Per i non anglofoni sarebbe utile una sottotitolatura per comprendere la coversazione di questi due gradissimi artisti : "the big" Luciano e la preziosa Joan da poco volata nel regno dei Più.
Ci sarà qualche poliglotta che vorrà divertrisi a tradurre questi dialoghi ? Ho inviidiato tanto il nostro "maestro" nella spedita comunicazione in lingua d'Albione !
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!!
I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
Good mezza voces or whatever the correct term may be... maybe its crescendo-sostenuto-decrescendo...but whatever: I know how hard it is! What is difficult and takes trainning is to sustain the pitch. I never had a wavery voice but that may also be a problem for some. Now I have a very good mezza voce but that doesn't mean one should ever stop trainning! Ah, if all singers could do what Horne did here...
@evifnoskcaj with out a pitch to reference (like accompaniment) most vocalist will waver in pitch a little. Especially when doing a sustained change in dynamic that drastic.
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
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I've commented on this a while ago. The only thing that Bonynge says that I agree with is at the end when he says '.. when the human voice is working perfectly .. doesn't happen too often'. For the three singers above, it never happened. They miss the point completely. Bel Canto is the complete opposite of what these singers ever did. Why? These singers sang from tone - from the sound of their voice. Singing is not about the voice and its sound - it is about how you use it. Nature is the key.
actually they studied in order to produce the MOST beautiful tone they could, and with that tone were able to sing the music MORE beautifully than the average joe. its the difference between street ball and professional ball, or a wagon and a car. people would rather hear what sounds better because it IS better. not to mention people do not naturally sing the majority of bel canto music much less beautifully. you have your opinion, but its wierd.also no tenor ever sang as beautifully as Pav imo.
In singing, true vocal beauty is a by product of knowledge. So, if you have the right knowledge and if you are able to implement it fully the moment you go to sing, your own unique voice with it's true beauty will be revealed. If you are of the correct mindset, beautiful tone will be a result of what you do. The singers featured all had great instruments, but they went down one of the many false paths in singing, thus 'creating' their singing voice and hiding their true vocal beauty.
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
because he took so long to free his voice and training it to make the correct supported sounds and it takes YEARS of muscle training. with your way, one might have beautiful tone on a few notes, but trained like pav you could have beautiful tone on every note in your range. so whats better? i think the latter because it enables you to sing more music. also, you are correct in a MUSICAL sense but not a VOCAL sense. one needs to have knowledge of the song he is singing to sing it beatifully, true.
I respect your opinion. But to reply: A song is not built on tone or notes, it is built on words. It is a story. Notes play a part but only in terms of music. Caruso started out his career singing from tone and he had lots of problems. But he eventually got to the truth (from his wife), that all songs are based upon the spoken word, pronounced exactly as spoken within the realms of nature. People will always be drawn to a singer who puts words and their meaning before how they sound in a song.
It is true that portraying the meaning of the music is incredibly important. I will add that without good technique to back up the singer's sensitivity to the meaning of the piece they will have a hard time really communicating what the composer intended. Tensions in the vocal mechanism will inhibit the singer from shaping the piece in the way he or she envisions it. For myself, discovering the world of real technique has been soo exciting and it's only beginning!
@bigus It's 2 months already but I have to agree with you. Although Pavarotti's operatic career might not have been as impressive as some other tenors, he was and is the only one whom I've heard who understood and could project his voice OUTWARD completely without sounding restrained. As for sopranos, no one but Joanie could do the same thing.
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
when richard bonynge conducted "mignon" in vancouver, b.c., 10 of the singers (out of 11) studied with michael trimble. the only one who didn't got the only bad review. i know it for a fact. i was there!
i had "mother"??? what is "mother"? HER mother? she refers to her mother as if it was an object "hey richard pass me the mother" "no thank you, i don't want mother today"
the English and the Australians don't use personal participals like we do in american English. So instead of saying "I went to MY mothers" they say I am going to Mother house. Or" I'm going to Hospital"
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean.
btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol!
thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
when horne did the crescendo and decrescendo at around 6:03, there was just something about the sound so subtle and simple, yet incredibly eligent....such a voice
Marchesi? Surely not Marchesino, the castrato? He was late 18th century, early 19th century. If so, that must've been an old pupil. Emma Calvé took a lesson or two from Domenico Mustafa the last of the truly great male soprani.
Mathilda Marchesi was a pupil of Manuel Garcia (the son) and taught among others Nellie Melba, thus the Australian connection. The book of her 'method' and exercises was a standard in Australian singing circles of mid 20th century, and Dame Joan's mother would have been refering to that.
Okay they are all right, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE THEY SITTING in each others laps!
What is SLS?? Its a method brought by Seth Riggs. A lot of debates on it being the right wrong approach. I personally think you can not sing with full voice. It turns your falestto into a stronger falsetto and he calls it the mix.
I was wondering about the seating as well. Pav's sitting with his back to Horne, rather rudely elbowing her out of his conversation, and advancing on Sutherland in a proprietary way, it looks to me, considering her husband is sitting right there. Perhaps they all started out facing the camera and ended up turned to face Boyning to address him? Or are just full of drink and propping one another up?
wat are u talkin about, he shows the distinct difference between the falsetto and head. He says himself he bases all his training on the bel canto technique the true way of allowing the natural voice through
Penso che questo video sia un'autentica lezione di canto, impartita da 4 artisti di inarrivabile livello. Tutti coloro che studiano canto lirico dovrebbero imprimersi nella mente ogni singolo passaggio di quel che dicono, di quello che cantano e, soprattutto, di come lo cantano.
Please note that mezza voce, which is Italian for half voice), means to sing at half strength. Messa di voce, on the other hand, means placing the voice, which is a musical technique involving a gradual crescendo and decrescendo while sustaining a single pitch.
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
my word i don't sing but it's so great to listen to such greats talk about it. if i could be tought by them i might end up with a voice after all. i can listen to them the whole day talk and sing... did i tell you their my favourites:)
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
Thank you for posting this! It gives one a greater appreciation of the singers, the art of singing and the beauty of the voice. Pavarotti's birdcalls were amazing. Thanks again!
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
Three of the greatest singers of all human history describing their business. These people knew how to sing. They really knew what singing is all about. How generous of them to have agreed to be filmed like that. GREAT VIDEO.
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
SINGERS OF THE WORLD. . .look at the size of the mouth opening in Horne's singing. . . VERY small, yet her sound is full and focused, no jaw tension, just breath ! Singing is so much easier if we JUST SHUT OUR MOUTHS. . .a little. <big grin> Let the breath do the work and the focus! BRAVA Marilyn !
Thanks. In 30 years, I have done it the wrong way (mouth wide open, voice supported by tongue and jaw muscles and devoid of breath flow) and the right way (like a "hum" with a opening no larger than necessary). In the latter, the voice on its own and naturally, will "find" the breath and support. Singing is nothing more than "sustained speaking", to a melody. A good singer will feel no more tension when he sings than when he speaks. Anything else is "manufactured" and wrong. Oops, sorry.
What a wonderful clip, hearing some of the greats showing and talking about vocal techniques! I need to find Part 1.
operagirl81 2 weeks ago
Nice trills! Especially Pavarotti. :o)
operagirl81 2 weeks ago
iam the world best singer ha ha
baselinez 2 months ago
Found some great singing tips, so I wanted to share with you, since it works for me bestsingingtechnique.webs.com
kapalutas 5 months ago
Does anyone know what aria sutherland is singing near the end of the video, for the fioritura example?
Tomeres 8 months ago
@Tomeres It´s from "La Sonnambula", Sovra il sen la man mi posa , Act I, I recommend you Sutherland´s 1962 recording, doesn´t get better than that...
SueAnnNivens 8 months ago
Could somebody tell me: when was this transmited an where?
Is there more than this two clips?
Is it possible to get the hole video somewhere?
Thanks
enricodicapri 11 months ago
Thanks for uploading. Love it.
SandrineSoprano 11 months ago
This has probably already been asked, but what does Marilyn sing @2:11??
Thanks!
osbornd89 11 months ago
@osbornd89 "Per lui che adoro" Act II, Scene 2 from L'Italiana in Algeri. I have the complete aria sung by Horne, in my channel!
SueAnnNivens 11 months ago
Just terrific to see these wonderful performers chilling out and talking about what they love. Inspiring. Thank you so much for posting!
richardhanna0 11 months ago
Thank you for posting these! :)
b00i00d 11 months ago
this is so wonderful, here you have a casual friends talk, but htis friends are some of the greatest exponents of lyrics
r7diego 1 year ago
I love Joan's "I don't remember" (sonnambula) then "oh yea" and then she throws it out...BRAVA~!
magicmonkichi 1 year ago
O.O Pavarotti has one hell of a whistle!
31operafan 1 year ago
"Now Luciano.... that's another thing..." Wonderful!
hips321 1 year ago 2
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Per i non anglofoni sarebbe utile una sottotitolatura per comprendere la coversazione di questi due gradissimi artisti : "the big" Luciano e la preziosa Joan da poco volata nel regno dei Più.
Ci sarà qualche poliglotta che vorrà divertrisi a tradurre questi dialoghi ? Ho inviidiato tanto il nostro "maestro" nella spedita comunicazione in lingua d'Albione !
ndilanda 1 year ago
La traduzione potrebbe essere digitata in più commenti. Thanks.
ndilanda 1 year ago
Dame Joan Sutherland! Brava!
kakurangers1993 1 year ago
This is so educational. It's awesome watching masters of a craft discussing the mechanics behind the craft.
AdIgnorantiam 1 year ago 3
Wow! A room full of LEGENDS!
chrisscruzzz 1 year ago 7
Rest in peace Joan!
core9204 1 year ago 2
so gorgeous, wow.
faithm 1 year ago
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!!
I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
tenorschofield 1 year ago
Pavarotti may be the biggest character of all time hahaha. Bonynge seemed like a really down to earth guy.
Wallyjr1741 1 year ago
Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
brunosilvershadow 1 year ago
Oh my goodness- the whistle at 4:40
mpmcd81 1 year ago 2
@mpmcd81 and Joan's laughter soon afterwards!!!!
thomastmwc 1 year ago
Wow, Pavarotti could really whistle!! Amazing!! I never knew this!
WhistlersBrother 1 year ago 2
Pavarotti's whistle is so beautiful!!!
NatiDeNut 1 year ago
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I'm going tomake Pavarotti's trill-whistle my ringtone
madsketcher 1 year ago
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madsketcher 1 year ago
GRandes Maestros !!!
Calaf120 1 year ago
Pavarotti's whistle was astounding! (and i thought i could whistle - well, clearly, i thought wrong!!)
incandescentsmile 1 year ago
I'm as impressed by Pavarotti's whistle trill as I am by his sicging voice.
24yotenor 1 year ago 2
Great whistle @ 4:28!
Jackaferdelabor 1 year ago 2
Good mezza voces or whatever the correct term may be... maybe its crescendo-sostenuto-decrescendo...but whatever: I know how hard it is! What is difficult and takes trainning is to sustain the pitch. I never had a wavery voice but that may also be a problem for some. Now I have a very good mezza voce but that doesn't mean one should ever stop trainning! Ah, if all singers could do what Horne did here...
AOG93 1 year ago
Ugh...their decrescendos made their pitches fall flat.
evifnoskcaj 1 year ago
@evifnoskcaj with out a pitch to reference (like accompaniment) most vocalist will waver in pitch a little. Especially when doing a sustained change in dynamic that drastic.
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Can someone please tell me what the aria Marilyn is singing at 2:50 is?
I would love to hear this in full.
airnewzealandsharpei 1 year ago
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sirasy 1 year ago
why doesnt pavarotti sing any example???
sirasy 1 year ago
@sirasy right???!?
fmabdo 1 year ago
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
AmhranaiAlainn 1 year ago
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
AmhranaiAlainn 1 year ago
This video has so helpful! You should enter your video in this contest, Ewisdomtv
susanbunch1980 1 year ago
They make it seems so easy
dehfacco 1 year ago
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I've commented on this a while ago. The only thing that Bonynge says that I agree with is at the end when he says '.. when the human voice is working perfectly .. doesn't happen too often'. For the three singers above, it never happened. They miss the point completely. Bel Canto is the complete opposite of what these singers ever did. Why? These singers sang from tone - from the sound of their voice. Singing is not about the voice and its sound - it is about how you use it. Nature is the key.
AmhranaiAlainn 1 year ago
Yeah if ever you are sober enough.
madisonelectronic 1 year ago
actually they studied in order to produce the MOST beautiful tone they could, and with that tone were able to sing the music MORE beautifully than the average joe. its the difference between street ball and professional ball, or a wagon and a car. people would rather hear what sounds better because it IS better. not to mention people do not naturally sing the majority of bel canto music much less beautifully. you have your opinion, but its wierd.also no tenor ever sang as beautifully as Pav imo.
bigus 1 year ago
In singing, true vocal beauty is a by product of knowledge. So, if you have the right knowledge and if you are able to implement it fully the moment you go to sing, your own unique voice with it's true beauty will be revealed. If you are of the correct mindset, beautiful tone will be a result of what you do. The singers featured all had great instruments, but they went down one of the many false paths in singing, thus 'creating' their singing voice and hiding their true vocal beauty.
AmhranaiAlainn 1 year ago
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
bigus 1 year ago
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
bigus 1 year ago
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
bigus 1 year ago
because he took so long to free his voice and training it to make the correct supported sounds and it takes YEARS of muscle training. with your way, one might have beautiful tone on a few notes, but trained like pav you could have beautiful tone on every note in your range. so whats better? i think the latter because it enables you to sing more music. also, you are correct in a MUSICAL sense but not a VOCAL sense. one needs to have knowledge of the song he is singing to sing it beatifully, true.
bigus 1 year ago
I respect your opinion. But to reply: A song is not built on tone or notes, it is built on words. It is a story. Notes play a part but only in terms of music. Caruso started out his career singing from tone and he had lots of problems. But he eventually got to the truth (from his wife), that all songs are based upon the spoken word, pronounced exactly as spoken within the realms of nature. People will always be drawn to a singer who puts words and their meaning before how they sound in a song.
AmhranaiAlainn 1 year ago
It is true that portraying the meaning of the music is incredibly important. I will add that without good technique to back up the singer's sensitivity to the meaning of the piece they will have a hard time really communicating what the composer intended. Tensions in the vocal mechanism will inhibit the singer from shaping the piece in the way he or she envisions it. For myself, discovering the world of real technique has been soo exciting and it's only beginning!
Wishsong83 1 year ago
@bigus It's 2 months already but I have to agree with you. Although Pavarotti's operatic career might not have been as impressive as some other tenors, he was and is the only one whom I've heard who understood and could project his voice OUTWARD completely without sounding restrained. As for sopranos, no one but Joanie could do the same thing.
kngiht84 1 year ago
wooow they are amaizing!!! there will never be one like them, ever again!!! bravo!!!!
BelCantoFan2 1 year ago
my god... 6:04-6:14... who can do that anymore?
PTCello 1 year ago
I want more more more!!!!
Englishtenor2 2 years ago 5
I do not stend anything on that video. But the beautifull sing, just make my day
diazconias 2 years ago
I never had to learn how to trill. the hardest thing for me has been learning to sing softly.
raigekimaru 2 years ago
Joan is insane.. her trills...to die for!
Pavarotti's whistle sounds just like Yma Sumac's trill
eradesso 2 years ago 3
is this it???is there any more....i want to watch it all!!!!!!!!
webbersarahlover 2 years ago 2
do they have more of these? i wanna watch more of them. so fun to watch them argue too!
ereccay2k22 2 years ago 2
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
katstrut 2 years ago
when richard bonynge conducted "mignon" in vancouver, b.c., 10 of the singers (out of 11) studied with michael trimble. the only one who didn't got the only bad review. i know it for a fact. i was there!
musedirec 2 years ago
this never get's old! I love this video. there voices are so magical. I think i will go to Hospital now! hahahah and See mother!
dynamicstuff73 2 years ago
lol! i didn't know that! it sounds weird but amusing that is how i'm going to refer to mother from now on "mother this, mother that" and such
SiEtIn1 2 years ago
i had "mother"??? what is "mother"? HER mother? she refers to her mother as if it was an object "hey richard pass me the mother" "no thank you, i don't want mother today"
SiEtIn1 2 years ago
the English and the Australians don't use personal participals like we do in american English. So instead of saying "I went to MY mothers" they say I am going to Mother house. Or" I'm going to Hospital"
So yes she is referering to her mother.
dynamicstuff73 2 years ago 3
I see what you mean, she just did not express her self as she expected. But I see what you mean, we all have a "mother" even if we do not know her.
tena2 2 years ago
Vedendo questo video mi viene da fare un riflessione: quale grande perdita il mondo della musica ha avuto con la morte del BIG!!!
MrMusicOpera 2 years ago
it's funny the way Marilyn Horne looks around seductively when she sings.
raigekimaru 2 years ago 4
4:22-4:36 what a B.A. that awesome
Neonblade1 2 years ago
Hahahaha, at 5:32 Horne starts speaking in Italian without realising it. :)
lalagonegaga 2 years ago 2
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean.
btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol!
thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
puccinislarondine 2 years ago 2
ace
BGSourgas 2 years ago
Wonderful 'lesson' from the experts
tonyvillecco 2 years ago 2
Very interesting! A great insight....
declan332 2 years ago
bellissimo e divertente!
mezzodopera 2 years ago
"Who's got a chest voice at five years of age?"
"Who's got a chest at five years of age?"
"Now, that's another thing..."
lol
irregularverb37 2 years ago 37
Is that what Poveratti said? LOL
shanttamazian 2 years ago
@irregularverb37 lmfao!
ParadiseofTruth 1 year ago
Wow, Sutherland's attempt at the diminuendo was a bit of a disaster.
Mooorhe 2 years ago 7
Thank you very much for uploading this! I am currently a studying Tenor student and I have found this very helpful.
mdgaultney 2 years ago
the trills at 4:20
tenor220 2 years ago
Trills...brilliant...and at 4:20...even better ^^
magicmonkichi 2 years ago
This is so wonderful. My teacher gives me these exercizes too, and great to see them being done so well. Something to aspire to!
Lamirroirmagique 3 years ago
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength.
But that whistle is just incredible!
ILoveTobin 3 years ago
he didn't confuse anything, he explained what he meant and why he said what he did.
tenor220 2 years ago
is this on dvd?
Venchiko 3 years ago
Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Not only very useful for singers, but also very funny, especially when Luciano whistles. LOL!
tantricsurfer 3 years ago
Priceless!
Thank you!
tneprescintr 3 years ago
Ha ha that's cute how Horne hugs Luciano when she sings :P
ShawDAMAN 3 years ago 3
god damn that whistle never ceases to amaze me
LordMoe9 3 years ago 42
I love it when Luciano does his whistling! That is awesome!!! He sounds just like a birdie.
jadedkiwi23 3 years ago 4
I wish I were young!! I'd love to start my life over with this knowledge!
876234ABC 3 years ago 4
'I learnt from the birds!' maravilloso.
zevasthian 3 years ago 2
she calls that bad singing
pungadoo 3 years ago
What amazing footage! Thank you for sharing this! Oh to be in the room with these people!
missmia1 3 years ago 5
Loved it! Inspiring!
jamesliketheking 3 years ago
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shure that this is Pavarotti?!
DarthHito 3 years ago
sorry??? Why?
zafireh 3 years ago
when horne did the crescendo and decrescendo at around 6:03, there was just something about the sound so subtle and simple, yet incredibly eligent....such a voice
tenor220 3 years ago 2
Eso no es messa di voce, sino mezza voce y a parte lo que hace la soprano es un filado, pero no un messa di voce
Lo que decía Pavarotti es lo correcto.
coralrabida 3 years ago
Marchesi? Surely not Marchesino, the castrato? He was late 18th century, early 19th century. If so, that must've been an old pupil. Emma Calvé took a lesson or two from Domenico Mustafa the last of the truly great male soprani.
philomelodia 3 years ago
Mathilda Marchesi was a pupil of Manuel Garcia (the son) and taught among others Nellie Melba, thus the Australian connection. The book of her 'method' and exercises was a standard in Australian singing circles of mid 20th century, and Dame Joan's mother would have been refering to that.
EmanueleConigliano 3 years ago
Horne's sound at 6:16 is stunning. Thanks for these great clips - what a treat!
5isgrace 3 years ago 2
Okay they are all right, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE THEY SITTING in each others laps!
What is SLS?? Its a method brought by Seth Riggs. A lot of debates on it being the right wrong approach. I personally think you can not sing with full voice. It turns your falestto into a stronger falsetto and he calls it the mix.
losangelesstrippers 3 years ago
I was wondering about the seating as well. Pav's sitting with his back to Horne, rather rudely elbowing her out of his conversation, and advancing on Sutherland in a proprietary way, it looks to me, considering her husband is sitting right there. Perhaps they all started out facing the camera and ended up turned to face Boyning to address him? Or are just full of drink and propping one another up?
jenni4claire 3 years ago
I think they are just leaning on the piano, that's all.
agnellodei 3 years ago
You are probably right, but they do look a bit like they are all playing bus, and Boynge is the driver.
jenni4claire 3 years ago
wat are u talkin about, he shows the distinct difference between the falsetto and head. He says himself he bases all his training on the bel canto technique the true way of allowing the natural voice through
quiet1234 3 years ago
@losangelesstrippers I think it's because they actually like each other and respect each other.
A relaxed get-together by people who are just being themselves, it appears, doing what they love around the piano...
Nice to see.
schoolamahaja 1 year ago
Does anyone knows what's the difference between fioritura and coloratura?
leoperarm 3 years ago
These are two kinds of interpretation. Floritura is the way to arpeggiate and coloratura have to do with the entonation of the singing.
subway03 3 years ago
这个女中音有严重的舌根音!!!!!!垃圾!
BeniaminoGigli 3 years ago
Penso che questo video sia un'autentica lezione di canto, impartita da 4 artisti di inarrivabile livello. Tutti coloro che studiano canto lirico dovrebbero imprimersi nella mente ogni singolo passaggio di quel che dicono, di quello che cantano e, soprattutto, di come lo cantano.
dessayfan 3 years ago
Depends on the singer's talent. Some take it longer than other, some never succeed. lol
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
Please note that mezza voce, which is Italian for half voice), means to sing at half strength. Messa di voce, on the other hand, means placing the voice, which is a musical technique involving a gradual crescendo and decrescendo while sustaining a single pitch.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
both mezza voce and messa di voce are quite difficult to master
MusicDude86 3 years ago
What a wonderful 2 video's - So astonishing to see and hear these 3 extraordinary people discussing their actual technique. Thank you for posting xx
petermeikle 3 years ago 4
From 4:26 to 4:34 was one of the most impressive things I ever saw in my life, Pavarotti is eterno!
marcoshbrj 3 years ago 2
Great! very very interesting. Thanks for sharing it!
TremblingTones 3 years ago
I'm a SLS singer and could watch all those videos constantly! It's epic!
PauliusBa 3 years ago
what is SLS singer?
hansquad 3 years ago
At 3:50 does he say Jenny Lin? Does anyone know the title of the book and if my spelling is correct? I want to look it up. Thanks
miwipaz 3 years ago
It's Jenny Lind. She was a Swedish soprano who came to America with P.T. Barnum.
cbreannawalker 3 years ago
Thanks you so much, I want to see if I can get the book.:)
miwipaz 3 years ago
Jenny Lind. The Swedish Nightingale. Sang in the 1840s.
rrgallo 3 years ago
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
pappy141 4 years ago 2
my word i don't sing but it's so great to listen to such greats talk about it. if i could be tought by them i might end up with a voice after all. i can listen to them the whole day talk and sing... did i tell you their my favourites:)
tebza84 4 years ago
What a wonderful posting -- I learned so much! Thank you!!
mermodfreres 4 years ago 2
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
hansquad 4 years ago
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
jenni4claire 4 years ago
this is actually the same trill! you're right!
Jabe88 4 years ago
The wee birds in Modena in the 30's and 40's must have been better educated than the birds in Ireland. Ours don't even trill 'Happy Birthday'.
jenni4claire 4 years ago
it's written "messa di voce", not "mezza di voce". "mettere su" means "appoint".
TrovadorManrique 4 years ago
OMG! this is exciting! even since i got hooked on opera, these 3 have showed what bel canto is all about....BRAVI!
thanks much for posting this.
YVRopera 4 years ago
So interesting! Thanks for positng.
bmcneese45a 4 years ago
Absolutely brilliant!. 5 stars and favourite.
maureenderry 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this! It gives one a greater appreciation of the singers, the art of singing and the beauty of the voice. Pavarotti's birdcalls were amazing. Thanks again!
Marcelisa 4 years ago
sutherlands trill is the best ever.!
midlochblidloch 4 years ago
Best singers. Just amazing. What control, what beauty, what perfection. Bravo!
fastfh 4 years ago
Great contibution!!
jpedrocp 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this!!!!My God, they
really can sing!!! They cover, they don't open
their mouth too much, they have perfect passagios. They all have big breast voices and
make them small on their higher tones. That's
classic!! There are no German shouters and
NATURAL WOBBLERS, no Dieskau-Kollo-"singing"
with guttural voices and bad technique.
8032gesang 4 years ago 2
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
powerinpraise2000 4 years ago
Three of the greatest singers of all human history describing their business. These people knew how to sing. They really knew what singing is all about. How generous of them to have agreed to be filmed like that. GREAT VIDEO.
radicalclassic 4 years ago 3
Thanks for posting this. Aside from the musical aspect is a great insight on how all 3 of them interact. Miss you Luciano..
ChuckNYC71 4 years ago 2
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
Janibeva 4 years ago 2
Gone, but always with us, Luciano is an angel here. The whistling is unbelievable. He must have had fans among the birds also.
chrissy1095 4 years ago 3
Three GIANT singers!!! Thank you for this great video, great lesson and great archive! It's so great!
TheRominaShow 4 years ago
thank you very much, I totally love & enjoyed this video.
I love Pavarotti so much
and I miss him so mcuh also:(
JustinL333 4 years ago 2
I agree, Agorante, he can really whistle! I found it funny that he whistles part of Sutherland's Lucia mad scene cadenza.
Gobbi2007 4 years ago
Boy can Pavarotti whistle!
Agorante 4 years ago 2
Thanks a million for these two precious clips...can one find a copy on DVD?
senilangakali 4 years ago
Where did you get this...Can I find it on a dvd?
MuyBonitaBoricua 4 years ago
aww i can't believe he died..... what a guy!!
pinggingting 4 years ago
Thank you!! What's the title of the video? I want to get it
Nivri80 4 years ago
What is Horne singing at 2:13?
elsa8001 4 years ago
I´m not sure, and please, tell me if I´m wrong but I think it´s the cavatina "Per lui che adoro", from L´Italiana in Algeri.
SueAnnNivens 4 years ago
thanks! The tone of her voice is wonderful in that small potion. If you can confirm it, that would be great.
elsa8001 4 years ago
I like Hornes eyes at 3.00.. ha ha ha!!
So devlish...!!!
andreasscholl 4 years ago
thanks so much for uploading these for us to watch. they're very informative and such wonderful singers to listen to.
doeysnooves 4 years ago
i have tried to watch this second part for like 10 times and the da&%&%/%&/8 thing just won´t download!
bravazingara 4 years ago
Trilling is the main thing I want to learn!!!!! Uhhhh!!!!!!
GosfordAbercrombie 4 years ago
please post more of this.
juadan 4 years ago
hornes has such a sexy voice!brava
Babs22h 4 years ago
SINGERS OF THE WORLD. . .look at the size of the mouth opening in Horne's singing. . . VERY small, yet her sound is full and focused, no jaw tension, just breath ! Singing is so much easier if we JUST SHUT OUR MOUTHS. . .a little. <big grin> Let the breath do the work and the focus! BRAVA Marilyn !
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago 2
I could not agree with you more.
figaro0606 4 years ago
Keen perspective Dudley! Thank you much for prodding us to those facts.
soundfond 4 years ago
Thanks. In 30 years, I have done it the wrong way (mouth wide open, voice supported by tongue and jaw muscles and devoid of breath flow) and the right way (like a "hum" with a opening no larger than necessary). In the latter, the voice on its own and naturally, will "find" the breath and support. Singing is nothing more than "sustained speaking", to a melody. A good singer will feel no more tension when he sings than when he speaks. Anything else is "manufactured" and wrong. Oops, sorry.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago 2
thank you for saying that. i am just starting.
jrzy12 4 years ago
Gianni Savelli was AMAZING Bel Canto singer.
onesidered 4 years ago
Muchas garcias SueAnnNivens!!! Great Great videos!!!
colibridelapampa 4 years ago