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  • I agree, Shomenuchi should definitely be seen as an armed attack. A knife, or perhaps more likely/contemporary.. A bottle.

  • Looks great. Only real problem is that you are really unlikely to get into a fight with anyone who will karate chop your skull, unless if you live in Okinawa or something.

  • its the art of the samurai so it is supposed to be defending against a tanto or knife thats coming down at the head

  • i could use the same technique also when your enemy have a knife.

  • same technique also when your enemy have a knife.

  • Any weapon but traditionaly the attacker would have been samurai with sword. Top of the head, round the side to the neck and a pucnch or thrust to the bellywould be where the attack are expected.

  • The thing I like the most about these moves is that you can change the amount of damage you do to your attacker depending on how violent they themselves are.

  • Yes, lets change all of Morihei Ueshiba's techniques while we're at it. After all that shows him all kinds of respect !! Right ?

  • I extremely dislike teaching in step-by-step processes. Teaching a student what exactly to do in a given situation could easily confuse the student if it plays out different in a self-defense situation. Now this doesn't apply to longer, complex forms since forms act as an encyclopedia of knowledge, where you have several varieties of attacks and defenses that become second nature with practice. I feel that the practitioner should acquire the essence of their style rather then a few applications

  • If someone is attacking with a shomen, they more than likely have a weapon (bottle, knife, stick, etc.). It's better to teach it the way it was meant to be taught, and that is to the head. Or else you'll have a student who is blocking a strike for real, thinking it will go to shoulder, and instead get knocked. Adapt to reality later once basics have been learned.

  • @mrrightwing1000 I agree with you. There is a reason that the moves are taught in a certain way. Find out what the motion you have a question about is first, then when you can do the original tech. correctly then learn the variations of the movments. Stop trying to out teach the masters

  • My sensei has like 18 years of experience and believe me with the right excersises your "soft part of the hand " gets hard as a hammer !!!

  • ANY ONE LEARNING AIKIDO REMEMBER!!!

    WHEN YOU ARE BRINGING THE PERSON DOWN MAKE SURE THEIR HAND IS AWAY FROM YOUR STOMACH. WHY? IF ATTACKER HAS A KNIFE YOU JUST STABBED YOUR SELF...

  • I think this won't work if somone tries to kill me because no one is as fast as he can block him if he strikes you from behind

  • I am a Karate practitioner (Ryukyu Kempo -1st Dan) and we also do not encourage strikes to the head even in kumite. The reason- the head hurts when you hit it. We instead like your self Sensei encourage strikes to the collar bone or neck area. I really enjoy your videos!

  • Shomeuchi Ikkyo is such a great basic technique, that variants of the technique are taught by my instructors (Ryukyu Kempo). We incorporate strikes after the lock, or actual joints breaks (which are very un-Aikido), but the technique is very effective against a variety of attacks in the "real" world.

    As an aside - love your videos Sensei! Keep posting more techniques!

    My background is in Aikido, then I studied Ryukyu Kempo, which I am still currently a 1st dan and an assistant instructor in.

  • ikkyo is the best aikido technique I think.

  • Ok, why "Shomen" strikes the top of your head is because Aikido was desinged to disarm samurai or whoever as well.

    "Men" which means forehead, is fast, basic and the most critical point to hit with your japanese sord in practice, not your soft hand. That is why.

  • a strike to the collar bone/neck area would be yokemenuchi

  • @UrMomzDED not exactly because shomenuchi is going strait down while yokemenuchi is more of a curved/hooking strike

  • @UrMomzDED

    idk.. i think a yokomenuchi strike would hit the clavicle at an angle far <90º and glance off. shomenuchi (as boaz sensei correctly teaches) could fracture the clavicle, whereas it would fracture the 5th metacarpal of the attacker if it made landfall on the forehead.

  • i really want to find a place that teaches aikido... anyone know any good dojos... well idk some people call them "studios" now, or so i've heard.. in the 352? well. Gainesville/ North-Central Florida region?

  • @UesugiVincentibanez

    both aikido schools of ueshiba (asu dot-org) and united states aikido federation (usaikifed dot-com) dojos teach traditional aikido with due respect to doshu authority (all dan levels are hombu recognized) but with the individual style of each instructor playing a part as well, a pattern set by O Sensei. the two are slightly different but both good - depends on your personal preference. check their websites for FL dojos. good luck!

  • Lex Luther

  • A karate fighter punches straight to the head , he may break your bones in one strike , so in aikido we learn to avoid his power and make it an advantage to make him loose his balance . It's aikido .

  • @eliazourosqw and it'd never work in the street.

  • @galpinman I've used ikkyo in the street and it work well, stopped me being punched.

    I took the attacker into an ikkyo on the openside like a gokkyo then into a tencan, the attacker was so shocked he didn't want to get up plus he had skinned his knees and one elbow.

  • The best ikkyo i've seen was done by saito sensei, it´s so good that it looks easy.

    And it doesnt look like none of this.... dance.

  • Ikkyo is one of the first techniques you learn because it`s part of the foundation. But it is not really basic. It`s probably one of the hardest to do right,like irimrnage.

  • It's really a basic and useful Aikido technique!

  • the AIKIDO is bassed in the three cuts of KATANA.

    THIS EXAMPLE IS FOR A SNIFE ATTACK, OR BOTTLE ATACK. DONT WORD IF DON`T YOU NOW

  • Question," why in the world would you strike the top of the opponent head?".........well, sir sensei it is because the strike was done with a weapon and not with an empty hand.

  • LOL! He is just stupid! :D

  • Pretty sure he knows that... Plus, it's pretty obvious that Aikido is an empty handed martial art designed for hand to hand combat (with some exceptions of course). Can you honestly say that an opponent is going to try to knife hand your forehead in a fight? A knife hand to the collar bone is a much more practical and realistic strike, plus you are still learning the technique.

  • You are right! That is insightful.

  • @24nordic That doesn't matter anyway the technique to deal with it will be the same just a little higher

  • @24nordic exactly what i was thinking. well said.

  • @24nordic haha that made me laugh when he said that

  • @24nordic

    Also there are four pressure points on your shomen: top of head, forehead, above your eyes but lower than forehead, and finally the jugular. If one would strike any of these points with enough force, one could and will kill a person. (EVEN WITH AN EMPTY HAND!!!)

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  • @24nordic ¬¬ You are a idiot (with respect) He said the strike with an empty hand on the head!! Not with a weapon, this is obviously ¬¬

  • @FabrizioBiondini

    ok,he can say whatever he wants, I think this move can be applicable with weapons ! like hammer or short stick,therefore I can apply the move against weapon, no problem at all.

  • @FabrizioBiondini With all due respect to fabrizzio and family, I never question the skills of this Sensei, I was simply pointing to a fact, that most of Aikido techniques were, and are dealing with a defense against weapons, and I thought that this(Sensei's)question about practicing against an empty hand would be redundant. Of course, I am an idiot(Domo)

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  • @24nordic Yeah.. you're right.

  • @24nordic

    So why don't they practice the strike with a weapon (even if it's just a rubber knife)? How can you learn how to defend against weapon attacks if you don't actually use weapons?

    Reminds me of my little brother... he spends all day on his 360 playing driving games and thinks he could actually drive a car.

  • @abbas224 you are correct on your analogy, it makes sense. However, I personally believe that the only way one can understand and teach properly on how to defend against weapons, is to be able to teach on how to do damage with such a weapon. Unfortunately, for most of us the traditional art of samurai is lost in the haze of history.

  • @24nordic aikido is for movies

  • @99XM like anything else, but you already know.Don't you?

  • i thought the two movements were called shomen uchi ikkyo 'ura' and shomen uchi ikkyo 'omote' =S

  • let me correct, the 'omote' & 'ura' are located in the shihonage technique...

  • This is on my first test

  • I thought that shomen attack is just a safe stylized replacement which causes less damage than a punch if it does land.

    But I can appreciate the collar bone approach as well.

  • Shomenuchi is not a knife hand strike in its self, it is an exercise to emphasise an overhead attach from a weapon held in the hand e.g. a sword, knife baton or even a bottle. He doesnt understand Aikido!

  • i always thought that you strike on the head because your hand is a replacement for a weapon.

    so the hand must been seen as a knife or something.

  • @jelcroo1 i think that the modern iterations of shomenuchi are 1) an overhead strike with a beer bottle, and 2) an overhead strike with a hammer. the first one is realistic; the second one is hollywood but possible.. (yokomenuchi could be a crowbar or a baseball bat.)

    imagining these helps me to recognize the seriousness of a shomenuchi attack in the real world and stay focused while training.

  • @jelcroo1 The strike to the top of the head is designed for training... You need to learn to deflect ideal strike to develop ideal technique... after that you may deal with a strike to the pants if you want it doesn't really matter.

    I dont like the idea of trying to make shomen uchi work like damaging attack. That's not its purpose. If I wanna damage someone I would hammer him in the nose why use knife hand ? It is very important to understad the idea of the thing you do.

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