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  • EK9

  • "what if you're completely wrong?"

  • Jeremy is 100% correct, honda have just made cheaper and cheaper cars. I dont even look to buy Honda anymore sadly.

  • I don't know much about hydrogen because im in 4 h grade

  • the greatest civic type r was the first one after 2000 civics started getting heavier and uglier. Idk what these weigh but I know the 8th generation (06-10) civics in the states weigh 2800lbs! thats a tank compred to what they used to be. my 99 4 door weighed about 2500 and my 94 coupe stock weighs 2200lbs. now it's down to 1900lbs I was plesently suprised when I first took the weight off beause it's like free horsepower. please honda, stop making tanks

  • @REWej8 It's called modern cars. Really, it's pretty much impossible now to make a hot hatch the size of a civic around 1000-1100KG. The EP3 wasn't that heavy at 1200kg. Lighter than other hatches around other than the Clio.

  • elate na sas rapsw apo mia koustoumia me to type R mou egglezikes poustares!!!

  • Is the WRX even in this category?  If so = hottest hatch.

  • 2.00 Favo part :p

  • fucking ugly car

  • i wouldnt admit to buying one if I was there haha

  • Best Hot Hatches = Ford

  • I like the FN2 manga style but indeed the EP3 is more effective!

  • which season is this?

  • @marynoo0 This is from season 10 episode 6

  • my RSX Type S is better than both :D

  • @jekyllnhydebaby no shit

    rsx destroys every car in small coupe class

  • @4Hislove4Hiskingdom maybe.. but i shit out better looking cars every morning.

  • @jekyllnhydebaby Nah, the DC5 is, but your watered down yank crap isn't. :D

  • @Grov22 lol thanks?

  • @jekyllnhydebaby Hehe was only joking. It's not as good as a Type R though, :)

  • Music at 3:00?

  • 3:21 VTEC!

  • That guy who complain to Clarkson is probably a complete idiot. "This is (the new civic) is much nicer", how can he say that even after he, and everyone, saw that ridiculous understeer, slow start at straight line, harsh suspension, and etc of its drawbacks?

    Even though Clarkson did said to him "you and i have a different opinion", it's still a complete rubbish, 'cuz it's proven that Clarkson is right in the film.

  • integra to honda type R...... WTF WAS HONDA THINKING? this isnt back the fucking future

  • The drag race is a bit of a red herring, the new shape civic only has 740 miles or so on the clock and won't even be run in properly.

    Look at real quarter mile times or 0-200 whatever you like really and you'll see that the new shape always comes out on top.

    Top Gear tried a similar test years ago on a new golf gti and one with 60000 miles and the 60000 mile one by about 20 car lengths.

  • really, Honda lost its path with their civics, the new ones just suck, it became too complicated and they simply refuse to update the engine with more power

    I mean why not bump the horsepower to 220 or 250 and bump the torque just below the HP?

  • @GundamAngelicDevil yeah I agree mate I have a civic type s which is 160bhp (I need the 5 door version) but if I had a type r and wanted the new shape I would want at least 220 bhp not 1 more bhp?? it's off putting

  • @GundamAngelicDevil Because that is expensive. It is much cheaper to give the car some new clothes and sell it again to people who only choose their car based on the looks and the speech from the salesman.

    It is not a car build by or for people who has a passion for cars, it is build by businessmen who wants to make money.

  •  АЭРОФЛОТ

    советские авиолинии ;-)))

  • I just bought 1 of these today.lol I dont care though I love it, amazing cool interior still fast and amazing response. Love it looks sweet to especially with my 2-tone black and bronze. Awesome

  • @wilsonvipers1 Agree they look great and not wanting to put down your purchase but Honda have missed a trick here in the long run

  • this is the only time a Top Gear audience member has been allowed to speak and actually presented some pretty good points.

    If I was walking to the dealership with my own money and could choose between the two, I would pick the newer one without a moment's hesitation.

    I mean, how often are people ACTUALLY racing their cars.....?

  • @Riles07 Well, i would've choose a different car. I mean, yes, i maybe won't be very often race it. But as Clarkson said it himself - heavier, slower, less agile, and rougher ride, that's the reason why people (and you too maybe) should not buy the new one. If it was me, i'd rather save my money a little bit more to buy another better small hot hatchbacks rather than this, let's take, for example, Fiat 500 - it costs between the old and the new Civic's price, but it's a lot better.

  • @orihalchon ya except the 500 has significantly less power, significantly less interior space, and won't be nearly as well made as the Honda. iVTEC engines are among the most reliable in history. Fiat....has never ha any such reputation..

  • @orihalchon Why the hell would anyone want a Fiat 500 unless they were female, homosexual or elderly. That is one gay, not very powerfull sub-hot hatch. It is at most a warm hatch and in no way comparable to a Type-R. In what way can it possibly be better in terms of a Hot-Hatch ? Type R (all of them) have better performance, handling, gearbox, reliability and sound. DONT MAKE ME LAUGH. YOU HAVE BEEN READING WAAAY TO MUCH WHAT CAR MAGAZINE.

  • @acespizee Well definitely its your taste that you call Fiat 500 is gay. So if you are talking a hot-hatch that is better than the Type-R, consider this: Citroen DS3. The DS3 is better looking (in my opinion), more comfortable, spacious, and its definitely quicker than the Type-R.

    Oh, and don't make me laugh 'cuz you said that i've been reading too much car magazine - errr..... duhh. I'm more like been too much watching Top Gear and too much car knowledge, thank you very much~

  • @acespizee Gay? Have you seen the Abarth? That one actually looks fun to drive. This Type-R honestly does not. IMO anyway.

  • old video,poor review..have owned both , loved both and the fn2 is the better car...lower vtec change, smoother torque, better wet weather traction, better steering, better interior.... Its not as raw as an ep3 and needs slight tweaking to suspension for proper track use but otherwise its a great car....there really is some rubbish spouted about the fn2...mostly from people who have never owned one...

  • even if your used to sleeping on the floor and being stabbed lol !!!

  • just goes to see you'll never beat your dad!

  • put an EK on track pls

  • FD2R is the best among the civic type r

  • Absolutely amazing that CARS ARE PRETTY MUCH AS HONDA MOTOR IS GOOD DESIGN AND HOLD runs well on a Reel

  • I knew honda was/has lost its way. Jeremy just proved me right.

  • 7:08 = Summary

  • the 132 dislikes are the young men that can drive a car as quick, or drift as good as clarkson

  • HONDA SIN DUDA UNA GEAN MARCA MOTOR Y DISEÑO

  • Absolutely love this show. Clarkson is hilarious. They've been replaying some episodes of TopGear on the telle recently...man, nowadays, the quality of the editing and some of the angles, effects they use for the reviews are miles ahead of what they were in 2003 or 2004. Not shocking, just cool to see the progression of the show.

  • Torsion bar doesnt let you over steer as independent so you should know your limits when entering corner

  • Even if you sleep on the floor at parties and your used to being stabbed LOL

  • awsome review

  • It's gonna be great when they have to drive the new Volkswagen Beetle.

  • lol clarkson is giving it to that honda

  • that hondas a teenage.It hates its paraents

  • Sasori what u talking about. U not smart noob.

  • you probably think that the music at 2:04 was sepost to be so loud. but no u are wrong! watch other top gear videos.. you'll understand me. bbc sound editor = FIRED!

  • @ivedrivenAudi u must have no life at all to be able to work that out

  • @ivedrivenAudi ACTUALLY I would normally agree with you about the sound editing being terrible BUT here in this video, that part at 2:00 really IS supposed to be louder than what Clarkson is saying hence his ."....ten pints of stellar and a dollop of chlamydia." or at least that's some inside joke

  • this must be an old video because that generation of Honda civic type r was made from 2001 to 2005

  • TOP GEAR PLEASE DO A VIDEO LIKE THIS WITH THE NEW VXR ASTRA

  • Can't imagine of a nicer review that this!!! "Used to be sleeping on the floor and being stabbed":)))))

  • @saneaco LMAO WUT THE EFF ?

  • I wish we could have had the EP3 Type-r in the States...

  • the new Honda Civic Type-R took an arrow to the knee

  • @lomborgelev39 very true but you got to admit the type R and Mugen version look awesome

  • Powerful, yet ugly.

  • Clarkson, my dear man, its the simple joys of i-VTEC you find in a Honda! Forget the rest because all pro's have cons as well!

  • @ThePachCode i-VTEC has nothing over proper twin cam VTEC

  • @DRaKe6900 Definitely agree with you on that one. There's nothing like the B series engines :)

  • @ThePachCode Vtec rules

  • I will say this one more time: Top Gear, please fire your sound editor.

  • they are such ugly cars. I honestly dont see how anybody could find this car appealing

  • @FordGTmustang2000 Everyone has it's own taste. I personally hate Mercedes or Audi design and so many people find it super attractive.

  • how can you disagree with Clarkson he really knows his shit the rest of us are keyboard warriors who have owned a few cars this guys has driven more cars than we have had hot dinners and thats a fact

  • @moto46 Come on, Clarkson knows how to make a show and how to drive, but how to properly judge a car ? Definitely not. And he says so himself, he doesn't care because it's not his job.

  • @Duron1 his opinion on cars is always right and deep down you know it

  • @moto46 He's not and in fact he's rarely right but frankly: who cares ? It's not his job, he make a show, he write script for it, nothing is genuine. It is entertainment, not real test.

  • @Duron13 not a real test but his opinion must be listened to he is a car god

  • @moto46 Huh... yeah so I'm gonna let the fanboy that you are think whatever you want.

  • @moto46

    Hes right about the drawbacks of the FN2, but it doesnt mean its a bad car.

  • @moto46 Just because he's more experienced,that doesn't make his words the gospel truth. Take everything with a pinch of salt. Even Clarkson said himself,in an interview,that his opinions are not meant to be taken literally and his conclusions are not definite. Remember the Nissan GT-R? In Top Gear,he raved about it. On his DVD,Thriller,he hated it and said it was like a Sunny.

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  • @moto46 Doesn't the beeping when you have the driver door open and the ignition key still in? Like i have a mazda and a honda and they both have that feature. And if you think of it, it's so that drivers don't leave their keys in the ignition and end up getting their car stolen. That's like the only dumb comment I've seen Clarkson make.

  • @GerbiGerbilLok yeah good point although the seat going back to the original setting must be annoying

  • @GerbiGerbilLok

    How is that a dumb comment?

    The dumb people are those who forget the key in the ignition and don't realize when they need to lock the car. Those people don't deserve to own a car, they are probably too old to drive safely as well.

    I would never buy a car that beeped to tell me everything I know I just did.

    I want a car to be like a butler. Never question my decision and always do what I tell it too. No American so called safety warnings. I hate that.

  • @GerbiGerbilLok Well c'mon, lets be honest - he's already too cross about the car. Even though i know that it's meant to remind people that the key is still intact, i'm guessing that Clarkson made that comment 'cuz he never forgotten that he left his key still intact in the car.

  • @moto46 some of us don't drink campbell's soup straight from the can...

  • @moto46

    you're right.

    but i do disagree with him on ONE thing.

    He did a GTR review on the top gear track and he said that it "let him down."

    i disagree with him on that.

  • Im not a honda person but the old one actually looked nice, the new one is so ugly i cannot even begin to describe.

  • You're supposed to push the seat back into the original position before reclining the angle of the seat. Everyone knows that Jeremy

  • @Ruckus2thaLADIES

    When the first Top Gear came out, it was boring as all fuck. Give the US version some time, I don't think it will get better than the EU version. But it will get better.

  • 2:25 dashboard from the Romulans :)

  • Youtube has managed to do so i hate Bear Grylls now, i see him before every single video DAMNIT! -.- I dont care if he comes to Norway, we have Lars Monsen, so we dont need Bear Grylls.

  • I love these lil' Civics. For a budget car, I wouldn't mind owning one. And you'll be laughing at everybody else at the gas station.

  • @SportBikeDudeRocks ya know i love my 73 caprice its passes every one on the highway but omg i cry at the pump

  • what model year is this?

  • @Mrboomx in the us its 2002-2005

  • Honda Power

  • i got a honda si

  • @Okay931  Really??

  • i wish top gear review the japanese honda civic mugen rr 

  • I used to own a supercharged '02 ep3. I loved that car. Yes, there are faster cars but why the hate? Just drive one with a little work put into it and I am sure you'll be grinning in no time.

  • My Mclaren F1 Car is the Dogs...

  • Jaguar S-type R Nuff Said

  • I'll stick with my Nissan GT-R. This is garbage compared to it :P...

  • the Si is better

  • DC2R pisses on the new honda crap.

  • Honda still rules fuck the haters ill wave as I drive by ur broke down p.o.s

  • Ill stick to my evo

  • 2407 Drive honda, the other 126 Drive REAL Cars.

  • @XmodGT1 Like muscle cars not tuners or exotics

  • no sabe conducir coches (es un patoso)

  • @jllt1101 Coche es igual a un cerdo, se dice carro o vehiculo.

  • Shit car and always will be. WHat were hey thinking when they were making civics? My mustang beats the shit out of this front wheel drive ricer and all japanese are shit in everything

  • @sarconista try going to japan, and your big bad mustang will get a spanking from a honda. the streets are narrow, lots of traffic light, lots of hard bends, etc... your mustang won't even have the chance to reach max torque before you need to brake again for hard turn or traffic light. learn some culture and you'll know why japanese cars are different.

  • @sarconista lol why even bother talkin shit about civics on a page about a civic? good for you your car has twice as many cylinders to start with GOOD LUCK ON THE GAS put $5000 into this 'piece of shit' and it'll crack tech over your pony any day assuming your life savings hasnt went into a useless cause aka a v8 hahahahaha

  • i'll stick with the good old b16 EG

  • god i love that ep3..

  • This car needs a 2.3 to 2.5 liter turbocharged engine like in a Subaru. 6 speed and all wheel drive. If Subaru can be built for around $30K, so could Honda. Without the right power, all you get is a car that has to be taken to 4000 rpm under normal driving. (and 8500 rpm to be quick?)

  • Nice t-shirt Jeremy :D

  • what a shame. i love this car. looks nice and all. but he says it all. the most impressive is that the gt comes with a chilled glove box =]

  • thes civic its on of the most oogly i ever seen i like the old on much better and its drives better and looks 1000 times better

  • @TheMisnasty Ya know it's odd, I thought the same thing when it first came out, that it looks like a little rolled up ball of poopie, not to mention that here in Australia the standard Civic is a completely different car, but one day I started to like it just a little. It's a real shame how Honda had to go and drop the ball on this one. They of all people should know people expect the upmost quality from them, and this bullshit about being heavier and having a torsion bar rear just doesn't fly.

  • wasn't the older one 197bhp?

  • @MaddDogg81 No. It had 200 hp. The vw gti had 197 hp

  • 7:39 totally agreed with him .

  • VTEC!

  • none of you know what your talking about, ask anyone who knows anything about cars, Honda is THE MOST reliable car, dont put your trust in a retarded youtube video, (sorry topgear) not only does it make the most reliable engines for cars but for lawn mowers and quads too! Hondas not made for someone who wants to destroy their car in 50k miles, its made for those who want to drive it too 200k miles... try that with any other car than honda and it wont work

  • @bloodysoviet12

    Actually ,you are so wrong.

    I have done milages over 200k with Golf mk IV ,and i have had NO reliable type issues. In fact i don't have a garage so my car has spent 10 years parked on road ,where all weather conditions (summer up to +43°C winter up to - 20°C) have had their way with my car.

    Every time i wanted to go somewhere ,my car ignited and drove me from location A to location B.

    So Honda is not special in that category at all. But they are good cars non the less...

  • @bloodysoviet12 Lol, so you say like a Volvo doesn't reach 200k miles. #Ricerfail

  • he just turned a perfectly good car into a piece o shit!!! i loved the type R! :(

  • "even if you're used to sleeping on the floor at parties and being stabbed" WHAT? LMAO

  • bro that is a killer bald spot bro .... :D

  • HONDA DIE IN 1997

  • how could honda screw up there only sporty car. The s2000 is gone the nsx is gona what is honda thinking!

  • Just buy a chevy

  • @MuscleAndImport no there gay

  • I like that new Civic while Honda is ugly

  • U guys dont even know what vtec is toyota has there own called vvt intellenge look it up before u talk out the rear

  • @scrambynog almost all asian car companies have adapted their own version of vtec, honda was just the real pioneer

  • 12 pints of stella and a dollop of clemydia LOOL

  • Honda's performance hasn't necessarily gone downhill but it had changed. It has only gone downhill in accordance to VTEC die-hards like us. Honda now prefers having more punch in the low-end, while people that have stuck with Honda want the high-rpm screamers. The new Civic with the K24 is good with getting the car moving, and new fans of Honda will love that. It will only be a matter of time before Honda builds a product for both their fans of old and new.

  • @brandentang its also about emission standards..i think that the 8000rpm+ VTEC engines dont meet the new emission standards both in Europe and US

  • @brandentang It's because of how ungodly heavy the Hondas have gotten. The old H-series and such made torque lower than B-series and D-series. Because the Accord/Prelude was heavier than the Civic.

    The current Civic is a pig by Honda purist standards. That's my main problem with them. Although I love the K24

  • Top gear are full of shit

  • I LOVE VTEC, but I really think Honda isn't using what they can with the system to really generate power. To me, the K20A2 is a start. It's fierce and quick, but what about a 200 mph VTEC engine in an Si and a 4.0L V8 or something. Let's make the Si a REAL sports sedan. Not knocking the current car, but I wanna see Honda really go crazy once with this technology and really blow some of the top performance cars out of the water, while still having a sporty sedan.

  • Vtech just kicked in yo lol

  • Civics are shit. they all are fwd and comes with no flappy paddle gearbox. japanese cars are not reliable these days cos they're a piece of junk

  • @sarconista u know jack shit about cars. just stfu and go drive a smart.

  • The older one is much better looking as well.

  • chav

  • well i want to buy a civic type r but it was always a dilemma for me to choose between the old and the new one! as i see the old one is faster and the new one more stable but less faster! please i want someone other to tell his/her opinion about this choice!

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  • A door handle from a 1950's fridge.. HAHAHA!

    Maybe Honda should stick with making lawn mowers and electricity generators.

  • @Dogurasu You're just plain fucking stupid.

  • @TheDM75

    I'm not the one worshiping a crap box Honda.

    In fact, even though I think Honda should stick with making lawn mowers and power generators, they don't even make the best lawn mowers and power generators.. I'm not sure Honda can do anything right. Even their motor cycles are junk.. LOL

    Is your last name Honda? Why do you take it so personal?

    Maybe because you're a total moron? Yes, that must be it.

  • @Dogurasu Look at that comment, you must have real problems... Troll. Honda is one of the most reliable car manufacturers in the world. You have no ideia, because you're the total fucking moron. Anyone who knows about cars will tell you the same. Stick to trolling on youtube... Cars are not for you.

  • @Dogurasu lol you are a complete retard :D thank you for making my evening i was bored until i read that

  • @fairygodbrother

    Retard?

    I'm not the one that's suckered into Honda advertising.

    They make complete and total junk.

    Sorry fairy guy, but you're the only retard around here. :-)

  • @Dogurasu I don't know what bad experience you've had with honda's old man but I know plenty of people who will vouch for them being as reliable as the sun just like I would. Hardly would call myself retarded supporting a quality product which is supported by facts not the opinion of some mong.

  • @fairygodbrother

    Because I work in for a company with a very large number of employees and many of them drive crap box Honda's and I have seen first hand how junky they are. Major electrical problems, paint problems, chassis problems, engine problems.

    Without knowing anything anything about you or the year and model of your Honda, I would be it's safe to say that you've replaced the power window switch assembly on the drivers door of your car at least once.

    It's not a cheap part is it? lol

  • @Dogurasu My del sol came from Japan and I imported it myself. I have NEVER had a problem with it electrically or mechanically and it is 19 years old. Engine problems? the b16a is one of the most reliable engines of all time, they never had one back. you are either your average stupid arrogant american who thinks they know everything or know nothing about honda's, pick one. Chassis can be problematic due to poor quality metal, as goes for all jap cars.

  • @fairygodbrother yea i hav a 99'' civic everything is stock and never had electronic or any issues with anything. my bro even hit a tree 2 years ago and the chassi is still perfect. the shop said it was totaled and i ended up fixing the whole front of it for 500 dollars.

  • the 2006-2011 Honda Civic was/is assembled in Swindon, England Suzuka, Japan East Liberty, Ohio, USA Greensburg, Indiana, USA Alliston, Ontario, Canada Lahore, Pakistan Pingtung, Taiwan Gebze, Turkey Sumaré, Brasil Greater Noida, Uttar Pradesh, India Ayutthaya, Thailand Alor Gajah, Malaysia Karawang, Indonesia Vinh Phuc, Vietnam Santa Rosa, Laguna, Philippines