After two additional years of research at HudsonRand, I've come to the conclusion that there are no divisions in the armed forces of the world. At the top, they are all run by interdimensional reptillian entities. Odd, I know. There is more to be said, for sure.
Since Water Boarding is not torture according to Bush we should Water Board George Bush and see how he likes it. I bet I could make him Confess to shooting John F Kennedy and killing Malcolm X.
I dont know what people think. You can do whatever you want in the world, but when u die...How will you answer for the unimaginable acts you have done towards other people that have done nothing to deserve this. God help us all.
Who fucked with who? Why are people still so ignorant about these issues when the truth came out years ago. Ofcourse, the government tries their best to hide it from everyone but fortunately its the digital age. The US government fucked with their own people and the rest of the world. If you don't know this, you haven't done much other than listen to fox news. RESEARCH EVERYTHING EXTENSIVELY including watching independent documentaries. And don't say you did cause you'd be lying.
I don't know what news media you're talking about because all of the news channels I watched and newspapers I read covered that situation extensively. Plus, a lot of the world media claimed that it was actually Georgia who made the first aggressive move against the Russians.
It's horrible. Russia torturing and killing Georgan's. Far worse than aything that happened in Afganistan or Iraq. Take to the streets and chant 'no blood for oil in Georgia'. Stop the illegal occupation of Georgia by Russia.
America is a brainless dog. Barks and bites everything that comes along. No matter if its the best option or they used to be friends with (I remember Rumsfeld shaking Saddams hand), if they are wrong or verified their information. They bite instantly. Just behaviour of a country thats scared. The only problem is that this powerfull dog can bite very nasty. Brainless nevertheless. And they get away with it. Shame!
'saddam's Iraq' is a brainless dog. Barks and bites everything that comes along. No matter if its the best option or they used to be friends with (I remember Rumsfeld shaking Saddams hand), if they are wrong or verified their information. They bite instantly. Just behaviour of a country thats scared. The only problem is that this powerfull dog can bite very nasty. Brainless nevertheless. And they get away with it. Shame!
This essay works with 2 words changed. And makes more sense.
Ur absolutely right till the last sentence 'and they get away with it'. Saddam is a bastard and got punished for it. Powell and especially Rumsfeld are still shaking hands. Bush cant be blaimed cause he doesnt have a clou what he s saying the poor bastard.
True, the world caught up with saddam. But Powell, Rumsfield and Bush are the ones enforcing Resolution 1441. They can't be prosecuted for carrying out the UN's punishment on saddam.
Bush says what he is going to do and then does it. That's what pisses you off more than anything, right, noutis?
Rather than interpreting this as America bashing rather you should see it as defending America from debasement and violation of its own constitution by a self-interested, currupt and duplicitous cabale. And logically, if the 'inviolate' principles of the American constitiion are not worth defending.. then there is no America to defend.
If by 'evil people' the video refers to the terrorists then I agree. Logically, if America is attacked and we fight back anywhere in the world we are defending America.
We didn't start it but we sure as f#ck are going to end it.
Yemen: 8-year-old Nojud Mohammed Ali has been granted a divorce. The girl initially signed a marriage contract with the understanding that she would remain with her parents until she was 18 but she was sent to live with her husband a week later. Her ex, Faez Ali Thameur, 28 told Judge Mohammed al-Qadhi that the marriage had been consented to by both the girl and her parents. He said that the marriage had been consummated but denied beating her.
YOU ARE ONE RETARDED BRAINWASHED FUCK-ASS ANTI-AMERICAN,PRO-FASCIAST,ANTI-CONSTITUTION,WORTHLESS,GODLESS,HEARTLESS PAWN.Please commit suicide NOW!!!!
"He said "The way I see it, it had to be the rivets" but the conspiracy sites remove this important insight. They skipped over the sentence. There is only one reason to do something like that. To mislead the reader by removing all other possibilities for the sounds."
Also, Isaac directly addressed the gag order placed on firemen and police officers in Szymanski's article: "It's amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs," said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.
Hundreds? They were held until they were not a threat to society. Obviously they had a trial to be released.
If you are speaking of the innocents kidnapped and tortured by extremist arabs? Those that were beheaded and murdered? Those that fill the mass graves? I feel sorry for those poor souls and THEIR MURDERERS SHOULD BE EQUALLY OR MORE TORTURED AND KILLED!!!!!
I sometimes think its sad how a large proportion of the American public still believes their country's propaganda. Many in the rest of the world sneer at their blind faith in their government. I wonder what American "patriots" would think if they knew George W. Bush recently bought a 98,840 acre ranch in Paraguay near the borders with Bolivia and Brazil, for a quick get-a-way in case GWB or his cronies are indicted for their crimes.
Hi, mahammadabba, the story broke in October 2006 and it's all over the internet. Google: Bush Paraguay for yourself and count the hits. While you're at it, Google: Businessman's Coup, Smedley Butler, Prescott Bush and Trading With The Enemy to find out about the origins of the Bush family fortune. As for my level of gullibility, well, all I can say is we only know what we're told, and some of us aren't told very much. Cheers.
"The news (rumor) circulating the continent about plans to buy 98,840 acres"
I did google it and every nutcase Bush-hating internet publisher was parroting the same rumor. Do you actually believe everything you read on the internet?
Just more conspiracy imagination running wild and free. Keep up the laughs, though.
By the way, Bush hasn't been impeached. Just wanted to make that clear.
ignoramus because he ignores the scientifically provable (or disprovable) fact that Iron metal itself burns, and that when amassed in large piles can ignite fires (and can even melt itself). The article discusses child-safe experiments observing a very slow oxidation of iron (rusting at room temperature), but also mentions:"Sometimes a big load of iron in a ship can get hot. The heat can even set other materials on fire. That's because the iron is rusting, which means ~
If you can believe that iron as a fuel source is MORE PLAUSIBLE than thermite, then go ahead.
I am finished with you. Let me tell you what the future holds. There will be a One World Government that is going to force everyone to take a micro chip. We will not be able to buy or sell without this chip.
I must have made my point regarding your 'melting metal' question for you to give up.
My future is bright and shiny. America is in a down economic cycle right now and will be up soon.
How logical is the 'one world government'? The world is a big place and there are billions of people that have to be converted to the new government - and that is next to impossible.
Microchip? Isn't that what credit cards are? Why do we even need cash anymore?
America is in an economic crisis which will have people rioting in the streets. The stock market is going to crash. The dollar is going to be destroyed. We will have to switch to a "Euro-style" common currency between Canada and Mexico.
There will be one world government. Clinton, Bush, and Obama are all for it.
No, the microchip is a small device, the size of a grain of rice, which is injected into the arm. It has GPS tracking capability. Credit cards were an important predecessor.
1. Could you tell me what rioting in the streets will accomplish?
2. The dollar is backed by America's economy, just like the peso is backed by Mexico's economy (+ USA's foreign aid) and every other welfare country in the world.
3. Why would we want to support 6 billion more welfare cases (1 world gov)?
4. Could you explain to me the importance of a common currency? Since I can exchange dollars, loonies and peso's without prejudice why is it necessary for a single currency?
2. The dollar is a fiat currency. It is not backed by anything. It is a category error to say an economy backs a currency. Whether or not you have a good economy does not have any bearing on whether or not you have a fiat or gold standard currency. You can only back a currency with assets.
3. This comment shows you really don't understand what I am saying.
4. To break down national sovereignty the New World Order will eliminate national currencies.
2. The American dollar was backed by Gold until Nixon took us off the gold standard in the early 70's. Also, Hugo Chavez has currency based upone the oil in Venezuela.
3. They will combine Canada, Mexico, and US into the SPP North American Union (see Lou Dobbs). South American will be brought into this eventually. The European nations have been combined under the EU. There will also be an Asian Union. I don't think Africa will fair to well.
2. I didn't ask when America got off the gold standard. I asked which countries backed their currency by anything. 'oil' is not like gold held in Fort Knox, it is pumped and sold daily and not 'held as collateral for currency'. Does it say 'this note can be traded for oil'?????
3. 'They' will combine Northern America? Who is 'they'? Mexico wants our money and then left alone to produce pot. Canada hates our 'peace through strength' military.
4. currency is relative to the price of gold no matter what. The dollar might not be backed by gold but it can be used to buy gold. Last I checked gold can't be eaten so it's worth whatever someone will pay you for it.
The point of the gold standard is that they can not print more money unless there is gold added to the treasury.
With our present fiat currency, the Fed can keep authorizing more money to be put into circulation. This causes inflation. The dollar has lost a lot of its power against other currencies. This means that all your money that you have saved is devalued. Your pay check is worth less. It destroys an economy.
I guess if you believe that there is a microchip that keeps someone from buying or selling something that you could believe that Building 7 was imploded.
The way the microchip system will be set up is that each store will have these sensors which will pick up on what you leave the store with. It will automatically deduct what you take out of your checking account. You will not need receipts or even a clerk to scan products.
This chip will be the only accepted medium of exchange when conducting business.
No chip, no products. Just check out all the youtube videos that show this chip already in use.
Sure, this chip will be worldwide. 3rd world countries will embrace this technology. Just think, Africa will be prosperous as America. Right after they quit killing each other and starving to death. Everything on the internet is real, right???? Just like the Building 7 conspiracy.
Someone had 100 tons of granite carved into a monument. The guy was part of the Rosicrucianist. This is what the global elite are calling for. Prince Phillip said he wanted the population culled by over 80%
Did you bother reading the message they left? And that was for a future generation after a 'holocaust'? They said that in that event the earth's population should not exceed 500 million (for whatever reason is beyond me).
What problem do you have with someone exercising their free speech? If you want to shut someone up why not go after algore? He's the nuttiest psyco-ecoterrorist there is.
Looked deeper into the stones. Nice that someone made a stonehedge here. Funny how these 10 'suggestions' don't even relate to the 10 commandments. In fact, if the world lived by the 10 real commandments of the bible there would be no problems in this world.
You will see a man come as a peacemaker who will create a treaty with warring factions. This leader will eventually cause everyone to receive a microchip, without which you can not buy or sell.
many people will want their microchips. That is the nature of a cow. They are perfectly happy with living a life which has no greater purpose than to feed those over them.
Hi, AreYouKiddinMelol, I don't know about microchips or ID cards, but, for the record:
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." (Revelation 13: 16-18 NIV)
First marked, then what happens? I need to know because I have to plan my retirement. If we are going to become antichristed to death I might as well max out my credit cards, right?
Dave, do you go to bible study every sunday or do you just have all the good parts marked?
Professor Jones' comments and conjectures about the origin of the alleged molten iron found within the three huge piles of combustible matter burning after the collapse of the WTC towers, distinctly prove that Professor Jones is oblivious of the fact that Iron Burns in air.
For perspective, I found this children's educational webpage that further illustrates that "Professor Jones" (among the "9-11 Scholars") is an incompetent ~"
But Professor Jones obviously does not comprehend that the hot, red-hot and molten IRON IS COMBUSTIBLE matter. Here, Jones clearly missed it, when he wrote:
"At these temperatures, steel will melt, and aluminum materials from the buildings should continue to undergo exothermic oxidation reactions with materials also entrained in the molten metal pools including metal oxides which will then keep the pools molten and even growing for weeks despite radiative and ~"
The only likely source of the heat great enough to actually "melt" significant quantities of iron in the piles (or even just raise so much of it to red-hot or to 2000F) would be chemical energy. Professor Jones assumes that all the carbonaceous "combustible" matter in the "piles" would have burned away long before the time that the red-hot and molten iron was discovered (weeks after the collapse of the WTC towers). Perhaps it did, by weeks after the collapse.
The only likely source of the heat great enough to actually "melt" significant quantities of iron in the piles (or even just raise so much of it to red-hot or to 2000F) would be chemical energy. Professor Jones assumes that all the carbonaceous "combustible" matter in the "piles" would have burned away long before the time that the red-hot and molten iron was discovered (weeks after the collapse of the WTC towers). Perhaps it did, by weeks after the collapse.
Here is another fallacy of relevance. This issue has no bearing on what we were discussing. You attempt to shift the argument to another topic and accuse your opponent of asserting some absurd premise.
I can tell you still don't get it. I was showing you what an example of a complex question was. It is a logical fallacy. You seem to think it is a valid argument form.
"I can tell you still don't get it. I was showing you what an example of a complex question was. It is a logical fallacy. You seem to think it is a valid argument form."
I outsmarted your fool question and you won't admit it.
I looked up logical fallacy and saw your picture in the description. It also referenced 'conspiracy theory fool' and that also had your picture in the description.
Using the simple formula F=Ma it can be shown that an aircraft plunging into a building can produce extreme forces. Now using pv=mrt the force of that collision can produce temperatures in excess of 2750 degrees F.
I am saying airplanes ARE made of aluminum, but no molten aluminum was found. They found molten iron with sulfur traces.
The buildings collapsed from the top down because they ran explosive charges in a series which made the top layers explode first. The plan was to claim it was a pancake collapse, but unfortunately many firefighters heard the explosions and testified that someone put bombs in the buildings and that it was a controlled demolition.
The beams breaking and concrete fracturing might have sounded like bombs going off. The firefighters were running around confused with helmets on and listening to walkie-talkies and they were a quarter mile or more away from the top of the building.
As the building collapsed it would push down the conduit, beams, glass into the basement and was confused as explosions?
So you claim it was all 'planned' by someone who set charges without anyone knowing or seeing? Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Perhaps the concrete breaking did sound like bombs going off. This is worth a serious consideration. However, there were explosions in the basement that knocked people off their feet and sent them flying. Witnesses three floors down testified to this. Others testified to ground level explosions which blasted out windows.
The testimonies by many people show that bombs are the only plausible explanation.
And the beams extended to the basement (even though this references physics and not logic) and the beams had to hold up the whole building - air pressure of the collapsing building would be forced toward the basement through the elevator shafts.
'Explosion sounds' were mistaken. Sounds were there but they can be explained by building design (and logic, if you insist).
You are one stupid man. I don't even know what in the F that means for logic to overshadow physics.
You got me. I don't understand your monkey talk. I am a real scholar.
I do understand physics because not only have I had classes in physics, I studied under the chair of the philosophy department who had advanced degrees in physics and philosophy. I did philosophy of science.
You are making logical fallacies in your argument. That was my point. It has nothing to do with physics.
I am merely critiquing the structure of your arguments. You keep making really poor arguments. It isn't even to the level of deductive validity. You are making tons of inductive fallacies, fallacies of relevance.
This is a wholly separate issue from the discussion of the physical evidence. Why do you still not get it?
When you miss the point of my arguments and accuse me of saying something I did not say, or change my argument, then I am going to point it out.
Well, since I took more logic than the average philosophy professor, and I studied independently under the main logic professor at my university and received A's in every class, I think I will disregard your ignorant comment.
Especially coming from someone who commits a fallacy of relevance nearly every post and says insanely dumb crap like "logic works with people".
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds to an expert in logic?
I hear none of the Germans during World War II bad mouthed the Nazis. Oh wait, I forgot about all the heroes like Corry ten Boom. They locked her up in a concentration camp because she was a Christian missionary saving Jews.
I guess we both have something in common with the people of that era.
Ok, so besides not criticizing what our troops do, what do you actually DO POSITIVELY to support the troops.
Persons can not be "questionable". Propositions are the kinds of things which we question, thus being appropriate for having the property of being questionable.
I know a lot about the Gulf war. I have had two history classes on the Middle East at the university I graduated from.
Why would you assume I do not know anything about it? If you hadn't noticed I am extremely intelligent and you are not so much.
In order to have good arguments, they need to be free of logical fallacies. For example, when I say your argument has a logical fallacy. You should take from that the very important principle that your argument needs to address the actual point instead of intentionally missing the point.
I don't even know what the hell it would mean for logic to bypass laws of thermodynamics. That is freaking retarded man. You are one dumb man.
What does it mean to "logic one's way out of..."???
How can one talk physics to you when you claim that the laws of physics weren't in effect on 9/11 and logic can explain why the laws of thermodynamics were stopped for a day.
Here is another logical fallacy. I never made any such statements. You misrepresent my claims by making a caricature out of them, then you argue against the ridiculous statement YOU MADE!
Here is another logical fallacy. I never made any such statements. You misrepresent my claims by making a caricature out of them, then you argue against the ridiculous statement YOU MADE!
I don't know why I am being accused of supporting Saddam. I disapprove of Saddam because I disapprove of rape, murder, torture.
You approve of rape, murder, and torture when we do it to brown people with towels on their heads, so it is you that has to explain to me why don't you like Saddam when he did exactly what Americans do now in the "War on Terror".
You have the inconsistent position. I am against anyone who does those things.
I never approved of the few American individuals that acted on their own and were imprisoned. Why do you say I approve of it?
Our legal interrogation is what you consider 'torture'.
So were you against saddam enough to remove him from power, or could you live with his rape, murder and torture because it was done against brown turbin heads?
Just as a side note- my friend and I do not celebrate any holidays, except one which we decided to found. It is Saddam Hussein's death day. So, keep in mind I do not like Saddam. So you can stop telling me that I do. You just sound like a completely unreasonable person when you do that crap.
Rape, murder, and torture are totally commonplace among these detainee camps. The reason is that there is ZERO accountability because they have had their rights taken away.
"Rape, murder, and torture are totally commonplace among these detainee camps. The reason is that there is ZERO accountability because they have had their rights taken away."
And you know this firsthand because you have been there?
Again, you have described saddam's prisons. Feel pretty good now?
Good for you. Was the American interrogator a murderous rapist, like you have stated they all are? How many terrorists did he personally strip, attack with dogs and waterboard?
I would be happy to keep teaching you about your fallacies of relevance until you come to be a full human being.
Dealing with you gives me the same feeling I got when I watched that one movie with Howie Mandel where he thawed out of the ice. Something like "Bobo".
You pinheaded un-intellectual types crack me up. So now that I have answered your question let me ask you, have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or no?
If you strip people of their Constitutional rights, put guards in power who are told to treat the people harshly because they are "terrorists", then you create an environment where rape, torture, and murder are INEVITABLE results. The top level leaders in America are just loving it. Torture is taught to Abu Gharib and Guantanamo guards by CIA torture experts.
This state of affairs IS the result of your ideals in practice.
If you strip people of their Constitutional rights, put guards in power who are told to treat the people harshly because they are "terrorists", then you create an environment where rape, torture, and murder are INEVITABLE results. The top level leaders in America are just loving it. Torture is taught to Abu Gharib and Guantanamo guards by CIA torture experts.
This state of affairs IS the result of your ideals in practice."
You have just described saddam's Iraq to a 'T'. How does that feel?
The acts you describe was committed by a few American military individuals and they were charged and imprisoned and IT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE. That's what America does to it's rogue criminals. Can you say it's happened since? Why or why not? It's like blaming all Americans for 2 guys killing a college student.
How is it that saddam was allowed to openly torture and kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's (beheadings, hangings, executions, families disappearing in the dead of the night, 8 year war with Iran to name a FEW)? NoT one person opposing the Iraq liberation spoke up about ONE of these.
America torture: Barking dogs (horrors) naked prisoners (whoa, nellie, cover that bump) Giving them korans and prayer rugs (infidel) isolation on Guantanamo (gaining 20 pounds)?
I guess that would explain it. You actually care about terrorists just as you have now admitted. But why do you care about them so much?
I value the lives of people who are innocent. I guess that is where we differ.
As to people who were held in Guantanamo and held without trial, yet found innocent, I would say that if someone is held for 5 years while the government investigates and interrogates them then SAYS "WE FIND NO EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU", this means they were found innocent.
I know they are FOUND innocent by our government when OUR GOVERNMENT says "they were found to have no evidence against them." Also, we are supposed to consider people innocent UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.
There are 2 reasons why they are to be considered innocent. We should have evidence gathered and then presented in a court of law, which should be either public, or the transcripts should be released.
According to the Constitution ALL MEN have Constitutional rights given BY GOD!
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
You asked me what the rights of those detained are, and I said that since God made them, they have inalienable rights.
I do not give a crap about the Quran. The Quran is insanely dumb and full of evil garbage.
You asked me what rights they had. I told you. They have the rights of the Constitution and these rights are grounded in man being made in the image of God, rational beings, as the founding fathers also claimed.
It is in your best interest and my best interest that we give these detainees just and speedy trials.
There is a logic game which is played with our present legislation. The Military Commission Act says that lawful enemy combatants who are not American citizens do not get Habeas Corpus. However, you can only determine if they are not American citizens if you actually give them FAIR TRIAL!
So they can grab anyone and just say they are not really citizens and torture them forever.
"According to the Constitution ALL MEN have Constitutional rights given BY GOD!"
You are stating the rights declared by Christian values.
Now let's look at the rights given by shia law. The right to beat your wife and kill her. The right to kill infidels. The right to lie to an infidel because he doesnt' believe in your religion. The right to fight a terrorist war without rules. The right to call 'shenanagins' when caught because of people like you who think they have a thought process.
After two additional years of research at HudsonRand, I've come to the conclusion that there are no divisions in the armed forces of the world. At the top, they are all run by interdimensional reptillian entities. Odd, I know. There is more to be said, for sure.
HudsonRand 7 months ago
so what
al34sureify 1 year ago
This man is a killer both of them Bush and Chaney
GODfirstChoice 1 year ago
Since Water Boarding is not torture according to Bush we should Water Board George Bush and see how he likes it. I bet I could make him Confess to shooting John F Kennedy and killing Malcolm X.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
the american government is a hideous circus run by clowns
drewsibob 1 year ago
these tortures are wanted by the ppl who have initiated it
GonG108 2 years ago
I dont know what people think. You can do whatever you want in the world, but when u die...How will you answer for the unimaginable acts you have done towards other people that have done nothing to deserve this. God help us all.
ripsnorting13 2 years ago 2
Sure, the little thugs who sign-up to serve Satan through the US military are indeed evil people.
"America is the Great Satan." Sad, but true. If only they would stay home and leave the world alone. Damned Anglo-American Zionists banks.
HudsonRand 3 years ago
@HudsonRand quote :BILL HICKS : ..."Anyone, ..dumb enough to join the military -should be allowed in "
TheMichaelseymour 7 months ago
Dick Cheney=Terrorist.
ThisGuy530 3 years ago 8
obama=Dick Cheney=Terrorist
mahammadabba 2 years ago
let us do what we have to do, they fucked with the wrong people. If we have to beat some up for some answers then we will do that
s1n001 3 years ago
But you will bitch and scream when they do it to you. Hypocrite.
LittlePinky82 3 years ago
waa waa boo hoo, hypocrites can't have a point of view waa waa boo hoo
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Who fucked with who? Why are people still so ignorant about these issues when the truth came out years ago. Ofcourse, the government tries their best to hide it from everyone but fortunately its the digital age. The US government fucked with their own people and the rest of the world. If you don't know this, you haven't done much other than listen to fox news. RESEARCH EVERYTHING EXTENSIVELY including watching independent documentaries. And don't say you did cause you'd be lying.
saadk3000 2 years ago
Is this video of the Russians attacking Georgia?
Naaa there were real atrocities happing to the Georgians by the Russians but somehow it's strangly silent in the news media....
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I don't know what news media you're talking about because all of the news channels I watched and newspapers I read covered that situation extensively. Plus, a lot of the world media claimed that it was actually Georgia who made the first aggressive move against the Russians.
Metallic7Dust 3 years ago
So there are 2 sides to this issue? Georgia was asking to get their ass kicked? Unbelievable.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
ha... are you serious? There are always two sides to every story.
Metallic7Dust 3 years ago
That's true. And both sides are equally true to both people, which is impossible because both can't be true at the same time since they are opposing.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
This is also true. I'm saying look at both sides first; do some investigating and research on both sides before you decide to make judgments.
Metallic7Dust 3 years ago
I have investigated both sides and stated my opinion. If you disagree then you should research both sides.
Later and have a nice day.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Actually no. You're wrong. Georiga was attacking their own people who consider themselves Russian.
LittlePinky82 3 years ago 4
Of course anyone with a differing opinion from yours is wrong. That's why you are always right and everyone else is wrong.
Point of view. Both sides can't be right, right?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
uhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa
America isn't giving the terrorists the civil rights of American citizens waaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa
mahammadabba 3 years ago
hey, antiwar, why so silent on Russia invading Georgia?
I guess that war is relative. America is bad for attacking terrorist nations and Russia is good for stealing oil?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
It's horrible. Russia torturing and killing Georgan's. Far worse than aything that happened in Afganistan or Iraq. Take to the streets and chant 'no blood for oil in Georgia'. Stop the illegal occupation of Georgia by Russia.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
News FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russia has invaded Georgia and has killed thousands of civillians in an illegal invasion and occupation!!!!
Why hasn't the same ashwholes that whine mabout America/Iraq are so strangely silent???
When I see someone say something about this then I will believe they care about people and are not simply Bush Bashers.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
America is a brainless dog. Barks and bites everything that comes along. No matter if its the best option or they used to be friends with (I remember Rumsfeld shaking Saddams hand), if they are wrong or verified their information. They bite instantly. Just behaviour of a country thats scared. The only problem is that this powerfull dog can bite very nasty. Brainless nevertheless. And they get away with it. Shame!
Noutismewat 3 years ago
'saddam's Iraq' is a brainless dog. Barks and bites everything that comes along. No matter if its the best option or they used to be friends with (I remember Rumsfeld shaking Saddams hand), if they are wrong or verified their information. They bite instantly. Just behaviour of a country thats scared. The only problem is that this powerfull dog can bite very nasty. Brainless nevertheless. And they get away with it. Shame!
This essay works with 2 words changed. And makes more sense.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Ur absolutely right till the last sentence 'and they get away with it'. Saddam is a bastard and got punished for it. Powell and especially Rumsfeld are still shaking hands. Bush cant be blaimed cause he doesnt have a clou what he s saying the poor bastard.
Noutismewat 3 years ago
True, the world caught up with saddam. But Powell, Rumsfield and Bush are the ones enforcing Resolution 1441. They can't be prosecuted for carrying out the UN's punishment on saddam.
Bush says what he is going to do and then does it. That's what pisses you off more than anything, right, noutis?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Hitler, Stalin, IdiAmin, PolPot - you forgot to add 'saddam' to this list of scumbags. But I forgive you for your obvious mistake.
And we still have a 'Constitution', thank you very little.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
It is the same shit like under Hitler, Stalin, IdiAmin, PolPot an it will have the same end.
wolbei 3 years ago
Hitler would have loved the muslems, since they hate the jews and demand their destruction.
9/11 was an act of war and we responded. Get over it.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Rather than interpreting this as America bashing rather you should see it as defending America from debasement and violation of its own constitution by a self-interested, currupt and duplicitous cabale. And logically, if the 'inviolate' principles of the American constitiion are not worth defending.. then there is no America to defend.
cornishiron 3 years ago
If by 'evil people' the video refers to the terrorists then I agree. Logically, if America is attacked and we fight back anywhere in the world we are defending America.
We didn't start it but we sure as f#ck are going to end it.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Yemen: 8-year-old Nojud Mohammed Ali has been granted a divorce. The girl initially signed a marriage contract with the understanding that she would remain with her parents until she was 18 but she was sent to live with her husband a week later. Her ex, Faez Ali Thameur, 28 told Judge Mohammed al-Qadhi that the marriage had been consented to by both the girl and her parents. He said that the marriage had been consummated but denied beating her.
Normal for Arabs. Resume America bashing.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Afghans aren't Arabs dumbass.
kabeerajameela 3 years ago
"Afghans aren't Arabs dumbass."
So what are they, jews? hahahhahahah
You forgot to bash America, dumbass.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
By golly, you are right. They're afgan, not arab. Look and smell the same to me. Couldn't tell the difference under a microscope.
Resume America bashing now. We all know that freedom is a curse that can only be destroyed by jihad.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
The surge is working!!!!!! We can leave soon.
End of message.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I thought these terrorists wanted to die for allah. We are just doing them a favor.
Why is no one pointing out that the arab terrorists are killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis?????
mahammadabba 3 years ago
proud infidel...
frumpyd519 3 years ago
Infidel and proud of it. :)
Guess AIDS killed the fidels.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
What happened to all the pro-saddam terrorist backers? This group got quiet all of a sudden.
I guess that no impeachment proceedings has put a wet blanket on the Bush bashers.
Or maybe you all died of AIDS.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
'one hundred thousand terrorists and one taxi driver killed in Iraq'
??? Let's do an expose movie on the taxi driver ???
'I told you that no one would care about the 100,000 terrorists'
"rimshot"
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I love this video. Especially the terrorists that got the crap beat out of them. Please show some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I challange everyone to search 'person of the week' on youtube and watch the "Bert Brady" segment. These are the unsung heros of Afganistan and Iraq.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Today President Bush and PM Rudd had a press conference highlighting success's in Iraq and the ongoing withdrawl.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Oh, I feel so sorry for the terrorists. Maybe the 72 virgins will be ample compesentation for killing infidels in this world.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
YOU ARE ONE RETARDED BRAINWASHED FUCK-ASS ANTI-AMERICAN,PRO-FASCIAST,ANTI-CONSTITUTION,WORTHLESS,GODLESS,HEARTLESS PAWN.Please commit suicide NOW!!!!
3035514833 3 years ago
"YOU ARE ONE RETARDED BRAINWASHED FUCK-ASS ANTI-AMERICAN,PRO-FASCIAST,ANTI-CONSTITUTION,WORTHLESS,GODLE SS,HEARTLESS PAWN.Please commit suicide NOW!!!!"
You first. :)
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Fireman's quote:
"He said "The way I see it, it had to be the rivets" but the conspiracy sites remove this important insight. They skipped over the sentence. There is only one reason to do something like that. To mislead the reader by removing all other possibilities for the sounds."
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Also, Isaac directly addressed the gag order placed on firemen and police officers in Szymanski's article: "It's amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs," said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Oh, yea, a gag order works in perpetuity.
The truth has been written and conspiracy cases have taken quips and misquotes to serve their self-appointed cause of misinformation.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
EnasniVampire 3 years ago
Yes, thanks for printing the terrorist's view of life after being caught.
The offending parties were arrested and prosecuted. But by watching this it seems like it just goes on and on and on....
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
What about the hundreds of people who have been released from Guantanamo because there was no evidence to convict them of terrorism?
Do you think it was good that all the innocents are tortured?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Hundreds? They were held until they were not a threat to society. Obviously they had a trial to be released.
If you are speaking of the innocents kidnapped and tortured by extremist arabs? Those that were beheaded and murdered? Those that fill the mass graves? I feel sorry for those poor souls and THEIR MURDERERS SHOULD BE EQUALLY OR MORE TORTURED AND KILLED!!!!!
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I sometimes think its sad how a large proportion of the American public still believes their country's propaganda. Many in the rest of the world sneer at their blind faith in their government. I wonder what American "patriots" would think if they knew George W. Bush recently bought a 98,840 acre ranch in Paraguay near the borders with Bolivia and Brazil, for a quick get-a-way in case GWB or his cronies are indicted for their crimes.
DaveGIS123 3 years ago
I feel sorrier for someone that falls for the rumor that GWB bought land for a qick getaway.
Of course you have some sort of proof of this allegation, right?
Quick, your gullible is running away. Better catch it.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Hi, mahammadabba, the story broke in October 2006 and it's all over the internet. Google: Bush Paraguay for yourself and count the hits. While you're at it, Google: Businessman's Coup, Smedley Butler, Prescott Bush and Trading With The Enemy to find out about the origins of the Bush family fortune. As for my level of gullibility, well, all I can say is we only know what we're told, and some of us aren't told very much. Cheers.
DaveGIS123 3 years ago
"The news (rumor) circulating the continent about plans to buy 98,840 acres"
I did google it and every nutcase Bush-hating internet publisher was parroting the same rumor. Do you actually believe everything you read on the internet?
Just more conspiracy imagination running wild and free. Keep up the laughs, though.
By the way, Bush hasn't been impeached. Just wanted to make that clear.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Do you know what 9 out of 10 psych majors say?
"Would you like fries with that?"
mahammadabba 3 years ago
what does the 1 out of 10 psych majors say?
"logically, you would like to have fries with that."
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Who is a psych major?
I said philosophy. Wow! you are one stupid little man. You don't even know that philosophers study logic and that psychologists study science.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
"I said philosophy. Wow! you are one stupid little man. You don't even know that philosophers study logic and that psychologists study science."
Wow, you clean up after those that serve fries. The world does need people to clean toilets while philosophising.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
melting iron part 5
ignoramus because he ignores the scientifically provable (or disprovable) fact that Iron metal itself burns, and that when amassed in large piles can ignite fires (and can even melt itself). The article discusses child-safe experiments observing a very slow oxidation of iron (rusting at room temperature), but also mentions:"Sometimes a big load of iron in a ship can get hot. The heat can even set other materials on fire. That's because the iron is rusting, which means ~
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
If you can believe that iron as a fuel source is MORE PLAUSIBLE than thermite, then go ahead.
I am finished with you. Let me tell you what the future holds. There will be a One World Government that is going to force everyone to take a micro chip. We will not be able to buy or sell without this chip.
It will be the seal of antichrist.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
The end of the world as we know it?
I must have made my point regarding your 'melting metal' question for you to give up.
My future is bright and shiny. America is in a down economic cycle right now and will be up soon.
How logical is the 'one world government'? The world is a big place and there are billions of people that have to be converted to the new government - and that is next to impossible.
Microchip? Isn't that what credit cards are? Why do we even need cash anymore?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
America is in an economic crisis which will have people rioting in the streets. The stock market is going to crash. The dollar is going to be destroyed. We will have to switch to a "Euro-style" common currency between Canada and Mexico.
There will be one world government. Clinton, Bush, and Obama are all for it.
No, the microchip is a small device, the size of a grain of rice, which is injected into the arm. It has GPS tracking capability. Credit cards were an important predecessor.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
1. Could you tell me what rioting in the streets will accomplish?
2. The dollar is backed by America's economy, just like the peso is backed by Mexico's economy (+ USA's foreign aid) and every other welfare country in the world.
3. Why would we want to support 6 billion more welfare cases (1 world gov)?
4. Could you explain to me the importance of a common currency? Since I can exchange dollars, loonies and peso's without prejudice why is it necessary for a single currency?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
1. Rioting will accomplish nothing.
2. The dollar is a fiat currency. It is not backed by anything. It is a category error to say an economy backs a currency. Whether or not you have a good economy does not have any bearing on whether or not you have a fiat or gold standard currency. You can only back a currency with assets.
3. This comment shows you really don't understand what I am saying.
4. To break down national sovereignty the New World Order will eliminate national currencies.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
1. Agreed
2. Could you name me one currency that is backed by gold? Or anything of value? What's that sound? The vacuum of reality?
3. Tell me how the hell we are going to have one world government? It's impossible to do.
4. There is a common currency now. It's called 'trade'.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
2. The American dollar was backed by Gold until Nixon took us off the gold standard in the early 70's. Also, Hugo Chavez has currency based upone the oil in Venezuela.
3. They will combine Canada, Mexico, and US into the SPP North American Union (see Lou Dobbs). South American will be brought into this eventually. The European nations have been combined under the EU. There will also be an Asian Union. I don't think Africa will fair to well.
4. Trade is not a currency, you genius.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
2. I didn't ask when America got off the gold standard. I asked which countries backed their currency by anything. 'oil' is not like gold held in Fort Knox, it is pumped and sold daily and not 'held as collateral for currency'. Does it say 'this note can be traded for oil'?????
3. 'They' will combine Northern America? Who is 'they'? Mexico wants our money and then left alone to produce pot. Canada hates our 'peace through strength' military.
One world government is starting in the EU.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
4. currency is relative to the price of gold no matter what. The dollar might not be backed by gold but it can be used to buy gold. Last I checked gold can't be eaten so it's worth whatever someone will pay you for it.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
The point of the gold standard is that they can not print more money unless there is gold added to the treasury.
With our present fiat currency, the Fed can keep authorizing more money to be put into circulation. This causes inflation. The dollar has lost a lot of its power against other currencies. This means that all your money that you have saved is devalued. Your pay check is worth less. It destroys an economy.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Again, what country in the world backs their currency with gold?
NONE!!!!!!!!
So why are you demeaning America for going off the gold standard, something that no other country has ever been on???????
And every other country does the same thing with their currency and mimicing America.
So what would a brainic do with their money? Beside sit around and whine?
My paycheck has kept above inflation, so it's not worth less as you state.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I guess if you believe that there is a microchip that keeps someone from buying or selling something that you could believe that Building 7 was imploded.
Did you do a lot of acid in the 70's?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
The way the microchip system will be set up is that each store will have these sensors which will pick up on what you leave the store with. It will automatically deduct what you take out of your checking account. You will not need receipts or even a clerk to scan products.
This chip will be the only accepted medium of exchange when conducting business.
No chip, no products. Just check out all the youtube videos that show this chip already in use.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Sure, this chip will be worldwide. 3rd world countries will embrace this technology. Just think, Africa will be prosperous as America. Right after they quit killing each other and starving to death. Everything on the internet is real, right???? Just like the Building 7 conspiracy.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
What do you know about the Georgia Guide Stones?
The New World Order will cull the population by 93%. I doubt they leave much in Africa, except wildlife.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Wow, some nutcase printed psychobabble on limestone and it means something? Keep mankind's population around 500 million to 'promote nature'?????
bwahahahahahaaaaaaa
I thought California was the land of fruit and nuts. Georgia has sprouted one big nut.
If it bothers you so much, why not just go and destroy the monument? It's just rock covered with BS.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Someone had 100 tons of granite carved into a monument. The guy was part of the Rosicrucianist. This is what the global elite are calling for. Prince Phillip said he wanted the population culled by over 80%
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Did you bother reading the message they left? And that was for a future generation after a 'holocaust'? They said that in that event the earth's population should not exceed 500 million (for whatever reason is beyond me).
What problem do you have with someone exercising their free speech? If you want to shut someone up why not go after algore? He's the nuttiest psyco-ecoterrorist there is.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Looked deeper into the stones. Nice that someone made a stonehedge here. Funny how these 10 'suggestions' don't even relate to the 10 commandments. In fact, if the world lived by the 10 real commandments of the bible there would be no problems in this world.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
1. thermite is made from aluminum powder and rust. Take a science course.
2. was it good for you?
3. A prodigy. Maybe your prognosticating skills are better than your conspiracy theories... Can't be any worse.
4. the microchip you speak of started as checks and turned into plastic. Cash is on the way out.
5. you believe in the antichrist??? That expains it all.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
1. thermite is made from aluminum powder and rust. Take a science course.
2. was it good for you?
3. A prodigy. Maybe your prognosticating skills are better than your conspiracy theories... Can't be any worse.
4. the microchip you speak of started as checks and turned into plastic. Cash is on the way out.
5. you believe in the antichrist??? That expains it all.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Yes, I do believe there will be an antichrist.
You will see a man come as a peacemaker who will create a treaty with warring factions. This leader will eventually cause everyone to receive a microchip, without which you can not buy or sell.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
So how will this magical 'microchip' be assigned to the 6 billion residence of the earth?
I want mine now!!!!!!!
mahammadabba 3 years ago
many people will want their microchips. That is the nature of a cow. They are perfectly happy with living a life which has no greater purpose than to feed those over them.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Now it's the microchip conspiracy. What will it be tomorrow?
When yours is forcably implanted can I cut it out for you with a rusty knife?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I won't take one. The Bible says that everyone who takes one is part of the beast's world system. It is allying yourself with the devil.
I will just starve.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago 2
Then commit suicide. The devil loves suicidial individuals because it fills hell that much faster.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Hi, AreYouKiddinMelol, I don't know about microchips or ID cards, but, for the record:
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." (Revelation 13: 16-18 NIV)
DaveGIS123 3 years ago
First marked, then what happens? I need to know because I have to plan my retirement. If we are going to become antichristed to death I might as well max out my credit cards, right?
Dave, do you go to bible study every sunday or do you just have all the good parts marked?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
DaveGIS,
Yes, I know about it. That is the mark of the beast. Check out the youtube videos on the VERICHIP.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago 2
melting iron part 4
MELTS, FORMING POOLS OF MOLTEN IRON.
Professor Jones' comments and conjectures about the origin of the alleged molten iron found within the three huge piles of combustible matter burning after the collapse of the WTC towers, distinctly prove that Professor Jones is oblivious of the fact that Iron Burns in air.
For perspective, I found this children's educational webpage that further illustrates that "Professor Jones" (among the "9-11 Scholars") is an incompetent ~"
mahammadabba 3 years ago
molten iron part 2
But Professor Jones obviously does not comprehend that the hot, red-hot and molten IRON IS COMBUSTIBLE matter. Here, Jones clearly missed it, when he wrote:
"At these temperatures, steel will melt, and aluminum materials from the buildings should continue to undergo exothermic oxidation reactions with materials also entrained in the molten metal pools including metal oxides which will then keep the pools molten and even growing for weeks despite radiative and ~"
mahammadabba 3 years ago
molten iron part 1.
The only likely source of the heat great enough to actually "melt" significant quantities of iron in the piles (or even just raise so much of it to red-hot or to 2000F) would be chemical energy. Professor Jones assumes that all the carbonaceous "combustible" matter in the "piles" would have burned away long before the time that the red-hot and molten iron was discovered (weeks after the collapse of the WTC towers). Perhaps it did, by weeks after the collapse.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
molten iron part 1.
The only likely source of the heat great enough to actually "melt" significant quantities of iron in the piles (or even just raise so much of it to red-hot or to 2000F) would be chemical energy. Professor Jones assumes that all the carbonaceous "combustible" matter in the "piles" would have burned away long before the time that the red-hot and molten iron was discovered (weeks after the collapse of the WTC towers). Perhaps it did, by weeks after the collapse.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Did they find thermite used on the crane that collapsed in NY? Is it all part of the conspiracy theory?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Here is another fallacy of relevance. This issue has no bearing on what we were discussing. You attempt to shift the argument to another topic and accuse your opponent of asserting some absurd premise.
Good job at making an ass of yourself again.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
So you don't think that President Bush and the conspiracy gang dropped the crane to focus attention off your building 7 theory?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Let me upgrade the age old question to be politically correct:
So now that I have answered your question let me ask you, have you stopped beating your wife (or boyfriend) yet? Yes or no
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I can tell you still don't get it. I was showing you what an example of a complex question was. It is a logical fallacy. You seem to think it is a valid argument form.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
"I can tell you still don't get it. I was showing you what an example of a complex question was. It is a logical fallacy. You seem to think it is a valid argument form."
I outsmarted your fool question and you won't admit it.
I looked up logical fallacy and saw your picture in the description. It also referenced 'conspiracy theory fool' and that also had your picture in the description.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Can you logic your way out of this:
Using the simple formula F=Ma it can be shown that an aircraft plunging into a building can produce extreme forces. Now using pv=mrt the force of that collision can produce temperatures in excess of 2750 degrees F.
Logic through simple mathmatics.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Let's assume that an airplane flying into a building does produce heat exceeding 2750.
Aluminum melts at a much lower temperature than steel. Why did we not find molten aluminum at the towers?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
hahahhahahahaa
Are you saying that airplanes aren't made of aluminum?
Now you are so foolish it just isn't worth debating.
Tell me why the building collapsed from the top down?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I am saying airplanes ARE made of aluminum, but no molten aluminum was found. They found molten iron with sulfur traces.
The buildings collapsed from the top down because they ran explosive charges in a series which made the top layers explode first. The plan was to claim it was a pancake collapse, but unfortunately many firefighters heard the explosions and testified that someone put bombs in the buildings and that it was a controlled demolition.
Watch the youtube video.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
The beams breaking and concrete fracturing might have sounded like bombs going off. The firefighters were running around confused with helmets on and listening to walkie-talkies and they were a quarter mile or more away from the top of the building.
As the building collapsed it would push down the conduit, beams, glass into the basement and was confused as explosions?
So you claim it was all 'planned' by someone who set charges without anyone knowing or seeing? Your ignorance knows no bounds.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Perhaps the concrete breaking did sound like bombs going off. This is worth a serious consideration. However, there were explosions in the basement that knocked people off their feet and sent them flying. Witnesses three floors down testified to this. Others testified to ground level explosions which blasted out windows.
The testimonies by many people show that bombs are the only plausible explanation.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
And the beams extended to the basement (even though this references physics and not logic) and the beams had to hold up the whole building - air pressure of the collapsing building would be forced toward the basement through the elevator shafts.
'Explosion sounds' were mistaken. Sounds were there but they can be explained by building design (and logic, if you insist).
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Where did your false logic come from:
1. The 'exploding sounds' from the basement had to be bombs so you concluded that the building was imploded?
2. Your premise that the building was imploded so the sounds that came from the basement 'had to be bombs'?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
So you belive that logic overshadows laws of physics.
That is deep, you should teach that.
If you don't understand basic physics then I'M 'intentionally missing the point and retarded'?
No, I feel sorry for you.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
You are one stupid man. I don't even know what in the F that means for logic to overshadow physics.
You got me. I don't understand your monkey talk. I am a real scholar.
I do understand physics because not only have I had classes in physics, I studied under the chair of the philosophy department who had advanced degrees in physics and philosophy. I did philosophy of science.
You are making logical fallacies in your argument. That was my point. It has nothing to do with physics.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
I believe you don't know F about anything.
I will talk slowly and clearly and small words if you were in philosophy.
Logic works with people.
Physics works with materials.
Logic does not change what physics does to materials.
You try to talk as if you give enough logical truths that some how it will alter the universe to fit your ideas of what should work and not work.
Is that understandable?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I am merely critiquing the structure of your arguments. You keep making really poor arguments. It isn't even to the level of deductive validity. You are making tons of inductive fallacies, fallacies of relevance.
This is a wholly separate issue from the discussion of the physical evidence. Why do you still not get it?
When you miss the point of my arguments and accuse me of saying something I did not say, or change my argument, then I am going to point it out.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Because your logic has holes in it. It might make sense to you but not in the real world.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Logic has to do with what is universal. There is no such thing as logic-to-someone.
What do you mean by logic having holes in it?
I am pointing out that many of your arguments are totally invalid. You need to fix that before we can even have a rational conversation.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
LOL mah,
look at how you write:
"I will talk slowly and clearly and small words if you were in philosophy."
You do this while insulting me! loooooooool
What the heck do you mean "logic works with people". Are you a monkey? Did someone sit a chimp on the other side of this internet connection?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
"What the heck do you mean "logic works with people". Are you a monkey? Did someone sit a chimp on the other side of this internet connection?"
You are definatly a chump, I didn't know you were a chimp. You must have a good trainer.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
Ok, now please explain what you mean by "logic works with people".
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
I thought you took a psychology course. You try to be a profound thinker but you don't know logic.
Maybe you should go back to school.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Well, since I took more logic than the average philosophy professor, and I studied independently under the main logic professor at my university and received A's in every class, I think I will disregard your ignorant comment.
Especially coming from someone who commits a fallacy of relevance nearly every post and says insanely dumb crap like "logic works with people".
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds to an expert in logic?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Do you know how stupid logic sounds as an arguement when logic's conclusions defy physics?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I don't badmouth the military one bit.
Number one way to support the troops.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I hear none of the Germans during World War II bad mouthed the Nazis. Oh wait, I forgot about all the heroes like Corry ten Boom. They locked her up in a concentration camp because she was a Christian missionary saving Jews.
I guess we both have something in common with the people of that era.
Ok, so besides not criticizing what our troops do, what do you actually DO POSITIVELY to support the troops.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Oh, yes, compare me to a Nazi when you run out of things to say.
Nazi's were evil, just like the terrorists you are defending. Should we have given the Nazi's trials during the war or just shot back?
You may have something in common with the Nazi's but I sure don't.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
So how do you support the troops?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Why is it that genocide on the Kuwaiti people by saddam was not protested in the streets in America and Europe but the liberation of Iraq was?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I know there was an invasion of Kuwait. I was not aware that there was a genocide.
What are the details of this genocide? How many died? What date did this take place? Can you suggest any articles for me to read?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
You got to be kidding me.
You are so questionable on building 7 but know nothing about the Gulf War?
Please, research it yourself (if you spend 1% of the time you wasted on building 7 you will be an expert on the Gulf War).
Have a nice day.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Persons can not be "questionable". Propositions are the kinds of things which we question, thus being appropriate for having the property of being questionable.
I know a lot about the Gulf war. I have had two history classes on the Middle East at the university I graduated from.
Why would you assume I do not know anything about it? If you hadn't noticed I am extremely intelligent and you are not so much.
Noticed?
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Intelligence can be quantified but your stupidity knows no bounds.
I bet you repeated everything your professor said and he gave you an A.
If you are so intelligent, why don't you know simple physics?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Good job, there are two logical fallacies. First is ad hominem, and the second would fit under several fallacies of relevance.
How is it possible that you do not understand basic logic? You have no clue how to reason properly.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Duh? So now logic bypasses the laws of thermodynamics?
You can logic your way out of chemical processes?
Duh.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
In order to have good arguments, they need to be free of logical fallacies. For example, when I say your argument has a logical fallacy. You should take from that the very important principle that your argument needs to address the actual point instead of intentionally missing the point.
I don't even know what the hell it would mean for logic to bypass laws of thermodynamics. That is freaking retarded man. You are one dumb man.
What does it mean to "logic one's way out of..."???
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
How can one talk physics to you when you claim that the laws of physics weren't in effect on 9/11 and logic can explain why the laws of thermodynamics were stopped for a day.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Here is another logical fallacy. I never made any such statements. You misrepresent my claims by making a caricature out of them, then you argue against the ridiculous statement YOU MADE!
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
mah,
Here is another logical fallacy. I never made any such statements. You misrepresent my claims by making a caricature out of them, then you argue against the ridiculous statement YOU MADE!
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Can you give me one example of when saddam charged any of his minions with torture? No, because he approved of torture and ordered it.
Where's your outrage for saddam?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
I don't know why I am being accused of supporting Saddam. I disapprove of Saddam because I disapprove of rape, murder, torture.
You approve of rape, murder, and torture when we do it to brown people with towels on their heads, so it is you that has to explain to me why don't you like Saddam when he did exactly what Americans do now in the "War on Terror".
You have the inconsistent position. I am against anyone who does those things.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
I never approved of the few American individuals that acted on their own and were imprisoned. Why do you say I approve of it?
Our legal interrogation is what you consider 'torture'.
So were you against saddam enough to remove him from power, or could you live with his rape, murder and torture because it was done against brown turbin heads?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Just as a side note- my friend and I do not celebrate any holidays, except one which we decided to found. It is Saddam Hussein's death day. So, keep in mind I do not like Saddam. So you can stop telling me that I do. You just sound like a completely unreasonable person when you do that crap.
Rape, murder, and torture are totally commonplace among these detainee camps. The reason is that there is ZERO accountability because they have had their rights taken away.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
"Rape, murder, and torture are totally commonplace among these detainee camps. The reason is that there is ZERO accountability because they have had their rights taken away."
And you know this firsthand because you have been there?
Again, you have described saddam's prisons. Feel pretty good now?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
There are former guards who talk about it. You have a computer. Do the research.
I also know the father of an interrogator. He told me a lot of stories.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
You know interrogators of saddam's prison? Why don't you write down some quotes from them - I'd love to hear some first hand comments.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I know the father of an American interrogator, not Saddam's interrogators, lol.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Good for you. Was the American interrogator a murderous rapist, like you have stated they all are? How many terrorists did he personally strip, attack with dogs and waterboard?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
Here is another logical fallacy. It is the fallacy of complex question.
Example of this fallacy:
Mah, have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or no? Answer the question.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
I beat her out of bed every morning.
So, yes.
Have you stopped beating your head against the wall yet?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I would be happy to keep teaching you about your fallacies of relevance until you come to be a full human being.
Dealing with you gives me the same feeling I got when I watched that one movie with Howie Mandel where he thawed out of the ice. Something like "Bobo".
LOL
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
You make me laugh at your ignorance.
Pure logic does not work. Words have more than one definition.
Dealing with you is like trying to teach a dog to talk. It theoritically can be done but it's physically impossible.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
You pinheaded un-intellectual types crack me up. So now that I have answered your question let me ask you, have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or no?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
If you strip people of their Constitutional rights, put guards in power who are told to treat the people harshly because they are "terrorists", then you create an environment where rape, torture, and murder are INEVITABLE results. The top level leaders in America are just loving it. Torture is taught to Abu Gharib and Guantanamo guards by CIA torture experts.
This state of affairs IS the result of your ideals in practice.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
If you strip people of their Constitutional rights, put guards in power who are told to treat the people harshly because they are "terrorists", then you create an environment where rape, torture, and murder are INEVITABLE results. The top level leaders in America are just loving it. Torture is taught to Abu Gharib and Guantanamo guards by CIA torture experts.
This state of affairs IS the result of your ideals in practice."
You have just described saddam's Iraq to a 'T'. How does that feel?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
It is sad that it describes Saddam's Iraq, because it is in fact the correct description of the American detainee camps.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
Yes, and EVERY country has camps. Ever hear of China's 're-education camps'? Or Russia's camps?
Maybe it would be easier if you could name me just one country that doesn't have camps.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
The acts you describe was committed by a few American military individuals and they were charged and imprisoned and IT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE. That's what America does to it's rogue criminals. Can you say it's happened since? Why or why not? It's like blaming all Americans for 2 guys killing a college student.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
How is it that saddam was allowed to openly torture and kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's (beheadings, hangings, executions, families disappearing in the dead of the night, 8 year war with Iran to name a FEW)? NoT one person opposing the Iraq liberation spoke up about ONE of these.
America torture: Barking dogs (horrors) naked prisoners (whoa, nellie, cover that bump) Giving them korans and prayer rugs (infidel) isolation on Guantanamo (gaining 20 pounds)?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
There are rapes, murders, dog attacks, stabbings, drownings, electrical devices, stress positions, etc.
All used by American interrogators to torture their victims who have not had a fair trial. Many were found totally innocent.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
My heart bleeds for the terrorists. 'many were found totally innocent'? How can you say this when you clearly claim they were held without a trial?
Now you aren't being consistant.
What about the terrorists that kidnap and behead innocent people? Is it worth killing them to save someone?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I guess that would explain it. You actually care about terrorists just as you have now admitted. But why do you care about them so much?
I value the lives of people who are innocent. I guess that is where we differ.
As to people who were held in Guantanamo and held without trial, yet found innocent, I would say that if someone is held for 5 years while the government investigates and interrogates them then SAYS "WE FIND NO EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU", this means they were found innocent.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
How do you know they are innocent? Are you accusing soldiers are rounding up citizens and holding them on trumped up charges?
So what sort of trial do you propose we give them? Military? Civil? War crime? What rights do foreign fighters have outside of America?
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I know they are FOUND innocent by our government when OUR GOVERNMENT says "they were found to have no evidence against them." Also, we are supposed to consider people innocent UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.
There are 2 reasons why they are to be considered innocent. We should have evidence gathered and then presented in a court of law, which should be either public, or the transcripts should be released.
According to the Constitution ALL MEN have Constitutional rights given BY GOD!
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
You confuse American Constitutional rights with those that the imam's give muslims.
mahammadabba 3 years ago
mah,
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
You asked me what the rights of those detained are, and I said that since God made them, they have inalienable rights.
I do not give a crap about the Quran. The Quran is insanely dumb and full of evil garbage.
You asked me what rights they had. I told you. They have the rights of the Constitution and these rights are grounded in man being made in the image of God, rational beings, as the founding fathers also claimed.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
mah,
It is in your best interest and my best interest that we give these detainees just and speedy trials.
There is a logic game which is played with our present legislation. The Military Commission Act says that lawful enemy combatants who are not American citizens do not get Habeas Corpus. However, you can only determine if they are not American citizens if you actually give them FAIR TRIAL!
So they can grab anyone and just say they are not really citizens and torture them forever.
AreYouKiddinMelol 3 years ago
"According to the Constitution ALL MEN have Constitutional rights given BY GOD!"
You are stating the rights declared by Christian values.
Now let's look at the rights given by shia law. The right to beat your wife and kill her. The right to kill infidels. The right to lie to an infidel because he doesnt' believe in your religion. The right to fight a terrorist war without rules. The right to call 'shenanagins' when caught because of people like you who think they have a thought process.
mahammadabba 3 years ago