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  • @FactvsReligion: Recognizing someone's greater ability is really graceful and admirable. You've just gained a fan. Thanks for the pointer to SolRosenberg84.

  • i don't care about Scientolgy anymore. scientologists have evil, black hearts. Imagine a scientologist working at a printing machine, 20 hours a day for 30 years. What keeps him at the machine ? Avarice ! they stay because they think the scientologists will one day teach them some hubbard mind 'tricks' that will 'empower' them.

    All scientology really is, is america's biggest, most expencive clique ! Fuck 'em :D

  • Official response issued:

    " The Department of Justice is charged with investigating federal crimes and enforcing federal criminal laws. Accordingly, the White House declines to comment on the specific law enforcement matter raised in this petition."

    Very disappointing. Thank you anyway, FvR, for getting us signatures.

  • I checked it out when I was young and they lost me at the part you have to stand after each class and face a picture of LRH and clap and yell...HIP HIP HURAY! three times. Just toooooooooo FN creepy for me.

  • FvsR, your video helped so much in us reaching our goal. We are now sitting at 4,817 signatures. We will undoubtedly reach 5,000 signatures by October 24 now. The Church of Scientology is truly a sinister and manipulative organization that differs from the other religious institutions, as they employ mind control techniques, separate you from your family, and abuse the law while crying religious bigotry when questioned. Exhaustive googling of Scientology will reveal that.

  • @EngramBT2

    The fact that it is considered a religion and not a cult is outrageous.

  • too bad im not american citizen, id sign it straight away if i was!

  • @TheGrimReapress

    Sign it anyway. Nothing is preventing you from signing the petition as a non-US citizen. Personally, I think it is justified to sign this petition even as a non-American because the root of Scientology lies in the US yet has planted its tentacles in other countries.

  • @EngramBT2 thanks, went on and signed ^_^; u were right it wasn't needed for me to be american citizen... off topic - there is a scientology centre in the city I live in and it is one of the local points of laughing interest XD around half the population (45%) here is atheist and that scientology centre in the public opinion is like a museum of ignorance; although you can't go in of course....

  • We are at 3019 votes. We need 2000 votes in 9 days. For anyone reading this, please spread this to as many people as you can. We can't let this cult slip away from the law once more. All it takes is 20 minutes of research on the net to learn what a devious and manipulative cult the Church of Scientology is. Attention needs to be drawn to them by the government so they can stop abusing the law.

  • Thanks for posting this video!

  • Thanks for posting this video.

    My brother Uwe was enslaved for 30 years in the Sea Org and died there in 2008 45 years young.

    Hubbard created a totalitarian system, if you get into it too deep it is almost impossible to escape. First they took his youth, then they took his mind, then they took his health, then they took his wife, and then they took his life. And they call this a religion.

  • My dream girl :'O

  • why cant others than americans sign it :( trololololol

    but anyway, lets hope enough people will sign it ^^

  • @SmileFIN

    People other than Americans can indeed sign it. Please take the time and do so if you haven't already. We have 13 days to make 2303 votes (which amounts to roughly 178 signatures per day). A big thank you to FactVsReligion for getting in more signatures.

    If you haven't already researched the fraud and abuse of Scientology, please do so. Abuses committed in other religions are by individuals, whereas it is the Scientology corporation's policies that abuse the law.

  • You will always see Christians condemning other Christians, Muslims condemning other Muslims, and Jews condemning other Jews. But you will never see a Scientologist condemning another Scientologist for his/her actions, because doing so will make the Church of Scientology declare you as a suppressive person. That is a major determining factor of a cult.

  • Cult experts do not go after something just because they are a religion. There are specific characteristics that cults have. Isolation of members, their own loaded language so it makes everyone from the outside looking in not understand them, a deceptive recruitment front, repeated pressure of member to give them money.. stuff like that. Scientology is the most dangerous cult because it does all of this and more.

  • Done and done.

  • I think if you wore a darth vader mask in all of your videos youd have about the same number of subs as SolRosenberg84, if you understand what I'm getting at.

  • While we're at it, can we have Christianity and Islam investigated?

  • There is always someone to say something more eloquently than you ever could. I place my preferences within the characteristics of the person saying it. Attractive female giving a direct and genuine approach to the matter is perfectly acceptable to me.

  • If problems registering go here 1st:

    wwws dot whitehouse dot gov/user/register

    +back to the Petition:

    wh dot gov/4Os

    If the Sign button is grey and not green simply log out and log back in.

  • Signed - and if I might add, people should look at the other petitions. There are a bunch of good ones.

  • @naughtypagan72

    Thankyou there are many sad stories re the Co$ and alot have been forgotten since even the 60s-70s

    More recently the Suicides of Edward McBride and others.

  • Agreed, @SolRosenberg84 is absolutely awesome. I just wish he had the time to make more videos.

  • I'd like to thank all the people that have signed so far. For those of you who only know Scientology just as "That whacky religion that Tom Cruise fell for" please take a moment to research it. It's worse than you think. It's not about the religious beliefs, it's about the human rights abusing cult that oversees them.

  • @TheEvilOfScientology SCIENTOLOGY EXIST MIKE ..HERE AND NOW AND FOREVER !

  • @TheEvilOfScientology ". It's not about the religious beliefs, it's about the human rights abusing cult that oversees them."

    That IS religion.

  • @TheHigherVoltage There's a difference between religion and religious, but regardless, the CoS is a cult IMHO and in the opinion of many ex-members,

  • @TheEvilOfScientology tell me about how they indoctrinate people please

  • @doomygloomy1 Do a Google search on 'characteristics of a cult'.

  • Oh boy, Tom Cruise is gonna be pissed lol.

  • @MrJohnnyrace

    Funny you mention that.

    In Scientology's secret hidden texts, it says this:

    " ... the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure he has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR."

    - Scientology OT VIII: Confidential, Student Briefing Bulletin, May 1980 ("Marcab" refers to an alien government)

  • @MrJohnnyrace It's all bunk.

  • @MrJohnnyrace what kind of bullshit standard is that?

  • @MrJohnnyrace miss the part where i said they aren't mutually exclusive and often go together? also, so does christianity, think thats not a religion?

  • Signed

  • Signed as requested

  • @MrJohnnyrace so did christianity thats what crusades were for. now they just want to replace the scientific method with creationist fairy tales

  • @MrJohnnyrace thats definitely true, but i still think islam isnt nessasarely the problem. fundamentalist extremism is, no matter what religion its based on

  • @MrJohnnyrace now thats some scary shit right there O_O

  • btw i might be an atheist myself, but my mother is a muslim. one that actually cried when the twin towers fell...

  • on the other hand we have malnurished nuts living in arabian deserts that have to blow themselves up to cause just enough damage to be noticable these days, while republican teaparty nutjobs with happy trigger fingers have an actual shot at a position where they might get access to us atom bombs....im fucking surprized we all survived bush jrs stupidity

  • @MrJohnnyrace look at westburogh baptist church. that christian terrorist group in ireland, the groups bombing abortion clinics in america. george bush his little crusade for oil and non-existant weapons of mass destruction. jezus camp for kids where the supervisors seem to admire the fanatism of the taliban and want the same for their kids for example

  • Thanks for mentioning Sol. Criminally undersubbed. But looks like that'll be corrected pretty soon if his channel comments are an indication.

  • Done!

  • @MrJohnnyrace because you might as well do the same for christianity? : /

  • @calumlittle

    I don't think signing the petition has anything to do with ignorance or belief. It has more to do with a criminal organization that acts like a mafia and hides behind the cloak of religion to avoid paying taxes. This has nothing to do with individual scientologists, or the belief system of Scientology. This is about bringing attention to a sick and twisted cult chock-full of fraud and abuse. Scientology has refused to change its policies since L. Ron Hubbard started this scam.

  • @MrJohnnyrace

    The petition makes a very specific request when it comes to Scientology. Human trafficking, forced abortions, civil rights violations, have all been reported by the media sourced from ex-members. Additionally, it specifically addresses the US government as to why, regardless of an abundance of evidence of corruption, they refuse to do an investigation. If you can construct a similar, specifically worded document about Islam, by all means make that petition on whitehouse(.)gov.

  • "At the bottom of this.. Video?"

  • @MrJohnnyrace That depends entirely upon who you are and where you live. Just ask an abortion doctor whether christianity "is a threat". And not all muslims hold up that rule, otherwise there wouldn't be ex muslims. They're just a cherrypicking as other religions. And horrible things have happened to people who left their christian faith well enough. Christianity is merely older and less fundamental than islam is, it is by no means a better faith. And "iscum"? Really? What are you? 5?

  • signed and shared.

  • @MrJohnnyrace Or Christianity???

  • Since several years I get mail from scientology. I don't know how. They got my adres. Everytime I get mail from them. My mother says "Yas mail from that cult". We just laugh with it. And throw it in the garbage bin.

  • I think ALL churches should be investigated for their abuses.

  • @MrJohnnyrace you seem to think its an ideology, it's a religion, those things are not mutually exclusive and almost always go together, the only reason people like you want to call a religion an ideology is because that gives you an excuse to disregard freedom of religion, and just throw any slander you wish to those people, muslims, under the pretext that its attacking an ideology, only to be able to feel you're better than them, the "sandmonkeys" and who believe in "iscum", that's racism.

  • I'm signature number 2,435 ... oh yea!

  • @MrJohnnyrace

    It's already pretty much the no.1 priority of foreign policy and homeland security to investigate and prosecute islamic terrorism. Duh.

  • Scientology ruins lives. It harasses critics. It breaks up families. It abuses the weak and the lost. It impoverishes the gullible, and then turns them to indentured servitude when they can no longer afford to pay their way to 'enlightenment'. It has no respect for human dignity, human rights, and human life.

    Scientology plays on the victim's vulnerability and pocketbook. This government petition states that the Obama will issue an official response if 5000 signatures are reached. FvR,thanks.

  • @MrJohnnyrace i was a little taken aback by this comment since the last one seemed reasoned, but then i saw that it was someone else, go look up the definition of religion you racist idiot.

  • FactVsReligion, thank you so much for this video. To answer the beginning portion of your video, you do not have to be a US citizen to sign this petition.

    We are at 2,430 signatures, which is almost half way. We have until the 24th of October to reach this goal.

  • Its the way a hot woman says important thinks in an intelligent yet aggressive way that I like.

  • First time since childhood when I regret not being American.....Wish I could sign that petition :(

  • thankyou

    hugs

  • You have such beautiful eyes, yet they seem so sad...

  • 5 dislikes? lol... Scientology isn't what it used to be... years ago they'd have their brainwashed goons out with 30 accounts each clicking the dislike button...or threatening legal action.

    Now with Anonymous breathing down their neck, their own followers realizing they have been had, no understanding of how to use social media and it no longer the 'fad' in celebrity circles, they are dying off...and about time.

    Lets deal scientology its 'fait accompli' whilst its on its knees.

  • Thank you for turning me on to SolRosenberg. I watched two videos and subscribed immediately!

    Also, on a totally unrelated matter, it's too bad, for me and other males, that you are gay because you are one sexy, sexy woman. As pretty as you are, your brains bump you up into the super-desirable category. Have a nice day. :-)

  • FvR, thank you for sharing this channel... Your subscribers, of which I have been one for a bit, value your insight and expression. Sol...84 is a perfect compliment to my subscription list, thank you!

  • Anyone can sign the petition, You just have to register. Skip the address part if you are not from the US. That's IT.

  • ya i've been subbed to solrosenberg for a while. he's a good watch

  • @MrJohnnyrace A valid point... in fact given the issues of the islamic churches... the serious abuse of not just children but adults too by the catholic church.... and the sheer commercial greed and damage to education of the evangelical churches then all of them have a case to answer.

    For sure one religions guilt does not excuse the others from theirs.

  • @MrJohnnyrace because its not a criminal organisation?

    though i see where you're coming from.

    also, we might by your logic just as well do this for all religions which would be insane.

  • @lepthymo Perfectly sane... do you think the catholic church should really be allowed to abuse not just children but also adults across the globe?

    Is it right that evangelical superchurches and their con artist pastors coin in millions whilst at the same time promote hatred, homophopia and damage education?

    Should we let muslim clerics away with the idea that somehow threats of violence will be tolerated by them but nobody else?

    Erm... nope... apply the law across the board equally.

  • @MumblingMickey abviously child abuse and hate speech should not be tolerated, but do you think its right for perfectly good people to be prevented from being able to exercise their right to believe what they want? i dont think so. i disagree with hose beliefs but that doesnt mean i want to force them not to believe them, the solution is rational discussion and sane consideration, we are all human you know. the only thing a ban would cause is more suffering and hatred.

  • Why stop at scientology, it is just a pimple on the ass of the huge motherfucker of abuse known as christianity. Stop fraud, End religion.

  • This petition is as pointless as it is petty. Scientology is in decline, and has been for a long time. It's only a 'threat' to a dwindling number of morons (getting suckered into the Scientology scam in the information age = epic fail). Just let it die in peace, there are much more important battles to be fought.

  • @Parapon3ra Yes but a deliberate secular 'kill' of this little scam would also send a very loud message to the behemoth religions... which is 'See how we slaughtered this nonsense... well your nonsense is next!'

    Historically the reaction of all religions to such threats has always been to weather the storm by muddying the waters with finger pointing and pretense of reform, but this time there is global communications.

    It can actually be done...but nobody has drawn up a plan.

  • Thanks for this video, FVR.

  • @TheEvilOfScientology TROLL .

    V

  • EVERYONE:

    I am Finnish yet I successfully signed the petition!

  • why do i have to be english

  • From the preview picture of this video I thought you were wearing a hat :D

  • I live in Ireland, but I have many U.S. friends on my FaceBook account. Leaving this comment should automatically post your video on my wall to be seen by them.

    I hope some of them will sign your petition.

  • I live in Australia so can't sign this one, but I'll Favorite this vid and Facebook it to get it circulating. =)

  • i really like listening to you.

  • I grew up in that cult. Please sign everyone. I witnessed some horrible things as a kid in scientology. Its deadly serious. A very insidious organisation.

  • @metrx330 can you please give details ?

  • btw i think the gov lets them slip by because they have connections/agents really high out there

  • @metrx330 Things like what?...I was involved at one point, but only for a few months and everyone was kool...The only thing which I found weird was that everytime I showed up, everyone knew my name and these are different staff members who I hadn't ever seen before, but that wasn't such a big deal

  • Rare natural beauty, liked your old style though

  • Are people from Canada allowed to sign on that?

  • I am signing.

  • Glad hearing you speak of him! But already subscribed to him looong ago : )

  • He's as eloquent as you. But you look way better.

    See what I did there? I totally sexualized you. Eeeevil me!

  • I'm British & have signed it.

  • I love how all your videos have ads for Scientology :) FAIL!

  • The problem with online petitions is that most people don't know about it, they don't even hear about the results. And so when 5,000 people sign, there are another 50,000 in America alone who would if they knew about it.

  • Unfortunately I've already signed this, so I can't make any further dent in the number of signatures required.

  • It's a pity the petition is only open to US citizens. At least we've just about got them fucked in Oz.

  • Anyone, anywhere, can sign!! Link is above.

    Also: youtube [DOT] com/watch?v=tD32AlpZK-k

  • Gawd I wish I could make you happier.

  • Nobody cares about online petitions

  • @tubes17 That is right. They are not legal documents.

  • Shame i would love to sign but not US citizen yet

  • I just read up on RICO Act. And signed the petition.

    As an ex-Jehovah's Witness, I can freely speak out against my former religion and not be afraid of lawsuits or worse.

    The CoS is much, much worse!

  • i only have one thing to say. you seem confused as to why Sol has fewer subs than you. let me clear that up for you. its not because he isnt worthy, or because his vids arent very good, in all reality they seem to be very good. the difference is that he isnt a beautiful woman with a brain. there are plenty of guys out there who hold the same beliefs against religion. a ton of them. but there arent very many of you. dont be offended by it. im sure he isnt.

  • This abusive gang needs to be stopped.

    It's not simply just a false religion. But that can be debated (cross your fingers you don't get sued or baselessly accused of crime). Also, you can get along with Buddhists and Hindus just fine.

    It's also not just that it's run by money hungry vampires. Those exist in industries outside religion.

    It's their "Suppressive Persons" label. It should be thrown right back in their face. If they outcast people, they should be outcast.

  • sadly I can not sign the petition as I am canadian

  • It will not fly.

    Instead of pissing people off, what we as a society need to do, its to scrap that shit we call public education, and re institute the true ways of teaching.

    1. Teach how to think and question ideas before you accept them.

    2. Teach the facts of life.

    Then you won't get people fooled by ANY religion so easily. People without that ability has no chance against manipulators.

  • What *I* want to see is a full disclosure of the deal Scientology made with the US/IRS that ended up with them being declared a tax exempt religion. This was after they infiltrated IRS, copied personnel documents, etc. Instead of a whole raft of them going to prison, they came out with tax exempt status, and the proceedings are restricted from public access to this day, AFAIK.

  • Let's destroy this cult once and for all!

  • Scientology again? It's like beating a dead horse.

  • @JohnWoo If it were a dead horse it wouldn't be a problem.

  • I clicked the link, was going to sign, but "registration" is required to sign.

    A lame exuse (in order to create or sign petions on we the people, you must create a WhiteHouse.gov account and verify your email address) for registration.

    I'm not commiting to the cause of the group, but only the specific issue about the crimes of the "religion" of scientology.

    buh bye...

  • Nice to see you on Youtube again. I've missed you.

  • Link not working! T_T

  • Done.

    And I've been subbed to Sol for a while, myself.

  • Already done..

  • Welcome back FVR!

  • I wish i could sign that petition, but seeing as it's the US government's site, I imagine you have to be a US citizen. >_<

    Just like you have to be a UK citizen to sign petitions on the 10 downing street website.

  • I will sign in a bit. Also, I've been sub to Sol for a while, and enjoyed his opinions especially on marijuana.

    Thanks for the video :-) Will try to share on twitter.

    Fav'd and thumb'd up. Scientology needs the scrutiny it deserves.

  • Wish i could help more than to like the vid, can't sign the petition since i am far away from USA, mirroring it won't help since nobody is watching my vids.. however you guys have my full moral support, next step is subscribe to SolRosenberg84 and skimm through the uploads :)

    Btw, thanks for all your nice vids.

    Cheers.

  • WHY would you want DC to investigate it?! they are god awful at being objective!

  • Signing now.

  • Signed.

  • Empathy sucks sometimes. :(

  • Thanks for directing attention to the petition AND SolRosenberg84's channel. Killer.

  • Cute. ^^

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