Aboriginal Passports issued to asylum seekers prevented from entering Australia

[gunailad]

Aboriginals were the only race able to live forever, the engish stole all their ideas, mainly from the chinese, they invented arse sniffing (rugby), can only steal, I know of thiefs that are rich and upper class but they are still thiefs, nothings changed, most white races operate like parasites to greedy to care for their childrens future, we never could be so parasitic, im proud, aussie are angry for what? Whinging cry babys, imagine if something actually happen to the bitter bigots,how spoilt

[PerpetualHarvest]

Thanks Juice you guys are on it!

[smithiesal]

I just stumbled across this. A thoughtful action tying together 2 of Australia's most pressing human rights concerns. Any plans to do something like this for the 'Malaysian solution' families?

[Dorshon]

Oi Zombie,

Its a bit more complicated than that, as i'm sure you can appreciate. If white man came in peace, things would have been different..

[zombiekiller117]

It just shows Abo's don't actually care about this 'stolen land' crap.

They don't have a problem with 3rd Worlders being on this 'stolen land'

They ONLY have a problem with my people,White people.

They say they are 'anti-racist' but really they're just Anti-White.

Anti-racism is a codeword for Anti-White.

[coconutsmoker]

@zombiekiller117

don't you understand that there is a slight difference between occupying someones land, killing and using the natives as slaves, destroying their culture and changing their way of life on the one hand, and seeking for asylum on the other?

Well the "abo's" do

[zombiekiller117]

@coconutsmoker

Who cares what the abos think ?

You're considering taking into account the thoughts of a group who in 60 thousand years never invented the wheel,written language or agriculture.

The abo's remain the most primitive people on the planet who ONLY left the stone age because at great expense my people,White people dragged them out of it.

In return we have endured sexual assualts,violence and theft from these primates.

Had we shot them all on colonisation we'd have been better off.

[elliotoblio]

it could be alot worse, actually its very PC when put a sock in all the whingers mouths,

[elliotoblio]

refugees consider the Aboriginals of Australia to be animals they look down on them ( not my words or view ) the only reason they want in is because our system is a joke to them & easy to exploit they are all coming from very poor & corrupt systems themselves where anything goes They bring that with them & just stick to their own ways Everyone is racist not just Australians ? all countries are internally racist wake up & stop waving the racist card around

[mysty0]

I think the best thing to be done is to acquire one of these passports and travel to the countries that do accept them...., a collection of stamps from every country that does accept this passport and then apply to enter a country that doesnt accept it and after you are denied simply ask why. I think a quick fly around the world by a few people with the finances to do so and using this passport.., enough people asking why will apply pressure

[elliotoblio]

this is one of the most stupid things i have ever read,every one just stop whinging & wake up before we go down the toilet like America, we have a process of gaining entry to our system & it should be respected or suffer the consequences, i guarantee if the roles where reversed & you were trying to get into their country the treatment would not be humane. Criminally who runs this country ? immigrants do, Italian mafia,lebanese gangs this is a fact & they are & will be running this country soon!

[flowerpowerhippy]

Hey Juice media - I have posted an article about this great video on Melbourne Indymedia - great work

[ov010]

what he says about being the sovereign people, authority of the land makes sense.

[ddaanniieell112]

.These asylum seekers throw their women and children overboard,set boats on fire and kill their own.They throw any I.D away so we don't know who they are, come here and treated better than real Aussie people.My tax dollars should go on our own people .Come through the front door like everyone else..Do your research robbie thorpe you are originally from indonesia and we are all indeginous and this lands belongs to all of us.

[thegamblergambler]

@ddaanniieell112 The land belongs to the aboriginals. Do your research or stop being in denial about the ownership rights of the original people.The Australian govt or Britian do not have treaties with the aboriginals so your wrong. Australia is an illegal occupation of another peoples land.The aboriginals have every right to offer passports to asylum seekers if the Australian govt will not live up to its UN obligations.The aboriginals are the rightful authority of that land just as Robbie said

[showlink]

@thegamblergambler Just because a limited number of indigenous ppl who are not moving forward say it is fine to bring in masses of ppl from overseas doesn't mean all indigenous ppl agree.

[thegamblergambler]

@showlink Yes not all aboriginal people would agree with this but i beleive the majority would as it is a tangible way to show other aboriginal people that they are the sovereign people of those lands. They are treated like refugees in their own country & that is unacceptable. Robbie Thorpe is right that the authority of the land is the aboriginal people. Australia needs to make a treaty with these people asap for it to have any credibility regarding human rights.How come Aussies cannot see this

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler Yes let them in. You should be ashamed. Letting them come here and get food, shelter, clothing, warm blankets, four star hotels to live in, and "your people" are living in the cold streets, homeless, no food sometimes, and the list goes on. So, if you are concerned, look after your Indigenous people first. Can you answer that one?

And, it is an illegal occupation of these Refugees coming here through the wrong channels.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll Yes I can aswer that one quite easily.....I am not aboriginal. I don't think asylum seekers are living in "4 star hotels"....more like detention centres or consentration camps. The aboriginals have always said barbbydoll that they never gave the British permission to be here so the first boat people cannot tell the second boat people to leave....only the aboriginals can morrally & legally do that.Anything else is just standover tactics.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler As for "4 star hotels" go and check out the Virginia Palms motel, where there around 110 Asylum Seekers there and the place is booked out till 19th October. Rooms are from $200-250 a night, yes a night. Get your facts right. I just live up the road. Were you around when the Aboriginals said that they didn't give permission to the British. Is it on written anywhere. They couldn't write then, so how do historians know? Show me in writing, then I will beleive it.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll Your just filled with rear & ignorance barbbydoll. Australia needs to deal with that as it is divisive & ill informed. The aboriginal had oral history & they did not approve the British & the British accepted this as Mabo defeated "terra nullius" in the High court of Australia. That is the proof of Britian not gaining proper permission from the aboriginals.The Australian government put forward a claim that no one was living on the land & it was found to be wrong.Know your history ok.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler And sure, you are the expert. Why aren't you in Government? A man like you with so much knowledge. Join a Professor I know. She will sway you to the truth. NOT! She is Aboriginal and well known, and she said she did it tough in the bush as she grew up, and knows what it is like to go without etc. My sisters and I went to school with her, and she lived in the next street, all through our childhood. So, tell me, are they all honest and trustworthy with the truth? Nope.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll I know what I need to know.That aboriginal professor should clear her scrambled mind of all the junk & start assisting all those good lawyers, retired high court judges & damn good ordinary Australians & international people to get a Human Rights Bill legislated into law ASAP.Full international human rights for all.And under those international human rights the aboriginals can finallly have a legal pathway to their land without threat of racist laws introduced.Please inform the PROFF

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler I don't talk to her and never will. Wouldn't give her the time of day. Maybe she should confess where she really came from.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll You have lost me now barbbydoll. Well....good talking to you.....no hard feelings....& your entitled to your view. We will have to agree to disagree. But there is good in you I feel.....& I enjoyed communicating with you as the conversation did not get as derogatory & silly as it usually does on YT.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll All that vent up fear of the aboriginals is not healthy & is ill informed & silly. The aboriginals are the rightful authority of the land whether we like it or not. And when Australia legislates on human rights (as they must if they want international credibility). Once this happens the aboriginals rights must be upheld.And under international human rights they are the owners of the land period.If the Commonwealth of Australia wants parts of their sovereignty then they must treaty.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler There is no fear, just that we are all equal now, so let's enjoy what we have and live in harmony. And you say you are white, what has the ordinary Aussie done to you to vent "your anger" Must have been bad.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll What "anger"....the only person venting angry stereotyping of the aboriginals is you barbbydoll. You speak as if there is some secret white man code of unity on aboriginal issues barbbydoll.Oh sorry...there is a code but I say stuff the code. I was raised by educated people who taught me about human rights,respect,being open minded & understanding. "Equal"....things will not be equal in Australia until the human rights of the aboriginals are upheld.HR's will respect their land rights

[barbbydoll]

Also to the Indian man, how dare he call our Politicians Hoodlums. He has been here for 35 years and I bet he came through the proper channels. He is Australian now, well if that is the case, who has looked after him, the government and I bet he has a job as well. If you think things are so bad, go back to your own country, don't enjoy the benefits you receive here. I am sick and tired of being called racist. We have said sorry, that should be it, but no, it just goes on and on.

[showlink]

@barbbydoll No barbbydoll it doesn't go on and on. It just goes on for some not all. I come from a blended aboriginal/white & immigrant family and not all indigenous ppl think this way and not all whites are harbouring guilt. This lot need to wake up and realise that there are issues in this country that need to be considered in relation to immigration/population which impact all of us. Abusing indigenous issues in this regard doesn't help achieve anything either except division.

[showlink]

@barbbydoll I totally agree barbbydoll.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll Sorry is not enough.If you had everything you ever had taken from you & someone & the beneficiary of that theft came along to you & said "sorry" would that "be it" for you. No it wouldn't.The aboriginals are entitled to a treaty for the use of their land nothing more or less. Under proper practice that you would demand there should be a sorry,return of the stolen property then legal action for attrocities, theft, genocide pain & suffering.Offspring of convicts should do the same.

[showlink]

@thegamblergambler What piece of aboriginal land are you sitting on?

[thegamblergambler]

@showlink When I visit it is mostly on the Eora or Bunjalung or more (i think thats how it is spelt). I do my best to make contact with them & pay respect.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler Ok, Was it me, or my father, or my fathers father that hurt the Aboriginal people here. NO! So, why must this go on and on. Mr Rudd had the guts to say sorry, so we should all be equal now. And yes, it would "be it" for me. I am an Aussie, and I was taken off my parents because they couldn't look after me. That was 50 years ago, and yes, I remember and so do my six sisters. We had a horrible time at a home, and no, we don't go on about it and want to sue.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll You are right, everyone should be equal, including under the law. So under the law why is it the aboriginals rights to their land is not recognised.How are things equal for the aboriginals if the govts are making Special laws for them to defeat their rights to their land & defeat their human rights.And just because you feel different about something doesn't mean the aboriginals have to feel the same way.

[barbbydoll]

I have just watched this video, 13th June. Firstly, I am disgusted by the way these people are talking. Secondly, Robbie Thorpe. We are all Indigenous to this country, not just Aboriginal people. I am Australian, born and bred here, and my ancestors were Convicts. As for True Sovereigns of the Land, I don't think so. I have done Research into this (Indigenous) for over two years, and we are all Indigenous to the land. Convicts and Aboriginal ancestors, not Immigrants etc.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll I have been researching into Australia & the rights of the aboriginal for over 30 years & I can assure you that they are the rightful sovereigns of that land.The only legal & moral way the British can have sovereignty is by treaty with the aboriginals. Its like saying a fox is from Australia becasue it was born here. It isn't it''s from Europe, but it can exist here if it can be in harmony with the native plants, animals & people.Aboriginals watin for British do this

[barbbydoll]

If you have been doing your research for over 30 years, then why haven't you found the information that I have? Hmmmm????????? Boy, have you got it wrong. So, it is ok if the Refugees come here and you are ok with that, then they take over the land and businesses our country? Yes, that is ok. Oh, I forgot, and it is ok, if they protest about what is happening in their old country, and the riots start in the streets between cultures. Yes, that sounds good.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll No....if the aboriginals are ok with the asylum seekers then it is their call as they are the rightful authority of the land & they are the rightful sovereigns of the land not QE2. It is a free country so one can protest if they want to & the British also riot in the streets. Just look at the Australian palriament for example....it is unrepresentative of Australia as it is two parties of British people having an argument about land & resources that belong to the aboriginals period.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll I have done proper research barbbydoll which delved into the legallity of the British setting up in the land of the aborginal people.Legally they could not do it without permission period.Britian knows this & so does the Queen.The Australian bar association met this year & admitted that the laws set for the aborgiinals was descrimitory & racist breaching their human rights & was making lawyers breach their codes of ethics.Caling it a legal "SILENCE" Games up barbbydoll..

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll What you see here is the aboriginals kicking out at the corrupt governments that have continually used the peoples money to suppress & oppress the native people.We should not support that sort of thing.The USA bar association also met with aboriginal leaders regarding their legal rights to their land.The meeting was convened by the US Ambassador to Australia (Bliech).Unless Australia treaties with the aboriginals they are the sovereigns & authority of the land legally and morally.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler When it comes to money and jobs, don't always blame the Government for these people being unfortunate. We give them money,offer them the opportunity to help themselves. We don't force them to drink and waste their money and live like they do. They have to help themselves. My brother is in the army and they are forever going to outback towns and fixing houses and helping out. Also, have the Aboriginal people said sorry for the Settlers that they killed. NO! Right back at you.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll I have said it a miilion times & I will say it again....you cannot give what you do not own...period. The aboriginal have only needed one thing & that is the ownership & say over THEIR land. Australia is deliberately denying the abgoriginals true ownership rights over their land.Australia is acting like a gang of thugs standing over someone elses property & the world is seeing this.Australia needs to wake up & stop being in denial.Educate yourself barbbydoll & stop being ignorant.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler I am educated, and are you. Have you got qualifications, or do you just listen to what "you" hear. If this subject is so important to you and other Aboriginal people, why don't they try and educate themselves, instead of whinging. Like I said, they destroy houses which are paid for by the Government, time after time. Have you seen the amount of money given to the by the "THUGS"? Millions. What do you want? Money isn't going to solve things. Just go on more booze.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll Being racist & ignorant will not solve anything for them or for you. Why do you stereotype the aboriginals. The only people I hear whinging on tv all the time is us whote fellas not the aboriginals. Whether you like it or not barbbydoll the aboriginals are the true owners of the land & nothing can change that fact.Sticking your head in the sand will not help anything.Us white people are destroying things all the time...with the environmental destruction at the top of the list.

[barbbydoll]

@thegamblergambler Hear you go again. The word "Racist" comes up every time we "Whities" make a comment. As for whinging, do you watch Insight, Q&A, and shows on SBS regarding Aboriginals and how badly they have been treated. I will find one that was on SBS and show you how they call us whities and other names which I can't put on here.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll It is not just the aboriginals that need education. It is white people that need the most education as we are ignorant & think we are too smart when we are not.We need to educate to stop racism & sterotypeing people becasue of their race or skin color barbbydoll.....we need to be bigger than that.

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll Why would the aboriginals be sorry for defending their land against hostile invading forces who had no legal right from Britian to invade. If someone came into your house killing, raping & pillaging you wouldn't be apologising to any criminal you killed. The aboriginals have nothing to apologise or feel guitly about as they did nothing wrong but to live on their land. Maybe one day Australians will realise this & stop the racism against these people.Please educate yourself about this

[thegamblergambler]

@barbbydoll I can't beleive that you are 56 barbbydoll & you do not know about the aboriginals & their bad treatment & history.Also your history. Australia's history.The aboriginals helped themselves for over 40000 years without anyones help.All they need is their human rightts to their land nothing more or less.They can work it out for themselves from that point.Australia needs to get its hands off of property that does not belong to it.Its called stealing barbbydoll-ignorance is bliss.

[greyfiend]

Awsome action! Good on you guys!!

[OverReactorBand]

Great to see the Black Mob claiming back their stolen sovereignty, this was a great action. FREE THE REFUGEES!

[ktrel54]

@OverReactorBand Ahh Zeke, you and your politics.

[coit7]

Overthrow the bastards!! go Origine!!! givem whatfor!!

[jimbriggsofOz]

Great action ! keep it coming folks ! Showstink demonstrates the typical ignorance that is perpetuated by opportunist polies and the the mainstream media, PS how can a apply for a passport ?

[showlink]

@jimbriggsofOz I see you didn't send you message to me directly coward. Are you indigenous or have indigenous relatives - I doubt it. Take your white guilt elsewhere.

[drseymour]

Nice work, good on you folks. True Aussie spirit (and human nature in general) is to give a hand to someone who needs help, not turn your back and send them packing.

Too many of us have forgotten this, and politicians always score cheap, easy points by manipulating our fears.

'Compassion' is not a dirty word.

[breyburn]

Good action. makes us think. Interesting comment from IdunCarelesSn00b given the fact that Anglo-Australia was established in 1788 as a penal colony for "criminals" from the United Kingdom. Happy Reconciliation Week 2010.

[showlink]

Lunatics. Not all indigenous people agree with this lot. Border protection and immigration is an issue that affects all Australians. Your token gesture of handing out fake indigenous passports is an embarrassment.

[showlink]

Lunatics. Not all indigenous people agree with this lot. Border protection and immigration is an issue for all Australians.

[jorjajorja]

Important issue, great action and awesome vid!

Thanks so much

[showlink]

@jorjajorja Of course indigenous issues are important but Indigenous issues and issues concerning border security and immigration should not be blended.

[thegamblergambler]

@showlink Ahhh...illegal immigration 1788 is the beginning of the problems for the aboriginals so it is relevant. These passports are being recognised by other nations...therefore recognising aboriginal nations sovereignty. Australia needs to educate itself about the rights of the aboriginals & their sovereignty as a people. There are vested interests that are trying very hard to suppress these people.

[showlink]

@thegamblergambler I come from a part aboriginal family so don't give me this rubbish. "Vested interests" would that include your own?

[thegamblergambler]

@showlink I have no vested interests. I visit so I can leave if they want. As an outsider I can see that the aboriginals are being ripped off & being treated badly. Their human rights are being breached as they are an independent people. I have no vested interest but to speak out about something that is clearly wrong & as a decent person showlink im sure you would agree.

[IdunCareLesSn00b]

They aren't persecuted they are fucking criminal free loaders escaping prison in Sri Lanka for terrorism

[dalellll]

@IdunCareLesSn00b Sri Lanka is a deeply oligarchic state, with widespread racism and long-standing practices of brutal military repression. They round up Tamils and put them in concentration camps, they perform summary executions, and carry out bombing raids on Tamil communities. And you are a stupid, credulous, racist little snob. Go to hell.

[dalellll]

@IdunCareLesSn00b This is why i shouldn't read YouTube comments. Too many racist 12-year old boys trolling everything.

[killshin]

fascinating