And this video is proof of why GM AXED the turbo Buicks...Because they were smacking GM's flagship car the Corvette.....BOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Turbo Buick 4 Life!!!
@magnesiumpearlrt This not proof why they were discontinued. The truth is GM wanted to introduce the new W body front wheel drive models. They discontinued the G body (Buick Regal and Pontiac Gran Prix in 1987 then the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme and Chevrolet Monte Carlo in 1988). GM is all about sales so if they could have kept the Buick they would have. They over ran production until December of 1987 which is very rare for a manufacture. They were making room for the new technology.
@walkerscranger Be that as it may...i like my theroy better...FWD sucks! Im not disagreeing with you, as I know the truth behind the Demise of the RWD G body...I just dont want to believe it!
@theraf8100 As powerful as the turbo 3.8 was, I agree that a turbo 3800 Series II or III would leave a turbo 3.8 like it was parked! With the cross-bolted steel main caps, roller valvetrain, and much better flowing heads, there would be no comparison. There are people who have even swapped out the original 3.8's from their TR's for the 3800's, so there's further proof of the 3800's potential.
If only I was rich. I'd find all the GNX's I could and build a nice garage to store them. I read to them each night, hug them and squeeze them and call them George.
And another side story.. Of course GM couldn't have a suped up regal outrunning it's flagship.. Why do you think they stopped production truly?.. A tech move to the "W" body sure.. But.. It just goes to show that this Buick was a great car for it's time and I wish to god they hadn't stopped making it.. And this is coming from a proud C4 vette owner!
Stupid asses that dont get it. That was a real GNX and a real Callaway Corvette. Yes the GNX smashed it repeatedly. With a better driver that GNX could have ponded it even harder. Look at the magazines from early 88. Same location idiots.
Man that last pass the GN sounded like a jet going for lift off gotta love it. Vids like this make me so happy I own one and understand why Corvette guys hate and respect me at the same time. Long live Detroit Muscle and McLaren they were a great team.
was this a gm corporate video? did they run it just to affirm their decision to kill GNX? Not being sarcastic. Would love to know story behind this video. Unless it's a Callaway video...the B2L or whatever it was called came out in '87, the same time as the GNX.
Torque figures on the GNX went up fast--from 250-270 in '82 to '300 in '84-85, 330 in '86, 345 in '87 and over 400 for the GNX.
@jaecht83 The decision was made in 1986 to end the rear wheel drive "G" body. Which included Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme ending in 1988, Pontica Grand Prix and the Buick Regal ending in 1987. It took two years to use up all the surplus of "G" body parts. That is why in 1987 there were over 20,000 turbo Regals. The decision to end them was because GM wanted to move forward with the front wheel drive "W" body vehicles. It was a technology move.
@7FP3 The decision was made in 1986 to end the rear wheel drive "G" body. Which included Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme ending in 1988, Pontica Grand Prix and the Buick Regal ending in 1987. It took two years to use up all the surplus of "G" body parts. That is why in 1987 there were over 20,000 turbo Regals. The decision to end them was because GM wanted to move forward with the front wheel drive "W" body vehicles. It was a technology move.
when u say callaway if you are talkn the sledgehammer, there is no way in hell stock it would even touch it. the normal vette, yea but whos to say that this gnx is stock ?
This clip appears to be from 1987 when GM compared the two Kings in Detroit, MI. It was a closed track affair. They were both stock, right out of the box.
@walkerscranger I believe you, but were you there? What's the back story on this? there are so many prototypes not released to the public. I've seen a Reatta prototype with the GN 3.8, as well as a Riviera 3.8 GN and also a 307 Electra Wagon with mods. They're in old scans of '88-89-era Popular Mechanics.
@jaecht83 I was a technician at a Buick dealership 85-88 and the Buick Rep had this vehicle. He stated that Buick wanted to see if the modded Grand National could out run the Corvette. After the comparison an article was release that the Buick could out run the Corvette. Buick wanted to go out with a bang so they moved to include an outside company (McClaren) to make the Grand National more responsive and faster. They succeeded and no American produced vehicle that year could out run it.
Read about these cars man, it's the GNX. They were modified by ASC McClaren (547 to be exact) and came out of the factory with 300HP. Which by 1987 standards was a lot, more than the Corvette, which is a major no no for GM. It was the last year for the Grand National, which was rated at 245hp for this year. The GNX was rated at 276 hp but car and driver found it to be more like 300. I also believe it ran a 13.5s 1/4 mile, factory. The GN would also beat a vette in the 1/4 this year, stock, fact
The GN was also faster than the Ferrari Testarossa in the 1.4. the GNX was in Countach terrtory.
But you have to take into consideration that callaways where quick and still quick to this day as well. I wouldn't discount the fact the GN would take out a stock L98 no problem but a callaway I would second guess.
@colefernandez47 actually, even in '87 the stock GN had 5 more HP than the Vette, which had 240. Vette got 245 in '88-90 and 250 in '91 before going to an LT1. Some versions had 240 in '88 and only 245 in '91. Depends on axle ratio and trim level. The '86 Vettes had 230 or 235, depending on aluminum heads or not.
Everyone i know that drags Grand Nationals all chunk that wimpy THM 200 for a 4L60/E. They can handle 1000 ft/lbs with minor mods.The 200 needs 5 grand put into it to handle any serious power which isnt really worth it.
i had a 700r 4 in my Syclone...they sucked.The 4L60E(revised 700r4,handled more power,electronic) i had put in worked a hell of alot better. The THM 200 is absolute garbage. the 200-4r is marginally better but theyre meant for the olds 307/Chev 305 moderate power outputs.Buick had to use em cause thats what the 3.8 bolts to.The 200-4r in the 84 Hurst/Olds failed all the time.The police 200-4rs all failed too.They just cant handle severe duty well.
sweet i saw a 1987 gnx #415 of #539 with 678 miles for sale on autotrader for $129,000 i would settle for grand national of the same year bcuz thats the year I was born
The 200 r4 was a crappy transmission period!!! Especially when you put insane amounts of power to it.. Take it from me I had changed it 11 times.. As far as other facts I had a stock W4 t-type 3.8 sfi V6 87 model year it ran 14.1 Stock in hot weather The GNX ran 13.60's . These cars were amazing back in the day & knocked about 2 seconds off it's stock time with some bolt-on's
Yup, such a crappy trans that people have ran 10's in the 1/4 mile with them. Perhaps you should tell Art Carr that he's wasting his time with them/has been wasting his time on them.
You had a we-4 to? They are awsome cars. I miss mine. It ran 14 flat stock. My oldman and I added a new chip, ram air and a few other little things. It ran low 13's. We bought it to EnglishTown for the mustand gn shoot out, it was alot of fun. 16,500 brand new! So much bang for the buck! He bought it in 87 I bought it from him in Highschool for 5 grand! We had one of only a few with the moon roof. In highschooI I used to eat up the kids with stangs!
actually it is a 200-4r and I would say it's far from a blemish...many consider it one of the best matched enigine/tranny combos, that is capable of low tens if beefed up, and then getting 20 plus mpg on the way home
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what a joke! callaway vet ? lol that was a plain 1984 corvette with crossfire injection only rated at like 220 hp stock and it still was only a few cars back. if that was a real callaway twinturbo vet the GNX would of had a sad day. the callaway was very distinctive looking from other vets my friend. I love the GNX but quit bein a poser sayin you kicked a callawy . a stock LT1 vet with a 6spd or LT1 anything would wipe its ass with a "stock " GN
@1Bad87T I am a vette owner but not in denial... I have the utmost respect for the almighty GN! 4000lbs and a box shape, and it can still whip those little 2500lb rice burners you see on the street today! IMHO it is a turbo'd car done right! Kudos to GM!
@pbee73 Whats interesting to me is how people in the same house disagree. GM makes both vehicles... whats the big deal. At the time the Grand National produced more HP and more low rpm torque than the Corvette. This meant a lot of sales. GM new this and push the produce up on the GN to over 20,000 turbo models through December. More than any previous year.
got alot of thumbs down on that comment, but its a correct comment, stock vette, anyone can tell, maybe, and yes that would have been a sad day for the buick if that vette would have won!!
It may have low HP numbers but the torque is much higher. Plus the car had good gearing to make it accelerate that fast. Alot of people dont understand that.
I just seen on some web site that the '87 GNX is a 13.5 second car. So the regular '87 GN must be a mid 14 sec. I do remember that the GNX was almost a second quicker than the base GN. I do love the GNX dash board which used analog guages instead of the digital readout on the GN's
@pbee73 The car didn't look that good on paper but you're right they were geared. low 1st gear , a 30% overdrive and 3.42 gears. Made for a GREAT all aroudn combination.....and the higher stall converter too.
GM's bailout should be to simply remake this car. They should remake all of their classic cars. That's their problem; other than the Corvette they have nothing of value. So why not buy a honda that is going to get 200k+ for sure? This car (and let's just say all the GN's from 86-87 as well) is a rare slice of engineering excellence at the very time its President, Roger Smith, that had the gall to close the very factories in which they were made. The GNX, a 547 gun salute to General Motors.
but with todays economy, and gas prices. nobody wants to buy a grand national to haul their family in. a minivan works fine. and for a daily commute to work would you rather have a hyundai with like 30 mpg or a corvette with like 15mpg. just take Dodge for example..viper...charger...challenger...yet their in the shitter farther then anyone. Hybrids are the way to go in my opinion
Don't hate because I got an education and a career. I feel no sympathy for someone who works at Wal-Mart and complains about gas prices. I hope they get up to $10 a gallon so people will stop driving so frivolously. Regardless, I picked up an 87 vette (because I actually like that body style) for 9k and I drive it to work almost daily. The price of gasoline is too trivial for me to care about. There, I hope that explains it for you.
you don't have a very good education then. Your the one that wants to ruin the ecosystem and waste all our fossil fuels because "i like the 87 vette body blah blah blah FUCK THAT!" your the reason future generations will suffer. because your ignorance and you have this attitude that your shit don't stink because "you don't care" alright yeah good argument....
Because I care about "future generations". Please learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before you make comments about my "ignorance". I could care less about the ecosystem, I'm not having children and when my time on earth is over the last thing I will care about is anyone else. Love me some me.
but when i first commented you it was because you said "GM's bailout should be to simply remake this car". No it's not. A bailout in a crashing economy when gas prices are sky high is not to make a gas guzzling muscle car. that's why GM can't make the camaro. Fucking dumbass. Read up on your times before you comment.
The Grand National got between 17-25 MPG. Not what I'd call gas guzzling. As far as gas prices being sky high, they've been under $2/gal consistently since last November or so. The 3.8L engine was ahead of its time in 1987 when Buick created a car faster than the Corvette (a major no-no for GM) and more fuel efficient as well. Considering that inflation rates have been hovering around 3% annually over the past fifteen years the current price of gasoline could hardly be considered "sky high".
Furthermore, your inability to understand that my suggestion to reproduce the 1987 GN and GNX was nothing more than a compliment to the finest motor vehicle ever produced by Buick either shows that you have autism and take everything literally, or you are the "fucking dumbass" here. The Grand National was the beginning of the end for GM as it signified the transition from RWD muscle to FWD garbage such as the chevy lumina and cavalier. No one has a '97 lumina in their car collection.
My commentary was merely a terse exaggeration of my disdain for General Motors in the last twenty-two years, in which, aside from the Corvette, Trans AM, Camaro SS and 94-96 Impala SS they have produced nothing that can be considered collector worthy. The Grand National and especially the 547 GNX's were really the end of an era as foreign automakers began to emerge as a major competitor in the U.S. market. GM has no one to blame but themselves for the sad state of affairs they are currently in
You're changing your story around now asshole. Before you said GM should make this car again (which would be one of the worst moves GM could make right now) and that the GNX was the last muscle car? Dodge Viper, Mercury Marauder, Pontiac GTO, Chevrolet Camaro. they're all car collection worthy AND we're all produced AFTER the GNX was discontinued. So your point is nullified. SO your saying it's GM's fault the economy is crashing? I don't think so bud.
i agree w/ u... wut needed 2b done was fire the designers and as well as the ceo. buick and olds still had potential w/ a remake of buick gnx( not this shitty one thats been debuted, a real one), and the olds 442 WITH A V8!... im so tired of these designers and engineers taking our american sports car icons and throwin' 6cyl's in them and glorifying it.
Apparentley you're a retard. Do some research before you start thowing classics like this under the bus. Maybe you should find out what's actually under the hood. Of course 442s are classic but this car is the last real American sports car produced.
@cronk16 mr. cronk16, i knew this car long before you knew how to spell regal.... i know exactly wuts under the hood. i was refering to the 2011 regal 4dr. w/ the weak ass turbo that suposed to satisfy gnx enthusists? dont think so. this 87 gnx is boss and will be for a long time and only a 2dr remake will honor this legend.
@jakebrake808 If you knew this car at all you would know that it was a damn good attempt from Buick to rival the GSX. It did and it bested it in most ways. What did Olds do? AND LOOK BACK! The 442 was nothing compared to the GSX.
The finest buick ever built was the 1992 Buick roadmaster 5.7 V8. Which was RWD if I recall. Sooo 5 years after GM made its transition to FWD full sized cars they make a RWD full sized car? You explain to me how that works.
So you'd rather drive a car that got 17 mpg (that's if you never raced it. Which i'm assuming anyone with that power would. Obviously) so it's more like 14-15 mpg give or take when gas is $2 a gallon. Or drive a more fuel efficient 27+ mpg car and save probably thousands of dollars a year depending on how much you drive.
The Viper and Marauder are made by Chrysler and Ford respectively. Not GM, which is who I am talking about. Second, the Grand National got 17mpg city and 25 mpg highway, and of course if you ran it hard it would get 15mpg, but it's a performance vehicle. That comment about the 92 roadmaster is hilarious. I'm sure if you did a poll more people would want a GNX, but that's just me. Once again, I don't need to save thousands of dollars, I don't care and I'm done arguing on the internet with you
And I didn't say GM was the reason the economy is "crashing" as you put it. I said GM is responsible for why they are in the position they are right now. The have produced shit for the past 20 years (corsica, cavalier, cobalt, HHR, lumina, sunbird, 6000, celebrity, beretta, grand am, etc..) And I acknowledged the few good cars they made, forgive me for forgetting the GTO, the only other car you offered up as an example. Toyota and Honda make superior vehicles now, GM is done for.
it wasnt there cars douche bag it was ignorant idiots that think they wont last like you i see more luminas and shit on the road than i do older toyotas although i do see a shit load of old accords on the road but that's besides the point the UAW killed gm and so did ignorant assholes that love the ugly powerless shit cars japan puts out ive owned jap cars and i had to put money in them not with my gms and ill fuckin prove that shit to your face im not scared
Dude its not just the UAW, its the execs and just the attitude at GM. As a supplier, this company is one of the toughest to work with. Their attitude is hey I'm GM, kiss my $#!! and do as I say. Whereas, a company like VW worked really hard with my to bring our component to production. VW said it best, our success is theirs. That's why they are posed to take over as largest automaker in the world.
Gm made buick make boring cars. this video was what made that happen.the mighty corvette can never be out done by a "buick". the last fast car buick made was the 2004 regal gs.basically a 4 door gn.olds was done in by stupid marketing.
and this is the reason GM killed the boy racer buicks. Chevy was pissed that its corvette was FAILING to the GN. When Buick got news that it had to get away from performance it decided to go out with a bang. The GNX
i could watch this video all day...the gnx has to be the greatest gm car of all time...they really f-ed up by not giving it time to catch on...this video is the greatest, too-michigan made cars on a michigan drag strip wearing the old michigan plates
BS. The guy in the Calloway knew how to drive. Lets face it, there's no beating one of the fastest production cars of all time. Why do you think Buick is STILL using the 3.8 litre V6 block to this day? A bone stock GNX will still lay to waste pretty much anything out there (with a few exceptions)
Regardless of this vid, a GNX is not faster than an 87 Callaway TT. 345hp and 465 tq in a 3300lb car is not going to lose to a car with around 300hp weighing 300lbs more unless there is something wrong or you can't drive stick.
The GNX produced 328 HP 4400 RPM, and 420 ft/lb at 2400 RPM. It has lower gearing and it ran 0-60 4.7 and 1/4 miles in 13 flat to 13.2 depending on how cold it was and the traction.
The GNX was set up for pure 1/4 mile runs and 0-60 type action. The Twin Turbo Vette in 1987 was set up top speed shoot outs of 175 MPH with the German and Italian stuff.
Plus it was automatic, Shift gears in the vette loose boost, that problem was not there for the GNX.
The GNX was a truly impressive production car. The Callaway Twin turbo vette cost more at the time. I can't believe that with 2 turbos and more cubic inches the vette wasn't more competitive. The Callaway had potential but at more cost. 89 Turbo Trans Ams had the Gn motor with different heads, they also run good too. GNX good in fact. Why? I ran one...beat em'.
The Buick Regal T-Type/GN/GNX...truly a sleeper if there ever was one. Had an '86 GN briefly in 1994(loan value couldn't be adjusted, loan co. kept classifying it as a damn T-Type....c'est la vie)....the baddest domestic car of the 1980's easily.
yes sir...i have an 89 iroc whit a vette engine or 5.7 whatever u wana call it....and i rape the new si, rsx type s..and a bunch of import crap....and of course the04 and below mustang gt's
It's amazing that a low mileage, stock, pristine condition GNX can fetch at least $80,000 grand. Seriously, check on ebay! Hopefully I wish to win the lottery some day. Heck, I think I might even sell a body part!
actually,that date you mentioned was when the very last turbo buick was made, which happened to be a grand national. then gm closed that plant down and all of flint,michigan went to hell. the gnx production run was over by early summer that year. the last time 3.8 turbo was used was in the 89 turbo trans am.
Final build of the GNs were done in Pontiac, MI. The GNX conversion were done in nearby Southgate, MI. I live about 10 minutes away from the ASC facility where the conversion took place.
Not the best handling car, but give it some suspension upgrades , send it round the Nordschleife a couple of times, tune it a little and this thing would be a monster.
This car was the Darth vader of cars! I know them very well it and till this day 20 years later it will kill everything in the street. So imagine if GM kept on building it to this day.
Probably the last true muscle car, sure, the power didn't come from cubes, but it's brutish style and straight-line only handling made it the last of a breed.
Straight line only handling isn't exactly accurate. It was just as cheap to get this car to put out better lap times on a road circuit against the C4 as it was to put it into the low 12's.
328 HP at 4400 RPM and 420 ft lb of Torque at 2400 RPM. A true beast, this car is like a fucking Viking from the North, it pillages and burns down the villages.
@smokeygnx Ok. Let's examine this symphony of failure line by line. First, there are too many spelling errors to list. Apparently you missed the day that the rest of us learned that i comes before e except after c. Second, it's a ceramic impeller, not a ceramic ball bearing you dim-witted fuck. Third. From the factory, the GNX was over 400 lb/ft. Bump the boos up to 25 lbs, which is about all the stock internals will handle, and 500 lb/ft is easy.
@smokeygnx Fourth, your daily driven T-Type which I doubt very seriously exists since you behave like you're twelve years of age, is not going to outrun my drag prepped Grand National. Fifth, what in the fuck do those last two lines even mean. I can't make heads or tales of that bit of rambling. Sixth, is that supposed to be a fucking haiku? Why did you add a line break after every poorly thought out, even more poorly spelled statement?
GOOD LORD , THAT GNX SOUNDED LIKE A F/15 FIGHTER JET!!! JUST FEROCIOUS!!!
hellagun 4 months ago
@pbee73 Most definitely. This car was exceptional in it's time is juss the point being made
boss12 5 months ago
Oh man...that SOUND!
IceHockeyJedi 6 months ago
WooooHoooooo!!!!!! GNX, baby!!! BUICK!!!
DJRckwl 7 months ago in playlist 1 of mine
The GNX is juss plain vicious
boss12 7 months ago
Thats not a callaway change the description... thats a base model c4
MiztakenX 8 months ago
I remember this video.... I actually got to drive GNX # 001 back when it was new. Mom worked at Buick as an Executive Secretary.
MatcoTom64 10 months ago
And this video is proof of why GM AXED the turbo Buicks...Because they were smacking GM's flagship car the Corvette.....BOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Turbo Buick 4 Life!!!
magnesiumpearlrt 11 months ago
@magnesiumpearlrt This not proof why they were discontinued. The truth is GM wanted to introduce the new W body front wheel drive models. They discontinued the G body (Buick Regal and Pontiac Gran Prix in 1987 then the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme and Chevrolet Monte Carlo in 1988). GM is all about sales so if they could have kept the Buick they would have. They over ran production until December of 1987 which is very rare for a manufacture. They were making room for the new technology.
walkerscranger 5 months ago
@walkerscranger Be that as it may...i like my theroy better...FWD sucks! Im not disagreeing with you, as I know the truth behind the Demise of the RWD G body...I just dont want to believe it!
magnesiumpearlrt 5 months ago
@magnesiumpearlrt I know what you mean. I wish they had ran them at least to 1990.
walkerscranger 5 months ago
@walkerscranger Or at least kept putting the legendary 3.8SFI Turbo engine in more cars!!!
magnesiumpearlrt 5 months ago
@magnesiumpearlrt If they turboed a 3800 no one would remember the 3.8
theraf8100 4 months ago
@theraf8100 As powerful as the turbo 3.8 was, I agree that a turbo 3800 Series II or III would leave a turbo 3.8 like it was parked! With the cross-bolted steel main caps, roller valvetrain, and much better flowing heads, there would be no comparison. There are people who have even swapped out the original 3.8's from their TR's for the 3800's, so there's further proof of the 3800's potential.
unknownuser1987 3 weeks ago
If only I was rich. I'd find all the GNX's I could and build a nice garage to store them. I read to them each night, hug them and squeeze them and call them George.
sokodad 1 year ago 5
I will never, ever, get tired of watching this video.
twal1011 1 year ago
buy the video quality, it looks like this was taken when the gnx was bran new
06TurboVtec 1 year ago
Cannot image a "newer" looking GN. It was light years ahead of its time in 1987. If production continued, it might look something like a G8/GTO.
Can you see it? Grand National ZR1 ?!?!??!!
twiztidpurpose 1 year ago
And another side story.. Of course GM couldn't have a suped up regal outrunning it's flagship.. Why do you think they stopped production truly?.. A tech move to the "W" body sure.. But.. It just goes to show that this Buick was a great car for it's time and I wish to god they hadn't stopped making it.. And this is coming from a proud C4 vette owner!
bighunt08 1 year ago
Stupid asses that dont get it. That was a real GNX and a real Callaway Corvette. Yes the GNX smashed it repeatedly. With a better driver that GNX could have ponded it even harder. Look at the magazines from early 88. Same location idiots.
bison548 1 year ago
I love the GN... my question is.... was that a stock GNX?
I gotta have the GNX Honest. Dream car.
TripleZ89 1 year ago
Man that last pass the GN sounded like a jet going for lift off gotta love it. Vids like this make me so happy I own one and understand why Corvette guys hate and respect me at the same time. Long live Detroit Muscle and McLaren they were a great team.
sidsaylor 1 year ago
coolest American car ever made.
heartboy86 1 year ago
whoevers in denial stop its a known fact that a gn can take a c4 vette on the 1/4 mile which is why gm killed the car
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago 2
was this a gm corporate video? did they run it just to affirm their decision to kill GNX? Not being sarcastic. Would love to know story behind this video. Unless it's a Callaway video...the B2L or whatever it was called came out in '87, the same time as the GNX.
Torque figures on the GNX went up fast--from 250-270 in '82 to '300 in '84-85, 330 in '86, 345 in '87 and over 400 for the GNX.
jaecht83 1 year ago
@jaecht83 The decision was made in 1986 to end the rear wheel drive "G" body. Which included Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme ending in 1988, Pontica Grand Prix and the Buick Regal ending in 1987. It took two years to use up all the surplus of "G" body parts. That is why in 1987 there were over 20,000 turbo Regals. The decision to end them was because GM wanted to move forward with the front wheel drive "W" body vehicles. It was a technology move.
walkerscranger 1 year ago
the gnx that is, the vette's around number 21
cbcrog 1 year ago
ahhhhh number 5 on list of 100 things i have to own before i die
cbcrog 1 year ago
This vid prove the reason why GM shut the production of the GNX... Sadly...
7FP3 1 year ago
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@7FP3 The decision was made in 1986 to end the rear wheel drive "G" body. Which included Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme ending in 1988, Pontica Grand Prix and the Buick Regal ending in 1987. It took two years to use up all the surplus of "G" body parts. That is why in 1987 there were over 20,000 turbo Regals. The decision to end them was because GM wanted to move forward with the front wheel drive "W" body vehicles. It was a technology move.
walkerscranger 1 year ago
the 200r4 trans and the turbo made the gn accelerate fast. Just add a high stall converter and you can leave the line under boost.
donwonjon420 1 year ago
my dad owns a '87 GNX and a 09 Z51 and the Corvette beats it so saying that the corvette is not good is an understatement people
944911928 1 year ago
I bet Reeves Callaway felt pretty dumb after he first saw this....
boss12 1 year ago
gnx sed ,"hello...goodbye!" LOL
jakebrake808 1 year ago
when u say callaway if you are talkn the sledgehammer, there is no way in hell stock it would even touch it. the normal vette, yea but whos to say that this gnx is stock ?
mikedaman454 1 year ago
The great GN owns the streets and track !!!I love you GN !!!(kissing the GN on my screen lol)...
pontiaclives 1 year ago
gnx is still the king
MrBaldman009 1 year ago
absofuckinglutely
jakebrake808 1 year ago
This clip appears to be from 1987 when GM compared the two Kings in Detroit, MI. It was a closed track affair. They were both stock, right out of the box.
walkerscranger 2 years ago
@walkerscranger I believe you, but were you there? What's the back story on this? there are so many prototypes not released to the public. I've seen a Reatta prototype with the GN 3.8, as well as a Riviera 3.8 GN and also a 307 Electra Wagon with mods. They're in old scans of '88-89-era Popular Mechanics.
jaecht83 1 year ago
@jaecht83 I was a technician at a Buick dealership 85-88 and the Buick Rep had this vehicle. He stated that Buick wanted to see if the modded Grand National could out run the Corvette. After the comparison an article was release that the Buick could out run the Corvette. Buick wanted to go out with a bang so they moved to include an outside company (McClaren) to make the Grand National more responsive and faster. They succeeded and no American produced vehicle that year could out run it.
walkerscranger 1 year ago
@jaecht83 Typo... The Buick Rep had a copy of the video in VHS, not the vehicle.
walkerscranger 1 year ago
Thats not a callaway vette.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago
Yes it is !!! I have the magazine article from a 1987 popular mechanics magazine. The back drop is the same when you look at the photos. regards....
shentel97 2 years ago
Then that GN was far from stock.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago
Read about these cars man, it's the GNX. They were modified by ASC McClaren (547 to be exact) and came out of the factory with 300HP. Which by 1987 standards was a lot, more than the Corvette, which is a major no no for GM. It was the last year for the Grand National, which was rated at 245hp for this year. The GNX was rated at 276 hp but car and driver found it to be more like 300. I also believe it ran a 13.5s 1/4 mile, factory. The GN would also beat a vette in the 1/4 this year, stock, fact
colefernandez47 2 years ago
The GN was also faster than the Ferrari Testarossa in the 1.4. the GNX was in Countach terrtory.
But you have to take into consideration that callaways where quick and still quick to this day as well. I wouldn't discount the fact the GN would take out a stock L98 no problem but a callaway I would second guess.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago
@vfIskullangel that's sick re: the countach. it couldn't handle worth a damn.
jaecht83 1 year ago
@jaecht83 The Countach was the best overall car in those days.
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
@colefernandez47 actually, even in '87 the stock GN had 5 more HP than the Vette, which had 240. Vette got 245 in '88-90 and 250 in '91 before going to an LT1. Some versions had 240 in '88 and only 245 in '91. Depends on axle ratio and trim level. The '86 Vettes had 230 or 235, depending on aluminum heads or not.
jaecht83 1 year ago
Everyone i know that drags Grand Nationals all chunk that wimpy THM 200 for a 4L60/E. They can handle 1000 ft/lbs with minor mods.The 200 needs 5 grand put into it to handle any serious power which isnt really worth it.
netrioter 2 years ago
i had a 700r 4 in my Syclone...they sucked.The 4L60E(revised 700r4,handled more power,electronic) i had put in worked a hell of alot better. The THM 200 is absolute garbage. the 200-4r is marginally better but theyre meant for the olds 307/Chev 305 moderate power outputs.Buick had to use em cause thats what the 3.8 bolts to.The 200-4r in the 84 Hurst/Olds failed all the time.The police 200-4rs all failed too.They just cant handle severe duty well.
netrioter 2 years ago
sweet i saw a 1987 gnx #415 of #539 with 678 miles for sale on autotrader for $129,000 i would settle for grand national of the same year bcuz thats the year I was born
tintobasher714 2 years ago
The 200 r4 was a crappy transmission period!!! Especially when you put insane amounts of power to it.. Take it from me I had changed it 11 times.. As far as other facts I had a stock W4 t-type 3.8 sfi V6 87 model year it ran 14.1 Stock in hot weather The GNX ran 13.60's . These cars were amazing back in the day & knocked about 2 seconds off it's stock time with some bolt-on's
tenfiveracer 2 years ago
Yup, such a crappy trans that people have ran 10's in the 1/4 mile with them. Perhaps you should tell Art Carr that he's wasting his time with them/has been wasting his time on them.
meangreen69Nova 2 years ago 2
You had a we-4 to? They are awsome cars. I miss mine. It ran 14 flat stock. My oldman and I added a new chip, ram air and a few other little things. It ran low 13's. We bought it to EnglishTown for the mustand gn shoot out, it was alot of fun. 16,500 brand new! So much bang for the buck! He bought it in 87 I bought it from him in Highschool for 5 grand! We had one of only a few with the moon roof. In highschooI I used to eat up the kids with stangs!
AgnosticFonts00 2 years ago
11 200R4s? sounds like the problem is not the trans but more the driver or trans builder!
urs0crazy 2 years ago
Good gearing indeed. Too bad it came with the 700r4 tranny, but a minor blemish on an otherwise excellent car.
KarlSmithJones25 2 years ago
i wud rather have the od for freeway use ... not sure wat they topped out at doe..
weewoodeal 2 years ago
actually it is a 200-4r and I would say it's far from a blemish...many consider it one of the best matched enigine/tranny combos, that is capable of low tens if beefed up, and then getting 20 plus mpg on the way home
theraf8100 2 years ago
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what a joke! callaway vet ? lol that was a plain 1984 corvette with crossfire injection only rated at like 220 hp stock and it still was only a few cars back. if that was a real callaway twinturbo vet the GNX would of had a sad day. the callaway was very distinctive looking from other vets my friend. I love the GNX but quit bein a poser sayin you kicked a callawy . a stock LT1 vet with a 6spd or LT1 anything would wipe its ass with a "stock " GN
imadrunkenfooL11 2 years ago
You must be a vette owner in denial LMAO!!!!
1Bad87T 2 years ago 8
@1Bad87T I am a vette owner but not in denial... I have the utmost respect for the almighty GN! 4000lbs and a box shape, and it can still whip those little 2500lb rice burners you see on the street today! IMHO it is a turbo'd car done right! Kudos to GM!
pbee73 6 months ago
@pbee73 Whats interesting to me is how people in the same house disagree. GM makes both vehicles... whats the big deal. At the time the Grand National produced more HP and more low rpm torque than the Corvette. This meant a lot of sales. GM new this and push the produce up on the GN to over 20,000 turbo models through December. More than any previous year.
walkerscranger 5 months ago
got alot of thumbs down on that comment, but its a correct comment, stock vette, anyone can tell, maybe, and yes that would have been a sad day for the buick if that vette would have won!!
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markmarshall39 2 years ago
shoulda, coulda, woulda....always the case.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
When you pull up to Vette's in a GN or GNX, the Vette cowers.
fadetoblack1290 1 year ago
Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!
mikemichalkowdrums 2 years ago
hard to believe the GNX was rated from the factory at ONLY 276hp... can u say "under rated"?
bullitt774 2 years ago
It may have low HP numbers but the torque is much higher. Plus the car had good gearing to make it accelerate that fast. Alot of people dont understand that.
pbee73 2 years ago 15
i would like to see a stock '87 GN vs. a stock '87 GNX. just to see how big of a difference we're talkin....
bullitt774 2 years ago
I think the '87 GN is a mid 13 second car and the '87 GNX was mid 12's. I could be wrong so dont quote me on it! I am gonna try to look it up now.
pbee73 2 years ago
I just seen on some web site that the '87 GNX is a 13.5 second car. So the regular '87 GN must be a mid 14 sec. I do remember that the GNX was almost a second quicker than the base GN. I do love the GNX dash board which used analog guages instead of the digital readout on the GN's
pbee73 2 years ago
i think the gn was 245 an the gnx for sure was dyno at the wheels at 300hp
weewoodeal 2 years ago
@pbee73 300 HP was a lot for an American car in the 1980's.
boss12 6 months ago
@boss12 The HP ratings has changed from the 80's to now.
pbee73 6 months ago
@pbee73 The car didn't look that good on paper but you're right they were geared. low 1st gear , a 30% overdrive and 3.42 gears. Made for a GREAT all aroudn combination.....and the higher stall converter too.
91CTD 4 months ago
straight spanked that ass with no hesitation :D
GTCrazyDevil 2 years ago
In the 4 test races ran in this video, the GNX won 4 times. That's impressive. It swept the Corvette
boss12 2 years ago 2
The 1992 buick roadmaster is one of the finest buicks ever made I have one. But it is no GN.
buickman350 2 years ago
Ahhhh, poor little dick Corvette!
Turbo66Coupe 2 years ago
GM's bailout should be to simply remake this car. They should remake all of their classic cars. That's their problem; other than the Corvette they have nothing of value. So why not buy a honda that is going to get 200k+ for sure? This car (and let's just say all the GN's from 86-87 as well) is a rare slice of engineering excellence at the very time its President, Roger Smith, that had the gall to close the very factories in which they were made. The GNX, a 547 gun salute to General Motors.
colefernandez47 3 years ago
but with todays economy, and gas prices. nobody wants to buy a grand national to haul their family in. a minivan works fine. and for a daily commute to work would you rather have a hyundai with like 30 mpg or a corvette with like 15mpg. just take Dodge for example..viper...charger...challenger...yet their in the shitter farther then anyone. Hybrids are the way to go in my opinion
Floe4444 3 years ago
I live 5 miles from my job. I do drive a Corvette to work because I don't give a shit about gas prices.
colefernandez47 2 years ago
because you don't give a shit isn't a very good argument man...
Floe4444 2 years ago
Don't hate because I got an education and a career. I feel no sympathy for someone who works at Wal-Mart and complains about gas prices. I hope they get up to $10 a gallon so people will stop driving so frivolously. Regardless, I picked up an 87 vette (because I actually like that body style) for 9k and I drive it to work almost daily. The price of gasoline is too trivial for me to care about. There, I hope that explains it for you.
colefernandez47 2 years ago
you don't have a very good education then. Your the one that wants to ruin the ecosystem and waste all our fossil fuels because "i like the 87 vette body blah blah blah FUCK THAT!" your the reason future generations will suffer. because your ignorance and you have this attitude that your shit don't stink because "you don't care" alright yeah good argument....
Floe4444 2 years ago
Because I care about "future generations". Please learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before you make comments about my "ignorance". I could care less about the ecosystem, I'm not having children and when my time on earth is over the last thing I will care about is anyone else. Love me some me.
colefernandez47 2 years ago
but when i first commented you it was because you said "GM's bailout should be to simply remake this car". No it's not. A bailout in a crashing economy when gas prices are sky high is not to make a gas guzzling muscle car. that's why GM can't make the camaro. Fucking dumbass. Read up on your times before you comment.
Floe4444 2 years ago
The Grand National got between 17-25 MPG. Not what I'd call gas guzzling. As far as gas prices being sky high, they've been under $2/gal consistently since last November or so. The 3.8L engine was ahead of its time in 1987 when Buick created a car faster than the Corvette (a major no-no for GM) and more fuel efficient as well. Considering that inflation rates have been hovering around 3% annually over the past fifteen years the current price of gasoline could hardly be considered "sky high".
colefernandez47 2 years ago 2
Furthermore, your inability to understand that my suggestion to reproduce the 1987 GN and GNX was nothing more than a compliment to the finest motor vehicle ever produced by Buick either shows that you have autism and take everything literally, or you are the "fucking dumbass" here. The Grand National was the beginning of the end for GM as it signified the transition from RWD muscle to FWD garbage such as the chevy lumina and cavalier. No one has a '97 lumina in their car collection.
colefernandez47 2 years ago 3
My commentary was merely a terse exaggeration of my disdain for General Motors in the last twenty-two years, in which, aside from the Corvette, Trans AM, Camaro SS and 94-96 Impala SS they have produced nothing that can be considered collector worthy. The Grand National and especially the 547 GNX's were really the end of an era as foreign automakers began to emerge as a major competitor in the U.S. market. GM has no one to blame but themselves for the sad state of affairs they are currently in
colefernandez47 2 years ago 2
You're changing your story around now asshole. Before you said GM should make this car again (which would be one of the worst moves GM could make right now) and that the GNX was the last muscle car? Dodge Viper, Mercury Marauder, Pontiac GTO, Chevrolet Camaro. they're all car collection worthy AND we're all produced AFTER the GNX was discontinued. So your point is nullified. SO your saying it's GM's fault the economy is crashing? I don't think so bud.
Floe4444 2 years ago
i agree w/ u... wut needed 2b done was fire the designers and as well as the ceo. buick and olds still had potential w/ a remake of buick gnx( not this shitty one thats been debuted, a real one), and the olds 442 WITH A V8!... im so tired of these designers and engineers taking our american sports car icons and throwin' 6cyl's in them and glorifying it.
jakebrake808 1 year ago
@jakebrake808
Apparentley you're a retard. Do some research before you start thowing classics like this under the bus. Maybe you should find out what's actually under the hood. Of course 442s are classic but this car is the last real American sports car produced.
cronk16 1 year ago
@cronk16 mr. cronk16, i knew this car long before you knew how to spell regal.... i know exactly wuts under the hood. i was refering to the 2011 regal 4dr. w/ the weak ass turbo that suposed to satisfy gnx enthusists? dont think so. this 87 gnx is boss and will be for a long time and only a 2dr remake will honor this legend.
jakebrake808 1 year ago
@jakebrake808 If you knew this car at all you would know that it was a damn good attempt from Buick to rival the GSX. It did and it bested it in most ways. What did Olds do? AND LOOK BACK! The 442 was nothing compared to the GSX.
yetilikesbeer 1 year ago
@cronk16 dont know if you've seen the proposed 2011 gnx, but its an insult.check it out
jakebrake808 1 year ago
The finest buick ever built was the 1992 Buick roadmaster 5.7 V8. Which was RWD if I recall. Sooo 5 years after GM made its transition to FWD full sized cars they make a RWD full sized car? You explain to me how that works.
Floe4444 2 years ago
So you'd rather drive a car that got 17 mpg (that's if you never raced it. Which i'm assuming anyone with that power would. Obviously) so it's more like 14-15 mpg give or take when gas is $2 a gallon. Or drive a more fuel efficient 27+ mpg car and save probably thousands of dollars a year depending on how much you drive.
Floe4444 2 years ago
The Viper and Marauder are made by Chrysler and Ford respectively. Not GM, which is who I am talking about. Second, the Grand National got 17mpg city and 25 mpg highway, and of course if you ran it hard it would get 15mpg, but it's a performance vehicle. That comment about the 92 roadmaster is hilarious. I'm sure if you did a poll more people would want a GNX, but that's just me. Once again, I don't need to save thousands of dollars, I don't care and I'm done arguing on the internet with you
colefernandez47 2 years ago
And I didn't say GM was the reason the economy is "crashing" as you put it. I said GM is responsible for why they are in the position they are right now. The have produced shit for the past 20 years (corsica, cavalier, cobalt, HHR, lumina, sunbird, 6000, celebrity, beretta, grand am, etc..) And I acknowledged the few good cars they made, forgive me for forgetting the GTO, the only other car you offered up as an example. Toyota and Honda make superior vehicles now, GM is done for.
colefernandez47 2 years ago
it wasnt there cars douche bag it was ignorant idiots that think they wont last like you i see more luminas and shit on the road than i do older toyotas although i do see a shit load of old accords on the road but that's besides the point the UAW killed gm and so did ignorant assholes that love the ugly powerless shit cars japan puts out ive owned jap cars and i had to put money in them not with my gms and ill fuckin prove that shit to your face im not scared
durakingdiesel 2 years ago
Dude its not just the UAW, its the execs and just the attitude at GM. As a supplier, this company is one of the toughest to work with. Their attitude is hey I'm GM, kiss my $#!! and do as I say. Whereas, a company like VW worked really hard with my to bring our component to production. VW said it best, our success is theirs. That's why they are posed to take over as largest automaker in the world.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
People don't like the truth!
sinusbradycardia 1 year ago
I swear that thing sounds like a jet plane flying by!
blueblade455 3 years ago
My dad had number 352, best we got out of it was a 13.2 bone stock, 12.0 with a little tweaking :)
TurboGSR96 3 years ago
old school owned XD! wtf happened to buick my first car was a GS455 STAGE 1 they make granny cars now please bring back the GN or GS please GM!!!
trav1971 3 years ago
gotta love the GN. Half the price of a vette and faster than all!!!!!!!!
lakerhater4 3 years ago
Buick makes boring cars now, GM should've dropped it instead of Oldsmobile.
Kevinesque 3 years ago
Gm made buick make boring cars. this video was what made that happen.the mighty corvette can never be out done by a "buick". the last fast car buick made was the 2004 regal gs.basically a 4 door gn.olds was done in by stupid marketing.
redbuick 3 years ago
and this is the reason GM killed the boy racer buicks. Chevy was pissed that its corvette was FAILING to the GN. When Buick got news that it had to get away from performance it decided to go out with a bang. The GNX
dirtracr95 3 years ago
Listen to the turbo whistle on the last run.
nrbovee 3 years ago
i could watch this video all day...the gnx has to be the greatest gm car of all time...they really f-ed up by not giving it time to catch on...this video is the greatest, too-michigan made cars on a michigan drag strip wearing the old michigan plates
elohsssa 3 years ago
Yes, buick is still using the 3.8 today, but they are not the same blocks. Or the same for that matter
billygilky 3 years ago
Your right. A GNX is not faster than the Calloway Vette. Let me look at that video again.....well, yup the GNX is faster than the Calloway Vette.
notacarlo 3 years ago
z06 rules
camirocz 3 years ago
BS. The guy in the Calloway knew how to drive. Lets face it, there's no beating one of the fastest production cars of all time. Why do you think Buick is STILL using the 3.8 litre V6 block to this day? A bone stock GNX will still lay to waste pretty much anything out there (with a few exceptions)
WSOR 3 years ago
your right on that, few, remember the gmc cyclone and typhoon, wow:)
markmarshall39 3 years ago
remember it...im trying to build mine still gawd its a night mare
nivin69 3 years ago
Regardless of this vid, a GNX is not faster than an 87 Callaway TT. 345hp and 465 tq in a 3300lb car is not going to lose to a car with around 300hp weighing 300lbs more unless there is something wrong or you can't drive stick.
itaIianstaIIion 3 years ago
That may be correct but Callaway ain't stock and the Buick is.
EdwardJellico 3 years ago
Do you not race or hang out at the track much?
Catch up on your math son...ever heard of torque/H.P. curves or trans/rear gearing?
JohnForce01 3 years ago
The GNX produced 328 HP 4400 RPM, and 420 ft/lb at 2400 RPM. It has lower gearing and it ran 0-60 4.7 and 1/4 miles in 13 flat to 13.2 depending on how cold it was and the traction.
The GNX was set up for pure 1/4 mile runs and 0-60 type action. The Twin Turbo Vette in 1987 was set up top speed shoot outs of 175 MPH with the German and Italian stuff.
Plus it was automatic, Shift gears in the vette loose boost, that problem was not there for the GNX.
Statismisbad 2 years ago
GNX,Thats my dream car.
ihangfromhooks 3 years ago
The GNX was a truly impressive production car. The Callaway Twin turbo vette cost more at the time. I can't believe that with 2 turbos and more cubic inches the vette wasn't more competitive. The Callaway had potential but at more cost. 89 Turbo Trans Ams had the Gn motor with different heads, they also run good too. GNX good in fact. Why? I ran one...beat em'.
89turbotransam 3 years ago
The Buick Regal T-Type/GN/GNX...truly a sleeper if there ever was one. Had an '86 GN briefly in 1994(loan value couldn't be adjusted, loan co. kept classifying it as a damn T-Type....c'est la vie)....the baddest domestic car of the 1980's easily.
bowslap 3 years ago
Stock trap speeds are very impressive.
jovan1964 3 years ago
This vid has become the gold standard as far as the GNX goes.
Amazing GM produced such a car-- not only for it's fantastic engine, also for the suspension mods that put all that power down.
Rock on!
jovan1964 3 years ago
Black shoebox wins!
Brugality 3 years ago
black shoebox? lol thats a bad ass car u lame
CaMaRo1RoC89 3 years ago
I'd know since I own one. That's my license plate.
Brugality 3 years ago
OMG !!
the c4 looked like an ass !!
3yyar 4 years ago
its like the german hardcore movies
serkank77 4 years ago
Great goddamn fuckin' Buick
boss12 4 years ago
nice one
throttlehappy346 4 years ago
buick gnx is the monster of all 80 power cars would love to get my greedy hands on one
RcngNut 4 years ago
I find it hard to believe that a 275hp car can go from 0-60 in 5 seconds.
BBQjust4u 4 years ago
it was faster than the Ferrari testarossa back then,
Goodsux 4 years ago
That's the grand national for you :D
V6TurboLover 4 years ago
276 but 380 tq
drmario05 4 years ago
300 in the GNX 275 in the grand national in 87.
PerryFan66 4 years ago
nope its 275 on the gnx and 245 and the national
CaMaRo1RoC89 3 years ago
Correction 276 in the GNX 245 in the Grand National. It dont seem like much but these cars ran like a bat out of hell.
And there still beating up on the new modern crap these days.
I know I have one! has ran 11.30s at 119 mph!
PerryFan66 4 years ago
yes sir...i have an 89 iroc whit a vette engine or 5.7 whatever u wana call it....and i rape the new si, rsx type s..and a bunch of import crap....and of course the04 and below mustang gt's
CaMaRo1RoC89 3 years ago
You beat 4 cylinder cars? Impressive.
morecowbell69 3 years ago
ay its all in the price u lame......my car worth 5000...the new ones worth like 20000....no brainer....look who im answering to...=)
CaMaRo1RoC89 3 years ago
I had a 1985 Iroc when it was only 3 years old, in 1988. Bought it with 29,000 miles on it. Fun car, but it was a piece of shit.
morecowbell69 3 years ago
further correction, they ony advertised 276... they had much more, and were dyno'd at ASC/McLaren
I have read every single piece of info on this car...why? Because my family had #352
TurboGSR96 3 years ago
Car and Driver 1987 4.7 s 0-60 MPH...
Statismisbad 2 years ago
It's amazing that a low mileage, stock, pristine condition GNX can fetch at least $80,000 grand. Seriously, check on ebay! Hopefully I wish to win the lottery some day. Heck, I think I might even sell a body part!
blueblade455 4 years ago
wouldn't doubt it. they only made 500 something of them. not sure on the exact number, but is is somewhere in the 500's
ariel4more 4 years ago
547
Last one was made on December 11th, 1987.
V6TurboLover 4 years ago
actually,that date you mentioned was when the very last turbo buick was made, which happened to be a grand national. then gm closed that plant down and all of flint,michigan went to hell. the gnx production run was over by early summer that year. the last time 3.8 turbo was used was in the 89 turbo trans am.
csx999 3 years ago
Final build of the GNs were done in Pontiac, MI. The GNX conversion were done in nearby Southgate, MI. I live about 10 minutes away from the ASC facility where the conversion took place.
sinusbradycardia 3 years ago
sorry my mistake. the real point i was making is that the last turbo buick built was a grand national not a gnx.
csx999 3 years ago
I guess I kinda missed your point, so I apologize for that. I didn't realize that GNXs were done by early summer of 87.
December 11th, 1987 - a day that will live in infamy! The last Turbo Regal rolled off the line.
sinusbradycardia 3 years ago
Not the best handling car, but give it some suspension upgrades , send it round the Nordschleife a couple of times, tune it a little and this thing would be a monster.
splynt0r 4 years ago
I own a GN :)
vonpaulski 4 years ago
HOLY CRAP!.
Jman91 4 years ago
This car was the Darth vader of cars! I know them very well it and till this day 20 years later it will kill everything in the street. So imagine if GM kept on building it to this day.
lockudownNYC 4 years ago
Holy shit... GNX... SWEET!
shred5 4 years ago
my bro's 85 buick lesabre did that to a 87 corvette and the buick only had a rocket 350
halosux4life 4 years ago
that buick sounds like a jet. sweeett!!
odelgado78 4 years ago
cool
underpressureracing 4 years ago
ya cause that 3.8 v6 rulez!!!
halosux4life 4 years ago
Buicks are cool
Sideler74 4 years ago
Probably the last true muscle car, sure, the power didn't come from cubes, but it's brutish style and straight-line only handling made it the last of a breed.
spuy767 4 years ago
Straight line only handling isn't exactly accurate. It was just as cheap to get this car to put out better lap times on a road circuit against the C4 as it was to put it into the low 12's.
DrBIeed 4 years ago
Yes, but from the factory, it was more about straight line speed than anything else. It's not expensive to make it handle or go faster on the strip.
spuy767 2 years ago
328 HP at 4400 RPM and 420 ft lb of Torque at 2400 RPM. A true beast, this car is like a fucking Viking from the North, it pillages and burns down the villages.
Statismisbad 5 years ago
With an adjustable waste gate, and a turbo off of a wrecked GNX, My '87 was putting down nearly 500 lbs.
spuy767 2 years ago
dude your a lier
1st of only gnx recieved only minor uprgrade
and the turnbo just recieved ceramic ball bearing in the turbo
my daily friven 87 ttype will blow the dooors of ur car your friends car and whatever you got
you weak asss internet fool
dog go love honda
smokeygnx 2 years ago
@smokeygnx Ok. Let's examine this symphony of failure line by line. First, there are too many spelling errors to list. Apparently you missed the day that the rest of us learned that i comes before e except after c. Second, it's a ceramic impeller, not a ceramic ball bearing you dim-witted fuck. Third. From the factory, the GNX was over 400 lb/ft. Bump the boos up to 25 lbs, which is about all the stock internals will handle, and 500 lb/ft is easy.
spuy767 1 year ago
@smokeygnx Fourth, your daily driven T-Type which I doubt very seriously exists since you behave like you're twelve years of age, is not going to outrun my drag prepped Grand National. Fifth, what in the fuck do those last two lines even mean. I can't make heads or tales of that bit of rambling. Sixth, is that supposed to be a fucking haiku? Why did you add a line break after every poorly thought out, even more poorly spelled statement?
spuy767 1 year ago
0-60 in 4.6 sec, that's quick!
george85442 5 years ago
GNX gorever!!
gnxnational 5 years ago
good god, that sounds fuckin nice.
atxking27 5 years ago