Antonín Dvořák: Stabat Mater I (a) (Talich cond.)

[Tinweluine]

5:40 :o)

[everydayholidayay]

I am happy to get to know of Dvorak's Stabat Mater. I love the dolorosa. It always turns my thoughts inward and brings me to the lowest and deepest. Thanks for all postings! Brightest Blessings to you! ^____^

[NEMESIS371]

This is the piece that got me into classical music. Still excites me and makes me feel as if I'm flying.

[jnb4j]

@FrufruJ I am not exactly clear on the details, but I just finished reading a biography of Dvorak, and the author made numerous comments about many people disliking Dvorak in favor of his elder Czech contemporary Smetana. Largely the debate was political, and some people see Smetna as more nationalistic than Dvorak. In Czechoslovakia this opinion was made state policy by a man named Zdenek Nejedly. Wish I knew more...

[frufruJ]

@jnb4j I didn't find anything except (google): "NEJEDLÝ CONTRA JANÁČEK: THE CONTROVERSY

CONCERNING MODERN CZECH MUSIC", it'll be among the first links, but it's more concerned about Janáček. There is something on antonin-dvorak[dot]cz, but only in Czech. The English translation of the site is under construction, but if you wish, I can translate that part for you or translate the summary of the problem.

[frufruJ]

@jnb4j PS: My friend found something in English. YouTube doesn't allow links, so search in Google *with* quotation marks: "The controversy over the place of Antonin Dvorak in the history of Czech national music."

[philatelist26]

@frufurJ: Ah, mea culpa. Thanks for the posting, I'm singing the bass solos next week, hence the interest. Superb music.

[philatelist26]

@frufruJ: at the end of the excerpt, which is incomplete. The whole of the section featuring soloists and choir is missing.

[frufruJ]

@philatelist26 That's because YouTube limits the time of videoclips to ten minutes.

[philatelist26]

Beautiful, but why the cut before the soloists enter? Copyright?

[frufruJ]

@philatelist26 What time is the cut?

[dreamerbliss]

My choir just sang this recently...it is such a beautiful, moving piece.

[Twjdfa]

Silencio respeto divino Dvorák que dolor los hijos......Dios mio por que tu escrituras son notas del cielo benditas ....caer y refugiarte en esta musica mis mas profundos respetos.....La Obra es una canción hacia Dios pidiendole auxilio escuchar esto te hace arrdillarte............Gracias por dar a conocer este video

[frangipanigirlcz]

tohle je uplne krasna muzica.

[MartlB69]

ein Wahnsinnsstück, in dem man genau mitspürt, wie die Nadeln des Schmerzes zustechen und er am Ende mit den Fäusten auf den Tisch trommelt. Ich kann es gut nachvollziehen, auch aus leider ähnlicher Situation. Ab dem zweiten Teil, wo der Tenor beginnt, hat es für mich aber einige schwer erträgliche lyrische Stellen darin wie in italienischen Opern, und am Schluss mag ich es gar nicht mehr sonderlich. Da höre ich lieber nur den ersten Teil ein paarmal hintereinander.

[Siberiaeterna]

Absolument magnifique!

[ColdBlackBlood666]

Great piece.

[BeadlyDastard]

Josefa ;_;

[halloerde]

Thank you for this. No other performance comes close. Talich waited until he was in his 50's to conduct this work, when he considered that he was mature enough,and had personally suffered a great deal. He was persecuted first by the Nazis, then the Communists. He once conducted this work, and commenced by saying, "I am a Catholic" I believe in this", in front of Communist officials, which could have landed him in jail, again. There are very few recordings by Talich, but he is one of the greats.

[sotlaw1]

Like a turbulent sea, sadness and hope exchange positions...

[1PetiteMome]

I had the great honour to sing it in 2005 in a huge church. twas quite wonderful and touching! I especially love quando corpus morietur & tui nati vulnerati

[thesvenfaboules]

where was this 2005? i also sung it in this year...was amazing

[1PetiteMome]

it was in plauen in saxony^^(ger)

best wishes!! =)

[thesvenfaboules]

by me it was in potsdam brandenburg

[PaterEngelbert]

Wunderschön und so traurig! Ein ergreifendes Bild!

Heute ist auch das Fest der sieben Schmerzen Marias.

[volk410]

Děkuji for posting this series. I am so looking forward to listening to the whole thing. I adore Dvořák, and his Stabat mater, of course.

[seancoxen]

These Stabat Mater videos are beautifully done, Jana. Thanks for your devotion to this milestone interpretation of a sublime work.

[SamuelFeinberg]

Thanks, it is a wonderful performance. I still have to get to know his interpretation of Suk's Asrael. It is said to be hauntingly beautiful.

[Sinfoniette]

Thanks.Its hard to see a great rendition of an obscurity with one of the most renowned Czech conductors. Do you have his or Ancerls recording of the requiem? It deserves to he heard by all Dvorak fans.

[llevith]

absolutely divine. I love dvorak works, stabat mater and requiem as well. we can almost touch divine. we feel the power and sorrow and an incredible respect. it is not just something to hear, but to pay respect and meditate. unfortunatelly he has been ostracized. hope that changes soon.

[frufruJ]

Ostracized? Where?

Thanks for the comment

[llevith]

in my contry, at least. but for as i can see, there are not many reccordings of his religious works. take svata ludmila as an exemple. or requiem. there are very few records for this works. and other as well. his operas, for exemple. maybe em Chzec Republic you can find a lot, but in Portugal, or even online...you have a very limited choice.

[ollienew]

Thanks very much for your reply, frufruJ!

[ollienew]

Does anyone know what made Dvorak compose this? The music is SO tragic. Was he composing it specially for the Good Friday? I cannot think of the more appropriate ( if it's the right word) music for the Passion Friday ( i am an Orthodox Christian, that's what we call a Good Friday)

[frufruJ]

All that I know is in the descriptions. Dvořák started composing it mainly as a reaction to the death of one of his children. First three of his children died suddenly within a short period of time. That is probably why he was able to express the tragedy of the Mother. loosing her Son.

Thanks for your comments!

[1401JSC]

As did Schütz (Musikalisches Exquien), Mahler, Fauré, and many other composers.

[cchamp27]

yes, he originally started the work one his daughter at the time died. Yet he set it aside for other obligations. Over the next 8 months, his other 2 remaining children died, and he returned to this work and completed it with such grief in his heart.

[urmorph]

Many, many thanks for posting this masterpiece, to my mind the best as well as the longest of the settings of the great poem usually attributed to Jacopone da Todi (1228-1306--see his article in Wikipedia). The performance is wonderful, the images tasteful and appropriate, the text and commentry superb. I find it less and less believable that English is not your first language. -- John PS--see one final comment at Part X

[frufruJ]

Thank you very much for your comments.

Thanks for commmenting on my English, but except for the first comment (this one), all of them are taken from somewhere else. AND I had a typo here :-))) Unless stated otherwise, the commentaries are from the CD booklet.

Glad you like it.

[urmorph]

Ah, but even your comment on my comment is in excellent English! :))

[frufruJ]

OK, if you insist... ;-)

Thank you, really.