The idea that defeating aging will cause the population to go crazy is overblown.
The reason being is they often do not include any of the variables. Poverty is the agent which causes the population to go crazy, not longer life expectancy.
If living longer were the primary culprit for population growth, most of the growth would happen in developed nations where life expectancy average 75-83. But that is not what we see, population growth happens primarily in the 3d world nations.
You are correct. Demographers has shown that the higher industralized nations have low population problems (complete opposit of the third World). People having kids later in life and fewer of them (espcially middle income earners). This been studied for decades now. The likely scenario would be most people wouldnt want kids (screaming kids at the back seat of the family car is not the scenario most people would want to be in. Not to mention be stuck with them for centuries.).
This is not humanity's hugest problem. As interesting and intelligent I find Aubrey, I have to disagree with his statement there. Yes, old people are people too, but the world is already overpopulated as is, and if we cure aging, then we will all surely die in a much worse way than aging.
When using the argument of Overpopulation, it is important that you include all the variables, and standards of living increase, people live longer, birth rates will continue to decline. When aging is defeated, a lot probably most will choose to have children later in life. It is also important to realize that the technology today we use will not be the same 50 years from now. We can and will improve our method of farming, energy usage. Vertical Farming, Renewables and fusion energy for example
@Llortsaccount Just because he disagrees with having a huge military and wasting money sucking up the world's oil, you're calling him a "piece of shit?" The Military and both the wars we're fighting are the reason this deficit. Like he said, we should spend money on stuff that matters. Such as this. Or instead of fighting an oil war, research alternate fuel sources. :)
Absolutely right, this is definately humanity's biggest problem, and people seem not to care, or pretend not to care....government should finance his work no doubt, this is also an investment, think of all the money will save for not having old people expensive treatments...instead they throw millions down the drain with stupid causes like the military....
@TheDarkFenix Indeed. 2/3ds 100/150k people die every day from it.
The government is irresponsible to not even talk about it. UN estimates the average lifespan in 50 years will be about 90. Thats highly inaccurate, with life extension and the use of SENS therapies, the life expectancy can very well be over 500 years. Clearly the government and the media is trying to hide itself from the biggest issues. Hopefully if we continue to spread the word, aging can be cured, government will change.
I respect Degrey's sincerity, discipline, & curiosity, but we should all be made aware that "biomedical gerontologist" is a title that he gave himself.
@lazur1 Yes, but he does have a Ph.d from Cambridge. But I was a little surprised to learn that he went there three years taking computer science classes and got the Ph.d by writing a book about biology years later only after marrying a much older woman who happened to be a biology professor. Nonetheless, many scientists have tried to discredit him and failed. He is the only person ever to publish peer reviewed papers about ending aging or as he calls it Longevity Escape Velocity.
I think that "ending human ageing". A human who doesn't age is a post-human. To end aging we would have to "maintain" our body's on a cellular level, not at 99% but 100% efficiency (the difference between living 500 years and never dying is an infinite difference). For our cells to rejuvenate at 100% efficiency we would have to drastically alter the way our body's functioned, which could only effect our minds and humanity.
If DeGrey does succeed; he'll revolutionize the entire existence of the human-race, it's culture, and it's way of thinking. His brilliant inactivate theories in bio-molecular genealogy makes him a true hero even if he fails! Scientists WILL pick up where he left off!
And I'm very impressed with everyone that commented! I thought for sure this would have a bunch of pissed Religious psychos on it sayin' this defys god n' shit!..Some bitches be trippin'
@ubersteigen The Bible gives you Truth. Read it! You'd learn something: There's someone already laughing at you! Psalm 2 Why the big noise, nations? Why the mean plots, peoples? Earth-leaders push for position, Demagogues and delegates meet for summit talks, The God-deniers, the Messiah-defiers: "Let's get free of God! Cast loose from Messiah!" Heaven-throned God breaks out laughing." Here you are trying to be gods, while trying to deny God; Now that's truly laughable!!!
@BRESHEET What the pissl are you talking about!? In so-called "biblical" times you'd be lucky if you lived past 30... Where are you even getting this ridiculous crap? Hahah, every silly story in the bible has been proven to be nothing but fictional nonsense.
Even the alleged birth of the character "Jesus Christ" .
"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
@BRESHEET So I've "proven" the so called "word of god" is TRUE by being rational enough to know the bible makes no sense, scientifically & historically inaccurate, and completely contradictive to itself?
And how exactly is "John 3:19-21" actual proof of anything tangible?
You know the bible says a LOT of dumb shit.. According to the story, the earth is only 6000 years old, and man was here from the start with talking snakes! Don't take old ignorant books of fiction so seriously.
We can do more by spreading the word. I've just read up to about chapter 14. If what was said about blastocycts is true (and it sounds like it is), we should get behind embryonic stem cells and tell the anti stem cell camp that blastocysts aren't human. They're clumps of cells. Nothing ethically special about them at all.
This is super cool stuff! Im excited about the fact that I'm probably young enough to get access to the life extending therapies and evetually eternal youth. But only time will tell if Aubrey and SENS will succeed. Playing god=nice.
Next time you get ill. go to Church not hospital. We have a population problem as it is. Your actually a martyr and helping to save the world. God loves Martyrs. I'm sure you will have heavenly bliss for all eternity.
I'll stick with Aubrey here ;) Oh and remember to donate your corneas to science . And be polite people who cuss go to hell !!
Nonsense. It's a privilege to have aged. It will never be avoided, only slowed down before its onset. That's nature, biological or otherwise. Everything goes through a process of change. Aubrey, you've got more chance of travelling to another galaxy than arresting the aging process. Just accept aging and enjoy your life instead of worrying about something that cannot be changed.
it is a horror to be growing old or will be growing old.
getting weak, easier to become sick, ache bones, and your skin starts to become wrinkly and less actactive it sounds and feels like decay and just less healthy in general isn't a "privilege"
De Grey was a computer technician at Cambridge. He makes unrealistic claims, and attracts those who desire immortality. Who wouldn't want to live forever? But as I explained, you cannot arrest aging anymore than you can arrest the continuum of natural processes. De Grey, like all of us, must accept the inevitable. Anyhow, I like to think that 3 score and ten isn't bad at all, when you consider how brief the life is of some insects and small animals. So, just go out and enjoy yourself!
um, aubrey de grey isn't the only one whoes trying to slow down aging.
many scientists around the world are working on ways to drasticly prolong our life spans with an ultimate goal :end or reverse it.
there are many small animals with short life span. but there are whom with longer then ours such as whales live more then 200 years. aging is prolongable and we should try to prolong our life spans. and eventually reverse it.
I'd personally like to see it slowed down. I'd say stopping it altogether is a little drastic, and could definately brew up some potentially nasty side-effects, but simply slowing down aging, and extending the average human lifespan by a couple years, that could definately benefit the human race, as far as I'm concerned.
i'd respect your opinion. but i believe for example prolonging life spans by hundreds+ of years would be widely benificial to the human race as a whole due to the fact that we would save trillions annually on healthcare and other things.
People have this misconception about death that it really is inevitable due to some magically preprogrammed number. That isn't the case at all, people die because the wear and tear that their bodies accumulate over the years renders them more susceptible to various system failures. One could argue that death is actually NOT natural. The mere existence of cancer proves that cellular death is not absolute.
It's not a matter of if death is inevedable or not. It's a matter of that we're tampering with something without fully understanding the consequences.
It doesn't really matter anyways, I think it's inevitable that something like this comes around. The technological singularity is just around the corner and, because of advancements in medicine, so is the biological singularity, so this just ensures that we live long enough to upload our minds and leave our physical bodies behind.
@PsychoJosh Hello I have researched into anti aging and stem cell work at university. We urgently need to recruit more followers and believers to our cause and the early twenties are a good group to focus spreading the message to as they are part of the future! We need to form pressure groups and spread the word that death by aging may well just be an irrational doctrine ^^. What do you think?
aubrey de grey and many other biologists and scientists are going to be heros one day. maybe he will not be able to live long enough to see his ideas come to life, but he will be remembered.
@cpisretartedmuch take no offense to this at all ; but your statement is a perfect example of what The Bible explains as to what a "blind idiot" would say.
I was replying to your "fucking idiots" comment, glad you're a non-god fearing Atheist, as I am too... people believe what they want to believe, and there are a lot that want to believe 2012 will somehow end all life on Earth, they have a death wish of sorts, but it includes everyone, not just them.
I'm very excited about some of the recent breakthroughs that Aubrey has funded. Anyone who thinks this is a scam needs to look up some of the recent advances. There is a lot of information here on youtube, but if you need more solid data there is plenty of scientific publications out there (search google) which explain in depth all of the tools they used to conduct their experiments, and what their observations were.
The fact is, there is a scientific reason why we age. It's not magic.
if he were a con man then he would be speaking of something that is not true to sell a point. and death (the lack of existance) I do not see as a beautiful thing. When someone you love dies, do you not weep for that loss, and then do you not want to see them living again. you can appreciate life because you ARE alive, if you live indefinately you have a limitless future to look forward to to see mankind reach to the farthest stars, to see your great grand children have great grand children
you can live indefinately if you think about it, there is a gene that replenishes cells that shuts off like it's programmed to, if they can activate this gene then you will never age thus live eternally.
They are not worthy to live even their short life-spans. But we will not kill them all*, because killing is not an option. We'll just erase their memories and re-sequence their DNA's.
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*- with the exception of muslims, cause there is nothing can me done X)
i dont think anyone will be judged "not worthy". That would be ridiculous and discriminative. Like anything else in life, it will all boil down to money. If you can afford the treatment, they cannot refuse you.
wtf? let's see what you will say when you turn 90 and are so rotten you can't even get up to take a piss. That is if you make it to 90. anyway, you can still die from an accident or what ever, there will always be a limit even if aging is cured. And no one will make you get rejuvenated, this is a choice people will have to take. You wanna get old and die in just a be years or continue to enjoy life. I'll go with the later one.
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Believe me there are more important things than that - like sin. If perhaps he had a Godly biblical world view, his belief and work could do so much more good.
If you want to support Aubrey and one of his projects called "Undergrads fighting age related disease" then go to " membersproject. com/project/view/BVVE2C " (take out the gaps)
Brilliant, charismatic, AND has a sense of humor, eheh. Hopefully he will be able to live long enough to benefit from the program he is so dedicated to... It is possible and simple to view aging as really a genetic disorder that we all possess, and that we must find a way to cure, as it really is the highest cause of death. Higreentj raises a good point, health care costs would be a fraction of what they currently are, and think of all the good one can do when one has an eternity to achieve it.
Wikipedia. Always a good source for answering simple questions.
(After his TED talk somebody asked Aubrey "Why is it that you make yourself appear like an old man?". Aubrey jokingly responded "Because I am an old man, I am actually 158.") Don't start having conspiracy theories now people.
i saw TED and then found myself on wikepedia after i googled him...i always forget you can google everything now. anyhow check out my anti-aging video inspired by all this. one thing i feel that is left out of THIS element of immortality is spirit. you also see it in the whole NWO movement. it is this diabolical dark element of male dominance control instead of allowing and knowing we are immortal, activating the physical vehicle to be a super "machine" able for transport interdimensionally.
I remember when I was 10-11 years old and desperately dreamt of a world in which immortality was achievable. I said to myself "when I grow up I will become a scientist and defeat aging!". Time proved that the science of aging did not become my profession or even an obsession, which makes me extra happy to see my childhood dreams manifested in this man.
Good luck Aubrey de Grey, I hope that you and others like you will reach their goal.
when i was 5 year old and just some days before it would be year 2000. I asked my mother. "will i live untill year 3000?" my mom said "yes" and she migth be right. but of course some mins later she said no xD
Aging causes a lot of suffering and it is very expensive. If we can end it we will all be much healthier and wealthier. Don`t you all want to be rich and healthy?
tucanchew32, have you ever heard about reproductive control? We don't need to kill anyone if there are no new people. I don't know about you, but I don't want to die, hell, I have faith in Allah, but I still want to remain upon this plain of existence as long as possible. The scientists, these men, they are pursuing the potential of a deathless, eternal society, in which all is life. The pursuit of the cure for death is our top priority,without it,we are finite, and so is then any other pursuit.
You should be finite through your offspring, listen to your grandparents and evolve in that manner! Genetic strains do mutate SO if you intervene instead of letting natural order carry out then you are playin god and that is luciferian! But when I die and YOU all will I won't have to tell him I messed in a LAB with what he made perfect! God have mercy on you all and apolgies for rude response. Secondly unless this man works for fre your gettin into class systems? Do you think he works for free??
I take it you mean infinite through your offspring(rather than infinite as an individual). The wheel is unnatural. medicines are unnatural. This is just as unnatural and no less. I am not about to become a dieing hippie or extinct Homish. God never said anything about us not being able to cure the disease of old age,just like he never said we could not try to cure cancer.Should we stop giving people vaccines so they can die naturally from basic diseases?that is contributing to overpopulation too
OK so we make everybody live forever, now we gotta go around shooting people cuz were running outta food and getting crowded? Leave what nature made alone pls, fucking scientists man I swear!!
Food prices will drop dramatically within 10 years, thanks to GM crops and test tube meat.
All land which is now used to keep livestock can then be used to harvest crops.
There is enough room for 100+ billion humans on Earth if we start living in skyscrapers, like on 'Coruscant' from the movie 'Star Wars'. And what about floating cities at sea? Or colonies on other planets?
Think before you start calling names. Keep in mind that without the help of science you would have been dead by now.
I would tell you to watch the movie the world according to monsanto, but someone took it off the web? But if you believe in GMO food by all means keep eating it,pls! I believe it's leading us to biological disaster! Just my opinion. Personally I'll stick with organic, good luck with all that. oh thanks for knowing how many times science saved my life?
The people who dislike GM crops often don't understand it and get spooked out by environmental or religious organisations, which often don't understand it either. In this case Greenpeace. It's as safe as normal food is, it can even be healthier. I have eaten the weirdest stuff at the university from GM rice to purple pancakes, I feel fine.
Your 33 years old according to your profile. Without vaccines, hygiene and housing you would have either been killed by some animal or died by infection ;)
Some of these organs are articular cartilage, intervertebral discs and teeth. Our control of wound healing after surgery when dealing with these heavy load-bearing organs is still very limited.
The most effective key to reverse aging is to narrow down the genetic programs that cause the systemic aging process and reprogram them. This may be achieved via current advancement in high-throughput system analysis, microarrays, mathematical modeling of the intricate signal transduction pathways, etc. However, there are organs that are built to be used only for at most 80-90 yrs. It will be very cumbersome to constantly fixing them via tissue engineering.
I don't think we are close to solving it. It may take another 200 yrs. However, I do agree though that this is two of the most important research focuses of all. The other is the colonization of other planets.
We need more funding and a focused effort to achieve this goal sooner.
I would guess that 100 years is the amount of time it would take to "sleep-walk", through normal research, into a full-body tissue repair routine that would effectively neutralise aging. The idea of SENS is to consolidate seperate strands of reseach in order to hasten this to 30 years.
I gived u a + becose u think that imortality and the power too reach other planests is the most important resarche.But 200 yrs...that is not true in my opinion more like 25-50 or max 75-100 [my opinion]
>1) Direct appeal to public for cash Yes, it's called "charity". SENS is philanthropically funded because governments don't classify aging as "disease". One most noteable donor was entepreneur Peter Theil. >2) Use of conspiracy theories None. >3) Using buzz words:(Longevity Meme) It's a set of newsletters, for God's sake. >4) Bona Fide isn't even a noun. >5) Promises I've heard his reasoning. I haven't heard yours. >6)Appeal to fear Yes, all healthcare fundraising does this.
>1) The scientific establishment is standing >in the way of "anti aging technology"
Not a conspiracy, nor even a secret. They are very specific about it. The relevant authorities *specifically* refuse to recognise aging as a disease. It is their specific and open policy to let the condition go untreated.
>2) Ethical or religious concerns are >standing in the way of "anti aging >technology"
>1) Direct appeal to public for cash Yes, it's called "charity". SENS is philanthropically funded because governments don't classify aging as "disease". One most noteable donor was entepreneur Peter Theil. >2) Use of conspiracy theories None. >3) Using buzz words: Longevity Meme It's a set of newsletters, for God's sake. >4) Bona Fide isn't even a noun. >5) Promises I've heard his reasoning. I haven't heard yours. >6)Appeal to fear Yes, all healthcare fundraising does this.
The idea that defeating aging will cause the population to go crazy is overblown.
The reason being is they often do not include any of the variables. Poverty is the agent which causes the population to go crazy, not longer life expectancy.
If living longer were the primary culprit for population growth, most of the growth would happen in developed nations where life expectancy average 75-83. But that is not what we see, population growth happens primarily in the 3d world nations.
curingaging00 3 months ago
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You are correct. Demographers has shown that the higher industralized nations have low population problems (complete opposit of the third World). People having kids later in life and fewer of them (espcially middle income earners). This been studied for decades now. The likely scenario would be most people wouldnt want kids (screaming kids at the back seat of the family car is not the scenario most people would want to be in. Not to mention be stuck with them for centuries.).
1NX9 2 months ago
I love that he's working so hard so that everyone else can have more time to procastinate.
RyanLoveheart 3 months ago
This is not humanity's hugest problem. As interesting and intelligent I find Aubrey, I have to disagree with his statement there. Yes, old people are people too, but the world is already overpopulated as is, and if we cure aging, then we will all surely die in a much worse way than aging.
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@fruitylalaland16 However, I must add, that one wonderfully positive thing can could potentially come out of this; the end of religion.
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When using the argument of Overpopulation, it is important that you include all the variables, and standards of living increase, people live longer, birth rates will continue to decline. When aging is defeated, a lot probably most will choose to have children later in life. It is also important to realize that the technology today we use will not be the same 50 years from now. We can and will improve our method of farming, energy usage. Vertical Farming, Renewables and fusion energy for example
curingaging00 3 months ago
@Llortsaccount Just because he disagrees with having a huge military and wasting money sucking up the world's oil, you're calling him a "piece of shit?" The Military and both the wars we're fighting are the reason this deficit. Like he said, we should spend money on stuff that matters. Such as this. Or instead of fighting an oil war, research alternate fuel sources. :)
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curingaging00 6 months ago
The self direction----"Eugenics"---Of Human Evolution
SevenLeggedWalrus 7 months ago
Absolutely right, this is definately humanity's biggest problem, and people seem not to care, or pretend not to care....government should finance his work no doubt, this is also an investment, think of all the money will save for not having old people expensive treatments...instead they throw millions down the drain with stupid causes like the military....
YOU'RE THE MAN AUBREY!
LONG LIVE THE MICE!!!
TheDarkFenix 8 months ago 2
@TheDarkFenix Indeed. 2/3ds 100/150k people die every day from it.
The government is irresponsible to not even talk about it. UN estimates the average lifespan in 50 years will be about 90. Thats highly inaccurate, with life extension and the use of SENS therapies, the life expectancy can very well be over 500 years. Clearly the government and the media is trying to hide itself from the biggest issues. Hopefully if we continue to spread the word, aging can be cured, government will change.
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TheDarkFenix 8 months ago
I respect Degrey's sincerity, discipline, & curiosity, but we should all be made aware that "biomedical gerontologist" is a title that he gave himself.
lazur1 10 months ago
@lazur1 Yes, but he does have a Ph.d from Cambridge. But I was a little surprised to learn that he went there three years taking computer science classes and got the Ph.d by writing a book about biology years later only after marrying a much older woman who happened to be a biology professor. Nonetheless, many scientists have tried to discredit him and failed. He is the only person ever to publish peer reviewed papers about ending aging or as he calls it Longevity Escape Velocity.
oshory 9 months ago
lol "old people are people too" XD
DJMimzy 1 year ago
im not afraid to say i wanna be younge forever! what kind of a retard wouldn't?
BananaSandwich1 1 year ago
I think that "ending human ageing". A human who doesn't age is a post-human. To end aging we would have to "maintain" our body's on a cellular level, not at 99% but 100% efficiency (the difference between living 500 years and never dying is an infinite difference). For our cells to rejuvenate at 100% efficiency we would have to drastically alter the way our body's functioned, which could only effect our minds and humanity.
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"The Methuselah Foundation"??
~ Of all the names to chose from!
BTW. After Methuselah died, Judgement came!!
Man never learns, from one golden age to the next!
They'll find the cure for aging, the cure will spread like a virus!
Revelation 9:6
In those days men will seek death and will not find it;
they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.
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The only problem with aging is that people think there's a problem with it.
ProbableFiction 1 year ago
thats one manly beard.
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sceptresoul 1 year ago
R.E.M.'s "Man on the Moon" .... aka Andy Kaufmann
sceptresoul 1 year ago
@ubersteigen I like you! And your 100% correct, also on the religious point ;)
Ps: sorry for flagging! Stupid iPhone!5/5*****
DurexDurpaneu2 1 year ago 2
if every scientist in the world worked together to perfect this then we'd be able to save our grandparents
saulwilliams56 1 year ago
why do great minds appear funny looking lol
WanderingCree 1 year ago
Aubrey DeGrey is one of my biggest heroes!
If DeGrey does succeed; he'll revolutionize the entire existence of the human-race, it's culture, and it's way of thinking. His brilliant inactivate theories in bio-molecular genealogy makes him a true hero even if he fails! Scientists WILL pick up where he left off!
And I'm very impressed with everyone that commented! I thought for sure this would have a bunch of pissed Religious psychos on it sayin' this defys god n' shit!..Some bitches be trippin'
ubersteigen 1 year ago 4
Aubrey de grey will go down in history like Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein, Michelangelo and Motzart when he succeeds.
curingaging00 1 year ago 2
@curingaging00 if he succeeds, he will be much bigger than all these
aronkacska 1 year ago
@ubersteigen
Why would religious people "be trippin"?
Living to 900 years old is in the Bible!!
The First Golden Age of Man had great DNA!
~ You know, created in the image of God and all.
BRESHEET 1 year ago
@BRESHEET Hahahaha! Points and laughs at people that actually believe in ridiculous bible stories as fact... Read a real book. LoL
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BRESHEET 1 year ago
@ubersteigen Did it not dawn on you, oh rational one:
This crazy man (Genius) from The "Methuselah" Foundation,
is trying to return human DNA back to it's original state (through science) to gain the benefits "Methuselah" had back in Genesis!
Just read his ideas!!! :|
BRESHEET 1 year ago
@BRESHEET What the pissl are you talking about!? In so-called "biblical" times you'd be lucky if you lived past 30... Where are you even getting this ridiculous crap? Hahah, every silly story in the bible has been proven to be nothing but fictional nonsense.
Even the alleged birth of the character "Jesus Christ" .
ubersteigen 1 year ago
@ubersteigen You don't even know what "biblical" times mean!
Based on the comments you've made your just a parrot.
Read the Bible for starters, read (period!) and do some traveling!
Then you might have some rational statements to make.
BRESHEET 1 year ago
@BRESHEET Hahaha I have read it, and that's exactly why I'm an atheist.
That book is ridiculous in every way.
ubersteigen 1 year ago
@ubersteigen
Haha?
Ignorant, arrogant one!
You've just proven the Word of God!
John 3:19-21
"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
Dude, REPENT!
BRESHEET 1 year ago
@BRESHEET So I've "proven" the so called "word of god" is TRUE by being rational enough to know the bible makes no sense, scientifically & historically inaccurate, and completely contradictive to itself?
And how exactly is "John 3:19-21" actual proof of anything tangible?
You know the bible says a LOT of dumb shit.. According to the story, the earth is only 6000 years old, and man was here from the start with talking snakes! Don't take old ignorant books of fiction so seriously.
ubersteigen 1 year ago
@ubersteigen
If you read and understood implications of John 3:19-21,
you would know that it address the darkness of your soul and spirit.
Though you may call these "intangible", they are what's most important.
BRESHEET 1 year ago
@BRESHEET How is it important if doesn't exist?
The bible it truly the dumbest & poorly written works of fiction I've ever read.
It even contradicts itself on like every other page.. That's pretty sloppy & juvenile writing for the alleged "word of god". LoL.
ubersteigen 1 year ago
@ubersteigen I'm sorry to hear you say your spirit and soul do not exist.
I'll pray for you, it seems you're just a dead man walking.
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@BRESHEET Hahah, well you can pray into one hand and crap into the other.. See what weighs more, LoL
ubersteigen 1 year ago
I love Aubrey! : )
WATERVLOG 1 year ago 4
I'm happy to be a guinea pig aubrey, please message me if you're interested.
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SvetoslavDjourkov 1 year ago
i want to give this fellow all my money. where do i sign up?
mittROMNEY666 1 year ago 3
We can do more by spreading the word. I've just read up to about chapter 14. If what was said about blastocycts is true (and it sounds like it is), we should get behind embryonic stem cells and tell the anti stem cell camp that blastocysts aren't human. They're clumps of cells. Nothing ethically special about them at all.
Shtanto 1 year ago
i see many potential benefits in ending aging
1)will be very beneficial, for the economy. on average we spend 2 trillion in health care alone. 2/2.4 trillion on health care on elderly.
2)significant reduction in human suffering. both physical and mentally.
3)intensified working force. many elderly people want to continue to work, however often times they lack the physical capacity.
4)less elderly abuse
5)more choices. we will be able to live much longer if we choose to. now we cant.
cpretartedmuch 1 year ago
Aubrey = Jesus 2.0 Only with real miracles.
MrBrokenHands 2 years ago 33
This is super cool stuff! Im excited about the fact that I'm probably young enough to get access to the life extending therapies and evetually eternal youth. But only time will tell if Aubrey and SENS will succeed. Playing god=nice.
Mangusti90 2 years ago 3
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cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
Next time you get ill. go to Church not hospital. We have a population problem as it is. Your actually a martyr and helping to save the world. God loves Martyrs. I'm sure you will have heavenly bliss for all eternity.
I'll stick with Aubrey here ;) Oh and remember to donate your corneas to science . And be polite people who cuss go to hell !!
VinnaeusCambrensis 2 years ago 8
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cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
Yeah, that's the best answer...
But I have a question:
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU GAIN FROM BELIEVING IN RELIGION OR OTHER THOSE BULLSHITS?
leimo25 2 years ago 4
It's not a bad solution to the mind-body problem. Faith can never be defined in a physical context because to do so would be contrary to its nature.
Shtanto 1 year ago
FUCKING IDIOT GO AND DO YOUR LORD
when the fuck people will believe that there isn't a thing called god and believe in people.
leimo25 2 years ago
please google worldcommunitygrid to help fight diseases directly!!!
3tangle3 2 years ago 3
by researching anti aging we find ways to cures ppl illnesses which helps economic growth through their increased economic output
3tangle3 2 years ago 2
It is true.
Somewere in Balkans, in Romania, the old legend is true. It is not a joke...
You can live for ever if you have eneough money. And Wish!
vectrazri 2 years ago
Ending aging would be overall wildly beneficial for the economy aswell as humanity for the individual and the whole race as a whole.
curingaging00 2 years ago
Do you suppose Aubrey is trying to follow the artist Aubrey Beardsley?
Get it Beardsley?
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 2 years ago
saving money in direct effect of more money to technology, ending poverty once and for all and etc etc.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
Nonsense. It's a privilege to have aged. It will never be avoided, only slowed down before its onset. That's nature, biological or otherwise. Everything goes through a process of change. Aubrey, you've got more chance of travelling to another galaxy than arresting the aging process. Just accept aging and enjoy your life instead of worrying about something that cannot be changed.
Meshwork123 2 years ago
it is a horror to be growing old or will be growing old.
getting weak, easier to become sick, ache bones, and your skin starts to become wrinkly and less actactive it sounds and feels like decay and just less healthy in general isn't a "privilege"
its a curse. and we must solve this crisis.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
De Grey was a computer technician at Cambridge. He makes unrealistic claims, and attracts those who desire immortality. Who wouldn't want to live forever? But as I explained, you cannot arrest aging anymore than you can arrest the continuum of natural processes. De Grey, like all of us, must accept the inevitable. Anyhow, I like to think that 3 score and ten isn't bad at all, when you consider how brief the life is of some insects and small animals. So, just go out and enjoy yourself!
Meshwork123 2 years ago
um, aubrey de grey isn't the only one whoes trying to slow down aging.
many scientists around the world are working on ways to drasticly prolong our life spans with an ultimate goal :end or reverse it.
there are many small animals with short life span. but there are whom with longer then ours such as whales live more then 200 years. aging is prolongable and we should try to prolong our life spans. and eventually reverse it.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
why should we not atleast try to stop it?
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
I'd personally like to see it slowed down. I'd say stopping it altogether is a little drastic, and could definately brew up some potentially nasty side-effects, but simply slowing down aging, and extending the average human lifespan by a couple years, that could definately benefit the human race, as far as I'm concerned.
HevvyMettlRokkr 2 years ago
i'd respect your opinion. but i believe for example prolonging life spans by hundreds+ of years would be widely benificial to the human race as a whole due to the fact that we would save trillions annually on healthcare and other things.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
this acc is kinda an embarrassment lol.
far fewer people are taking me seriously cause cpretartedmuch is an epic failed troller's acc.
going back on my real acc. the owner of this acc is grounded i think.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
People have this misconception about death that it really is inevitable due to some magically preprogrammed number. That isn't the case at all, people die because the wear and tear that their bodies accumulate over the years renders them more susceptible to various system failures. One could argue that death is actually NOT natural. The mere existence of cancer proves that cellular death is not absolute.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
@PsychoJosh
It's not a matter of if death is inevedable or not. It's a matter of that we're tampering with something without fully understanding the consequences.
HevvyMettlRokkr 2 years ago
It doesn't really matter anyways, I think it's inevitable that something like this comes around. The technological singularity is just around the corner and, because of advancements in medicine, so is the biological singularity, so this just ensures that we live long enough to upload our minds and leave our physical bodies behind.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
@PsychoJosh Hello I have researched into anti aging and stem cell work at university. We urgently need to recruit more followers and believers to our cause and the early twenties are a good group to focus spreading the message to as they are part of the future! We need to form pressure groups and spread the word that death by aging may well just be an irrational doctrine ^^. What do you think?
3tangle3 2 years ago 2
I like it.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
YYYYep, all we need is an energy source
Transfectingood 2 years ago 2
and it can be minipulated.
we can prolong it, maybe even reverse it.
aubrey de grey and many other biologists and scientists are going to be heros one day. maybe he will not be able to live long enough to see his ideas come to life, but he will be remembered.
cpretartedmuch 2 years ago
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I will not die for death will be dead when I am old to enough die---M.Osman
rimpick 2 years ago
I read all the comments on this page.
I first of all would like to say that between Aubrey De Gray and Ray Kurzweil humans will not only live forever but be one with technology.
Ray Kurzweil's laws of accelerating returns explains how technology with affect our lives and eventually we will become post humans. (transhumanism)
Secondly, Aubrey De Gray speaks about population control, and makes a very simple suggestion.
Thirdly, religion and science do not mix. Do not pout one with the other.
sjacksonstu 2 years ago
awsome... reversing human aging is great. it will benifit humanity and the individuals in many ways. ive posted some ways on my channel.
i really hope aubrey de grey will defete human aging.
curingaging00 2 years ago 2
religeous people are fucking blind idiots who cant take their eyes off the stupid bible
cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago 17
@cpisretartedmuch non religious people are way too intelligent
imjohn007 1 year ago
@cpisretartedmuch religion may be questioned however non stop sex = spreading stds must never be condoned
yammer123 1 year ago
..I don't read the bible. But I will pray for you now.
runawaycaveman 1 year ago
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wertyjr4 1 year ago
@cpisretartedmuch take no offense to this at all ; but your statement is a perfect example of what The Bible explains as to what a "blind idiot" would say.
SHREDANDBUTTER 6 months ago
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our body has to die sometime
I think that the only way we can continue to live after death is through spiritual transformation
2012 is fast approaching
This cosmic turn of events will herald the dawn of a new age and end of the world (life) as we know it
vincegill2 2 years ago
I hate you fucking idiots who believe everything you read. You believe the random shit that new age people pull out of their ass and feed to you.
I can guarantee you that the world will be here before, during and after 2012.
hellomate639 2 years ago
no smoke without fire!
They laughed at Christopher Columbus when he said the world was round - They laughed at Edison when he invented sound
Good luck!
vincegill2 2 years ago
They also laughed when people said that Y2K was the end of the world.
hellomate639 2 years ago
hellomate639: I sure as hell hope you aren't religious then and believe anything in the Bible.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 2 years ago
I don't know what you're responding to, maybe an old comment.
Anyhow, I'm an atheist/agnostic. lol.
hellomate639 2 years ago
I was replying to your "fucking idiots" comment, glad you're a non-god fearing Atheist, as I am too... people believe what they want to believe, and there are a lot that want to believe 2012 will somehow end all life on Earth, they have a death wish of sorts, but it includes everyone, not just them.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 2 years ago
~~~~~:( We WiLl DeFeAt AgInG):~~~~~
cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
I'm very excited about some of the recent breakthroughs that Aubrey has funded. Anyone who thinks this is a scam needs to look up some of the recent advances. There is a lot of information here on youtube, but if you need more solid data there is plenty of scientific publications out there (search google) which explain in depth all of the tools they used to conduct their experiments, and what their observations were.
The fact is, there is a scientific reason why we age. It's not magic.
kaje01 2 years ago
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cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
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cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
Aubrey de Grey is the spirit of science. Just go one step forward than the others.
joulukk 2 years ago 2
Swine flu = POPULATION REDUCTION
Mongodelight 2 years ago
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Aubrey gives science a bad name.
beogradwill 2 years ago
if he were a con man then he would be speaking of something that is not true to sell a point. and death (the lack of existance) I do not see as a beautiful thing. When someone you love dies, do you not weep for that loss, and then do you not want to see them living again. you can appreciate life because you ARE alive, if you live indefinately you have a limitless future to look forward to to see mankind reach to the farthest stars, to see your great grand children have great grand children
DANRYX 2 years ago 4
I'm 19. Can I live 1000 years? I don't smoke, don't dring etc...
Hansolo60 2 years ago
you can live indefinately if you think about it, there is a gene that replenishes cells that shuts off like it's programmed to, if they can activate this gene then you will never age thus live eternally.
DANRYX 2 years ago 4
Until I get not killed by a car accident
Hansolo60 2 years ago
Mind Uploading will fix that
evgeniy13 2 years ago
lol
Hansolo60 2 years ago
Not everyone is worthy though ))))
evgeniy13 2 years ago
Religious people are not worthy! Terrorists too!
Hansolo60 2 years ago
They are not worthy to live even their short life-spans. But we will not kill them all*, because killing is not an option. We'll just erase their memories and re-sequence their DNA's.
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*- with the exception of muslims, cause there is nothing can me done X)
evgeniy13 2 years ago
I hope so
Hansolo60 2 years ago
you asshole. It's discriminative fucks like you that cause the problems in this world. fuck you.
leegwalker 2 years ago
No, not me. It's the religion.
Hansolo60 2 years ago
oh no trust me, its you.
leegwalker 2 years ago
If you think I am, then you're a sick guy...
Hansolo60 2 years ago
if you can honestly say that religious people don't deserve to live, that makes you a pretty messed up person.
leegwalker 2 years ago
i dont think anyone will be judged "not worthy". That would be ridiculous and discriminative. Like anything else in life, it will all boil down to money. If you can afford the treatment, they cannot refuse you.
Props2u 2 years ago
science that goes to the roots. i think it is necessary, that scientists aks such fundamental questions like de grey does.
kurtfelixsilbermann 2 years ago 3
I woulod not mind living a little longer and maybe healthier. Who knows, maybe the longer you take to die, the more "beautiful" Death will be.
dnovanpooper 3 years ago
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Ormaaj 3 years ago
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Stick to what you are best at. NOTHING!
Goatlord1970 3 years ago
wtf? let's see what you will say when you turn 90 and are so rotten you can't even get up to take a piss. That is if you make it to 90. anyway, you can still die from an accident or what ever, there will always be a limit even if aging is cured. And no one will make you get rejuvenated, this is a choice people will have to take. You wanna get old and die in just a be years or continue to enjoy life. I'll go with the later one.
N1RealMadridFan 3 years ago
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Believe me there are more important things than that - like sin. If perhaps he had a Godly biblical world view, his belief and work could do so much more good.
Cabanas751Dunhill 3 years ago
belief in the supernatural evidences a poverty of education - there is more evidence for the existence of Santa Claus
doooook 3 years ago
so you say- not with integrity though
Cabanas751Dunhill 3 years ago
$2.5 million worth of funding is up for grabs
If you want to support Aubrey and one of his projects called "Undergrads fighting age related disease" then go to " membersproject. com/project/view/BVVE2C " (take out the gaps)
You can vote for him there.
SpunkMaster3000 3 years ago
sounds like people have a lot to say about all this
milfballs 3 years ago
no, it is Bin Laden!
risecolt 3 years ago
Brilliant, charismatic, AND has a sense of humor, eheh. Hopefully he will be able to live long enough to benefit from the program he is so dedicated to... It is possible and simple to view aging as really a genetic disorder that we all possess, and that we must find a way to cure, as it really is the highest cause of death. Higreentj raises a good point, health care costs would be a fraction of what they currently are, and think of all the good one can do when one has an eternity to achieve it.
AzraelJahannam 3 years ago 6
i am only interested in his age. anyone know?
certifiedhealthnut 3 years ago
Wikipedia. Always a good source for answering simple questions.
(After his TED talk somebody asked Aubrey "Why is it that you make yourself appear like an old man?". Aubrey jokingly responded "Because I am an old man, I am actually 158.") Don't start having conspiracy theories now people.
Shademp 3 years ago
i saw TED and then found myself on wikepedia after i googled him...i always forget you can google everything now. anyhow check out my anti-aging video inspired by all this. one thing i feel that is left out of THIS element of immortality is spirit. you also see it in the whole NWO movement. it is this diabolical dark element of male dominance control instead of allowing and knowing we are immortal, activating the physical vehicle to be a super "machine" able for transport interdimensionally.
certifiedhealthnut 3 years ago
I remember when I was 10-11 years old and desperately dreamt of a world in which immortality was achievable. I said to myself "when I grow up I will become a scientist and defeat aging!". Time proved that the science of aging did not become my profession or even an obsession, which makes me extra happy to see my childhood dreams manifested in this man.
Good luck Aubrey de Grey, I hope that you and others like you will reach their goal.
Shademp 3 years ago 6
when i was 5 year old and just some days before it would be year 2000. I asked my mother. "will i live untill year 3000?" my mom said "yes" and she migth be right. but of course some mins later she said no xD
Ironandtheshizzelz 3 years ago
Aging causes a lot of suffering and it is very expensive. If we can end it we will all be much healthier and wealthier. Don`t you all want to be rich and healthy?
higreentj 3 years ago 5
Why is it that nobody who complains about overpopulation ever volunteers to remove himself/herself immediately from the planet?
Why is it that none of the people who say they don't want to live forever ever say they want to die tomorrow?
amperro 3 years ago
whatever I was trying trying to say natural order should be left alone, sorry for offending so many fans here!! Live long and prosper!! LOL!
tucanchew32 3 years ago
tucanchew32, have you ever heard about reproductive control? We don't need to kill anyone if there are no new people. I don't know about you, but I don't want to die, hell, I have faith in Allah, but I still want to remain upon this plain of existence as long as possible. The scientists, these men, they are pursuing the potential of a deathless, eternal society, in which all is life. The pursuit of the cure for death is our top priority,without it,we are finite, and so is then any other pursuit.
AzraelJahannam 3 years ago
You should be finite through your offspring, listen to your grandparents and evolve in that manner! Genetic strains do mutate SO if you intervene instead of letting natural order carry out then you are playin god and that is luciferian! But when I die and YOU all will I won't have to tell him I messed in a LAB with what he made perfect! God have mercy on you all and apolgies for rude response. Secondly unless this man works for fre your gettin into class systems? Do you think he works for free??
tucanchew32 3 years ago
I take it you mean infinite through your offspring(rather than infinite as an individual). The wheel is unnatural. medicines are unnatural. This is just as unnatural and no less. I am not about to become a dieing hippie or extinct Homish. God never said anything about us not being able to cure the disease of old age,just like he never said we could not try to cure cancer.Should we stop giving people vaccines so they can die naturally from basic diseases?that is contributing to overpopulation too
AzraelJahannam 3 years ago
OK so we make everybody live forever, now we gotta go around shooting people cuz were running outta food and getting crowded? Leave what nature made alone pls, fucking scientists man I swear!!
tucanchew32 3 years ago
Food prices will drop dramatically within 10 years, thanks to GM crops and test tube meat.
All land which is now used to keep livestock can then be used to harvest crops.
There is enough room for 100+ billion humans on Earth if we start living in skyscrapers, like on 'Coruscant' from the movie 'Star Wars'. And what about floating cities at sea? Or colonies on other planets?
Think before you start calling names. Keep in mind that without the help of science you would have been dead by now.
SouLDja88 3 years ago
I would tell you to watch the movie the world according to monsanto, but someone took it off the web? But if you believe in GMO food by all means keep eating it,pls! I believe it's leading us to biological disaster! Just my opinion. Personally I'll stick with organic, good luck with all that. oh thanks for knowing how many times science saved my life?
tucanchew32 3 years ago
The people who dislike GM crops often don't understand it and get spooked out by environmental or religious organisations, which often don't understand it either. In this case Greenpeace. It's as safe as normal food is, it can even be healthier. I have eaten the weirdest stuff at the university from GM rice to purple pancakes, I feel fine.
Your 33 years old according to your profile. Without vaccines, hygiene and housing you would have either been killed by some animal or died by infection ;)
SouLDja88 3 years ago 3
It really is the most important thing.
TheReasonWhyGuy 3 years ago 2
Some of these organs are articular cartilage, intervertebral discs and teeth. Our control of wound healing after surgery when dealing with these heavy load-bearing organs is still very limited.
gtjhuang 3 years ago
New organs could be grown to replace old organs. Just the same as cars are kept going for many, many decades by replacing old parts.
SailorBarsoom 3 years ago
The most effective key to reverse aging is to narrow down the genetic programs that cause the systemic aging process and reprogram them. This may be achieved via current advancement in high-throughput system analysis, microarrays, mathematical modeling of the intricate signal transduction pathways, etc. However, there are organs that are built to be used only for at most 80-90 yrs. It will be very cumbersome to constantly fixing them via tissue engineering.
gtjhuang 3 years ago
I don't think we are close to solving it. It may take another 200 yrs. However, I do agree though that this is two of the most important research focuses of all. The other is the colonization of other planets.
We need more funding and a focused effort to achieve this goal sooner.
gtjhuang 3 years ago
>It may take another 200 yrs.
I would guess that 100 years is the amount of time it would take to "sleep-walk", through normal research, into a full-body tissue repair routine that would effectively neutralise aging. The idea of SENS is to consolidate seperate strands of reseach in order to hasten this to 30 years.
inkstersco 3 years ago
I gived u a + becose u think that imortality and the power too reach other planests is the most important resarche.But 200 yrs...that is not true in my opinion more like 25-50 or max 75-100 [my opinion]
Sawyer19SiR 3 years ago
De Grey, Bostrom, Kurzweil... they are the people who will be remembered as 'visionaries' by future generations.
caius112 3 years ago
Future generations? Would we have room for them? Remebered? Won't they still be alive?
Seriously, this is a scam. Use your brain.
stevekap8 3 years ago
>Seriously, this is a scam.
Wrong. Check your facts.
The Methuselah Foundation is a 501(c)(3) registered charity; its IRS tax identification number is 54-2040344. It's a non-profit organisation.
~Iain
inkstersco 3 years ago 2
It has a tax number? Well, then, it couldn't be a scam. I take it all back.
stevekap8 3 years ago
>Well, then, it couldn't be a scam.
Right, because a registered charity is incapable of profit, because it is subject to the checks and measures of the state in which is was registered.
~Iain
inkstersco 3 years ago
naive:
1: marked by unaffected simplicity : artless, ingenuous
2 a: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment;
stevekap8 3 years ago
>informed judgment
Go on then. Show us your information.
~Iain
inkstersco 3 years ago
1) Direct appeal to public for cash
2) Use of conspiracy theories
3) Using buzz words w/out regard to their meaning (eg "Longevity Meme")
4) Unusual bona fides
5) Making remarkable promises
6) Appeals to greatest fears
Its like an instruction book from con man 101.
stevekap8 3 years ago
inkstersco 3 years ago
Oh dear...
Here are the consipiry theories that M.F. presents:
1) The scientific establishment is standing in the way of "anti aging technology"
2) Ethical or religious concerns are standing in the way of "anti aging technology"
Google bona fides, I'm sure you'll find its a noun.
stevekap8 3 years ago
>1) The scientific establishment is standing >in the way of "anti aging technology"
Not a conspiracy, nor even a secret. They are very specific about it. The relevant authorities *specifically* refuse to recognise aging as a disease. It is their specific and open policy to let the condition go untreated.
>2) Ethical or religious concerns are >standing in the way of "anti aging >technology"
I think this is a demonstrable and obvious truth.
~Iain
inkstersco 3 years ago
inkstersco 3 years ago
I think you just described most religions! ;)
griff500grr 3 years ago
All the power, to the supporters and the human race!
RaptorX137 3 years ago