way. this war will stain your image and you will go home like the ethiopians broke with thousands of men dead.

  • THE AL SHABAAB ARE SO OVERATED. THIS TIME ROUND THE SLEEPING LION HAS AWOKEN ON YOU.

  • @mrukwelimtupu kkk sleeping lion, I do not understand why kenya is doing this clear agression, may be you just want to train your soldiers for war. these somali people may are not equiped well with modern weapons as we somalis have no government for long time, but believe me they can fight and are fierceless no somali wishes to fight with kenyans as we never had wars and somali pple like the kenyan but if this war goes on kenya will be sucked in the somali war and your youth will become alshabab

  • KENYA, I LOVE YOU. PEACE WILL PREVAIL IN KENYA. BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY.

  • women in the frontlines? seriously? No disrespect, but even the US doesn't let women serve in the front lines....driving a tank and maning a machine gun? wow, this is how U lose he war, they still think it's a joke...maybe after some bodies pile up, then Kenyan defense forces will get SERIOUS!!!!!

  • @Mikemonga Stop being ignorant! We are at war, these female soldiers are fighting for us. We Kenyans are very proud of our men and women in uniform. This is real, your comments are extremely juvenile, ignorant and disrespectful. Grow up dude!!

  • i'm just keeping it real, of these soldiers bribed their way to the army, there are some professionals but most still dont know what war is. second, i am fully supporting Kenya's effort, but Kenya is not prepared for whats coming. the middle east wars are windind down, US is pulling from Iraq, Libya is over, Osama is dead, militants need to show an example, im sorry to say but Kenya will be like Israel(and they are the shit), bombings will rock the country to it's knees

  • @Mikemonga You are such an Idiot si uende ukae US....instead of supporting your country you are asking for bodies to pile up. I certainly think we should always think before we type anyting.. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS (MEN & WOMEN) AND BRING THEM HOME WARRIORS AND SAFELY!!!

  • Whos the Hottie @ 2:53? Mrembo Sana! Jina Langu ni Daudi Wewe? AM serious btw!

  • Whos the Hottie @ 2:53? Mrembo Sana! Jina Langu ni Daudi Wewe? LOL

  • naomba mungu alshabab washindwee kenya endeleni we will win inshallah

  • Alshabab may fuck with us in Uganda but kenyans dont joke.

  • @WhitePride88k wtf dumb ass fool, this is an anti terrorist operation. Whites kill whites with millions of casualty

  • @WhitePride88k STFU..how did u find this channel anyways?

  • Kenya should do what is Israel does, when someone bothers you give them a thorough beating they'll feel for generations...remember 2006, heezbollah aint talking shit no more

  • @MTOTOwaNYAYO Kenya doesn't have Amerixa to protect them

  • @Hajeh22 true but their military is stronger than Ethiopia but not as large

  • @Abdikarimelmi As you'd imagine, Kenya spends more on Military then Ethiopia. And its richer with less than half the population.

  • @Hajeh22 WHAT, ETHIOPIA IS FAMOUS FOR SPENDING IT'S BUGET ON IT'S MILITARY. why do think so many of it's people starve. Kenya just made professionalization of it' army unlike Ethiopia

  • @Abdikarimelmi Yes, but Kenya spends over $600 million on Military, 1.1% of GDP. Ethiopia spends $450 million on military, 2.4% of GDP.

  • @WhitePride88k What the fuck are you doing on an African channel you fucking creature? Why dont you follow your leader and ice yourself fool. Eat a dick and die bitch

  • @WhitePride88k Whites have been killing whites for centuries...e.g. WW1,WW2 and more recently the war in Yugoslavia...well that's not new is it?

  • @vmutuma to add..mideaval england and romans killing gauls, celts and spaniards, the 100 yr war of roses,.....they have been killing man

  • @WhitePride88k who lied to you that white people are any special?Esp of the stone cold moron variety like your type,,,very illiterate ..always thinking they are owed something..always blaming others for their own foolishness..white ain't shit..never was

  • I have alot of respect for these men and women ready to defend their country unlike some of the cowardly faggots on this forum such as @whitepride88k.I admire the lady with the rifle...don't mess with her punks

  • I salute all the Kenyan soldiers willing to defend kenya.

  • Very good report its interesting to see these kinds of thing reported you dont see it much! Thanks for the info will be back to this channel soon!

  • @WhitePride88k Shut up bigot nobody wants to here your stupidity

  • Go Kenya! finally standing up for yourselves.

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  • Even Somalis know that Al Shabab is the bully,God help us.

  • time to kick ass kenya!!!!

  • go kenya! time to show the boys what men can do!

  • That's what Kenya Army are for,guard borders and protect our sovereinty.NOT INVADERS.

  • Some comments here e.g. @matayo71are verbal excreta. What happens after going to great lengths to avoid conflict, some1 keeps coming back & wanting to pick a fight? That's exactly what the Al Shabaab & some of our bellicose "neighbours" have been doing. Kenya did nothing initially & were called cowards. Now they are doing something & they are being labelled anything from useless to aggressors. Kenya has not gone into Somalia to (a) please anybody (b)look for love. We have a country to protect.

  • Kenya will not achieve anything by going into Somalia they will only boost support for Alshabaab. listen to Alshabaan radios and how they are now trying to get the support of Somali Citizens. May be Alshabaab hatched a plan to get by Somali people's support. Alshabaab was very strong during the war with Ethiopia and since Ethiopia withdraw forces they have been struggling Now Kenya is giving them power. Kenya is losing its head are getting themselves invovled war that is not theirs.

  • after defeat of USA army and ethiopian army, our battle hardened ugandan forces of general yoweri museveni went in mogadishu and spanked those boys so badly and they can never come back to cause chaos. i dont care if they now go and fuck up kenya as long as they don't come back to ugandan occupied land of somalia. we dont need them here anymore until we install our own puppet gov't and stop the killing of women and children unlike kenya only worried abt losing money from tourism industry.

  • Go Kenya,and also crooss border occupay and Librat Oromia and Addis Ababa from Ethiopia

  • I have a solution. Close all the borders and send 10 jet fighters in to Somalia. Problem solved.

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  • this is so funny,,,as a ugandan i find this laughable becoz kenyans know nothing abt fighting war and iam scared the al shabab may kick  your ass so badly and maybe follow you all the way to nairobi. just look at the soldiers , they all look like park rangers to me.

  • @matayo71 Now that you have said where you come from,what record does your army have against the Kenyan army or against any other army.Your comment is not okay in any way.

  • @matayo71 If you keep talking like that WE WILL KICK YOU ASS as well. Kenyan army is known world wide for its ''professionality'' and modern equipment. So STEP DOWN SOLDIER!!!

  • @matayo71 lol...I think ur comment is more laughable!! So what if they look like park rangers?? To me that sounds like a compliment....it seems that the Kenyan Park Rangers are well equipped to fight a war!! Maybe we shud send them to fight Kony too!!

  • Problem is ISLAM... Kenya should ban that filthy 5th Century shit-kicker's religion... and then throw all Somalis out... they're starving to death because they deserve that shit... they brought it upon themselves... out of their raw hate for anything that doesn't following that pedophile "prophet" Mohammed's teachings, they bombed the shit out of their own nation in past 30-40 years... and they won't return home and one day ask for an "Islamic State" in Kenya... FUCK ISLAM...

  • @TheEsotericDesi

    Somalis own Kenya, their money decides elections, no one can fuck with Somalis in Kenya you moron, even read the Daily Nation's article on it.

  • @Reqrezentin Cut the crap boy

  • @Brayo122

    The truth hurts.

  • @Reqrezentin somali and kenya brothers

  • @Abdikarimelmi they are. Somalia needs a stable country though.the violence going on there cannot continue.

  • @termanology85 it's threat to Africa's national security if it continues, foreign element infltried Somalia to make conflict worse

  • @termanology85 Today, Pakistani from the UK wanted to get recruited into Al satan, it's not just ethnic Somalis causing troubles

  • kenyan bitchs and none proffesional soldiers crossed our border but the question is what they will face ?? the answer is they will face a trained group and never get tire to fire face to face throught there enemy ..and remember somali's are ready for fighting any time any day any moment in there life till they get the right hand and we never care about diying or wounding

    NB...what ever it take we will fight back to them antill we show our personal deffend ....this is our game love it or hate it

  • @truesoldierful You Somalis are shit-eaters... Islam's ruined you... convert back to your true religions so you can prosper once again... and I'm not even a Kenyan... Just look at how bad ur nation is ever since it started following the filthiest religion...

  • @truesoldierful You need an education.

  • You know its very very easy... These IDIOTS cant even fly a plane. Just drop a few ordinances around. Annihilate them completely, close Dadaab camp and let SOMALIS BE TAKEN CARE OF THEM BY WHOEVER CARES IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY

  • Wow, looks like we are manning our border so well....that even female soldiers are on the very front of the line wow...KUDOS

  • This a pretense made up by the Kenyan government to invade and further destabalize the already unstable country of Somalia. There are a lot of bad things that the rebels of Somalia are capable of doing but they arent stupid enough to abduct an AID workers all the way inside Kenya....Continue...

  • @TheUsuallSuspect You really think if Kenya full inavded the country could be any worse off? the UN and AU have spent enough time and money trying to rebuild a country who's people seem to love the idea of playing vilains so I say BRING THE FUCKING RAIN, let Kenya bomb what it wants and defend it's boarders, as for your idea they're incapable of doing it, you are talking about the same somalians who a couple years back launched an attack on a Anti Piracy warship arn't you?

  • @TheUsuallSuspect What do you think is to gain from invading Somalia? It is a barren wasteland and a drain on our resources already...we feed and shelter your people yet this is how your people repay us? Deal with the consequences.

  • Me thinks its high time the MPs pay their taxes,ama we tuma them to the front line. After all,they are letting the country down while this brave men and women are willing to die for them!

  • Just for the government,,there are some Kalenjin militias so hungry to take on those Wariahs down, men,,cant wait until they ask for drafts then i can organize them..lol

  • Did anybody notice the rust on the lady's helmet....??? shame..it seems the somali forces have better guns.....Now i know why the GSU and Adm. Place do the work of military? The military's hardware belongs on the museum.....

  • @Gee114 I don't think it's ever been a problem for them I mean they're probably used to shooting at than being shot at and when you've got Tanks, Gunships and Fighters supporting you I would take off my armour and watch the fireworks, Bring the rain hehe

  • Well done men and women of the KDF.

  • @Jasubakende A company, 1st bn is still in somalia

  • Smart border security is the way to go. Let's invest in technology and also such other physical structures as walls. We gotta protect ourselves.

  • Lol. So Obama gave us his second hand Humvee's... Lol. He is our boy! Smoke them wariaeh's!

  • wtf??? KENYA ARMY VS. SOMALI GOONS SMH!!!! saitoti tafadhali tuma afande huko ndiyo iwafinye hao wakora vizuri.....

  • It is a SHAME and NOT a show of force...if anything it is a display of the effects of corruption.....The Kenyan military is seriously poorly equiped due to continued high level corruption that has wiped out funds meant for buying equipment....The APC carrier shown here is a 1950's model that belongs to the museum..the Hummers are old stock donated by the US...the troops have no armour on their bodies....

  • the somali 'army' or ex militia looks like shit compared to the better armed kenyan forces..hahahaha,,low IQ cushites

  • Stop these photo oppotunities in the border and go to war. The best defence is a good offence. Kenya army should bamboozle thier way into Somalia and look for these thugs known as ashabaab.

  • 1400 kilometer long border is not easy to secure. Good effort, but keep trying. Lay some land mines too. And I have to ask, whose idea was it to put women on the frontline? I'm not a chauvinist by any stretch of the imagination, but, seriously? It will not be pretty if captured by the enemy.

  • TAnk my friend. Tank war fare...Send hundreds. buy the russian ones.!

  • GOK should mobilize funds and train more soldiers.

  • all the money the gava budgets for defence ,our soldiers are carry the same guns thugs carry in Mtaa. I didn't expect them to carry anything less than M16 or beta.... I guess ya'll know there all the money goes at the expense of our National Security...Kibaki and his cronies the Anglo leasing shit ...Surely How can a whole Kenya Army Soldier carry a gun that resembles a G3! Can't wait to see Kibaki leave office !

  • @roughko Nothing wrong with the Guns...The G3 is superior gun. ....twice the price of AK47 and more powerful than M16...do your reseach on guns...it is used even by the US navy seals ..the Gun that actually Killed Osama Bin Laden...do your research...

  • @The777darkstar Dude, no offence ,but u can sing whatever u wrote above to birds in trees...am talkin about arming our soldiers with effective weapon , not expensive obsolete weapons in the mordern warfare. M 16 is a lethal triple shot burst,fittet with a scope etc, while G 3 is single shot burst ,heavy and a burden to troops. Another good rifle for our snipers would be the M 21 and M 40. These are just but a few of the mordern warfare weapons. Check Somali forces gat better guns that ya G3 pal

  • @The777darkstar g3 is the best

  • Yo!!!! Props to the Girl Soldier... The closing shot was off the connect!!!!! Hollaaaa....

  • Somali is not the enemy. This is Zionist Freemason propaganda at its best. Stop killing each others!

  • anyways all the best , although in my eyes you and the rais have lost my respect completely for letting this happen for so long.sad it had to take foreigners to get hurt or be kidnapped for the govt to act.shows the contempt politicians have for kenyans.yani kenyans are better protected under the auspices of france or brito than i govt?

  • @jamaatuu no discrimination, they are trained soldiers just as well. In the Air Force we even have a female combat piilot.

  • Hhehehe the TFG is once again lucky to have someone do their dirty work for them. Incompetent fools.

  • @ACKTAPUSS The military does not self deploy like you believe. It has to recieve marching orders from the MinDef for small sclae deployment, C-in-C/Parliament for large scale deployment over borders. That being said when thay deploy they have specific orders too, maybe for this they have been ordered not to go beyond 250 KM from the Kenya border while in Som AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES A SUCCESSFULL ARMY, its ability to follow orders. So don't bash the mlitary, understand how things are done. 

  • What took so long for the KDF to realize that they where needed to Deploy?i guess the luxury of shinning boots in the Barracks is over..

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  • i wonter the hummer 1 concums like 25lt per 100km now are they gonna enough gas out there?kama ya boat engine hakuna guys lay down before you gann hamm yourself ask the us army amout worias,go bacl send the warplane my brothers we love you dont wanna loose you coz of those rats use nuglear bomb.

  • @mufush What language are you typing in?

  • @nedatronics!!!brauchst du etwa brille zum lessen oder was?wann du so gut bis dann mach weiter

    Habarsch ecaso culo

  • Amkeni ndugu zetu

    Tufanye sote bidii

    Nasi tujitoe kwa nguvu

    Nchi yetu ya Kenya

    Tunayoipenda

    Tuwe tayari kuilinda

  • @mads: so why you so crazy with 'a career army'? it is a job...KAs troops recruited, trained n promoted on merit. Yes M7 is right...KA army is a career force because they're professionals...that is why M7 needs US marines to hunt Lord's Resistance leader coz he runs a rag tag army arrrrrrrrgh!

  • @siasabora hahaah how so naive, and you still think the marines are there coz of the LRA. well i was just trying to make a simple correction on your skewed stats, you wre the one saying that sadf is no1 not me.? the us marines are there for the same reason the british para have been in kenya for years on end in nanyuki.

  • @siasabora you know what i mean by saying a career army, or to make it more palatable, i mean its an army of the rich, the highest bidder gets in, through pesa ama political connections.

  • @mads: lets stay on the Al Shaabab menace story...SADF hiv status is not the issue!

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  • @wangaimugo: Leave these racist @ballrub alone! He is a hater and you cannot change people who think like him! What a shame that in this day and age, we have such morons still amoung us?! What about the white trash with their meth houses eeh? And the white gangstars wannabes, should we also send them to the frontline? You stupid TROLL!!!! Ignorance is not so bliss in 2011!

  • @siasabora; Thankz for the infor,i hear they are 100kms inside somali. God's speed guys.

  • I really hope that Kenya can handle their flow of illegals and terrorists. It's a large border, and borders in general can be hard to control, espescially in a frontier like that.

    Godspeed, boys.

  • the guns are not for modern army!The govt allocates billions for the army and they have guns like these??i wonder how many bullets it can fires before it start smoking .

  • @engineer14 The G3 is still in wide use by several militaries, including those of Mexico and Latvia, and they're used well. As for the armoured cars there, I'm not sure I can comment, but it would be much easier to pull across a vast area and attack militia than say a tank or larger APC. I do agree though- the weapons and armament should be upgraded in Kenya, secured tightly as well, with those rebels pouring in from the neighbours.

  • @engineer14 A company, 1st bn is still in somalia

  • go Army go....it is tough fighting cowards.

  • hahah haiya uyo dame anatetemeka??anyway probably ni relative ya mp fulani, stupid! dont put women in active combat roles are you crazy!!

  • @madscientistify : would you be interested to meet that officer...just you and her? it can be arranged. Yea then you can repeat what you just said? I already figured yu would not!

  • @siasabora LOL...! For those that haven't had a one-on-one with the KA,who only see them on TV during military parades,these guys don't play.I had my fare share of them during the 82 coup when i was in high school in Nairobi.

  • @thuraku army ya 82 is different na ya 2011, i know so, my dad was in the army then. today's one are cowards, watu wameingia jeshi na maconnections

  • @karuitha awa wote ni watoto na marela wa ma mp.this is just a feel good army

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  • @siasabora ati 2nd most disciplined army hahah those are ur own stats. haha ati sadf??haha sadf is a pale shadow of its former self, disipline is low, hiv has taken its toll on the recruits, 40% of the current sa military personell have hiv, the strong disciplined fighting regiments, mostly full of afrikaners left the army en masse after the end of apartheid, most of them aere now contracted mercenaries, you really need to get ur facts right.kenya army is a career army kama muse7ni alivyosema

  • @madscientistify by saying disciplined army they don't mean the moral ten commandments style discipline. They mean martial discipline in that this is an army that has firmly submitted itself to civilian governance and authority and no matter ehat it will never leave its barracks without orders from the civillian chain of command. Story ya Ukimwi i don't know where it comes from.

  • @siyu313 i was trying to disqualify siasaz argument that the south african defence forces arethe best in africa, and i dont understand the intent of your reply, coz i never at any point commented on the kenya army discipline

  • @siasabora hahahah ati what? actually i never saw this reply, so you really think that female officer is capable of doing a piledriver on a 230 pound muscular built man?there's a reason why women are not put in combat situations, i dont want to hear that a soldier died coz someonedidnt have the strength to carry a soldier to safety.

  • @mads: weight don't mean much in a fight....and in combat situation there are zero chances of hand to hand combat...this officer could be a paramedic, driver, logistics, MP (Military Police), EoD. But why don't just appreciate her? SMH..she has sacrificed to serve her country while you sit on behind a computer somewhere in a bunker.

    she is soldier, a warrior, a brave...salute her!

  • @siasabora i mean are you serious?? do you know that even the kenyan army has minimum weight and height requirements for recruits?you have to be kidding me, political correctness has no room whatsoever in the army.

  • @madscientistify they all look scared

  • mine half of that border, the other half uweke troops

  • this is a career army period!they have forever lost the respect i had for them and now i hold them in equal rank na politicians

  • SOMALIS,LOL MTAUZWA AND YOU WILL END UP PRISONERS,MSIWAAMINI.

  • it did seem like a PR stunt

  • Kibaki is Up, Wonder how long he will be Up?

  • we have plenty of worthless blacks from the U.S. we can send you. just send them into the frontline 1st so you don't lose any of your men.

  • @ballrub its comments like this that show people(well if u can call them that) level of thinking it happens in the real world unfortunately.

  • @wangaimugo yeah,i know. come and look how these people(if you can call them that) destroy our once beautiful inner cities. they make them look exactly look like africa

  • @ballrub: Stupid Racist!!

  • We have seen this many times, everytime something happens the media is hoodwinked to this PR exercises and when the cameras stop rolling, it is business as usual. So what is it that Al Shabab rag tags have that they can strike Kenya at will and with a lot of impunity?

    That Lady soldier cannot even scare a rat. If the enemy is 60 km away then these Kenyan soldiers should stop their PR stunt, stop talking and get the jets, choppers and trucks and as Bush jnr once said, SMOKE THEM OUT.

  • @karuitha

    Kenya should not get involved in foreign conflicts. And I don't recall Bush smoking anyone out. The only thing he achieved is increased hate to America all over the world.

  • @SturmMedik so we should just lie low n let al shabab attack us? we r being tested n ur saying that we should not get involved

  • @karuitha

    And why are they attacking you? Maybe because you are attacking them? Reporter in this video clearly states that Somalians were fighting amongst themselves in that battlefield and Kenyans intervened leading to al shababs defeat. I guess those al shababs fighters who survived will remember that next time...

  • Time to put this these boys to work. You are not a real soldier until someone has stopped one of your bullets and you've been in the trenches.

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