@MrSparaflescio2 Only a very dumb person could say something like that... She would not be dead, Russia is a true democracy, no one in Russia died because of being against the government, you should listen to less CNN propaganda, Russia in 2010 in not same as SSSR, only USA and its satelites are saying that because they are afraid of a might, Ortodox Russia which is once again a major power
Sparaflescio, turn off your TV and turn on your brain
@Njzizskmp Putin doesn't kill journalists who speak out against him? I think it's YOU that needs to open their eyes. You clearly don't read and lap up Russia Today because he thinks it's unbiased. Why don't you read about how the media is regulated in the US and most European states. We have FREEDOM OF PRESS. Russia QUITE FUCKING CLEARLY DOES NOT. Berlusconi likes Putin because they both realise control of the media equals power. Berlusconi is a sick fuck TYRANT. Wake up, for fucks sake
@m001900 what "freedom of press" you dumb fucking cunt, you bombed my country and killed thousands of innocent people because of fake "exodus" and now, 11 years later, we hear that it was ALBANIANS who killed US for human organs traficking.... This was all in our and Russian media when it was happening, 11 years ago, but Jewish controlled US and UK media only write about this now?!?! I see you're from UK, so not only that you bombed me, later you attacked Iraq cause of "WMD"?!?! Dumb bastards
@Njzizskmp WMD was a scam, I'm not denying that. And sometimes it is difficult for the media to obtain the truth; but when they do they have the FREEDOM OF PRESS to be able to report it. Media barons gaining oligopolies are a threat to democracy, I agree. But nobody can own more than 20% of the press in most European countries. Russia doesn't have freedom of press. Why don't you do some reading -- buy some books before splurting your "educated" opinion. Putin is laughing at you.
@Njzizskmp Listen, I'm not saying the US hasn't done some DESPICABLE things, but you think Russia is better?!! Putin is a "good" man?! He controls his media, poisons people, and kills journalists who he doesn't agree with. He is an ex KJB spy -- he is a trained liar. Secrecy is the reason why these attrocities you speak of are carried out in MY NAME; secrecy from the people. Secrecy is the creed of the CIA, but also Putin and his cronies.
Western governments, namely US and UK, have this holier-than-thou view of themselves as the great moral crusaders of the world-- they ALWAYS act in the best interests of the world since *they* know what's best for everyone. They use their great wealth to help drill this 'good guy' portrayal into the minds of their subjects, justifying their interference in foreign regions and general status as the World Police.
The Economist can smear him all they want, Putin has done a lot of good for Russia.
@bobshenix I agree about the US to an extent but they have A FREE PRESS, and do you think if Russia was the world's only superpower -- or China -- then things would be better? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Keep living in dreamland, my friend.
You're right, we would NOT be better off with Russia/China as the lone top dogs in the world. But I am merely pointing out that what works for one country does not work for others.
Technically, Russia was 'free-er' and had more personal liberties in the 90's under Yeltsin. The result was a total mess-- corruption, crime rates through the roof, and economic hardship. They were not good times. Russia under Putin has seen a resurgence in national pride, stronger economy, and less crime.
@m001900 There is a fundamental difference between KGB and lets say CIA or MI6... MI6 and CIA are forces of evil, just look at what they did in my country or what they are doing in Guantanamo Cuba, or Iraq prisons... While Russian secret services are forces of good... Yes, maybe there were some good people in Gestapo as well, but at least Gestapo was not as cruel and evil as CIA and MI6, while Russian secret services are doing things to improve the life of all free people on this planet
@Njzizskmp Have you heard this joker? Read some books. Not Russia Today!!! LOL. So biased. The KGB are a force for good? HAHAHAHA. Jesus fucking Christ.
@m001900 I never heard of Russia attacking any other country in the last 25 years? USA and UK are killing people as we speak... I never heard Russian secret services killing anyone but muslim terrorists and spies in the last 20 years, while MI6 and CIA are killing innocent people every day. Western pro-zionist and anti-Ortodox,anti-Russian, anti-Slavic press are the ONLY ONES criticizing Putin and their biggest argument is that he killed the opponents of the free world(like spies and terrorists)
The Western governments hate Putin because he refuses to be their whipping boy like Yeltsin was, also because nationalist sentiments are not outlawed in Russia. The West claims to know what is best for Russia, yet we hate on Putin who has united Russia into a proud, nationalist country with a resurgent economy not far behind the US, and destined to eventually pass the US once the dollar inevitably goes to shit.
@bobshenix You are right, I would just correct you slightly: Putin isnt really a nationalist, hes a patriot, even though nationalism isnt neccesary bad, originally that word meant "love for your nation", while patriotism meant "love for your country(patria)... It changed meanings during dark communist times, so now people usually say "nationalist" as if it was a bad thing.
But other then that, Im really happy that there are people in USA that think like you, that means theres hope after all!
That's a good point you make. An unfortunate consequence of WW2 was that, although Hitler took nationalism to the absolute extreme and needed to be defeated, with the end of the Third Reich came the virtual outlawing of any kind of nationalism in the West. Non-politically correct politicians who are even slightly nationalist are immediately discredited and slandered as "xenophobic racists"... it is created a very counter-productive political scene for many countries.
@bobshenix Yes, exactly.For example,Germans were wrong,of course,to invade everyone and kill the Jews, but now if you say you dont like what Israel is doing,you are labeled fascist and anti-semitic.If you say you dont like Muslims moving to Europe and that soon they will make majority in many of western countries,you are, as you said,"xenophobic".When Nick Griffin in UK said multi-culturealism failed,he is slandered as racist,but when Angela Merkel said it,everyone agrees.
Take your panties out of a bunch and understand that many media outlets (newspaper, television etc) in the UK have their own biased slant which of course happens to correspond with the attitudes/agendas of the liberal elite and British governing bodies.
Berlusconi has always been involved and had his stakes in Italian media long before starting his political career. There was no insidious coup or conspiracy to seize all media control once taking office, nor has a personality cult been fostered.
@bobshenix Liberal elite? Er... laissez-faire free market capitalism supports the centre-right press. Do some reading thanks. I recommend something about the Western European Media. About 250 pages, doesn't take long to read. Then you might actually have an idea of how things work. Or perhaps you think it's all just "biased".
Funny, your own opinion is undoubtedly influenced by the strongly anti-Berlusconi media in the UK. Same w/ Putin, most of the propaganda in the UK sways people to dislike and distrust both of them. There are two sides to every story-- i respect Putin and his no-nonsense style.
Perhaps his influence may be a bit excessive, but he is wildly popular for a REASON. Just because he's not handpicked by Western governments or Washington-approved does not automatically mean he has been bad for Russia.
@bobshenix I haven't heard anything on the news about Berlusconi. It's my own opinion based on facts that I've read. He seized a monopoly on the private sector TV channels in Italy during the 1980s. He also owned a large portion of the press, which he used to launch an election campaign that got him into power. Just shows how fickle people are, right? I'm not saying Putin isn't good for Russia, but he's not democratic. He uses the public broadcast media to get votes, similiar to Berlusconi
@m001900 How is it propaganda when the press has laws preserving its freedom. People are allowed to write things criticising the government here; and they do! How is that propaganda? The public broadcast network ( BBC ) has a committee preserving it's impartiality. Amongst other things I can't remember, but it DRASTICALLY decreases the chances of it being used by the government for propaganda. The BBC has broadcast pieces about the WMDs being a huge con -- the "dodgy dossier". Read pls.
Silvio Berlusconi is a funny bastard... I love how he makes his jokes and does not give two shits about what some ppl (especially journalists) think of them. Unlike MOST bleeding-heart politicians he's got the balls to poke fun at the 'all powerful' doctrine of Political Correctness without living in fear about what people say about him.
In the words of Putin, a "real man"!! He is one of the few who is willing to fight the Third World invasion of Europe, indifferent to liberal smearing...
@bobshenix The only reason you THINK he's a great man is because he owned all your news sources from which you gather your dumb shit information. You dumb fuck. He gained a near monopoly on Italy's TV channels and owned several newspapers. He told you he was great, and you lapped it up like a DUMB SHIT. People like you are the REAL threat to democracy. Lapping it all up like a stupid fucking cunt. I'm not pro US, but they are democratic, quite fucking clearly, dipshit -- unlike Russia.
why the fuck is people is talking about informatian in italy if closed a russian newspaper? be angry with putin! berlusconi just made a joke...you're all fucked in the brain....anyway Putin is a great leader....russia in 90's had an huge crisis....i think now is much better.........viva russia :D! privet from italy :)
Eh you people are uptight. He's having a good time in public. Stop being such koolaid drinking losers. If you're going to accuse him of anything, be legitimate. Politics is a big fat joke anyway.
You just have to go as far as France, Britain and the USA if you want to find dodgy heads of state. Sarkozy tries to hand out executive jobs to his son, and blocks tv shows mocking him. Tony Blair forged evidence to send his country to war. Finally, we shall be paying for the damage done by George Bush to the world for the next decade or so.
Now, now... Think about this: if Berlusconi hadn't done that mimic the journalist asking stupid questions would probabily be dead by now... Do you really think it was stupid?
This is Berlusconi. Now that escaped justice, everything is funny for him. There is nothing serious or sacred for him. In an historical moment for the world like Obama's election, he calls him "tanned". In the middle of death and ruins of an earthquake site he asks to fondle a women. In Auschwitz he would tell jokes. Thousands of exampels. Italy is dead.
olololo. L style xD
Ishidalover 7 months ago
terrible
Gianlucatakk 1 year ago
Natalya is hot...
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
Let me make an outrageous prediction: Putin will win the presidential election of 2012. He's a dictator, my friend.
m001900 1 year ago
What is wrong if Berlusconi and Putin get alone?
Both of them are similar in styles.
Both of them don't give a shit about the media!!!
Obama,Sarkozy,Merkel etc are fake leaders who want to look good with the media.
Obama is a fake !!!!
Barbarian337 1 year ago
i'm from Italy, and I'm deeply ashamed of being represented in Europe by such a criminal.
questionmars 1 year ago
@questionmars ti capisco,provo la medesima cosa!
Drugotheman 1 year ago
If Berlusconi had not made that gesture, the journalist would be dead today.
Is not true that Berlusconi is colluding with the Mafia, are just nonsense.
50% of Italians are with him. And only the 35% of the Italian Population is with the opposition.
MrSparaflescio2 1 year ago
@MrSparaflescio2 Only a very dumb person could say something like that... She would not be dead, Russia is a true democracy, no one in Russia died because of being against the government, you should listen to less CNN propaganda, Russia in 2010 in not same as SSSR, only USA and its satelites are saying that because they are afraid of a might, Ortodox Russia which is once again a major power
Sparaflescio, turn off your TV and turn on your brain
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
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m001900 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp Putin doesn't kill journalists who speak out against him? I think it's YOU that needs to open their eyes. You clearly don't read and lap up Russia Today because he thinks it's unbiased. Why don't you read about how the media is regulated in the US and most European states. We have FREEDOM OF PRESS. Russia QUITE FUCKING CLEARLY DOES NOT. Berlusconi likes Putin because they both realise control of the media equals power. Berlusconi is a sick fuck TYRANT. Wake up, for fucks sake
m001900 1 year ago
@m001900 what "freedom of press" you dumb fucking cunt, you bombed my country and killed thousands of innocent people because of fake "exodus" and now, 11 years later, we hear that it was ALBANIANS who killed US for human organs traficking.... This was all in our and Russian media when it was happening, 11 years ago, but Jewish controlled US and UK media only write about this now?!?! I see you're from UK, so not only that you bombed me, later you attacked Iraq cause of "WMD"?!?! Dumb bastards
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp WMD was a scam, I'm not denying that. And sometimes it is difficult for the media to obtain the truth; but when they do they have the FREEDOM OF PRESS to be able to report it. Media barons gaining oligopolies are a threat to democracy, I agree. But nobody can own more than 20% of the press in most European countries. Russia doesn't have freedom of press. Why don't you do some reading -- buy some books before splurting your "educated" opinion. Putin is laughing at you.
m001900 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp Listen, I'm not saying the US hasn't done some DESPICABLE things, but you think Russia is better?!! Putin is a "good" man?! He controls his media, poisons people, and kills journalists who he doesn't agree with. He is an ex KJB spy -- he is a trained liar. Secrecy is the reason why these attrocities you speak of are carried out in MY NAME; secrecy from the people. Secrecy is the creed of the CIA, but also Putin and his cronies.
m001900 1 year ago
Western governments, namely US and UK, have this holier-than-thou view of themselves as the great moral crusaders of the world-- they ALWAYS act in the best interests of the world since *they* know what's best for everyone. They use their great wealth to help drill this 'good guy' portrayal into the minds of their subjects, justifying their interference in foreign regions and general status as the World Police.
The Economist can smear him all they want, Putin has done a lot of good for Russia.
bobshenix 1 year ago
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m001900 1 year ago
@bobshenix I agree about the US to an extent but they have A FREE PRESS, and do you think if Russia was the world's only superpower -- or China -- then things would be better? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Keep living in dreamland, my friend.
m001900 1 year ago
@m001900
You're right, we would NOT be better off with Russia/China as the lone top dogs in the world. But I am merely pointing out that what works for one country does not work for others.
Technically, Russia was 'free-er' and had more personal liberties in the 90's under Yeltsin. The result was a total mess-- corruption, crime rates through the roof, and economic hardship. They were not good times. Russia under Putin has seen a resurgence in national pride, stronger economy, and less crime.
bobshenix 1 year ago
@m001900 *KGB
m001900 1 year ago
@m001900 There is a fundamental difference between KGB and lets say CIA or MI6... MI6 and CIA are forces of evil, just look at what they did in my country or what they are doing in Guantanamo Cuba, or Iraq prisons... While Russian secret services are forces of good... Yes, maybe there were some good people in Gestapo as well, but at least Gestapo was not as cruel and evil as CIA and MI6, while Russian secret services are doing things to improve the life of all free people on this planet
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
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m001900 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp Have you heard this joker? Read some books. Not Russia Today!!! LOL. So biased. The KGB are a force for good? HAHAHAHA. Jesus fucking Christ.
m001900 1 year ago
@m001900 I never heard of Russia attacking any other country in the last 25 years? USA and UK are killing people as we speak... I never heard Russian secret services killing anyone but muslim terrorists and spies in the last 20 years, while MI6 and CIA are killing innocent people every day. Western pro-zionist and anti-Ortodox,anti-Russian, anti-Slavic press are the ONLY ONES criticizing Putin and their biggest argument is that he killed the opponents of the free world(like spies and terrorists)
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp
The Western governments hate Putin because he refuses to be their whipping boy like Yeltsin was, also because nationalist sentiments are not outlawed in Russia. The West claims to know what is best for Russia, yet we hate on Putin who has united Russia into a proud, nationalist country with a resurgent economy not far behind the US, and destined to eventually pass the US once the dollar inevitably goes to shit.
bobshenix 1 year ago
@bobshenix You are right, I would just correct you slightly: Putin isnt really a nationalist, hes a patriot, even though nationalism isnt neccesary bad, originally that word meant "love for your nation", while patriotism meant "love for your country(patria)... It changed meanings during dark communist times, so now people usually say "nationalist" as if it was a bad thing.
But other then that, Im really happy that there are people in USA that think like you, that means theres hope after all!
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
@Njzizskmp
That's a good point you make. An unfortunate consequence of WW2 was that, although Hitler took nationalism to the absolute extreme and needed to be defeated, with the end of the Third Reich came the virtual outlawing of any kind of nationalism in the West. Non-politically correct politicians who are even slightly nationalist are immediately discredited and slandered as "xenophobic racists"... it is created a very counter-productive political scene for many countries.
bobshenix 1 year ago
@bobshenix Yes, exactly.For example,Germans were wrong,of course,to invade everyone and kill the Jews, but now if you say you dont like what Israel is doing,you are labeled fascist and anti-semitic.If you say you dont like Muslims moving to Europe and that soon they will make majority in many of western countries,you are, as you said,"xenophobic".When Nick Griffin in UK said multi-culturealism failed,he is slandered as racist,but when Angela Merkel said it,everyone agrees.
Njzizskmp 1 year ago
Take your panties out of a bunch and understand that many media outlets (newspaper, television etc) in the UK have their own biased slant which of course happens to correspond with the attitudes/agendas of the liberal elite and British governing bodies.
Berlusconi has always been involved and had his stakes in Italian media long before starting his political career. There was no insidious coup or conspiracy to seize all media control once taking office, nor has a personality cult been fostered.
bobshenix 1 year ago
@bobshenix Liberal elite? Er... laissez-faire free market capitalism supports the centre-right press. Do some reading thanks. I recommend something about the Western European Media. About 250 pages, doesn't take long to read. Then you might actually have an idea of how things work. Or perhaps you think it's all just "biased".
m001900 1 year ago
@bobshenix Yes, I said Berlusconi used the media to seize power. Not the other way round? WTF?!
m001900 1 year ago
Funny, your own opinion is undoubtedly influenced by the strongly anti-Berlusconi media in the UK. Same w/ Putin, most of the propaganda in the UK sways people to dislike and distrust both of them. There are two sides to every story-- i respect Putin and his no-nonsense style.
Perhaps his influence may be a bit excessive, but he is wildly popular for a REASON. Just because he's not handpicked by Western governments or Washington-approved does not automatically mean he has been bad for Russia.
bobshenix 1 year ago
@bobshenix I haven't heard anything on the news about Berlusconi. It's my own opinion based on facts that I've read. He seized a monopoly on the private sector TV channels in Italy during the 1980s. He also owned a large portion of the press, which he used to launch an election campaign that got him into power. Just shows how fickle people are, right? I'm not saying Putin isn't good for Russia, but he's not democratic. He uses the public broadcast media to get votes, similiar to Berlusconi
m001900 1 year ago
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m001900 1 year ago
@m001900 How is it propaganda when the press has laws preserving its freedom. People are allowed to write things criticising the government here; and they do! How is that propaganda? The public broadcast network ( BBC ) has a committee preserving it's impartiality. Amongst other things I can't remember, but it DRASTICALLY decreases the chances of it being used by the government for propaganda. The BBC has broadcast pieces about the WMDs being a huge con -- the "dodgy dossier". Read pls.
m001900 1 year ago
berlusconi is caligula, nero and tiberius all in one body!
Berialavrenti 1 year ago
Godfather Berlusconi :)
bsrap 1 year ago
first, anyways this paper was a yellow press paper printing some shit.
second, the closed paper is different from the one this lady worked on.
qd1qd 1 year ago
Does that lady work for a newspaper belonging to burlesconi?
asumazilla 1 year ago
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m001900 1 year ago
@asumazilla HAHA! Probably, but its editor is definately Putin.
m001900 1 year ago
Belrusconi advised Putin to kill the reporter, he just closed the newspaper. Overall, Putin is the good guy for not killing the reporter :o)
shockolanu 1 year ago
srsly berlusconi looks like a mafia leader or something...
aseticelite 1 year ago 2
Do not underrate the simbolic meaning of this act, it's not a joke, in Russia and Italy exists a serious problem of freedom of information.
Aleronx90 1 year ago 4
Silvio Berlusconi is a funny bastard... I love how he makes his jokes and does not give two shits about what some ppl (especially journalists) think of them. Unlike MOST bleeding-heart politicians he's got the balls to poke fun at the 'all powerful' doctrine of Political Correctness without living in fear about what people say about him.
In the words of Putin, a "real man"!! He is one of the few who is willing to fight the Third World invasion of Europe, indifferent to liberal smearing...
bobshenix 1 year ago
@bobshenix The only reason you THINK he's a great man is because he owned all your news sources from which you gather your dumb shit information. You dumb fuck. He gained a near monopoly on Italy's TV channels and owned several newspapers. He told you he was great, and you lapped it up like a DUMB SHIT. People like you are the REAL threat to democracy. Lapping it all up like a stupid fucking cunt. I'm not pro US, but they are democratic, quite fucking clearly, dipshit -- unlike Russia.
m001900 1 year ago
berulsconi is indeed with the mafia
but damn is he funny
NebPWN 1 year ago
haha i like how putin nods like yes i agree, shoot the bitch!!!
zomg!
TheQuintin123456 1 year ago
great music, fits perfectly
GoldeWC 1 year ago 3
why the fuck is people is talking about informatian in italy if closed a russian newspaper? be angry with putin! berlusconi just made a joke...you're all fucked in the brain....anyway Putin is a great leader....russia in 90's had an huge crisis....i think now is much better.........viva russia :D! privet from italy :)
bossitalianboy 1 year ago 2
Eh you people are uptight. He's having a good time in public. Stop being such koolaid drinking losers. If you're going to accuse him of anything, be legitimate. Politics is a big fat joke anyway.
crewalpha 2 years ago
that's freedom of information in Italy... now you can understand how this criminal could rule in Italy!
Aleronx90 2 years ago
The newspaper didn't close.
@Silverbud
You just have to go as far as France, Britain and the USA if you want to find dodgy heads of state. Sarkozy tries to hand out executive jobs to his son, and blocks tv shows mocking him. Tony Blair forged evidence to send his country to war. Finally, we shall be paying for the damage done by George Bush to the world for the next decade or so.
pwlloyd69 2 years ago
It's a lie that the Nazavisimaya Gazeta wasclosed, it's alive and well.
kostja1975 2 years ago 3
He has never grown up. He is a narcisist, needs to be in the middle of attention all the time.
In which country besides Italy such an idiot could hold the country's power and most print and tv media?
silverbud 2 years ago
Good ! No more stupid questions :)
vinkata 2 years ago
Viva Berlusconi !!! Russia support you.
SuperTankT95 2 years ago 4
he he he he that's the right way!!!!! Well done
Nellle79 2 years ago
Berlusconi had to do something, to smoothen up tension at the time, and relationship between the two countries at the same time.
sersarsor 2 years ago
Lmao the guy is hilarious - The newspapers didn't close - That's bollocks lol.
Sam7V 2 years ago 4
Now, now... Think about this: if Berlusconi hadn't done that mimic the journalist asking stupid questions would probabily be dead by now... Do you really think it was stupid?
BerianZarp 2 years ago
о чем состоялся разговор ?
xamido4ka 2 years ago
This is Berlusconi. Now that escaped justice, everything is funny for him. There is nothing serious or sacred for him. In an historical moment for the world like Obama's election, he calls him "tanned". In the middle of death and ruins of an earthquake site he asks to fondle a women. In Auschwitz he would tell jokes. Thousands of exampels. Italy is dead.
pierineri 2 years ago
It would have been funnier if he hadn't tried to hide it from Putin - but in a way its funny as it is to
Ginlah 2 years ago
I liked it
CooperS46 2 years ago
fantastic.
BulgarianTuber 2 years ago
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чёт никуя не понял я идиот убейтиминяктонибуть
m00nych 2 years ago
=) Ну та баба типа вопрос какойто не нужный задала путину и газета в которой она работала была закрыта на следующий день
Stiflerok 2 years ago
Don't mess up with Russia
HomerkaBY 2 years ago 3
Tzar Putin and Don Berlusconi........
Wofka1986 2 years ago 13
@Wofka1986 Fuck USA and UK. Their corporations is the biggest mafia on earth. USA=scum of earth.
deepenhancer 1 year ago
DON'T FUCK WITH RUSSIA!!! BITCH!!!
xrenube 2 years ago 6
it says Moskovski Korispondent not "Nezavisimaya Gazeta" on the gate though! :P
mistarcraw 2 years ago 7
Priviet!
ConigliMorti 2 years ago
haha privet
mistarcraw 2 years ago 2
Спасйбо
ConigliMorti 2 years ago
@ConigliMorti
komsomolet
Berialavrenti 1 year ago