@4640jds, spot on! Contrary to what's stated in the dodgy script for this film had Little Round Top been lost to the dung crunchers it would not have resulted in the South winning the battle. There were considerable reinforcements available to Meade that were quite nearby. The battle, as you noted, had already been won elsewhere, and, as you also noted, Lee's handling of this campaign was shite. Well done. Cheers!
Chamberlain was a great man, but the two men who had the biggest hand in helping secure a victory in this battle for the Union were Buford and Warren. Have to do the research. Oh yeah, Lee helped some too!
RaymondETV, thank you for your postings. These guys that sound like little girls complaining of who said what, if you don't like it don't watch. Post your own and make the perfect one with your name on it. I don't see your name with a thank you for Mr. RaymondETV. It sounds like you guys watch The View.
Professor of Classics at Bowdoin College, Chamberlain was severely wounded later in the war, yet survived to become President of the College after the war.
Props to them for holding the hill, but Chamberlain didn't actually order a charge. He wanted to "swing like a door", but he wanted to basically form an L-shape ambush. If this had happened, they would have been flanked. Spears, one of Chamberlain's officers, in charge of the left flank lost control, misunderstood, or knew the plan wouldn't work, and the left flank charged. So Chamberlain charged the rest of his regiment. So, to answer Sto up there, Spears, actually, saved the battle (not war)
@reenactor19th Sorry to contradict you, but Chamberlain did order the charge. From his report of the day: "At that crisis, I ordered the bayonet. The word was enough." While battlefield conditions make it unlikely that many men heard Chamberlain's order, most historians believe he initiated the charge.
@elarrebat Do not apologize for contradiction, sir. However, if you may permit me to respond. Chamberlain submitted two after-action reports as he was asked to re-submit his first report. You refer to his second report. In the first, he states explicitly (and underlines) that he ordered a charge. However, this is struck from the second report and replaced with the phrase you quote. Chamberlain reports his command as advancing the left flank in a "right-wheel forward".
@elarrebat Also, there is evidence that it was a Lt. Melcher's idea to advance forward to where some of the 20th Maine lay buried. He asked Chamberlain for permission. Chamberlain agreed that he would advance the regiment. Once the left wing more-or-less came on line with the regiment, they entire regiment charged. Other 20th Maine veterans say that they charged out of frustration rather than orders. Also, neither the 20th Maine were firing...
@elarrebat as Chamberlain states in his first report that their ammunition had failed. The after-action report of the commander of the 15th Alabama also states that they were advancing without firing so as to shield their depleted numbers. Therefore, with little actual firing, it is likely that if a command to charge was given it would more than likely have been heard. Yet, outside of Chamberlain's later accounts, this command is not mentioned.
@elarrebat Finally, Chamberlain did have a habit, especially later in life, of embellishing the events. This, of course, is understandable as numerous memoirs by prominent figures of this time were exaggerated. As a man who prized precise language, one must wonder why Chamberlain changed his report from explicitly ordering a charge to ordering 'fix bayonets' (a command that is corroborated in other reports.)
@reenactor19th One must give unto caesar what is caesar's, and you Sir definitively know your History very well. Thank you for such an excellent and adequated response. It has been a pleasure to learn from those who know better than oneself. I will keep learning more about those details of the great history of the American Civil War. Just one more thing: I was wandering, why then (if the order was never given by Chamberlain) did they all charge at the same time? As it was later reported
@elarrebat An excellent question. And one that I don't have an answer for. But I will see what I can find. Also, I must stress for other readers that, whether or not Chamberlain gave the explicit order to charge, he led one of the greatest defenses in the annals of American military history. However, I will see what I can find regarding your question. Again, it is a very good one.
@stalinwasright Oh look, another retarded redneck that is still fighting the war. If they were cowards they wouldn't have been able to hold that hill now would they? You mouth breathing sister humper. Shouldn't you be brushing your one remaining tooth?
Jeff Daniels play the part of Col. Joshua Chamberlain perfectly and did a great job. Chamberlain is an american hero and should be recognized as such in schools. Enough of the bullshit about general lee. Chamberlain is the icon of the civil war
joshua chamberlain deserves to be as commonly known as grant or lee. this one brilliant idea may just have been what saved the united states. had little round top fallen the union line would hae fallen and gettysburg would have been lost and the union lost the war. this movie needs to be shown in every school and nothing about jfk and marilyn or the "contributions" of muslims and transsexuals to our country.
5:47 "And how are you, Colonel, darling, this fine day?" What an amazing statement. I wonder if the battle ended the way it is depicted. Did Chamberlain truly order a bayonet charge that worked?!?! Maybe. It certainly had two enormous things in its favor. 1. surprise. And 2. Charging from the higher ground into already very tired Confederate troops.
The action on Little Round Top that day not only prevented the Confederate Army from from turning the Union right flank, but also prevented a major Union disaster. Lee did not have enough men to turn the Union right flank. The best Lee could have hoped for was gain the high ground, place artillery of his own and layed down a bombardment of the Union positions below. The Union Army would have realligned and the battle would have continued.
"Daring heroism and great tenacity in holding his position on the Little Round Top against repeated assaults, and carrying the advance position on the Great Round Top. " is the citation on his well deserved Medal of Honor...
would any of u believ me if i told u that before the war, Col. Joshua Chamberlain (The guy that ordered the charge) was a collage professer before the war?
@metalrocker627 I don't know about the whole world but this battle and the disaster of Pickett's charge ruined the Confederacy's best chance of winning the war.
the man who saved the union. if the line had collapsed and the south had won the battle the war would have been over. they should teach more about him. the most dramatic scene i ever saw in a movie. and its real. when i hear him scream out Bayonets! i feel it. a great american hero. at appomattox he returned the sword of surrender and treated his defeated enemy with honor and respect. a true man.
@theskippa10 That is somewhat disparaging. He admitted in a speech that, " to tell the truth, the order [to charge with bayonets] was never given, or but imperfectly." Consensus, however, is that it wasn't Melcher's call. From what I can gather, Chamberlain appears to have seized the moment.
@Sto20784 Actually General Custer may have singlehandly won the war. When Pickett's charge happened, it was actually a two-fold attack by the Confederates. It was done more as a distraction so Jeb Stuart's Calvary could pass by the Union right flank and attack the rear. If it wasn't for Custer's Calvary holding that flank against their numerous charges, the Union flank would have collapsed and the Confederates would have probably won the battle of Gettysberg.
20th Maine has to be one of my favorite regiments in the civil war era
pizzaboy902 2 weeks ago
@4640jds, spot on! Contrary to what's stated in the dodgy script for this film had Little Round Top been lost to the dung crunchers it would not have resulted in the South winning the battle. There were considerable reinforcements available to Meade that were quite nearby. The battle, as you noted, had already been won elsewhere, and, as you also noted, Lee's handling of this campaign was shite. Well done. Cheers!
kw19193 3 weeks ago
Chamberlain was a great man, but the two men who had the biggest hand in helping secure a victory in this battle for the Union were Buford and Warren. Have to do the research. Oh yeah, Lee helped some too!
4640jds 1 month ago
at 9:04 on the right hand side of the screen it looks to be a guy with white baseball cap, blue jeans and a denim jackets
BrandonDeathThrash84 1 month ago
And you did a great job with the commentary of this vid...but I must add one correction...yes, I know, lol, but it's the only part that bugs me, lol.
When the Union soldier says"I've been moving these rebs on an empty musket"...Chamberlain replies "Not so loud"....other than that, a great vid, =)
vlotom 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@vlotom ok and thanks :)
RaymondETV 2 months ago
RaymondETV, thank you for your postings. These guys that sound like little girls complaining of who said what, if you don't like it don't watch. Post your own and make the perfect one with your name on it. I don't see your name with a thank you for Mr. RaymondETV. It sounds like you guys watch The View.
myheavenly1 2 months ago 3
@myheavenly1 thank you very much! :)
RaymondETV 2 months ago
Professor of Classics at Bowdoin College, Chamberlain was severely wounded later in the war, yet survived to become President of the College after the war.
lebarosky 3 months ago
Joshua Chamberlain, definitely, my favorite hero of the Civil War
elarrebat 3 months ago
Props to them for holding the hill, but Chamberlain didn't actually order a charge. He wanted to "swing like a door", but he wanted to basically form an L-shape ambush. If this had happened, they would have been flanked. Spears, one of Chamberlain's officers, in charge of the left flank lost control, misunderstood, or knew the plan wouldn't work, and the left flank charged. So Chamberlain charged the rest of his regiment. So, to answer Sto up there, Spears, actually, saved the battle (not war)
reenactor19th 4 months ago
@reenactor19th Sorry to contradict you, but Chamberlain did order the charge. From his report of the day: "At that crisis, I ordered the bayonet. The word was enough." While battlefield conditions make it unlikely that many men heard Chamberlain's order, most historians believe he initiated the charge.
elarrebat 3 months ago
@elarrebat Do not apologize for contradiction, sir. However, if you may permit me to respond. Chamberlain submitted two after-action reports as he was asked to re-submit his first report. You refer to his second report. In the first, he states explicitly (and underlines) that he ordered a charge. However, this is struck from the second report and replaced with the phrase you quote. Chamberlain reports his command as advancing the left flank in a "right-wheel forward".
reenactor19th 3 months ago
@elarrebat Also, there is evidence that it was a Lt. Melcher's idea to advance forward to where some of the 20th Maine lay buried. He asked Chamberlain for permission. Chamberlain agreed that he would advance the regiment. Once the left wing more-or-less came on line with the regiment, they entire regiment charged. Other 20th Maine veterans say that they charged out of frustration rather than orders. Also, neither the 20th Maine were firing...
reenactor19th 3 months ago
@elarrebat as Chamberlain states in his first report that their ammunition had failed. The after-action report of the commander of the 15th Alabama also states that they were advancing without firing so as to shield their depleted numbers. Therefore, with little actual firing, it is likely that if a command to charge was given it would more than likely have been heard. Yet, outside of Chamberlain's later accounts, this command is not mentioned.
reenactor19th 3 months ago
@elarrebat Finally, Chamberlain did have a habit, especially later in life, of embellishing the events. This, of course, is understandable as numerous memoirs by prominent figures of this time were exaggerated. As a man who prized precise language, one must wonder why Chamberlain changed his report from explicitly ordering a charge to ordering 'fix bayonets' (a command that is corroborated in other reports.)
reenactor19th 3 months ago
@reenactor19th One must give unto caesar what is caesar's, and you Sir definitively know your History very well. Thank you for such an excellent and adequated response. It has been a pleasure to learn from those who know better than oneself. I will keep learning more about those details of the great history of the American Civil War. Just one more thing: I was wandering, why then (if the order was never given by Chamberlain) did they all charge at the same time? As it was later reported
elarrebat 3 months ago
@elarrebat An excellent question. And one that I don't have an answer for. But I will see what I can find. Also, I must stress for other readers that, whether or not Chamberlain gave the explicit order to charge, he led one of the greatest defenses in the annals of American military history. However, I will see what I can find regarding your question. Again, it is a very good one.
reenactor19th 3 months ago
@stalinwasright Oh look, another retarded redneck that is still fighting the war. If they were cowards they wouldn't have been able to hold that hill now would they? You mouth breathing sister humper. Shouldn't you be brushing your one remaining tooth?
Schlange556 4 months ago
@stalinwasright Itr Holloywood numbie ........
ernstbecker1 4 months ago
I heard that the guy who misfired at Chamberlain in the movie actually fired a shot in reality but just missed...
Zucc60 5 months ago
"The pistol", your prisoner Sir". It apepars to be a Le Motte? Anyone ..........
ernstbecker1 5 months ago
@ernstbecker1 Le Matte .........
ernstbecker1 5 months ago
After watching this everyone from Maine should be proud in themselves
crackshack2 5 months ago
Jeff Daniels play the part of Col. Joshua Chamberlain perfectly and did a great job. Chamberlain is an american hero and should be recognized as such in schools. Enough of the bullshit about general lee. Chamberlain is the icon of the civil war
bozerabc123 6 months ago
@bozerabc123 you are right, Jeff Daniels played this part majestically, brilliant performance, utterly convincing.
corcaighrebel 6 months ago
joshua chamberlain deserves to be as commonly known as grant or lee. this one brilliant idea may just have been what saved the united states. had little round top fallen the union line would hae fallen and gettysburg would have been lost and the union lost the war. this movie needs to be shown in every school and nothing about jfk and marilyn or the "contributions" of muslims and transsexuals to our country.
nomadnametab 6 months ago
Whoose braver, those attacking uphill, or those downhill, which side are on? Great movie
dustysailor1 6 months ago
5:47 "And how are you, Colonel, darling, this fine day?" What an amazing statement. I wonder if the battle ended the way it is depicted. Did Chamberlain truly order a bayonet charge that worked?!?! Maybe. It certainly had two enormous things in its favor. 1. surprise. And 2. Charging from the higher ground into already very tired Confederate troops.
VrgniaMailman 7 months ago
@VrgniaMailman yesh dat how it happened
MRBIGZB12 7 months ago
The action on Little Round Top that day not only prevented the Confederate Army from from turning the Union right flank, but also prevented a major Union disaster. Lee did not have enough men to turn the Union right flank. The best Lee could have hoped for was gain the high ground, place artillery of his own and layed down a bombardment of the Union positions below. The Union Army would have realligned and the battle would have continued.
mountainstandardtime 7 months ago
BAYONNNNNNNETTTTTTS
KWCline91 7 months ago
"Daring heroism and great tenacity in holding his position on the Little Round Top against repeated assaults, and carrying the advance position on the Great Round Top. " is the citation on his well deserved Medal of Honor...
TheHachmom 7 months ago
would any of u believ me if i told u that before the war, Col. Joshua Chamberlain (The guy that ordered the charge) was a collage professer before the war?
JRYStudios1 7 months ago
6:36 "The army was blessed." What a great moment/line!
njdevils613 8 months ago
This is the best part of the movie
bleachmon1 8 months ago
@RaymondETV I wasn't trying to bust your chops. GREAT video!
oheady6531 8 months ago
The Command is not Draw Bayonets . It is Charge Bayonets.
oheady6531 8 months ago
@oheady6531 already said but i made a few mistakes when making the subtitles for this video so yeah thats that
RaymondETV 8 months ago
@oheady6531 Look at you commanding general of youtube.
cwood4ever 7 months ago
The battle that decided the fate of the world
metalrocker627 9 months ago
@metalrocker627 I don't know about the whole world but this battle and the disaster of Pickett's charge ruined the Confederacy's best chance of winning the war.
TOCR815 8 months ago
I was named after Chamberlain!
catsareweapons 9 months ago
Im so Damn pround Colonel Chamberlain is an American!!!
ComfortableLate 9 months ago
the command was "charge bayonettes." It still is in the USMC.
jggrow 9 months ago
Chamberlain whispers "Not so loud", not "that's allowed" to the soldier that says he is moving the rebs with an empty musket.
rjsocash 9 months ago
@rjsocash listen i made a few errors with creating the subtitles sorry :(
RaymondETV 9 months ago
@RaymondETV Oh no that's fine, just trying to help. Great video thought thank you for uploading it :)
rjsocash 9 months ago
@RaymondETV you're not the only one. I've got the DVD, and "That's Allowed" is on it as well.
ajd1211 7 months ago
@RaymondETV
You have done a damn fine job!.
As I say to those that critisize, "If you think you can do better, then go right ahead".
It always shuts them up.
twinstu50 5 months ago
@RaymondETV What mistakes? That's how they appear on the DVD dude. Whomever made the subtitles for the DVD is the asshole that fucked up.
jrs689 4 months ago
@jrs689 your right i didn't make the subtitles, sorry to whoever asked me about it first .... im a lying a-hole :..(
RaymondETV 4 months ago
Men with balls.
antonoine31 9 months ago
I love the way the guy says "BAYONETS!!!!!" his face turns red lol
WoodyMarvinhughes 10 months ago
the man who saved the union. if the line had collapsed and the south had won the battle the war would have been over. they should teach more about him. the most dramatic scene i ever saw in a movie. and its real. when i hear him scream out Bayonets! i feel it. a great american hero. at appomattox he returned the sword of surrender and treated his defeated enemy with honor and respect. a true man.
nomadnametab 10 months ago
He was a good leader, but most historians say he didn't order the charge, and it was more an accident he took credit for
theskippa10 10 months ago
@theskippa10 That is somewhat disparaging. He admitted in a speech that, " to tell the truth, the order [to charge with bayonets] was never given, or but imperfectly." Consensus, however, is that it wasn't Melcher's call. From what I can gather, Chamberlain appears to have seized the moment.
exxcalibur1973 10 months ago
Chamberlain was a brilliant tactician.
Nint3nd04lif3 10 months ago
Chamberlain was the MAN!
craigwirollsuxdix 10 months ago 13
A magnificent tribute to a magnificent man.
Johnel83 11 months ago
Colonel Chamberlain may have singlehandly won the war!
Sto20784 11 months ago 7
@Sto20784 Never ever given enough credit for what he did.
CarlaLR74 10 months ago
@Sto20784 By the end of the war he was promoted to Major General and presided over the surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia after Appomattox.
panachevitz 9 months ago
@Sto20784 I wouldn't say that. But I think he turned the momentum towards the North in the War. That was important.
KWCline91 7 months ago
@Sto20784 Yes.
LordHannigan 4 months ago
@Sto20784 Actually General Custer may have singlehandly won the war. When Pickett's charge happened, it was actually a two-fold attack by the Confederates. It was done more as a distraction so Jeb Stuart's Calvary could pass by the Union right flank and attack the rear. If it wasn't for Custer's Calvary holding that flank against their numerous charges, the Union flank would have collapsed and the Confederates would have probably won the battle of Gettysberg.
vlotom 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@vlotom And if Chamberlain's mustache was quite as long the confederates may have won the day too. And if damned be that was one heck of a mustache!
jmitterii2 1 month ago
@Sto20784 It was Colonel Chamberlain's mustache that won the war!
jmitterii2 1 month ago