If I pay for a Gym membership, I can't legally put up posters in the gym supporting my stance on politics if the owner disagrees. Besides, Anti-choice is a popular opinion, don't fool yourself madam.
Wonder if people handing out free condoms on this campus would be told to go and distribute them in a room under threat of trespassing on private property?
Whether you agree with them or not is moot. They were protesting on private property, they were notified by the property owner that they were not welcome to protest there, they declined to leave, ergo, they were arrested. They broke the law, plain and simple.
@HurricaneTeen, Incorrect. The rights of the property owners ultimately trump any rights afforded to student organizations. Students are not entitled to use university grounds as they please, they are beholden to the whims of the property owners. This is basic private property law. Whether or not the university acted ethically is irrelevant to the application of the law.
@ceruleanblue777 University campuses are technically private property. However, with the fact that there are only three facilities for higher education in Ottawa which most of the post-high school age group attend, it is very much a public place in terms of social implications. I know that U of O does a very anti-semetic Israel apartheid week demonstration annually, and nobody bans them. Again, these universities are very much socially public places, they cannot chose sides politically.
@Bobanamanamo, Correction: they SHOULD not choose sides politically. However, they do. The law sides with the university as the property owners. Your opinion (and mine) is irrelavant to the legal application of the law.
@ceruleanblue777 Very true. However, even private property has laws. Workplace harassment for example, cannot be done on public or private property. And during the demonstration you saw the protesters reiterate their rights that the university itself put in place. Around 1:54 you literally hear security stand there with a big dumb look and say "oh..." while the administrator looks the other direction. Public, private, doesn't matter. Carleton was in violation of both federal and its own laws.
I seriously think you need to check into a mental health hospital. Just read the law and the rules. If you hate the system so much and are so convinced of you correctness, why don't you stop composing psychotic rants on Youtube and initiate a legal challenge?
Once I wrote something about abortion on gaming site GameSpot and the site moderated my message and sent me a warning of canceling my account if it repeat again...
Ruth and everybody else, you are an inspiration to us all. Yup, Carleton University has a place for unpopular opinions and have sent the message loud and clear that a university campus is no place for controversial subjects to be debated
so people have a right or choice to murder! Which is what abortion is. Murdering an unborn child which doesn't have a choice to be eliminated because of its inconvenience to you or someone else who had the choice to have sex out of marriage when that child could be adopted out to some couple that could not have children and choose that child as their own and gave it a life which could bless the world and create life.
@ANM724 Abortion is actually related to feeling chained, trapped, or cornered that women supposedly have NO CHOICE, but to get it. Abortion is not actually in line with Pro-choice.
@Creationcreed Thank you for posting. What you said is true. I work with a ministry that loves and counsels abortion-minded women and I have never met a woman that truly wanted to kill their child. It's always fear of something or someone that drives them to make this decision, and it's always regretted...
Forcing police to arrest you because you're making a nuisance of yourself doesn't lend any credence to your beliefs. I don't care how much tuition your daddy pays, sweetheart, the university is still private property and the university has a right to keep it pleasant and welcoming.
Honestly, Carleton kids need to stop protesting every damn thing under the sun. I can't even walk through UniCentre without getting like twelve pamphlets thrust into my hands these days. Grow up. Get a real hobby.
A public funded university is deemed by the officers to be a private property and a bar where the government has no investment, is a "public space" meaning smoking bans are legal? How twisted is that?
The government can initiate a multi-billion dollar lobby group hate campaign against smokers, to normalize the massive taxing of an addiction, utilizing so called "graphic images" on cigarette packages, to drive their point home. Yet a private citizen can be arrested for doing exactly the same thing, in hopes of saving babies from being butchered?
It is obvious that at Carlton, students are being taught what to think and not how.
@shayton519 so you think that killing babies is okay? killing something that will soon be out of a womans stomach and having a life? A baby is alive, even if its just conceived. Abortion is wrong in all ways. its called read a bible and dont be/think on the lines of a MURDERER. prolife<3...because i dont kill.
@XxTayxTay THIS. Regardless of whether you're a Christian or not, science PROVES that a baby is a human from the moment it's conceived!! I think many people are just trying to deny this for whatever reason, unfortunately...
Keep your opinions to yourself I don't want all this shit thrown in my face everywhere I go. Think whatever you like but don't try to force it upon me. Enjoy your fine and/or jail time.
Hey dipstick, guess what? You just practiced freedom of expression to talk about how you disagreed with those who are helping to keep it alive. Next time, think about what the heck you're saying before you open your mouth.
So I watched this and I have to say it irked me a little. Before I get into why I was frustrated, let me say that I am adamantly pro-life on the grounds that this view is consistent with my biblically-grounded, Christian outlook. However, there is such a thing as private property, which these students failed to acknowledge. Protest in the streets, on sidewalks, and on your own property. When you go onto private property that you do not own, you risk being charged with trespassing. Sorry.
@ahunt071 Despite the fact that I disagree with the content of their protest, I think they should have the right to protest in a peaceful manner. But it doesn't matter what I think, the charter grants them the right, and that they were arrested is disgusting.
feel that they can not get to classes because of their protest. they were warned. they could have taken it up with student federations and what not instead of making a stink. I personally am glad they got arrested, more so the girl. He even stated there are areas to go to protest. Legally there are certain locations protest can be set up because of safety regulations and issues. this is usually also the 'public' areas of the campus where reports and press are allowed as well.
I think she and the students over stepped their boundaries. And if they wanted to get their point across they are more than welcome to go to the university with what they want to protest and get permission to do so ahead of time. Obviously their posters were offensive. and I saw some Nazi symbols and what not on their board. Nor did they take into effect other factors, like not all people want to see that while trying to go to classes.. And you are not allowed to obstruct or make people
@kuspegan No - it's a subtle difference. They've not criminalized it. Abortion currently exists in a legal vacuum that is why abortions can be preformed.
Section 7. gave the supreme court the ability to strike down the law, but nothing has replaced it.
It baffles me why people are always so one sided when it comes to "rights." The Univeristy, being private property, has the right to refuse any person or anything it feels like without having to justify it. These retarded demonstrators forget that their right to protest and free speech is only effective when executed on public property. Even a LAWS1000 student should know that you have minimal Charter protection on private property. What an EPIC FAIL.
I don't get it. Carleton University IS considered private property and you can find this documentation easily, they refused their allocated space that the University gave them for their demonstration, their imagery was deemed offensive not their message, The group [was] sponsered by the student association and usually when a group gives money to a club, there's some sort of approval needed from sponsors which was ignored on the protestors part. Anyone else see them as being the ones at fault?
@keeper64 Carleton University is a public government funded institution. It's not "private property" in the sense of being privately owned, it's entirely government/public property.
@keeper64 their allocated space was a closed area where few people were there...they simply didn't want them in an area where it was effective, where many people were around. It is pure censorship and you are trying to rationalize it. The imagery is part of the message. You are just rationalizing. They don't need any money to run the club, they can do it on their own. No money was needed to do what they did. You are just an intellectual whore rationalizing the censorship because it's disturbing.
I'm a woman and I KNOW that I don't have a right to decide the fate of the baby that would be inside me. That's GOD'S choice ALONE. I don't understand what the heck is getting into so many women that they would allow themselves to think they have the "rights" otherwise.
Yes, but I can tell you about the primal thought pattern of a woman. And even if you didn't believe in God, (which you should, it's good to know the truth) Survival of the fittest, the race for survival, would still demand that the person gets a chance to enter the race first. Human instinct is to reproduce. It goes against mental barriers that have been present among the generations. These are all obvious signs that it is wrong, and its un-natural.
Human instinct is to reproduce, and our bodies are equipped to do so. For example, a female produces an egg every month that has the potential to be fertilized. Do you think that a female should try to have every egg she produces fertilized? I assume you are not in a constant state of trying to get pregnant?
NO. That's a point in the pro-life debate. Not every egg is fertilized. When it is, it's something special, something that should be protected, because the woman can go on after an abortion. The baby can't.
Think of the infertile couples who can't have a baby. That fetus the woman is going to destroy could be a new bond and love between a husband and wife.
@metalixmillenium15 I gotta respond to this, despite being 5 months late. If we don't have abortions and birth control, then we as a species are going to fuck ourselves to death. It sounds bad, but kids are environmentally the WORST things you could possibly make/do. Resources used and environmental impact are unparalleled. In the next five or so years, we will have 9 billion people on the earth. If we continue at our exponential growth rate, we won't have enough resources to sustain the pop.
@metalixmillenium15 We'll have massive losses of life through starvation and inability to feed the massive amount of people. So abortion may not be "right" to you, but it's certainly better than the mass deaths your approach will inevitably cause.
@beek420 I love how the student was quoting human rights protections in her defense in an effort to protect the most innocent their human rights.. she rocks.
i hate it when dumb people don't understand what they're saying while trying to act smart and pretend like they know half the shit that came out of their mouth when they just regurgitated it from their little hand books. Yes i'm talking to you in the blue sweater. You repeat the same shit over and over again doesn't mean jack shit when you don't understand that you're on private property owned by the university and although they've provided you a place to protest, you choose to not take it,
hmm, i think they shuld be allowed to demonstrate but pro life is an idiotic stance to take, it takes away the rights of the women in order to serve "gods" will, and ignored rational thought
I personally see that comparing abortion to genocide is slanderous, and don’t condone such a comparison and think that in doing so the university had a right to censor them from a public display in the tory quad. However I do believe that Carleton Life Line should have the right to display their pictures (without any slanderous holocaust statements) in the quad as such photos do not depict anything illegal or graphic, no human was killed or hurt. These photos are simply biological specimens.
I cannot believe that they were actually arrested. The students were so brave! They have a right, and were prepared to show it. If they were not tuition paying students, then maybe you could argue this but not in this case. This is bullshit - no matter what your opinions on this issue.
combined with research and student bodies cannot pamper or afford special liberties to people who believe they are above and beyond the individuals they claim to be acting as a part of. To those who were involved, I am sorry you feel hurt. To those who are judging without knowing all the facts, please educate yourselves first before condemning an institution with a long and proud educational legacy. Lets everyone, opponents and proponents, get a little perspective.
This is unfair to all the other groups, charaties, and advocacy organizations that were denied this same venue; why does this particular group feel they have freedoms and abilities above and beyond those of others? I have no issue with protest, and Carleton university, as an educational institution, is founded on the values of free speech and fostering varied opinions. Do not debase or attack the university because you feel persicuted because an organization as large as our university
The university governing bodies did not infringe, limit or neglect the rights guarenteed to every Canadian through the Charter of Rights and Freedoms by not allowing this protest; and to claim so is to devalue the essence of those rights in fairness and good governance. This group of students were offered an alternative venue to hold this protest, and they knowingly declined, insisting instead of holding a protest on a piece of land in the direct middle of the instructional district.
My personal position on abortion and life/choice arguments have no factor in what I say here. As a student studying both politics and law AT Carleton, I can say with conviction that as a member of both the university and student unions did not show fault is prohibiting this protest. Being a student at the university does NOT give the student lease-holder rights, and the university campus, although recieving subsidies from the Canadian government, is in no way public property.
We should actually phone the Ottawa Police -- do you have their number? They're responsible for making this arrest, no matter how ignorant or corrupt the University authorities are.
Does she have to pay student union dues? If so, then she should sue the union as well. The union was willfully negligent, by not defending these 4 students.
Good job, students. We needed to force them to play their hand. The university cares about only its own opinions. This will make it easier for the public to see how bad the university is.
They can sue the school for that. Not only is it their constitutional right to peacefully protest, but even their school charter says they can protest in public.
Both the police officers and the dean violated the protesters' civil rights, and violated their student rights as declared by their institution. I would honestly be surprised if they did not have a major lawsuit on the school.
The courage that these students have encourage me tremendously. This is an issue of freedom of speech. Another familiar scene was on the 60's in the United States. Black student protesters compared the killings of the Black population to the killings in the Holocaust. And they were arrested as well. This too was an infringement on their freedom of speech.
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT - only obvious Nazis would be offended with the comparisons of the Nazi insignia to the genocide of Blacks, Latinos, etc. through abortion.
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT - only obvious Nazis would be offended with the comparisons of the Nazi insignia to the genocide of Blacks, Latinos, etc. through abortion.
This is exactely why I resigned from CUSA ... I support the right to free speech on campus. I am truly ashamed of being a Carleton alumni. This is a total disgrace. Shame on Carleton.
Bravo for the Pro Life Students. God Bless her for her back bone. SHAME!!!! On the university for their disgusting lack of respect for the paying students to speak their God given right to free speech. I hope any students who are pro life leave that university and give their hard earned money to a University that appreciates students like these.
@PT1231 You fail to recognize that the university, as property owner, has the "God given right" (whatever the fuck that means) to decide who and what is acceptable on that property. If those students have a problem with their treatment, then they should have RESPECTED the university's wishes, calmly left, and taken their case to court in a civilized fashion. Respect and rights are a two way street you know.
@PT1231 Free speech does not entitle one to communicate whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want. These pro life students should of been removed. There displays were graphic to the point were they could be considered harassment of the general student body...
@blackbetts I agree, abortion is just a routine procedure. However, the pictures near the end relating people being hanged and Nazism to abortion didn't feel comparable.
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What about women who need abortions for safety? They should be told that abortion is wrong so they should risk dying to have a baby, or have a baby knowing it will die? I don't find it fair to try taking away another woman's rights. It should be HER decision in the end whether or not she thinks she should have the baby.
Do these officiers have no training what so ever in the laws of there land. Totally unwarranted arrest. Every officer involved in this should lose there position or at the very least be suspended!
@DWaller1978 You are so wrong. It is you that has no training in the laws of the land. The police lawfully conducted an arrest in accordance with the provincial Trespass to Property Act. The university is private property; the adminstration is the property owner; the property owner offered alternative solutions to the dumb girl and she refused to comply; the administration requested that police remove a clueless brat; the police agreed. Case closed. This is basic law - learn it.
If a girl with a sign is threatening enough to a University that she needs to be arrested by no less than five police officers and ridiculed ignorantly by dozens of YouTube trolls, I think she has a point worth making. Keep fighting for the unborn, Carleton pro-lifers!! Their witness will be your defense.
@augmira Let me guess your pro life? That would automatically make you heavily biased in this situation, I would also like to ask where she is being ridiculed, because ive read through post and all I see is people disagreeing with you, thats not ridicule.
I also noticed how you didnt point out her ridicule of the millions killed during the holocaust, anything youd like to add to that argument?
Amazing footage of an incredible travesty of freedom of speech. A sad, sad day for the students of Canada. Thank you to all the peaceful protesters who didn't back down or buy the argument the university president was trying to hang onto.
@xtrashed Theres a difference between seeing what happens and comparing it to the genocide of millions of people, who were murdered by a pychopathic, hypocritical bigot.
I saw their posters in person and they were an absolute disgrace
I have no idea what you are talking about. What your seeing on the posters is the reality of abortion. If that really is such a horror to you, then why do you support abortion in the first place. Can't you handle seeing the reality of a baby being murdered?
I did not put words in to your mouth. There is a literal holocaust going on. Do you know the science of abortion? What happens to the baby? The research that has come out that has said babies feel pain in the womb? How can you not care what else somebody else does with their body. If you educate women that abortion is not the right choice, that killing their baby is not the answer, it would not mean shoddy abortions in the background.
@xtrashed Yes im aware of the science of abortion, and theres always research, if you were scientifically aware you would also know that there is always conflicting research. Do you know that most abortions occur when the "baby" isnt a baby, its a mass of cells. You can educate women all you want, the tried that in the 40's and 50's you want to know what that led to?
Just so we're 100% clear. You believe that a baby with a beating heart, a developing brain, and often ears that can hear is a "mass of cells"?
Is that the position you're taking?
Because the propaganda of the abortionists regarding what is actually being killed is factually inaccurate. And I believe you're purposefully misleading people with these incorrect statements.
I understand why abortionists want mothers to believe it's just a mass of cells because that makes the psychological implications of what they're doing easier to overcome. But for you to repeat these factually incorrect statements tells me that you don’t know the facts yourself.
You should stop calling it a mass of cells when 61.3% of babies are aborted between the 4th and 9th week of development and the remaining 38.7% are aborted during the 10th week or later.
The moment of conception a new life comes into being, the DNA, the genetic blueprint is there, the sex is determined, the blood type is determined, a unique set of blueprints is there.
A clump of cells if you get it early enough, it does not look like a child?
The unborn human being does not look like a baby the same way a baby does not look like a teenager, a teenager does not look like a senior, but that is how human beings look at that stage of development. Human life continues to grow and change.
Some people say if you get it at a certain time it is okay. According to the law of biogenesis all life comes from pre existing previous life, and each species reproduces after its own kind, therefore human beings can only reproduce other human beings, so it does not start out as one thing and turn in to something else along the way.
Some people will say it is a woman’s body, it is her choice?
There is a 50% chance that a women will be pregnant with a male child, and he would have a penis, women do not have penises, therefore it is residing in her body, it is not part of her body, And the bottom line is I really believe if the unborn is not a human being have as many abortions as you like, no justification is necessary
If on the other hand the unborn is a human being no justification is adequate, unless the mother’s life is in danger, but then you would not be acting to kill, you would be acting to safe a life. And I also believe that when an abortion takes place there are two victims, women are not given all the facts.
This whole thing about back alley abortions happening because there is not enough funding for it or because we make it illegal is a myth. That stuff comes about because the girl is ashamed, she does not want to deal with the scrutiny or she does not want to deal with the consequences that comes about from an unwanted pregnancy.
Punk ass follower programmed by lines and commands found in a constiution? WOW. It is all coming together now...you're one of THOSE people...Freemen on the land types??? You probably think you are entitled to do whatever you please, whenever and wherever you want because of some self-righteous belief that you are unique, special, and intellectually superior than everyone else. Good luck with life big boy...you're going to need it.
@monitorpolski You actual just compared someones arrest to Nazi Fascism? Seriously? Did you even look at the despicable crap these people are doing? They are MOCKING the HOLOCAUST
You go ahead and support that, I dont understand how any of you people can support this twisted garbage, Im a Carleton student, and when I saw those posters I wanted to tear them down myself
@DragonsRequiem Holocaust is on the making in Iraq and Afganistan at this time. The other Holocaust took place 70 years ago - we should concentrate on evil which is taking place now. There were 12 million Poles killed during the war and we Poles are not using this argument for commercial purpose.
@monitorpolski How exactly is that a commercial purpose? Im aware that there are other genocides taking place, the argument isnt against that, its that there use of past tragedy is being used to support a point of view they are attempting to force on people
Not a fan of protests or inflammatory billboards but this is devastating to all who value freedom of speech on our university campuses - whether pro-choice or pro-life. Shame on you Carleton University and Ottawa Police!
For the last time people...YOU ARE NOT PROTECTED BY CHARTER RIGHTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. If you bothered to learn anything about the law you would know that the Charter only protects people against state actions, not private property owners. That girl was nothing but a self-righteous nuissance. The arrest was 100% lawful. Why do so many of you think that you can do whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want? Did it ever occur to you that other people have rights to?
@xXxLovEMasTerxXx911 Another bleeding heart delusional hippy? That girl completely embarrassed herself. What kind of fucking retard quotes the Carleton Students Rights and Responsibilities to a police officer? As if they give a shit about an internal document that was created by some 9th year undergrad. LOSERS.
@balepsychobat I would care the less about an Indian girl who thinks her word is heard nowadays having blended and caught some knowledge, nor do i care for a punk ass follower who is programmed by commands and lines found in a constitution!
Yes we all have rights, I agree and understand...but any group big or small have that right to assemble and speak out as long as its peaceful...but I was corrected about university property being private property, this small group should of asked for permission to hold their protest on campus property to begin with or hold their protest off campus, like at a near by park...etc?
I am an acquaintance of this girl and know her family. They are respectable law abiding Citizens and people of faith. As a Canadian citizen, and therefore a promoter and defender of Democracy, I find the acts of Carleton University reprehensible and contrary to the Democratic spirit of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech. This is a shameful display on part of the publicly funded University and deeply saddens me as a free-born Citizen of this so-called free Nation.
@videofriendly2010 Well if you took the time to understand property laws then maybe you wouldn't be having such a knee jerk reaction. Carleton University is private property...which means the administration has ultimate authority for who and what is permitted on the campus. You do NOT have Charter of Rights and Freedoms protection on private property. Did you ever stop to consider that the university might have "rights" as well...it's not always one sided.
If I pay for a Gym membership, I can't legally put up posters in the gym supporting my stance on politics if the owner disagrees. Besides, Anti-choice is a popular opinion, don't fool yourself madam.
glitchuser4 2 weeks ago
Wow, I cannot believe this. Well, I'm glad I didn't apply to Carleton...
thinkgreenlovepurple 1 month ago
Wonder if people handing out free condoms on this campus would be told to go and distribute them in a room under threat of trespassing on private property?
Liars always try to put the truth in chains ...
WhisperPathsOfLight 1 month ago
Whether you agree with them or not is moot. They were protesting on private property, they were notified by the property owner that they were not welcome to protest there, they declined to leave, ergo, they were arrested. They broke the law, plain and simple.
ceruleanblue777 1 month ago 3
@ceruleanblue777
They are members of a student organization at the university, and are thus entitled to the use of university property.
HurricaneTeen 1 month ago
@HurricaneTeen, Incorrect. The rights of the property owners ultimately trump any rights afforded to student organizations. Students are not entitled to use university grounds as they please, they are beholden to the whims of the property owners. This is basic private property law. Whether or not the university acted ethically is irrelevant to the application of the law.
ceruleanblue777 1 week ago
@ceruleanblue777 University campuses are technically private property. However, with the fact that there are only three facilities for higher education in Ottawa which most of the post-high school age group attend, it is very much a public place in terms of social implications. I know that U of O does a very anti-semetic Israel apartheid week demonstration annually, and nobody bans them. Again, these universities are very much socially public places, they cannot chose sides politically.
Bobanamanamo 1 week ago
@Bobanamanamo, Correction: they SHOULD not choose sides politically. However, they do. The law sides with the university as the property owners. Your opinion (and mine) is irrelavant to the legal application of the law.
ceruleanblue777 1 week ago
@ceruleanblue777 Very true. However, even private property has laws. Workplace harassment for example, cannot be done on public or private property. And during the demonstration you saw the protesters reiterate their rights that the university itself put in place. Around 1:54 you literally hear security stand there with a big dumb look and say "oh..." while the administrator looks the other direction. Public, private, doesn't matter. Carleton was in violation of both federal and its own laws.
Bobanamanamo 1 week ago
I seriously think you need to check into a mental health hospital. Just read the law and the rules. If you hate the system so much and are so convinced of you correctness, why don't you stop composing psychotic rants on Youtube and initiate a legal challenge?
balepsychobat 2 months ago
Oh boy, the United States is becoming more like communist Russia!
DannyTheRanger 2 months ago
Oh boy, the United States is becoming more like England.
ConspiracyChannel101 3 months ago
That's a weird looking kitchen
zestymordant7 3 months ago 2
Don't they have more better things to do ? like homework, studying for some quizzes / exams / and what not ?
azntranc3951 4 months ago
@azntranc3951 university students are generally useless, Look at the occupy movement........
Megastephen1o1 3 months ago
@Megastephen1o1
true. it gets worse with people who are in arts or liberal arts.
ask engineering kids if t hey care and they'll look you in the face and say "As if I dont have other shit to do..."
azntranc3951 3 months ago
"Without freedom of expression we have nothing."
Wrong. You have next years tuition to find a new campus that is tolerable of your views.
ngink 4 months ago
Once I wrote something about abortion on gaming site GameSpot and the site moderated my message and sent me a warning of canceling my account if it repeat again...
RicardodeSene 4 months ago
Ruth and everybody else, you are an inspiration to us all. Yup, Carleton University has a place for unpopular opinions and have sent the message loud and clear that a university campus is no place for controversial subjects to be debated
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standingontruth1 4 months ago in playlist Pro-life
so people have a right or choice to murder! Which is what abortion is. Murdering an unborn child which doesn't have a choice to be eliminated because of its inconvenience to you or someone else who had the choice to have sex out of marriage when that child could be adopted out to some couple that could not have children and choose that child as their own and gave it a life which could bless the world and create life.
JohnSanderson2011 4 months ago
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So...I'm pro-choice.
Anybody wanna argue?
golddustrapedmydad 4 months ago
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stephenwood4 4 months ago
university students are so lost and out of touch with reality.
faheykj 5 months ago
I love how the student was quoting human rights protections in her defense in an effort to take away the rights of women. she rocks
ANM724 5 months ago
@ANM724 Abortion is actually related to feeling chained, trapped, or cornered that women supposedly have NO CHOICE, but to get it. Abortion is not actually in line with Pro-choice.
Creationcreed 5 months ago
@Creationcreed Thank you for posting. What you said is true. I work with a ministry that loves and counsels abortion-minded women and I have never met a woman that truly wanted to kill their child. It's always fear of something or someone that drives them to make this decision, and it's always regretted...
PathThroughSamaria 4 months ago
KEEP UP THE FIGHT, IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO PROTEST, DON'T LET ANYONE STOP YOU! JESUS WAS ALSO PERSECUTED.
carmel350 6 months ago
Forcing police to arrest you because you're making a nuisance of yourself doesn't lend any credence to your beliefs. I don't care how much tuition your daddy pays, sweetheart, the university is still private property and the university has a right to keep it pleasant and welcoming.
Honestly, Carleton kids need to stop protesting every damn thing under the sun. I can't even walk through UniCentre without getting like twelve pamphlets thrust into my hands these days. Grow up. Get a real hobby.
justwatchit4521 6 months ago
A public funded university is deemed by the officers to be a private property and a bar where the government has no investment, is a "public space" meaning smoking bans are legal? How twisted is that?
THEFXR 7 months ago
The government can initiate a multi-billion dollar lobby group hate campaign against smokers, to normalize the massive taxing of an addiction, utilizing so called "graphic images" on cigarette packages, to drive their point home. Yet a private citizen can be arrested for doing exactly the same thing, in hopes of saving babies from being butchered?
It is obvious that at Carlton, students are being taught what to think and not how.
THEFXR 7 months ago
well I had an abortion your going to fucking judge me
41gagavision 8 months ago 2
The new 1st: Freedom of SELECTIVE speech.
quirkjerks 8 months ago
Brave young people who are so wise so young. Thankyou for showing this evil.
Mariabott 8 months ago
you're so stuck on "freedom", well freedom is the act of CHOICE. Pro-CHOICE.
shayton519 8 months ago
@shayton519 What about their free choice to expose the truth of abortion?
LM1234Life 4 months ago
@shayton519
When you abort a child, you take the rights away from a child. Now, how about you think about what you said.
ConspiracyChannel101 3 months ago
@shayton519 so you think that killing babies is okay? killing something that will soon be out of a womans stomach and having a life? A baby is alive, even if its just conceived. Abortion is wrong in all ways. its called read a bible and dont be/think on the lines of a MURDERER. prolife<3...because i dont kill.
XxTayxTay 2 months ago
@XxTayxTay THIS. Regardless of whether you're a Christian or not, science PROVES that a baby is a human from the moment it's conceived!! I think many people are just trying to deny this for whatever reason, unfortunately...
serenitysky18 2 months ago
hey look its that faggot craig!
nayaolympia 9 months ago
I'm a Man and i feel abortion is DISGUSTING and IMMORAL...that's why you can count on me of never having one anytime in the future.
sunshinecrix 9 months ago
Keep your opinions to yourself I don't want all this shit thrown in my face everywhere I go. Think whatever you like but don't try to force it upon me. Enjoy your fine and/or jail time.
finekilla 10 months ago
@finekilla
Hey dipstick, guess what? You just practiced freedom of expression to talk about how you disagreed with those who are helping to keep it alive. Next time, think about what the heck you're saying before you open your mouth.
metalixmillenium15 9 months ago
This idiots need to be Locked up once and for all
HowardSternn 10 months ago
ba ba ba another one bites the dust!
MatteoLouter 10 months ago
So I watched this and I have to say it irked me a little. Before I get into why I was frustrated, let me say that I am adamantly pro-life on the grounds that this view is consistent with my biblically-grounded, Christian outlook. However, there is such a thing as private property, which these students failed to acknowledge. Protest in the streets, on sidewalks, and on your own property. When you go onto private property that you do not own, you risk being charged with trespassing. Sorry.
ahunt071 10 months ago
@ahunt071 Despite the fact that I disagree with the content of their protest, I think they should have the right to protest in a peaceful manner. But it doesn't matter what I think, the charter grants them the right, and that they were arrested is disgusting.
AsSomedayItMayHappen 6 months ago
feel that they can not get to classes because of their protest. they were warned. they could have taken it up with student federations and what not instead of making a stink. I personally am glad they got arrested, more so the girl. He even stated there are areas to go to protest. Legally there are certain locations protest can be set up because of safety regulations and issues. this is usually also the 'public' areas of the campus where reports and press are allowed as well.
dreamofme2012 11 months ago
I think she and the students over stepped their boundaries. And if they wanted to get their point across they are more than welcome to go to the university with what they want to protest and get permission to do so ahead of time. Obviously their posters were offensive. and I saw some Nazi symbols and what not on their board. Nor did they take into effect other factors, like not all people want to see that while trying to go to classes.. And you are not allowed to obstruct or make people
dreamofme2012 11 months ago
@kuspegan No - it's a subtle difference. They've not criminalized it. Abortion currently exists in a legal vacuum that is why abortions can be preformed.
Section 7. gave the supreme court the ability to strike down the law, but nothing has replaced it.
TimeWasted55 11 months ago
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imabadking 11 months ago
I don't like that they were arrested.If she was protesting the government, would she still be put away? It's actually bullshit.
yyGODyy 1 year ago
I don't like that they were arrested. I'm sure that's against the law.
yyGODyy 1 year ago
@yyGODyy how is it against the law to arrest someone? They were trespassing...
mlefevre92 10 months ago
The cop was being delicate, a nice change
yyGODyy 1 year ago 2
It baffles me why people are always so one sided when it comes to "rights." The Univeristy, being private property, has the right to refuse any person or anything it feels like without having to justify it. These retarded demonstrators forget that their right to protest and free speech is only effective when executed on public property. Even a LAWS1000 student should know that you have minimal Charter protection on private property. What an EPIC FAIL.
balepsychobat 1 year ago 2
I don't get it. Carleton University IS considered private property and you can find this documentation easily, they refused their allocated space that the University gave them for their demonstration, their imagery was deemed offensive not their message, The group [was] sponsered by the student association and usually when a group gives money to a club, there's some sort of approval needed from sponsors which was ignored on the protestors part. Anyone else see them as being the ones at fault?
keeper64 1 year ago 4
@keeper64 Carleton University is a public government funded institution. It's not "private property" in the sense of being privately owned, it's entirely government/public property.
lonewolf1369 2 months ago
@keeper64 their allocated space was a closed area where few people were there...they simply didn't want them in an area where it was effective, where many people were around. It is pure censorship and you are trying to rationalize it. The imagery is part of the message. You are just rationalizing. They don't need any money to run the club, they can do it on their own. No money was needed to do what they did. You are just an intellectual whore rationalizing the censorship because it's disturbing.
lonewolf1369 2 months ago
I love how the student was quoting human rights protections in her defense in an effort to deny others their human rights.. hypocrite.
beek420 1 year ago 2
@beek420 What are you talking about?
davidn87 9 months ago
@davidn87 A woman's right to an abortion.
beek420 9 months ago
@beek420 I'm not the best at putting things into words, but I don't believe anyone should have a "right" to kill anyone else.
davidn87 9 months ago
@beek420
I'm a woman and I KNOW that I don't have a right to decide the fate of the baby that would be inside me. That's GOD'S choice ALONE. I don't understand what the heck is getting into so many women that they would allow themselves to think they have the "rights" otherwise.
metalixmillenium15 9 months ago
@metalixmillenium15
Just because you are a woman, doesn't mean you speak for all women.
And just because you believe in a god, doesn't mean everyone else does as well.
beek420 9 months ago
@beek420
Yes, but I can tell you about the primal thought pattern of a woman. And even if you didn't believe in God, (which you should, it's good to know the truth) Survival of the fittest, the race for survival, would still demand that the person gets a chance to enter the race first. Human instinct is to reproduce. It goes against mental barriers that have been present among the generations. These are all obvious signs that it is wrong, and its un-natural.
metalixmillenium15 9 months ago
@metalixmillenium15
Human instinct is to reproduce, and our bodies are equipped to do so. For example, a female produces an egg every month that has the potential to be fertilized. Do you think that a female should try to have every egg she produces fertilized? I assume you are not in a constant state of trying to get pregnant?
beek420 9 months ago
@beek420
NO. That's a point in the pro-life debate. Not every egg is fertilized. When it is, it's something special, something that should be protected, because the woman can go on after an abortion. The baby can't.
Think of the infertile couples who can't have a baby. That fetus the woman is going to destroy could be a new bond and love between a husband and wife.
metalixmillenium15 9 months ago
@metalixmillenium15 I gotta respond to this, despite being 5 months late. If we don't have abortions and birth control, then we as a species are going to fuck ourselves to death. It sounds bad, but kids are environmentally the WORST things you could possibly make/do. Resources used and environmental impact are unparalleled. In the next five or so years, we will have 9 billion people on the earth. If we continue at our exponential growth rate, we won't have enough resources to sustain the pop.
anonymousLeroy 4 months ago
@metalixmillenium15 We'll have massive losses of life through starvation and inability to feed the massive amount of people. So abortion may not be "right" to you, but it's certainly better than the mass deaths your approach will inevitably cause.
anonymousLeroy 4 months ago
@beek420 I love how the student was quoting human rights protections in her defense in an effort to protect the most innocent their human rights.. she rocks.
equitemcroce 8 months ago
@beek420 like all the dead babies rights to life?
JoshThe4th 3 months ago
your choice, your loss.They've given you ample warning and you choose to ignore it. now stop crying about it.
Yellowromeo 1 year ago
i hate it when dumb people don't understand what they're saying while trying to act smart and pretend like they know half the shit that came out of their mouth when they just regurgitated it from their little hand books. Yes i'm talking to you in the blue sweater. You repeat the same shit over and over again doesn't mean jack shit when you don't understand that you're on private property owned by the university and although they've provided you a place to protest, you choose to not take it,
Yellowromeo 1 year ago
Anyone who supports this happening is a piece of garbage. No way around it.
VoiceOfModeration 1 year ago
hmm, i think they shuld be allowed to demonstrate but pro life is an idiotic stance to take, it takes away the rights of the women in order to serve "gods" will, and ignored rational thought
firzen711 1 year ago
@firzen711 what about pro-life atheists like Christopher Hitchens or Matthew Wallace?
VoiceOfModeration 1 year ago
I'll admit i wouldn't have the balls to do what these kids did.
jamare456 1 year ago
that young lady look good in handcuffs lol
jamare456 1 year ago
I personally see that comparing abortion to genocide is slanderous, and don’t condone such a comparison and think that in doing so the university had a right to censor them from a public display in the tory quad. However I do believe that Carleton Life Line should have the right to display their pictures (without any slanderous holocaust statements) in the quad as such photos do not depict anything illegal or graphic, no human was killed or hurt. These photos are simply biological specimens.
canuckflyboy 1 year ago
I cannot believe that they were actually arrested. The students were so brave! They have a right, and were prepared to show it. If they were not tuition paying students, then maybe you could argue this but not in this case. This is bullshit - no matter what your opinions on this issue.
ziggylover2000 1 year ago
These students are shitheads. I particularly liked the chick crying in the background. Ohhh... what martyrs you are! Give me a break.
NoJamOnYourBread 1 year ago
you have to get a license to hold a protest. fucking idiots. plus @videofriendly2010 , carelton university is in minnesota… United States… Jesus
spmartin823 1 year ago
@spmartin823 Read the description, dipshit.
NoJamOnYourBread 1 year ago
@spmartin823 its in canada!
toraya123456 1 year ago
@spmartin823
Actually, moron, this Carleton University is in Ottawa Canada, and in Canada you don't need a license to hold a protest.
Llyranon 1 year ago
@spmartin823 Carleton COLLEGE is in Minnesota. Carleton UNIVERSITY is in Ottawa, Canada.
TheQueerPlatypus 1 year ago
This is some bull ish! Wow
promodel11 1 year ago
combined with research and student bodies cannot pamper or afford special liberties to people who believe they are above and beyond the individuals they claim to be acting as a part of. To those who were involved, I am sorry you feel hurt. To those who are judging without knowing all the facts, please educate yourselves first before condemning an institution with a long and proud educational legacy. Lets everyone, opponents and proponents, get a little perspective.
funkismylife91 1 year ago
This is unfair to all the other groups, charaties, and advocacy organizations that were denied this same venue; why does this particular group feel they have freedoms and abilities above and beyond those of others? I have no issue with protest, and Carleton university, as an educational institution, is founded on the values of free speech and fostering varied opinions. Do not debase or attack the university because you feel persicuted because an organization as large as our university
funkismylife91 1 year ago 2
The university governing bodies did not infringe, limit or neglect the rights guarenteed to every Canadian through the Charter of Rights and Freedoms by not allowing this protest; and to claim so is to devalue the essence of those rights in fairness and good governance. This group of students were offered an alternative venue to hold this protest, and they knowingly declined, insisting instead of holding a protest on a piece of land in the direct middle of the instructional district.
funkismylife91 1 year ago
My personal position on abortion and life/choice arguments have no factor in what I say here. As a student studying both politics and law AT Carleton, I can say with conviction that as a member of both the university and student unions did not show fault is prohibiting this protest. Being a student at the university does NOT give the student lease-holder rights, and the university campus, although recieving subsidies from the Canadian government, is in no way public property.
funkismylife91 1 year ago 2
whoaaa... what a shame. I'm passing this on through WebTC. Who's the girl? I wanna give her some props for this!
AAABeatbox 1 year ago
We should actually phone the Ottawa Police -- do you have their number? They're responsible for making this arrest, no matter how ignorant or corrupt the University authorities are.
boymowgli 1 year ago
@boymowgli I think the number is 911.
NoJamOnYourBread 1 year ago
Does she have to pay student union dues? If so, then she should sue the union as well. The union was willfully negligent, by not defending these 4 students.
eugenetswong 1 year ago
Good job, students. We needed to force them to play their hand. The university cares about only its own opinions. This will make it easier for the public to see how bad the university is.
eugenetswong 1 year ago
i phoned the president. do we need more world wars to develop an appreciation for basic rights and freedoms? share this video.
boymowgli 1 year ago
God bless you, Ruth Lobo. Shame on Carlton and its little weasel rep. Good job on the video - lets the rest of us SEE!
ShoutWhatYourHear 1 year ago
God bless you, Ruth Lobo. Shame on Carlton and its little weasel rep.
ShoutWhatYourHear 1 year ago
God bless you, Ruth Lobo. Same on Carlton and its little weasel rep.
ShoutWhatYourHear 1 year ago
They can sue the school for that. Not only is it their constitutional right to peacefully protest, but even their school charter says they can protest in public.
Both the police officers and the dean violated the protesters' civil rights, and violated their student rights as declared by their institution. I would honestly be surprised if they did not have a major lawsuit on the school.
RazgrizSeed 1 year ago
Shame on that University!! Where is freedom of speech?
alepeetz 1 year ago 2
wow thats bull
cpscsoccer13 1 year ago
shame on that university
tsotsoko 1 year ago
The courage that these students have encourage me tremendously. This is an issue of freedom of speech. Another familiar scene was on the 60's in the United States. Black student protesters compared the killings of the Black population to the killings in the Holocaust. And they were arrested as well. This too was an infringement on their freedom of speech.
Sharpeye1992 1 year ago
@Sharpeye1992 I agree. Their courage has encouraged me to stand up until we get arrested.
eugenetswong 1 year ago
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ummchoc 1 year ago
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I am a Carleton student, and I am personally shocked by the sheer number of idiots in the student population.
It is not OK to put up posters with fictitious incendiary pictures with Nazi insignia and claim it as "free speech".
to members of this group: please seek medical attention it is clear that you are deranged and disturbed.
NORTHERNKONFLIKT 1 year ago
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT - only obvious Nazis would be offended with the comparisons of the Nazi insignia to the genocide of Blacks, Latinos, etc. through abortion.
mikesmithmusic 1 year ago
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT - only obvious Nazis would be offended with the comparisons of the Nazi insignia to the genocide of Blacks, Latinos, etc. through abortion.
mikesmithmusic 1 year ago
This is exactely why I resigned from CUSA ... I support the right to free speech on campus. I am truly ashamed of being a Carleton alumni. This is a total disgrace. Shame on Carleton.
wturn086 1 year ago 2
This university puts out a lot of language about "tolerance". I guess we know what they are really about.
HomeRenoJack 1 year ago
Bravo for the Pro Life Students. God Bless her for her back bone. SHAME!!!! On the university for their disgusting lack of respect for the paying students to speak their God given right to free speech. I hope any students who are pro life leave that university and give their hard earned money to a University that appreciates students like these.
PT1231 1 year ago 5
@PT1231 You fail to recognize that the university, as property owner, has the "God given right" (whatever the fuck that means) to decide who and what is acceptable on that property. If those students have a problem with their treatment, then they should have RESPECTED the university's wishes, calmly left, and taken their case to court in a civilized fashion. Respect and rights are a two way street you know.
balepsychobat 1 year ago
@PT1231
Amen. This is absolutely ridiculous. I swear, every passing day America is moving closer to communism.
metalixmillenium15 9 months ago
@PT1231 Free speech does not entitle one to communicate whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want. These pro life students should of been removed. There displays were graphic to the point were they could be considered harassment of the general student body...
Andrew35044 5 months ago
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stevechuks89 1 year ago
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stevechuks89 1 year ago
@blackbetts I agree, abortion is just a routine procedure. However, the pictures near the end relating people being hanged and Nazism to abortion didn't feel comparable.
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What about women who need abortions for safety? They should be told that abortion is wrong so they should risk dying to have a baby, or have a baby knowing it will die? I don't find it fair to try taking away another woman's rights. It should be HER decision in the end whether or not she thinks she should have the baby.
Lyzziexbear 1 year ago
Do these officiers have no training what so ever in the laws of there land. Totally unwarranted arrest. Every officer involved in this should lose there position or at the very least be suspended!
DWaller1978 1 year ago
@DWaller1978 You are so wrong. It is you that has no training in the laws of the land. The police lawfully conducted an arrest in accordance with the provincial Trespass to Property Act. The university is private property; the adminstration is the property owner; the property owner offered alternative solutions to the dumb girl and she refused to comply; the administration requested that police remove a clueless brat; the police agreed. Case closed. This is basic law - learn it.
balepsychobat 1 year ago
If a girl with a sign is threatening enough to a University that she needs to be arrested by no less than five police officers and ridiculed ignorantly by dozens of YouTube trolls, I think she has a point worth making. Keep fighting for the unborn, Carleton pro-lifers!! Their witness will be your defense.
augmira 1 year ago 2
@augmira Let me guess your pro life? That would automatically make you heavily biased in this situation, I would also like to ask where she is being ridiculed, because ive read through post and all I see is people disagreeing with you, thats not ridicule.
I also noticed how you didnt point out her ridicule of the millions killed during the holocaust, anything youd like to add to that argument?
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
Amazing footage of an incredible travesty of freedom of speech. A sad, sad day for the students of Canada. Thank you to all the peaceful protesters who didn't back down or buy the argument the university president was trying to hang onto.
Kelrzuad 1 year ago
these people shuld be arrested there posters are disgusting
leafsfan234 1 year ago
@leafsfan234
Why shouldn't people see the reality of what happens to a baby in the womb? People should not be shielded from it.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@xtrashed Theres a difference between seeing what happens and comparing it to the genocide of millions of people, who were murdered by a pychopathic, hypocritical bigot.
I saw their posters in person and they were an absolute disgrace
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
I have no idea what you are talking about. What your seeing on the posters is the reality of abortion. If that really is such a horror to you, then why do you support abortion in the first place. Can't you handle seeing the reality of a baby being murdered?
xtrashed 1 year ago
@xtrashed I have no issue with them showing an aborted fetus
I do take issue to them comparing it to the Holocaust, that is my issue with there posters, in the future refrain from trying to put words in my mouth
I am pro choice because I dont believe what someone does with their body is anyone elses damn buisness
Making abortion illegal doesnt mean fewer abortions, it just means more shoddy abortions
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
I did not put words in to your mouth. There is a literal holocaust going on. Do you know the science of abortion? What happens to the baby? The research that has come out that has said babies feel pain in the womb? How can you not care what else somebody else does with their body. If you educate women that abortion is not the right choice, that killing their baby is not the answer, it would not mean shoddy abortions in the background.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@xtrashed Yes im aware of the science of abortion, and theres always research, if you were scientifically aware you would also know that there is always conflicting research. Do you know that most abortions occur when the "baby" isnt a baby, its a mass of cells. You can educate women all you want, the tried that in the 40's and 50's you want to know what that led to?
A coathanger
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
Just so we're 100% clear. You believe that a baby with a beating heart, a developing brain, and often ears that can hear is a "mass of cells"?
Is that the position you're taking?
Because the propaganda of the abortionists regarding what is actually being killed is factually inaccurate. And I believe you're purposefully misleading people with these incorrect statements.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
I understand why abortionists want mothers to believe it's just a mass of cells because that makes the psychological implications of what they're doing easier to overcome. But for you to repeat these factually incorrect statements tells me that you don’t know the facts yourself.
You should stop calling it a mass of cells when 61.3% of babies are aborted between the 4th and 9th week of development and the remaining 38.7% are aborted during the 10th week or later.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
The moment of conception a new life comes into being, the DNA, the genetic blueprint is there, the sex is determined, the blood type is determined, a unique set of blueprints is there.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
A clump of cells if you get it early enough, it does not look like a child?
The unborn human being does not look like a baby the same way a baby does not look like a teenager, a teenager does not look like a senior, but that is how human beings look at that stage of development. Human life continues to grow and change.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
Some people say if you get it at a certain time it is okay. According to the law of biogenesis all life comes from pre existing previous life, and each species reproduces after its own kind, therefore human beings can only reproduce other human beings, so it does not start out as one thing and turn in to something else along the way.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
Some people will say it is a woman’s body, it is her choice?
There is a 50% chance that a women will be pregnant with a male child, and he would have a penis, women do not have penises, therefore it is residing in her body, it is not part of her body, And the bottom line is I really believe if the unborn is not a human being have as many abortions as you like, no justification is necessary
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
If on the other hand the unborn is a human being no justification is adequate, unless the mother’s life is in danger, but then you would not be acting to kill, you would be acting to safe a life. And I also believe that when an abortion takes place there are two victims, women are not given all the facts.
xtrashed 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem
This whole thing about back alley abortions happening because there is not enough funding for it or because we make it illegal is a myth. That stuff comes about because the girl is ashamed, she does not want to deal with the scrutiny or she does not want to deal with the consequences that comes about from an unwanted pregnancy.
xtrashed 1 year ago
Wow 33 people don't care if they have rights? No wonder our world is in the state it is in.
RasaRevive 1 year ago
hahahahaha
ShroomSamich 1 year ago
Punk ass follower programmed by lines and commands found in a constiution? WOW. It is all coming together now...you're one of THOSE people...Freemen on the land types??? You probably think you are entitled to do whatever you please, whenever and wherever you want because of some self-righteous belief that you are unique, special, and intellectually superior than everyone else. Good luck with life big boy...you're going to need it.
balepsychobat 1 year ago
Welcome to the fascism. What's next? Concentration camps, gassing of dissidents? First they burned books, next they burned the people.
monitorpolski 1 year ago
@monitorpolski You actual just compared someones arrest to Nazi Fascism? Seriously? Did you even look at the despicable crap these people are doing? They are MOCKING the HOLOCAUST
You go ahead and support that, I dont understand how any of you people can support this twisted garbage, Im a Carleton student, and when I saw those posters I wanted to tear them down myself
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
@DragonsRequiem Holocaust is on the making in Iraq and Afganistan at this time. The other Holocaust took place 70 years ago - we should concentrate on evil which is taking place now. There were 12 million Poles killed during the war and we Poles are not using this argument for commercial purpose.
monitorpolski 1 year ago
@monitorpolski How exactly is that a commercial purpose? Im aware that there are other genocides taking place, the argument isnt against that, its that there use of past tragedy is being used to support a point of view they are attempting to force on people
DragonsRequiem 1 year ago
YOU GO GIRL! (and her friends!)
LoorneDoone 1 year ago
@WilliamHairhole more relevant and intelligible campaigns such as what?
ARCtheElite 1 year ago
DESPICABLE!
Even pro-choice students must see this as shameful.
heinleinb2 1 year ago 12
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Not a fan of protests or inflammatory billboards but this is devastating to all who value freedom of speech on our university campuses - whether pro-choice or pro-life. Shame on you Carleton University and Ottawa Police!
lolanstan 1 year ago
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lolanstan 1 year ago
For the last time people...YOU ARE NOT PROTECTED BY CHARTER RIGHTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. If you bothered to learn anything about the law you would know that the Charter only protects people against state actions, not private property owners. That girl was nothing but a self-righteous nuissance. The arrest was 100% lawful. Why do so many of you think that you can do whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want? Did it ever occur to you that other people have rights to?
balepsychobat 1 year ago 2
@balepsychobat ...Zionist?!
xXxLovEMasTerxXx911 1 year ago
@xXxLovEMasTerxXx911 Another bleeding heart delusional hippy? That girl completely embarrassed herself. What kind of fucking retard quotes the Carleton Students Rights and Responsibilities to a police officer? As if they give a shit about an internal document that was created by some 9th year undergrad. LOSERS.
balepsychobat 1 year ago
@balepsychobat I would care the less about an Indian girl who thinks her word is heard nowadays having blended and caught some knowledge, nor do i care for a punk ass follower who is programmed by commands and lines found in a constitution!
But, it's a matter of humanity and manners!
xXxLovEMasTerxXx911 1 year ago
@balepsychobat
Yes we all have rights, I agree and understand...but any group big or small have that right to assemble and speak out as long as its peaceful...but I was corrected about university property being private property, this small group should of asked for permission to hold their protest on campus property to begin with or hold their protest off campus, like at a near by park...etc?
videofriendly2010 1 year ago
I love the girl.
LMAO Hero :)
I'm ashamed that my boyfriend goes to Carleton though. This is absolutely disgusting.
ilovejakehoggard 1 year ago
WELL.... this certainly says A LOT about carleton.... i wonder where i SHOULDN'T go next year
gigikun1 1 year ago 2
somebodys got a blackberry!
Godlim17 1 year ago
I am an acquaintance of this girl and know her family. They are respectable law abiding Citizens and people of faith. As a Canadian citizen, and therefore a promoter and defender of Democracy, I find the acts of Carleton University reprehensible and contrary to the Democratic spirit of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech. This is a shameful display on part of the publicly funded University and deeply saddens me as a free-born Citizen of this so-called free Nation.
camasta23m 1 year ago 4
i hope you enjoyed paying your fine
finekilla 1 year ago
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videofriendly2010 1 year ago 24
@videofriendly2010 Well if you took the time to understand property laws then maybe you wouldn't be having such a knee jerk reaction. Carleton University is private property...which means the administration has ultimate authority for who and what is permitted on the campus. You do NOT have Charter of Rights and Freedoms protection on private property. Did you ever stop to consider that the university might have "rights" as well...it's not always one sided.
balepsychobat 1 year ago 4