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  • does it have internet

    

  • 8GB haven't got wifi??

  • does the x-fi 2 also have these online/wi-fi features?

  • why doesnt mine have online???

  • @XpointblancX do you have a 16GB or 32GB ? if not then you won't have it because only those versions come with wifi

  • @mogi99999 dat sucks :(

  • I own both a zen xfi and an ipod touch zen owns in music quality plus 30 dollar headphones is epic win on creatives part however ipod music quality is descent, I do like ipod better in a sense bc theres more you can do, but I have the newest ipod touch 4g there isnt a fair comparison considering ipod touch is a diff. class, I would choose creatives players over regular ipod nanos, but over the touch apple just owns, sorry my own opinion both r impressive players if only creative released the zii

  • all the video time and you failed to go over the most important and annoying to figure out part. Configuring your computer and zen fi so that it actually CAN access folders off your computer. :-(

  • i like ipod i respect what apple is trying to do but im burned out on that shit man. i wont get another apple product for a good while

  • I dont like iPods due to the touch screen fact thats why I go with Creative's mp3 players. I never liked touch screens because once the touch screen goes bad your fucked. Plus I already have a computer and a ps3 What do I need an iPod for when I can download apps and play games and go online anyway ? lol It would just be overkill and useless but thats in my opinion some people want that but hey Im not here to judge them lol its what they want who cares

  • iPod touch FTW!!!! I'm using my 3rd gen 64gb right now to comment on this! Ha, connect to computer?? What a bunch of bs. iPods ARE portable handheld computers!! Most of them have enough memory to store any shit you have on your computer. The iPod classic has up to like 180gbs of storage! Apart from that Ipod touch has hundreds of thousands of apps I can download! Hahahaahahahhaahahaha mp3 players suck!

  • @MrPenafiel this is actually not mp3 player...

  • @MrPenafiel an ipod is an mp3 you dipshit.

  • @MrPenafiel this is a mp4 ipods are mp3....so zen and zune owns ipods

  • this . is . shit .  is it so hard to buy the god of entertainment? I P O D ? all you nerds just think your too good for them, they arnt complicated for you .. this = utter shit

  • Reasons I don't like apple products:1. I don't like being forced to use iTunes to synch my music, and I don't like how it eats up RAM on my crappy computer. (2) Compared to other brands of mp3 players with many more functions, Apple products are noticeably more expensive.

    I recognize the stability of Apple products and the aesthetic, but I just don't feel like I get enough bang for my buck with them. And I can't be bothered to use Rockbox on an iPod.

  • Does the X-Fi2 have this to?

  • @joosthuub only an rss reader, but you can download apps on xeroo-dot-net. maybe there is what you need

  • @doemaeries

    wat can i do with rss feeds?

    download pages on my zen?

    please help?

  • @Sarnarath you cau download rss-feads to your pc and sync it with your zen to raed them.

  • mine has no online T.T

  • In my house we have a wireless network, then if i connect to online, i can go on the network into computers :O?

  • i would like t know why my zen x-fi doesnt have the online option ?

  • only the 16gb and 32gb has the option

  • ummmm.... ummmmm... uhmmmm

    so god damn ummmm.... irritating!

  • wireless ummm network so it knows ummm

    ummmmm

    +no enthusiasm

    this review sucks

  • Because there is not too much to be enthusiastic about.. basically... if your in your house..um... you can ..see the stuff on your computer..that's also in your house.. kinda neat but how much extra are you gonna pay when the -$40 Creative Zen does your music and video, and no half-assed features..

    You want him to sound like a dirty whore? "Wow this is great ! look wireless!?" Wireless what?

    Love Anything but I-Pod, help me pick out my Creative Zen vision M which is

  • @candywrapp

    It's because this device sucks.

  • they should include wireless feature in the 8gb player too :/

  • no its 16g, the 8 gig doesnt have wifi

  • Well if the cool people spell cool kewl then I'd rather possess a brain then spell like a fucking idiot.

  • Those buttons pretty suxs.

  • how you downloadid tha online Fx ??

  • cn it go to any website by using the wireless ?

  • good choice a 2 gb touch is a waste

  • Good job! You won't be dissappointed

  • does it have any sort of internt browser?

  • No, you can Yahoo chat and stream, thats it. (I have the XFi)

  • I don't care what is said.. creative is amazing. I have a creative zen extra 40 gig... it's 12 y/o now and STILL working. .... the zen x-fi will be my next purchase.

  • creative is amazing. i don't have anything that old, but I do have a 5 y/o muvo n200, and a 2 y/o vision W. both still work like the day I bought them.

  • exactly.. creative has excellent quality.. Remember.. Creative makes Sound Cards for computers are are for both gaming and even professional use. Their Media players are no exception.

    Do you see Microsoft or Apple making professional grade sound cards?

  • i was stuck between this and the iPod touch. and unfortunately i bought the ipod cause of the internet, email, etc. And I keep having problems with it. So even apple's stuff isn't perfect.

  • you can do all that with a hacked/modded zen

    modding it only requires a firmware rewrite and it's already been done.

  • all of the iPod stuff are hyped and overrated

  • iPod and all Apple are for noobs

  • true fact, 5/5

  • So very fucking true.

  • yeah basicly... they come the way they are and are "easy to use" but are kinda stupid... you cant upgrade them or do anything advanced... its just for noobs who dont know anything about computers

  • @bullmeatt

    I'm not a big apple fan, but my brothers are, they have ipod touches those you can jail break and make ur own apps, but then again ipod touch isn't really a fair competition between this. I'd rather get a zune hd but can't afford one, so i'm getting this, but what do you think x-fi or x-fi 2?

  • i dont know... im not a fan of touch screen at all. But x-fi has EXTREMELY good soudn quality and i was impressed by it. As long as you have good head phones and arent deaf you will notice it the crystalizer. I had the original creative zen for a year and i wanted to buy another one when it broke because i liked how the menu was and etc. and was used to it but i noticed the x-fi was an upgraded version so i bought it and am happy. The x-fi 2 is someting different... might be better but

  • If you use subscription services, many a complaint from users of x-fi 2 is that it has no compatibility with any subscription services or tracks... so if you download all your stuff (illegally) or all your stuff is on CD your good..otherwise your screwed apparently..

    A large part of my library is Rhapsody subscription.. so that's no deal for me :/

  • @darknessofkrish

    I used to have a zen it was compatible with rhapsody are u sure. I 'm getting the zen x-fi not x-fi 2 so....I was to gippy about wifi feature so I got the regular 8gb with built in speaker. It should arrive soon I hope it works

  • Well.. you asked x-fi or x-fi 2... and I did say the x-fi 2 specifically.. I know the others work with rhapsody, using the Vision M right now and most tracks on there are off of Rhapsody...

    Major bomb on x-fi 2 right now is that it does not have compatibility with subscription music services.. see the amazon reviews page for one.. there are like 2 complaints right at the top.. unless of course they were fake, but I think I saw one such review on Creative's own product page as well..

  • @darknessofkrish

    either way I don't care I can't afford 15 dollars a month for a subscription. and I have like 6 thousand songs on my comp. from cd's and downloads and shit mostly my bro.s but some r mine

  • Well as I thought... if you have most of your stuff on CDs or completely illegal you don't have a problem... I for one like so many kinds of music (like every form of rock alone) and so temperamental in what I listen to and enjoy at a given moment, having them all on CD does not come up to immediately cost effective at $15 to $20 per CD when I'd need like 600 CD's to cover what tracks I listen to... so the subscription stuff has worked out for me :P and I just don't rip-off tracks. I'm a boob..

  • The point to that last drawn out reply is that then the x-fi2 is a very cool option if you don't care about subscription (and I'd imagine they'd have to add support eventually to stay in the game if you did eventually want it.. )

  • ily <3 lawls

  • @liquidmeat55 i agree with you XD

  • @liquidmeat55 remove one "O" from there

  • Creative HAD quality.. their products seem to be getting progressively worse.. except for slight duh design advances, nothing seems to be better that the vision M and W was at the time i their class... now brand new vision m and w are selling for brand new prices or like rares when I look for them (particularly the 60gb+ versions : (

  • should i go with the x-fi or just the zen

  • I should go with X-fi, becuase it has an in build speaker!

  • I can't find any wireless features on my Zen X-Fi at all. Mine does not have the online feature, and I have not found one option throughout the entire menu that suggests it is wi-fi compatable.

    Also the headphones broke really easily, after having fluctuating levels of sound for maybe a month.

    Not particularely impressive for headphones worth ~$60USD.

  • you probably bought the Zen - Fi that doesent have that feature mines doesent either...i saw that the one without wireless is cheaper...

  • You'll probably have the 8 gigabite version.. it doesnt have it

  • hi need help with trying to configure account i have not problem with connecting to my meida server or zen cast but when i try to configure my chat account it says cannot connect tosever fing newnetwork can anyone help

  • I'm considering this device or a Zune 120. Is it possible for me to download my podcasts from UC Berkely onto the X-Fi and/or my other subscriptions? Also, how is it that u can make playlists?

  • is it possible to watch youtube videos with it??

  • If your lazy and don't know anything about computers, go with an Ipod. You might as well buy a MAC while your at it. If you know your way around computers even a little, I would go for the more inexpensive zen and a good PC.

  • I prefer the Zen Zen, just the Zen, no M or View or whatnot on it. It is a tad annoying that it doesn't work without XNJB on a Mac though, or I use it in XP in Parallels, either work quite well.

    Anyhow. I just find the Creative Zen X-Fi a bit, ugly compared to the just Zen.

  • Won't the screen turn it self off if you lock the device? The old Zen does...

  • do you really need w-fi if you already have great headphones?

  • do u mean using ur headphones for an entena?

  • For anyone looking for a REAL PMP, this is the way to go. Creative is usually pretty good about firmware updates. The guy that gave this review is a moron. If you lock the device, the screen will shut off, which tremendously increases battery life. To all of those asking, the 3 hour battery life is for WIRELESS. The device can achieve up to 36 hours of music through headphones, and 5 hours of video. These times are diminished if listening through the ext. speaker. 36 hours on an Ipod? NEVER!

  • i must say though. the ipod touch is great.. really easy to use controls. nice big clear screen, but if your looking for something with a little less budget then the zen is for you. having watched loads of videos about the zen it has made me want one over the ITouch. purely for the fact ive just ordered one for £128 Uk. for the 16GB X-FI. plus it also comes down to your tastes.. but ipod definetly for the better features. but zen for its amazing price tag.:)

  • And amazing SQ. And amazing supplied earbuds. And no need to use software.

  • @Joe, on a Mac you need software. It's not showing up like a flashdrive, you need something called XNJB or something. Really annoying.

  • Ah yes, forgot about that.

    Thought it worked on UMS, it doesn't xD

    Thanks for pointing that out ;)

  • yeah well if you use a mac you oughta be shot <__<

  • That's mean. Just because I choose to get a good looking computer with amazing software and open standards...

  • Man...i could write a 2000 word essay on why PCs are superior to macs. I don't REALLY want to start something but i don't understand why mac users think the way they do...confuses the HELL out of me. Macs are aesthetically pleasing...and thats it. If i wanted to spend an enormous amount of money i'd still buy a PC but it would be many many more times powerful than a mac of the same price.

  • oh....and they make ugly looking aluminium cases for PCs too <__< along with ugly looking glossy aluminium monitors and the freaking works...AND you can run mac OSX on a PC as well....so all you are paying for is the bloody logo...no reilability no nothing...PCs and macs use virtually the same parts...macs just cost more because of apples dumb gimicky crap <__<

  • Not legally. All I have to say.

  • It's a bit like saying to someone who bought a Ferrari, "Only stupid people buy a Ferrari, why buy it when you could steal it, sure it's illegal, but you would have a Ferrari, right?".

    Apple Care wouldn't cover your computer. Plus, if you did install it on a PC, and patch the kernel, you'd have a lot of problems due to drivers and such, unless of course you'd buy the exact same parts as in a Mac, but then the price would be the same as in a Mac!

  • You couldn't be more wrong sir...macs use identical parts to PCs...the only difference between macs and pcs being the price....macs can cost up to 2x more than PCs with the EXACT SAME specifications...so why buy a mac when you could get something more powerful that WILL outperform it? I'd rather buy a better PC for the same price and install Mac OS X on it than buy a mac. There IS NO problems with patched versions of Macs OS X....not if its done properly, you argument is invalid...

  • mac is for noobs

  • Is it the same earbuds as came with the Zen (just Zen?)? I hate those, they kill my ears. Way too big. Sound is ok though.

  • How do you upload vidoes on the Creative ZEN mp3s?

  • ... I'm looking for device that has big display for videos... but battery really sux..:(

  • almost every portable video device battery life's are normally around 4-6

  • I got this for x-mas and people said it's better than Ipod..I started playing around on it and I found the System thing and I'm getting annoyed kinda..my battrie is full..but 3 hours only?!

  • well in my opinion, its not better than the ipod touch when it comes to the usability of the ipod touch. the Touch is capable of doing so much more than the zen x-fi, such as having full html internet access, purchasing music, movies right off of the ipod touch. having apps such as aim, myspace, email, and facebook direct connect. Plus a wide variety of other usefull programs that can be helpfull in everyday events. I have flight computers and aviation weather apps on my touch.

  • but, im VERY sure that you can't get a 32gb I-pod touch for $205..........

  • thats true, when it comes to "more bang for your buck" the zen wins. Especially if your just looking for a high capacity mp3/video player for the cheapest price. But if you want your mp3/video player to do anything else, your gonna have to pay for it, well at least for now.lol

  • also, i just hate how ipods work in general, because just the other day, i go to charge my (temporary) ipod in my friends computer and it fucking overwrites his 10,000 songs with my 500 on the ipod. Didn't even bring up a message asking to overwrite, it just did it

  • yeah I feel your pain, I've done that before and man, it sucks balls! lol. I guess everybody has there own opinion on ipods. I've had nothing but great experiences with both my ipod nano and touch. once I got a taste of all the features the touch had to offer, I just cant go back to anything else.

  • when you are streaming video do you have the option to download it onto the player or is that just with music and photos.

    Thanks

  • can you buy music online

  • Man, they should just refurbish and sell the Vision M. :O

  • looks beautiful, had a zen vision m which fucked up cause i dropped it, then had a zune 30, but this one looks so god dam beautiful, but why is it only 32gb man why?....why?.....why? , shit ill still buy it,

    the looks man, just wow, i love it

  • itz nt just 32g ive got it in a 16gb and they sell 8gb in argos itz amazin

  • i meant its to small, but still amazin

  • I find that the msn feature on this player is with fault.

    1- It unblocks all blocked contacts on your msn list

    2- ur display picture changes to the stupid avatar they ask you to make

    IF ANYODY KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE EITHER OF THESE PROBLEMS COULD YOU PLEASE REPLY.

  • 1- It doesn't unblock them. They only appear unblocked but they are still blocked, see you Offline.

  • ehhhhhhh

  • W T F NO FAST FORWARD??

    is it true??

  • oh sorry didn't read that it was streaming

  • How does the media server thing work?

  • i want to buy this player i already own a zen v plus

  • man this has soo many good features, but I don't like the look of it and the buttons seem kind of old-style..sounds dumb, but I like those new touch screen/pad, so much easier to use...if only creative came up with one of those..

  • Why is wireless download very slow? I thought wireless B or G speeds were in the megabytes per second...aka less than a few seconds for a song...It does look like it needs some work yes.

  • wow thax for making me feel like a genius for buying my ipod touch 2g the archos 5 looks like a piece of shit and so does this atrocity. 3 hour wifi haha anythingbutsmart

  • Thanks for showing us how smart you really are, dumbass.

    I own an iPod and by far, the interface of this seems fresh and new. In my opinion, the iPod's interface is washed out. I'll just wait for apple to release a new iPod with a new interface, thanks.

  • this or ipod touch?

  • Crazy decision :D Creative looks really nice and doesnt get the attention it deserves...

  • the creative comes with a better headset, and it has an expansion slot so you can put in a sd card into it and add more storage space

  • your saying battery life is poor, using internet or en general usind of the mp3?? need help please! So I should not buy it!?

  • in his other review on the general functions he said that the battery life of WIRELESS is only three hours

    but the GENERAL battery life is 36 audio playback and 5 for video

  • can u go on the normal internet like internrt explorer

  • fucking ass hole its better than an i pod because it has mor setings and its more pratcil and strong it wont brake in ur pocket

  • rofl, another ipod fan boy. Face it kid, ipod isn't the greatest shit out there. It just that it has so many loyal fans which makes it so successful. iPod audio quality sucks. Creative zen has been in the portable device industry longer than the ipod.

  • dude thank god I found someone who finds ipod to be suckest mp3 player

  • as long as it plays good quality porn its fine with me hahaha (converting porn is gay)

  • LMAO nice man nice I never thought of that lol

  • ya the one thing i hate about ipods is that u gotta convert everything to fit itunes quality which is gay in my opinion

  • damn ipod fan boy if you like ipod the video than, creatives are way better than apples

  • Is the wireless feature worth the extra money?

  • now im wondering the same thing

  • Are you sure the general battery life is 36 hours audio ?

  • pretty sure

  • nice commentary. Creative should have stuck with the vision M. That thing looks AWFUL.

  • how do you get the wifi to work on it every time i try it says no servers

  • i tot u can chat in yahoo and msn messenger in the x fi(claimed by creative)?

  • on my x-fi there is no online tab... what is this?

    Can i get it? it's nowhere in the menue

  • Is it an 8GB model? I think only the 16 and 32 have wifi, from what I've read.

  • What store can I buy this in?

  • circuit city

  • Thanks for that..

  • do u have to upgrade the x-fi firmware?? or is it even upgradable?? coz i saw the x-fi here in japan and it doesnt even have the online option??? please tell me ASAP:) thanks!!

  • that's why it needs WM6, would be much easier to navigate using a touchscreen/stylus too

  • this is better, better sound qualtiy, better durability, better wireless connectivity, and better value. 32 gb is only $250. Also supports external memory of an up to a 16gb SDHC card. Though lacking touch screen, i can pay th eprice of a touch screen for all this. Oh, did i mention it comes with a kickass pair of earphones unlike an ipod?

  • you are such a moron...and cheesy plastic? pffft, this player even though made of PLASTIC is fricken more durable than a ipod. Ipods suck. And Yes, this has a better wireless, it's a lot more stable than the ipod touches. And no, i don't think this has better sound quality because it says "x-fi" on it, it's a fact that this has a better amplifier in it for music, and the way it puts out the signals, is faster and far superior to the ipod. In fact, i would say, what ipod gives is at the least.

  • what the hell are you thinking? "and it is so low that the player can only suck", i hate when people just ASSUME it sucks because it's CHEAPER. iPods suck hell! if you put heard this, felt this, you would know HOW FRICKEN better this player is better than an iPod. Also, "oooo i love my Ipod!..oh wait...WAIT! where's my external memory?!!!!" exactly...up to this fricken day apple has not even gone bothering with expandable memory.

  • Why don't they bother with it? because the next fricken second they comeout with a 120gb ipod, and then you get hooked to that, and then they steal your money that way. all apple cares about is making money, nothing else.

  • streaming  omg *_*

    i hope they dont unstock em

  • can you chat with people on aim from msn or yahoo?

  • blows the ipod away in terms of sound quality

  • yessssssssss and it can instent message?>?@!@!@ hell yah

    yahoo or MSN!!@@!!

    this is cooolios

  • I just got this today :) £99.99

  • You Pre-ordered it, you mean. right?

  • nope I went to the shop and got it.

  • this is out already. You can buy it directly from some stores or from creative.

  • I gotta say, this is nice and all, but the buttons just don't work for me..... I have a ZVM and love it to death, but if I'm gonna buy a new mp3 player, it's gonna be an iTouch.

  • don't buy the ipod touch, stay with your zen vision M. Ipods are a complete waste of money, why would you throw away somethings that's cheaper in price, Better build quality, and Better SOund quality for an ipod touch?

  • My brother bought an itouch and he didnt like it

    he said: dont buy it, its a waste of money and you have to pay to download something, waste of money

    oh well i have a zune 30gb xD

  • my opinion stick with the ipod touch yes i understand the price diffrence and the sound quality but the web browsing is great plus the app store completely blows away and other mp3 players of its class.

  • this is why you need a touch screen.my psp gathers rss feed but browsing can tidious without a touch screen. thats why i like the scrool bar on the zen m.

  • wen i first saw this i thought it was touch screen...creative labs needs to step up thier game....lol

  • not true, I would sacrifice touch screen anyday for sound quality and build quality.

  • I second that. I have a LG Dare, with the HOPES of using it to replace my 2G iPod Nano. WRONG. The audio quality on it sucks bullocks. So, I;m considering taking the "joke" back as I've been calling it and just getting an enV2.

  • i said i would sacrifice touch screem for sound quality and build quality...Does ipod nano have touch screen? no

  • Thanks a lot for this.

  • Great !

    Found these before the REview is up on abi ;)

    Keep up the good work !

    btw, sleek player !:D