@krisbudz14 male choir, they're throat singing :) it's a special technique because it's made by humans, but sounds like an australian instrument, called didgeridoo. It's not a guess, it was Mark who said it's a choir, in a behind the scenes video.
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The composition, vocals and growling are all very good. The lyrics really give the song big bonus points though. The album is of course influenced by a point of view from what we see that Quantum Physics is showing us that we're all connected on the sub-atomic level. This is an idea that's being taken increasingly seriously. Mark said that this idea influences alot of songs on the album.
Mozart was a genius but compare to some modern composer he is int top shape... i d'ont want to fight about it so check his score on imslp by yourself analyse and then forge your opinion .
@jona4176 eerm, yes I have. I'm studying classical singing and damn of course I know lots of his pieces and I can sing some of them, too... So don't tell me anything about classical music or mozart^^
But there is no other song in that world similar to Kingdom of Heaven, I'm not talking about classical music or music in general, I'm talking about orchestral music kombined with metal, the songwriting, style and concept of the song. It's not only the music, but also the lyrics wich are awsome!
This is currently my favourite song in the world but not my most played song, because I don't always have the patience to listen for 13 mins 35 seconds!
I can't stop wondering how a human being can compose a song that lasts for 15 minutes without only one boring second.... such an intense song that gives you chilles for 15 minutes without a break! And so many completely diffrent parts that fit together so perfectly.... Only a real Genius can compose such a song!
@jona4176 Mozart is'int that great im getting bred of like concerto whit a little theme whit 145151 for accord . Im more in musique romantique and seriously if you get stuck on like mozart a genius youll never be a great composer. If you want to say that mozart is the best go listen to berlioz messian saient saense or watever before .......... beacuse exept for his last compo mozart music isint so genouyouly (i dont know if its a real word lol) composed.That is my opinion take it or not.
@MrBoiseau Mozart is a genius. Where ever you like it or not. And I don't know why you think such a thing, but I do listen to all kinds of composers. I'm constantly expanding my musical horizon.
@VanillaPink13 I guess it comes down to the industry vs the art (hit singles vs epic masterpieces).... I say it's time for a new era in music. I say it's time to think of the hit single as a dirty word in the industry... not the work of art.
I always tried to force my friends to listen but I quit because the music is too large for public to consume. Outstanding ideas put NW forever to hell !
Please, don't depreciate either Epica or Nightwish, because you're hurting people who like them both... they're different, so there's no need to compare them. Comparing different bands is as pointless as comparing the refridgerator and the microwave and trying to determine which is better.
Must be my favourite part of the album! The beginning of Kingdom of Heaven. So amazingly powerful, it's between creepy and magnificent. Both of them actually!! It gives me such chills!
I agree that this is truly an amazing song but if you want to hear the best song ever made listen to Art Of Life from X Japan that song truly is the Art Of Fife
but still this is a very good song its most likely one of the best epica songs I've heard
Je trouve que, au contraire, Epica s'est beaucoup amélioré avec le temps. Cette musique est même l'une des plus réussi de l'album Design your universe. Après, chacun son avis ...
i swear to god this album is true beautiful symphonic metal. like fuck this album is soo perfect it's scary. from the instruments, the choir, the lyrics, and simone's incredible godlike voice, nothing other than another epica masterpiece
The best song of the album just ahead Resign to Surrender, Deconstruct & Burn to a Cinder. Well they're what I am playing the most at the moment but then again Martyr of the Free Word, Unleashed and Our Destiny are pretty good too. While I agree that alot the songs are about different things i.e. burn to a cinder- vampires as someone said all still have some link to the core concepts of the album about the way people perceive reality 'designs their universe' and the power of our thoughts.
@angelofdarkness49 yes they have his name is Isaac Delahaye,he was in the death metal band God Dethroned so thats probably why epica become heavier wich is fucking awesome
@royalmetallica Thats step 2. Step 3 is over coming the duality of hell and heaven. Resort to the creater from which all came. The One...Scientificaly this would be using both sides of your brain at once. Logic and Fantasy. Male and Female, Dark and Light.
The music, Simone's vocals, Mark's growls, the meaningful lyrics, the 'epic' atmosphere, the theatrical spoken word piece, the choir, everything brilliant about this song. My new favourite song.
undeniably nightwish's sound has changed...........but that is more to do with Tuomas's musical ability's progressing and in some cases becoming more mature
i don't think it's entirely fair to start saying that a band is bad just because it has more fans than it did before...........you should be happy that more people are listening to real music instead of shit like 50cent and JLS etc.
@gothicNightwishFan true true but the prob with nightwish is that alot of ppl miss tarja being in it and i myself missed it wen tarja was the lead singer for nightwish but annete olson is good as well i must agree nightwish songs is the real meaning of music they talk abt all sort of things that happens around us
@gothicNightwishFan Actually Dark Passion Play sold more copies than any other album previously released by Nightwish. There will always be haters and naysayers who only like Tarja, but they have nevertheless evolved without her.
I wouldn't call the Oceanborn album candy store mainstream rock though! Like I said, I like the older Nightwish albums, but they just got caught up into the mainstream nowadays. But, that seems to happen to a lot of bands though.
But the REAL enemies of music shouldn't be so much Nightwish as much as bands like the Jonas Brothers for example!
Epica will be @ Monterrey Mexico Dec 05 I will be there!!!! just to see Simone Simons in concert will be the best in my life (in concerts)...well I think in everything will be the best, I mean...is Simone! EPICA
There music deals with fundamentalism, Politics, and Mayan Philosophy/Legend. Where this whole fantasy stuff comes from is beyound me. I mean really listen to Semblance of Liberty. You get the first Bush in there at one point say read my lips. Yeah that would so fit into fantasy.
In past albums they reference things like Mayan spirituality- 'Hunab Ku'. Now they are making references to Quantum Physics in their lyrics. Specifically the idea emerging that Quantum Physics is saying we are all linked at the sub-atomic level and we create our own realities. So we can 'Design Our Universe'. They're always developing and expanding their own views and expressing them in their their music, which also changes a bit in style from album to album.
That's only in this song and the title track though. Though KoH does have a few things about religion in there. Epica just does not like to put it front in center all the time.
From what I can see, most of the songs are influenced by a central philosophy. In this album it is the power of our thoughts to 'Design Our Universe'. Its a concept album just as The Divine Conspiracy was about the idea that 'god created many religions for man as a test'. I think its good that their songs have a message but are open to wide interpretation as well. Their lyrics aren't too preachy or anything. But I personally am really impressed by them.
You would be right about the concept if not for songssuch as Our Destiny which is about Epica. Burn to a Cinder which is about Vampires. Tides of Time which is about I believe Simone and Marks grandmothers. White Waters which is just a love song. TDC was the only concept ablum they have so far.
"The album title, Design Your Universe, deals with new breakthroughs in quantum physics. It proves that we are all connected to each other on subatomic level. Also, it shows that we can create or at least influence matter with our thoughts a very interesting fact. Because it changes everything for us, our whole worldview collapses once you accept these facts and integrate them in your lives. So this had to become the new album title." not every song- great title though.
Plenty of progressive thinkers have presented theories that link quantum physics with spirituality. Its clear that Epica have followed such ideas as you can see them in their lyrics.
Agreed. I am just curious what exact path they speak of though. I guess its a blend of religious,mythical,scientific and occult ideas. It seems eavily influenced by eastern cultures with song titles such as Samadhi and references to the Bardo. I am pretty sure the "design your own universe" term was made popular by Alestor Crowly. If this is true, I am glad im not the only one to blend different belief systems together.
The name itself - Design Your Universe - is a play to a belief of some hermetic alchemists as well as some modern sicentists (I believe even Mr. Hawking made a similar statement?) that to an extend, our universe we percieve is just a sum of the other's perceptions. So basicaly if you alter the way you think about a given idea or object, you can - to an extend - modify it. Sort of telemorphosis. So lots of songs on this album deal with perception and with percieving the world as is.
Opera vocals in combination with grunts make Epica what they are. Nightwish is decent but not as 'Epic' haha as Epica. I mean do they have masterpieces that last for 13 + minutes? I'm not aware of.
theres no "real" due to the different ways. maybe you can compare it with prog. you have death-like prog bands (e.g. opeth) or power-like (e.g. dream theater). and so its with symphonic: pagan-like as haggard and power-like as epica or nightwish.
actually they do.listen to ghost love score..btw an "epic" song doesnt need to be 20 minutes long and boring to be epic. im not saying this is boring i think this is great but your comment didnt make any sense.nightwish (in the past) was great and epica is epica and they are really good too...so thats it.
everything's great about this song- the vocals, the verses, the grunts, the theatrical parts where the guy says 'go back!' etc and the lyrics themselves are very good.
The new album is just so awesome, I think I am gonna buy it soon..... my new favorite of the genre.... until Within Temptation bring the new album, but that is quite a long time....
Sharon says WT have an album coming out in about a year from now. For now I enjoy another Epica masterpiece. I still listen to the WT acoustic album as well but not very often, not compared to Design Your Universe.
this is one (if not the only) of the most promising songs in this album...I can't stop listening to this one,thou the album is practically the same as the past ones...
They have a new guitarist, they have much more solo's now then before and Simone changed the hight of her voice she's a bit lower now an way more Epic imho.
Wow. My mouth completely dropped open when those opening riffs came in. I cant believe the sound of the entire album. They stepped their game up big time. Im amazed at how they've never dissapointed me on a single album yet.
Every time I hear this song, I think she says "Answers to the Great Shamu" ( A popular Orca whale in SeaWorld)
Jhartsock123 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
13 minutes of pleasure
Archilolify 1 month ago
What is the instrument at the beginning (0:00-0:16)?
krisbudz14 2 months ago
@krisbudz14 male choir, they're throat singing :) it's a special technique because it's made by humans, but sounds like an australian instrument, called didgeridoo. It's not a guess, it was Mark who said it's a choir, in a behind the scenes video.
doringeniko 1 day ago
I thought they remade the song FROM kingdom of heaven
SlightEcho 3 months ago
now you guys are fighting over refridgerator vs. microwave? LOL
Lucy1Nyuu 4 months ago
i saw epica last year... and i literally had an orgasm when that song entered at the part "children of the light".
rockgirl18241 4 months ago
Mark Jansen, i love your music. Simone Simons, i love your voice.
angiemusic994 4 months ago 2
Just so much awesome :)
DeathMagick1 5 months ago
this is one of the long-length symphonic masterpieces ever written!
wantedcode93 6 months ago 2
People need to open up their eyes and see that great composers lie within the metal scene. Mark is a wonderful composer.
CritiquingCricket 6 months ago 4
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clintmmartin 11 months ago
OMFG this is Epic!, rarely do I find music this good!
Aussie50 1 year ago 4
one word: masterpiece!
MargitHjukse 1 year ago 2
whoever dislike this song is a noob
lunatichaos 1 year ago 2
Mark Jansen's best so far :) it's so intense and it never lets go!
HorridDreams 1 year ago 4
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halozezima 1 year ago
Is it an instrument at the beginning or creepy voices?
Musicluffah 1 year ago
@Musicluffah
sorta sounds like an alpenhorn or something similar
dreamzwalker 1 year ago
@Musicluffah
Creepy voices ;-)
It's the ancient art of throat singing. Like Tibetan monks or mayan priests do.
Not an alpenhorn I'm pretty sure of it, I have a friend that teaches throat singing and that's what it sounds like.
MobileHomeSPIN 1 year ago
@MobileHomeSPIN And that gives a chill in the spine...
dpchiko17 1 year ago
The composition, vocals and growling are all very good. The lyrics really give the song big bonus points though. The album is of course influenced by a point of view from what we see that Quantum Physics is showing us that we're all connected on the sub-atomic level. This is an idea that's being taken increasingly seriously. Mark said that this idea influences alot of songs on the album.
pantherz9103 1 year ago 4
OMG I didn't know this one.
Epica have improve, it's a reality, a fact. I love them more than before ! <3
leadu13004 1 year ago
Mozart was a genius but compare to some modern composer he is int top shape... i d'ont want to fight about it so check his score on imslp by yourself analyse and then forge your opinion .
MrBoiseau 1 year ago
It's the best album *.*
Darknessio 1 year ago
Who ever gave this song a thumbs down must have horrible taste in music.
Open your mind to the beauty you cannot see and hear instantly. It will come. Learn to appreciate.
PurrrGatorI 1 year ago
Geiles Lied.
FrauGesty 1 year ago
@jona4176 eerm, yes I have. I'm studying classical singing and damn of course I know lots of his pieces and I can sing some of them, too... So don't tell me anything about classical music or mozart^^
But there is no other song in that world similar to Kingdom of Heaven, I'm not talking about classical music or music in general, I'm talking about orchestral music kombined with metal, the songwriting, style and concept of the song. It's not only the music, but also the lyrics wich are awsome!
VanillaPink13 1 year ago
Its funny how a simple comment can turn out to a discussion about Justin Bieber and Mozart. XD
epica is great, only thing I wont to say :P
wertyhDA 1 year ago
where can I buy the album?
rob4109 1 year ago
Perfectos? NO!
Idolos? NO!
Geniales? NO!
Asombrosos? NO!
DIOSES? SI!!
ES LA UNICA PALABRA PERFECTA QUE DEFINE A EPICA Y A ESTA OBRA DE ARTE!
Long Life to Epica!!
ladyroker9 1 year ago
This song gave me a new soul, and then destroyed it
diamadtiel 1 year ago
i first heard of Epica a year ago and since then they are my number one!!!Just the best.....
soublikios 1 year ago
The reason that Epica are so good is because everything just flows perfectly, the riffs and symphonic elements are like one!
souldefier 1 year ago 3
this music belongs on top of the charts...not stupid lady gag gag...or little baby justin...or any other artists with one stupid beat per song
Summitman29028 1 year ago 6
@Summitman29028 Why is Justin Beiber even being discussed, he is in another dimension when this song is playing!
808thampire 1 year ago 2
this album is awesome as hell....the greatest songs epica's ever
juankm86 1 year ago
look at the six idoits who missed the like button.
HEARisawesome 1 year ago 3
The monks and bells at the beginning creep me out...
ninoiphone12 1 year ago
I think this is the best song by Epica I've ever heard!
liliumsnovels667 1 year ago
Whoever doesnt like grunts is a little pop loving pussy!
For me, the vocalist are of least importance, Listen to the music... it's... amazing!
frankdakilla 1 year ago
Growls at the beginning are from the drummer =) !
niahaa 1 year ago
This is currently my favourite song in the world but not my most played song, because I don't always have the patience to listen for 13 mins 35 seconds!
pantherz9103 1 year ago
If you like Epica check out my Best top 10 Epica songs video.
Ace2021 1 year ago
5:06 I love this part <3
uryuu300 1 year ago
perfeit, remember the game GOD OF WAR 2, very nice!
Tonylacuna 1 year ago
@Tonylacuna More for God of War 3.
Zoza15 1 year ago
Mark Jansen is GOD!! ;)
I can't stop wondering how a human being can compose a song that lasts for 15 minutes without only one boring second.... such an intense song that gives you chilles for 15 minutes without a break! And so many completely diffrent parts that fit together so perfectly.... Only a real Genius can compose such a song!
VanillaPink13 1 year ago 244
bumped this comment to the top. true!
creativenick1 1 year ago 33
@VanillaPink13: Try The Whirlwind by Transatlantic, same as, but 77 minutes of awesomeness!
gladiatus123 1 year ago
@VanillaPink13 Obviously you haven't heard Mozart yet.
jona4176 1 year ago
@jona4176 Mozart is'int that great im getting bred of like concerto whit a little theme whit 145151 for accord . Im more in musique romantique and seriously if you get stuck on like mozart a genius youll never be a great composer. If you want to say that mozart is the best go listen to berlioz messian saient saense or watever before .......... beacuse exept for his last compo mozart music isint so genouyouly (i dont know if its a real word lol) composed.That is my opinion take it or not.
MrBoiseau 1 year ago
@MrBoiseau Mozart is a genius. Where ever you like it or not. And I don't know why you think such a thing, but I do listen to all kinds of composers. I'm constantly expanding my musical horizon.
jona4176 1 year ago
@jona4176 who woudnt think mozart is a genious??? 0_0
thyrf1ng 1 year ago
@VanillaPink13 I guess it comes down to the industry vs the art (hit singles vs epic masterpieces).... I say it's time for a new era in music. I say it's time to think of the hit single as a dirty word in the industry... not the work of art.
ninjastep87 1 year ago 2
@VanillaPink13 WORD!!! that's so fucking true awesome... epic !!!
Mago9117 1 year ago
@VanillaPink13
that is SO true! he rocks!! :D
jacquelaughter 1 year ago
@VanillaPink13 I'll take into account dude XDD
Sonofmetal16 1 year ago
@VanillaPink13 and then the most awesome vocals from Simone and Mark combined just makes this song HEAVEN
vnixned2 6 months ago
@VanillaPink13, Mozart.
YannisSalutatOmnes 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Epica
How Beautiful !!!
I always tried to force my friends to listen but I quit because the music is too large for public to consume. Outstanding ideas put NW forever to hell !
gleeaddicted 1 year ago
Please, don't depreciate either Epica or Nightwish, because you're hurting people who like them both... they're different, so there's no need to compare them. Comparing different bands is as pointless as comparing the refridgerator and the microwave and trying to determine which is better.
AntipaladinPedigri 1 year ago 85
@AntipaladinPedigri yea...everyone knows a refridgerator is better.
CycleSeth 9 months ago
@CycleSeth Grow up! A microwave is better!
AgilePeanut 8 months ago
@AgilePeanut you can make things explode in a microwave so I have to agree ;)
Aussie50 8 months ago
@AgilePeanut damn right, screw the refrigerator peasants!
Aizsaule 4 months ago
@AntipaladinPedigri the microwave, it cooks my foods.... I had to be a goof ball, you are so right about comparing the two bands.
okami89 3 months ago
If i were to compare Epica and Nightwish... I would have to say I like Epica more.
reasons:
1. sounds more intense.
2. Good balance between female vocals and male growl vocals.
3. The lyrics have more meaning to them.
4. Instrumental parts are more technical with some what classical influence.
anyway... Its just my opinion but I think Nightwish is overrated now days.
MysticDemonKnight 1 year ago 5
@MysticDemonKnight
I agree their music does a good job of combining vocal and lyrics and music
gleeaddicted 1 year ago
so epic...a
vincent870326 1 year ago
I love this song! Epica is my most beloved band of all bands! Symphonic metal is my favorite gender of music, and I listen to them every day. ^_^
uryuu300 2 years ago
Must be my favourite part of the album! The beginning of Kingdom of Heaven. So amazingly powerful, it's between creepy and magnificent. Both of them actually!! It gives me such chills!
windguide147 2 years ago
i suppose you've listened more than 4/5 min?
well i hope you dit otherwise you can't really judge a song of half an hour.
MrPinguinEmperor 2 years ago
@erkkizu
I agree that this is truly an amazing song but if you want to hear the best song ever made listen to Art Of Life from X Japan that song truly is the Art Of Fife
but still this is a very good song its most likely one of the best epica songs I've heard
MrPinguinEmperor 2 years ago
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it's boring. Epica is way better.
ArtusXCI 2 years ago
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Je suis décue... ou est Simone et sa belle voix ? Que du hard core et du growl... :-(
aelia88 2 years ago
Je trouve que, au contraire, Epica s'est beaucoup amélioré avec le temps. Cette musique est même l'une des plus réussi de l'album Design your universe. Après, chacun son avis ...
lulu121th 2 years ago
I tried to sing along but I can't. My voice is shaking and I feel too paralysed and amazed. Probably the most amazing song ever made.
erkkizu 2 years ago 2
This is music is another level for being a vocalist, So Epica Can Only Perform this song...
Zoza15 2 years ago
I think this is the best song on the cd, and the lyrics is so good and unusual for metal, quantum physics!!
MargitHjukse 2 years ago 3
i swear to god this album is true beautiful symphonic metal. like fuck this album is soo perfect it's scary. from the instruments, the choir, the lyrics, and simone's incredible godlike voice, nothing other than another epica masterpiece
5556661678 2 years ago 3
fuckin rights!!!!!!!
mcalder01 2 years ago
Going to see them live is Worcester, MA!
mjtambe 2 years ago
@mjtambe I WAS THERE.
Sooooooooooooooo disappointed they didn't play The Last Crusade.
But it was still a mad awesome set list.
Smc316 2 years ago
I was hoping they'd play Chasing the Dragon. The guys next to me wanted "The Phantom Agony". They just have too many awesome songs!
mjtambe 2 years ago
@mjtambe I was sort of aggravated that they played "Design Your Universe"
It's one of very few Epica songs I dislike, and it's so long that they could've played two normal length songs instead.
Oh well.
Also, Oliver from Kamelot filled in on keyboards - AWESOME.
Smc316 2 years ago
The best song of the album just ahead Resign to Surrender, Deconstruct & Burn to a Cinder. Well they're what I am playing the most at the moment but then again Martyr of the Free Word, Unleashed and Our Destiny are pretty good too. While I agree that alot the songs are about different things i.e. burn to a cinder- vampires as someone said all still have some link to the core concepts of the album about the way people perceive reality 'designs their universe' and the power of our thoughts.
pantherz9103 2 years ago
Thinking mans metal. Best band ever!
8palmsofpower 2 years ago 2
Do Epica have a new guitarist or something? There seems to be more guitar rifts which sounds awsome.
angelofdarkness49 2 years ago 2
@angelofdarkness49 yes they have his name is Isaac Delahaye,he was in the death metal band God Dethroned so thats probably why epica become heavier wich is fucking awesome
Vakian 2 years ago
@angelofdarkness: Yep, Ad is replaced by Isaac Delahaye =)
6Epixa 2 years ago
my favorite epica song, and my second favorite song out of everything ^^
mallyvarGH 2 years ago 5
marvelous....... it takes you to an epic world... where both hell and heaven meets.... where only "they" rule it!
royalmetallica 2 years ago 3
@royalmetallica Thats step 2. Step 3 is over coming the duality of hell and heaven. Resort to the creater from which all came. The One...Scientificaly this would be using both sides of your brain at once. Logic and Fantasy. Male and Female, Dark and Light.
KoopdaVillain602 2 years ago
epica rules
SirShield 2 years ago 4
One of the best song I have ever heard!Ty creativnick1 for posting this video!
cooltuque 2 years ago 6
this song owns consign to oblivion ^^
great!!
biiQar 2 years ago 6
conditioning cannot fool us 'till the end
WayfarerJester 2 years ago 2
what to say? heavenly.
WayfarerJester 2 years ago 2
The music, Simone's vocals, Mark's growls, the meaningful lyrics, the 'epic' atmosphere, the theatrical spoken word piece, the choir, everything brilliant about this song. My new favourite song.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 9
Prehaps the best song they have ever made.
Epica124 2 years ago 23
you forgot one more thing - guitar solos
tuarciano 1 year ago
freaking awesome song i love the whole album lol.
shadowsun4386 2 years ago 5
a tombstone for nightwish...
PetrolHeadGR213 2 years ago
Insane good album, the only group who can compete with them is Therion imo(gothic kabbalah/miskoic experience albums)
Crosfaderr 2 years ago
13:35 Minutes Track..
Zoza15 2 years ago
With this Song I really feel me in a Kingdom of Heaven...*dream*
StFrancisFolly 2 years ago 2
perfect song!
kokodoriskoko 2 years ago
im not sure
undeniably nightwish's sound has changed...........but that is more to do with Tuomas's musical ability's progressing and in some cases becoming more mature
i don't think it's entirely fair to start saying that a band is bad just because it has more fans than it did before...........you should be happy that more people are listening to real music instead of shit like 50cent and JLS etc.
gothicNightwishFan 2 years ago 47
@gothicNightwishFan true true but the prob with nightwish is that alot of ppl miss tarja being in it and i myself missed it wen tarja was the lead singer for nightwish but annete olson is good as well i must agree nightwish songs is the real meaning of music they talk abt all sort of things that happens around us
HellFire2034 1 year ago
@gothicNightwishFan but its a little bit out of place
chefite 1 year ago
@gothicNightwishFan Actually Dark Passion Play sold more copies than any other album previously released by Nightwish. There will always be haters and naysayers who only like Tarja, but they have nevertheless evolved without her.
aspectra 1 year ago
Great and realliy great...philosophy infinite connotations.
But a great and wise message... for us
MagalieMonroy 2 years ago
I wouldn't call the Oceanborn album candy store mainstream rock though! Like I said, I like the older Nightwish albums, but they just got caught up into the mainstream nowadays. But, that seems to happen to a lot of bands though.
But the REAL enemies of music shouldn't be so much Nightwish as much as bands like the Jonas Brothers for example!
MFL0316 2 years ago 6
I love it
PoisonHorusX 2 years ago
5.11 for the win, creepy kind of erratic and beautiful as all hell...kinda makes me shiver and blew my mind
BritneyFanFeva 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I love that part so damn much. It's incredibly beautiful & powerful!
linvik1 2 years ago
Epica will be @ Monterrey Mexico Dec 05 I will be there!!!! just to see Simone Simons in concert will be the best in my life (in concerts)...well I think in everything will be the best, I mean...is Simone! EPICA
UP THE IRONS, UP EPICA!!!!
elmartco 2 years ago
u dont know shit about music....
missghotica 2 years ago
...and you're certainly in a position to know that based on a few YouTube comments.
Funny... we skipped over Symphotic Metal in my music appreciation classes.
JosiahSilas 2 years ago
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So is symphonic metal a market that's pretty much cornered by anime/WOW nerds?
JosiahSilas 2 years ago
How stereotypical. I'm not into either of those things don't know where you'd get that idea.
pantherz9103 2 years ago
There music deals with fundamentalism, Politics, and Mayan Philosophy/Legend. Where this whole fantasy stuff comes from is beyound me. I mean really listen to Semblance of Liberty. You get the first Bush in there at one point say read my lips. Yeah that would so fit into fantasy.
Epica124 2 years ago 2
In past albums they reference things like Mayan spirituality- 'Hunab Ku'. Now they are making references to Quantum Physics in their lyrics. Specifically the idea emerging that Quantum Physics is saying we are all linked at the sub-atomic level and we create our own realities. So we can 'Design Our Universe'. They're always developing and expanding their own views and expressing them in their their music, which also changes a bit in style from album to album.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 7
That's only in this song and the title track though. Though KoH does have a few things about religion in there. Epica just does not like to put it front in center all the time.
Epica124 2 years ago 2
From what I can see, most of the songs are influenced by a central philosophy. In this album it is the power of our thoughts to 'Design Our Universe'. Its a concept album just as The Divine Conspiracy was about the idea that 'god created many religions for man as a test'. I think its good that their songs have a message but are open to wide interpretation as well. Their lyrics aren't too preachy or anything. But I personally am really impressed by them.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 5
You would be right about the concept if not for songssuch as Our Destiny which is about Epica. Burn to a Cinder which is about Vampires. Tides of Time which is about I believe Simone and Marks grandmothers. White Waters which is just a love song. TDC was the only concept ablum they have so far.
Epica124 2 years ago 2
Mark quoted
"The album title, Design Your Universe, deals with new breakthroughs in quantum physics. It proves that we are all connected to each other on subatomic level. Also, it shows that we can create or at least influence matter with our thoughts a very interesting fact. Because it changes everything for us, our whole worldview collapses once you accept these facts and integrate them in your lives. So this had to become the new album title." not every song- great title though.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 4
Just remember that the title is part of there New Age Dawns line. ;) And you are right is it s very great title. :)
Epica124 2 years ago
@pantherz9103 As i stated before, This is surpassing Duality. Merging science and magic is a great form of overcoming duality.
I dont mean hokus pokus magic either. I mean in the spiritual sence. Hermetic Alchemy.
KoopdaVillain602 2 years ago
Plenty of progressive thinkers have presented theories that link quantum physics with spirituality. Its clear that Epica have followed such ideas as you can see them in their lyrics.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 3
Agreed. I am just curious what exact path they speak of though. I guess its a blend of religious,mythical,scientific and occult ideas. It seems eavily influenced by eastern cultures with song titles such as Samadhi and references to the Bardo. I am pretty sure the "design your own universe" term was made popular by Alestor Crowly. If this is true, I am glad im not the only one to blend different belief systems together.
KoopdaVillain602 2 years ago
The name itself - Design Your Universe - is a play to a belief of some hermetic alchemists as well as some modern sicentists (I believe even Mr. Hawking made a similar statement?) that to an extend, our universe we percieve is just a sum of the other's perceptions. So basicaly if you alter the way you think about a given idea or object, you can - to an extend - modify it. Sort of telemorphosis. So lots of songs on this album deal with perception and with percieving the world as is.
Illsteward 2 years ago
Opera vocals in combination with grunts make Epica what they are. Nightwish is decent but not as 'Epic' haha as Epica. I mean do they have masterpieces that last for 13 + minutes? I'm not aware of.
Epica are the masters at what they do.
pantherz9103 2 years ago
I agree. Nightwish is too pop-ish, and gets boring. This is what real Symphonic METAL should sound like!
pmanderson 2 years ago 3
Real Symphonic metal is Haggard
Crusnik222 2 years ago
Yeah, yeah :P
pmanderson 2 years ago
theres no "real" due to the different ways. maybe you can compare it with prog. you have death-like prog bands (e.g. opeth) or power-like (e.g. dream theater). and so its with symphonic: pagan-like as haggard and power-like as epica or nightwish.
j1964s20110 2 years ago
exactly...
missghotica 2 years ago
actually they do.listen to ghost love score..btw an "epic" song doesnt need to be 20 minutes long and boring to be epic. im not saying this is boring i think this is great but your comment didnt make any sense.nightwish (in the past) was great and epica is epica and they are really good too...so thats it.
missghotica 2 years ago
....the poet and the pendulum is definitely epic!
j1964s20110 2 years ago 5
The Poet and the Pendulum by Nightwish is a few seconds shy of 14 minutes...
jibber102 2 years ago
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The band is rocking pretty hard, but the vocals are not even interesting. Demon Hunter ftw
JosiahSilas 2 years ago
The vocals are amazing, the lyrics are amazing. Epica owns all.
pantherz9103 2 years ago 2
everything's great about this song- the vocals, the verses, the grunts, the theatrical parts where the guy says 'go back!' etc and the lyrics themselves are very good.
Got this in my head now:
Quantum Physics leads us to
Answers to the great taboos
We create the world around us
God is every living soul
pantherz9103 2 years ago 3
i love the vocals in this song
LordPetee 2 years ago
man i am going 2 order the cd ow from the internet!!!!!! do they rule or what???
redtzky 2 years ago 3
m_) of course they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to buy it too lol
real artist hypnotize and even make you make decisions with your pocket so weird
gatometalico 2 years ago
God damn I want this album so bad, I love Epica so much
GothicAnimeAngel 2 years ago 3
witch scales do they use?
i don't think this is minor...a church modi or something?
Indgard 2 years ago
The new album is just so awesome, I think I am gonna buy it soon..... my new favorite of the genre.... until Within Temptation bring the new album, but that is quite a long time....
Evildespotar 2 years ago 3
Their new acoustic album is out, but are they working on a new one??? I do hope so! =) When's it coming out??
nightqueen14 2 years ago
Sharon says WT have an album coming out in about a year from now. For now I enjoy another Epica masterpiece. I still listen to the WT acoustic album as well but not very often, not compared to Design Your Universe.
pantherz9103 2 years ago
@pantherz9103 Yes
Wt is just acoustic not much rock !
gleeaddicted 1 year ago
I have plenty of room for both WT and epica on my ipod. But I listen to Epica a little bit more.
pantherz9103 1 year ago
my favorite song from the new album.
sekadea 2 years ago
this is one (if not the only) of the most promising songs in this album...I can't stop listening to this one,thou the album is practically the same as the past ones...
lateralex90 2 years ago
They have a new guitarist, they have much more solo's now then before and Simone changed the hight of her voice she's a bit lower now an way more Epic imho.
HyperburnSeroo 2 years ago
yeah that improved the band a lot..isaac is great
missghotica 2 years ago
fantastic! divine, i love epica, always.
danielbox66 2 years ago 5
ascoltate aleale252 (taking over me)!! è assolutamente ridicola in un pietoso tentativo di imitare amy lee!!
arietta79 2 years ago
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arietta79 2 years ago
listen aleale252!! great!!
lazingaraxxx 2 years ago
5:36-51; reminds me of riffage from Dimmu Borgirs "death cult armageddon".
Anyways, this song is fucking brillianht as is pretty much every other song on the album and every song they've ever written.
Simone, I worship you!
Iconoclastithon 2 years ago 4
Arien said in a video to the Drummerszone, that they got a little bit of Dimmu Borgir fill in that part. Just brilliant!
SirMustis666 2 years ago
Wow. My mouth completely dropped open when those opening riffs came in. I cant believe the sound of the entire album. They stepped their game up big time. Im amazed at how they've never dissapointed me on a single album yet.
Donadeus7Mostart 2 years ago 6
you are so right!!!
KFSBTYR 2 years ago
WOW! This PWNS Nightwish!!!! O_O Take notes Nightwish, these guys just de-throned you!!
MFL0316 2 years ago 20
They exercised ownage over Nightwish long before this great song
pantherz9103 2 years ago