2: Yeah, right, since when has a steam locomotive ever produced less pollution. That stuff that comes out of the smoke stack, I'm not sure if you know this, but it's a bit more plentiful on a steam engine, just saying.
3. In the 1950s steam locos were more powerful, now we have diesels that put out 4,400+hp with AC traction motors that can craw up a mountain at full power and not lose traction, try that on a steam engine.
@GoneWithTheTobacco Distilled water is not free though and all the testing equipment that comes with it so you're paying for two fuels. Wood is obsolete, it doesn't burn hot enough to make a very powerful steam engine and it's dangerous with its spark problem. Diesels can operate off of biodiesel (which I'm not a fan of) which is renewable because of corn and soy. You still need oil to lubricate the bearings which tends to come out of the system many times.
@GoneWithTheTobacco truthfully, I prefer full out electric locomotives when it comes to economy. You have a couple really powerful generators that power a vast array of locomotives, except the whole idea is expensive in initial costs. If only they didn't get rid of the vast pantograph systems throughout the northeast and Milwaukee rail network.
@KH990j true enough, electric is pretty good when compared to the infrastructure required to run a steam engine but then again you also need electricity and the associated infrastructure to supply electricity too. maybe moonshine stills can produce a fuel that burns in diesel locomotives? dunno i'm not an expert :P
@GoneWithTheTobacco moonshine a term for bootleg alcohol (making booze in the light of the moon). Ethanol and biodiesel are refined for the use in engines rather than for beverage. They can put out more power than petrol fuel (hence why alcohol is used in Nascar) but you can expect fuel economy to go down and prices up along with food and anything that goes with that food and feed to go up.
@KH990j I would guess also that you could also power a diesel locomotive from woodgas, would probably require a woodgas oven though about as big as texas, but might be possible to run those diesel locomotives off coal gas.
@KH990j Unfortunatley with Diesel, woodgas requires a small constant supply of diesel fuel to keep it burning that gas, and with coal gas, well thats a huge undertaking, so yeah either steam fed by coal or electric fed by distributed solar or wind generating plants would probably be best i reckon.
@GoneWithTheTobacco I'm not too concerned about woodgas, I'm refering to biodiesel which is something a bit different. It is possible to operate an engine off of 100% bd. Animal fats, vegetable oils, used cooking oil can be used to operate diesel engines and bd does have its own lubrication. I just don't like bd mainly because of food prices would go up and there is still plenty of untapped petroleum because of "enviornmental reasons" by activists.
@TheSteamLocomotive the context was that steam locomotives are elegantly ugly which makes a difference from flat out ugly. The steam locomotive is about the epitome of a machine in its looks with many protruding objects, lines, and various other things that give it a dark mechanical atmosphere. However, it is all formed together to function and to create power and do work. This mass of exposed parts forms to create a thing of elegance and it moves across the country.
I'd like to know the name of the title song, right after the big boy shows up, as well as the name of the country style song with the violin solo during the D&RGW segment later on in the film, for I'd love to have them in my music collection.
I've watched this vid numerous times on VHS, for it one of the first train videos I ever had. Despite the canned sound effects, it's a good film to start out with for the aspiring railfan.
I got a question I love old steam trains but does any one remember the tv show petticoat junction where they have an old steam train running on the track can someone tell me is that A REAL TRAIN or is it just hollywood made to look real thing,,,
@Dolphindream15 Petticoat junction train was and is now part of the Sierra Railroad collection.. it was filmed out there (it is in cali) and still a tourist railroad.
A lot of comments left behind about the background music, but back in that era, that's how films were done! When I was in school in the 60s most films, regardless of subject, had some kind of background music! Still a great film!!
Ask any gearhead, railfan, or fan of any kind of engine anywhere. They'll tell you the same. There's almost nothing more beautiful than a big steamer, billowing smoke and steam as it roars down the mainline at 70 mph. It's one thing all us "motorheads" have in common!
@akman45304 music expresses can express emotion or a feeling and can sometimes turn even the most boring of motion pictures into something more exciting.
@densmithe Much of this footage didn't originally have sound. Lot's of camcorders if any of them didn't have sound back then. Besides, both the narration and music are amazing. The narrator puts the viewer into the history and the music helps exemplify the emotions.
In a tug of war match, a mainline steam engine would easily tow a mainline diesel today. What killed the steam engine was simple due to maintenance and crew cost, not pulling power. When C&O 614 was running the coal trains up the New River Gorge (for the ACE3000 Project), the were running more economical the the set of Chessie System SD-45-2s.
@sitp2 You're probably wrong about the tug of war, the one thing why diesels were first introduced as switchers was because they were great at that job. A diesel has a significantly higher starting tractive effort than a steam loco. You cannot apply full power on a steam loco when starting because there will be really bad wheelslip due to the large wheels then you lose all traction. Sure you could get one with smaller wheels but than you have a weaker loco.
@sitp2 Furthermore you can't bring sand into the picture because diesels have that too along with certain traction control systems. They put those small wheels on the diesel for a reason, better tractive effort; the change in speed from the traction motores is with the reduction gear. I really am starting to wonder where people are finding these fuel stats between diesels and steam, I'd like to see them myself.
@KH990j I would have to agree with you both. I can think of only one class of diesel thats is up to par and they are rare. I think they are in canada.
@3wide4checkers 1. If you check out check out part 4 or 5 of this video, it will show you a device called an Archemede's screw which crushed coal and moved it into the firebox. This allowed to fuel the locomotive faster than what two workers could do.
2. Hmm, the only A/C was how fast you could get the train going. Imagine a 95 degree day, you have to wear full clothing (long pants and long sleeves shirt and a hat) to protect you. You are only sitting about a foot or two from the fire box.
@3wide4checkers In winter time, even when it was freezing cold, the engineer could be sweating on his face, but when he touched the back of his neck, he could feel the snow collecting on it. By the 1940s, steam locos had large fire boxes, and they needed to generate a lot of heat considering some boilers ran up to nearly 300 psi, which is alot for any steam engine.
3. One would be trained in railroad operations, the characteristics of the locos and the lines.
@3wide4checkers An engineer would be taught by a senior about the line up and down and make several trips before becoming certified for that line. A fireman was taught how to stoke the fire right, and it wasn't your average little camp fire or one that you would find in a stove, these were more difficult to make.
You have to do things right, if you mess up you got chewed out badly. There was no political correctness in those days, haha.
it looks like steam engines were more efficient then diesel trains and more powerful.....i mean steam engines used coal and water to make steam unlike diesel trains which takes gas
@Throwedcat 50 years ago that would have been true, but diesel techonology has progressed so far since it was introduced. In 1950 a V16 diesel engine could put out about 1,500 hp. Today a larger V16 diesel can put out 4,400+ hp, much more tractive effort and consume far less fuel. Their's a reason why there's an entire tender behind a steam loco, they use a lot of fuel, whereas a diesel has just a tank. Diesels also do not use gas but diesel which is more refined and efficient than gasoline.
@Throwedcat: I don't where you got some idea that steam is more "efficient" than diesel as steam is far, FAR more inefficient than diesel.
Diesel has a thermal efficiency of around 35+ percent versus just around 6 percent efficiency for steam..... meaning that just 6 percent of the coal/oil burned and water turned into steam turns the wheels which means that 94 percent of coal/oil and wasted was "wasted".
@Throwedcat: Additionally the steam trains were EXTREMELY high maintenance compared to diesels. Don't have the exact numbers but it's something like a diesel locomotive needs to be maintenanced 1 time over a period as compared to 4 or 5 times a steam locomotive would have to be maintenanced over that same period.
@Throwedcat: To compensate for the lower power of the diesel a train would have a "lash up" of 3 or 4 diesels to equal the pull of a steam BUT it was still cheaper to have a multiple diesel lash up than a single steam..... that's how much more efficent diesels are/were.
@Throwedcat: that's why the "beancounters" that ran the railroads couldn't convert to diesels fast enough: lower maintenance costs = GREATER PROFITS FOR THE RAILROADS.
Railroads are in the business to make money not be sentimental about the "beauty" or "aura" of steam locomotives.
@lukebccb It's not just that: there easier to maintain, far easier. And engineers much rather prefer the diesel over the steam engine. The steam engine was a huge task to run although fun and memorable for the old timers, today crews would much rather operate diesels, they're just far more easier to use and probably easier to fix too.
@richardcwood1 I miss the ATSF period and the SP, though when I was a kid, it was older second gen EMD diesels dressed in blue and yellow warbonnet or Kodachrome and the bloody nose.
Oh my gosh! I had this video as a kid but lost it! I heard the music and was ten years old again!!! Thank you so much for such a pleasant memory from my child hood. :-)))
@TedNewsom In the credits it says L.L. Chicago narrated it; however, if you really are the Ted Newsom who wrote and directed this, my hat off to you for creating in my opinion the greatest railroad documentary ever made.
@KH990j Is that so? I can remember watching this video since I was about 3 maybe earlier, and I've been watching it ever since. After my uncle purchased a DVD/VHS dubber, I came up with this idea to post it on the internet. The narration is amazing like I've said, it puts the viewer into the documentary. How come you only stopped with this video? Not enough profit, if I might ask?
@TedNewsom Wow if you are the guy who narrated this film and wrote it, my engineers hat is off to you. I have the video and I cherish it to this day. I only wish they came out with it on dvd.
@compukenny if you watch last of the giants they use similar narration in that video too. I think they just combined everything into this video or whatever.
I saw many grand steam locomotives at Northwestern Steel and Wire at Sterling, Illinois going for scrap. The next few years everytime I saw a box of "Sterling nails" at the store, I often wondered "which one" LOL
@southernprideyankee Cheesy? I believe the music helps out the video alot. The purpose of music on videos is to help spark emotion, it states a theme for the setting.
I said in another video, nothing quite like a steam train. I do prefer European over American, but they are all great in their own ways! Beautiful machines!
@Cockroach2008 People who don't suffer from nostalgia have no heart. I hope you have something to be nostalgic about. Nostalgia is feeling the fact that something matters and that you contain both moral, memory and imagination. Steam engines made the world what it is today. And by god we are way better off today, then 200 years ago.
No single person has the capability to grasp the complete impact these machines have had on the living standards and possibilities of all homans on this planet.
@ibytedk Steam locomotives did play their part in development of not only this country, but many others. No question about it. We are better off with their contribution.
But, they have paid their service lives & now it is time to recycle the materials. It is time to cut all the remaining steam locomotives apart & send them to the foundries for melting into new products!
@Cockroach2008 that's right, and don't forget to add your computer to the list too, it's probably outlived its service life too, along with that TV, your car... hmm what else... and your mom. Oops my bad , that slipped off the fingers there. Oh, and don't forget to scrap over half of the US Military's equipment since most of the stuff we use is older than me. I know, I'm a H-1 Huey and Cobra mechanic, some of our Hueys are from the 70s, we won't get rid of them because they're the best.
@KH990j I know I am right. My computer is not beyond it's service life. But the day it is, I am not going to put it up as a very expensive museum piece. The same applies for my television, car, mother, military equipment, the H-1 helicopter included.
When it comes to the end of it's service life it is time to put it into the grinder or apply the cutting torches.
It is time to graffiti paint, junk, strip, scrap, cut apart & melt all the remaining steam locomotives! Good riddance!
@Cockroach2008 lol, I have to admit, that comment was funny. Way to shake off a comment. Nah, you know what's better than ripping older things up, watch Dave's Farm on Youtube to see what I'm talking about. However... YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR HUEYZS!!!!
Cockroach2008: the reincarnation of Mr. Good-for-nothing Beeching, tell me exactly what GAIN will you get from this apart from a few tin cans? did you know that they tend to just throw the majority of the iron back into the pile? Besides, don't you have better things to do than to go and troll on youtube? pretty sad too.
@sewallm60 Since you are so confused, let me help you! I was concieved like everyone else.
I told my mother how confused you are. We laughed for a long while.
She agrees with me, "Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!" We want to attend the barbecue when the last gondola of cut up steam locomotive parts rolls out of the scrap yard, destined for the foundry to melt those parts.
@Cockroach2008 You laughed with your mother? Funny I though you told me you stabbed her to death with a spoon a few years ago? How can she still be around to laugh?
@Cockroach2008 Mister you are out of your wits. Melt history and destroy everything you once held dear! No single existing steam engine is beyond it's service life. The nature of it's service has but changed. Now it tells history and provides young and old with the sence of purpose and respect for the past and what our forefathers did and made to provide us with the society we have today.
Teaching you about the lives of your predecessors is a part of any good education and good upbringing.
@MrCrazyAsshole Thank you for the suggestion. I sincerely appreciate it.
However, after careful deliberation & consideration, I respectfully must decline. It seems those parts are still in working order & very much used for a very good cause.
But, keep those ideas flowing because one day you may hit upon a good one.
@Cockroach2008 Mister you are out of your wits. Melt history and destroy everything you once held dear! No single existing steam engine is beyond it's service life. The nature of it's service has but changed. Now it tells history and provides young and old with the sence of purpose and respect for the past and what our forefathers did and made to provide us with the society we have today.
Teaching you about the lives of your predecessors is a part of any good education and good upbringing.
@Cockroach2008 Are you talking about preserved historic artifacts? Why there has been spend a lot of time and money in preserving them for our children and grandclildren to explore. The excess has already been scraped. Are you building some giant robot to take over the world since you are such interested in getting scrap metal?
@david245611 True, not all of them have what we would call beautiful, but there are some that look nice, try looking up the SP 4449. That would certainly be considered beautiful.
No, not unless you copy it like I did. Just get a Magnavox VHS-DVD player, it has VHS-DVD dubb. That's what I used. It can also be used to copy TV shows onto DVD. Watch out for other brands that only records onto VHS; I think Magnavox is the only producer who has the dubber.
if my classmates watched this they would be so bored. I would be yelling out the names of the railroads i saw and sitting in the front desks to watch this.
I like the "down home" kinda feel some North american steamers have. Like they were built from scratch and look like they need nothing more than the wood (or coal) they burin, the water they boil and the men who run them; narrow gauge trains in particular.
Britain invented the steam train and the organised railway network on iron and steel rails. We are experts in making trains go fast and America is an expert in making trains powerful and MASSIVE!!!
Well, I would say both countries had well made routes; you have to consider the transcontinental railsystem which has become the stuff of legends which traversed the great rockies. Britain's recent accomplishment was with the Chunnel.
@KH990j Ah yes forgot them, and there was another one which was looking like it, the milwaukee road class A which was before it.
Those locomotives proved to be even faster than the LNER A4 Mallard :p
The record of the mallard has been made in a slope and without cars behind it. The american ones done this and even more on the flat and in regular service ^^
Trains which sizes were bound to the size of their land. ;)
The two people under me don't know what they're talking about. I just watched this for American Studies, though honestly it was more for pleasure after about two minutes.
It's nice to hear about motive power outside of Atlas Shrugged; no beliefs being pounded into my head here.
I watched It From Age 3-8 And I Havent Seen it Since, Im 21 Now And Man I Never Thought I'd See This Beautiful Documentary Ever Again, THANK YOU FOR POSTING~!
These Steamn engines are my FAVORITE!!!!!!
PREZILLA2009 1 week ago
OK in my opinion I suggest that the world goes back to using steam trains 3 reasons....
1: They look awesome
2: They help reduce pollution...
3: They are more powerful than desils....especialy in tripple-header form..
Justin5637 3 weeks ago
@Justin5637
1. They do look awesome
2: Yeah, right, since when has a steam locomotive ever produced less pollution. That stuff that comes out of the smoke stack, I'm not sure if you know this, but it's a bit more plentiful on a steam engine, just saying.
3. In the 1950s steam locos were more powerful, now we have diesels that put out 4,400+hp with AC traction motors that can craw up a mountain at full power and not lose traction, try that on a steam engine.
KH990j 3 weeks ago
@KH990j How about this reason, they run on a renewable resource (water + wood) and a resource thats pretty much finite, coal.
You never know we might need steam trains again to rebuild america after this coming collapse.
GoneWithTheTobacco 5 days ago
@GoneWithTheTobacco Distilled water is not free though and all the testing equipment that comes with it so you're paying for two fuels. Wood is obsolete, it doesn't burn hot enough to make a very powerful steam engine and it's dangerous with its spark problem. Diesels can operate off of biodiesel (which I'm not a fan of) which is renewable because of corn and soy. You still need oil to lubricate the bearings which tends to come out of the system many times.
KH990j 5 days ago
@GoneWithTheTobacco truthfully, I prefer full out electric locomotives when it comes to economy. You have a couple really powerful generators that power a vast array of locomotives, except the whole idea is expensive in initial costs. If only they didn't get rid of the vast pantograph systems throughout the northeast and Milwaukee rail network.
KH990j 5 days ago
@KH990j true enough, electric is pretty good when compared to the infrastructure required to run a steam engine but then again you also need electricity and the associated infrastructure to supply electricity too. maybe moonshine stills can produce a fuel that burns in diesel locomotives? dunno i'm not an expert :P
GoneWithTheTobacco 5 days ago
@GoneWithTheTobacco moonshine a term for bootleg alcohol (making booze in the light of the moon). Ethanol and biodiesel are refined for the use in engines rather than for beverage. They can put out more power than petrol fuel (hence why alcohol is used in Nascar) but you can expect fuel economy to go down and prices up along with food and anything that goes with that food and feed to go up.
KH990j 5 days ago
@KH990j I would guess also that you could also power a diesel locomotive from woodgas, would probably require a woodgas oven though about as big as texas, but might be possible to run those diesel locomotives off coal gas.
GoneWithTheTobacco 5 days ago
@KH990j Unfortunatley with Diesel, woodgas requires a small constant supply of diesel fuel to keep it burning that gas, and with coal gas, well thats a huge undertaking, so yeah either steam fed by coal or electric fed by distributed solar or wind generating plants would probably be best i reckon.
GoneWithTheTobacco 5 days ago
@GoneWithTheTobacco I'm not too concerned about woodgas, I'm refering to biodiesel which is something a bit different. It is possible to operate an engine off of 100% bd. Animal fats, vegetable oils, used cooking oil can be used to operate diesel engines and bd does have its own lubrication. I just don't like bd mainly because of food prices would go up and there is still plenty of untapped petroleum because of "enviornmental reasons" by activists.
KH990j 5 days ago
What's ugly about a steam locomotive? Even foreign steam locomotives have an elegant beauty all their own.
TheSteamLocomotive 1 month ago
@TheSteamLocomotive the context was that steam locomotives are elegantly ugly which makes a difference from flat out ugly. The steam locomotive is about the epitome of a machine in its looks with many protruding objects, lines, and various other things that give it a dark mechanical atmosphere. However, it is all formed together to function and to create power and do work. This mass of exposed parts forms to create a thing of elegance and it moves across the country.
KH990j 1 month ago
<3 UNION PACIFIC BIG BOY <3
zlatko780 1 month ago
I'd like to know the name of the title song, right after the big boy shows up, as well as the name of the country style song with the violin solo during the D&RGW segment later on in the film, for I'd love to have them in my music collection.
I've watched this vid numerous times on VHS, for it one of the first train videos I ever had. Despite the canned sound effects, it's a good film to start out with for the aspiring railfan.
Shipwright1918 3 months ago
I got a question I love old steam trains but does any one remember the tv show petticoat junction where they have an old steam train running on the track can someone tell me is that A REAL TRAIN or is it just hollywood made to look real thing,,,
Dolphindream15 3 months ago
@Dolphindream15 Petticoat junction train was and is now part of the Sierra Railroad collection.. it was filmed out there (it is in cali) and still a tourist railroad.
mxferro 3 months ago
Could somebody tell the announcer to shut up? Lol
Xomanowar99 3 months ago
A lot of comments left behind about the background music, but back in that era, that's how films were done! When I was in school in the 60s most films, regardless of subject, had some kind of background music! Still a great film!!
bullfrog1954 5 months ago
Love the statement some of these trains were more famous than presidents and more useful
45Machine 5 months ago
Need to outlaw Diesels and bring back steam engines they are truly green machines
45Machine 5 months ago
Ask any gearhead, railfan, or fan of any kind of engine anywhere. They'll tell you the same. There's almost nothing more beautiful than a big steamer, billowing smoke and steam as it roars down the mainline at 70 mph. It's one thing all us "motorheads" have in common!
salemcripple 6 months ago
why does every video on youtube HAVE to have music, christ
akman45304 6 months ago
@akman45304 music expresses can express emotion or a feeling and can sometimes turn even the most boring of motion pictures into something more exciting.
KH990j 6 months ago
Dear Santa...GIVE ME A TIME MACHINE!!!
23Daant 6 months ago in playlist Trains
A great video,BUT why spoil it with music and chat. THE SOUND is what I want to have of those fantastic Locos.
densmithe 6 months ago
@densmithe Much of this footage didn't originally have sound. Lot's of camcorders if any of them didn't have sound back then. Besides, both the narration and music are amazing. The narrator puts the viewer into the history and the music helps exemplify the emotions.
KH990j 6 months ago
i wish i was around for the golden age of steam, my dad was around for the end of it
ELMSLines 7 months ago
Age of fossil fuel is going down -
TheBeechingAxe 7 months ago
we can always hear elevator music; we can't always hear stack talk. why blur the stack talk with inane music?
CORKYANDERSON 7 months ago
In a tug of war match, a mainline steam engine would easily tow a mainline diesel today. What killed the steam engine was simple due to maintenance and crew cost, not pulling power. When C&O 614 was running the coal trains up the New River Gorge (for the ACE3000 Project), the were running more economical the the set of Chessie System SD-45-2s.
sitp2 7 months ago
@sitp2 You're probably wrong about the tug of war, the one thing why diesels were first introduced as switchers was because they were great at that job. A diesel has a significantly higher starting tractive effort than a steam loco. You cannot apply full power on a steam loco when starting because there will be really bad wheelslip due to the large wheels then you lose all traction. Sure you could get one with smaller wheels but than you have a weaker loco.
KH990j 7 months ago
@sitp2 Furthermore you can't bring sand into the picture because diesels have that too along with certain traction control systems. They put those small wheels on the diesel for a reason, better tractive effort; the change in speed from the traction motores is with the reduction gear. I really am starting to wonder where people are finding these fuel stats between diesels and steam, I'd like to see them myself.
KH990j 7 months ago
@KH990j I would have to agree with you both. I can think of only one class of diesel thats is up to par and they are rare. I think they are in canada.
Plokman040 6 months ago
I have a couple of questions....hopefully someone more knowledgeable can answer
1. On locomotives like the Texas and Big Boy that had there fuelloaded into the fire boxes how exactly did the fuel get in there?
2. How hot would the cab be of lets say a 1940's steam loco?
3. How much training was required to become an engineer in those days and where there any prerequisite's?
3wide4checkers 8 months ago
@3wide4checkers 1. If you check out check out part 4 or 5 of this video, it will show you a device called an Archemede's screw which crushed coal and moved it into the firebox. This allowed to fuel the locomotive faster than what two workers could do.
2. Hmm, the only A/C was how fast you could get the train going. Imagine a 95 degree day, you have to wear full clothing (long pants and long sleeves shirt and a hat) to protect you. You are only sitting about a foot or two from the fire box.
KH990j 8 months ago
@3wide4checkers In winter time, even when it was freezing cold, the engineer could be sweating on his face, but when he touched the back of his neck, he could feel the snow collecting on it. By the 1940s, steam locos had large fire boxes, and they needed to generate a lot of heat considering some boilers ran up to nearly 300 psi, which is alot for any steam engine.
3. One would be trained in railroad operations, the characteristics of the locos and the lines.
KH990j 8 months ago
@3wide4checkers An engineer would be taught by a senior about the line up and down and make several trips before becoming certified for that line. A fireman was taught how to stoke the fire right, and it wasn't your average little camp fire or one that you would find in a stove, these were more difficult to make.
You have to do things right, if you mess up you got chewed out badly. There was no political correctness in those days, haha.
KH990j 8 months ago
I enjoyed the video and the historical details.
Thanks !
Unfortunately here in Portugal they're going to end a historical train track called "Tua"
hushcolours 8 months ago
I enjoyed the video and the historical details.
Thanks !
Unfortunately here in Portugal they're going to end an historical train track called "Tua"
hushcolours 8 months ago
what about the big boy and morgen they dont say them
matang189 8 months ago
what aboutthe big boy and morgenthey dont say them
matang189 8 months ago
i bought a copy of this on VHS about 10 years ago at walmart for 10 bucks
boats752 8 months ago
it looks like steam engines were more efficient then diesel trains and more powerful.....i mean steam engines used coal and water to make steam unlike diesel trains which takes gas
Throwedcat 9 months ago
@Throwedcat 50 years ago that would have been true, but diesel techonology has progressed so far since it was introduced. In 1950 a V16 diesel engine could put out about 1,500 hp. Today a larger V16 diesel can put out 4,400+ hp, much more tractive effort and consume far less fuel. Their's a reason why there's an entire tender behind a steam loco, they use a lot of fuel, whereas a diesel has just a tank. Diesels also do not use gas but diesel which is more refined and efficient than gasoline.
KH990j 9 months ago
@KH990j Steam engines are much much better looking and much more proud
marioclub12 8 months ago
@marioclub12 I concur with that one.
KH990j 8 months ago
@Throwedcat: I don't where you got some idea that steam is more "efficient" than diesel as steam is far, FAR more inefficient than diesel.
Diesel has a thermal efficiency of around 35+ percent versus just around 6 percent efficiency for steam..... meaning that just 6 percent of the coal/oil burned and water turned into steam turns the wheels which means that 94 percent of coal/oil and wasted was "wasted".
lukebccb 8 months ago
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@Throwedcat: Additionally the steam trains were EXTREMELY high maintenance compared to diesels. Don't have the exact numbers but it's something like a diesel locomotive needs to be maintenanced 1 time over a period as compared to 4 or 5 times a steam locomotive would have to be maintenanced over that same period.
lukebccb 8 months ago
@Throwedcat: To compensate for the lower power of the diesel a train would have a "lash up" of 3 or 4 diesels to equal the pull of a steam BUT it was still cheaper to have a multiple diesel lash up than a single steam..... that's how much more efficent diesels are/were.
lukebccb 8 months ago
@Throwedcat: that's why the "beancounters" that ran the railroads couldn't convert to diesels fast enough: lower maintenance costs = GREATER PROFITS FOR THE RAILROADS.
Railroads are in the business to make money not be sentimental about the "beauty" or "aura" of steam locomotives.
lukebccb 8 months ago
@lukebccb It's not just that: there easier to maintain, far easier. And engineers much rather prefer the diesel over the steam engine. The steam engine was a huge task to run although fun and memorable for the old timers, today crews would much rather operate diesels, they're just far more easier to use and probably easier to fix too.
KH990j 8 months ago
do you still have the movie? if you do can i buy it from you?
tHowtBox15 10 months ago
@tHowtBox15 yep. Um... no.
KH990j 10 months ago
Is this a real movie. If it is where can i get it.
tHowtBox15 10 months ago
@tHowtBox15 good luck trying to find it, nobody's made this video in years.
KH990j 10 months ago
@richardcwood1 I miss the ATSF period and the SP, though when I was a kid, it was older second gen EMD diesels dressed in blue and yellow warbonnet or Kodachrome and the bloody nose.
KH990j 10 months ago
Great, great video!
Greetings from Brazil.
jlvt 11 months ago
Oh my gosh! I had this video as a kid but lost it! I heard the music and was ten years old again!!! Thank you so much for such a pleasant memory from my child hood. :-)))
mattheweppley 11 months ago
@ 0:14 dear santa....
thomasfreak808 11 months ago
6 people hate steam
eduso1986 1 year ago
does anybody have any information regarding union pacific #2537 thats the closest locomotive to me thats been preserved
Barricade360 1 year ago
Excellent. Thank you.
Smedley60 1 year ago
The music sounds like the "French Chef".
How 'bout some BLUEGRASS?
4freespeech 1 year ago
"Watch the power." "Watch the giant tube of iron and steel pull a mile long kingdom of people and material." This is pure golden poetry.
SouthernRR4501 1 year ago
@SouthernRR4501 -- Thank you. I wrote it (and narrated it.) I'm tickled so many people have watched this-- amazed, really! There's over 300,000 hits.
TedNewsom 7 months ago
@TedNewsom In the credits it says L.L. Chicago narrated it; however, if you really are the Ted Newsom who wrote and directed this, my hat off to you for creating in my opinion the greatest railroad documentary ever made.
KH990j 7 months ago
@KH990j Is that so? I can remember watching this video since I was about 3 maybe earlier, and I've been watching it ever since. After my uncle purchased a DVD/VHS dubber, I came up with this idea to post it on the internet. The narration is amazing like I've said, it puts the viewer into the documentary. How come you only stopped with this video? Not enough profit, if I might ask?
KH990j 7 months ago
@TedNewsom Wow if you are the guy who narrated this film and wrote it, my engineers hat is off to you. I have the video and I cherish it to this day. I only wish they came out with it on dvd.
SouthernRR4501 7 months ago
My god, I still have this video on VHS in its original box. Thank you so much for posting it, though.
PrinceForte 1 year ago
"...more popular than some U.S. presidents, and more useful."
fangus503 1 year ago 19
@fangus503 haha bush , clinton ,OBAMA yea that statement true
MrBrockberg 8 months ago
I like this video but it seems I have heard that naration on a video that I own called
Americas Railroads; the steam train legacy
compukenny 1 year ago
@compukenny if you watch last of the giants they use similar narration in that video too. I think they just combined everything into this video or whatever.
KH990j 1 year ago
@KH990j Your right. Same Narator and very very similar
compukenny 1 year ago
I saw many grand steam locomotives at Northwestern Steel and Wire at Sterling, Illinois going for scrap. The next few years everytime I saw a box of "Sterling nails" at the store, I often wondered "which one" LOL
boilerbob7 1 year ago
Its a great video, the footage is amazing but i could really do with out the cheesey music :)
southernprideyankee 1 year ago
@southernprideyankee Cheesy? I believe the music helps out the video alot. The purpose of music on videos is to help spark emotion, it states a theme for the setting.
KH990j 1 year ago 4
@southernprideyankee Bingo! I was growing up during the last 10 years before diesel...it was great.
strat8383 1 year ago
@southernprideyankee Bingo! I was growing up during the last 10 years before diesel...it was great. I don't remember that crappy music...
strat8383 1 year ago
I said in another video, nothing quite like a steam train. I do prefer European over American, but they are all great in their own ways! Beautiful machines!
ZekPatterson 1 year ago
Lol I love this movie it was the first one I ever got. I watched it dozens of times as I grew up
gobipie 1 year ago
i had this video when i was a little kid ,loved it
K4JW 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 quite the instigator, eh. Just great, now I'm going to get negative comments on your comment, thanks man for being considerate.
KH990j 1 year ago
@KH990j I don't think that statements concerning the wrecking & junking the steam locomotive are negative!
It is the most positive thing these clunkers could become!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 People who don't suffer from nostalgia have no heart. I hope you have something to be nostalgic about. Nostalgia is feeling the fact that something matters and that you contain both moral, memory and imagination. Steam engines made the world what it is today. And by god we are way better off today, then 200 years ago.
No single person has the capability to grasp the complete impact these machines have had on the living standards and possibilities of all homans on this planet.
ibytedk 1 year ago
@ibytedk Steam locomotives did play their part in development of not only this country, but many others. No question about it. We are better off with their contribution.
But, they have paid their service lives & now it is time to recycle the materials. It is time to cut all the remaining steam locomotives apart & send them to the foundries for melting into new products!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 that's right, and don't forget to add your computer to the list too, it's probably outlived its service life too, along with that TV, your car... hmm what else... and your mom. Oops my bad , that slipped off the fingers there. Oh, and don't forget to scrap over half of the US Military's equipment since most of the stuff we use is older than me. I know, I'm a H-1 Huey and Cobra mechanic, some of our Hueys are from the 70s, we won't get rid of them because they're the best.
KH990j 1 year ago
@KH990j I know I am right. My computer is not beyond it's service life. But the day it is, I am not going to put it up as a very expensive museum piece. The same applies for my television, car, mother, military equipment, the H-1 helicopter included.
When it comes to the end of it's service life it is time to put it into the grinder or apply the cutting torches.
It is time to graffiti paint, junk, strip, scrap, cut apart & melt all the remaining steam locomotives! Good riddance!
My mother is
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 lol, I have to admit, that comment was funny. Way to shake off a comment. Nah, you know what's better than ripping older things up, watch Dave's Farm on Youtube to see what I'm talking about. However... YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR HUEYZS!!!!
KH990j 1 year ago
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@KH990j The H-1 helicopter will meet it's end & be cut apart. When it does, I told you so! Remember that!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
Cockroach2008: the reincarnation of Mr. Good-for-nothing Beeching, tell me exactly what GAIN will you get from this apart from a few tin cans? did you know that they tend to just throw the majority of the iron back into the pile? Besides, don't you have better things to do than to go and troll on youtube? pretty sad too.
59n1tr0n72 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 i'm not sure how you came into this world since all you're mother would do is give blowjobs to everyone
sewallm60 1 year ago
@sewallm60 Since you are so confused, let me help you! I was concieved like everyone else.
I told my mother how confused you are. We laughed for a long while.
She agrees with me, "Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!" We want to attend the barbecue when the last gondola of cut up steam locomotive parts rolls out of the scrap yard, destined for the foundry to melt those parts.
Recycling at it's finest!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 You laughed with your mother? Funny I though you told me you stabbed her to death with a spoon a few years ago? How can she still be around to laugh?
xxxIronHeadxxx 1 year ago
@xxxIronHeadxxx That is correct! We laughed together!
You thought wrong, pal! You have me mixed up with someone else!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 gay ass antisteam troll.
fucking2fucker 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 Mister you are out of your wits. Melt history and destroy everything you once held dear! No single existing steam engine is beyond it's service life. The nature of it's service has but changed. Now it tells history and provides young and old with the sence of purpose and respect for the past and what our forefathers did and made to provide us with the society we have today.
Teaching you about the lives of your predecessors is a part of any good education and good upbringing.
ibytedk 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 what you gonna do when you come to the end of your service life, I see your 61, Getting verry close.
willibill1 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 Scrap your dick and your balls cause they are no longer needed.
MrCrazyAsshole 1 year ago
@MrCrazyAsshole Thank you for the suggestion. I sincerely appreciate it.
However, after careful deliberation & consideration, I respectfully must decline. It seems those parts are still in working order & very much used for a very good cause.
But, keep those ideas flowing because one day you may hit upon a good one.
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
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@Cockroach2008 Mister you are out of your wits. Melt history and destroy everything you once held dear! No single existing steam engine is beyond it's service life. The nature of it's service has but changed. Now it tells history and provides young and old with the sence of purpose and respect for the past and what our forefathers did and made to provide us with the society we have today.
Teaching you about the lives of your predecessors is a part of any good education and good upbringing.
ibytedk 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 Are you talking about preserved historic artifacts? Why there has been spend a lot of time and money in preserving them for our children and grandclildren to explore. The excess has already been scraped. Are you building some giant robot to take over the world since you are such interested in getting scrap metal?
Sohave 1 year ago
@KH990j He's just trolling, ignore him.
Robofish12 1 year ago
I have this entire series on VHS. ^^
Nalthren 1 year ago
how much horse power and torque does it have
MASTERRACE19 1 year ago
@MASTERRACE19 It depends on which locomotive.
Jemalacane 1 year ago
I love steam engines! they so awesome they are beautys! I would love to ride in of those babys!
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
ha, way to criticize some presidents HA!
bosoxboy1468927 1 year ago
geil
Patrickneuster 1 year ago
This is a brilliant documentary. Long live steam!
locomotive1804 1 year ago
Ugly!!!!! I don't think so steam locomotives a beauty!
david245611 1 year ago
@david245611 no not just ugly, like the narrator said "elegantly ugly, incredibly powerful".
KH990j 1 year ago
@david245611 True, not all of them have what we would call beautiful, but there are some that look nice, try looking up the SP 4449. That would certainly be considered beautiful.
coasterjudge 1 year ago
@david245611 No one could call them ugly if they've seen the A4 classes!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
Kill the music and silence the talker and you have a great video.
memikell 1 year ago
Wow! I can't believe I was actually able to find this here, I have this video on tape and its a really great video.
theUP844 1 year ago
I was born a hundred years too late.
ponkkaa 1 year ago
I have this movie on VHS, can you get it on DVD?
kingtigertank 1 year ago
No, not unless you copy it like I did. Just get a Magnavox VHS-DVD player, it has VHS-DVD dubb. That's what I used. It can also be used to copy TV shows onto DVD. Watch out for other brands that only records onto VHS; I think Magnavox is the only producer who has the dubber.
KH990j 1 year ago
ah okay, thanks for he tip
kingtigertank 1 year ago
a great feat engneering a real marvel
chevroletman90 1 year ago
This one is my most favorite! I still got it on VHS.
ThomasRules8391 1 year ago
if my classmates watched this they would be so bored. I would be yelling out the names of the railroads i saw and sitting in the front desks to watch this.
mmikeironhorse 1 year ago 9
Anybody know what the song at the beginning is?
I've been looking for the title for it, and I can't find it anywhere....
Shipwright1918 1 year ago
I like the "down home" kinda feel some North american steamers have. Like they were built from scratch and look like they need nothing more than the wood (or coal) they burin, the water they boil and the men who run them; narrow gauge trains in particular.
WhyAyeMann 1 year ago
Britain invented the steam train and the organised railway network on iron and steel rails. We are experts in making trains go fast and America is an expert in making trains powerful and MASSIVE!!!
ROCKSOLID19 1 year ago 2
Well, I would say both countries had well made routes; you have to consider the transcontinental railsystem which has become the stuff of legends which traversed the great rockies. Britain's recent accomplishment was with the Chunnel.
KH990j 1 year ago
@ROCKSOLID19 Americans made fast steam locomotives too, massive and fast, look for the PRR S1 and PRR T1 ;)
TerminatorFRA 1 year ago
@TerminatorFRA and the F7 Hudson that powered the Hiawatha.
KH990j 1 year ago
@KH990j Ah yes forgot them, and there was another one which was looking like it, the milwaukee road class A which was before it.
Those locomotives proved to be even faster than the LNER A4 Mallard :p
The record of the mallard has been made in a slope and without cars behind it. The american ones done this and even more on the flat and in regular service ^^
Trains which sizes were bound to the size of their land. ;)
TerminatorFRA 1 year ago
@TerminatorFRA
no the mallard had cars on it's record breaking trip but it was on a slight downgrade
fudgebaker 1 year ago
@TerminatorFRA Britain made thee fastest!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
you can always tell when the sound of locomotive exhaust has been dubbed into the video, i tnever matches the speed of the engine ??
hoppercar 1 year ago
whats the name of the song at the beginning of this video?
kingtigertank 2 years ago
great!
strat8383 2 years ago
yay im not the only one who owns this video. and i agree that this is one of the best documentary on steam locomotives.
mysteryman2580 2 years ago
same here. I love this movie. too bad when i was little i destroyed the box. anyone know where i can get it on DVD?
or even VHS
kingtigertank 2 years ago
Oi vai Jensen, look at everybody who SHOULD BE SUBBING MY CHANNEL?
jk.
I have Jensen too people!
majewsmovies 2 years ago
What is this jensen thing?
KH990j 2 years ago
he be our American Studies teacher :P
majewsmovies 2 years ago
very well
KH990j 2 years ago
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Moxin667 2 years ago
I wish my American Studies teacher made us watch videos like this. MAybe then I would've passed!
ronthecyborg 2 years ago
@KH990j What is that huge monster, the first one shown in the vid??
ROCKSOLID19 1 year ago
Union Pacific Big Boy
KH990j 1 year ago
@KH990j It is an absolute beast!!
ROCKSOLID19 1 year ago
@ROCKSOLID19 that is one of a hell train which the states has ever built in history
Xyb3rTeCh 1 year ago
<3 Jensen's class.
heidi0oo 2 years ago
i wish i was straight.
Moxin667 2 years ago
lolololol jensens class
breakingbloodvessels 2 years ago
picatzo, moxin is GARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
agjld7 2 years ago
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agjld7 2 years ago
arlo? :D you are in americanstudies too? :D
meldrumlarsen 2 years ago
@picatzo --Haha, arlo.
Meghanistic 2 years ago
The two people under me don't know what they're talking about. I just watched this for American Studies, though honestly it was more for pleasure after about two minutes.
It's nice to hear about motive power outside of Atlas Shrugged; no beliefs being pounded into my head here.
Moxin667 2 years ago
@Moxin667
Is this for Jensen?
picatzo 2 years ago
this is the worst clip to use for homework
X00000GUNDAM00000X 2 years ago
i know its like sooo boring
kRAz13StAt1C 2 years ago
I LOVE TRAINS
Roncace 2 years ago
This is great
chappybolo 2 years ago
Where were the injuns?
BillDFC 2 years ago
i have the whole series! my favorite part is the series opening intro!
Soundwave3591 2 years ago
thanks you, the movies is good, ５★★★★★
vladimir2366fa 2 years ago
Oh Man Does This Take Me Back, i Could Cry.
I watched It From Age 3-8 And I Havent Seen it Since, Im 21 Now And Man I Never Thought I'd See This Beautiful Documentary Ever Again, THANK YOU FOR POSTING~!
TitanicMatthew 2 years ago
i still have this vid from when i was like 3. im 14 now and i still watch it sometimes. hahaha!
Skiier1000 2 years ago
I watched this a million times back when I was little. I wish it was on DVD.
sarmedic8401 2 years ago
British ... American... wherever ... they are all Grand Ladies! Be glad they travelled the earth, and can still be seen in all their beauty.
mabhekaphansi 2 years ago 7
@mabhekaphansi Its very British!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
I have a VHS copy of this program! I would watch it over and over when I was little! It was my favorite tape!
donaldengine9 2 years ago 3
have all of you knobs forgot the age of steam is british!!!!!!!!!!!
thescarredable 2 years ago 5
Of course I haven't, I was just saying that I used to have the VHS of this certain show.
donaldengine9 2 years ago
the start yes, but the mighty steamers were American.
TheDarkFalcon 2 years ago
and often, more useful! Got that one right. Many of them were!
joeferrito 2 years ago
lol the first one looked like it was on steroids
TheEmericaboy187 2 years ago
you know we hear a lot about the regular recipricating steamers but howcome there aren't any videos of like the steam turbine engines
brickmaster24 2 years ago
Thanks for posting
420glass 2 years ago