'The time has come for you to change your appearance and begin your exile.' It's not even implied, they say it outright. But that's not what happens, he's exiled, but doesn't regenerate.
The war games is the first time the doctor goes back to gallifrey since he stole the TARDIS. But in the five/two doctors, he is working for them. He also had full control of the TARDIS, but he never did before the exile. In the two doctors, he has grey hair and mentions the fact that he's been exiled.
He was sentenced by the Time Lords due to the fact that he had broken their law of time line interference . The tardis originally landed in a zone occupied by a bunch of warlords that had brainwashed humans. as a result he sought out the Time Lords to return all of the humans back to their appropriate time lines.
actually the BBC had not yet hired the actor to replace Troughton, so all you see is him spinning around. Pertwee was hired shortly after this, thus the 3rd Doctor stumbles out of the Tardis instead of Troughton changing into Pertwee
@j0sheed00d exile meens that he is traped on earth and the time lord have take his knowlage of the tardis away so he cant use that to escape its like bing sent to a low security prison
The whole "change of appearance" thing feels so forced. With the concept of regeneration, it could be taken as an execution; they force him to end one of his lives and to experience the pain of death. But if it's a mere change of appearance, it's just so...underwhelming...like it couldn't be more obvious that real-life demands were writing the script.
I always wondered if that one really counted as a regeneration since it didn't really seem like one to me. I know he counts it as one and the show has never taken the position that it wasn't but still.... :)
@VashWolfwood1 okay, The time war was fought during the shows 16 year hiatus from television. So essentially from the show with the 1st doctor to the movie with the 8th the time lords are alive. then the time war witht he daleks happened and the series with the 9th doctor began where he's the last time lord.
Does this really count as a regeneration, only the Time Lords never expressly state that this is part of his punishment: only to change form, mainly for disguise. Seems a bit close to the idea of a death sentence otherwise.
@DrunkRussian2 At the time this was filmed the concept of regeneration had not been clearly defined. Originally the First Doctor was thought to have "de-aged". With the Second Doctor the process was called a "change of appearance". It was later termed regeneration when the Third Doctor changed. In the current series it's been explicitly stated that there have been eleven incarnation of the Doctor, with each change considered a regeneration, including this one
@dallan007 Yes, he says that in the Lodger doesn't he, after he nuts James Corden? I wonder how else the idea might have been shown. I know that Pertwee hadn't been cast yet.
Ah, the good old days when the Time Lords were cool, before Robert bloody Holmes got his hands on them. He berated them as "cosmic eunuchs," so what did he do? He emasculated them! o.O
Incidentally, the Time Lord on the left (short with dark hair) was Trevor Martin, who went on to play the Doctor himself in the stage show "Doctor Who and the Daleks in the Seven Keys to Doomsday," in the 70's and just a couple years ago reprised the role for the Big Finish audio version.
@MaskedMan66 How dare you insult Robert Holmes the Greatest Dr who writter ever >:( nah just kidding we all have our own opinion ;) but still Robert Holmes is the best Dr who writter ever IMO and The Deadly Assassin if you ask me was one of the better Gallifrey storys along with The War Games and the 4 Trial of a Time Lord storys.
@JackWProductions He wrote a lot of good stories; I just don't like what he did to the Time Lords; not nearly as bad as what Russell "I-have-a-rabid-hatred-of-any-form-of-authority" Davies did to them (or to U.N.I.T., for that matter), but anyone who thinks a mega-powerful and mega-wise race is "boring" must have a few screws loose.
@MBGamingLegends Just as Tennant's favorite Doctor is Peter Davison, Smith's is Troughton, so no wonder. Major difference is that Troughton didn't let his companions intimidate him.
Be that as it may, IMHO this is the greatest Doctor of all time. I like Matt Smith and John Pertwee. I love the inestimable Tom Baker. But Pat Troughton MADE Doctor Who. Jelly Babies, the weird sense of humour, sonic screwdriver, the wolf in sheep's clothing bit...he did it first. The most clownish and oafish of the doctors, he was also the most dangerous. You don't know how many bad guys laughed at him, right up until he ROFLPWND them Timelord style. 50% teddybear, 50% wolf.
@aquagrl63 Well, if you want to think of it this way, the Doctor got the last laugh when he ended the Time War. Except I don't think he'd believe it was anything to laugh about.
@heavyarms01h Well he wouldn't have had to kill them all if they weren't such complete dicks. Hey why didn't the Doctor turn into a mega-asshole? Yeah he was kind of a douche at first, but he was never like this.
@aquagrl63 I think the reason the Doctor didn't become a total douche is the same thing that sets him apart from all the other Time Lords and what caused them to label him a renegade. He loves other people, other races, and believes wholeheartedly that they need to be defended. He can act stuck-up and cranky and proud of his race, but he's truly selfless at heart. The other Time Lords tended to act pompous and withdrawn into their own society, I think, and the Doctor couldn't stand that.
@aquagrl63 On the other hand... what I said may very well be an over-romanticization of the Doctor's point of view. There's a good comment below by MaskedMan66, I think, about the Time Lords' reasoning behind their super strict rules against "interfering" with other planets and events. It really can make them seem like jerks, especially since they are often so heavy-handed when punishing the Doctor even though he just saved the universe. Of course, they REALLY went nuts during the Time War.
Another glitch in the story really, what are timelords doing forcing the doc to regenerate for? What's the reason he needs to change and since when did he get to pick his appearance? That implies he can know what he'll look like before it happens and I don't recall that in the new Who plotlines. They haven't repeated that one again.
@bluejeckett could be punishmen coz in regenerating he loses one of his lives mind you its never actually said whether this was a regeneration or just a change of apperance or even a regeneration that they gave him and not one of this lives
@bluejeckett Actually, the idea crops up again when the First Romana changes to the 2nd, she was able to choose several times, and even went back again to the "Princess Astra" model.
@bluejeckett Not a glitch at all. The Doctor was put on trial for interfering in the affairs of other worlds and peoples, which is strictly forbidden by the Time Lords' charter. They protect the balance of time and space and thus are defenders of the universe, but they stay out of other beings' business unless reality is threatened.
And of course the Doctor knows what he's going to look like; he's met his other selves several times.
@MaskedMan66 Hmm that last point u make is apt, not heard someone pick that up before and not thought of myself. It could explain away knowing how hell look but in which case one could argue the second doc would already know he doesnt end up with nay of those faces but the third, which he clearly doest so then he cANT HAVE met his third incarnation, which ofcourse we know he has in the five docs so that falls down and implodes on itself Im afriad.
@bluejeckett The Second Doctor met the Third twice, in "The Three Doctors" as well as "The Five Doctors." I think it was just a vain effort on his part not to become the Third. In retrospect, it's interesting watching "Spearhead from Space" and seeing the Doctor (still with his second identity swirling around in his head) looking at his new face and saying, "Oh, no!" as he realizes he's become "Fancy Pants." Soon enough, the new personality takes over.
@blackphoenix From their point of view, they probably thought exiling him to Earth would cure him of his 'unhealthy' fixation with Earth. The Time Lords, for whatever reason, seem to have shut themselves off from the rest of the universe and have become very insular and repressed. Ah, one of the series's many great mysteries... You can see how The Doctor could have become frustated with that society and want to leave, and why he took Susan with him.
From their point of view, they probably thought exiling him to Earth would cure him of his 'unhealthy' fixation with Earth. The Time Lords, for whatever reason, seem to have shut themselves off from the rest of the universe and have become very insular and repressed. Ah, one of the series's many great mysteries... You can see how The Doctor could have become frustated with that society and want to leave, and why he took Susan with him. (Maybe that's why The Doctor never went back home, he'd
I saw this on DVD about a year ago and despite reading the novelisation when I was a kid and knowing what was coming, I was shocked at just how dark this scene actually is. Time Lords, not half creepy, eh?
I cried when I first saw this regeneration on dvd--it was so unfair!! the Time Lords were total pricks! Why the Doctor always gets all misty about them is beyond me. I have this on dvd...the one the Doctor says is too thin looks a bit like Peter Davison!
@TheWhuever Yeah. Poor little two, you can really see he's panicking, but desperately trying to keep himself together in the face of death, because that's how awesome he is.
That Time Lord judge, however, is some real jerk. He must be thinking: "I hope we get to execute him 12 times more!"
@KendrixTermina The Time Lords were doing what they had to do, and the Doctor knew that; as the saying goes, "It's a fair cop." The Doctor just didn't want to turn into "Fancy Pants."
Whats the Problem? watch the old ones in order if you can find them at "crossingthewhoniverse (dot) com" and on the weekends, "Well here in Chicago Watch the Newer series..
The Return of the Doctor is a Bit odd, but 1-7 is the older ones 7 turning into 8 was a Movie, Which was not bad,
9-11 < bad numbers. Ian threw Matt smith is Not suppose to be a Continue of the old, But a RE-Start of the series with new ideas/stories/Budget. Enjoy both. it's all in the same Family,.
I would NEVER suggest torrenting them. I bet they are NOT all available as torrents. The ones that survived, that is. YOU CAN'T get the entire series of Hartnell, and a few of the Troughtons via torrent, as well as the Pertwees and Bakers. SO DON'T search for Doctor Who on isohunt.
@ObsessedProductions That depends, there's a popular theory that suggests that rather than regenerating immediately after this episode he was forced to work for the time lords before being exiled.
@ObsessedProductions - It did, the Time Lords executed him for his meddling in time and exiled his next incarnation to Earth (by sabotaging his Tardis). Just as Romana later (who regenrated after a dangerous radiation poisoning which wasn't immediately fatal) it seems you *can* have some control if you regenerate while your body still is somewhat intact, but the doctor has always clung to any life so never used that option.
@AngelGhostchild Troughton was really good. I suggest tracking down the episodes of his that still exist (many were wiped from the BBC archives, sadly).
OMG He is awesome. Most of the aspects of the 4th, 10th and 11th Doctors that people love, were developed by Pat Troughton. Grab his surviving eps, he is SO fun to watch. And his companions actually help him, as much as he helps them. Try "The Tomb of the Cybermen", "The Dominators", or "The Mid Robber".
Great Scene and thanks for the history lesson. I notice you didn't give the Original air date for this Episode in the description as you did with the first(?)
Of all the Doctor's regenerations I find this one the most disturbing because, basically, the Time Lords are executing the Doctor's 2nd incarnation. It's a horrible ending for the cosmic hobo.
It didn't end here - the multi-Doctor stories (Three Doctors, Five Doctors & Two Doctors) where the Second Doctor clearly has post-War Games memories indicate that this was a sham and that he actually went on working for them until eventually regenerating and being exiled to earth. In the Two Doctors he even had Jamie with him. But yes, this does look kinda harsh.
Oh, I know this wasn't the actual end for the 2nd Doctor because he was rescued by the Celestial Intervention Agency for "Season 6-B" adventures...but I do get the impression that once the CIA were finished with him they sent him right back to exactly the same point from which they rescued him.
There is no reason to believe those were "Post Wargames" memories. He had centuries of life as Troughton, and many years with Jamie. Not every second was documented on air. I have never bought that bit that they threw in with the comics about him suddenly getting a reprieve and NOT regenerating after they made his face into play-dough. It seems perfectly clear he was forced to regenerate on the spot and sent to Earth. The rest was ret-conned.
@brueckedude Then how, in the 5 Drs, does he know what happened to Jamie and Zoe? That's why he realised they weren't real - they shouldn't remember him. He spoke about it in the past tense, indicating that it had already happened in his personal timeline.
In the 2 Drs, he actually says he was sent by the Time Lords. Now why would pre-War Games 2nd Dr be working for the Time Lords? He's also visibly older - they don't try to make him look the same age, eg by dying his hair.
"You'll have a change to choose your appearance"
"Oh..... well, that's not so bad..... BUT I WARN YOU, I'M VERY PARTICULAR!" lol
musicpunklover1 1 week ago 4
This is the last time he's onscreen besides multi doctor stories, but he didn't regenerate here.
Starguy256 3 weeks ago
@Starguy256 well it's implied that he did. you don't see the actual regeneration take place.
Rmg12 6 days ago
'The time has come for you to change your appearance and begin your exile.' It's not even implied, they say it outright. But that's not what happens, he's exiled, but doesn't regenerate.
The war games is the first time the doctor goes back to gallifrey since he stole the TARDIS. But in the five/two doctors, he is working for them. He also had full control of the TARDIS, but he never did before the exile. In the two doctors, he has grey hair and mentions the fact that he's been exiled.
Starguy256 6 days ago
This episode is one of the saddest in the show's history, in a good, well done way. Much like The Destruction of Time.
Yetaxa 1 month ago
He was sentenced by the Time Lords due to the fact that he had broken their law of time line interference . The tardis originally landed in a zone occupied by a bunch of warlords that had brainwashed humans. as a result he sought out the Time Lords to return all of the humans back to their appropriate time lines.
zowee77 1 month ago
@j0sheed00d He broke the law of time and space (i think) and he had to regenerate and start a exile on earth.
rtuckerivey 1 month ago
NO No No No No NOO
santaclause2ful 1 month ago
I always found it rather dark that the Second Doctor is essentially being executed and it's being played for LAUGHS.
JamesOhGoodie 1 month ago 3
actually the BBC had not yet hired the actor to replace Troughton, so all you see is him spinning around. Pertwee was hired shortly after this, thus the 3rd Doctor stumbles out of the Tardis instead of Troughton changing into Pertwee
thomasloybumgarner1 1 month ago
i`d laugh my ass of if someone edited a version so when he looks at the screen he sees future doctors.
he`s to old! = jon pertwee
he`s to fat isn`t he! = colin baker.
noooo he`s to thin! = david tennant
he`s to young! = matt smith !!!
i`ve never see such a incredable bunch! all the other doctors go scrolling by.
thanqualthehighseer 2 months ago 6
@thanqualthehighseer
you should do it!!
Ireallywantacookie 2 months ago
@thanqualthehighseer SFDebris does pretty much EXACTLY that! Check out his video "Doctor Who 101".
JamesOhGoodie 1 month ago
YAH MAKING ME GIDDE!
unknownrostam 2 months ago
13 people are daleks and im not... hahaha lolz cool video
holly42920 3 months ago
Why did the doctor regenerate by force? And I hope somebody don't mind telling me what is a exile?
j0sheed00d 3 months ago
@j0sheed00d exile meens that he is traped on earth and the time lord have take his knowlage of the tardis away so he cant use that to escape its like bing sent to a low security prison
lowey53 2 months ago
@j0sheed00d the doctor was regenerated by force because the time lords sentenced to have a force regeneration (i don't know what the crime is though)
uhejnjd 2 months ago
Can somebody please tell me what happened after this part?
j0sheed00d 3 months ago
funny faces at2:08
ILVCHEESE980 3 months ago
The whole "change of appearance" thing feels so forced. With the concept of regeneration, it could be taken as an execution; they force him to end one of his lives and to experience the pain of death. But if it's a mere change of appearance, it's just so...underwhelming...like it couldn't be more obvious that real-life demands were writing the script.
AwesomeMcKillington 3 months ago
@AwesomeMcKillington He has been sentenced that is the time lord equivalent to an execution
0cool63 2 months ago
Romana dealt with her regeneration with so much less drama
TheAndyinSeattle 4 months ago
So...Dumbledore, Teddy Roosevelt, or Robert Frost?
HarvestmanMan 4 months ago
The thin guy looks a little like David Tennant.
AndyPantsMusic 4 months ago
at 2:05, did he say puzzles ?
AutomatedCritic 4 months ago 3
Is everyone here so obsessed with Tennant as The Doctor that they're now seeing him in the classic series? -_-
RandomShinigami7 5 months ago 2
1:33 DAVID TENNANT?!!
MrMichaelChua 5 months ago
2:43 hands up in the air and wave em round like yu jus dont cair
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
1:36 which wuns tu yung?
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
2:00 peepul on erth n tattera... ere! grivi lu. el possumph! Aaaaaaahhhhhhh! wats happenin?
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
2:02 peepul on erth n tattera... ere! grivi lu. el possumph! Aaaaaaahhhhhhh! wats happenin?
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
just imagine if the guy at 1:31 was the 3rd incarnation of the doctor
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
2:56 nonononononononononononono!
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 5 months ago
At 1:34 - I jumped. That looks remarkably similar to Tennant's Doctor.
Davemon115 5 months ago 2
I wouldn't be surprised if they put up hitler and he said " HE'S FRIGGING DEAD"
browndog388 6 months ago
The one that was "too skinny" reminded me of a slightly-too-long-faced version of Tennant.
nybbleme 6 months ago
I always wondered if that one really counted as a regeneration since it didn't really seem like one to me. I know he counts it as one and the show has never taken the position that it wasn't but still.... :)
LibraGamesUnlimited 6 months ago
funny, i started watching the more recent ones, I thought the time lords were extinct
VashWolfwood1 6 months ago
@VashWolfwood1 they are on the more recent ones. after the time war the doctor is the only time lord left.
ciankid290 6 months ago
@ciankid290 So, was the time war fought in the past, or the future? lol....... time paradoxes are fun!
VashWolfwood1 6 months ago
@VashWolfwood1 okay, The time war was fought during the shows 16 year hiatus from television. So essentially from the show with the 1st doctor to the movie with the 8th the time lords are alive. then the time war witht he daleks happened and the series with the 9th doctor began where he's the last time lord.
ciankid290 6 months ago
they cut out the part where the tardis lands on earth and pertwee falls out. come on!!
StaraziaSelin66 6 months ago
@StaraziaSelin66 That was in the next episode, a few minutes into it in fact.
eateroftheflame 6 months ago
The third one looks like David Tennant. :)
jfesmire 6 months ago
Great actor, doctor.
morgansilzara 7 months ago
I have always loved this scene as well as the entire "War Games" story.
geoffolehane 7 months ago
why is this doctor so old?
natalieiwontforgetu 7 months ago
@natalieiwontforgetu derp, i dunno, maybe he tried to be old and important...
StaraziaSelin66 6 months ago
@natalieiwontforgetu He explains that in the new series. "I was always trying to be old and grumpy, like you do when you're young!"
ZavCoyote 5 months ago
Stop! Your making me dizzy! XD
want8rulezcp 7 months ago
@want8rulezcp Giddy...
Mrdoctorwhomad 6 months ago
Too fat, too thin, too old..... Diversity and inclusion was up and running in 1969 then!!!!
WelshyM 7 months ago
stop your making me giddy
corrietunes 7 months ago
Bow Ties are cool even back in 60
MyTubeVersion3 7 months ago 46
the one with the big head is matt smith now
MrKite1996 7 months ago 2
Twelve Regenerations dislike this video.
dallan007 8 months ago 2
Bowties are cool :D
HPRulessomuch 8 months ago 27
Does this really count as a regeneration, only the Time Lords never expressly state that this is part of his punishment: only to change form, mainly for disguise. Seems a bit close to the idea of a death sentence otherwise.
DrunkRussian2 8 months ago
@DrunkRussian2 At the time this was filmed the concept of regeneration had not been clearly defined. Originally the First Doctor was thought to have "de-aged". With the Second Doctor the process was called a "change of appearance". It was later termed regeneration when the Third Doctor changed. In the current series it's been explicitly stated that there have been eleven incarnation of the Doctor, with each change considered a regeneration, including this one
dallan007 8 months ago
@dallan007 Yes, he says that in the Lodger doesn't he, after he nuts James Corden? I wonder how else the idea might have been shown. I know that Pertwee hadn't been cast yet.
DrunkRussian2 8 months ago
2:18 Doctor is regenerating into Moe Howard!
JamesOhGoodie 8 months ago
Ah, the good old days when the Time Lords were cool, before Robert bloody Holmes got his hands on them. He berated them as "cosmic eunuchs," so what did he do? He emasculated them! o.O
Incidentally, the Time Lord on the left (short with dark hair) was Trevor Martin, who went on to play the Doctor himself in the stage show "Doctor Who and the Daleks in the Seven Keys to Doomsday," in the 70's and just a couple years ago reprised the role for the Big Finish audio version.
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
@MaskedMan66 How dare you insult Robert Holmes the Greatest Dr who writter ever >:( nah just kidding we all have our own opinion ;) but still Robert Holmes is the best Dr who writter ever IMO and The Deadly Assassin if you ask me was one of the better Gallifrey storys along with The War Games and the 4 Trial of a Time Lord storys.
JackWProductions 5 months ago
@JackWProductions He wrote a lot of good stories; I just don't like what he did to the Time Lords; not nearly as bad as what Russell "I-have-a-rabid-hatred-of-any-form-of-authority" Davies did to them (or to U.N.I.T., for that matter), but anyone who thinks a mega-powerful and mega-wise race is "boring" must have a few screws loose.
MaskedMan66 5 months ago
Il ike the new ones because their bright and they blow shit up. Like when david left he took the tardis with him by blow it up
ralphy329 8 months ago
The picture of the man at 1:39 looks like the eighth doctor with shorter hair.
kujyou3t 8 months ago
That horrible. They made him GIDDY!
DrLeonardBonesMcCoy 8 months ago 4
1:33 looks kinda like David Tennant except for the hair
animationdude56 8 months ago
The third picture was david tennant and the 4th was either sylvester mccoy or Christopher eccleston.
1451tyler 8 months ago
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"well thats not so bad" hahahahahah
ProfM3 9 months ago
he should have picked the fat one
freddythecanine 9 months ago 2
Holy hell, how similar are Patrick Troughton and Matt Smith? The way they speak and act is almost identical.
MBGamingLegends 9 months ago
@MBGamingLegends yeah matt smith took most of the insperation from troughton's doctor even the costume
BigFanofBarnif85 9 months ago
@MBGamingLegends Just as Tennant's favorite Doctor is Peter Davison, Smith's is Troughton, so no wonder. Major difference is that Troughton didn't let his companions intimidate him.
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
That shouldn't count as a regeneration >:(
LvXGameMaster 9 months ago
@LvXGameMaster He changes face so he did regenerate
fechtechtube 9 months ago
@fechtechtube however it was a forced change, therefore it shouldn't count. I know people agree with me...or not.
LvXGameMaster 9 months ago
@LvXGameMaster It was a forced regeneration, so it was still a regeneration. The Doctor has almost never regenerated voluntarily.
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
2:48 - Best line ever.
BigRedUnderpants1 9 months ago
1:33 Hi, David Tennant!
kenshin891 9 months ago
@TheDoctor176
Be that as it may, IMHO this is the greatest Doctor of all time. I like Matt Smith and John Pertwee. I love the inestimable Tom Baker. But Pat Troughton MADE Doctor Who. Jelly Babies, the weird sense of humour, sonic screwdriver, the wolf in sheep's clothing bit...he did it first. The most clownish and oafish of the doctors, he was also the most dangerous. You don't know how many bad guys laughed at him, right up until he ROFLPWND them Timelord style. 50% teddybear, 50% wolf.
brueckedude 9 months ago
11 people are either too old, too fat, too thin, or too young.
oxfordeugenicsprof 10 months ago
Jon Pertwee hadn't been cast yet. That's why his face didn't change.
zazozung 10 months ago
The one he rejects for being too thin looks a bit like Tennant.
eateroftheflame 10 months ago 2
Why are the Time Lords such assholes?
aquagrl63 10 months ago 77
@aquagrl63 Well, if you want to think of it this way, the Doctor got the last laugh when he ended the Time War. Except I don't think he'd believe it was anything to laugh about.
heavyarms01h 8 months ago
@heavyarms01h Well he wouldn't have had to kill them all if they weren't such complete dicks. Hey why didn't the Doctor turn into a mega-asshole? Yeah he was kind of a douche at first, but he was never like this.
aquagrl63 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 I think the reason the Doctor didn't become a total douche is the same thing that sets him apart from all the other Time Lords and what caused them to label him a renegade. He loves other people, other races, and believes wholeheartedly that they need to be defended. He can act stuck-up and cranky and proud of his race, but he's truly selfless at heart. The other Time Lords tended to act pompous and withdrawn into their own society, I think, and the Doctor couldn't stand that.
heavyarms01h 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 On the other hand... what I said may very well be an over-romanticization of the Doctor's point of view. There's a good comment below by MaskedMan66, I think, about the Time Lords' reasoning behind their super strict rules against "interfering" with other planets and events. It really can make them seem like jerks, especially since they are often so heavy-handed when punishing the Doctor even though he just saved the universe. Of course, they REALLY went nuts during the Time War.
heavyarms01h 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 I guess because they knew he would blow their asses all up someday
SashaNein 7 months ago
spastic...
TerryF377 11 months ago
The Doctor's worst fear. Daleks? no. Cybermen? Nope. Regeneration? Not really. Awkwardness and Getting Giddy? OH GOD YES MOST TERRIFYING THING EVER.
Jessiegurl77 11 months ago 6
@Jessiegurl77 Nicely put! =P
heavyarms01h 8 months ago
Another glitch in the story really, what are timelords doing forcing the doc to regenerate for? What's the reason he needs to change and since when did he get to pick his appearance? That implies he can know what he'll look like before it happens and I don't recall that in the new Who plotlines. They haven't repeated that one again.
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett For your first two questions watch the clip again. Also, I don't recall either of the new regenerations being down to the Timelords.
thejacalofskaro74 11 months ago
@thejacalofskaro74 plus the timle lords were kind of time locked
ralphy329 8 months ago
@bluejeckett could be punishmen coz in regenerating he loses one of his lives mind you its never actually said whether this was a regeneration or just a change of apperance or even a regeneration that they gave him and not one of this lives
THE4thTARDIS 10 months ago
@bluejeckett Actually, the idea crops up again when the First Romana changes to the 2nd, she was able to choose several times, and even went back again to the "Princess Astra" model.
craigtcaster 10 months ago
@craigtcaster Yeh Ive seen that, that was gay
bluejeckett 7 months ago
@bluejeckett Not a glitch at all. The Doctor was put on trial for interfering in the affairs of other worlds and peoples, which is strictly forbidden by the Time Lords' charter. They protect the balance of time and space and thus are defenders of the universe, but they stay out of other beings' business unless reality is threatened.
And of course the Doctor knows what he's going to look like; he's met his other selves several times.
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
@MaskedMan66 Hmm that last point u make is apt, not heard someone pick that up before and not thought of myself. It could explain away knowing how hell look but in which case one could argue the second doc would already know he doesnt end up with nay of those faces but the third, which he clearly doest so then he cANT HAVE met his third incarnation, which ofcourse we know he has in the five docs so that falls down and implodes on itself Im afriad.
bluejeckett 7 months ago
@bluejeckett The Second Doctor met the Third twice, in "The Three Doctors" as well as "The Five Doctors." I think it was just a vain effort on his part not to become the Third. In retrospect, it's interesting watching "Spearhead from Space" and seeing the Doctor (still with his second identity swirling around in his head) looking at his new face and saying, "Oh, no!" as he realizes he's become "Fancy Pants." Soon enough, the new personality takes over.
MaskedMan66 7 months ago
Gallifrey is NO more....unless the writers somehow revived it.
Wellch 11 months ago
@Wellch I hope they do, and that the Time Lords have all trace of the influences of Robert Holmes and RTD removed from them.
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
Well, he's too fat isn't he!
TheLeeVilenski 11 months ago
1:35
Is it just me, or does that look like David Tennant?
JustPhilNY 11 months ago 2
@JustPhilNY More like Peter Davison to me.
thejacalofskaro74 11 months ago
this one was funny
MrLangley59 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you think the first picture is Dumbledore
JoeConcerts 1 year ago 54
@JoeConcerts He looks more like his brother
TheMasterShake 5 months ago
@TheMasterShake Hmm, he does definitely have the fierceness of his brother, wouldn't say he fully does in my view.
JoeConcerts 5 months ago
How Gallifrey should be - The show at its most majestic
SparkyGerbil 1 year ago
Maybe that's why he never returned to Galifery, he didn't want to face his kids about it. This really is unusual territory for Old Who :)
GregDarcy 1 year ago
@blackphoenix From their point of view, they probably thought exiling him to Earth would cure him of his 'unhealthy' fixation with Earth. The Time Lords, for whatever reason, seem to have shut themselves off from the rest of the universe and have become very insular and repressed. Ah, one of the series's many great mysteries... You can see how The Doctor could have become frustated with that society and want to leave, and why he took Susan with him.
GregDarcy 1 year ago
From their point of view, they probably thought exiling him to Earth would cure him of his 'unhealthy' fixation with Earth. The Time Lords, for whatever reason, seem to have shut themselves off from the rest of the universe and have become very insular and repressed. Ah, one of the series's many great mysteries... You can see how The Doctor could have become frustated with that society and want to leave, and why he took Susan with him. (Maybe that's why The Doctor never went back home, he'd
GregDarcy 1 year ago
I saw this on DVD about a year ago and despite reading the novelisation when I was a kid and knowing what was coming, I was shocked at just how dark this scene actually is. Time Lords, not half creepy, eh?
GregDarcy 1 year ago
I cried when I first saw this regeneration on dvd--it was so unfair!! the Time Lords were total pricks! Why the Doctor always gets all misty about them is beyond me. I have this on dvd...the one the Doctor says is too thin looks a bit like Peter Davison!
blackphoenix77 1 year ago 2
2:11 lol, funny faces
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jamiemacrimmon 1 year ago
I love the creepy music that plays in the regeneration scene
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
i like this regernation its likes tennants cause either didnt wanted to go
TheWhuever 1 year ago
@TheWhuever Yeah. Poor little two, you can really see he's panicking, but desperately trying to keep himself together in the face of death, because that's how awesome he is.
That Time Lord judge, however, is some real jerk. He must be thinking: "I hope we get to execute him 12 times more!"
KendrixTermina 1 year ago
@KendrixTermina The Time Lords were doing what they had to do, and the Doctor knew that; as the saying goes, "It's a fair cop." The Doctor just didn't want to turn into "Fancy Pants."
MaskedMan66 8 months ago
it is odd how much that "too thin" sketch looked like David! hahaha And 2 really was kind of whiny wasn't he?
HeyBEatle123 1 year ago
Man, i wanna watch all the old Doctor Who's so BAD!!! Sadly, i came into the Doctor Who fold when Christopher Eccleston was the Doctor.
thephantom0 1 year ago
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@thephantom0
Whats the Problem? watch the old ones in order if you can find them at "crossingthewhoniverse (dot) com" and on the weekends, "Well here in Chicago Watch the Newer series..
The Return of the Doctor is a Bit odd, but 1-7 is the older ones 7 turning into 8 was a Movie, Which was not bad,
9-11 < bad numbers. Ian threw Matt smith is Not suppose to be a Continue of the old, But a RE-Start of the series with new ideas/stories/Budget. Enjoy both. it's all in the same Family,.
bcbandit123 1 year ago
@thephantom0 Check Dailymotion, and search for a user called tardismedia
DmitriMorozov312 1 year ago
@thephantom0
I would NEVER suggest torrenting them. I bet they are NOT all available as torrents. The ones that survived, that is. YOU CAN'T get the entire series of Hartnell, and a few of the Troughtons via torrent, as well as the Pertwees and Bakers. SO DON'T search for Doctor Who on isohunt.
brueckedude 9 months ago
I mean it's a shame his face didn't change right in front of us
JuddonPlatoon 1 year ago
The War Games is a great story
onlinegourmetfood 1 year ago 5
omg patrick troughton sounds like jon pertwee
isunic 1 year ago
1:35 he looks just like Tennant!
WackdProductions 1 year ago
Has anyone heard Patrick Troughton's son David recently? I think he could portray his father's role in the Big Finish audio productions!
HoneypieTheLover 1 year ago
.... does this count as a regeneration?
ObsessedProductions 1 year ago
@ObsessedProductions That depends, there's a popular theory that suggests that rather than regenerating immediately after this episode he was forced to work for the time lords before being exiled.
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
@ObsessedProductions - It did, the Time Lords executed him for his meddling in time and exiled his next incarnation to Earth (by sabotaging his Tardis). Just as Romana later (who regenrated after a dangerous radiation poisoning which wasn't immediately fatal) it seems you *can* have some control if you regenerate while your body still is somewhat intact, but the doctor has always clung to any life so never used that option.
CrystalblueMage 1 year ago
1:41 Spike Milligan?
Dristarg 1 year ago
Boris Johnson looks slim in this.
Spellchec 1 year ago
I've never seen an episode with this doctor but I love him already. :D
AngelGhostchild 1 year ago
@AngelGhostchild Troughton was really good. I suggest tracking down the episodes of his that still exist (many were wiped from the BBC archives, sadly).
LeslieChimes 1 year ago
@AngelGhostchild
OMG He is awesome. Most of the aspects of the 4th, 10th and 11th Doctors that people love, were developed by Pat Troughton. Grab his surviving eps, he is SO fun to watch. And his companions actually help him, as much as he helps them. Try "The Tomb of the Cybermen", "The Dominators", or "The Mid Robber".
brueckedude 9 months ago
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Loved the last episde of this show. I watched it online at lastnightstvshows (.) com
tranquilisolati 1 year ago
If You look at the pictures, funny thing noone notice this but me..
One of the pictures shown, look like the ninth doctor from the new series.
WarshipAngelus 1 year ago
"That wont do at all!" ..... personally, never saw a problem with Barry Chuckle!
bellymctubs 1 year ago
you can either be leonardo da vinci, rambo or david tennant!
StegoOnVenus 1 year ago 3
@StegoOnVenus LOL, pretty much!
LeslieChimes 1 year ago
Too Old = Santa Claus' Love Child
Too Fat = Norm & Fat Bastard's Adopted Son
conradojavier 1 year ago
even the dog is regiestered
funtimecamo 1 year ago
I think he was meant to look more like Peter Cushing. One of those in-jokes they love so much.
singalongluke 1 year ago
anybody noticed that the third choice of appearance..the one "too thin" looks like David Tennant?
darwin890140 1 year ago
awesome
benthehat 1 year ago
Great Scene and thanks for the history lesson. I notice you didn't give the Original air date for this Episode in the description as you did with the first(?)
SpyderFilmDayv 1 year ago
loved the vid,could you check mine out :) keep it up!
xxxrandomjamezxxx 1 year ago
Of all the Doctor's regenerations I find this one the most disturbing because, basically, the Time Lords are executing the Doctor's 2nd incarnation. It's a horrible ending for the cosmic hobo.
Alan1701b 1 year ago 6
It didn't end here - the multi-Doctor stories (Three Doctors, Five Doctors & Two Doctors) where the Second Doctor clearly has post-War Games memories indicate that this was a sham and that he actually went on working for them until eventually regenerating and being exiled to earth. In the Two Doctors he even had Jamie with him. But yes, this does look kinda harsh.
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago
Oh, I know this wasn't the actual end for the 2nd Doctor because he was rescued by the Celestial Intervention Agency for "Season 6-B" adventures...but I do get the impression that once the CIA were finished with him they sent him right back to exactly the same point from which they rescued him.
Alan1701b 1 year ago
@ApocalypseNext
There is no reason to believe those were "Post Wargames" memories. He had centuries of life as Troughton, and many years with Jamie. Not every second was documented on air. I have never bought that bit that they threw in with the comics about him suddenly getting a reprieve and NOT regenerating after they made his face into play-dough. It seems perfectly clear he was forced to regenerate on the spot and sent to Earth. The rest was ret-conned.
brueckedude 9 months ago
@brueckedude Then how, in the 5 Drs, does he know what happened to Jamie and Zoe? That's why he realised they weren't real - they shouldn't remember him. He spoke about it in the past tense, indicating that it had already happened in his personal timeline.
In the 2 Drs, he actually says he was sent by the Time Lords. Now why would pre-War Games 2nd Dr be working for the Time Lords? He's also visibly older - they don't try to make him look the same age, eg by dying his hair.
"No reason"? hmm...
ApocalypseNext 9 months ago
that regeneration was funny ...''no no no no no no no''
benthehat 1 year ago 14
"you can't just change my apppearance, without consulting me!"
"You will have an opportunity to choose your appearance."
"Oh. Well, that's not so bad..."
lol Oh, Doctor, we love you so!
tehSnark 2 years ago
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someone needs to edit this video to show actuial future doctors on the screen
perwtee - too old
colin baker - too fat
david tennant - too thin
matt smith - too young
sylvester mccoy - that wont do at all
shakeyphil 2 years ago 61
matt smith is LUSH
garretthedlundisfit 2 years ago 5
weird cause personally i think his head looks funny
GuerreBrigadier 2 years ago
lol
garretthedlundisfit 2 years ago
@shakeyphil
lol!
Swoooze 2 years ago
@shakeyphil lol
jellyjake98 1 year ago
@shakeyphil what the fuck are you talking about. at least half of that is absolutely wrong. i guess you don;t like matt colin or the real mccoy
OmegaShenron6574 1 year ago
@shakeyphil Hahaha
HTprods 1 year ago
@shakeyphil Colin baker..fat? not when he was the doctor..and he isnt that fat now. lol
LoveTimeLord 1 year ago
@LoveTimeLord hes probally dead now
giadstro1 1 year ago
@LoveTimeLord hes probally dead now
giadstro1 1 year ago
@LoveTimeLord hes
probally dead now
giadstro1 1 year ago
@shakeyphil Tom Baker - Too insane
madabbafan 1 year ago
@shakeyphil lmao
I4gotmyMANTRA 1 year ago