@propaintballa this is bad camera cant really even tell how much rpm he hits after a certin point just sounds the same... and thats a fairly large turbo to spool on such a small engine... high rpm to hit boost
Don't think me stupid but where did u get your cam cover/engine cover as it looks really good with the front being open and I want to put a little life back into my mx-5 old block the aluminum is looking a little white and dusty nowadays it's a 1991 1.6 awaiting a GReddy upgrade
Been there and done that, and in my opinion & experience there's nothing quite as sweet as a Stock Corvette engined Miata roasting a twin turbo Skyline
GUYS i dont get it...sure a na engine can be built to produce 500+whp
but what we see here is a na that doesnt rev not even 5k rpm you dont hear it
make boost how the hell it produced 536whp???i would like you to explain me
a 1.6 cc engine to create boost on a turbo that is eficient for 600hp must be reved to the max or else it cant produce the gas to rotate the turbo to create boost what am i missing?
this is raw as fuhk, but to hear a cranked out 5.0 chuggin at a stop light...coming from a little baby miata is much more entertaining, intimidating, and just all around kick asss!
just cause someone earlier was saying. why not just swap in an ls1 or ls2 or whatever with 500 hp etc... If a full dressed LS1 weighs a little over 500lbs. and the BP mazda motor fully dressed weighs around 100lbs less. and you have the same power coming from the two motors. which would you choose? In motorsports shaving off 100lbs is a LOT of weight. and will make a huge difference.
I say, stick with what the car came with. It's better not only by reaching similar hp numbers but it weighs less
This car would easily beat a stock ls based engine. It would take at least an ls3 w/ head work and a cam to get near the 500whp level.
Granted the torque curve would be incredible, and the LS3 would likely be much more rugged being that cylinder pressures wouldn't be all that high and it'd be relatively low-strung engine running N/A compared to boosted 4 cyl.
I reckon you could make an easy 1kw rwhp with similar boost on a v8, but what's the point? 500 is more than enough in this car.
you don't need much torque in a Miata...it doesn't weigh as much as a 3800pound muscle car. 2350lbs with a driver and 200rwtq and 500rwhp is more than enough and your 50/50 weight ratio wont be compromised.
Hi all! Drift 510 it doesn't take much to make a Miata hit that mark, just think about the awesome creations from Lotus Elise, Exige they are 12 and low 13 second cars especially the Exige they get it done with 240 HP weighting less than 2000 pounds. I say put the Miata on a small diet target 1900-2000 pounds with 260 to 300 HP and 12 seconds should be easy The Miata community had been focused on road racing and SCCA glory rather than the drag strip is why we don't C more screaming miatas.
Thats way too simple. how was the chassis reinforced to handle that kind of power?? i mean from what i've heard those chassis can only handle upto 350 safely before starting to twist and bend ETC. i was wondering if u stuck to the famous butterfly braces, left it as is, or did ur own custom chassis reinforcement setup?
@BiskitBasket true but there is plenty of aftermarket and excellent companies that been there to support the Miata community for 20 years the Miata had been around with just about every part they could desire, we are a lucky crowd thanks to them. If any Miata sponsors are watching I want to say thanks a lot. As far as beefing up the chassis there are plenty of companies that offer bolt on chassis bracing, cages, roll bars, you name it, Boss Frog, Fat Cat Motorsports, Miata cage are just a few.
Lots of myths about so called heavy American V-8's. The 427ci Vette motor is one of the best, if not the best sports car motor in the world. Hard to make an engine lighter and with more torque. Turbo-ed iron block in-line 4's end up just as heavy or heavier. The outer mode line of the Vette motor is smaller than a BMW V-10 and the chevy makes more torque at idle than the BMW does at peak torque.
Lol revolution228 I just have to say this since you made it so simple power > pride. what about (plus a shit load of money invest with that v8 swap power > pride? Lol you have a miata just keep it na and go nuts on the corner xD
FE3 FTW! the bp is a great motor but if you want the jumbo version of the bp and its a drop in swap besides the trany... go FE3 that makes some pwr and stroke it to a 2.3 and bore to the 2.4 4cyl ! oh yeah
No offense pez but most Miata engines had always been turbo friendly and ready in fact some of them come with a turbo oil feed line there is a plug on the side of these engines where you just remove and hey! there goes your turbo I got friends running 15 pounds of turbo with stock internal for years and no problems but just don't go beyond that. The first Miata engine originated from the turbo 323 in the late 80's.
it sucks because the 13b takes a ton of fab work with the engine and trans, if it worked there would be a ton of them around. If you had the money and the skill a 20b would be about as hard as the 13b motor in. As for V8s, this is a small roadster, a v8 is powerful but not really the image or the purpose the miata was built for. I say stick with a NB, build and turbo that. If you want to the msm engine and trans fit right into the 1gen chassis. I personally picked the NB built, keeps the fun.
Just like this Miata, The best swap will be none LOL. keep the miata engine, Only 1990 and 91 engines were bad because of the weak crank nose but 92 and up this engines are bullet proof, no American V8 or V6 will be as reliable. Turbo charge the Miata engine and you got yourself a monster that is light with no compromise on balance and stability.
No American V8 will be as reliable?? Where are we? the 1970s? Obviously you know nothing about modern V8s. And slapping a turbo on ANY engine will decrease its reliability.
Not only that, but most people don't swap engines for reliability. If they did, you would see a bunch of Pintos with Accord motors in them.
BTW, aluminium V8s are very comparible in weight as iron 4 cylinders.
what he said is true. it's not saying american v8's are bad in any way, it's just that there are very few engines of any kind from ANY manufacturer that are as bullet proof as mazda BP series engines.
even with a turbo, as long as you have a good tune and don't go too much boost for the stock rods and pistons, they are extremely reliable. and if you wanna go big boost, all you have to do is get some forged rods/pistons and keep everything else stock.
Squeezing 530hp out of a 1.8L is going to keep it reliable? I've owed 5 GM cars in the last 7 or 8 years that had/have 300k+ miles on them and have never had major engine work.
I'm not saying a Mazda motor is better/worse for reliability (as I've also got a KLZE in my Probe GT), what I am saying is a 500+hp 4 cylinder isn't going to be reliabile at all, no matter the manufacurer, where MMG said that it is more reliable/lighter than an American engine, which is not true.
i love my miatas B61P and BP05 but i have to say that he's right. my 1.6l motor shortblock (no accessories or manifolds) comes weighing to 335 pounds. a LS1 (corvette engine with no accessories or manifolds)
345 pounds. yeah i know incredible and think about the power. miata 1.6l L4 100WHP and 83ft lbs/torque at 5000RPM
5.7l V8 325WHP about equal amout of torque with very little RPM increase.
1990 and 1991 were damn good miata engine, B6T from the GTX with B6T internal, they are better thant the 1992 and 1993 B6, they will also take more boost than a 1994-1997 BP with the stock internals !
@MiamiMiataGroupInc no american v8 will be as reliable??? your full of shit, the ls1's are way more reliable, and you dont have to rev the piss out of them to make power. no turbo lagg and tons of manageable horsepower/torque.
@Fuku2hoe the ls series are great engines, i'm not gonna deny it. but you can't deny the miata engine isn't well built. the only reason the ls series is better is due to the 3 time bigger displacement than a miata engine. so if you scale the power output of an ls series engine down to a miata engine size, there putting out about the same.
@hudg7630 the miata engine is well built for its size, ill give you that. but the comment of no american v8 or v6 will be as reliable is total horse shit. the ls1 is alot more reliable, ive seen 250,000 mile stock ls1's with 150 shots still going strong. that comment = ricer. and the ls1 is also lighter then many 4 cylinders (ka24de, h22, etc)
@Fuku2hoe oh yea i m not gonna argue that at all. i wasn't trying to say that it was better built than other engines. i mean if you take care of your engine it can last forever. it all comes down to how you treat your car, and i wasn't trying to argue it was more reliable than some engines. for example a 250,000 miles on a diesel engine is nothing.
@Fuku2hoe Damn so the LS1 is the only worthy V8 engine Chevy has built? Sad for them. Please don't even talk about LT1 and stuff, while I never stop driving my Miata my neighbors never seem to stop wrenching their LT powered Camaros. While I have seen their Camaros return in tow trucks, in my 12 years of Miata ownership they have yet to see one of my Miatas come home that way.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc i said the ls1 is the best engine series that chevy has ever produced. please dont twist my words. i never mentioned a LT1 so i dont know why your bringing that into this conversation, but any idiot can ruin a perfectly good engine. do not underestimate stupidity... i was only speaking about the ls1, and yes it is an amazing engine that is why it is swapped into basically everything! how many people swap miata engines into other cars?? i dont know of any.
@Fuku2hoe Easy they don't lust after the Miata engine because in stock form they are low HP and because they totally ignore the fact that they are awesome for turbo, not even a D or B series from Honda or the SRT20 can take boost as well and many don't even know what a miata is at all.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc people dont lust after it because A. turbo'd or not it still has a horrible powerband. B. has SHIT for aftermarket support (not even a 1/4 of the aftermarket for ls1 parts). C. i totally disagree with you, EVERYONE know what a miata is... its the most popular road racing chassis on this earth, and if you goto any track in this country (road course) you will see one.
@Fuku2hoe Horrible powerband ? this is where your comment goes totally wrong. Mazda was wise enough 2 produce the perfect light weight roadster many have tried 2 imitate and failed miserably. Low on power means low cost and light weight it all works in wonderful harmony this means keeping the gears short 2 maximize power delivery all across the rev range. Shit aftermarket? Your ignorance reaches new level here. I doubt U own or even drove a Miata and honestly please stay away they are not 4 u
@MiamiMiataGroupInc what does the power band of an engine have to do with the chassis being light weight? all 4 cylinders lack low end torque no matter what they are in. sure short gears will put a band-aid on the crappy power band, but it still doesnt have shit for low end torque... the miata chassis is a great 1 and i never argued that point, it is a great lightweight roadster. now when a miata puts down 536 rwhp it has about 250-300 ftlbs torque! that is NOTHING!!!
@Fuku2hoe Yes sir please continue your ignorant arguments with someone else. One final note please stay away from miatas, you are better off driving a pathetic torque less and powerless honda Civic. You will be a disgrace to the Miata community owning one of this cars. C ya.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc why buy a torque less and powerless civic when i can get torque less and powerless miata and skull fuck an ls1 + t56 into it. then i have the best of both worlds. 500rwhp 460rwtq on 93 pump n/a on the stock bottom end sure beats 526rwhp and 200rwtq LOL
@Fuku2hoe Actually the Miata has incredible aftermarket support.
Jackson Racing and Kraftwerk to name a few make supercharger systems for the Mazda Miata engines, Companies such as Flyin' Miata and Good-Win Racing make turbo kits using garret and turbonetics turbo chargers. Racing Beat, Borla, Tokico, Hotchkis, Ferrera, Fidanza, ACT, K&N, Tein, Brembo, Wilwood, etc just to name a few all make parts for the Miata. Just saying...
@MiamiMiataGroupInc the 90s and 91s were only bad when in the hands of bad mechanics. I had a 90 motor in mine, the pully was over tightened and there goes the crank. Now I have a 91 motor still short nose with 220k running real strong.... but id be lying if I said I didn't have a newer 1.6 with 30k miles on the side just in case ;-) lolol
@MiamiMiataGroupInc So you're honestly telling me that a Brad Anderson Enterprises top fuel dragster Hemi block won't be as reliable as a Miata's block, despite it being a forged aluminum block that can tolerate 8,000 horsepower, and send 2,300 pound dragsters down the strip in 4.5 seconds, at roughly 320 MPH? It's an American V8!
You fanboys need to get off of this "American cars are inferior" shit. True car guys give each brand and/or country it's deserved credit.
@kcole939 This could be possibly the worst comparison I've ever heard. You are comparing a Top Fuel engine, which can't run at WOT for more than 10 seconds without overheating or blowing up to a Mazda engine (let alone ANY production car engine). Yeah, I wonder which one I'd have in my daily driver? LMAO
@MyOpinionMatterss Sure, it's not a good comparison. Go read through the comments before you want to bitch about it, though. The guy said ANY American V8. Top Fuel dragsters cannot run for more than 10 seconds, right, do you know why though? The heat produced by 8,000 Horsepower destroys the spark plugs, and melts the multi-step clutch system completely together.
Nelson Racing Engines builds 1,500+ HP big blocks that you CAN drive daily, on pump gas. Check them out.
@MyOpinionMatterss With all of that said, if you do not get the point by now, your brain is as worthless as used toilet paper. We were talking engine blocks, and how much power they can tolerate. Not daily driver cars, not how many miles they'll last.
I was discussing reliability as far as power goes. You know, how much power it'll produce before the fucking block it's self cracks. Go find me a 4.5 second Rotary powered car, any block whatsoever used, as long as it's a rotary.
@kcole939 Excuse me, I meant any Mazda block. When I think of Mazdas, I automatically think of the rotary cars. Scratch that, any Mazda OEM style block.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc I say you wanna swap it, then put a lightweight n/a rotary in there! it's so lightweight you may even end up with a 49/50 weight ratio :)
@MiamiMiataGroupInc certain engines put in Miatas later in the year of 1991 were ok.
My 1991 has a long nose crank.
Last digits in VIN need to be 209447 or more and the vehicle should have came with a long nose crank. anything less should have came with a short nose crank.
@Triple88a not sure of the exact figures but our iron block BP engines are rather heavy not to mention a turbo can easily add 100lbs after all that piping, the intercooler and the extra oil needed. A KL V6 would drop weight over the stock 4 cyl and I think the LSx V8 conversions only add about 50lbs with the transmission. The fact that the rotory engines are small keeps their weight down. The RENESIS in the RX8 weighs 247lbs. so im assuming a 26B is under 500lbs.
@JD0x0 Iron block is 300lb, turbo is roughly 50 lb with everything over the stock equipment. The 4 rotor on the other hand is small however is very thick iron as it tends to warp since it makes so much power. The Lemans 4 rotor was just over 400 lb dry and thats a tiny motor made for one race. Just one more question...where do you get a 4 rotor from anyways?
@Triple88a IIRC Someone weighed their BP engine and it was closer to 475lbs, they also had weighed a twin turbo 13b at 503lbs(rather heavy IMO) but the renesis is less than half that. I know group in New Zealand builds 4 rotors. Theres a group in New Jersey that i know build 3 rotor, not sure about 4 rotors, but I cant see why they wouldnt be able to. A 4 rotor Renesis would be even better than a 26B since mazda had fixed some issues and raised the compression from a measly 8:1 ratio.
@Triple88a Did some searching can't find the pictures of the engines being weighed, but are you sure that 300lbs is with the transmission or just the engine itself? IIRC the engine was weighed with the 5 speed at a weight close to 475. But heres some interesting info apparently there are all aluminum 13B's being built and they weigh 110lbs. Yes thats not a typo wwwDOTrx8clubDOTcom/showpost.php?p=3335781&postcount=7 The 16x which will be in the RX9 is supposed to be all aluminum as well.
@JD0x0 just engines. I've never seen a 13b aluminum but either way not something you'll want to have if u want dependable. If you've ever seen the gumbal races... theres a rx7 in there making shit loads of power out of a rotary... the engine simply twists like a squeezed towel because it makes so much power.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc miami miata group...idiot..."weak crank nose"...its the same damn thing just torque it right and dont put it on backwards when changing timing belt...stfu...but as for the pro miata comment....i agree
@jamesnotnev Let me guess and u R the smart one? Good for U. But having no class or education seems to be your true identity is just why you talk like that to total strangers, also the fact that you are in the internet and if u were in the street cursing people out you will have to eat your dirty words or they will dump your lifeless body in a river. Watch yourself Sir.
@MiamiMiataGroupInc 2jz is more reliable and these can only handle so much psi and hp before they come very very unreliable, how many 700hp 1.8l miata so you see? how many 700hp mustangs and supras and evo and shit do u see? yes the motor is a good but with the right parts the right tune and not to much power or psi this is a great, fun ass hell, light weight car but as far as saying no v6 or v8 is as reliable is just ignorance..
@sofargone561 You do know that 2JZ-GTE's have horrible weight balance, right? That's why most Supras have RB engines in them for track use. The only thing it's good at is for being a dyno-monster or drag machine.
@wajalama ive never seen a supra with and rb in it that seems retarded to me i can understand not putting one in a miata because its so damn light but i cant see pulling a 2jz out of its home to put in a high maintence expensive ass rb
@wajalama oh ok gotcha well their isnt much track stuff around here everything is drag and drift and theirs still not to much of that i guess thats y i never see it
@wajalama That is wrong in so many ways. A Toyota team would NEVER put a Nissan engine in one of their race cars. Plus neither of those engines are even used in SuperGT. Saying "most Supras" is a gross overstatement.
@wajalama Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about. That car was not part of JGTC/SuperGT. That's one of the only documented cases of the swap.
@maluchman1 KLV6 from mazda. Supposed to be lighter than stock engine and it's got pretty good power. They also sound fucking awesome with ITB's. The swap is supposed to be relatively easy, and apparently there may be kits coming out to help make the swap more "bolt on"
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That is the slowest revving 500whp car I have ever seen heard. It should have ripped through the gear once it spooled.. BS. Take it to the track.. run it down the 1/.4 show up a 10 sec time slip or FUCK OFF
YES! OPen loop baby!!! Your in Vacume while freeway cruising.. If you can't get 30 mpg with 4 cyl turbo with modern ECU tuning you need to just give it up.
My DSM runs 12.4@117 and gets like 36mph cruising back home from the dragway. Hell I use more gas in 4 1/4 mile passes than I do driving to the track..
if im right.and that turbo is as big as it looks.then yeah.he does have that much HP.but hes wasting a shit load of gas on it.and he has to be racing this car.or hes rich if he isnt.
Nice Masda dude. If you like to see some bad ass Masda's or tunners go or look into the Puerto Rico sports cars scene with 40+ years with imports presided by some bad ass 50's, 60's and 70's muscle cars, some are radical ticking bombs. Like So.California, Woodward ave. and the Long Island,N.Y. duels of the yesteryears. Peace
Its called a SR20DET, Its a Nissan engine that is a common engine swap for latter model 240sx's, but its rare in Miatas' because it requires alot more work. The SR20DET is easy to get to 400hp
haha yeah I can't even imagine... although this one's pretty sick too. This guy's pretty infamous at the miata website... search for eliminator77, he's got some cool info
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THat thing took like 12 seconds to spool up and get through whatever gear that was. I'm thinkin what 3rd? 4th gear even? Didn't look or sound like 500whp b/c it WASN'T. SOrry but here's a big ol BS flag for ya!. 500whp cars ( especially little high reving 1.8's ) don't take that long to get through any freakin gear. We know your upset you bought a miata but don't lie to the world about the power your not making. 1/4 time! . I want a VID and a time slip. If its not a low 11. Your a liar.
Dude, just a word of advice, if you don't know what your on about .. Don't go on about it.. I'm not even gonna bother explaining to you how dynos work.. Just google it next time you wanna make stupid remarks about people and their cars.
500+HP in an miata, that's a dead man driving in this car
belgiumlife 1 month ago
And people say these are a girls car. Shit will eat you alive
SaturatedLivingTV 1 month ago
@SaturatedLivingTV
naw girls miata's go faster ;p nothing like drifting topless! ... ya know ... the vert.. ahh nevermind ;p
shulawnana 1 week ago
Some supras run a 3sgte for better weight transfer on track cars
crisco14091983 1 month ago
BP FTW! !!
buhrrito 1 month ago
is that a sr20det???
xDJDGx 2 months ago
What size motor is this?
CoyBiteTowing 3 months ago
For a little guy he wanted to go.
MrBassbump 5 months ago
thats a hell of a horsepower rating
vkotis 5 months ago
I can't see how that's over 500BHP at all...
propaintballa 6 months ago
@propaintballa dont see the like 700hp capable turbo on it?
Tj1056 5 months ago
@Tj1056
?
propaintballa 5 months ago
@propaintballa well you said you cant see it over 500hp and there is a turbo on there that can push 700hp and a dyno to say its 500hp...
Tj1056 5 months ago
@Tj1056
Lol, i'm sure the turbo CAN do that… It just doesn't look as powerful as other similar cars that quote less horsepower tbh
propaintballa 5 months ago
@propaintballa im guessing thats a RB motor not sure of which one but they all push high numbers on stock internals
Tj1056 5 months ago
@Tj1056 Uh, no. That's the stock BP engine with the cam gear cover shaved off.
wajalama 5 months ago
@Tj1056
In your video, was that the final pull?
propaintballa 5 months ago
@propaintballa hmm?
Tj1056 5 months ago
@Tj1056
Just looks and sound like the car revs to like 3k rpm :/
propaintballa 5 months ago
@Tj1056
Well, maybe 5k haha… Compared to the video on the right called "Turbo Miata 400hp, corksport dyno day"
propaintballa 5 months ago
@propaintballa this is bad camera cant really even tell how much rpm he hits after a certin point just sounds the same... and thats a fairly large turbo to spool on such a small engine... high rpm to hit boost
Tj1056 5 months ago
@Tj1056
Hahaha, fair enough dude :) Nice car either way ;)
propaintballa 5 months ago
What Transmission are you using? I'm building my 550 whp miata right now and don't want to blow it.
stabilityball 6 months ago
im in love not being nosy but how much did it cost all together
adrbmk 6 months ago
Engine looks sick, as well as the car it's self looks good as well.
RQUARESMA7ful 6 months ago
Don't think me stupid but where did u get your cam cover/engine cover as it looks really good with the front being open and I want to put a little life back into my mx-5 old block the aluminum is looking a little white and dusty nowadays it's a 1991 1.6 awaiting a GReddy upgrade
Jozland 8 months ago
@Jozland cut it my friend and sand it smooth then paint it with wrinkle red or black then ur good
mazdaspeed4life 7 months ago
damn is that stock miata motor i didnt know they could handle so much
nytodie 8 months ago
@nytodie lol, they can't.
ninjagod1337 7 months ago
@ninjagod1337 so what engine is this guy using
nytodie 1 month ago
@nytodie A heavily modified BP.
ninjagod1337 1 month ago
nice body kit
MrSweetleaf92 10 months ago
Needs some info on what's his project is built on.
Subsw00fers 10 months ago
drop a 5.0 with a kenne bell
nam9456 1 year ago
@nam9456 That would screw up the miata's weight. Real bad.
wajalama 1 year ago
@wajalama i'm going to give you a sarcastic "really?". Do your research bud.
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a Last time I remembered, a 5.0 small block isn't exactly the lightest engine in the book. Why don't YOU do some research, "bud".
wajalama 11 months ago
@wajalama Right and last time i remembered the miata 1.8 iron block isnt light either :-)
The aluminum 302 is quite light actually.
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a Lighter than a 302 5.0 will ever be. Not to mention that the power to weight ratio on those engines were garbage.
wajalama 11 months ago
@wajalama It's 100lb difference.
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a 100lbs is a huge difference in motorsports, you should have some idea about how important weight is in a race.
wajalama 11 months ago
Been there and done that, and in my opinion & experience there's nothing quite as sweet as a Stock Corvette engined Miata roasting a twin turbo Skyline
LS2V8Miata 1 year ago
my 91 has 193k miles on a little crank locktight is all it needs
still good for 120 mph stock sometimes it is more fun than my zr1
gtubyyy 1 year ago
@gtubyyy My 90' has 147k and runs like a champ ;) No mods yet, though
69bakedskater 1 year ago
GUYS i dont get it...sure a na engine can be built to produce 500+whp
but what we see here is a na that doesnt rev not even 5k rpm you dont hear it
make boost how the hell it produced 536whp???i would like you to explain me
a 1.6 cc engine to create boost on a turbo that is eficient for 600hp must be reved to the max or else it cant produce the gas to rotate the turbo to create boost what am i missing?
ps.sorry for my bad english
Tzefri84 1 year ago
this is raw as fuhk, but to hear a cranked out 5.0 chuggin at a stop light...coming from a little baby miata is much more entertaining, intimidating, and just all around kick asss!
TJames772 1 year ago
no American V8 or V6 will be as reliable. Wow I wish I had a nickle every time some one said this
copleygsxr 1 year ago 2
just cause someone earlier was saying. why not just swap in an ls1 or ls2 or whatever with 500 hp etc... If a full dressed LS1 weighs a little over 500lbs. and the BP mazda motor fully dressed weighs around 100lbs less. and you have the same power coming from the two motors. which would you choose? In motorsports shaving off 100lbs is a LOT of weight. and will make a huge difference.
I say, stick with what the car came with. It's better not only by reaching similar hp numbers but it weighs less
GUTSRacing 1 year ago
is that a nissan engine?
bryansciuk 1 year ago
@bryansciuk no that's the engine that comes in the Miata... Mazda NA engine.
Fallingup899 1 year ago
now i wanna play nfsu2 XD
xXCREEKSTARXx 1 year ago
sweet sound!!
E7Psalmsoftheplanets 1 year ago
wow, nice!
thefavs 1 year ago
Overkill
TheLordofShell 1 year ago
This car would easily beat a stock ls based engine. It would take at least an ls3 w/ head work and a cam to get near the 500whp level.
Granted the torque curve would be incredible, and the LS3 would likely be much more rugged being that cylinder pressures wouldn't be all that high and it'd be relatively low-strung engine running N/A compared to boosted 4 cyl.
I reckon you could make an easy 1kw rwhp with similar boost on a v8, but what's the point? 500 is more than enough in this car.
macktasticjoshflava 1 year ago
is that a 2jz stuffed in that
06crews 1 year ago
This car is sex.
squirrely911 1 year ago
you don't need much torque in a Miata...it doesn't weigh as much as a 3800pound muscle car. 2350lbs with a driver and 200rwtq and 500rwhp is more than enough and your 50/50 weight ratio wont be compromised.
metalicsupra 1 year ago
@metalicsupra let me correct myself, this miata makes 480rwtq HAWT DAYUM, you can say good bye to v8 conversions lol
metalicsupra 1 year ago
Hi all! Drift 510 it doesn't take much to make a Miata hit that mark, just think about the awesome creations from Lotus Elise, Exige they are 12 and low 13 second cars especially the Exige they get it done with 240 HP weighting less than 2000 pounds. I say put the Miata on a small diet target 1900-2000 pounds with 260 to 300 HP and 12 seconds should be easy The Miata community had been focused on road racing and SCCA glory rather than the drag strip is why we don't C more screaming miatas.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc ya they have one allsome motor it stupid that people down talk them and call them girls cars, a miata is a mans car, o and thanks
drift510ss 1 year ago
i have a question um how much hp is needed to git a miata in the 12's in a 1/4 mile? thanks :D
drift510ss 1 year ago
Ok Ok every1 is talking about the motor.
Thats way too simple. how was the chassis reinforced to handle that kind of power?? i mean from what i've heard those chassis can only handle upto 350 safely before starting to twist and bend ETC. i was wondering if u stuck to the famous butterfly braces, left it as is, or did ur own custom chassis reinforcement setup?
BiskitBasket 1 year ago
@BiskitBasket true but there is plenty of aftermarket and excellent companies that been there to support the Miata community for 20 years the Miata had been around with just about every part they could desire, we are a lucky crowd thanks to them. If any Miata sponsors are watching I want to say thanks a lot. As far as beefing up the chassis there are plenty of companies that offer bolt on chassis bracing, cages, roll bars, you name it, Boss Frog, Fat Cat Motorsports, Miata cage are just a few.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
Lots of myths about so called heavy American V-8's. The 427ci Vette motor is one of the best, if not the best sports car motor in the world. Hard to make an engine lighter and with more torque. Turbo-ed iron block in-line 4's end up just as heavy or heavier. The outer mode line of the Vette motor is smaller than a BMW V-10 and the chevy makes more torque at idle than the BMW does at peak torque.
zTheBigFishz 1 year ago
never put a v8 in a miata, that just ruins what its all about.
If you want a v8 just get a mustang, not a miata.
rtsoccerplayer 1 year ago
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iamxeddiex 1 year ago
@rtsoccerplayer I'm sure people told Carroll Shelby the same thing. That didn't stop him from putting a big engine in a little car.
MyOpinionMatterss 1 year ago
Lol revolution228 I just have to say this since you made it so simple power > pride. what about (plus a shit load of money invest with that v8 swap power > pride? Lol you have a miata just keep it na and go nuts on the corner xD
khicon47 1 year ago
my mx5 is much better, come n see. joesmx5turbo
Joesmx5 2 years ago
FE3 FTW! the bp is a great motor but if you want the jumbo version of the bp and its a drop in swap besides the trany... go FE3 that makes some pwr and stroke it to a 2.3 and bore to the 2.4 4cyl ! oh yeah
madtownmazda 2 years ago
No offense pez but most Miata engines had always been turbo friendly and ready in fact some of them come with a turbo oil feed line there is a plug on the side of these engines where you just remove and hey! there goes your turbo I got friends running 15 pounds of turbo with stock internal for years and no problems but just don't go beyond that. The first Miata engine originated from the turbo 323 in the late 80's.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 2 years ago 2
@MiamiMiataGroupInc Why is this offensive? Haha.
romanosalvatore 2 years ago
when mazda released the 96 miata its engine had stronger internals so it was better for boost apps. so just keep that.
hudg7630 2 years ago
@hudg7630 Make that 94 to 97 1.8 great turbo friendly engines.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc good call, i forgot to mention that. before that they had shit for rods.
hudg7630 1 year ago
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MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
it sucks because the 13b takes a ton of fab work with the engine and trans, if it worked there would be a ton of them around. If you had the money and the skill a 20b would be about as hard as the 13b motor in. As for V8s, this is a small roadster, a v8 is powerful but not really the image or the purpose the miata was built for. I say stick with a NB, build and turbo that. If you want to the msm engine and trans fit right into the 1gen chassis. I personally picked the NB built, keeps the fun.
STiRunner90 2 years ago 5
people said same thing about the shelby cobra......
beanersarepimps 2 years ago
Ls1's dont really weigh any more than a stock miata motor,,
thats why Gm made them from aluminum,
manta106 2 years ago
Just like this Miata, The best swap will be none LOL. keep the miata engine, Only 1990 and 91 engines were bad because of the weak crank nose but 92 and up this engines are bullet proof, no American V8 or V6 will be as reliable. Turbo charge the Miata engine and you got yourself a monster that is light with no compromise on balance and stability.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 2 years ago 34
No American V8 will be as reliable?? Where are we? the 1970s? Obviously you know nothing about modern V8s. And slapping a turbo on ANY engine will decrease its reliability.
Not only that, but most people don't swap engines for reliability. If they did, you would see a bunch of Pintos with Accord motors in them.
BTW, aluminium V8s are very comparible in weight as iron 4 cylinders.
EatPez 2 years ago
what he said is true. it's not saying american v8's are bad in any way, it's just that there are very few engines of any kind from ANY manufacturer that are as bullet proof as mazda BP series engines.
even with a turbo, as long as you have a good tune and don't go too much boost for the stock rods and pistons, they are extremely reliable. and if you wanna go big boost, all you have to do is get some forged rods/pistons and keep everything else stock.
shamp00p 2 years ago
Squeezing 530hp out of a 1.8L is going to keep it reliable? I've owed 5 GM cars in the last 7 or 8 years that had/have 300k+ miles on them and have never had major engine work.
I'm not saying a Mazda motor is better/worse for reliability (as I've also got a KLZE in my Probe GT), what I am saying is a 500+hp 4 cylinder isn't going to be reliabile at all, no matter the manufacurer, where MMG said that it is more reliable/lighter than an American engine, which is not true.
EatPez 2 years ago
i love my miatas B61P and BP05 but i have to say that he's right. my 1.6l motor shortblock (no accessories or manifolds) comes weighing to 335 pounds. a LS1 (corvette engine with no accessories or manifolds)
345 pounds. yeah i know incredible and think about the power. miata 1.6l L4 100WHP and 83ft lbs/torque at 5000RPM
5.7l V8 325WHP about equal amout of torque with very little RPM increase.
this is a no brainer people...
now its about power>pride.
you decide.
Revolution228 2 years ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc
1990 and 1991 were damn good miata engine, B6T from the GTX with B6T internal, they are better thant the 1992 and 1993 B6, they will also take more boost than a 1994-1997 BP with the stock internals !
already seen: 1990 B6 - TD04 with stock head, stock rods, wiseco pistons, MSPNP management -> 400whp dynocharted
AbsintheRTP 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc no american v8 will be as reliable??? your full of shit, the ls1's are way more reliable, and you dont have to rev the piss out of them to make power. no turbo lagg and tons of manageable horsepower/torque.
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe the ls series are great engines, i'm not gonna deny it. but you can't deny the miata engine isn't well built. the only reason the ls series is better is due to the 3 time bigger displacement than a miata engine. so if you scale the power output of an ls series engine down to a miata engine size, there putting out about the same.
hudg7630 1 year ago
@hudg7630 the miata engine is well built for its size, ill give you that. but the comment of no american v8 or v6 will be as reliable is total horse shit. the ls1 is alot more reliable, ive seen 250,000 mile stock ls1's with 150 shots still going strong. that comment = ricer. and the ls1 is also lighter then many 4 cylinders (ka24de, h22, etc)
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe oh yea i m not gonna argue that at all. i wasn't trying to say that it was better built than other engines. i mean if you take care of your engine it can last forever. it all comes down to how you treat your car, and i wasn't trying to argue it was more reliable than some engines. for example a 250,000 miles on a diesel engine is nothing.
hudg7630 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe Damn so the LS1 is the only worthy V8 engine Chevy has built? Sad for them. Please don't even talk about LT1 and stuff, while I never stop driving my Miata my neighbors never seem to stop wrenching their LT powered Camaros. While I have seen their Camaros return in tow trucks, in my 12 years of Miata ownership they have yet to see one of my Miatas come home that way.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc i said the ls1 is the best engine series that chevy has ever produced. please dont twist my words. i never mentioned a LT1 so i dont know why your bringing that into this conversation, but any idiot can ruin a perfectly good engine. do not underestimate stupidity... i was only speaking about the ls1, and yes it is an amazing engine that is why it is swapped into basically everything! how many people swap miata engines into other cars?? i dont know of any.
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe Easy they don't lust after the Miata engine because in stock form they are low HP and because they totally ignore the fact that they are awesome for turbo, not even a D or B series from Honda or the SRT20 can take boost as well and many don't even know what a miata is at all.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc people dont lust after it because A. turbo'd or not it still has a horrible powerband. B. has SHIT for aftermarket support (not even a 1/4 of the aftermarket for ls1 parts). C. i totally disagree with you, EVERYONE know what a miata is... its the most popular road racing chassis on this earth, and if you goto any track in this country (road course) you will see one.
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe Horrible powerband ? this is where your comment goes totally wrong. Mazda was wise enough 2 produce the perfect light weight roadster many have tried 2 imitate and failed miserably. Low on power means low cost and light weight it all works in wonderful harmony this means keeping the gears short 2 maximize power delivery all across the rev range. Shit aftermarket? Your ignorance reaches new level here. I doubt U own or even drove a Miata and honestly please stay away they are not 4 u
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc what does the power band of an engine have to do with the chassis being light weight? all 4 cylinders lack low end torque no matter what they are in. sure short gears will put a band-aid on the crappy power band, but it still doesnt have shit for low end torque... the miata chassis is a great 1 and i never argued that point, it is a great lightweight roadster. now when a miata puts down 536 rwhp it has about 250-300 ftlbs torque! that is NOTHING!!!
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe Yes sir please continue your ignorant arguments with someone else. One final note please stay away from miatas, you are better off driving a pathetic torque less and powerless honda Civic. You will be a disgrace to the Miata community owning one of this cars. C ya.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc why buy a torque less and powerless civic when i can get torque less and powerless miata and skull fuck an ls1 + t56 into it. then i have the best of both worlds. 500rwhp 460rwtq on 93 pump n/a on the stock bottom end sure beats 526rwhp and 200rwtq LOL
Fuku2hoe 1 year ago
@Fuku2hoe Actually the Miata has incredible aftermarket support.
Jackson Racing and Kraftwerk to name a few make supercharger systems for the Mazda Miata engines, Companies such as Flyin' Miata and Good-Win Racing make turbo kits using garret and turbonetics turbo chargers. Racing Beat, Borla, Tokico, Hotchkis, Ferrera, Fidanza, ACT, K&N, Tein, Brembo, Wilwood, etc just to name a few all make parts for the Miata. Just saying...
Tekerene338 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc the 90s and 91s were only bad when in the hands of bad mechanics. I had a 90 motor in mine, the pully was over tightened and there goes the crank. Now I have a 91 motor still short nose with 220k running real strong.... but id be lying if I said I didn't have a newer 1.6 with 30k miles on the side just in case ;-) lolol
j14mp 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc So you're honestly telling me that a Brad Anderson Enterprises top fuel dragster Hemi block won't be as reliable as a Miata's block, despite it being a forged aluminum block that can tolerate 8,000 horsepower, and send 2,300 pound dragsters down the strip in 4.5 seconds, at roughly 320 MPH? It's an American V8!
You fanboys need to get off of this "American cars are inferior" shit. True car guys give each brand and/or country it's deserved credit.
kcole939 1 year ago
@kcole939 agreed people get too into saying which is better there are assholes on both sides thinking what they got is better.... its pointless
knowsall101 1 year ago
@kcole939 This could be possibly the worst comparison I've ever heard. You are comparing a Top Fuel engine, which can't run at WOT for more than 10 seconds without overheating or blowing up to a Mazda engine (let alone ANY production car engine). Yeah, I wonder which one I'd have in my daily driver? LMAO
MyOpinionMatterss 1 year ago
@MyOpinionMatterss Sure, it's not a good comparison. Go read through the comments before you want to bitch about it, though. The guy said ANY American V8. Top Fuel dragsters cannot run for more than 10 seconds, right, do you know why though? The heat produced by 8,000 Horsepower destroys the spark plugs, and melts the multi-step clutch system completely together.
Nelson Racing Engines builds 1,500+ HP big blocks that you CAN drive daily, on pump gas. Check them out.
kcole939 1 year ago
@MyOpinionMatterss With all of that said, if you do not get the point by now, your brain is as worthless as used toilet paper. We were talking engine blocks, and how much power they can tolerate. Not daily driver cars, not how many miles they'll last.
I was discussing reliability as far as power goes. You know, how much power it'll produce before the fucking block it's self cracks. Go find me a 4.5 second Rotary powered car, any block whatsoever used, as long as it's a rotary.
kcole939 1 year ago
@kcole939 Excuse me, I meant any Mazda block. When I think of Mazdas, I automatically think of the rotary cars. Scratch that, any Mazda OEM style block.
kcole939 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc dangit i have a 90 enigne. guess i'll have to swap it out for a V8
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prebirth91 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc and plus, bragging rights, when you kick that american muscle's ass, just rub it in that you only got a 1.8 liter under the hood
rtsoccerplayer 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc I say you wanna swap it, then put a lightweight n/a rotary in there! it's so lightweight you may even end up with a 49/50 weight ratio :)
balitaSR 1 year ago
@balitaSR
49/50... you realize it has to be equal to a 100 right?
gjvah 1 year ago
@gjvah dont be a smart ass, you KNOW this was just a typo
balitaSR 1 year ago
@balitaSR lmao an LX series engine weighs roughly the same as your beloved rotaries and makes over 2x the power N/A lmao
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
wtf cunt are u on drugs?
"an LX series engine weighs roughly the same as your beloved rotaries and makes over 2x the power N/A lmao"
LS1 is 430 lbs. Source: hot rod
rated at 350 hp and 365 lb·ft
13b (non turbo), weight of the 13B rotary is 170lbs.
300hp can be found at the flywheel from a peripheral port (still n/a)
The1320Addiction 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc certain engines put in Miatas later in the year of 1991 were ok.
My 1991 has a long nose crank.
Last digits in VIN need to be 209447 or more and the vehicle should have came with a long nose crank. anything less should have came with a short nose crank.
docstruthers 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc I've got a 1990 miata, you think it won't take a turbo? How often failure of crank nose is seen in these?
Antipico 1 year ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc a 4 rotor would weigh less than a turbo BP and put out 750hp/500tq reliably with no turbo or SC.
JD0x0 1 year ago
@JD0x0 Whats the weight of the 4 rotor?
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a not sure of the exact figures but our iron block BP engines are rather heavy not to mention a turbo can easily add 100lbs after all that piping, the intercooler and the extra oil needed. A KL V6 would drop weight over the stock 4 cyl and I think the LSx V8 conversions only add about 50lbs with the transmission. The fact that the rotory engines are small keeps their weight down. The RENESIS in the RX8 weighs 247lbs. so im assuming a 26B is under 500lbs.
JD0x0 11 months ago
@JD0x0 Iron block is 300lb, turbo is roughly 50 lb with everything over the stock equipment. The 4 rotor on the other hand is small however is very thick iron as it tends to warp since it makes so much power. The Lemans 4 rotor was just over 400 lb dry and thats a tiny motor made for one race. Just one more question...where do you get a 4 rotor from anyways?
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a IIRC Someone weighed their BP engine and it was closer to 475lbs, they also had weighed a twin turbo 13b at 503lbs(rather heavy IMO) but the renesis is less than half that. I know group in New Zealand builds 4 rotors. Theres a group in New Jersey that i know build 3 rotor, not sure about 4 rotors, but I cant see why they wouldnt be able to. A 4 rotor Renesis would be even better than a 26B since mazda had fixed some issues and raised the compression from a measly 8:1 ratio.
JD0x0 11 months ago
@JD0x0 No sir, the 1.8 is only 300lb.
Triple88a 11 months ago
@Triple88a Did some searching can't find the pictures of the engines being weighed, but are you sure that 300lbs is with the transmission or just the engine itself? IIRC the engine was weighed with the 5 speed at a weight close to 475. But heres some interesting info apparently there are all aluminum 13B's being built and they weigh 110lbs. Yes thats not a typo wwwDOTrx8clubDOTcom/showpost.php?p=3335781&postcount=7 The 16x which will be in the RX9 is supposed to be all aluminum as well.
JD0x0 11 months ago
@JD0x0 just engines. I've never seen a 13b aluminum but either way not something you'll want to have if u want dependable. If you've ever seen the gumbal races... theres a rx7 in there making shit loads of power out of a rotary... the engine simply twists like a squeezed towel because it makes so much power.
Triple88a 11 months ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc miami miata group...idiot..."weak crank nose"...its the same damn thing just torque it right and dont put it on backwards when changing timing belt...stfu...but as for the pro miata comment....i agree
jamesnotnev 10 months ago
@jamesnotnev Let me guess and u R the smart one? Good for U. But having no class or education seems to be your true identity is just why you talk like that to total strangers, also the fact that you are in the internet and if u were in the street cursing people out you will have to eat your dirty words or they will dump your lifeless body in a river. Watch yourself Sir.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 9 months ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc 2jz is more reliable and these can only handle so much psi and hp before they come very very unreliable, how many 700hp 1.8l miata so you see? how many 700hp mustangs and supras and evo and shit do u see? yes the motor is a good but with the right parts the right tune and not to much power or psi this is a great, fun ass hell, light weight car but as far as saying no v6 or v8 is as reliable is just ignorance..
sofargone561 9 months ago
@sofargone561 You do know that 2JZ-GTE's have horrible weight balance, right? That's why most Supras have RB engines in them for track use. The only thing it's good at is for being a dyno-monster or drag machine.
wajalama 8 months ago
@wajalama ive never seen a supra with and rb in it that seems retarded to me i can understand not putting one in a miata because its so damn light but i cant see pulling a 2jz out of its home to put in a high maintence expensive ass rb
sofargone561 8 months ago
@sofargone561 For track use, like SuperGT.
wajalama 8 months ago
@wajalama oh ok gotcha well their isnt much track stuff around here everything is drag and drift and theirs still not to much of that i guess thats y i never see it
sofargone561 8 months ago
@wajalama That is wrong in so many ways. A Toyota team would NEVER put a Nissan engine in one of their race cars. Plus neither of those engines are even used in SuperGT. Saying "most Supras" is a gross overstatement.
Adam781 7 months ago
@Adam781 Hate to admit it, but they do :(
wajalama 7 months ago
@wajalama Name 1
Adam781 7 months ago
@Adam781 Top Secret has one.
wajalama 7 months ago
@wajalama Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about. That car was not part of JGTC/SuperGT. That's one of the only documented cases of the swap.
Adam781 7 months ago
@Adam781 Yeah, I was wrong about the SuperGt reference, but there are Supras with RB engines swapped into them. No need to be a dick.
wajalama 7 months ago
@wajalama Well then don't spread misinformation. It's is NOT a common swap. Probably as common as the RB is put in the RX7.
Adam781 7 months ago
@Adam781 Ok..?
wajalama 7 months ago
@wajalama there is also rb swap miata too whats the point?
mazdaspeed4life 7 months ago
@MiamiMiataGroupInc Yup mine has a turbo
SlimySnakeUK 9 months ago
haha probly a toyota 2jz lmao would be the best swap it has been done into an rx7 so why not the miata
spencerskate0 2 years ago
what would be the best motor to swap into a miata thats not rotary and not a v8??
maluchman1 2 years ago
Take the engine from the mazdaspeed 3/6. Heard they are pretty solid, and can easily tunable.
nyc35av 2 years ago
@nyc35av it is true.
romanosalvatore 2 years ago
@maluchman1 KLV6 from mazda. Supposed to be lighter than stock engine and it's got pretty good power. They also sound fucking awesome with ITB's. The swap is supposed to be relatively easy, and apparently there may be kits coming out to help make the swap more "bolt on"
JD0x0 11 months ago
I know someone who has a 600hp inline 4 turbo miata, thats with racegas.
PolishAlexx 2 years ago 3
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Do you suck his dick aswell?
bnz500 2 years ago
Cool story, bro.
fooschnickens 2 years ago
i just tot a 91 miata and is to slow. Somebody help me to see if i can get my car faster
ElRanger78 2 years ago
do a 13b swap or a Chevy V8 swap.
ElPicheGringo 2 years ago
Turbo it..... or v8 or 13b or even maybe a 20b swap....
badassxr50r 2 years ago
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how about reliable, easy to work-on S2000 motor-tranny swap?
trd88noz 2 years ago
intake it and itll have better throttle response and sound a ton cooler than the stock intake.... i have a 99
19mazda90man 2 years ago
get a cheap turbo kit from fm or begi. 2-3k and youll make 200+whp for 100k miles no problem.
Jmartin2683 2 years ago
...check out his build site. not bs
cococarbine 2 years ago
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That is the slowest revving 500whp car I have ever seen heard. It should have ripped through the gear once it spooled.. BS. Take it to the track.. run it down the 1/.4 show up a 10 sec time slip or FUCK OFF
Chltdsm 2 years ago
"T3/T04e50 and 32 miles per gallon freeway?"
YES! OPen loop baby!!! Your in Vacume while freeway cruising.. If you can't get 30 mpg with 4 cyl turbo with modern ECU tuning you need to just give it up.
My DSM runs 12.4@117 and gets like 36mph cruising back home from the dragway. Hell I use more gas in 4 1/4 mile passes than I do driving to the track..
Chltdsm 2 years ago 7
T3/T04e50 and 32 miles per gallon freeway?
cococarbine 2 years ago
if im right.and that turbo is as big as it looks.then yeah.he does have that much HP.but hes wasting a shit load of gas on it.and he has to be racing this car.or hes rich if he isnt.
Jon032391 2 years ago
Nice Masda dude. If you like to see some bad ass Masda's or tunners go or look into the Puerto Rico sports cars scene with 40+ years with imports presided by some bad ass 50's, 60's and 70's muscle cars, some are radical ticking bombs. Like So.California, Woodward ave. and the Long Island,N.Y. duels of the yesteryears. Peace
allrevup 2 years ago
Ouch that would be one fast Miata!
ceffydriver 2 years ago
1. how is this possible
2. what is in it?
giggidy2692 2 years ago
Its called a SR20DET, Its a Nissan engine that is a common engine swap for latter model 240sx's, but its rare in Miatas' because it requires alot more work. The SR20DET is easy to get to 400hp
bob333336 2 years ago
oh i know what an sr20 is lol, i just didnt think that waas what was in there, those engines are expensive lol
giggidy2692 2 years ago
That is a built Miata engine, not a SR20DET. What makes you even think that?? Don't post stuff when you don't even know what you're talking about...
cococarbine 2 years ago
Really? My b, dont need to get mad. But have you seen SR20DET Miatas? Their sick, lol :)
bob333336 2 years ago
haha yeah I can't even imagine... although this one's pretty sick too. This guy's pretty infamous at the miata website... search for eliminator77, he's got some cool info
cococarbine 2 years ago
nice convertion big money a bet well done++
mx5imports 2 years ago
still less than a new car....?
arizonaliteicedtea 2 years ago
Yes probably
Car = 1-2k
sr20det conversion = ~7k (might be a lil more)
Susupenion = 2k
Strutbar, brakes, rollcage, ect. = 1k
SR20DET parts = ~5k
(Raping a Ferrari in a Miata = Priceless)
(All Guestimations, correct me If im wrong)
Around ~18-20k spent after tax, and you get a fucking beast :D
bob333336 2 years ago
nice miat
dvaifilmsdotcom 2 years ago
damn dude..does it hook?
awesomeman09 3 years ago
Hey Chltdsm, maybe the reason they reved it up so slow is that they didn't want it to jump off the dyno. Ever thought of that?
MX5autoxer 3 years ago
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THat thing took like 12 seconds to spool up and get through whatever gear that was. I'm thinkin what 3rd? 4th gear even? Didn't look or sound like 500whp b/c it WASN'T. SOrry but here's a big ol BS flag for ya!. 500whp cars ( especially little high reving 1.8's ) don't take that long to get through any freakin gear. We know your upset you bought a miata but don't lie to the world about the power your not making. 1/4 time! . I want a VID and a time slip. If its not a low 11. Your a liar.
Chltdsm 3 years ago
Ever hear of a load dyno, you fuck?
ninjagod1337 3 years ago 3
Dude, just a word of advice, if you don't know what your on about .. Don't go on about it.. I'm not even gonna bother explaining to you how dynos work.. Just google it next time you wanna make stupid remarks about people and their cars.
miztamo 3 years ago