I can't see all comments so I don't know if this was already covered- You mention whey as being a soy product to avoid. Whey is a milk-processing byproduct. It's dairy protien.
its very immature to think u will turn int a woman buy taking a known food, its scientificaly impossible, also soy has also shown reverse effects and no effects on testosterone levels and estrogen levels, i dont know why people are soo childish and immatue.. ''turn to a woman'' :P
I've already consumed about 12 pounds of blended protein over the past months and I haven't experienced anything femaleish symptoms. In fact, my chest has even gotten more muscular and defined.
But hey, even if it does have that effect, think about it: if you stop taking steroids, your testosterone level will be lowe than original, right? So if you stop taking soy, your estrogen level will be lower than original. :D
The amount of protein we take daily makes soy very significant, especially if you're using a soy protein. If you are consistent with it, you will have bitch tits. But thats just me; you can go out there and do whatever the fuck you wanna do.
i think you guys are jimmy struthers; beliving a simply dude that says some bullshit he dreamt the night before, keep it simply: have you tried it: did ur balls go smaller and did you get boobz? no, no way. test that shit before...
okay pepz: SOY PROTEIN TASTES SO BAD THAT UR GONNA PUKE AND BE SICK FOR 5 STRAIGTH DAYS AFTER, so 90 % of proteins out there has 0 or low soy protein in it...
i'm a vegetarian and i started working out with my friends at the same time and the truth is i'm as big as them so i'd say this is not worth listening to, but it's just advice right?
@diwnohsaur hey I heard a doctor show on tv where it says that the amount of estrogen in soy is absolutly insignificant and that their is absolutly no chance of getting boo*s or have any danger when taking it. Just saying!
water + green tea. Green tea is good for BB, it's great! and this comes from a dude who knows over 10 body builders who had green tea for years! and I use it myself... don't see the problem. Don't get scared of it. Whey exist in every protein powder, so don't worry about that shit.
Okay green tea is for women? You know what, I'll do whatever the fuck I wanna do. I'ma go in my kitchen, get that green tea bag and shove it up my cup real good, in my warm nice juicy cup and then drink it. It's just beneficial. But that's just me, you can do w/e the fuck you wanna do.
Hey twins, i am taking some multivitamins besides my protein shake. Its the AMP Strength Vitapak Program and it has 6 pills. It contains fish and soybeans, amplified creatine, tribulus terrestris and anabolic primer. Do i have to stop using this and just buy the regular creatine that you guys recommend on your site. Im confused after watching this video or this only applies to soy protein powder only?
Soy does not turn you into a woman! All that research about estrogen was done on rats. When the same research was done on humans, results were all positive.
i dont think its true, ive been using soy protein for a few months now and i dont feel different and nothing has changed. i think another study showed soy doesnt drop the testosterone leven at all or at least not that much to cause hormone levels to change. i put on about 6 kg in 2 months n my fat percentage stayed the samem, i only used soy protein.
Im a endomorph TRYN 2 LEAN. BREAKFAST is 3 packs of Quaker Oats oatmeal made witrh water not milk my SNACKS is usually a fiber one bar or green seedless grapes my LUNCH is a turkey breast sandwhich with guldens spicy mustard on Arnolds whole grain 12 grain bread my DINNER is A Chicken breast cutlet brolied with no skin with a dole romaine blend salad I try to eat 3hrs in bettween is that ok for a way for me to eat anyones help whould be great and I take ON 211 RECOVERY SHAKE AFTER A WORKOUT
Ok, well I'm a female and doing Judo. I want a healthier body and also to get even more toned. So are you saying Soy will make me have larger boobs? ;). In all seriousness, how does it affect a female body? I've heard estrogen production makes your body preserve more carbohydrates and therefore makes it harder to loose weight and release energy.
The twins sort of have a point here as it talks about breast cancer survivors, but not men working out:
"Soybeans are rich in essential omega-3 fatty acids, but tend to be higher in total fat than other beans... Also, soy extracts, such as genistein, may not have the same beneficial effects as products made with the whole bean. In fact, it’s best for breast cancer survivors to avoid concentrated soy supplements and protein powders until further research is conducted."
Here's something interesting about the "dangers" of soy overall:
"For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility. Research studies show that men consuming soy have less prostate cancer and better prostate cancer survival."
I've been taking soy protein for the longest, and my nuts and chest are just fine. The body uses the protein to build musclesand tissue like any other protein.
Unless you want a fucked up stomach, you better stay away from whey protein. Whey protein is one of the worse proteins folks could be taking.
NO evidence to say soy protein transforms you into a woman. LOL People are so guliable.
@afterth0ughts Why don't you take a biology class, child. All those so-called "studies" trying to dirty Soy protein are influenced by the Dairy lobby. Soy protein is a very good protein for you, it doesn't do ANY of the things these two fellas claimed. These two go on rumors, not fact. Do you know that protein companies actually PAY for people to say that?
Soy protein comes from a plant, whey protein comes from a cow's milk. Whey protein is unatural, while soy is natural.
@afterth0ughts It comes from a cow's milk. And yes, it's unnatural. Cow milk is specifically made for baby calves.
Why do you think people get all kinds of bad reactions when they drink milk? Why do you see lactose intolerance? Why do you see people with digestive problems and diarrhea from folks that ingest too much of it?
Soy does none of the things these two disinformation agents just said. A matter of fact, more UFC fighters are training using Soy than ever. .
@afterth0ughts LOL Dude, where do you think Whey protein comes form? It's milk. That has been the crux of my point the entire time. Did you think Whey protein comes from a plant or something?
You just keep talking about cock and saying I'm a female, maybe you are insecure with your sexuality, kid. LOL
Look, my point was a simple one: this video is completely void of facts, and the two steroid injected twins don't know what they're talking about. Soy protein is better for you than whey. Just is
@Seedofwinter I FUCKING KNOW WHEY PROTEIN COMES FROM MILK, YOU PIECE OF SHIT. dont be made cuz your non existent dick is all shriveled up, mad phaggot. And you claiming that these 2 are on steroids shows how fuckin ignorant you are. You made that you're a skinny phag for life cause your mother fed you soy protein your whole life? HAHAHAHAH.
@afterth0ughts I used to be 200 pounds of muscle bro, but have since decided being that big was useless and wasted too much of my time. Much rather spend my time chasing tail, making money and Battlefield LOL
Look bro, I disagree with you, but by all means, live your life the way you wish. I'm not going to stop you. But when you are 60 years old shitting in your underwear, you will remember the conversation you had with Seedofwinter, and his ominous warning.
@afterth0ughts, You're getting burned badly and to make it worse, you act like an insecure man. Now go think of the bestest insult you can "think" of.
@Seedofwinter i agree with u slightly as in i dont believe all this soy problems even if it had a shitload of estrogen and other hormones how would that even make it into ur blood stream lol u know how hard prohormone companies work to protect there prohormones from getting destroyed also strongman derek poundstone takes alot of soy protien as part of his diet
@Seedofwinter, I don't take soy protein as a supplement, but I do consume soy drink with fortified vitamins and minerals (B12, D, Calcium, etc.). I've heard it so many times (mostly from unhealthy people) how soy makes a man more feminine, yet my pecs are relatively solid compared to the average man, and I'm also more athletic than the average man. I posted a quote from the Cancer Project org website about the "dangers" of soy. Not sure anyone wants to hear it.
somebody please answer! what type of protein should i take, because whey protein has soy, everything that everybody is recommending has soy in it. so what should i take that doesnt have any soy or soy by product in it?
@rainxxxx No, there can't be estrogen or testosterone in most natural occurring foods, but some things could trigger certain hormone productions. For instance, Oysters do not carry testosterone but they do have copious amounts of zinc, which acts as a catalyst for male testosterone.
So in essence, soy does not carry estrogen (a female hormone), but it does have some properties that could evoke high amounts of estrogen in a man's body.
@pekenosmokey mabe, but most foods do that anyway, and some people have to drink soy milk as they are allergic to regular milk, but on the whole, those 2 clowns are talking shit again, they dont always but this time they are just like when they were talking about muscle milk!
@rainxxxx yes you will. if you search around the internet, watch youtube videos and studies you will find a lot of information that shows that soy got phytoestrogens. ITS A FACT.
@rainxxxx My conclusion would be that some soy is fine, but it will definately increase your estrogen levels if you eat a lot of it, but thats just my advice you dont have to follow it cuz at the end of the day you can do whatever the fuck you wanna do!
That is why we need HEMP! it is way better than Soy and has way more protein and it also has EVERY amino acid!! this includes all the meat proteins! plus the essential fatty acids help regulate your body as well.
HEMP SEED is the most beneficial seed known to man.
You don't know what you're saying!!. I've been eating soy like 15 years ago and I am really muscular and lean, no boobs or stuff like that. What you're saying is shit!!. Make a serious search before opening your mouth.
I actually eat soya beans as there a complete protein. i think ud be fine with the beans theres sooo much protein in them, also the way the body would work with high levels of estrogen (if true) would be to increase testicle size to counter the hi estrogen with higher levels of testosterone. this is why wen you take steroids (testosterone) your balls shrink
This is true I was using soy beans and tofu because of the protein content and low fat and I was gettin a chub look on the chest til I stopped for good
Greg Paul, Ph.D., director of health and nutrition for The Solae Company says:
"The results of this study show that soy protein is just as effective as whey protein in building lean muscle mass as part of a dedicated exercise and nutrition regimen, while contradicting the MYTH that soy protein may negatively impact testosterone levels in men.
He says:"If you take any type of protein blend that has soy, casein, whey, I wouldn't take it".Now Jose, you just put up there altogether all the proteins Arnold Schwarzenegger took and same proteins body-builders around the world still use.(I don't see boobs on Arnold do you?Pecs maybe,boobs I see on Pamela)
Can I still call you Jose?Sure I can.U both look like some smart guys with medicine studies.Did you know that the isoflavones (ISOFLAVONES-fucking google it), are removed from powders?Jose?
Guys from where you have that informations? Food can affect hormones in your body only when u got very very bad disease like hyperthyroidism etc. Soya is healthy protein, no worry. Its a nonsense what these guys talk on this video. "woman from protein" funny thing, looks like commercial repeating.peace
Ya'll must have been hanging out with Jimmy Stuthers when you made this video! Why on earth would you believe in stupid shit study like that when you're the first ones here that preach against stupid supplement company propaganda which are only interested in pushing their whey supplements because they are more profitable. If you actually believe that taking soy protein grows titties and turns you into a woman then ya'll are dumber than Stuthers himself in believing everything those magazines say
The sponsors of studies that assert that soy lowers testosterone have EVERYTHING TO LOOSE - ie. profits - by recognizing that soy is a great, healthy source of protein. Meat and dairy are MORE PROFITABLE.
Men who have taken large amounts of soy for DECADES have gone for hormone level test and come out TOTALLY NORMAL.
Use your common sense - anything in excessive quantities is unhealthy - be it whey/soy/casein etc.
And don't believe every study you read. Ask questions.
what about women taking soy protein? I am a young woman who has recently started going to the gym and I'm considering using soy protein for my protein shakes. All the negativity I hear about soy protein seems to be aimed at men...so for women is it like the best protein ever??? Please Help. Thank You.
Hi, I am a woman. And I would not consume soy protein. I have personal experience with it's negative effects on my body. It can impact hormone levels in women and in men. And can also wreak havoc on your thyroid funcitioning.
Also, the majority of soy is genetically modified. Not healthy.
If you are wanting to lose weight and/or get in shape then stay away from soy.
What about Herbalife products? I've heard they are the best or something? I personally take whey, but interested in the Herbalife stuff... Got any advice about that? cheers
I'm sure taking a little soy isn't a problem, the bitch tits happens when you are taking a ton of that stuff.
KuyaC 3 days ago
omg...biggest lie ever...I bet you two recommend drinking protein with no aminoacids so I won't get the gout.. /faceplam
PacoMxxN 1 week ago
I can't see all comments so I don't know if this was already covered- You mention whey as being a soy product to avoid. Whey is a milk-processing byproduct. It's dairy protien.
INKTALOVR1 1 week ago
its very immature to think u will turn int a woman buy taking a known food, its scientificaly impossible, also soy has also shown reverse effects and no effects on testosterone levels and estrogen levels, i dont know why people are soo childish and immatue.. ''turn to a woman'' :P
ali1278 1 week ago
real men drink black tea
LeChatNoirDansLaNuit 1 week ago
if they said seamen was loaded with protein would you guys eat it?
TeenIronMan 1 week ago
Can you link these studies?
TheJorjj 1 week ago
On second thought, I can give my soy protein shake to my gf and she'd be sexier than ever!
crazystarf 2 weeks ago
Now we know how Gregory turned gorgeous lol.
crazystarf 2 weeks ago
I drank a soy protein shake before i went to bed
and when i woke up in the morning i had turned
into a women.lol
seth78546 2 weeks ago
sooo you don't take protein? i'm confused!
flawns 3 weeks ago
I've already consumed about 12 pounds of blended protein over the past months and I haven't experienced anything femaleish symptoms. In fact, my chest has even gotten more muscular and defined.
But hey, even if it does have that effect, think about it: if you stop taking steroids, your testosterone level will be lowe than original, right? So if you stop taking soy, your estrogen level will be lower than original. :D
Netherlag 3 weeks ago
The amount of protein we take daily makes soy very significant, especially if you're using a soy protein. If you are consistent with it, you will have bitch tits. But thats just me; you can go out there and do whatever the fuck you wanna do.
Itzxmaaz 3 weeks ago
its not casium
spunkTanker 1 month ago
maaaan!!ive been taken 20g soy protien bars for post workout.
luba313 1 month ago
what about soy beans? Tofu?? protein, good slow digesting carbs.? or dont eat it?
ganjagangja 1 month ago
what about hemp protein?
MrNomad62 1 month ago 3
i think you guys are jimmy struthers; beliving a simply dude that says some bullshit he dreamt the night before, keep it simply: have you tried it: did ur balls go smaller and did you get boobz? no, no way. test that shit before...
AsumDude94 1 month ago
do a following video where you explain which protein of whey etc that doesn't have soy
AsumDude94 1 month ago
okay pepz: SOY PROTEIN TASTES SO BAD THAT UR GONNA PUKE AND BE SICK FOR 5 STRAIGTH DAYS AFTER, so 90 % of proteins out there has 0 or low soy protein in it...
AsumDude94 1 month ago
Then which proteins i should take??In store there is only shits like whey and soy proteins :S
croatia337 1 month ago
i'm a vegetarian and i started working out with my friends at the same time and the truth is i'm as big as them so i'd say this is not worth listening to, but it's just advice right?
diwnohsaur 1 month ago 3
@diwnohsaur hey I heard a doctor show on tv where it says that the amount of estrogen in soy is absolutly insignificant and that their is absolutly no chance of getting boo*s or have any danger when taking it. Just saying!
justforfreegame 1 month ago 3
Yes Hemp and Sunwarrior Protien is the BOMB!!!
Visualize630 1 month ago
organic hemp protein the shiz?
jessenurse 1 month ago
what you shall only drink is:
water + green tea. Green tea is good for BB, it's great! and this comes from a dude who knows over 10 body builders who had green tea for years! and I use it myself... don't see the problem. Don't get scared of it. Whey exist in every protein powder, so don't worry about that shit.
TheEpicShitz 1 month ago
two shit heads with absolutely no knowledge of nutrition! pity on them!
salilacharya1 1 month ago
Anything containing BISPHENOL A is detrimental to testosterone production, and guess what? Its in a fuckload of shit folks
ChuffChowder 1 month ago
soy is in almost evry whey protien shake....
tdthor66 1 month ago 15
@tdthor66 maybe your protein, cheap mofo
LOTEKZZ 1 month ago
@tdthor66 No it's not you dumbass bitch.
chargoisk 4 days ago
hey Jimmy Struthers can eat that shit all day! So he can do whatever tha FUCK HE WANNA DO!
xDudeHimSelfx 1 month ago
so basically if you dont eat meat you become a pussy
killerbiller35 1 month ago
mmm green tea
PowerWagon21 1 month ago
bullshit
leijarobotti2000 1 month ago
lol
je187u 1 month ago
@1:29 lol STAYAWAYFITT
naturalguy710 2 months ago
Okay green tea is for women? You know what, I'll do whatever the fuck I wanna do. I'ma go in my kitchen, get that green tea bag and shove it up my cup real good, in my warm nice juicy cup and then drink it. It's just beneficial. But that's just me, you can do w/e the fuck you wanna do.
djeskolive 2 months ago 26
Whey for guys soy for ladies shit even sounds cute lol
BLAZE45 2 months ago
soy is for bitches anyway
cbrt2 2 months ago in playlist More videos from twinmuscleworkout
So If I eat soy I'll turn into Jennifer Aniston??
lmao
adu1991 2 months ago
Google it, this is so bollocks!
masterofpuppets2092 2 months ago
Hey twins, i am taking some multivitamins besides my protein shake. Its the AMP Strength Vitapak Program and it has 6 pills. It contains fish and soybeans, amplified creatine, tribulus terrestris and anabolic primer. Do i have to stop using this and just buy the regular creatine that you guys recommend on your site. Im confused after watching this video or this only applies to soy protein powder only?
RyuShinra9878 2 months ago
fuck soy
XTIRP8 2 months ago
That's fucked upp
lemonlimelukey 2 months ago
Soy does not turn you into a woman! All that research about estrogen was done on rats. When the same research was done on humans, results were all positive.
Jawaune 2 months ago
@Jawaune can you give a link or something?
Humanoids 2 months ago
you guys crack me up the way u talk lol the twin on the left always has to put his 2 cents in lmao u guys r funny keep em comin
xnikateenx 2 months ago
these guys are funny
d314j4 2 months ago
So drinkin green tea makes u a women... Lol wtf? Is that shit for real?
perucho28 3 months ago 2
@perucho28 No, they said "soy has health benefits...but I don't want to be a woman, if I wanted that (health benefits) I'd go drink some green tea".
ShaxAMV 1 month ago
These guys would be a lot more credible if they had some formal education
Avaricious123 3 months ago
i dont think its true, ive been using soy protein for a few months now and i dont feel different and nothing has changed. i think another study showed soy doesnt drop the testosterone leven at all or at least not that much to cause hormone levels to change. i put on about 6 kg in 2 months n my fat percentage stayed the samem, i only used soy protein.
MrCribbss 3 months ago
What if youre vegan??????
Nirvanaisamazing777 3 months ago
@Nirvanaisamazing777 then dont hit the gym
heckathornmike86 3 months ago
@Nirvanaisamazing777 Whey protein powder isnt meat though.
2cutthroatterrorist 3 months ago
@2cutthroatterrorist Yeah i know but it's made from a dairy product.
Nirvanaisamazing777 3 months ago
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Im a endomorph TRYN 2 LEAN. BREAKFAST is 3 packs of Quaker Oats oatmeal made witrh water not milk my SNACKS is usually a fiber one bar or green seedless grapes my LUNCH is a turkey breast sandwhich with guldens spicy mustard on Arnolds whole grain 12 grain bread my DINNER is A Chicken breast cutlet brolied with no skin with a dole romaine blend salad I try to eat 3hrs in bettween is that ok for a way for me to eat anyones help whould be great and I take ON 211 RECOVERY SHAKE AFTER A WORKOUT
NotGangster100 3 months ago
All soy grown in this country is genetically engineered/modified..........stay the hell away from that ( ) if your alive and breathing...period !!!
dumptech 3 months ago
this is odd strongman derek poundstone takes half whey half soy or something like that
xXJeReMiAhXx99 3 months ago
WHOA! this makes everything clearer.....fuck im gonna go ditch all the soy protein powder in da trash yeeuh
Aztr0thugga 3 months ago
Ok, well I'm a female and doing Judo. I want a healthier body and also to get even more toned. So are you saying Soy will make me have larger boobs? ;). In all seriousness, how does it affect a female body? I've heard estrogen production makes your body preserve more carbohydrates and therefore makes it harder to loose weight and release energy.
pricipedelnotte 3 months ago
The twins sort of have a point here as it talks about breast cancer survivors, but not men working out:
"Soybeans are rich in essential omega-3 fatty acids, but tend to be higher in total fat than other beans... Also, soy extracts, such as genistein, may not have the same beneficial effects as products made with the whole bean. In fact, it’s best for breast cancer survivors to avoid concentrated soy supplements and protein powders until further research is conducted."
cancerproject org
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
Here's something interesting about the "dangers" of soy overall:
"For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility. Research studies show that men consuming soy have less prostate cancer and better prostate cancer survival."
cancerproject org
However...
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
thanx 4 the warning mate il change my diet :)
TheMarlon1983 4 months ago
Seedofwinter = Jimmy Struthers
iResurgam 4 months ago
I've been taking soy protein for the longest, and my nuts and chest are just fine. The body uses the protein to build musclesand tissue like any other protein.
Unless you want a fucked up stomach, you better stay away from whey protein. Whey protein is one of the worse proteins folks could be taking.
NO evidence to say soy protein transforms you into a woman. LOL People are so guliable.
Seedofwinter 4 months ago
@Seedofwinter LMFAO you're telling people to stay away from whey protein and take soy protein?? WOWWWWW lol you just mad you're a woman
afterth0ughts 4 months ago
@afterth0ughts Why don't you take a biology class, child. All those so-called "studies" trying to dirty Soy protein are influenced by the Dairy lobby. Soy protein is a very good protein for you, it doesn't do ANY of the things these two fellas claimed. These two go on rumors, not fact. Do you know that protein companies actually PAY for people to say that?
Soy protein comes from a plant, whey protein comes from a cow's milk. Whey protein is unatural, while soy is natural.
Seedofwinter 4 months ago 2
@Seedofwinter so ur saying whey protein which comes from a freakin cow is UNNATURAL? LOL DAMN you are a woman you lack logic DUMBFUCK
afterth0ughts 4 months ago
@afterth0ughts It comes from a cow's milk. And yes, it's unnatural. Cow milk is specifically made for baby calves.
Why do you think people get all kinds of bad reactions when they drink milk? Why do you see lactose intolerance? Why do you see people with digestive problems and diarrhea from folks that ingest too much of it?
Soy does none of the things these two disinformation agents just said. A matter of fact, more UFC fighters are training using Soy than ever. .
Seedofwinter 4 months ago
@Seedofwinter OHHH WOWOWOWOW now you're saying milk is BAD??? i'm done with you woman you obviously prefer the cock
afterth0ughts 4 months ago
@afterth0ughts LOL Dude, where do you think Whey protein comes form? It's milk. That has been the crux of my point the entire time. Did you think Whey protein comes from a plant or something?
You just keep talking about cock and saying I'm a female, maybe you are insecure with your sexuality, kid. LOL
Look, my point was a simple one: this video is completely void of facts, and the two steroid injected twins don't know what they're talking about. Soy protein is better for you than whey. Just is
Seedofwinter 4 months ago
@Seedofwinter I FUCKING KNOW WHEY PROTEIN COMES FROM MILK, YOU PIECE OF SHIT. dont be made cuz your non existent dick is all shriveled up, mad phaggot. And you claiming that these 2 are on steroids shows how fuckin ignorant you are. You made that you're a skinny phag for life cause your mother fed you soy protein your whole life? HAHAHAHAH.
afterth0ughts 4 months ago
@afterth0ughts I used to be 200 pounds of muscle bro, but have since decided being that big was useless and wasted too much of my time. Much rather spend my time chasing tail, making money and Battlefield LOL
Look bro, I disagree with you, but by all means, live your life the way you wish. I'm not going to stop you. But when you are 60 years old shitting in your underwear, you will remember the conversation you had with Seedofwinter, and his ominous warning.
GL to you, brother.
Seedofwinter 4 months ago
@Seedofwinter LOL UR TRYNA TELL ME YOU WERE 200 POUNDS OF MUSCLE BY TAKIN SOY PROTEIN? HAHA TITS OR GTFO WOMAN.
afterth0ughts 4 months ago
@afterth0ughts, You're getting burned badly and to make it worse, you act like an insecure man. Now go think of the bestest insult you can "think" of.
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 lmfao shut the fuck up you old fart, do you even lift fag?
afterth0ughts 3 months ago
@afterth0ughts shut up you little faggot you know nothing about anything so go and grow your 1 inch dick!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@Seedofwinter i agree with u slightly as in i dont believe all this soy problems even if it had a shitload of estrogen and other hormones how would that even make it into ur blood stream lol u know how hard prohormone companies work to protect there prohormones from getting destroyed also strongman derek poundstone takes alot of soy protien as part of his diet
xXJeReMiAhXx99 3 months ago
@Seedofwinter, I don't take soy protein as a supplement, but I do consume soy drink with fortified vitamins and minerals (B12, D, Calcium, etc.). I've heard it so many times (mostly from unhealthy people) how soy makes a man more feminine, yet my pecs are relatively solid compared to the average man, and I'm also more athletic than the average man. I posted a quote from the Cancer Project org website about the "dangers" of soy. Not sure anyone wants to hear it.
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
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Niggers don't know shit
hayden50 4 months ago
somebody please answer! what type of protein should i take, because whey protein has soy, everything that everybody is recommending has soy in it. so what should i take that doesnt have any soy or soy by product in it?
Lovellyoungwolf 4 months ago
@Lovellyoungwolf take a whey isolate, they soy in whey is at its lowest in isolate
underpartv 4 months ago
@Lovellyoungwolf Low amounts of soy aren't going to do anything to you. They're talking about taking large amounts like in a soy protein isolate.
Joeyyowe 4 months ago
i dont believe this shit, unless it is a hormone, no food or supplement will shrivel up your dick and give you man boobs!
rainxxxx 4 months ago 7
@rainxxxx
It doesn't shrivel up your dick? He never meantioned that.
It does raise your estrogen levels, which will cause you to have excess fat around your pectoralis muscles, thus man boobs.
TheNewBlackster 4 months ago
@TheNewBlackster i do not believe it raises estrogen levels!
rainxxxx 4 months ago
@rainxxxx, It's more old wives tales than anything.
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
@rainxxxx isoflavone IS an hormone, it's also called phyto-oestrogen.
Lauxesa 2 months ago
@Lauxesa Isoflavones are a class of organic compounds, hmmm are you sure?
rainxxxx 2 months ago
@rainxxxx it's in soy for sure.
Lauxesa 2 months ago
@Lauxesa i very much doubt regulated consumables that you can buy over the counter would contain hormones in them
rainxxxx 2 months ago
@rainxxxx alright, looks like I confused isoflavones and phyto-oestrogens, but anyways, phyto-oestrogens are definitely in soy.
Lauxesa 2 months ago
@rainxxxx
it's true, look it up
boomguy12345 2 months ago
@boomguy12345 i have looked it up
rainxxxx 2 months ago
@rainxxxx In old ages, Japanese wives would give their husbands soy so that they wouldn't have sex with them. Soy oppresses the male organs
pekenosmokey 2 months ago
@pekenosmokey im not sure of it actions, beer does something similar though doesn't it?
but im saying there cant be estrogen in it as that is a hormone and it would not be allowed
rainxxxx 2 months ago
@rainxxxx No, there can't be estrogen or testosterone in most natural occurring foods, but some things could trigger certain hormone productions. For instance, Oysters do not carry testosterone but they do have copious amounts of zinc, which acts as a catalyst for male testosterone.
So in essence, soy does not carry estrogen (a female hormone), but it does have some properties that could evoke high amounts of estrogen in a man's body.
pekenosmokey 2 months ago
@pekenosmokey mabe, but most foods do that anyway, and some people have to drink soy milk as they are allergic to regular milk, but on the whole, those 2 clowns are talking shit again, they dont always but this time they are just like when they were talking about muscle milk!
rainxxxx 2 months ago
@rainxxxx LMFAO!! Right.
pekenosmokey 2 months ago
@rainxxxx show pics then
Zohaib1 2 months ago
@Zohaib1 of what, your mother?
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx u mad ?
Zohaib1 1 month ago
@Zohaib1 no but quite clearly you are listening to this soy nonsense!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx just google it. soy got phytoestrogens which increases the estrogen in both males and females.
Brickkks 1 month ago
@Brickkks there more to it than just googling it, you have to understand what it means, you will learn nothing like that!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx yes you will. if you search around the internet, watch youtube videos and studies you will find a lot of information that shows that soy got phytoestrogens. ITS A FACT.
Brickkks 1 month ago
@Brickkks doesnt mean there is hormones in it, im afraid you got your FACTS mixed up!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx Phytoestrogens has negative effects on the hormonal balance in men.
Brickkks 1 month ago
@Brickkks its all too insignificant though, stop reading rubbish!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx My conclusion would be that some soy is fine, but it will definately increase your estrogen levels if you eat a lot of it, but thats just my advice you dont have to follow it cuz at the end of the day you can do whatever the fuck you wanna do!
Brickkks 1 month ago
@Brickkks shut up you tosser!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx why are you defending soy?
Brickkks 1 month ago
@Brickkks im not, but everyone is blowing soy way out of proportion!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
Gay niggers
L1V3RPO0LFC 4 months ago
i was on SOY protein for a 30 days now wonder why i started feeling a little fruity my friends started looking all cute and S***T naa lmao
LiveReality19 4 months ago 24
@LiveReality19 no, you might be just gay!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx alright joke is over you killed it
LiveReality19 1 month ago
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crobravo 5 months ago
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crobravo 5 months ago
And you got that information from Dr. Who??
crobravo 5 months ago
@crobravo
Lol, you are really a dumbass. go google soy estrogen, and u will find some stuff.... jesus
nicolaisb2 4 months ago
@nicolaisb2 i think your the dumbass here son, you'll believe anything those twins tell you!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@crobravo lol!
rainxxxx 4 months ago
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crobravo 5 months ago
That is why we need HEMP! it is way better than Soy and has way more protein and it also has EVERY amino acid!! this includes all the meat proteins! plus the essential fatty acids help regulate your body as well.
HEMP SEED is the most beneficial seed known to man.
Hemptastic47 5 months ago
@Hemptastic47, Hemp is great, but I don't think that meat should get credit for protein when you can get all the protein you want from plants.
LloydChristmas777 3 months ago
You don't know what you're saying!!. I've been eating soy like 15 years ago and I am really muscular and lean, no boobs or stuff like that. What you're saying is shit!!. Make a serious search before opening your mouth.
jakos3 5 months ago
@jakos3 Hey man, its just advice man, you dont have to follow it,..... cause at the end of the day you can do what eva the FUCKKK you wanna do
gtocit 5 months ago
@gtocit shut up little boy!
rainxxxx 4 months ago
i use to mix the two with reg milk n penut butter now i say fuclk soy
chowmain27 5 months ago
i hear it makes u gay
chowmain27 5 months ago
I actually eat soya beans as there a complete protein. i think ud be fine with the beans theres sooo much protein in them, also the way the body would work with high levels of estrogen (if true) would be to increase testicle size to counter the hi estrogen with higher levels of testosterone. this is why wen you take steroids (testosterone) your balls shrink
michaelc5876 5 months ago
pfff this soy is less dangerous than chicken, that will make you a chick
YipManneke 6 months ago
This is true I was using soy beans and tofu because of the protein content and low fat and I was gettin a chub look on the chest til I stopped for good
goanyways 6 months ago
Greg Paul, Ph.D., director of health and nutrition for The Solae Company says:
"The results of this study show that soy protein is just as effective as whey protein in building lean muscle mass as part of a dedicated exercise and nutrition regimen, while contradicting the MYTH that soy protein may negatively impact testosterone levels in men.
RioUchiha 6 months ago
HEY I LOVE GREEN TEA!
itsKevin7 6 months ago
He says:"If you take any type of protein blend that has soy, casein, whey, I wouldn't take it".Now Jose, you just put up there altogether all the proteins Arnold Schwarzenegger took and same proteins body-builders around the world still use.(I don't see boobs on Arnold do you?Pecs maybe,boobs I see on Pamela)
Can I still call you Jose?Sure I can.U both look like some smart guys with medicine studies.Did you know that the isoflavones (ISOFLAVONES-fucking google it), are removed from powders?Jose?
wolfeyex 6 months ago
no top comment..my time to shine...AHEM Boobies.
iSlayedYouLol 6 months ago
@iSlayedYouLol you failed
BenjaminKuruga 6 months ago
you guys had recamended body fortus but it contains soy does he issolite
MrJuggalo1616 7 months ago
when i take 50% of the soy protein, do i get only one boob? :P
thefoxdude 7 months ago
Wow~so transsexuals don't need any hormone injections or surgery in order to have a boobs,,,,, Genius !!!
mightykuma 7 months ago
i dont wanna be a women : [
JaypoyJay 7 months ago
i've got man boobs,small testicles and a shrunk up lil dick and i dont take soy
juckelscorey 7 months ago 29
@juckelscorey maybe you take steroids ;)
vteckicksarse 4 months ago
@juckelscorey sorry about your issues assface , buy a gun and 1 bullit.
iamcyberpunk68 3 months ago
Guys from where you have that informations? Food can affect hormones in your body only when u got very very bad disease like hyperthyroidism etc. Soya is healthy protein, no worry. Its a nonsense what these guys talk on this video. "woman from protein" funny thing, looks like commercial repeating.peace
Julek1100 7 months ago
lol he wanted to say mushroom tips so bad at the beginning
DW1014 7 months ago
Green tea is gonna make me a woman?
Lets just ask Robert Cheeke if soy is gonna give me man boobs.
g9g9g9 7 months ago
They're wearing the same thing :D
3inureye 7 months ago
Whoa, clam down there Green Tea is great for boosting your metabolism and getting ripped faster. Unlike Soy, Green tea has no negative side effects.
RioUchiha 7 months ago
@RioUchiha idiot!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
@rainxxxx someone who has no clue should not say that!
rainxxxx 1 month ago
Wait, look, Mom, its those 2 pizza chefs Mario and Luigi!
mrdave777 7 months ago
Ya'll must have been hanging out with Jimmy Stuthers when you made this video! Why on earth would you believe in stupid shit study like that when you're the first ones here that preach against stupid supplement company propaganda which are only interested in pushing their whey supplements because they are more profitable. If you actually believe that taking soy protein grows titties and turns you into a woman then ya'll are dumber than Stuthers himself in believing everything those magazines say
melkam647 7 months ago 2
The sponsors of studies that assert that soy lowers testosterone have EVERYTHING TO LOOSE - ie. profits - by recognizing that soy is a great, healthy source of protein. Meat and dairy are MORE PROFITABLE.
Men who have taken large amounts of soy for DECADES have gone for hormone level test and come out TOTALLY NORMAL.
Use your common sense - anything in excessive quantities is unhealthy - be it whey/soy/casein etc.
And don't believe every study you read. Ask questions.
Senescence1 7 months ago
I can't thank you guys enough, you saved me from getting moobs lol! Thanks again guys!
JaMzMedia 7 months ago
Can soy protein make you gay to,;-)
lasernederland 7 months ago
green tea , soya foods, staple of asian diet. maybe thats why asians lack body hair and other testosterone related mechanism
hornybrownguy 8 months ago
Green tea is bad for muscle building?! I drink a lot of that stuff D:
MegaD00Mdaredevil 8 months ago
sounds like when youve just done a cycle of steroids with shutdown!
rainxxxx 8 months ago
what about women taking soy protein? I am a young woman who has recently started going to the gym and I'm considering using soy protein for my protein shakes. All the negativity I hear about soy protein seems to be aimed at men...so for women is it like the best protein ever??? Please Help. Thank You.
tarvisurkhel 8 months ago
@tarvisurkhel
Hi, I am a woman. And I would not consume soy protein. I have personal experience with it's negative effects on my body. It can impact hormone levels in women and in men. And can also wreak havoc on your thyroid funcitioning.
Also, the majority of soy is genetically modified. Not healthy.
If you are wanting to lose weight and/or get in shape then stay away from soy.
ExoticCalli 8 months ago
@ExoticCalli Will do. Thank you for the advice.
tarvisurkhel 8 months ago
@tarvisurkhel
You're welcome :)
ExoticCalli 8 months ago
Not True
giant1095 8 months ago
look up the Soy vs. Whey article on bodybuilding . com
giant1095 8 months ago
What about Herbalife products? I've heard they are the best or something? I personally take whey, but interested in the Herbalife stuff... Got any advice about that? cheers
patellaman 8 months ago
@patellaman herbalife stuff is full of soy protein..
chemo72 8 months ago