@alirahim1 We have generals and captains in our armed forces that never seen combat before they retired from the military and Canada as well, should they be stripped of their rank because of that? Or will their knowledge and understanding of war keep them a float, if not; then ‘West Point’ should be pointless…
@alirahim1 Because it takes many years to truly master and understand something like this (almost 20 years), you are one of a kind to do three systems that way; it is something I’ve never seen in my life time. Especially to do this without knowing wing chun terms and to admit that it is hard for you to explain it (your system) that’s very impressive
@alirahim1 I’ve did Sil Lum Tao for 8 years (principle and fundaments) in one system of wing chun and have done it for 32 years, I’ve didn’t have the pleasure of mastering 3 other systems to truly know which one is more complete, for it would have only confused me
@alirahim1 In most fighting system it takes almost 5-6 years just to master the fundamentals, anything below that is interiorly to fast, especially for wing chun and to do three systems that way, and to become a master level in each of them (to truly know the difference) is wonderful, how long have you been a master in these systems?
@alirahim1 Understanding foot work (basic) usually happens in chum kil; after sil lum tao (5 years of fundaments), advance foot work starts in wooden man up through and to the weapons forms, to truly know this in three different systems and have a master understanding to know the difference is amazing. To truly know the difference; you would have completed all 6 forms in three systems. That’s why I find it odd when you said this stuff is hard to explain.
@alirahim1 It’s seems that you would have mastered 18 different wing chun forms to truly know the difference on the foot work, to really honestly say one is better than the next. That is something I would never touch. “What is, and who is the best”, without complete understanding. of each system.
trust me it's not as complicated as you make it out to be, among the mainstream Yip Man lineages, the differences are quite minor and almost TOO trivial to mention, it's all Wing Chun, however with the Cheung lineage, the transitional period is a bit longer because the improved adjustments in that system are quite substantial, with that said if you yourself were too train in that system you'd learn it alot faster because your foundational base in Wing Chun has already been laid
I've been taught all the forms of Sil Lum Tao, Biu Jee and Chum Kiu, however knowing all those forms is not mastery(and I am NO master by any means) for me personally I feel that the mastery is in actual combat. In the Cheung Lineage I was taught all the hard stuff first; footwork, Chum Kiu, the other various forms etc and than I was taught the easier things.
In regards to my years of experience, I am 27 now, and have studied since I was 17, as far as I am concerned you've been practicing Wing Chun longer than I've been living, so please do not place me on a higher pedestal than you, I am really and modestly undeserving of such appraisal. Although my experience in Wing Chun is obviously alot more varied than yours, your experience is still surpasses mines in terms of depth and longevity.
Even though you may not necessarily be able to teach me anything in Wing Chun(which I highly doubt), if we knew each other personally I am pretty sure you would still probably would be able to teach me other things in terms of life itself.
@Metacool416 Yip Chun and his brother (the sons of Yip Man) admit that they were not in any street fights, but made fantastic practitioners in the wing chun system. And everyone recognized them as some the most informative masters in the system.
@alirahim1 I'm very sorry you never posted your age anywhere on the web, so I hadn’t any idea on how old you were. Far as fighting in combat to be a master is just not common in this day and age, you do that (combat) just to be a master in something; you will end up in prison
@alirahim1 I don’t understand, you said on another clip that If someone was to push me while I was in yee jee kim yang mah, that there is no way that I could hold that stance… I didn’t, but I had some student that did; who only trained with me for three years, if 99% of the Yip Man’s population of wing chun is not that hard or complicated, then why did you said that it was not possible to do (the stance)?
@alirahim1 I’m sorry dear brother but it’s so hard to follow you with all the contradiction –or – when you say something, but mean something else, it’s just hard to follow; which makes me believe you when you say the system is hard to explain.
yeah I understand your viewpoint, when I was practicing in the popular wing chun lineages(myself) and applied their footwork I realized that was one advantage, however the cons(for me) heavily outweighed the pros, putting majority of the weight on the back leg made me sluggish, slow, and was debilitating me in regards to mobility, being too sunken in impaired my movement, especially since taught to drag the feet, something which I realized after I started training in the lineage I am in now.
@Metacool416 Everything takes time to understand and master, it’s all about hard work, because it’ not how good you are, but how good you can be… And when something is hard to get, most uses deviation for self-gratification, always trying something new outside the box of what have been presented to them just to keep up, while throwing the idea clean out the window. And most of that; is the teacher’s or sifu fought.
@alirahim1 Yes I fully agree with you, nothing can ever be rushed when it comes to learning or developing a deeper understanding, whether it be in Wing Chun, Quantam Physics or even Sociology.
But for me it wasn't about deviating for self gratification because I wasn't diligent or didn't work hard enough in my training. Infact when I first started out my training in the Moyat lineage I thought it was the BEST martial art ever discovered and trained relentlessly in it and did the same in L.T
I am very technical and analytical minded, I am not confined to the vantage point of a particular view or set of reservations. So what happened for me(in my case) was that I came across 2 systems, I systematically broke down each and every aspect of both side by side and made unbiased scientific comparisons on technique, execution, bio-mechanics(in live application) and determined that one system was "logically" more sound and practical than the other and choose that one over the other.
Which is why I am in the current system I that I am in now. Speaking of comparison and analysis, I believe we were discussing the merits of footwork between our two systems. Here is a video making comparisons in that area between our two systems in actual application------> watch?v=G71f8X4mGfo
@Metacool416 KUNG FU In its original meaning, kung fu can refer to any skill. Gōngfu (功夫) is a compound of two words, combining 功 (gōng) meaning "achievement" or "merit", and 夫 (fū) which translates into "man", so that a literal rendering would be "human achievement". Its connotation is that of an accomplishment arrived at by great effort
oh yes I just wanted to say that this was a very good display and mastery of the Jee Yang Mah stance, its unfortunate though that this concentrated rooting cannot be applied in the dynamics of a live fight
@Metacool416 Well, it will be much easier to whole with bridge contact, because ones center of gravity -or- mass is not under attack, like the test was conducted. The only way one will lose the stance in a fight; after being mastered: One would have to lose their offensive and defensive fighting lines and get their elbow under control by their opponent (if you can control the elbow, you can control your opponents attack), then successfully get their center of gravity lost, in those three stages
@Metacool416 It will be terribly hard to get to someone center of gravity of center of mass before moving their arms and hands out of the way, especially if they move their feet defensively. Like in wrestling; you can’t body slam anyone until you get pass their defense (the spaw)
@Metacool416 ??????????????????????????????? I have clips of myself in fights; never breaking the stance and getting knock outs in tournaments. And you know that we don’t fight that way; it’s just a training stance, we usually fight with one foot up front and the other in back, like everyone else does while maintaining the stance. This makes the stance twice as strong.
@Metacool416 The only reason why I can see one losing their stance in a fight, if their wing chun is to top heavy and very tight or stiff, that will cut their center of gravity in half, keeping the feet from following the hands
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Metacool416 4 months ago
@alirahim1 I’m very curious, how many "real fights" or “combat” confrontations would it take for one to become a master?
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 We have generals and captains in our armed forces that never seen combat before they retired from the military and Canada as well, should they be stripped of their rank because of that? Or will their knowledge and understanding of war keep them a float, if not; then ‘West Point’ should be pointless…
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 Because it takes many years to truly master and understand something like this (almost 20 years), you are one of a kind to do three systems that way; it is something I’ve never seen in my life time. Especially to do this without knowing wing chun terms and to admit that it is hard for you to explain it (your system) that’s very impressive
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 I’ve did Sil Lum Tao for 8 years (principle and fundaments) in one system of wing chun and have done it for 32 years, I’ve didn’t have the pleasure of mastering 3 other systems to truly know which one is more complete, for it would have only confused me
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 In most fighting system it takes almost 5-6 years just to master the fundamentals, anything below that is interiorly to fast, especially for wing chun and to do three systems that way, and to become a master level in each of them (to truly know the difference) is wonderful, how long have you been a master in these systems?
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 Understanding foot work (basic) usually happens in chum kil; after sil lum tao (5 years of fundaments), advance foot work starts in wooden man up through and to the weapons forms, to truly know this in three different systems and have a master understanding to know the difference is amazing. To truly know the difference; you would have completed all 6 forms in three systems. That’s why I find it odd when you said this stuff is hard to explain.
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 It’s seems that you would have mastered 18 different wing chun forms to truly know the difference on the foot work, to really honestly say one is better than the next. That is something I would never touch. “What is, and who is the best”, without complete understanding. of each system.
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1
trust me it's not as complicated as you make it out to be, among the mainstream Yip Man lineages, the differences are quite minor and almost TOO trivial to mention, it's all Wing Chun, however with the Cheung lineage, the transitional period is a bit longer because the improved adjustments in that system are quite substantial, with that said if you yourself were too train in that system you'd learn it alot faster because your foundational base in Wing Chun has already been laid
Metacool416 4 months ago
I've been taught all the forms of Sil Lum Tao, Biu Jee and Chum Kiu, however knowing all those forms is not mastery(and I am NO master by any means) for me personally I feel that the mastery is in actual combat. In the Cheung Lineage I was taught all the hard stuff first; footwork, Chum Kiu, the other various forms etc and than I was taught the easier things.
Metacool416 4 months ago
In regards to my years of experience, I am 27 now, and have studied since I was 17, as far as I am concerned you've been practicing Wing Chun longer than I've been living, so please do not place me on a higher pedestal than you, I am really and modestly undeserving of such appraisal. Although my experience in Wing Chun is obviously alot more varied than yours, your experience is still surpasses mines in terms of depth and longevity.
Metacool416 4 months ago
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Even though you may not necessarily be able to teach me anything in Wing Chun(which I highly doubt), if we knew each other personally I am pretty sure you would still probably would be able to teach me other things in terms of life itself.
Metacool416 4 months ago
@Metacool416 Yip Chun and his brother (the sons of Yip Man) admit that they were not in any street fights, but made fantastic practitioners in the wing chun system. And everyone recognized them as some the most informative masters in the system.
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 I'm very sorry you never posted your age anywhere on the web, so I hadn’t any idea on how old you were. Far as fighting in combat to be a master is just not common in this day and age, you do that (combat) just to be a master in something; you will end up in prison
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 I don’t understand, you said on another clip that If someone was to push me while I was in yee jee kim yang mah, that there is no way that I could hold that stance… I didn’t, but I had some student that did; who only trained with me for three years, if 99% of the Yip Man’s population of wing chun is not that hard or complicated, then why did you said that it was not possible to do (the stance)?
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 I’m sorry dear brother but it’s so hard to follow you with all the contradiction –or – when you say something, but mean something else, it’s just hard to follow; which makes me believe you when you say the system is hard to explain.
alirahim1 4 months ago
yeah I understand your viewpoint, when I was practicing in the popular wing chun lineages(myself) and applied their footwork I realized that was one advantage, however the cons(for me) heavily outweighed the pros, putting majority of the weight on the back leg made me sluggish, slow, and was debilitating me in regards to mobility, being too sunken in impaired my movement, especially since taught to drag the feet, something which I realized after I started training in the lineage I am in now.
Metacool416 4 months ago
@Metacool416 Everything takes time to understand and master, it’s all about hard work, because it’ not how good you are, but how good you can be… And when something is hard to get, most uses deviation for self-gratification, always trying something new outside the box of what have been presented to them just to keep up, while throwing the idea clean out the window. And most of that; is the teacher’s or sifu fought.
alirahim1 4 months ago
@alirahim1 Yes I fully agree with you, nothing can ever be rushed when it comes to learning or developing a deeper understanding, whether it be in Wing Chun, Quantam Physics or even Sociology.
But for me it wasn't about deviating for self gratification because I wasn't diligent or didn't work hard enough in my training. Infact when I first started out my training in the Moyat lineage I thought it was the BEST martial art ever discovered and trained relentlessly in it and did the same in L.T
Metacool416 4 months ago
I am very technical and analytical minded, I am not confined to the vantage point of a particular view or set of reservations. So what happened for me(in my case) was that I came across 2 systems, I systematically broke down each and every aspect of both side by side and made unbiased scientific comparisons on technique, execution, bio-mechanics(in live application) and determined that one system was "logically" more sound and practical than the other and choose that one over the other.
Metacool416 4 months ago
Which is why I am in the current system I that I am in now. Speaking of comparison and analysis, I believe we were discussing the merits of footwork between our two systems. Here is a video making comparisons in that area between our two systems in actual application------> watch?v=G71f8X4mGfo
Metacool416 4 months ago
@Metacool416 KUNG FU In its original meaning, kung fu can refer to any skill. Gōngfu (功夫) is a compound of two words, combining 功 (gōng) meaning "achievement" or "merit", and 夫 (fū) which translates into "man", so that a literal rendering would be "human achievement". Its connotation is that of an accomplishment arrived at by great effort
alirahim1 4 months ago
oh yes I just wanted to say that this was a very good display and mastery of the Jee Yang Mah stance, its unfortunate though that this concentrated rooting cannot be applied in the dynamics of a live fight
Metacool416 4 months ago
@Metacool416 Well, it will be much easier to whole with bridge contact, because ones center of gravity -or- mass is not under attack, like the test was conducted. The only way one will lose the stance in a fight; after being mastered: One would have to lose their offensive and defensive fighting lines and get their elbow under control by their opponent (if you can control the elbow, you can control your opponents attack), then successfully get their center of gravity lost, in those three stages
alirahim1 4 months ago
@Metacool416 It will be terribly hard to get to someone center of gravity of center of mass before moving their arms and hands out of the way, especially if they move their feet defensively. Like in wrestling; you can’t body slam anyone until you get pass their defense (the spaw)
alirahim1 4 months ago
@Metacool416 ??????????????????????????????? I have clips of myself in fights; never breaking the stance and getting knock outs in tournaments. And you know that we don’t fight that way; it’s just a training stance, we usually fight with one foot up front and the other in back, like everyone else does while maintaining the stance. This makes the stance twice as strong.
alirahim1 4 months ago
@Metacool416 The only reason why I can see one losing their stance in a fight, if their wing chun is to top heavy and very tight or stiff, that will cut their center of gravity in half, keeping the feet from following the hands
alirahim1 4 months ago
nice vid
KampfkunstAndre 4 months ago