jimmy needs to turn the mid range on his amp down a bit its too high and makes his gibson sound too thin still not as bad as the live aid performance that was so awfull its comical
yeah i will admit i am an idiot who am i to tell page what to do and he is human so he will make a mistake from time to time but he owns most rock players today
fuck, this is by far my favourite SWTH solo, one thing about Zeppelin is that they may have hundreds of different version of the same song, so it always suprise you when you find another kick ass version. nowadays those bands who always play a song or solo exactly the same way as it was in the record bores me to death.
Hey: to any of you comparing Jimmy to Hendrix, or Jimmy to Steve Ray, go fuck yourselves. Who are you to have an opinion? I am a musician who grew up going to the Page/ Plant concerts. Almost all of them. If anybody knows the music, I do. I learned from the man how to play drums, learned to sing from watching Plant and listening. Learned drums from old home videos of Bonham that I received. I literally lived, breathed, and grew up with Zeppelin.
@JustinDavidPierce Also, who is better? None of you that's for damn sure. Hell, I grew up knowing every trick, every tip, anything you hear I know by feel and heart. Do I feel better than them? Oh hell no. But for the real answer: Jimmy Hendrix respected Plant and Page as musicians. Yes, he did know both of them before Zep. But you know what? All the guitarist respect each other and love each others styles. They are all one in the same essentially. So none of you, including me, win. Cheerio.
Let us not lose sight of the Page legacy everyone. Regardless of the chemical influences in the latter part of the 70's, Page delivered time pieces where no other guitarists had the balls nor ability to take those chances. An amazing catalog of material, the credit of assembling the greatest 4 members to a band, the best producer of his genre and above all else he developed of love and respect from his fans like no one else.
I remembered that a minute after I had posted here.
Percy said these words on 5-25-1975, the last gig in 1975, at Earls Court (on 25th May), not in Berlin 1980. Was too lazy to remove my comment, though :D
@CusterFlux sure they didn´t played at 100%, like on all europe tours, because they played this tours just as last test before there America Tours, it was like a test for the set they want to play and so on. The europ tours had a shorter set than the america tours and the songs wernet played as long as in America AND of course what is important for the sound: in europe they used smaller AMP´s... sadly we never will know how the america tour from the80s would sound.I think anyting like this solo
oh this is great, really. the frist time i heared this i thought this solo was crap. but afterward i gave it a few try, and now its on my top list of SWTH solo, i cant explain why i love it, it magic, you need to feel it yourself
oh my god i'm literally in tears, it's one of the most powerful performances of his i've ever heard, don't care bout the drugs, don't care about the notes he missed, i am just dazed by what jimmy does best and that is making this instrument speak emotions... it's much better than other solos of stairway when he was not stoned....
Yeah, you could see the obvious influence the drugs had on Page during the '77 tour. The shows were hit or miss. Some were brilliant but many were a sad cry from what Led Zep was, & that was the Greatest Band of All Time. I am glad that Page survived those years & is still alive. The Led Zep from the early 70's is beyond description, too good to put into words.
There is no such thing as the "best" guitarist. Music is an art...and Page's forte was/is playing with feeling and emotion. Page never was a technical player and all of you that are judging him on the precision of his playing etc. are missing the uniqueness of Jimmy Page...his style, his sound, his ability to get a crowd out of their seats.
@crackernumber2 why ? it does n't bother me if you like something which does not appeal to me . Bitterness toward someone simply because they are praised is just jealousy .
sounds like a once good guitar player who has ruined himself with drugs and 2 much rock n roll. Poor frail jimmy, he just coudnt keep up with keith richards
I LOVE YOU JIMMY, AND ALWAYS WILL, IM SO GLAD YOU MADE IT THROUGH ALIVE, ITS A SHAME ABOUT JOHN , ITS EASY FOR THE GO NOWHERE DO NOTHINGS OF THE WORLD TO BE JUDGEMENTAL, MOST OF WHICH HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS TO GO ON TOUR,I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU PLAY GUITAR SINCE YOU WERE FOURTEEN, I FIRST HEARD YOU WITH LEDZEPPELIN IN 1968, WHEN I LIVED IN NEW YORK. I SAW YOU PLAY IN FRANFURT GERMANY ON 06-30-1980, IM GLAD YOU ARE STILL WITH US! THANKS THE MOST BAD ASS ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME PAST TIMES.
Often times the recording sounds different than the in house sound. I have a tape of my band that was recorded off the sound board that sounds weak and thin while someone had a video camera in the audience and the sound blows you away. Completely night and day. You would think it was two totally different gigs. I imagine Pages guitar sound is coming through a channel that has minimal effects on it.
Uggghhhh!!...I realize that by 1980 Pagey was a strung out junkie.But C'MON!!! This guy was the best and most creative guitarist for years...Massive tone,live work always bordered on th edge of his ability creating magic moments.Inspired millions of guitarists (me included) and was the producer of ALL Zeppelin's output....To play like THIS a few years later ? Sounds like a bar band tackling Stairway at a frat party...Such a shame the drugs fucked him.
I think it's great. I'm sure those complaining if they were there hearing it live, loud, right in your face, you would have been impressed. Overall it's good I think. He's on key. Very soulful playing. He's just playing a little slower than normal and at times his fingers are a little "stiff" but overall, it's great. That's one thing about Page's solos. He can keep it interesting. Even after 7 minutes. He doesn't sound repetitive. He knows how to play "outside of the box" unlike most guitarists.
Why the fuck is there always debate on these videos as to who is the better guitarist? Music isn't meant to be a fucking competition, it's meant for enjoyment and for the love of playing it. So shut the fuck up with your pathetic arguments about who was better than, it's fucking lame.
Talkin bout simple chords n strumming resulting into beautiful songs is still present...if you check out the band called whitestripes, jack white makes easy music but it sounds awesome...check outthe white stripes discography if you think rock is dead!
@GDarkstar74 ask zappa to do drugs n go to the stage to play...lets talk bout it then...if you're talkin bout this being a bad solo...atleast realize one fact that you can find out who is playing this solo just by his signature guitar tone n equilizer settings...he is simply awesome...you dun have to be technically awesome to rule the world...you have to make music...it could be a simple E with an Am...it doesn matter...you need your soul, n thats it....n this guy sure did play with his soul
Some people seem to assume the way he sounded here was the way he sounded on the whole '80 tour, but this is probably the worst show on the whole tour. Most of the shows in 80 are pretty good, every one except for this one are better than the second night at Knebworth, in 80 they started sounding better again, and I imagine if they kept going the 80 tour of USA would have been musically better than 77
Heroin wasn't his friend. He was terrible by this point. BUT for those of you who think this is how he always played live, You, are a moron! Just look up anything from 70-72 before he decided to do heroin. Amazing. Of course Clapton on Heroin was fun to listen to, until he set his guitar down and gave up.....
Page is my absolute favorite. He sounds way blitzed here. lol Still like it though. After all, it was the last... Check out other shows from 1980 if you think they were "bad" in 1980. They were great in '80 99% of the time. Listen to previous STH solos too. Some guy uploaded a series of videos of 1980 STH solos.
idk why ppl critize jimmy page he sounds great but is awesome that jonh bonham was there to back him up with amazing drumming besides they saw themselves as a band not as individuals thats why they disbanded when bonzo died b/c it wouldnt have been right. LONG LIVE ROCK AND LONG LIVE LED ZEPPELIN
If I had been one of the band members that day I would have broken down in tears. However, they kept pushing on & played it through. I often wonder if anyone one of them ever told Jim just how badly the music was suffering due to drugs & drink. I wonder why as great a guitar player Jim was that he didnt care enough for their music. His playing was right on before The Hard Stuff. Dont do drugs!
Jimmy simply is the best and there's just no way to deny it! What others call sloppy is just the fact he cares a fuck for technique and puts all of his emotions in his playing...and what comes out is WAAY better than the stuff that the sticklers for the correct way of playing manage
This is terrible. Page is good and all but he must have been high as hell during this show. Regardless, Frank Zappa was WAYYYY better than Jimmy Page ever was. And you wanna talk about consuming huge amounts of drugs before and during a show?? Jerry Garcia did it and often times played for 6 or 8 hours, and didn't sound like complete shit either.
@GDarkstar74 This solo is awful. But I have to disagree. I have listened to a lot of Zappa and he IS a great guitarist. But, he was not as good as Page. This is not representative of Page's best work. Shame on him for being so high as to ruin a concert. But I have heard some lame Zappa performances too.
He was such an terrible live musician. Drugs, booze, etc are no excuse for playing badly. Play well while on them, or don't take them.
Did great things in the studio, was a revolutionary and one of the most influential guitarists of all time. But people need to stop sack-riding him so hard.
@Silverwolf90 He wasn't a terrible live musician. I saw him in 1998 when you were 8 and he played great! There is a lot of live Led Zeppelin material on YouTube. Some of it easy to find. Some of it hard to find. Page might have had bad days and sometimes does but ultimately, he played/plays great most of the time live. Now this performance of the STH solo, definitely not his best. Drugs and booze are an excuse to play badly too. Get fucking blitzed and try to improvise a solo.
Jimmy Page is a walking miracle. I have heard so many guitarist and musician that use drugs, but nobody did drugs like Page. He never ate as well. He consumed Jack Daniels, pot, cigarettes, and Heroine and the usual banana smoothies and thats really it. Yet, he jammed his ass off everynight for almost 4 hours. im glad he is off drugs and kept the dark times past him. The greatest musician ever:)
@AirJGFoLife69 I think Keith Richards did a LOT more drugs than Pagey. KR used to stay awake for a week at a time with little more than heroin and cocaine for sustenance!
I've heard him play way better. I've heard him play worse too. This solo would probably make more sense if we were there in person and high. I still like it. But I can tell he's either way high, drunk, or something. Or even tired maybe.
This is not as bad as what I see written here.The guy had a bad night but still went out and played,he could have stayed in bed and counted his money.They all sound tired,and I would too!Touring,traveling,drugs,strange women all take a toll,as we all should know,and this is what you get!have a good time folks,what else u gonna do?Enjoy havin a bad 1?
going with the flow. It has tons of great moments, although some arent executed
thru the physical body to the guitar itself, the origins of original thought and the structure is there. You can feel the pressure in releasing and framing the phrasing. There are all types of playing, all of them cant be studio tearjerkers.
If Jimmy liked it, thats what he felt and thats what matters. A good insight into the guitarists mind.
ShaeamusTOFinnigan. I agree with you. They are picking on one live solo out of how many? Obviously they don't know what Zep was all about. Experimenting live was a hit and miss. When you go out and free form you are taking risks. Like Page said, sometimes it's great sometimes it's not, and when it's not he said that maybe the audience deserved their money back but when it's on it's magical if you are in the audience hearing creativity. I am a studio guitarist and know exactly what you mean.
@glaxev Yes. I also have a home studio in which I get great quality recordings in both analog/digital. I have played on many recordings. Kid Rock is one in which the track I played guitar on has not been released yet. I play with many different musicians just to keep the fingers going in the right direction. I have put together a band recently that would fall into the Zep. category. Recorded 16 proper songs so far that are unique. It's what I (we) have been waiting for, for quite sometime.
@glaxev It sure helps. I read music, but actual notation is not used most of the time. Most musicians don't get bogged down on reading notes on a musical staff. But not all musicians approach music the same way. I have come across some that barely know the name of a chord and yet they know what they want and their ears tell them whether something is right or wrong. Most of the time they have the basic framework of a song and tell me what they are looking for. No two bands record the same way.
@maximum1954 - coming from yourself; a studio guitarist; i genuinely appreciate your acquiescence.
ps - i like your use of Page quotes. I vaguely recollect having heard, or read them before, but that notwithstanding, they kind of say it all in regards to this "Page solo is enigmatically sublime, or this Page solo sucks" debate. Theretofore coming from the man himself, helps makes the point you're relating, even more poignant, in keeping with the theme of the discussion. Slainte!
Amazing but sad. They all start out gaining brilliance and clarity from the drugs they're doing, but, eventually its the drugs doing them and this is the end result. Even like this hes better than 90% of guitarists around today. Page is getting nothing from his rythym section. That doesn't sound like Bonham or Jones with him. Who is it?
He is actually not better than 90% of guitarists today. He is probably better than 90% of guitarists in pop music, but there are so many guitarists and musicians who are absolutely great, but you have never heard them and never will because they will never be on the radio or making albums. They are regular everyday people who are also fantastic musicians. That's the reality of it. Jimmy Page wasn't that great, but he was a member of a great band.
@daverlb Listen to some Jazz/Fusion like Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, Shawn Lane, Pat Metheny, or listen to some Frank Zappa. They all improvised, that was the basis of all their music, and it sounds flawless, because those are professionals and the greatest musicians around. You could play like Jimmy Page if you picked up a guitar and practiced and jammed for 5 years or so you would be better than him. Believe me, he's not that special.
@GDarkstar74 Well then it must be mass delusion then if what you say about Jimmy Page is true...The guitar players you name along with many many others must be delusional as well because they all respect and admire JImmy Page both for his playing and creativity. Yes, Zappa is a fine player along with the others you named. So while this isn't Pages best performance, that doesn't mean he isn't one of, if not the best guitarist ever...simple as that....Have a Nice Day!
@vettezeppelin He was a very good guitarist, and for many people he's the best they've heard, or will ever hear. But all I'm saying is that....Man! Zappa just ripped it every single show, solos that Page could only play in his dreams. Most people just don't know much music, or much about music, and there's nothing wrong with that, but i'll tell you, Frank never came out and gave a bad performance like this, not even close, in fact it's the opposite.
@vettezeppelin Zappa was just consistently awesome, from the late '60s until his death, he was a few steps above all other rock music of his time. On the other hand, Metal is a whole different genre with many more technically "skilled" guitarists, and Jazz/Fusion is where you'll find the best of them all. Jimmy Page was taught guitar by John McLaughlin, and to say that he ever came anywhere close to McLaughlin is an atrocity.
@GDarkstar74 haha omg man you are really trying hard to say what you think. we read what you mean in the previous one zillion posts you made in an ehm (don't be surprised) . . . led zeppelin video.
@kogolz Heyyy, it's cool, just making a factual point here. I'm not much of a Zeppelin fan (who needs Zeppelin when you've got Zappa!), but I watched this video when somebody posted it on facebook and upon reading some of the comments, I couldn't believe how many people were praising Jimmy Page for one of the worst live solos I've ever heard. I'm just saying, if I we to judge just by this video, I, and numerous friends of mine, are WAY better guitarists than Jimmy Page. Zeppelin is pop-rock.
@GDarkstar74 To each their own! Hmm, Zeppelin or zappa Zeppelin or zappa? For me it's Zeppelin all the way! Numerous friends & you are way better than Jim? Yeah maybe. IN YOUR DREAMS! Sometimes dreams can come true. Keep practicing. Zeppelin is Pop Rock? If you do not know the diff between pop & Rock How will you ever learn to play guitar?
@GDarkstar74 now every human being in earth nows you are a Zappa fun. you are complete /clap. Reminder ..this is a Led Zeppelin (Jimy Page) post. Waiting for a reply in which you will repeat that you love Zappa :)
@kogolz I told you why I posted here. I heard the solo, and was struck and dumbfounded by this terrible abomination.....clearly Jimmy Page is a mediocre guitarist at best.
@GDarkstar74 why dont you shut the fuck up you couldnt make a guitar sound like this at your best, this was voted the best all time rock n roll solo u dumb shit, so shut your mouth your probably at home with nothing better to do you fat slob get a life nobody's perfect including you so stop with your bullshit comments if you dont like it then why are you even looking up jimmy page you fag?
@MrWildboy214 I am better than this even fucked up and wasted out of my mind. I don't know what you're talking about, but this solo sucks terribly, and you have some anger issues. Don't try to project your own problems and insecurities onto others, maybe you suck at guitar, but that's no reason to make insults and false claims over an awful guitar solo. You are ridiculous. I didn't look up jimmy page, and I wouldn't after hearing this shit, Frank Zappa is immeasurably better than this.
@MrWildboy214 I don't come down to where you work and slap the dick out of your mouth, so don't tell me how I play guitar, and don't try and tell me about music when you are awfully misinformed and musically deprived.
@GDarkstar74 pop rock led zeppelin?you don't know the differences between styles and you dare insult jimmy page.and of course you will reply saying that he is sloppy,right?that is JIMMY you motherfucker.other guitarists turn the gain as high as possible and play very fast but they actually don't press the frets with power,they also have effects and other shit.if you hear them playing in clean mode without any effects you will see that they're the worst guitarists.oh and zappa was shit,page ftw
@ledzepguitarcovers Did you think this is the first time I've heard Zeppelin? I've heard their stuff, they have some good songs; catchy songs that most anyone can play. They have an appealing style and sound, but there's nothing remotely impressive or spectacular in terms of musicianship. Their music is repetitive and unsubstantial. Page's style is twiddling and noodling with the same repetitive patterns. That's become the heart of rock 'n' roll; simplicity and conforming to popular demand.
@ledzepguitarcovers Wake up old man! What exactly do you perceive to be the truth? That Jimmy Page is a great musician? What a misconception! What a deception! Zappa can't be compared to any mediocre pop-rock guitarists, such as Jimmy Page. Zappa was a genius; Page is an overrated slouch of a musician. Now get real and stop propagating Page's mythical, non-existent greatness.
@GDarkstar74 first of all i'm not an old man,second led zep play blues and rock not pop,page has talent and more than zappa,i'm telling the truth,guitar isn't only speed it's about emotions.when you see a solo with emotion will you call it pop anf when you see a shredding solo you will say 'OMG this is fucking amazing'.and i'm not talking 'bout this solo but other previous ones.he is a master of riffs and he could a blues song from willie dixon(which he did in his first albums)and make it hisown
@ledzepguitarcovers You can measure a guitarist's playing and emotion by the way that they can invoke emotion in the listener. A Zappa solo is sublime, and at least for me, invokes strong feelings of joy and even euphoria. Page's solos are boring and quite lacking in emotion, since they are mostly just blues licks, regurgitated.
@GDarkstar74 that's the point that no one of the two of us hadn't understood.at least for YOU.the thing you have just said.page for m isn't boring,he is fucking amazing and he express my feelings so that's why i like his playing
@ledzepguitarcovers Furthermore, Zappa wasn't a "speed" guitarist. If ever there was a guitarist who could feed off of pure emotion, it was Zappa. He was more well studied and versed in music than Jimmy Page, and therefore he was more talented in his ability to express his emotions through soloing. Anyone who is knowledgeable in music can hear and feel the difference in emotion, the driving force behind a melodic, expressive solo, rather than emotionless regurgitation of blues licks and scales.
@GDarkstar74 zappa had feeling and you have to admit that page had feeling too,that's a true point,not only in his solos but also in his non-solo parts of a song.i don't know if he had more or less feeling all that i know.zappa was a bit sloppy on some nights and that's thruth.page also was sloppy in some nights,that's a truth too.and page was a blues guitarist
@GDarkstar74 Besides it's...rock dude.relax and listen.i don't want classical style musicians like zappa but something more rock/blues.you talk about musical abilities in emotion and stuff but as i said before page did that too.and he was way more a rocker than zappa,that's a big true.he was able to make you happy,sad,excited and angry with his songs.that's what is rock all about
@GDarkstar74 yes he was one of the best,that's a big true too.anyway i'm happy we found an end at this youtube debate!oh and i play guitar,do you play guitar or teaching music,cause on a previous post you said that you know music.i know music too,so i would like to learn if you play an instrument too.
@ledzepguitarcovers Well I'm not an idiot, as you seem to assume I am, and you apparently don't have a fantastic understanding of music, or the art of improvisation. To play an instrument, and specifically to improvise, is to spontaneously express musical ideas, feelings and such. The quality of a musician is their ability and proficiency in employing the instrument as a means of expression.
I sure hope this was the last song of the night?It sounds like it's bed time for Jimmy......God Bless him....But his playing is that of a 2 year old with a broken arm.
What an inane comment,dewd. Ok man, so if this is the 'standard'.. then I reckon that there are now millions, and millions of adolescent and adult, electric guitar players in the world..that would LOVE to be able to play as well as a 2yr old with a broken arm.
Jimmy Page has been my favorite guitar player for over 10 years.thank god i've seen vids and heard him at his best cause if this was the first thing i ever heard from him i would definatley say this guy sucks,big time.allthough it is some what satisfying to know that the greatest guitar player ever can still blow it. it makes me feel better about my bad gigs.
Yes,Page was battling it out, out there onstage. By 1980 he had been a heavy H user for over 3 yrs. Notwithstanding, this solo is DRIPPING with FEEL. It gets better & better as each moment goes by. LISTEN to it, amigo! He really lays down some WICKEDLY delicate passages, and poignant , exquisite phrases. This is NOT rehearsed! It is AD-LIB! He's making it up for fuck sakes! WHO does that?? What other guitarist reinvents himself EVERY night?
I cannot believe all the comments i am reading, worshiping a man for playing a completely awful solo, shameful to the band. Shaemus you are ignorant. I recommend you listen to some Zappa solos. You wanna hear genius, live, the greatest ripping guitar solos in all of rock music, listen to a live Zappa solo. Jimmy Page is complete garbage in comparison, no offense to him or you, but it's true.
@ShaemusTOFinnigan YOU totally get it about Pages playing here. I have always liked the fact the Page isn't perfect. He doesn't play the solo over and over again to get something polished to an inch of it's life. Page clearly isn't at his best here yet there is still something brilliant going on...its like he is trying to get something out of the guitar that never came before...it's not perfect but certainly unique and tragically brilliant. I understand if others don't get it..but I love it
If I remember correctly, the concert was scheduled earlier in the tour, but the roof of the Deutschlandhalle was having safety problems. They rescheduled the Berlin concert to the end of the tour and put it in the Eissporthalle. The band wasn't in top form that night (I think they started partying a bit too early for the final show of the tour). At one point people began booing and whistling at Page because he was loosing track of his playing.
It was only a year before this, that Zeppelin were forced to play 2 concerts at Knebworth instead of 1 because almost 500,000 fans wanted to see them.
When Zeppelin put concert tickets for sale they sold out in minutes.
I think They all know that the end was near, as Bonham Life, as John Lenon, and many other rock stars of the 80s, so this was the time Satan has for them,....
@mrZoso78 they were not done my friend
gjrock70 1 month ago
They where done by '80 at least jimmy and robert. Jpj and bonzo should have done a side project
MrZoso78 2 months ago
jimmy needs to turn the mid range on his amp down a bit its too high and makes his gibson sound too thin still not as bad as the live aid performance that was so awfull its comical
shredmaster100 2 months ago
@shredmaster100 Shut up, moron. telling Jimmy Page how to work his amp is like telling Van Gogh what type of paints to use, you fucking tool.
MyAccount4TrollingU 1 month ago 3
yeah i will admit i am an idiot who am i to tell page what to do and he is human so he will make a mistake from time to time but he owns most rock players today
shredmaster100 1 month ago
fuck, this is by far my favourite SWTH solo, one thing about Zeppelin is that they may have hundreds of different version of the same song, so it always suprise you when you find another kick ass version. nowadays those bands who always play a song or solo exactly the same way as it was in the record bores me to death.
MsBruce1993 2 months ago
@MsBruce1993 Don't listen to nowadays bands, you can't find anything "interesting".
Pismenost 2 months ago
Hey: to any of you comparing Jimmy to Hendrix, or Jimmy to Steve Ray, go fuck yourselves. Who are you to have an opinion? I am a musician who grew up going to the Page/ Plant concerts. Almost all of them. If anybody knows the music, I do. I learned from the man how to play drums, learned to sing from watching Plant and listening. Learned drums from old home videos of Bonham that I received. I literally lived, breathed, and grew up with Zeppelin.
JustinDavidPierce 5 months ago
@JustinDavidPierce Also, who is better? None of you that's for damn sure. Hell, I grew up knowing every trick, every tip, anything you hear I know by feel and heart. Do I feel better than them? Oh hell no. But for the real answer: Jimmy Hendrix respected Plant and Page as musicians. Yes, he did know both of them before Zep. But you know what? All the guitarist respect each other and love each others styles. They are all one in the same essentially. So none of you, including me, win. Cheerio.
JustinDavidPierce 5 months ago
Where can the whole song be found?
millerhighlife2112 5 months ago
Wheres the love button?
millerhighlife2112 5 months ago
MASTERS! THAT´S WHAT MATTERS...
DiablillodeOz 6 months ago
Let us not lose sight of the Page legacy everyone. Regardless of the chemical influences in the latter part of the 70's, Page delivered time pieces where no other guitarists had the balls nor ability to take those chances. An amazing catalog of material, the credit of assembling the greatest 4 members to a band, the best producer of his genre and above all else he developed of love and respect from his fans like no one else.
gjrock70 6 months ago
Herion is poison.....
bigcoolviking 7 months ago 4
So this is the last of what they played...
I missed it by 13 years...
Poor me.
trunkatedpig 7 months ago
Percy Plant at the end of the gig:
"That's the last one, that's the last one..."
I wish he wouldn't said that :´(
what an awesome solo, indeed!
ZiSt1989 7 months ago
@ZiSt1989 He didn't said it. He said after The Rain Song that "this is the last concert so...:" Bu he of course meant the last gig on that tour.
69Bloodsucker 6 months ago
@69Bloodsucker
I remembered that a minute after I had posted here.
Percy said these words on 5-25-1975, the last gig in 1975, at Earls Court (on 25th May), not in Berlin 1980. Was too lazy to remove my comment, though :D
'that's the last one that's the last one...'
ZiSt1989 6 months ago
oh, god, check if he's ok....maybe he vomited in his sleep....
francescaemc2 7 months ago
I was at this show - little did I know how historic it would become
thedave108 7 months ago
Glad to finally hear this, but clearly they weren't firing on all cylinders by this point.
CusterFlux 8 months ago
@CusterFlux sure they didn´t played at 100%, like on all europe tours, because they played this tours just as last test before there America Tours, it was like a test for the set they want to play and so on. The europ tours had a shorter set than the america tours and the songs wernet played as long as in America AND of course what is important for the sound: in europe they used smaller AMP´s... sadly we never will know how the america tour from the80s would sound.I think anyting like this solo
ChrisSchokofreak 8 months ago
the last concerts of Led Zeppelin. can you feel it people?
zzy66613 8 months ago
oh this is great, really. the frist time i heared this i thought this solo was crap. but afterward i gave it a few try, and now its on my top list of SWTH solo, i cant explain why i love it, it magic, you need to feel it yourself
MsBruce1993 8 months ago
oh my god i'm literally in tears, it's one of the most powerful performances of his i've ever heard, don't care bout the drugs, don't care about the notes he missed, i am just dazed by what jimmy does best and that is making this instrument speak emotions... it's much better than other solos of stairway when he was not stoned....
413Kristianna 9 months ago
it's a little ironic that pagey goes all out on the last stairway to heaven ever.. how could he have possibly known?
TheDrummerTy 10 months ago 12
@TheDrummerTy you do know that they preformed it in 2007?
DonTheTurtleDude 2 months ago
@DonTheTurtleDude It was kind of a joke.. never the same without Bonzo.
TheDrummerTy 2 months ago
@DonTheTurtleDude It was the Last Performance as Led Zeppelin:/ Ironic, He knows some shit
classicguitarriffs 2 weeks ago
Yeah, you could see the obvious influence the drugs had on Page during the '77 tour. The shows were hit or miss. Some were brilliant but many were a sad cry from what Led Zep was, & that was the Greatest Band of All Time. I am glad that Page survived those years & is still alive. The Led Zep from the early 70's is beyond description, too good to put into words.
jjp4mma 11 months ago
There is no such thing as the "best" guitarist. Music is an art...and Page's forte was/is playing with feeling and emotion. Page never was a technical player and all of you that are judging him on the precision of his playing etc. are missing the uniqueness of Jimmy Page...his style, his sound, his ability to get a crowd out of their seats.
davidscott001 11 months ago 3
it makes me gag how people think page is soooooooooo great. he was good but sloppy.
crackernumber2 11 months ago
@crackernumber2 why ? it does n't bother me if you like something which does not appeal to me . Bitterness toward someone simply because they are praised is just jealousy .
RisingSon011 10 months ago
@RisingSon011 how is that bitter, it is how i FEEL. Your just mad i dont think page is god.
crackernumber2 10 months ago
@crackernumber2 listen to the live version of this from "the song remains the same"
TheDHirt 2 months ago
sounds like a once good guitar player who has ruined himself with drugs and 2 much rock n roll. Poor frail jimmy, he just coudnt keep up with keith richards
crackernumber2 11 months ago
I LOVE YOU JIMMY, AND ALWAYS WILL, IM SO GLAD YOU MADE IT THROUGH ALIVE, ITS A SHAME ABOUT JOHN , ITS EASY FOR THE GO NOWHERE DO NOTHINGS OF THE WORLD TO BE JUDGEMENTAL, MOST OF WHICH HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS TO GO ON TOUR,I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU PLAY GUITAR SINCE YOU WERE FOURTEEN, I FIRST HEARD YOU WITH LEDZEPPELIN IN 1968, WHEN I LIVED IN NEW YORK. I SAW YOU PLAY IN FRANFURT GERMANY ON 06-30-1980, IM GLAD YOU ARE STILL WITH US! THANKS THE MOST BAD ASS ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME PAST TIMES.
hounddogdrifter 1 year ago
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hounddogdrifter 1 year ago
Wow, it's as he had seen coming what would happen the 25/09/80 and do his final fireworks. Also, ITOTD title does this.
Alas, their use of drugs after '75 began to really kill some of their skill. Imagine this played with the fluency shown on the years '72-'75.
wotajared 1 year ago
the last stairway to heaven as a orginal band... i cant beleive it
nonamesleftsigh 1 year ago
page is still jammin way to go Jimmy!!
MrRokinrob 1 year ago
Often times the recording sounds different than the in house sound. I have a tape of my band that was recorded off the sound board that sounds weak and thin while someone had a video camera in the audience and the sound blows you away. Completely night and day. You would think it was two totally different gigs. I imagine Pages guitar sound is coming through a channel that has minimal effects on it.
doable1 1 year ago
Uggghhhh!!...I realize that by 1980 Pagey was a strung out junkie.But C'MON!!! This guy was the best and most creative guitarist for years...Massive tone,live work always bordered on th edge of his ability creating magic moments.Inspired millions of guitarists (me included) and was the producer of ALL Zeppelin's output....To play like THIS a few years later ? Sounds like a bar band tackling Stairway at a frat party...Such a shame the drugs fucked him.
johnnyd63 1 year ago
I think it's great. I'm sure those complaining if they were there hearing it live, loud, right in your face, you would have been impressed. Overall it's good I think. He's on key. Very soulful playing. He's just playing a little slower than normal and at times his fingers are a little "stiff" but overall, it's great. That's one thing about Page's solos. He can keep it interesting. Even after 7 minutes. He doesn't sound repetitive. He knows how to play "outside of the box" unlike most guitarists.
LedWilde 1 year ago
oh jesus o.O
the solo almost got the durance of the entire studio record of Stairway.
ZiSt1989 1 year ago
Ele é um Deus da guitarra. Ajudou a formar o DNA do Rock e da guitarra.
GRATO.
jc19641 1 year ago
Why the fuck is there always debate on these videos as to who is the better guitarist? Music isn't meant to be a fucking competition, it's meant for enjoyment and for the love of playing it. So shut the fuck up with your pathetic arguments about who was better than, it's fucking lame.
313erad 1 year ago 22
Talkin bout simple chords n strumming resulting into beautiful songs is still present...if you check out the band called whitestripes, jack white makes easy music but it sounds awesome...check outthe white stripes discography if you think rock is dead!
slashette86 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 ask zappa to do drugs n go to the stage to play...lets talk bout it then...if you're talkin bout this being a bad solo...atleast realize one fact that you can find out who is playing this solo just by his signature guitar tone n equilizer settings...he is simply awesome...you dun have to be technically awesome to rule the world...you have to make music...it could be a simple E with an Am...it doesn matter...you need your soul, n thats it....n this guy sure did play with his soul
slashette86 1 year ago
0:23 to 0:31 sounds way to much like d yer maker, i wonder why?
FaWkInGsErIoUs 1 year ago
jimmy page is god
sebyseby34 1 year ago 2
I NEED 5 SHOTGUNS.
FaWkInGsErIoUs 1 year ago
Yes there are some good concert in 80, i like mannheim.
Anyway we have to accept there were more jimmy, but now I'm startinting to love his 80's sound, of course slower but very emotional.
WTF pull out the video "Slash vs Jimmy", Slash is talent, and i like his creations, but Jimmy is 3 steps up together with Jimi
lobiba0 1 year ago
Some people seem to assume the way he sounded here was the way he sounded on the whole '80 tour, but this is probably the worst show on the whole tour. Most of the shows in 80 are pretty good, every one except for this one are better than the second night at Knebworth, in 80 they started sounding better again, and I imagine if they kept going the 80 tour of USA would have been musically better than 77
DavidVIIIcool 1 year ago
its a good solo but man ist sloppy kinda
wwefanhardyboys 1 year ago
@wwefanhardyboys
you sohuld be surprised he can play like that while hes high....
FaWkInGsErIoUs 1 year ago
Just a shadow of his former self at this point.
leddhed 1 year ago
Heroin wasn't his friend. He was terrible by this point. BUT for those of you who think this is how he always played live, You, are a moron! Just look up anything from 70-72 before he decided to do heroin. Amazing. Of course Clapton on Heroin was fun to listen to, until he set his guitar down and gave up.....
elviszeppelin 1 year ago
@elviszeppelin you have to admit some of the 1980 solos are pretty damn good.
munich, zurich and bremen are awesome
Matthew9444 1 year ago
crazy it was 30 years ago today.....
soulpower2001 1 year ago 2
I think somebody slowed it down. idk the drums sound fine though
amast3rMind69 1 year ago
Page is my absolute favorite. He sounds way blitzed here. lol Still like it though. After all, it was the last... Check out other shows from 1980 if you think they were "bad" in 1980. They were great in '80 99% of the time. Listen to previous STH solos too. Some guy uploaded a series of videos of 1980 STH solos.
LedWilde 1 year ago 2
idk why ppl critize jimmy page he sounds great but is awesome that jonh bonham was there to back him up with amazing drumming besides they saw themselves as a band not as individuals thats why they disbanded when bonzo died b/c it wouldnt have been right. LONG LIVE ROCK AND LONG LIVE LED ZEPPELIN
TheExlord 1 year ago
If I had been one of the band members that day I would have broken down in tears. However, they kept pushing on & played it through. I often wonder if anyone one of them ever told Jim just how badly the music was suffering due to drugs & drink. I wonder why as great a guitar player Jim was that he didnt care enough for their music. His playing was right on before The Hard Stuff. Dont do drugs!
JimmyPagesSoloLover 1 year ago
he rocked everyone that was in that concert!!!
TheExlord 1 year ago
Jimmy simply is the best and there's just no way to deny it! What others call sloppy is just the fact he cares a fuck for technique and puts all of his emotions in his playing...and what comes out is WAAY better than the stuff that the sticklers for the correct way of playing manage
Jimmy you ROCK
JVoH4god 1 year ago
@JVoH4god Jimmy simply is the best
JimmyPagesSoloLover 1 year ago
Fuck it! Jimmy is the best ! and i think this solo is awesome so screw you all you HATERS!!! >:p
FcBarcaman1193 1 year ago
Friggin bad ass!
FcBarcaman1193 1 year ago
This is terrible. Page is good and all but he must have been high as hell during this show. Regardless, Frank Zappa was WAYYYY better than Jimmy Page ever was. And you wanna talk about consuming huge amounts of drugs before and during a show?? Jerry Garcia did it and often times played for 6 or 8 hours, and didn't sound like complete shit either.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 This solo is awful. But I have to disagree. I have listened to a lot of Zappa and he IS a great guitarist. But, he was not as good as Page. This is not representative of Page's best work. Shame on him for being so high as to ruin a concert. But I have heard some lame Zappa performances too.
TonyDollard 1 year ago
@TonyDollard Zappa and Page are not comparable. Zappa was immeasurably better.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 lol
wwefanhardyboys 1 year ago
He was such an terrible live musician. Drugs, booze, etc are no excuse for playing badly. Play well while on them, or don't take them.
Did great things in the studio, was a revolutionary and one of the most influential guitarists of all time. But people need to stop sack-riding him so hard.
Silverwolf90 1 year ago 2
@Silverwolf90 He wasn't a terrible live musician. I saw him in 1998 when you were 8 and he played great! There is a lot of live Led Zeppelin material on YouTube. Some of it easy to find. Some of it hard to find. Page might have had bad days and sometimes does but ultimately, he played/plays great most of the time live. Now this performance of the STH solo, definitely not his best. Drugs and booze are an excuse to play badly too. Get fucking blitzed and try to improvise a solo.
LedWilde 1 year ago
He's just not very good.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 Ha ha ha. Okay, kid. ;)
LedWilde 1 year ago 2
he was a gift from god
Danmanis01 2 years ago
no, he is God.
LedZeppelinisgod100 1 year ago 13
Jimmy Page is a walking miracle. I have heard so many guitarist and musician that use drugs, but nobody did drugs like Page. He never ate as well. He consumed Jack Daniels, pot, cigarettes, and Heroine and the usual banana smoothies and thats really it. Yet, he jammed his ass off everynight for almost 4 hours. im glad he is off drugs and kept the dark times past him. The greatest musician ever:)
AirJGFoLife69 2 years ago 33
@AirJGFoLife69 You forgot to add the sloppiest playing ,and most shit guitar tone ever
cast390 1 year ago
@AirJGFoLife69 I think Keith Richards did a LOT more drugs than Pagey. KR used to stay awake for a week at a time with little more than heroin and cocaine for sustenance!
davidscott001 11 months ago
@davidscott001 in the end it'll just be Keith Richards and the cockroaches... sitting all alone.
seanmjh 10 months ago 5
my birthday. its weird that zeps last concert was they same day as the yardbirds last concert and that theyre both on my birthday
thenobs123 2 years ago
thats pretty damn cool actually.....but also kinda sad.
LedZeppelinisgod100 1 year ago
yeah, bitter sweet
thenobs123 1 year ago
I've heard him play way better. I've heard him play worse too. This solo would probably make more sense if we were there in person and high. I still like it. But I can tell he's either way high, drunk, or something. Or even tired maybe.
MrDrProfessorJrMD 2 years ago 2
But it was the last...
MrDrProfessorJrMD 2 years ago
It's interesting to hear what Page does when out of it. It almost sounds like funky reggae sometimes.
Dearolor 2 years ago
The Trampled Underfoot solo from this Berlin show was one of his best. Worth seeking out.
belfastest 2 years ago 2
This is not as bad as what I see written here.The guy had a bad night but still went out and played,he could have stayed in bed and counted his money.They all sound tired,and I would too!Touring,traveling,drugs,strange women all take a toll,as we all should know,and this is what you get!have a good time folks,what else u gonna do?Enjoy havin a bad 1?
towncarguy04 2 years ago 3
dont get me wrong, i love jimmy page like hes a member of my family. but this is terrible, it sounds like hes messing up on guitar hero.
give me a thumbs down if you want but i still think that hes the best guitarist of all time.
GoRedSox1224 2 years ago
This solo is more of a jam session type
going with the flow. It has tons of great moments, although some arent executed
thru the physical body to the guitar itself, the origins of original thought and the structure is there. You can feel the pressure in releasing and framing the phrasing. There are all types of playing, all of them cant be studio tearjerkers.
If Jimmy liked it, thats what he felt and thats what matters. A good insight into the guitarists mind.
stellarbright 2 years ago
ShaeamusTOFinnigan. I agree with you. They are picking on one live solo out of how many? Obviously they don't know what Zep was all about. Experimenting live was a hit and miss. When you go out and free form you are taking risks. Like Page said, sometimes it's great sometimes it's not, and when it's not he said that maybe the audience deserved their money back but when it's on it's magical if you are in the audience hearing creativity. I am a studio guitarist and know exactly what you mean.
maximum1954 2 years ago
@maximum1954 you a session guitarist then ?
glaxev 2 years ago
@glaxev Yes. I also have a home studio in which I get great quality recordings in both analog/digital. I have played on many recordings. Kid Rock is one in which the track I played guitar on has not been released yet. I play with many different musicians just to keep the fingers going in the right direction. I have put together a band recently that would fall into the Zep. category. Recorded 16 proper songs so far that are unique. It's what I (we) have been waiting for, for quite sometime.
maximum1954 2 years ago
@maximum1954 yep i do, was kind of interested getting into session guitar.
Don't you first have to learn how to read music ?
glaxev 2 years ago
@glaxev It sure helps. I read music, but actual notation is not used most of the time. Most musicians don't get bogged down on reading notes on a musical staff. But not all musicians approach music the same way. I have come across some that barely know the name of a chord and yet they know what they want and their ears tell them whether something is right or wrong. Most of the time they have the basic framework of a song and tell me what they are looking for. No two bands record the same way.
maximum1954 2 years ago
@glaxev You play?
maximum1954 2 years ago
@maximum1954 - coming from yourself; a studio guitarist; i genuinely appreciate your acquiescence.
ps - i like your use of Page quotes. I vaguely recollect having heard, or read them before, but that notwithstanding, they kind of say it all in regards to this "Page solo is enigmatically sublime, or this Page solo sucks" debate. Theretofore coming from the man himself, helps makes the point you're relating, even more poignant, in keeping with the theme of the discussion. Slainte!
ShaemusTOFinnigan 1 year ago
Amazing but sad. They all start out gaining brilliance and clarity from the drugs they're doing, but, eventually its the drugs doing them and this is the end result. Even like this hes better than 90% of guitarists around today. Page is getting nothing from his rythym section. That doesn't sound like Bonham or Jones with him. Who is it?
daverlb 2 years ago
@daverlb
He is actually not better than 90% of guitarists today. He is probably better than 90% of guitarists in pop music, but there are so many guitarists and musicians who are absolutely great, but you have never heard them and never will because they will never be on the radio or making albums. They are regular everyday people who are also fantastic musicians. That's the reality of it. Jimmy Page wasn't that great, but he was a member of a great band.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Give me some name of guitarist with a better creativity of Page,i agree Page it's not a best guitarist on stage,but he was very good at least...
AZEIDJSKSQMM 1 year ago
@daverlb Listen to some Jazz/Fusion like Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, Shawn Lane, Pat Metheny, or listen to some Frank Zappa. They all improvised, that was the basis of all their music, and it sounds flawless, because those are professionals and the greatest musicians around. You could play like Jimmy Page if you picked up a guitar and practiced and jammed for 5 years or so you would be better than him. Believe me, he's not that special.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 Well then it must be mass delusion then if what you say about Jimmy Page is true...The guitar players you name along with many many others must be delusional as well because they all respect and admire JImmy Page both for his playing and creativity. Yes, Zappa is a fine player along with the others you named. So while this isn't Pages best performance, that doesn't mean he isn't one of, if not the best guitarist ever...simple as that....Have a Nice Day!
vettezeppelin 1 year ago 2
@vettezeppelin He was a very good guitarist, and for many people he's the best they've heard, or will ever hear. But all I'm saying is that....Man! Zappa just ripped it every single show, solos that Page could only play in his dreams. Most people just don't know much music, or much about music, and there's nothing wrong with that, but i'll tell you, Frank never came out and gave a bad performance like this, not even close, in fact it's the opposite.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@vettezeppelin Zappa was just consistently awesome, from the late '60s until his death, he was a few steps above all other rock music of his time. On the other hand, Metal is a whole different genre with many more technically "skilled" guitarists, and Jazz/Fusion is where you'll find the best of them all. Jimmy Page was taught guitar by John McLaughlin, and to say that he ever came anywhere close to McLaughlin is an atrocity.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 haha omg man you are really trying hard to say what you think. we read what you mean in the previous one zillion posts you made in an ehm (don't be surprised) . . . led zeppelin video.
kogolz 1 year ago
@kogolz Heyyy, it's cool, just making a factual point here. I'm not much of a Zeppelin fan (who needs Zeppelin when you've got Zappa!), but I watched this video when somebody posted it on facebook and upon reading some of the comments, I couldn't believe how many people were praising Jimmy Page for one of the worst live solos I've ever heard. I'm just saying, if I we to judge just by this video, I, and numerous friends of mine, are WAY better guitarists than Jimmy Page. Zeppelin is pop-rock.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 To each their own! Hmm, Zeppelin or zappa Zeppelin or zappa? For me it's Zeppelin all the way! Numerous friends & you are way better than Jim? Yeah maybe. IN YOUR DREAMS! Sometimes dreams can come true. Keep practicing. Zeppelin is Pop Rock? If you do not know the diff between pop & Rock How will you ever learn to play guitar?
JimmyPagesSoloLover 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 now every human being in earth nows you are a Zappa fun. you are complete /clap. Reminder ..this is a Led Zeppelin (Jimy Page) post. Waiting for a reply in which you will repeat that you love Zappa :)
kogolz 1 year ago
@kogolz I told you why I posted here. I heard the solo, and was struck and dumbfounded by this terrible abomination.....clearly Jimmy Page is a mediocre guitarist at best.
FRANK ZAPPA IS THE BEST!
;)
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 hahahaha!!! yeah but Frank Zappa vs Johnas Brothers??? emh this is getting tougher now right?
kogolz 1 year ago
@kogolz EEEEEEEHHHHHH.....that's a tough one!
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 why dont you shut the fuck up you couldnt make a guitar sound like this at your best, this was voted the best all time rock n roll solo u dumb shit, so shut your mouth your probably at home with nothing better to do you fat slob get a life nobody's perfect including you so stop with your bullshit comments if you dont like it then why are you even looking up jimmy page you fag?
MrWildboy214 1 year ago
@MrWildboy214 I am better than this even fucked up and wasted out of my mind. I don't know what you're talking about, but this solo sucks terribly, and you have some anger issues. Don't try to project your own problems and insecurities onto others, maybe you suck at guitar, but that's no reason to make insults and false claims over an awful guitar solo. You are ridiculous. I didn't look up jimmy page, and I wouldn't after hearing this shit, Frank Zappa is immeasurably better than this.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@MrWildboy214 I don't come down to where you work and slap the dick out of your mouth, so don't tell me how I play guitar, and don't try and tell me about music when you are awfully misinformed and musically deprived.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
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GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 i like jimmy yea this solo sucked only cus of drugs :/
wwefanhardyboys 1 year ago
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GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 pop rock led zeppelin?you don't know the differences between styles and you dare insult jimmy page.and of course you will reply saying that he is sloppy,right?that is JIMMY you motherfucker.other guitarists turn the gain as high as possible and play very fast but they actually don't press the frets with power,they also have effects and other shit.if you hear them playing in clean mode without any effects you will see that they're the worst guitarists.oh and zappa was shit,page ftw
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 who told that making music is only speed?but if you want speed and emotion from page i have something for you:
Dazed And Confused TSRTS
Stairway to heaven TSRTS 1973.is that a bad performance?xD
the song remains the same TSRTS 73
Since i've been loving you TSRTS 73
No Quarter TSRTS 1973
Since I've Been Loving You(again) Osaka 1971
Whole Lotta Love 1970
and stufff.page is better.and here's your mistake.you heard a bad performance and you said "oh he's shit.zappa is better.
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers Did you think this is the first time I've heard Zeppelin? I've heard their stuff, they have some good songs; catchy songs that most anyone can play. They have an appealing style and sound, but there's nothing remotely impressive or spectacular in terms of musicianship. Their music is repetitive and unsubstantial. Page's style is twiddling and noodling with the same repetitive patterns. That's become the heart of rock 'n' roll; simplicity and conforming to popular demand.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 continue of the previous mail: zappa can't be compared with page end of story so STFU and realise the truth ok?
now go to bed kid
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers Wake up old man! What exactly do you perceive to be the truth? That Jimmy Page is a great musician? What a misconception! What a deception! Zappa can't be compared to any mediocre pop-rock guitarists, such as Jimmy Page. Zappa was a genius; Page is an overrated slouch of a musician. Now get real and stop propagating Page's mythical, non-existent greatness.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 first of all i'm not an old man,second led zep play blues and rock not pop,page has talent and more than zappa,i'm telling the truth,guitar isn't only speed it's about emotions.when you see a solo with emotion will you call it pop anf when you see a shredding solo you will say 'OMG this is fucking amazing'.and i'm not talking 'bout this solo but other previous ones.he is a master of riffs and he could a blues song from willie dixon(which he did in his first albums)and make it hisown
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers You can measure a guitarist's playing and emotion by the way that they can invoke emotion in the listener. A Zappa solo is sublime, and at least for me, invokes strong feelings of joy and even euphoria. Page's solos are boring and quite lacking in emotion, since they are mostly just blues licks, regurgitated.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 that's the point that no one of the two of us hadn't understood.at least for YOU.the thing you have just said.page for m isn't boring,he is fucking amazing and he express my feelings so that's why i like his playing
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 Srys,stfu,listen since i ve been loving you from Long Beach arena 25/07/72 and the emotion exist...
AZEIDJSKSQMM 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers Furthermore, Zappa wasn't a "speed" guitarist. If ever there was a guitarist who could feed off of pure emotion, it was Zappa. He was more well studied and versed in music than Jimmy Page, and therefore he was more talented in his ability to express his emotions through soloing. Anyone who is knowledgeable in music can hear and feel the difference in emotion, the driving force behind a melodic, expressive solo, rather than emotionless regurgitation of blues licks and scales.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 zappa had feeling and you have to admit that page had feeling too,that's a true point,not only in his solos but also in his non-solo parts of a song.i don't know if he had more or less feeling all that i know.zappa was a bit sloppy on some nights and that's thruth.page also was sloppy in some nights,that's a truth too.and page was a blues guitarist
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 Besides it's...rock dude.relax and listen.i don't want classical style musicians like zappa but something more rock/blues.you talk about musical abilities in emotion and stuff but as i said before page did that too.and he was way more a rocker than zappa,that's a big true.he was able to make you happy,sad,excited and angry with his songs.that's what is rock all about
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers I agree with that. But it's just my knowledgeable opinion that as a guitar soloist Zappa was one of the best.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 yes he was one of the best,that's a big true too.anyway i'm happy we found an end at this youtube debate!oh and i play guitar,do you play guitar or teaching music,cause on a previous post you said that you know music.i know music too,so i would like to learn if you play an instrument too.
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers Yeah I play guitar also. Lot of fun, there's nothing better than playing music, and jamming.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@GDarkstar74 yeah it's relaxing and creative in jamming and palying music
ledzepguitarcovers 1 year ago
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AZEIDJSKSQMM 1 year ago
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GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@ledzepguitarcovers Well I'm not an idiot, as you seem to assume I am, and you apparently don't have a fantastic understanding of music, or the art of improvisation. To play an instrument, and specifically to improvise, is to spontaneously express musical ideas, feelings and such. The quality of a musician is their ability and proficiency in employing the instrument as a means of expression.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
I sure hope this was the last song of the night?It sounds like it's bed time for Jimmy......God Bless him....But his playing is that of a 2 year old with a broken arm.
1980Invasiontour 2 years ago
What an inane comment,dewd. Ok man, so if this is the 'standard'.. then I reckon that there are now millions, and millions of adolescent and adult, electric guitar players in the world..that would LOVE to be able to play as well as a 2yr old with a broken arm.
ShaemusTOFinnigan 2 years ago 2
there is a diamond in the rough.....
sslink1 2 years ago 2
Best comment ive ever heard
brandontylerkaiser 2 years ago
Jimmy Page has been my favorite guitar player for over 10 years.thank god i've seen vids and heard him at his best cause if this was the first thing i ever heard from him i would definatley say this guy sucks,big time.allthough it is some what satisfying to know that the greatest guitar player ever can still blow it. it makes me feel better about my bad gigs.
vinipage 2 years ago
dewd..you haven't a clue about guitar playing!
Yes,Page was battling it out, out there onstage. By 1980 he had been a heavy H user for over 3 yrs. Notwithstanding, this solo is DRIPPING with FEEL. It gets better & better as each moment goes by. LISTEN to it, amigo! He really lays down some WICKEDLY delicate passages, and poignant , exquisite phrases. This is NOT rehearsed! It is AD-LIB! He's making it up for fuck sakes! WHO does that?? What other guitarist reinvents himself EVERY night?
ShaemusTOFinnigan 2 years ago 5
agreed
fnrebel 2 years ago
thanks amigo, i appreciate you taking the time to say so.
ShaemusTOFinnigan 2 years ago
@ShaemusTOFinnigan
I cannot believe all the comments i am reading, worshiping a man for playing a completely awful solo, shameful to the band. Shaemus you are ignorant. I recommend you listen to some Zappa solos. You wanna hear genius, live, the greatest ripping guitar solos in all of rock music, listen to a live Zappa solo. Jimmy Page is complete garbage in comparison, no offense to him or you, but it's true.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@ShaemusTOFinnigan YOU totally get it about Pages playing here. I have always liked the fact the Page isn't perfect. He doesn't play the solo over and over again to get something polished to an inch of it's life. Page clearly isn't at his best here yet there is still something brilliant going on...its like he is trying to get something out of the guitar that never came before...it's not perfect but certainly unique and tragically brilliant. I understand if others don't get it..but I love it
vettezeppelin 1 year ago 3
@ShaemusTOFinnigan I could do better EVERY night.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
@ShaemusTOFinnigan A LOT fuckin' better. You must be doing some better dope than Jimmy Page was, if you really believe what your saying.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
To me this is the best rock guitar player ever!!!!! David Guilmoure is a close second, then Hendricks.
chichipotle 2 years ago 3
Guilmoure and Hendricks?
You mean Gylmourn and Hindricx?
Or Guiltmore and Hyntrax?
Whatever, you are right, JP is the best
maasai123456789 2 years ago
@maasai123456789
Zappa is the best. If you listened to some music besides pop-rock such as Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or Hendrix you would realize that.
GDarkstar74 1 year ago
If I remember correctly, the concert was scheduled earlier in the tour, but the roof of the Deutschlandhalle was having safety problems. They rescheduled the Berlin concert to the end of the tour and put it in the Eissporthalle. The band wasn't in top form that night (I think they started partying a bit too early for the final show of the tour). At one point people began booing and whistling at Page because he was loosing track of his playing.
Thanks for finding this!
1WEZ59 2 years ago
Now, by saying "The Last", does it mean that this was their last performance of it? I'm about to leave the comp, so I can't look it up right now...
Coolinbnyoncrack 2 years ago
It was the last performance of Zepp. There was supposed to be another gig in Berlin but it was cancelled after poor ticket sales.
zeppelinn 2 years ago
Say what poor tickets sales?
rockboy923 2 years ago
Don't know... I read it somewhere. Tickets were selling poorly for the second Berlin show, so it was cancelled.
zeppelinn 2 years ago
No way, I call bullshit.
It was only a year before this, that Zeppelin were forced to play 2 concerts at Knebworth instead of 1 because almost 500,000 fans wanted to see them.
When Zeppelin put concert tickets for sale they sold out in minutes.
Conan568 2 years ago 2
yep !!!!
i call BULLSHIT TOO !! NO WAY conan568, i agree with you you tell em
EVEN at this later date they were still the biggest BAND to play this earth
z1inspector 2 years ago
YEA RITE
they never cancled a show due to poor ticket sales !!!
PROOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
They would still show up ,& just 4 that reason they would give all their love to the fans and really put on a show.
EVERYONE who knows Peter Grant & The BAND ,knows thats their personality.thats what theyd do !!!
z1inspector 2 years ago
Cool down man... I just read it somewhere, that's all.
zeppelinn 2 years ago
I think They all know that the end was near, as Bonham Life, as John Lenon, and many other rock stars of the 80s, so this was the time Satan has for them,....
J0S30BDULIO 2 years ago
you can tell this is improvised so much...
amast3rMind69 2 years ago 6
don't do herione
tremors831 2 years ago 20