well....i dont know whether this kind of comemntary( basketball or football style) can go well with Chess....it MAY help in creating some excitement for the spectators......maybe NOT.....!!
That riot ! Let's see ... This is obviously not a serious game, Maurice Ashley is not a clown, he is a recognized GM , and in this case he just try to give a touch of humor to the game . In my opinion this type of game , or rather shows , helping to popularize chess and make it more entertaining and fun. But I understand that not everyone likes ... Thank you all for watching !
I checked this out. He sought and was given to permission to comment directly over the game like this because there were a hundred kids in the hall and he wanted to make it interesting and at the same time educate the youngsters. It was also a fund-raiser that raised a huge amount of money for charity.
The game was a fundraising exhibition for Karpov. Those are two rich guys playing with Kasparov and Carlsen. It's all for fun and "that annoying commentator" is GM Ashley. He's there to support Karpov too. Karpov even shows up and talks himself. Some of you are making it seem like Ashley showed up uninvited to a serious match and just stood there talking. It's a fundraiser and all for show.
@blapgatify that is Maurice Ashley,the first african american GrandMaster;he always makes a great job commentating chess games as they were box matches.You should hear him on some of the videos of ChessNoir here in youtube, like the game of anand spends 1:43 min on blitz:P
The commentator is Maurice Ashley, the first African-American chess Grandmaster in history, this was just a friendly game and Maurice has a really nice approach to chess. He also did a few DVD's and he travels all around the world trying to promote chess in various countries. He is also a friend of Josh Waitzkin :)
Much respect to Maurice Ashley as a player, his accomplishments and what he's done for chess and the Harlem community, but no worthwhile chess match should have this kind of obnoxious OTB commentary, it's disruptive to the players. A "non-serious" match featuring two world-champion class players is still potentially worthy of future study, so they should at least be allowed to properly concentrate. This is as bad as it would be to announce in earshot of elite pro golfers while making a putt!
Doesn't the commentator know he can physically touch them. He's speaking of them as if he's watching them from a satellite view. Shut the fuck up. DAYUM!!
This is just for fun, guys. Relax! Anybody who thinks GM Maurice Ashley's commentary is annoying should think about how boring this would be without anyone commenting on the game. Maybe you're just boring people? He's making things more interesting. You need to realize that those two other guys are probably paying to play. There's probably money on this. Lots of money. There's a time and place for boring quiet serious chess. Think about the real life for a minute.
@junkyjuice21 Quiet, serious chess is boring? When players play at the best of their ability, without someone distracting them after every move, that is interesting. Did you ever consider that we are not boring, you are just rather eccentric?
@SteelPokemonFan You know you just completely missed the point of what I was saying. hahaha. Read my comment again. You just don't get it. You must realize that there are some people out there who think chess should be viewed as a sport. Dude, I love chess. I play it all the time and I read about it. People are bitching about the GM commenting on this EXHIBITION game. Take a hint.
@junkyjuice21 I'm saying that quiet and serious chess is not boring. I never said that chess shouldn't be viewed as a sport, chess is officially a sport so I'd be wrong if I said it isn't. I am glad that you love chess, and I'm sure you are an excellent player, but try reading my comment again.
Maurice Ashley hasn't done anything over the board in years. He should let the playing pros do exactly that, and let the commentators analyze after it's over.
(4:26) "He say gimme some o' deez young boys" I'm almost certain thats the first time I've heard that from a chess commentator since Anand vs Pedobear (2011)
LOL ha ha ha I know but still it sounds so silly to claim to be the first black/african american grandmaster (wich means you're the 1300th strongest player in the world) when at the same time their is a Indian (super)grandmaster in the top 5 of the world.
I understand it's convenient for him to be the 'first black grandmaster'. But to me it's as important as being the first african american who ate noodles using chopsticks,
Actually the challenge here is not against each other but on how can you concentrate with that kind of commentator and with a crowd swarming around you... Right?
I wouldn't like this for a proffessional game, like in a tournament. But it's nice to get the players reactions midgame like this. It was fun and engaging. It is a bit of pity Kasparov takes it too seriously .. but if you're going to lose no one better to lose to the world #1, who you've helped train! honestly, I thought Kasparov's style would benefit a less skilled player more, but surprisingly Carlsen's positional plays seemed to work out well with his partner.
i dont like the animating way of annotating chessgames in the usa in general. even though this annotater is a grandmaster. they talk as it if were wrestling or some ****. thats a honourful game of the mind, there is nothing superficial to annotate this way.
@zugzwang33060 Leaving your racial slur aside, I guess in an attempt to try and make it seem exciting to a wider audience. Tricky thing to do though with such a cerebral game.
@Averagebum2 lol @ "top." He barely got over 2500 once. Top US GMs would be Nakamura, Kamsky, Onischuk, and Seirawan (when he plays). Also we have some excellent players like Shulman.
if you not understand chess don't comment, many comments are just sick GRRRRRR
msn140 1 week ago
fucking american sports commentators!!! trying to get the adrenalin pumping from the start over a couple of insignificant moves.
americans have really become retarded cause of entertainment tv!
CT2507 1 week ago
"Give me some of these young boys." O.O
SamuelKGB 1 week ago 3
I doubt Bobby Fischer would like to play with this guy commentating right next to him xD
HRRAX 1 week ago 5
Carlsen is good but he will never be a legend like Kasparov.
JOTTABYTE 1 week ago 3
@JOTTABYTE ? Carlsen is a legend.
XImprove 1 week ago
@JOTTABYTE i totally agree!!!
msn140 1 week ago
A black man can make anything more spicy ! xD
rachidvH 2 weeks ago
why the fuck you commentate over a chess match...just fuck off and let em play
Kunglao63 2 weeks ago
This feels like a boxing match, kept wondering when/ who would punch first XD
1Deejay7 2 weeks ago
and that Chinese looking girl at 1.04 is HOT....! :))
Savarkar19 2 weeks ago
well....i dont know whether this kind of comemntary( basketball or football style) can go well with Chess....it MAY help in creating some excitement for the spectators......maybe NOT.....!!
Savarkar19 2 weeks ago
anatoly is old now ...wow
christfollower8902 2 weeks ago
Am i the only one that feels like punching him?
Tanmanata 2 weeks ago
That riot ! Let's see ... This is obviously not a serious game, Maurice Ashley is not a clown, he is a recognized GM , and in this case he just try to give a touch of humor to the game . In my opinion this type of game , or rather shows , helping to popularize chess and make it more entertaining and fun. But I understand that not everyone likes ... Thank you all for watching !
ItzoSpain 2 weeks ago 7
@ItzoSpain Should have been a top down view for the uninitiated though, not popularizing anything if they cant see
Enemir 1 day ago
Kasparov + Karpov === CHESS TITANS
dnv83 2 weeks ago
Poor kasparov, having to play with a mere human grandmaster. Every move his "partner" made was clearly making kasparov grimace.
janweltevreden 3 weeks ago
I checked this out. He sought and was given to permission to comment directly over the game like this because there were a hundred kids in the hall and he wanted to make it interesting and at the same time educate the youngsters. It was also a fund-raiser that raised a huge amount of money for charity.
janweltevreden 3 weeks ago
The game was a fundraising exhibition for Karpov. Those are two rich guys playing with Kasparov and Carlsen. It's all for fun and "that annoying commentator" is GM Ashley. He's there to support Karpov too. Karpov even shows up and talks himself. Some of you are making it seem like Ashley showed up uninvited to a serious match and just stood there talking. It's a fundraiser and all for show.
SuperJohnsonrod 3 weeks ago
lol. Just add some cheerleaders, hotdogs and beer, and we finally have become an official sport accepted by everyone/
ArtsewS 3 weeks ago
Lol karpov randomly hovering over the match
Mattslayerable 3 weeks ago
just standing there and talking funny bullshit allt he time haha he is a good chess player though
125lama 1 month ago
that commentator is a genius
hahahah
125lama 1 month ago
Lol commentator exploiting strategies throughout the game..
Deathseize 1 month ago
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Rboysblaster 1 month ago
I love this commentator. He's so funny.
blapgatify 1 month ago
@blapgatify that is Maurice Ashley,the first african american GrandMaster;he always makes a great job commentating chess games as they were box matches.You should hear him on some of the videos of ChessNoir here in youtube, like the game of anand spends 1:43 min on blitz:P
uchihadante77 1 month ago
Kasparov a pro shaking his head as if he's in a bad position and has to sacrifice his pawn lol
stanleyshuster 1 month ago
whoa... wtf why is the commentator right next to them?
darthclone7 1 month ago
The commentator is Maurice Ashley, the first African-American chess Grandmaster in history, this was just a friendly game and Maurice has a really nice approach to chess. He also did a few DVD's and he travels all around the world trying to promote chess in various countries. He is also a friend of Josh Waitzkin :)
Eustake 1 month ago 4
@Eustake
me being black.. I'm not gonna lie I was wondering how often you see that.
it was funny when he said"give me some of them young boys"....
No comment.lol
lopytube 3 weeks ago
Fisher would literally kick ass the commentator but Tal, I believe, would give an interview during the play.
MetalScull 1 month ago
I wonder who's table the commentator went to for the second game that was gonna be played o.O
StruckDownByThunder 1 month ago
What the hell is this professioal wrestling? Why the hell do we need a commentator?
KingGhidzilla 1 month ago
@KingGhidzilla Yeah its such a joke. You can tell he doesn't really know the game.
kkma1453 1 month ago
commentator no class at all
Pshoeshus 1 month ago
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Another funny thing is that Garry's partner is named Weinstein. Garry's born name is also Weinstein.
EGarrett01 1 month ago
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EGarrett01 1 month ago
BTW this video should be renamed "Chess commentator drives Garry Kasparov to near-murder by talking incessantly during his game."
EGarrett01 1 month ago 3
lol. It took 60 seconds for Garry to get mad at his partner.
EGarrett01 1 month ago
He says "i want some of these young boys" haha
stebrabakone 1 month ago
Warning:Mute and enjoy the game.
soulreaperichig0 1 month ago
commentator:huahehehehehehehe kasparov: Pig!
Carlson: definitely.
me:im Just kidding. :P
johlo05 1 month ago
lol if i was playing that game i would punch the commentator in the face
WOGI5M 1 month ago
shut the hell up fucking penguin, god is getting mad
Tomasovich15chess 1 month ago
Much respect to Maurice Ashley as a player, his accomplishments and what he's done for chess and the Harlem community, but no worthwhile chess match should have this kind of obnoxious OTB commentary, it's disruptive to the players. A "non-serious" match featuring two world-champion class players is still potentially worthy of future study, so they should at least be allowed to properly concentrate. This is as bad as it would be to announce in earshot of elite pro golfers while making a putt!
DJChrisBradley 1 month ago
stupid chess with a commentator ._.'
bestvitalic 1 month ago
hehe the commentator... always go for the simple stupid hollywood approach to everything... uhhhh pawn sac...uhhhh
Norseold 1 month ago
Doesn't the commentator know he can physically touch them. He's speaking of them as if he's watching them from a satellite view. Shut the fuck up. DAYUM!!
rocco7050 1 month ago
you can just tell their all so fuckin annoyed lol.
DianaVita0 1 month ago
next time keep the commentator in the commentary box
Wasabi561 1 month ago 2
will someone shut him up!. clearly he is dulled his blade.
goldenLUBE 1 month ago
commentator is a pain for both players
bandit1200k2 1 month ago
lol at the commentator's gay remark 04:53
dewert2 1 month ago
I'm glad to see chess commentators haven't caught on, that spook is fucking obnoxious
neurobio760 1 month ago
he said gimme some o dez young boiz lol
YsnipezYMw2 1 month ago
come on now, what is this?
MrMarjan8040 1 month ago
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Garry is thinking shut up bitch !
smashu2 1 month ago
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smashu2 1 month ago
This seems so weird. It's like having a commentator in your bed.
Oh no - it looks like he's got her pinned now! What will she do here to stave off this attack? Oh she sacrifices her virginity - and he's been MATED!
myrtlebox 1 month ago 39
@myrtlebox PLEASE if you not understand chess don't comment, ypour comment makle no sence grrrrr
msn140 1 week ago
@msn140 I understand chess very well. I understand humor even more.
Sorry if this offended you. It appears I am not alone with my sense of humor.
myrtlebox 1 week ago
kasparov must be saying:"anyone make him shut up....i need to think about what i m doing"
woolfgangmozrt20 1 month ago
i love the commentator
jacovc1986 2 months ago
I found this entertaining. I wish there was a clear visual of the board.
cupwithhandles 2 months ago
why is this cunt shouting
concept015 2 months ago
Karpov is thinkin "yeh i can whoop all you bitches"
DiceEsque 2 months ago 3
Kasparov takes everything so seriously, including frivolous games at social events, it seems.... which is what makes Ashley's commentary so amusing!
Hey Garry, LIGHTEN UP...even Karpov has a chuckle now and then.
oldoddjobs 2 months ago
"He said gimme some of these young boys" WTF
Pwn777 2 months ago 2
This is just for fun, guys. Relax! Anybody who thinks GM Maurice Ashley's commentary is annoying should think about how boring this would be without anyone commenting on the game. Maybe you're just boring people? He's making things more interesting. You need to realize that those two other guys are probably paying to play. There's probably money on this. Lots of money. There's a time and place for boring quiet serious chess. Think about the real life for a minute.
junkyjuice21 2 months ago
@junkyjuice21 Quiet, serious chess is boring? When players play at the best of their ability, without someone distracting them after every move, that is interesting. Did you ever consider that we are not boring, you are just rather eccentric?
SteelPokemonFan 2 months ago
@SteelPokemonFan You know you just completely missed the point of what I was saying. hahaha. Read my comment again. You just don't get it. You must realize that there are some people out there who think chess should be viewed as a sport. Dude, I love chess. I play it all the time and I read about it. People are bitching about the GM commenting on this EXHIBITION game. Take a hint.
junkyjuice21 1 month ago
@junkyjuice21 I'm saying that quiet and serious chess is not boring. I never said that chess shouldn't be viewed as a sport, chess is officially a sport so I'd be wrong if I said it isn't. I am glad that you love chess, and I'm sure you are an excellent player, but try reading my comment again.
SteelPokemonFan 1 month ago
That black guy is incredibly annoying!
Perkaholic1 2 months ago
@Perkaholic1 That "black guy" happens to be a chess Grandmaster.
junkyjuice21 1 month ago
Bobby Fischer would never permitted this behaviour
frrrran 3 months ago 55
@frrrran he was so creepy in that aspect
chesspy89 1 month ago
@frrrran He would have, . . . . . .for 100 million dollars!!
janweltevreden 3 weeks ago
@janweltevreden No, even for that he wouldn't have.
SteelPokemonFan 2 weeks ago
@SteelPokemonFan Ok, then 200 million dollars . . . .
janweltevreden 2 weeks ago
is this a joke?
ElectricTigerFart 3 months ago 2
What, they couldn't get Madden to do the commentary?
Knight to C4 and BOOM the Black King is in full retreat Pat!!!
Actually, the announcer didn't bother me as much as the lack of a board-cam to let us know WTF was actually happening.
KwamiFabu 3 months ago 4
@4:20-5:10 Best advertisement for American taste and intelligence. Morons!!
VVKY10 3 months ago 2
fuck this nigger, why didn't they call jerry?
benacostian 3 months ago
@benacostian This "nigger" is Maurice Ashley you fucktard.
He has a FIDE rating over 2500 and is a Grand Master.
Now stop trolling scumbag...
VictumRoManius 1 week ago 3
lol. he commentating like it's football or something
lemoyo 3 months ago 2
That commentator does my nut!
Sorkara123 3 months ago
did the black guy just call Karpov a horse??
Hazedream 3 months ago 3
That commentator is why there are so few black masters.
YesPepsiDicing 3 months ago
wanted to watch,cant take him any longer.
mrrobinson1999 3 months ago
BISHOP TO E3,my goodness,stop.
mrrobinson1999 3 months ago
Maurice Ashley is the BEST!!!
squathacker 3 months ago
Kasparov vs Carlsen are monsters at this game.
inemtsev 3 months ago
Kasparov jak "Mitch" z "Showtime"- nie lubi kamer i lektora gdy gra w szachy xD
okomuchy 3 months ago
Maurice Ashley hasn't done anything over the board in years. He should let the playing pros do exactly that, and let the commentators analyze after it's over.
ImprovingSkill 3 months ago
For god sakes have anyone ever heard of a Chess commentator?
How dumb xD
Chess needs thinking and a quiet environment, not an annoying soccer commentator screaming on your ear every second.
iHateMyLifeGr 3 months ago 3
@iHateMyLifeGr looool
kevinqa 3 months ago
that guy is basically screaming in there ear
phillyshell94 3 months ago
Omfg, STFU damn commentator!
sweYoda2 4 months ago
(4:26) "He say gimme some o' deez young boys" I'm almost certain thats the first time I've heard that from a chess commentator since Anand vs Pedobear (2011)
jefrix 4 months ago
How flippin' annoying. I'd tell that guy to shut it.
LibertyResolute 4 months ago 2
Aha, the commentator? Really?
He seems to be more suited as a Drum & Bass MC rather than a professional chess commentator.. "He's on fire" Ahaha...
GeneralZod93 4 months ago 4
@GeneralZod93 LOL
mycatrox 3 months ago
lol it's pretty clear that kasparov's annoyed as hell with the commentator xD
calidude146 4 months ago 29
@calidude146 LOL!
IStehSHIT 1 month ago
@calidude146 lol yah... what an idiot commentator to pick for a game like chess. Obviously the guy has no clue about the game
Kingsamuelson 1 month ago
its just the matter of time before the next racist comment
jekobpl 4 months ago
Not every game has to be deadly serious. Look, they're laughing and enjoying themselves.
Though Kasparov is naturally as humourless as ever.
oldoddjobs 4 months ago
ha ha maurice ashley... so funny!!!
edpratomo 4 months ago
god I wish that I was deaf after watching this video
tarudew 4 months ago
KARPOV FTW!
SuperUnknownXD 4 months ago
Kasparov is pissed and Karpov is smiling XD
SuperUnknownXD 4 months ago
"And already Garry is shaking his head in this position, AND HE SACRAFISING A PAWN Riiiight away in the beginning of the game"
*Garry thinks about shoving a bishop in the commentators eye, ear or what ever*
SuperUnknownXD 4 months ago
The guy is Maurice Ashley, the first black GrandMaster.
AjedrezEnEspanol 5 months ago
@AjedrezEnEspanol
Oh damn, it is, isn't it?
CodyRockLee13 4 months ago
@AjedrezEnEspanol
No he is not. Anand, the WORLD CHAMPION!!!!!!! is also BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he became a grandmaster like 15 YEARS!!!!!!!!! Before him.
So please stop this yankeedoodle first black grandmaster bullshit.
MyPopiejopie 4 months ago
@MyPopiejopie Oh you... when i was saying about black, I meant to say African American. Of course Anand is also black, but he's ethnic hindi.
AjedrezEnEspanol 4 months ago
@MyPopiejopie
LOL ha ha ha I know but still it sounds so silly to claim to be the first black/african american grandmaster (wich means you're the 1300th strongest player in the world) when at the same time their is a Indian (super)grandmaster in the top 5 of the world.
I understand it's convenient for him to be the 'first black grandmaster'. But to me it's as important as being the first african american who ate noodles using chopsticks,
MyPopiejopie 4 months ago
This nigga is kibitzing all of the moves...!
Kasparov goes, "yo, shut tha fuck up!"
BlackSN8K 5 months ago
who gave this guy a microfone? He thinks this is a football game. Shut up man!
cacasarq 5 months ago
"give me some of these young boys.. " LOL
TheSurvivorjunkie 5 months ago
Actually the challenge here is not against each other but on how can you concentrate with that kind of commentator and with a crowd swarming around you... Right?
prosanto111 5 months ago 5
Dang how can someone concentrate with Maurice Ashley there?
Apoic123 5 months ago
I lol'd when Karpov just appeared from nowhere
Borostiliont 5 months ago
Because of Kasparov's genius mind , no normal people can apprehend with his style of play.
Aang4Katara 5 months ago
Who are these 2 patzers kaspen and carlsov ar playing with ?
kinggambitabc 6 months ago
"Play Nd2 and win!"
alexanderswr 6 months ago
I wouldn't like this for a proffessional game, like in a tournament. But it's nice to get the players reactions midgame like this. It was fun and engaging. It is a bit of pity Kasparov takes it too seriously .. but if you're going to lose no one better to lose to the world #1, who you've helped train! honestly, I thought Kasparov's style would benefit a less skilled player more, but surprisingly Carlsen's positional plays seemed to work out well with his partner.
jilow 6 months ago
que pesado ese negro esclavo
catto000 6 months ago
mute this vid , mix this with keep talking pink floyd or your favorite song
it would be an honor to play kasparov
stig422 6 months ago
Weird by funny stuff, I like the unorthodox commentator. What's his name?
RedneckkRudy 7 months ago
@RedneckkRudy Ashley Maurice i believe but iam not sure^^
klonout 7 months ago
karpov is enjoying the crap
Rookycastle22 7 months ago
LOL @ 4:28
nicocola1 7 months ago
i dont like the animating way of annotating chessgames in the usa in general. even though this annotater is a grandmaster. they talk as it if were wrestling or some ****. thats a honourful game of the mind, there is nothing superficial to annotate this way.
tayrone2001 7 months ago
Wow, this is great. I shat my pants laughing.
mmasny 7 months ago
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MsExcusa 8 months ago
Who s idea is that? Commentary on chess like a football match.. I ve seen a similar chess commentary on eurosport channel. Annoying..
lemyensur 8 months ago
the commentary is simply ridiculous...lmao
DrLasker1 8 months ago 2
this style of commentary ruins the game, especially when the players can hear
zizouboy2 8 months ago 4
kasparov hating this!
newton296 8 months ago
Karpov clearly doesn't talk jive :)
Seanus32 8 months ago
Got to give these guys credit for putting chess in the public arena. These CEO people could help the future of chess - we need them.
mischatal 8 months ago
I'm sorry, but shut this black guy up
timothy51886 9 months ago
10 dollars says Kasparov wanted to shove a bishop in to the commentators ear.
subtle0savage 9 months ago 81
@subtle0savage - I'll see your bet and raise you a thousand that Kasparov wanted to put that bishop in an even more embarrASSing location. ;-)
SpookyVid 8 months ago
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iDraw3G 7 months ago
@subtle0savage into his azz man..
fagri81 5 months ago
Garry Kasparov's prior last name was also Weinstein XD The irony!
megaton12 9 months ago
@megaton12 Oh, I was gonna say before looking down. Great minds think alike :)
Seanus32 8 months ago
last time I saw a tag team this exciting, ... it featured Charlie Sheen and Ginger Lynn!
kingarthurup 10 months ago
i wish i was smart enough to play chesss for living it would be awesome!
druglover200 10 months ago
kasparov is so amazing and profesional...even for this exhibition game, he took it seriously
nataschmidtt 10 months ago
This is making me sick!! shut the fuck up!!
zugzwang33060 10 months ago
Man!!
zugzwang33060 10 months ago
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zugzwang33060 10 months ago
@zugzwang33060
he isnt a nigger his shit is the same that comes out your mothers ass smell it its the same
blackoil911 10 months ago
@zugzwang33060 Leaving your racial slur aside, I guess in an attempt to try and make it seem exciting to a wider audience. Tricky thing to do though with such a cerebral game.
firestartertwistedfi 9 months ago
@zugzwang33060 Why is a mental shit stain like you watching chess? This game is for intelligent people.
Cawby 9 months ago 11
he talks because its not a serious but a fun game that is supposed to be entertaining and exciting. so shut up and get a girlfriend.
genauder 11 months ago 3
i would've told that announcer to shut up, if im tryin to think of my next move i wont need him announcing it, its pretty damn obvious lol
Warluv99 11 months ago
that black guy needs to shut up
17marzi 11 months ago
So epic when Karpov showed up
spicytuna64 1 year ago 3
Why is this annoying creep keep talking?
tgiatgiatgia 1 year ago
@tgiatgiatgia The annoying creep happens to be Maurice Ashley, a top GM in the US.
Averagebum2 11 months ago
@Averagebum2 lol @ "top." He barely got over 2500 once. Top US GMs would be Nakamura, Kamsky, Onischuk, and Seirawan (when he plays). Also we have some excellent players like Shulman.
Crabitat 11 months ago
@Crabitat :)
Averagebum2 11 months ago
Magnus and Kasparov are probably thinking to themselves shut the fuck up!
djhiphop23 1 year ago 2
weirdest match ever!!!!!!! Kasparov wasnt very happy
5javi5 1 year ago
@5javi5 agreed, chess is a quiet game, no wonder kasparov was pissed, i would be pissed too
17marzi 11 months ago