The days of the Mel Fisher era in treasure hunting are long gone. Besides the Mel Fisher group owns all the good shipwreck areas in FLorida. anyway.They have leases on the ocen floor like prospectors have a mining claim. They have most of the good ground and the rest of the coast is protected by Unesco is is it not? So you have to be a marine archeaologist to get access. Pioneer spirit dead.
I think that one part of the treasure should be kept in the museums of the founder's country and the other halfof the treasure to the original contry's museums, in this case Spain. In any case, not for the founders. If this was like this, then the seas will be full of poeple looking for treasures.
I think it's useless to insult actual people (in this case, spanish people). In the XVII century it wasn't supossed to be robbery what this ships were doing, since south america was part of Spain then
@theirealife93 Half to Spain? Are you kidding me!!!! These friggin morons Raped, pillaged and stoled this shit from the natives of the Countries they invaded!!!! Finders keepers PERIOD!!! Good for Fisher he never had to kill anyone for his find!!!!
@whipcity1096 Well, that's just my humble opinion. And I'm not excusing them because what they did was very wrong indeed, but I think we souldn't judge people from another era with our actual way of thinking. Of course they did horrible things to innocent people and now it sounds unfair, but like many historians say: at that time what they did wasn't a crime, on the contrary, the thought it was their right. Anyway, we can't change the past now, just prepare a fair and good future for us all.
@theirealife93 Taking the gold is not a problem to me and I understand it was their right. To say it's an insult to Spain, that's a big "NO"! When it came to murdering and raping, the Conquistadors in the fashion it was done knew very well what they were doing was wrong and not a right. We can't change the past but we can't forget that this gold had blood spilled on it. Yes, a portion of this should be in Museums of the founders, the explorers "AND" the countries it orginated from. Peace.
@whipcity1096 no si te parace es de eeuu!!!,eso no les pertenece,llevais el alma de pirata en la sangre aun hoy dia,malditos ladrones de mierda,teneis suerte de que en españa tengamos a zapatero.Y todavia teneis la sinverguenzeria de venir a las costas españolas a buscar barcos!!
@theirealife93 The Spanish came to the Americas and took over the land then raped and enslaved the locals and stole everything they could,then made them work mines to get more.They also tried to push their religious beliefs onto them,and would kill any who resisted.What they did in the name of Spain and God was horrendous,they have no claim to anything we find here in the waters off the coast of Florida.
@theirealife93 Then I guess I can go to Spain and claim it that would make it mine.Central America wasn't part of Spain,they just showed up and said it was and killed all who opposed them.
@mrmagoo560 Calm down, that was just my opinion, not the undeniable truth! If that's your opinion I respect it, of course! I agree that Spain conquered those parts of America and killed all who opposed them, but that was how was life and conquest back then, sadly. And it was unfair, but those lands became part of the Spanish Empire, by violence and murder, yes, but that's how was it. Fortunately, life's a little bit better now and countries can't claim lands that way. But of course you're right!
The real treasure hunters are quite sophicated these days with ROV's and deep research teams. Indonesia and Malayisa are quite rewarding for the few who dare to bodly go below the surface.
if those countries do not have legal documents to claim those gold bars lost on foreign lands or international waters, then i guess it's finders' keepers. you and i could go for it.
but bear in mind that finding those gold bars is a big problem, and getting those gold bars out of any country is even a bigger problem. do you want to risk your precious life for some precious metal?
@mrmagoo560 and the recently discovered Inglesh ship, SS Gairsoppa's gold was stolen from the Indians but the americans will keep it! hehehe British suckers
Nobody talks about Portugal, but Portugal and Spain at that time were the two most important countries in the world, and I am sad to know that no one recognizes this we are small yet discovered Brazil, and part of the countries of the world
just a thought... its funny that they were able to realize that very small ships were unseaworthy and yet even to this day... most of the worlds life boats are based on these very similar designs which only due to a wide use of coast guards around the world has safety really improved much at all. personally i think we need to rethink life boats completely. in my opinion, we should be using something more like counter weighted pods.
..What has come to some of you people..You guys should care for your damn countries..I am from South Korea,but I support many people all over the world,although my own hometown is under war almost,I can not let things like this go down...If you guys do something,don't go off and do the wrong thnigs thinking it will stop this war..
See biggest question does Spain get it or does Florida?....I think if ship is 151 miles off USA shore it's finders keepers---International wates then....Spain gets nothing and neither does Florida or US Govt...Finders/keepers Law...
@deltaalpha21074 don't do that, please don't take your wealth away to another country. spread it around your local community, just like what Mel Fisher had done in Florida.
@vincentyeo88 NO I tried for 10 years have patents and even developed new forms of military hardware and not one damn penny form USA Government not one damn penny nothing Fuck this Country BIG TIME!!! I will take it to countries that have huge liberal laws and good politics ----Good ONES ...I busted my ass for new military systems and got nothing Corruption in USA PURE Corruption..NO I go far South America and armed to Teeth.
@bannanatube sure, in those early years, regardless of colonialism or not, the Spanish were enterpreneurs in exploiting those natives to mine the gold, and then shipped the gold home to Spain.
but today, those sunken gold and other treasures are not under Spanish jurisdiction, and thus sovereignty of independent countries apply and Spain cannot lay claim to those lost treasures.
@vincentyeo88 see thing is that every single country got wealth by exploiting and stealing, now back then it wasn't any BIG THING to colonize land and push it's natives out. The U.S. did it. Basically the history belongs either internationally between spain the U.S. and the treaure finders, or in a museum. Its a country's history.
@bannanatube right, those exploiting colonial days are over and international laws apply today. legal arbitration is the order of the day if any country does not recognize finder's keeper for treasure hunting.
@bannanatube you are correct. My country is one of those who were rob of our own natural wealth. Now, there is a Greatest and Historical Opportunity on the horizon and it's near.
@shqipeztuning You know the funniest thing of all, is Spain still tries to claim the Gold and wants the teasure hunters to give the gold to them. What a joke.
@guapgueezee Most of us know this but it doesnt keep the big mouth ignorants quiet. I'm sure you have your share too. You do the same thing by saying "you English speaking whites" lol.. What a ridiculous distinction. You might call me that as well regardless of my largely Italian heritage, I look white and live in the U.S.
Yep, we kicked the Indians asses and took the land lol, get over it.
@guitarplayer4real I dont care about the indians I am pointing out a hypocritical statement.. and as an Italian you were just recently considered white in America so get over it yourself.. English speaking-Anglo Saxons not you who came here and adapted ok? Anglos always say that the Spanish were evil murderes of the Indigenous yet Latin America is full of Indians..You said it yourself dummy you didnt just kick their asses you intentionally depopulated them from their land yet talk shit about Spa
@guapgueezee I have nothing against a super nation like Spain, WTF are you talking about:-p
I'm a survival of the fittest proponent and I see Spain as an awesome force, back then and today. However, I was just being mean about any reference towards depopulation of any peoples. Personally I love a nation that kicks ass, to bad America has chosen not to be that any longer with its new neophite leadership. Think I'll move to Spain!
@guitarplayer4real Spare me.. so now you blame obama for the pussyfication of America? its being happening since way back when.. kick ass means WINNING not neverending battles.. like vietnam we kicked ass in WW2 and 1776
Youy're an idiot! Obama and his supporters are the bleeding heart shitbag types like you, long on lip service and short on action who make it so we cant "win wars" because liberal fucks hold this nation down. Everyone has a F'n issue! I'll stomp the guts out of you and go take a nap while medics scoop up the mess, pussyfied indeed. Dont worry about America being able to finish a war and I dont give a shit about your Latin rantings and problems, nor your opinion of me.
@guitarplayer4real you dont know who i support because I said it was happening before him means I support him? I support America and it's survival you ugly social reject..you are a typical wingnut who cares about red and blue not the country..cuts for military spending have been happening on both sides I have people in Afghanistan yu dumb fuck that have been shitted on by our government since shock and awe started so it isnt a liberal thing. I worry about America because I live here you faggot.
@guitarplayer4real continued. also I dont have latin problens you loser I am responding to a video the way you are if you dont like it eat shit.. Ill stomp the shit out of your mother daughter and take a shit on your granma's grave while I am at it and if you knew anything liberal and neo cons BOTH keep the country down libs with political correctness and extreme pacifism and neo cons selling us out to China and India etc.. you cant fuck with me u homo YOU have serious issues like lack of educat
I dont care about the indians I am pointing out a hypocritical statement.. and as an Italian you were just recently considered white in America so get over it yourself.. English speaking-Anglo Saxons not you who came here and adapted ok? Anglo always say that the Spanish were evil murderers of the Indigenous yet Latin America is full of Indians..You said it yourself dummy you didnt just kick their asses you intentionally depopulated them from their land yet talk shit about Sp
@guitarplayer4real when people say english speaking whites in regards to this vid I mean anglo saxons who have made it their mission to besmirch all things latin.. and because they won dominance over spain they have been consistent in miseducating people.. ask any American even of Latin heritage like YOU yes Italy is Italian and they all talk about the Spanish in a dark way.. look up the black legend.. I notice it
SANQ!!! are you serious dude? the native americans would all be dead? killed all the buffalo? you are dumber than the average bear huh? we gave the natives wonderful things like smallpox, muskets, and alcoholism....IDIOT!!!
@maciverandy Im tired of all this crying about the Native Americans. Go ask them today if they would want to trade their nice modern living standard nowadays where they don't have to work or pay taxes for the miserable tribe life they had 300 yrs ago when their life depended on hunting or rain for their crops, also the constant fights between tribes.
lol how come spanish armada's always sunk:P? i mean i hear spanish treasure ships everywhere...i never hear a english or dutch treasure ship who were very active on sea during that time :P can't those conquistador's protect their ships or what xD
@vetteed There's plenty of english and dutch ships that sunk too during that time, the only thing is that they didn't have anything of much value in them, therefore nobody cares much. On the other hand Spanish ships had a lot of treasure and those are the ones that interest Gold Seekers and treasure divers today.
Why would you claim the treasure ? When people find treasure the government comes in and takes alot of it leaving you a small percentage. Some times the government gives it back to spain. Why don't people just keep all the teasure for themselves and sell on black market ?
@vincentyeo88 The world owes me nothing, and in turn I owe the world nothing. That's why i would keep all the money for my self ! If i was the one doing all the work lookin for gold at the bottom of the ocean, i would give nothing to the government. If you want to get Noble about it, you should give the gold & silver back to the Native Americans.
@flubno The Native Americans gold and silver? WHere would they be right now if it wasn't for us? Probably starving because they killed off all the buffalo anyway. We owe them nothing now.
@sanQ Where would they be ? probably alive for starters. They europeans killed off all the Buffalo on purpose because the natives used them as a major food source.
Finders keepers loosers weepers!! Spain basically killed for the gold, if someone finds any Spanish gold or Silver then they should keep it, Espana fue y ha sido un pais de Ladrones y asesinos desde los 1400's , Cortez fue uno de los primeros .. Espana , pais de amantes de lo ajeno desde 1450 , i aun siguen! ..
right! i don't know much about treasure hunting law of USA or Spain. but here in Singapore, it's finders keepers as long as it is not on private property.
Ortiz hasta las cachas,no debes de ser muy "ortiz" si hablas asi de España,tu apellido lo debes a España y seguramente debas mucho mas a España. En mi pais los hay amantes de lo ajeno,pero en tu pais o cualquier pais de HISPANOamerica los hay muchos mas,ladrones,asesinos,violadores etc etc,secuestros,narcos y eso en pleno siglo 21.Ah y el oro lo cambiabamos por espejitos heheh o caballos y vuestras mujeres se ofrecian,no tenemos culpa de que eso pasara.
@maicolin por favor mira come tu querida espana dejo a esos paises.. destrozados sin nada.. ustedes fueron a sacar la plata y el oro no a vivir como lon ingleses.. por eso es que tus colonias se quedaron como merda.. lo unico que pueden hacer es tartar de lucir como espanoles.. y lamber le el culo a espana.. lee tu historia por favor despues vengas a hablar..
@guapgueezee . "No a vivir como los ingleses". Es cierto, los ingleses se quedaron a vivir, pero a un precio muy alto que por tus palabras parece que te gusta: matando a miles de hombres, mujeres y niños nativos. Esa es la historia oculta de Norteamérica, esa que los ingleses se han encargado de tapar a lo largo de los siglos. Ah, y destrozados sin nada, díselo, por ejemplo, a los haitianos que sabrás o te lo digo yo, que estuvieron en la órbita francesa.
@Precuto no lo niego.. estoy solamente diciendo la verdad.. los norteamericanos han pagado el precio pero aqui yo puedo ser lo que sea.. en latino america la vida as como una novela.. los indigenos i morenos abajo con un elite blanco que ellos sirven la vida en latino america es linda cuando tu vas a vivir alla con dinero norteamericano.. pero todavia tienen la mentalidad de hace 500 anos atraz.. eso es el problema..si lees mis otros posts acerca de espana yo la defiendo con capa y espada
mi querida espana dejo esos paises destrozados sin nada?
No fuimos ahi a vivir como los ingleses? y entonces porque hay tantos millones de criollos en Hispano america? nosotros ademas nos mestizamos,cosa que los demas europeos ni se lo plantearon. Tu? no sabes nada,y me dices ami que yo lea mi historia? tu eres un cinico y un necio. A ver,que no hicimos nada alli? te parece poco fundar y formar paises? la lengua? tecnologia,hospitales,escuelas,iglesias,ciudades enteras etc etc
@Pocomocoloco south and north america.. evenup to valdez alaska.. now keeping the colonies was another story... and some ships sank but the losses came from pirates your kind so admire that were thugs and robbed the ships aat gunpoint.. u know the same anglos who bestowed that culture of thuggery on blacks then wonder why
Como creo que sabes , Perú , Colombia o Méjico eran colonias en las que se acuñaban monedas con el oro y la plata que se sacaban de sus minas y se mandaban en barcos hacia la península y creo que es de justicia que se devuelva a esos países de donde provenían esos barcos y más en esto tiempos.
Esos paises que tu mencionas NO EXISTIAN,tenian otros nombres,excepto el Pero,Los demas? Nueva Granada y Nueva España y no eran "colonias" eran un trocito de España. El oro tendria que ser parte para quien lo descubre y parte para España y parte para el pais en el cual se encuentra. Pero no de donde venia el oro,ese oro alomejor se cambio por ESPEJITOS o VIDRIOS o CABALLOS.O quizás venia de Asia,Filipinas.
get it right south american indians are the ones you see ju,mpin the fence and into the US the indians of the north are gone cos the british wiped em out Spain didnt wipe em out n thats a shame cos they are scum
La junta de andalucia ,dio permiso a la archifamosa empresa Odissey y llevaban años en las costas españolas y en concreto desde el estrecho hasta el cabo de san vicente en Portugal y no se enteraron de lo que sacaron hasta que salió en la prensa y entonces fue cuando salieron a decir que los barcos eran españoles y que los reclamaban.¿donde está quien controla estas actividades ?
Yo como español y conociendo el interes de las autoridades españolas en recuperar los tesoros que venian a España desde las colonias de ultramar , italia deberia tomar la misma postura que mi pais y reclamar todos los pecios de epoca romana que hay hundido en las costas españolas , que no son pocos . La politica del ministerio de cultura de mi pais deja mucho que desear , es una verguenza.
WHY ? why to look for that treasure when there is the treasures of the North Kingdoms of the Inca's empire. According to books expeditions and proofs there is hundreds of tones of Inca's gold mostly from The Last Inca Capital: Quito where Atahualpa the last emperor born and governed. There is not remains of the capital. Because the city was burned and its treasure hidded by Ruminahui a Inca general. The gold is in the Llanganatis Mountains, ECUADOR, people who go there do no come out alive.
Henry Kamen argues that Spain does not deserve blame for all of the actions of the Spanish Empire. According to his book, the Spanish Empire was a multinational enterprise, incorporating armaments from Milan, Genoese and German bankers, foreign sailors, German and Italian soldiers, Native American allies, and English and Chinese merchants.
@Precuto and jewish slave traders.. gomes perez and lopez being the biggest ones.. lest we forget that due to the rampant anti semitism many jews chose to seek fortune in the slave trade to escape the harrowing life in spain and came to the new world.. no it isnt anti semetic to say this.. just true.. everyone has done dirt
you read all about those successful treasure hunts from sunken shipwrecks, and you can get an idea about the huge amount of gold shipped across the Atlantic Ocean.
Spain built their 'Golden Age' on the genocide of Native Americans and the theft of gold obtained through blood , slavery and slaughter ! 40 years after the Spanish landed in S. America they had murdered 1/3 of the native population . The pretext for this is that they refused to 'pay tribute'. They enslaved Indians in the mines and worked them to death for gold. Their greed was beyond measure as was their ruthlessness ! Now they want the gold back that they stole and murdered for !
So what. You English speaking whites kill me.. YOUR GOLDEN AGE devastated the WORLD. Africa the United States India China.. BE FOR REAL LOOK IN THE MIRROR BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT THE SPANISH... INDIAN REMOVAL ACTS AND SO ON... YOU INTENTIONALLY KILLED THE INDIANS UNDER THE SPANISH IT WAS LACK OF RESISTANCE TO DISEASE NOT INTENTIONAL SMALLPOX BLANKETS. THE SPANISH KEPT IT REAL YOU SPEAK WITH TWO FACES KNOW YOUR HISTORY ALL OF YOU WERE COLONIZING ASSHOLES AND BENEFOT FRO IT TO TODAY.
@Treadsoftly14 you care enough to keep replying now move on please.. I only talk to those who can formulate a real response..I suck becaue you have ZERO knowledge of history and point out your hypocrisy and lies? you hate educated Latins anbd Blacks .. you cant feed us bullshit other than make racist insults or say we suck.. you cant touch me bud and people do care it affects many t this day..so go ahead and sleep while you act as if the world doenst notice what you are about..
funny u should say this lol u no shame bastard wiped the indians out we didnt thats why spanish is associated with non white people those are indians u fuckin retard those emigratin to the US most south americans are of heavy indian stock u retard get a clue slanderin dummy
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the greatest treasure story is to gain Jesus, who gives eternal life to all who love his appearing.turn to Jesus look and live.Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners
Its not easy not to get obsessed, theres a true illness between men(I'm Just Quoting some of what General Cortes said during his exile from the golden city of Tenochtitlan in which later he returned by force) ´´its called the gold fever which I suffer dearly, men lose their sleep and appetite and think of nothing other than the wealth that awaits them in their awaken dream''.
next episode?
stsk7 3 weeks ago
I live in california desert.. was digging in my property and found 620oz of gold and i think theres more where it came from.
so does that mean if i find more gold can i claime it, or do i have to turn it in?
MrManny7426 2 months ago
@MrManny7426
California desert ain't no desert when you could find so much gold. good for you and keep on digging!
best you quietly go to your local library and read about the law concerning your property.
btw, do you know what California is called in one of my country's languages? Gold Hills, that is, and there is more gold to be found.
vincentyeo88 2 months ago
Cartagena de Indias + 1741 + Blas de Lezo
Komnenit 2 months ago
Recently the americans found a British ship (Indian loot) found off the florida keys worth 400 million. 80% of it will be Americans keeps I read
olg06 4 months ago
@olg06
great, please keep me posted when there is more information about this find.
vincentyeo88 4 months ago
Makes me want to take up the quest for sunken treasure once again.
crom2000
Crom2000 4 months ago
@Crom2000
go for it!
vincentyeo88 4 months ago
That is crap i bought like 16 of those coins at ripleys believe it or not prate ship in panama city beach florida...
yoyosrule321 5 months ago
The days of the Mel Fisher era in treasure hunting are long gone. Besides the Mel Fisher group owns all the good shipwreck areas in FLorida. anyway.They have leases on the ocen floor like prospectors have a mining claim. They have most of the good ground and the rest of the coast is protected by Unesco is is it not? So you have to be a marine archeaologist to get access. Pioneer spirit dead.
Crom2000 8 months ago
English = pirates = terrorist
English in 16th, 17th and 18th century = osama bin laden in 21st century
DCDVassili 9 months ago 7
why is the ocean goin up hill behind him...?
HOMEnHIGH 9 months ago
will you decipher the OnyxCode ...
OnyxCode 10 months ago
I think that one part of the treasure should be kept in the museums of the founder's country and the other halfof the treasure to the original contry's museums, in this case Spain. In any case, not for the founders. If this was like this, then the seas will be full of poeple looking for treasures.
I think it's useless to insult actual people (in this case, spanish people). In the XVII century it wasn't supossed to be robbery what this ships were doing, since south america was part of Spain then
theirealife93 1 year ago 6
@theirealife93
thank you for your suggestion and information.
i think the free enterprise spirit of founders' keepers will encourage more treasure seekers in the like of Mel Fisher.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@theirealife93 Half to Spain? Are you kidding me!!!! These friggin morons Raped, pillaged and stoled this shit from the natives of the Countries they invaded!!!! Finders keepers PERIOD!!! Good for Fisher he never had to kill anyone for his find!!!!
whipcity1096 1 year ago
@whipcity1096 Well, that's just my humble opinion. And I'm not excusing them because what they did was very wrong indeed, but I think we souldn't judge people from another era with our actual way of thinking. Of course they did horrible things to innocent people and now it sounds unfair, but like many historians say: at that time what they did wasn't a crime, on the contrary, the thought it was their right. Anyway, we can't change the past now, just prepare a fair and good future for us all.
theirealife93 1 year ago
@theirealife93 Taking the gold is not a problem to me and I understand it was their right. To say it's an insult to Spain, that's a big "NO"! When it came to murdering and raping, the Conquistadors in the fashion it was done knew very well what they were doing was wrong and not a right. We can't change the past but we can't forget that this gold had blood spilled on it. Yes, a portion of this should be in Museums of the founders, the explorers "AND" the countries it orginated from. Peace.
whipcity1096 1 year ago
@whipcity1096 no si te parace es de eeuu!!!,eso no les pertenece,llevais el alma de pirata en la sangre aun hoy dia,malditos ladrones de mierda,teneis suerte de que en españa tengamos a zapatero.Y todavia teneis la sinverguenzeria de venir a las costas españolas a buscar barcos!!
VDeLezoV 2 months ago
@theirealife93 The Spanish came to the Americas and took over the land then raped and enslaved the locals and stole everything they could,then made them work mines to get more.They also tried to push their religious beliefs onto them,and would kill any who resisted.What they did in the name of Spain and God was horrendous,they have no claim to anything we find here in the waters off the coast of Florida.
mrmagoo560 9 months ago
@mrmagoo560 Perpahs you should put down the protestant propoganda books, and rely on the facts rather than the Black Legend.
assasincomedy 5 months ago 3
@theirealife93 Then I guess I can go to Spain and claim it that would make it mine.Central America wasn't part of Spain,they just showed up and said it was and killed all who opposed them.
mrmagoo560 5 months ago
@mrmagoo560 Calm down, that was just my opinion, not the undeniable truth! If that's your opinion I respect it, of course! I agree that Spain conquered those parts of America and killed all who opposed them, but that was how was life and conquest back then, sadly. And it was unfair, but those lands became part of the Spanish Empire, by violence and murder, yes, but that's how was it. Fortunately, life's a little bit better now and countries can't claim lands that way. But of course you're right!
theirealife93 5 months ago
english + northamerican = pirates and masons!!! Long live to the Great Spanish Empire and all latin-americans.
puntastilla 1 year ago
@puntastilla GRACIAS AMIGO, thanks from TURKIA, TURKO
gunayxy 8 months ago
The real treasure hunters are quite sophicated these days with ROV's and deep research teams. Indonesia and Malayisa are quite rewarding for the few who dare to bodly go below the surface.
maxcomdive 1 year ago
@maxcomdive
be sure to donate some of your finding to the national museums of these two countries.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
err no ? :P
topbluffa1 1 year ago
@vincentyeo88 legally it belongs to the governments of those countries anyways am i correct?
036265 1 year ago
@036265
if those countries do not have legal documents to claim those gold bars lost on foreign lands or international waters, then i guess it's finders' keepers. you and i could go for it.
but bear in mind that finding those gold bars is a big problem, and getting those gold bars out of any country is even a bigger problem. do you want to risk your precious life for some precious metal?
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@vincentyeo88 i definately would if its what i wanted to set my heart to.. whats the point of being "safe" and locked up indoors if you arent happy?
036265 1 year ago
@036265
right, go for it!
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@036265 Why? They stole it to begin with.
mrmagoo560 5 months ago
@mrmagoo560 and the recently discovered Inglesh ship, SS Gairsoppa's gold was stolen from the Indians but the americans will keep it! hehehe British suckers
olg06 4 months ago
Nobody talks about Portugal, but Portugal and Spain at that time were the two most important countries in the world, and I am sad to know that no one recognizes this we are small yet discovered Brazil, and part of the countries of the world
diogo77777 1 year ago 2
just a thought... its funny that they were able to realize that very small ships were unseaworthy and yet even to this day... most of the worlds life boats are based on these very similar designs which only due to a wide use of coast guards around the world has safety really improved much at all. personally i think we need to rethink life boats completely. in my opinion, we should be using something more like counter weighted pods.
governmentcheese411 1 year ago
..What has come to some of you people..You guys should care for your damn countries..I am from South Korea,but I support many people all over the world,although my own hometown is under war almost,I can not let things like this go down...If you guys do something,don't go off and do the wrong thnigs thinking it will stop this war..
Cassidy153 1 year ago
@Cassidy153 you are a patriot and South Korea needs more patriots like you. go round your country and spread your message.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@Cassidy153 your war should finally start, so north korea can be wiped off the planet
djjmria 1 year ago
See biggest question does Spain get it or does Florida?....I think if ship is 151 miles off USA shore it's finders keepers---International wates then....Spain gets nothing and neither does Florida or US Govt...Finders/keepers Law...
deltaalpha21074 1 year ago
@deltaalpha21074 we need more treasure hunters like Mel Fisher.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@vincentyeo88 I 'll join got no JOB plenty of time and Nice thing don't have to PAY SH## for taxes to any Government --take to Switzerland.
deltaalpha21074 1 year ago
@deltaalpha21074 don't do that, please don't take your wealth away to another country. spread it around your local community, just like what Mel Fisher had done in Florida.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@vincentyeo88 NO I tried for 10 years have patents and even developed new forms of military hardware and not one damn penny form USA Government not one damn penny nothing Fuck this Country BIG TIME!!! I will take it to countries that have huge liberal laws and good politics ----Good ONES ...I busted my ass for new military systems and got nothing Corruption in USA PURE Corruption..NO I go far South America and armed to Teeth.
deltaalpha21074 1 year ago
I personally think some of the treasure should rightfully go back to spain, and like 45k left for the crew. I mean, it was theirs... technically
bannanatube 1 year ago
@bannanatube sure, in those early years, regardless of colonialism or not, the Spanish were enterpreneurs in exploiting those natives to mine the gold, and then shipped the gold home to Spain.
but today, those sunken gold and other treasures are not under Spanish jurisdiction, and thus sovereignty of independent countries apply and Spain cannot lay claim to those lost treasures.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@vincentyeo88 see thing is that every single country got wealth by exploiting and stealing, now back then it wasn't any BIG THING to colonize land and push it's natives out. The U.S. did it. Basically the history belongs either internationally between spain the U.S. and the treaure finders, or in a museum. Its a country's history.
bannanatube 1 year ago
@bannanatube right, those exploiting colonial days are over and international laws apply today. legal arbitration is the order of the day if any country does not recognize finder's keeper for treasure hunting.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@bannanatube Why should Spain have any claim to the treasure ?
They were STEALING it from South America !
I say finders KEEPERS !!!
hunter69denys 1 year ago
@bannanatube you are correct. My country is one of those who were rob of our own natural wealth. Now, there is a Greatest and Historical Opportunity on the horizon and it's near.
empressvkaren 1 year ago
If you find treasure, don't tell anyone...
joel1923 1 year ago
@joel1923 right, unless you want to share it or give it away.
vincentyeo88 1 year ago
@shqipeztuning You know the funniest thing of all, is Spain still tries to claim the Gold and wants the teasure hunters to give the gold to them. What a joke.
flubno 1 year ago
this is it?? where is the other video?
merdheng 1 year ago
@guapgueezee Most of us know this but it doesnt keep the big mouth ignorants quiet. I'm sure you have your share too. You do the same thing by saying "you English speaking whites" lol.. What a ridiculous distinction. You might call me that as well regardless of my largely Italian heritage, I look white and live in the U.S.
Yep, we kicked the Indians asses and took the land lol, get over it.
guitarplayer4real 1 year ago
@guitarplayer4real I dont care about the indians I am pointing out a hypocritical statement.. and as an Italian you were just recently considered white in America so get over it yourself.. English speaking-Anglo Saxons not you who came here and adapted ok? Anglos always say that the Spanish were evil murderes of the Indigenous yet Latin America is full of Indians..You said it yourself dummy you didnt just kick their asses you intentionally depopulated them from their land yet talk shit about Spa
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guapgueezee I have nothing against a super nation like Spain, WTF are you talking about:-p
I'm a survival of the fittest proponent and I see Spain as an awesome force, back then and today. However, I was just being mean about any reference towards depopulation of any peoples. Personally I love a nation that kicks ass, to bad America has chosen not to be that any longer with its new neophite leadership. Think I'll move to Spain!
guitarplayer4real 1 year ago
@guitarplayer4real Spare me.. so now you blame obama for the pussyfication of America? its being happening since way back when.. kick ass means WINNING not neverending battles.. like vietnam we kicked ass in WW2 and 1776
guapgueezee 1 year ago
Youy're an idiot! Obama and his supporters are the bleeding heart shitbag types like you, long on lip service and short on action who make it so we cant "win wars" because liberal fucks hold this nation down. Everyone has a F'n issue! I'll stomp the guts out of you and go take a nap while medics scoop up the mess, pussyfied indeed. Dont worry about America being able to finish a war and I dont give a shit about your Latin rantings and problems, nor your opinion of me.
guitarplayer4real 1 year ago
@guitarplayer4real you dont know who i support because I said it was happening before him means I support him? I support America and it's survival you ugly social reject..you are a typical wingnut who cares about red and blue not the country..cuts for military spending have been happening on both sides I have people in Afghanistan yu dumb fuck that have been shitted on by our government since shock and awe started so it isnt a liberal thing. I worry about America because I live here you faggot.
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guitarplayer4real continued. also I dont have latin problens you loser I am responding to a video the way you are if you dont like it eat shit.. Ill stomp the shit out of your mother daughter and take a shit on your granma's grave while I am at it and if you knew anything liberal and neo cons BOTH keep the country down libs with political correctness and extreme pacifism and neo cons selling us out to China and India etc.. you cant fuck with me u homo YOU have serious issues like lack of educat
guapgueezee 1 year ago
I dont care about the indians I am pointing out a hypocritical statement.. and as an Italian you were just recently considered white in America so get over it yourself.. English speaking-Anglo Saxons not you who came here and adapted ok? Anglo always say that the Spanish were evil murderers of the Indigenous yet Latin America is full of Indians..You said it yourself dummy you didnt just kick their asses you intentionally depopulated them from their land yet talk shit about Sp
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guitarplayer4real when people say english speaking whites in regards to this vid I mean anglo saxons who have made it their mission to besmirch all things latin.. and because they won dominance over spain they have been consistent in miseducating people.. ask any American even of Latin heritage like YOU yes Italy is Italian and they all talk about the Spanish in a dark way.. look up the black legend.. I notice it
guapgueezee 1 year ago
SANQ!!! are you serious dude? the native americans would all be dead? killed all the buffalo? you are dumber than the average bear huh? we gave the natives wonderful things like smallpox, muskets, and alcoholism....IDIOT!!!
maciverandy 2 years ago 2
@maciverandy Im tired of all this crying about the Native Americans. Go ask them today if they would want to trade their nice modern living standard nowadays where they don't have to work or pay taxes for the miserable tribe life they had 300 yrs ago when their life depended on hunting or rain for their crops, also the constant fights between tribes.
themailman43 1 year ago
Y mientras el resto del mundo con esos dólareh devaluados al nivel del betún...papel mojado. :(
OGcoastless 2 years ago
Es una vergüenza cómo cambiais la historia, incluso hoy en día, una lástima...
La última el Odyssey, a plena luz del día! ;)
OGcoastless 2 years ago 8
Yarr matey, let me at yerr hidden booty, Yarr...
PsionNinja 2 years ago
lol how come spanish armada's always sunk:P? i mean i hear spanish treasure ships everywhere...i never hear a english or dutch treasure ship who were very active on sea during that time :P can't those conquistador's protect their ships or what xD
vetteed 2 years ago
haha! perhaps at that time, they made lousy cannon and overloaded their ships with too many cannonballs and goldbars.
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
Maybe because their ships were everyewhere...
Firentis 2 years ago
@vetteed There's plenty of english and dutch ships that sunk too during that time, the only thing is that they didn't have anything of much value in them, therefore nobody cares much. On the other hand Spanish ships had a lot of treasure and those are the ones that interest Gold Seekers and treasure divers today.
themailman43 1 year ago
no part 2?
13loodshed 2 years ago
Why would you claim the treasure ? When people find treasure the government comes in and takes alot of it leaving you a small percentage. Some times the government gives it back to spain. Why don't people just keep all the teasure for themselves and sell on black market ?
flubno 2 years ago
why keep all those treasures when you can give something back to society and make history and a name for yourself?
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
screw society, just show me the money
flubno 2 years ago
show you the money? are you working hard for it?
go look for your own treasure! the world owns you nothing!
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
@vincentyeo88 The world owes me nothing, and in turn I owe the world nothing. That's why i would keep all the money for my self ! If i was the one doing all the work lookin for gold at the bottom of the ocean, i would give nothing to the government. If you want to get Noble about it, you should give the gold & silver back to the Native Americans.
flubno 2 years ago
you live in North America (land of the Native Americans), that's your problem. i ain't living there.
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
@flubno The Native Americans gold and silver? WHere would they be right now if it wasn't for us? Probably starving because they killed off all the buffalo anyway. We owe them nothing now.
sanQ 2 years ago
@sanQ Where would they be ? probably alive for starters. They europeans killed off all the Buffalo on purpose because the natives used them as a major food source.
flubno 2 years ago
it has been said that there is over 2 billion tonnes of gold under the water
gunz1and2rozez3boy4 2 years ago
now go fetch it!
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
Fisher's motto was always:
"Today's the day!"
artcarlson 2 years ago 2
right on, today's the day!
go for it! everyday is a new dawn to look for treasures!
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
WHAT DID HE ANNOUNCE TO HIS CREW!!! This is the key to finding the treasure!!!
Pigratcroc 2 years ago
Finders keepers loosers weepers!! Spain basically killed for the gold, if someone finds any Spanish gold or Silver then they should keep it, Espana fue y ha sido un pais de Ladrones y asesinos desde los 1400's , Cortez fue uno de los primeros .. Espana , pais de amantes de lo ajeno desde 1450 , i aun siguen! ..
Ortizhastalascachas 2 years ago
right! i don't know much about treasure hunting law of USA or Spain. but here in Singapore, it's finders keepers as long as it is not on private property.
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
Ortiz hasta las cachas,no debes de ser muy "ortiz" si hablas asi de España,tu apellido lo debes a España y seguramente debas mucho mas a España. En mi pais los hay amantes de lo ajeno,pero en tu pais o cualquier pais de HISPANOamerica los hay muchos mas,ladrones,asesinos,violadores etc etc,secuestros,narcos y eso en pleno siglo 21.Ah y el oro lo cambiabamos por espejitos heheh o caballos y vuestras mujeres se ofrecian,no tenemos culpa de que eso pasara.
maicolin 2 years ago 8
@maicolin por favor mira come tu querida espana dejo a esos paises.. destrozados sin nada.. ustedes fueron a sacar la plata y el oro no a vivir como lon ingleses.. por eso es que tus colonias se quedaron como merda.. lo unico que pueden hacer es tartar de lucir como espanoles.. y lamber le el culo a espana.. lee tu historia por favor despues vengas a hablar..
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guapgueezee . "No a vivir como los ingleses". Es cierto, los ingleses se quedaron a vivir, pero a un precio muy alto que por tus palabras parece que te gusta: matando a miles de hombres, mujeres y niños nativos. Esa es la historia oculta de Norteamérica, esa que los ingleses se han encargado de tapar a lo largo de los siglos. Ah, y destrozados sin nada, díselo, por ejemplo, a los haitianos que sabrás o te lo digo yo, que estuvieron en la órbita francesa.
Precuto 1 year ago
@Precuto no lo niego.. estoy solamente diciendo la verdad.. los norteamericanos han pagado el precio pero aqui yo puedo ser lo que sea.. en latino america la vida as como una novela.. los indigenos i morenos abajo con un elite blanco que ellos sirven la vida en latino america es linda cuando tu vas a vivir alla con dinero norteamericano.. pero todavia tienen la mentalidad de hace 500 anos atraz.. eso es el problema..si lees mis otros posts acerca de espana yo la defiendo con capa y espada
guapgueezee 1 year ago
mi querida espana dejo esos paises destrozados sin nada?
No fuimos ahi a vivir como los ingleses? y entonces porque hay tantos millones de criollos en Hispano america? nosotros ademas nos mestizamos,cosa que los demas europeos ni se lo plantearon. Tu? no sabes nada,y me dices ami que yo lea mi historia? tu eres un cinico y un necio. A ver,que no hicimos nada alli? te parece poco fundar y formar paises? la lengua? tecnologia,hospitales,escuelas,iglesias,ciudades enteras etc etc
maicolinn 1 year ago
why is it always about the spaniards
greenooze1500 2 years ago
why? have you checked out the title called Spanish Armada Treasure?
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
its beacause the spaniars colonized south america and their ships were full of gold and some of them sinked with all the gold
Pocomocoloco 2 years ago
@Pocomocoloco south and north america.. evenup to valdez alaska.. now keeping the colonies was another story... and some ships sank but the losses came from pirates your kind so admire that were thugs and robbed the ships aat gunpoint.. u know the same anglos who bestowed that culture of thuggery on blacks then wonder why
guapgueezee 1 year ago
los tesoros deben de ser del pais donde se acuñaron las monedas y una parte para el que las recupera.
guanagil 2 years ago
Te equivocas el oro pertenece al propietario del oro, es decir España.
Sabes tu si el oro era Peruano, Boliviano... por la acuñación?
Te recuerdo que eran monedas españolas, acuñadas por España, no por Perú.
moledo69 2 years ago 2
Como creo que sabes , Perú , Colombia o Méjico eran colonias en las que se acuñaban monedas con el oro y la plata que se sacaban de sus minas y se mandaban en barcos hacia la península y creo que es de justicia que se devuelva a esos países de donde provenían esos barcos y más en esto tiempos.
guanagil 2 years ago
Esos paises que tu mencionas NO EXISTIAN,tenian otros nombres,excepto el Pero,Los demas? Nueva Granada y Nueva España y no eran "colonias" eran un trocito de España. El oro tendria que ser parte para quien lo descubre y parte para España y parte para el pais en el cual se encuentra. Pero no de donde venia el oro,ese oro alomejor se cambio por ESPEJITOS o VIDRIOS o CABALLOS.O quizás venia de Asia,Filipinas.
maicolin 2 years ago 2
amazing story! who wants to go with me and look for it! hey guys today is the day! why put off for tomorrow what you can do today! lets go do it!
brettheart911 2 years ago
What the Europeans did to the North and South American natives was deplorable
ottvalley 2 years ago
get it right south american indians are the ones you see ju,mpin the fence and into the US the indians of the north are gone cos the british wiped em out Spain didnt wipe em out n thats a shame cos they are scum
JorgeLorenzo99Rules 2 years ago
Pues de esto hace ya mucho no? Y que hace el gobierno español para reclamar los muchos tesoros que estos piratas tienen en su poder? NADA
MarcosValdelagrana 2 years ago
La junta de andalucia ,dio permiso a la archifamosa empresa Odissey y llevaban años en las costas españolas y en concreto desde el estrecho hasta el cabo de san vicente en Portugal y no se enteraron de lo que sacaron hasta que salió en la prensa y entonces fue cuando salieron a decir que los barcos eran españoles y que los reclamaban.¿donde está quien controla estas actividades ?
guanagil 2 years ago
Yo como español y conociendo el interes de las autoridades españolas en recuperar los tesoros que venian a España desde las colonias de ultramar , italia deberia tomar la misma postura que mi pais y reclamar todos los pecios de epoca romana que hay hundido en las costas españolas , que no son pocos . La politica del ministerio de cultura de mi pais deja mucho que desear , es una verguenza.
guanagil 2 years ago
WHY ? why to look for that treasure when there is the treasures of the North Kingdoms of the Inca's empire. According to books expeditions and proofs there is hundreds of tones of Inca's gold mostly from The Last Inca Capital: Quito where Atahualpa the last emperor born and governed. There is not remains of the capital. Because the city was burned and its treasure hidded by Ruminahui a Inca general. The gold is in the Llanganatis Mountains, ECUADOR, people who go there do no come out alive.
Ecuapana 2 years ago
"...people who go there do no come out alive."
very interesting indeed! let see you try going there yourself before you tell others to go there.
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
Henry Kamen argues that Spain does not deserve blame for all of the actions of the Spanish Empire. According to his book, the Spanish Empire was a multinational enterprise, incorporating armaments from Milan, Genoese and German bankers, foreign sailors, German and Italian soldiers, Native American allies, and English and Chinese merchants.
Precuto 2 years ago
@Precuto and jewish slave traders.. gomes perez and lopez being the biggest ones.. lest we forget that due to the rampant anti semitism many jews chose to seek fortune in the slave trade to escape the harrowing life in spain and came to the new world.. no it isnt anti semetic to say this.. just true.. everyone has done dirt
guapgueezee 1 year ago
todays the day
esuess88 2 years ago
right, today's the day.
go for it!
vincentyeo88 2 years ago
What happened in 1805?
DFreshter 3 years ago
thank you for the history lesson.
vincentyeo88 3 years ago
wheres the second part xD
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
How much Gold did the Spaniards take from the South americans in total?
JoTheWelder 3 years ago
you read all about those successful treasure hunts from sunken shipwrecks, and you can get an idea about the huge amount of gold shipped across the Atlantic Ocean.
vincentyeo88 3 years ago
more than 20 trillions XD! not just from south america , but rather , central ,south and north america
EUsuperstate 3 years ago
Spain built their 'Golden Age' on the genocide of Native Americans and the theft of gold obtained through blood , slavery and slaughter ! 40 years after the Spanish landed in S. America they had murdered 1/3 of the native population . The pretext for this is that they refused to 'pay tribute'. They enslaved Indians in the mines and worked them to death for gold. Their greed was beyond measure as was their ruthlessness ! Now they want the gold back that they stole and murdered for !
vilhammer44 3 years ago
So what. You English speaking whites kill me.. YOUR GOLDEN AGE devastated the WORLD. Africa the United States India China.. BE FOR REAL LOOK IN THE MIRROR BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT THE SPANISH... INDIAN REMOVAL ACTS AND SO ON... YOU INTENTIONALLY KILLED THE INDIANS UNDER THE SPANISH IT WAS LACK OF RESISTANCE TO DISEASE NOT INTENTIONAL SMALLPOX BLANKETS. THE SPANISH KEPT IT REAL YOU SPEAK WITH TWO FACES KNOW YOUR HISTORY ALL OF YOU WERE COLONIZING ASSHOLES AND BENEFOT FRO IT TO TODAY.
guapgueezee 2 years ago 3
@guapgueezee boo!
Treadsoftly14 1 year ago
@Treadsoftly14 boo what? I dont get it.. you know I am right so you cannot answer me..
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guapgueezee guess what? boo! you suck. nobody cares.
Treadsoftly14 1 year ago
@Treadsoftly14 you care enough to keep replying now move on please.. I only talk to those who can formulate a real response..I suck becaue you have ZERO knowledge of history and point out your hypocrisy and lies? you hate educated Latins anbd Blacks .. you cant feed us bullshit other than make racist insults or say we suck.. you cant touch me bud and people do care it affects many t this day..so go ahead and sleep while you act as if the world doenst notice what you are about..
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@guapgueezee shame on you for thinking i would read that
Treadsoftly14 1 year ago
funny u should say this lol u no shame bastard wiped the indians out we didnt thats why spanish is associated with non white people those are indians u fuckin retard those emigratin to the US most south americans are of heavy indian stock u retard get a clue slanderin dummy
JorgeLorenzo99Rules 2 years ago
well said, some right moronic monkey comments on this thread, jeesh.
Ganbareg 2 years ago
@vilhammer44 So i supposed the English and Americans treated the Native Americans better, lol.
themailman43 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the greatest treasure story is to gain Jesus, who gives eternal life to all who love his appearing.turn to Jesus look and live.Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners
bibliosca 3 years ago
you're entitled to your own opinion about any religion but please do not preach any sermon here.
this video clip is a short documentary about history of gold and it isn't about any religion.
vincentyeo88 3 years ago
number2, number2, number2, number2.
athom12 3 years ago
who does number 2 work for
joefield11 3 years ago
waaaaaaa, i want the second part, waaaaaaaaa
iluvgtasan 3 years ago 2
i was into that =(
Xpako73X 3 years ago 2
WTF I was into that
HappyJackSlade 3 years ago 2
Its not easy not to get obsessed, theres a true illness between men(I'm Just Quoting some of what General Cortes said during his exile from the golden city of Tenochtitlan in which later he returned by force) ´´its called the gold fever which I suffer dearly, men lose their sleep and appetite and think of nothing other than the wealth that awaits them in their awaken dream''.
Chokula99 3 years ago
ahh i was getting so into that and it stopped.. upload the second part haha
lachat2007 3 years ago 2
upload the second part for us plz
whitehunter01 3 years ago
Yeah, wheres the second part? where's the "Spanish Armada Treasure 2"?? haven't you uploaded it yet? please give us the link if you have =D
condorlegion89 3 years ago 4
i live in florida man i got to go tresure huntin
sharky1207 4 years ago 3
you tube:
Blas de Lezo. The life of a true Sea Wolf.
This is among 100 of other battles that they don´t teach you.
El7IncA 4 years ago 3
wheres the second part!!!!! :O
partition00 4 years ago 5