holy crap, i don't even pull off the amount of smart moves in one whole game than he does every 20 seconds. maybe that's why i get my ass whooped all the time.
Quake isn't about skills, it's simply about remembering the timer and when armor and health respawns, it has little to do with aim and even a child can add numbers. So, no skills really..
@pineapple123321 BWAHAHAHAHA! just remembering the timer? well, sure, there's TIMINGS to memorize and apply, but any of the items can be taken at any time (MAJOR PREDICTION); there's also more than the major items to time, so there's at least a dozen timings to keep track of (let's see u do that now), and aiming... let's see you master about 5 different core weapons and use them in any situation, even ones they're not good in...
@pineapple123321 and more on aim, if two players have equally effective strategies, then it's all aim. also: let's see you hit perfect shots every single time. cmon. put up the demo.
hmm I really like how the game looks in these videos. It is there is a good amount of detail, but at the same time walls and floors look very smooth... This is not simply changing r_picmip... any dieas which are some of the key variables i should change in my config?
Yes both quake, counter-strike and call if duty require different "skills" however a quake player like myself and ANY other high level quake player can pick up any FPS game and totally rape within a day or two due to the fact the reaction time and aim is far superior to any other FPS game. So all in all QUAKE All other fps games.
Watch a counterstrike or cod player try play quake, they will never get good enough to compete if they play the game for 6months+
@skybringdeath actually, you will die in counter-strike because recoil exists. A counter-strike player will easily rape in Quake, because the aiming will be really easy.
@NoMoreDudes no he won't, aiming in quake is so irrelevant, this game shows it perfectly, in cs you're punished for any kind of movement due to recoil, you're forced by the game to move slowly, play campy, in quake you need such movement fluidity and perfect timing on items, it's a whole different level from games like cs or cod, no cs player will have skills to do that because none of the military shooters have that, they're all about aiming while aiming in quake is like 30% maybe
@audun0905@ch72105 Both games require different sets of skills; Neither of your comments are constructive or needed in any way, play what you like and stop being children about it.
can someone explain what he means with : that grenade probably forced him to decide im not gonna attack trough here cause he has railgun ? ??? at 14:06 ...
@Collingho22 lol me too i dont even play quake but this is so fun!! I would actually play but India has no servers and i would probably get shit ping to foreign countries :(
I dont need the recording of the event, but i need this very kind of interview - with the same host (dont know who is he >_<), but with another players.
Quake live is the most modern version of Quake at the moment in terms of multiplayer, you clearly either mean quake 2 or quake 3 arena, now I know you're a casual and you probably play shitty call of duty games all day
@GrawrawrLPs What i meant was that I used to play quake1-2-3 like crazy back in the good old days, but i never gave MP a chance. I didn't know Quake Live was as new as it is, my mistake.
And yeah, I play a lot of shitty call of duty games. So what?
Wow, I knew that this game was complex but from watching this... holy crap is there a lot to know when playing this game at a top level. Wow. That's just amazing.
Bethesda just wanted to sue him, and rightly so, he's a massive faggot.
Such an idea is childish on Notch's part a court case is not a fucking game.
Notch is a moron, nuff said and you're an idiot for thinking that Mojang could even win, I highly doubt any of the eastern european morons could even play vidya.
Cs 1.6 is just as hard and competive as quake live, believe it or not. Saying it's a bad competive game is the most stupid shit i've ever heard. Look at lan prize money difference between QL and CS. And cod4 is a great game which requires alot of skill. People like you who ONLY think the game you play is good are pathetic. CS is much bigger, harder and more competive then quake. Cod4 is a great game, hard to master. Check prodragon71 on youtube, it's more complicated then camping.
Don't think you have any idea how much time teams spend on tactics and communication compared to aim and movement. 99 percent of the time they practise it's only strategies, tactics, communication and time differences etc. If you want to become the best in cs with a team you're gonna have to dedicate every single hour of your life for several years. I mean the top level players are so unstopable at their tactics you would probably never even be able to resist. It's bigger then quake.
@audun0905 CS is a slow game that requires very good team coordination and hitscan aim, and has the other aspect the economy. Also the game that started e sports was quake. Both are different games, but i think quake is the king of all competitive fps in terms of 1v1, but if you take quake tdm to its limits, hands down, not even cs can match that. for me the trinity of competitive games is:
cs is from 1999? Not a big differemce. Ofcourse quake is best for 1v1 and tdm, no doubt, but CS is just as hard to challenge as quake. Yes you might have to time 4 items, but in CS you have to gather information from your teammates based on them peaking the opponments, and come together with a solution where to attack and fall back, and what weapon and eco the opponments have. CS is the mother of teamplay and tactics, and both cs and quake requires same iq and game knowledge.
And yes, quake was the thing that started e-sports, but CS was the thing that made it insanely big. I mean it was aired on numeious tv channels and really brought gaming mainstream. Gaming wouldn't even be remotely close to where it's at without CS. Cs is also on every single big LAN in the world with the highest prizes. In almost every event CS is the main game. Not that that has anything to say for which game is better but anyways..
@audun0905 Doom was on the scene way before Quake even appeared, First Quakecons was focused around Doom, and due to those players competitng did they hop over to the Quake franchise. There were loads of other games even before Doom which started out esports, it goes way back to the early 90s
@audun0905 Your game is like a joke to us, when somebody is getting raped in a Quake game we say to them "go play CS"
How do you move forward in CS? Oh, you hold down W?
Here's how we move forward:
[mright100º] W A [mleft100º] [space] [mleft15º] [space] [mright32º] D [space] [mleft34º] A [space] [mright 36º] D [space] [mleft38º] A [space] [mright40º] D [space] [mleft25º]
Now pack up your skill comparison arguments and kindly get the fuck out, we're watching Rapha in here
@ch72105 Didn't know quake players were so arrogant then. CS is a joke? It's the most skill demanding team based FPS shooter in the history of video games my friend. How do you syncronize 7 flashes, 4 smokes, 4 nades and 5 different pushes as a team - at the same time? Practise, practise, practise and skill. You most likely haven't even seen the cyx game analyse vs PGS in WCG finals, and you think you can even say a word about CS. Rofl, gotta love the newfags who think they have a clue.
And I know that quake is one of the most hard and challenging games out there, no doubt, but CS has been the mother of FPS games for so many years, and the dedication the top teams and players put into it is just insane. i've played both games equally much and i'm not a fanboy of either of them. But cs is harder to master. Remember that in quake it's usually played 1v1 in major events, on cs you have 5 players who must work together EXTREMELY well to win. You can't win alone in cs
@audun0905 CS has quake 1 DNA it uses an heavily modified idtech 1. In a quake duel you have to focus on timing 4 items to the second, have ridiculous aim, position, enemy awareness, also movement is much more difficult than CS. If you consider quake tdm it takes everything duel takes plus tactics and weapon timming.
Quake has another thing that CS lacks, The vertical fights and height advantages are much more determinant in quake.
@audun0905 I've watched / played CS for 10 years and I disagree. Quake is a more demanding game, SC2 too for that matter. Go watch cArn's CS analysis videos, he barely has anything to say compared to rapha, because there's less to analyze.
@crazyboyxx Not really, I don't play it because it got boring fast, and was more about item control than player skill. QL doesn't even have headshots, it is a lot easier to just hit people in the body than in the head.
You want a hard and punishing game, play STALKER with the LURK mod.
@mshartz5 Not really, been playing FPS games for close to 20 years. A challenging game doesn't bother me. I don't see it having a gigantic learning curve at all. It is all about who grabs the best gear first, same as all the quake games were.
I played Quake 2 online, it was pretty enjoyable, but I don't think I had played tactical shooters yet, so I had no comparison for another style of FPS. I grew up playing all those DM games online, Duke, Doom2, Quake, unreal, ect.
It's not like that at all. Good players exploit time differences between items and easely take advantages of it. If you have played fps games for 20 years and is so stupid I really feel bad for you and your 20 last years
@audun0905 Not stupid at all, thanks. I mainly prefer "tactical shooters" which is more about player skill and aiming ability than what weapon or powerup you have.
It is like that, even he was constantly commenting on "item control".
@glasscube It is tactics, I was differentiating between player skill and item control. I meant more along the lines of having a chance with starting weapons, rather than having to depend on picking up another gun, which may or may not happen.
The game is too dependent on items. You should be able to do good, without picking anything up, if you have the skill. Powerups should confer an advantage, but you should be able to do without them.
@dedcat27 Well there aren't many games you can compare Quake to as far as competitive traits go. There are CS1.6 and CSS. Even in those games you lose a pistol round and you either make it up by getting some lucky/skillful kills or you save up. Two games that look to achieve the same thing in very different ways, and in my opinion both pull them off very well. (but both have "momentum" to gain/lose by very little mistakes)
Props for having a polite reply even if I came off as a dick
@dedcat27 That's how you look at quake? The player who picks up the guns and items fastest has won the game? Christ, dumbest shit i've ever read. Good players find gaps between items, challenge to see when theya re picked up and retreat to yellows/25 healths. Look at rapha: He delayed megatime so he had 2 seconds to take red, heavely outstacked by cooller. What happened? He got back in the game by exploiting time differences and eventually won. Quake is nothing but mind and skill
Then how do people come back in games with no stack, where the opponment is fully stacked with all weapons? I don't play quake active, but I do play cod4 and cs 1.6 active. It doesn't just take aim and map control to win duels in quake, it takes timing precision, positioning, movement and item control. A good player easely comes back against a fully stacked opponment if he know's what he's doing. When you deny that, just so obv that you can't come back in games because you're dire
@crazyboyxx Well, yes, CS at least inspired teamplay and coordination, CODs always were the sitting-duck-shoot-out type of game. :\
I don't play more QL just cuz it doesn't addict me so much. It's not cuz it's hard, I played HL2dm for 4 years, and I still can't find a harder game and with such a high skill ceiling and versatility (if only Valve would care... sigh). Still I think Quake is challenging enough to be a great game, only more linear than HL2dm, but more balanced. It's my 2nd fave. :)
@88Cortex Well, strafejumping was a physics bug in Quake 1, but since everyone loved it so much, id said "sure, why not" and made it an 'official' movement trick.
why isn't there a new one of these for the latest of rapha's games ?? seriously, come one - get to it... like why are you not uploading it right now??
This is probably my favorite gaming-related video here in YouTube. I`ve already watched this four times in the two days since I`ve first seen it, which is amazing considering it`s almost 19 minutes. I never knew Quake III had this much strategic depth to be honest.
guys if u think this game is a bit too fast paced try Uberstrike. Fun gameplay, same controls, even strafing. Less maps, but more active forums and hilarious players.
While I have not Played PC Quake (Played Quake 3 Arena on the Dreamcast), I love how this is broken down. I wouldn't mind playing this or Unreal Tournament again after seeing this high-class video, even if FPS isn't my strong point.
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Looks like an old pc fps. No vehicles, no classes, no teamplay, unrealistic weapons and brainless run and gun. Modern console fps' are so much better than this - more immersive, tactical and playing them with the controller requires real skill. Believe me, consoles are the future of the fps gaming, I know what I'm talking about.
@KhanFus1on well obvioulsy you dont know what you are talking about cause q3matches in 2001/2002 on WCG were the most interessting fps games with a price of 250K for first place so could you show off a game that had so much success as q3a had? oh btw q3a was never about graphics it was all about the game itself (arenastyle, speed and so on ..)
I'm a counter strike source player who has just started playing quake live. The last time I played a deathmatch game was quake 2. This video is amazing! A real eye opener to how complex and tactical this frantic game can be.
And who said quake was simply shooting and jumping
vhwp123 4 days ago
lol where are graphics??!
SHARRUNAS 6 days ago
@SHARRUNAS Pro config turns down the graphics for smoother gaming and better visibility.
Scremph 5 days ago
@Scremph Did not know that. Thanks.
SHARRUNAS 5 days ago
fucking amazing how he read the game
bordooobereli 6 days ago
at 16.38 they mention a particular fight. what do they say? i only understand "quakecon" :( i'd like to see that demo/video if it's on youtube
pasquale90 1 week ago
@pasquale90 At quakecon 2009 Rapha lost the game in with one second left.
Niemtol2 1 week ago
holy crap, i don't even pull off the amount of smart moves in one whole game than he does every 20 seconds. maybe that's why i get my ass whooped all the time.
staxstix 2 weeks ago
Chek out the video that i made new intro
xIEnzocinema 3 weeks ago
Those opening two rockets make me jizz my pants every time.
ZakharovProkhor 3 weeks ago
My friend is an idiot and thinks halo takes more skill than quake, can you give me reasons to prove him wrong?
ElementSwing 3 weeks ago
@ElementSwing Show him this video.
redefn199 1 week ago
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2002puravida 3 weeks ago
Quake isn't about skills, it's simply about remembering the timer and when armor and health respawns, it has little to do with aim and even a child can add numbers. So, no skills really..
pineapple123321 3 weeks ago
@pineapple123321 roflol. Pretty sure any decent quake player own any kind of fps regarding aim.
Riven1989 3 weeks ago
@pineapple123321 BWAHAHAHAHA! just remembering the timer? well, sure, there's TIMINGS to memorize and apply, but any of the items can be taken at any time (MAJOR PREDICTION); there's also more than the major items to time, so there's at least a dozen timings to keep track of (let's see u do that now), and aiming... let's see you master about 5 different core weapons and use them in any situation, even ones they're not good in...
about half the game is pure aiming.
darklordfry 3 weeks ago
@pineapple123321 and more on aim, if two players have equally effective strategies, then it's all aim. also: let's see you hit perfect shots every single time. cmon. put up the demo.
darklordfry 3 weeks ago
@pineapple123321 lol it involves counting? i guess that's why you're so bad at it 8)
gmc5626 2 weeks ago
@pineapple123321 Lessee those pro demos bro.
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hmm I really like how the game looks in these videos. It is there is a good amount of detail, but at the same time walls and floors look very smooth... This is not simply changing r_picmip... any dieas which are some of the key variables i should change in my config?
HeaDStrongTerran 1 month ago
damn he thinks fast
loriazasz 1 month ago
Yes both quake, counter-strike and call if duty require different "skills" however a quake player like myself and ANY other high level quake player can pick up any FPS game and totally rape within a day or two due to the fact the reaction time and aim is far superior to any other FPS game. So all in all QUAKE All other fps games.
Watch a counterstrike or cod player try play quake, they will never get good enough to compete if they play the game for 6months+
skybringdeath 1 month ago
@skybringdeath actually, you will die in counter-strike because recoil exists. A counter-strike player will easily rape in Quake, because the aiming will be really easy.
NoMoreDudes 1 month ago
@NoMoreDudes Not really, since aim alone won't get you very far in quake.
Eddii3 1 month ago
@NoMoreDudes no he won't, aiming in quake is so irrelevant, this game shows it perfectly, in cs you're punished for any kind of movement due to recoil, you're forced by the game to move slowly, play campy, in quake you need such movement fluidity and perfect timing on items, it's a whole different level from games like cs or cod, no cs player will have skills to do that because none of the military shooters have that, they're all about aiming while aiming in quake is like 30% maybe
mrsoultwister 4 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Rapha is fenomenal ,not only that he is a quake master,he is so decent and polite,its really cool listening him ,n1 man.
rockOdaddy 1 month ago 2
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MonCoin 1 month ago
@MonCoin
mayb because you are the most boring person in planet earth?
zilkoify 1 month ago
how is this map called?
TheDynamicTV 1 month ago
@TheDynamicTV Campgrounds
steve13577 1 month ago
Awesome I hope to see more of these!
kassie2k4 1 month ago
damn people still playing on gameboys in 2010, the fuck?
do0rkn0b 1 month ago
@do0rkn0b go back to battlefag kid, you have no idea why the settings are low
qlspadex 1 month ago
@qlspadex inability to adapt, fps players have this problem. it's k.
do0rkn0b 1 month ago
@do0rkn0b your an moran
qlspadex 1 month ago
@qlspadex you can't spell, most fps players have this problem. it's k.
do0rkn0b 1 month ago
@do0rkn0b ur sarcasm detector is broken i guess
fps is true master race of gaming
p.s: ur an moran
qlspadex 1 month ago
@qlspadex "ur"
do0rkn0b 1 month ago
QL requires more skills than CS. Period.
FatherTuck 1 month ago
@FatherTuck true. Quake, UT, Teeworlds, Warsow is always harden than css or cs (:
ShuffleOli 1 month ago
@FatherTuck Before you call me a "cs fanboy" or whatever, i play both. i think they require different kinds of skill, can't compare the two
Psycho255 1 month ago
@Psycho255 I'm not trying to argue or anything... just saying how it is ;)
FatherTuck 1 month ago
how to put that graphic i mean what settings? im newbie
funnytowels 2 months ago
@funnytowels Texture Detail: Low Lighting Model: Lightmapped
I prefer to use Texture Detail: Poor + Vertex or Lightmapped.
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@Dr3eamion thanks much <3
funnytowels 2 months ago
@audun0905 @ch72105 Both games require different sets of skills; Neither of your comments are constructive or needed in any way, play what you like and stop being children about it.
619Vital 2 months ago 2
Why does he have earplugs and a headphone? Please reply
pylyp123456 2 months ago
@pylyp123456 so he doesn't hear the commentary + crowd
darklordfry 2 months ago
@pylyp123456
yeah the ' headphone ' are like aircraft ear protection. can't hear anything other than the game.
johnplayerspecial88 2 months ago
its a shame that Quake 3's greatest legacy is spawning that shitty fucking Modern Warfare engine and series
utubeaccount00 2 months ago 2
BEAST
iTrollSoDamnHard 2 months ago
What map is this?
arandomu 2 months ago
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RenegadeFury 2 months ago
@RenegadeFury Thanks
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@arandomu campgrounds/dm6
RenegadeFury 2 months ago
@arandomu JESUS CHRIST DAFUQ MAN, this is q3dm6
eldrotto 3 weeks ago
@lotmein20 ak thx
nevelsight 2 months ago
@lotmein20 but how did he know about the rail since cooller didnt see rapha pick it up
nevelsight 2 months ago
@nevelsight Experience and playing the game a loooot
Reader90909 2 months ago
can someone explain what he means with : that grenade probably forced him to decide im not gonna attack trough here cause he has railgun ? ??? at 14:06 ...
cause that doesnt really make sense for me atm
nevelsight 2 months ago
This is amazing commentary!
AlaselSerpentGA 3 months ago 28
dont even play quake but i kinda enjoyed this lol
Collingho22 3 months ago 16
@Collingho22 lol me too i dont even play quake but this is so fun!! I would actually play but India has no servers and i would probably get shit ping to foreign countries :(
bfmvshinigami 3 months ago
nice! :)
najtrows 3 months ago in playlist Intel Extreme Masters archive #1
11:27 another amazing rail
I1am1one 3 months ago
white people all look the same
ev8lol 3 months ago
@ev8lol ohok
BenjiGalore 3 months ago
So, Is there more of such shows? Or its just 2: Rapha vs Cooller and Cooller vs Rapha?
MrGammaGoblin 3 months ago
@MrGammaGoblin
watch?v=U6NuMyXw1Hs is the entire 4 game match.
SALordBaxter 3 months ago
@SALordBaxter
No, no)
I dont need the recording of the event, but i need this very kind of interview - with the same host (dont know who is he >_<), but with another players.
MrGammaGoblin 3 months ago
Great explaination by rapha!
casterama 3 months ago
It's incredible how many smart decisions he makes that he doesn't even have time to explain.
Brilliant player.
motfy1 3 months ago 58
@motfy1 No more amazing than any other set of subconscious skills people have.
MrNiggerseverywhere 3 months ago
@MrNiggerseverywhere Go play quake live competitively then say that.
shhhhhhQQ 3 months ago
Can you do more of these, preferably at a language wich the player master, so that the analysis doesn't suffer.
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DirectorGoss 4 months ago
rapha is boss
QuakeL1ve 4 months ago
whats with slowmo...?
darklordfry 4 months ago
I feel so stupid for not trying out Quake Live back in the old days...
FatherTuck 4 months ago 2
@FatherTuck
What do you mean Quake Live back in the old days?
Quake live is the most modern version of Quake at the moment in terms of multiplayer, you clearly either mean quake 2 or quake 3 arena, now I know you're a casual and you probably play shitty call of duty games all day
GrawrawrLPs 4 months ago in playlist minxamo's Favourited Videos
@GrawrawrLPs What i meant was that I used to play quake1-2-3 like crazy back in the good old days, but i never gave MP a chance. I didn't know Quake Live was as new as it is, my mistake.
And yeah, I play a lot of shitty call of duty games. So what?
FatherTuck 4 months ago
This is strangely fascinating.
frenchheadbutt 5 months ago 2
thats mah nigga right there
madkvideo 5 months ago
Wow, I knew that this game was complex but from watching this... holy crap is there a lot to know when playing this game at a top level. Wow. That's just amazing.
mikecmtong 5 months ago 3
Cooller? it's no hard to do?
iGuru0000 5 months ago
hey guys is TDM or FFA or dual games better than elimation?
XxXI3linkXxX 5 months ago
@XxXI3linkXxX my momgg
Voician 5 months ago
I place my bet on Bethesda.
izvarzone 5 months ago
@izvarzone Bethesda chickened out and if i was on notch's team he would win hands down/
hellsing4life 5 months ago
@hellsing4life
Bethesda just wanted to sue him, and rightly so, he's a massive faggot.
Such an idea is childish on Notch's part a court case is not a fucking game.
Notch is a moron, nuff said and you're an idiot for thinking that Mojang could even win, I highly doubt any of the eastern european morons could even play vidya.
GrawrawrLPs 4 months ago in playlist minxamo's Favourited Videos
@GrawrawrLPs
Notch is one massive faggot. Bethesda is full of massive, lying faggots, with toddler leading them.
Also, I bet eastern europeans know more about vidya than people in uk, the console land of the EU.
BlackSephir 4 months ago
crazy rail by cooller at 7:22
r0llskyay0 5 months ago 26
@r0llskyay0 holy shit i didnt even notice that
CyanLodberg 5 months ago
@r0llskyay0 not all all =(
pokerchobo 4 months ago
@r0llskyay0 i think that was a shotty shot
Timic83tc 2 months ago
The interviewer sounds like he's about to sleep.
veeableful 5 months ago
@crazyboyxx
You're shit at gaming btw, hi5
audun0905 5 months ago
@crazyboyxx
Cs 1.6 is just as hard and competive as quake live, believe it or not. Saying it's a bad competive game is the most stupid shit i've ever heard. Look at lan prize money difference between QL and CS. And cod4 is a great game which requires alot of skill. People like you who ONLY think the game you play is good are pathetic. CS is much bigger, harder and more competive then quake. Cod4 is a great game, hard to master. Check prodragon71 on youtube, it's more complicated then camping.
audun0905 5 months ago
@audun0905 harder and more competive then quake. fail
uuuaaaaaa 5 months ago
@uuuaaaaaa
Don't think you have any idea how much time teams spend on tactics and communication compared to aim and movement. 99 percent of the time they practise it's only strategies, tactics, communication and time differences etc. If you want to become the best in cs with a team you're gonna have to dedicate every single hour of your life for several years. I mean the top level players are so unstopable at their tactics you would probably never even be able to resist. It's bigger then quake.
audun0905 5 months ago
@audun0905 CS is a slow game that requires very good team coordination and hitscan aim, and has the other aspect the economy. Also the game that started e sports was quake. Both are different games, but i think quake is the king of all competitive fps in terms of 1v1, but if you take quake tdm to its limits, hands down, not even cs can match that. for me the trinity of competitive games is:
Quake
CS
Starcraft
Quake games are played since 1996 ;)
uuuaaaaaa 5 months ago
@uuuaaaaaa
cs is from 1999? Not a big differemce. Ofcourse quake is best for 1v1 and tdm, no doubt, but CS is just as hard to challenge as quake. Yes you might have to time 4 items, but in CS you have to gather information from your teammates based on them peaking the opponments, and come together with a solution where to attack and fall back, and what weapon and eco the opponments have. CS is the mother of teamplay and tactics, and both cs and quake requires same iq and game knowledge.
audun0905 5 months ago
@audun0905
And yes, quake was the thing that started e-sports, but CS was the thing that made it insanely big. I mean it was aired on numeious tv channels and really brought gaming mainstream. Gaming wouldn't even be remotely close to where it's at without CS. Cs is also on every single big LAN in the world with the highest prizes. In almost every event CS is the main game. Not that that has anything to say for which game is better but anyways..
audun0905 5 months ago
@audun0905 Doom was on the scene way before Quake even appeared, First Quakecons was focused around Doom, and due to those players competitng did they hop over to the Quake franchise. There were loads of other games even before Doom which started out esports, it goes way back to the early 90s
OptonDark 5 months ago in playlist Quake
@audun0905 Your game is like a joke to us, when somebody is getting raped in a Quake game we say to them "go play CS"
How do you move forward in CS? Oh, you hold down W?
Here's how we move forward:
[mright100º] W A [mleft100º] [space] [mleft15º] [space] [mright32º] D [space] [mleft34º] A [space] [mright 36º] D [space] [mleft38º] A [space] [mright40º] D [space] [mleft25º]
Now pack up your skill comparison arguments and kindly get the fuck out, we're watching Rapha in here
ch72105 2 months ago
@ch72105 Didn't know quake players were so arrogant then. CS is a joke? It's the most skill demanding team based FPS shooter in the history of video games my friend. How do you syncronize 7 flashes, 4 smokes, 4 nades and 5 different pushes as a team - at the same time? Practise, practise, practise and skill. You most likely haven't even seen the cyx game analyse vs PGS in WCG finals, and you think you can even say a word about CS. Rofl, gotta love the newfags who think they have a clue.
audun0905 2 months ago
@audun0905 Amen, playing competetive CS is incredible hard.
Defilezz 2 months ago
@uuuaaaaaa
And I know that quake is one of the most hard and challenging games out there, no doubt, but CS has been the mother of FPS games for so many years, and the dedication the top teams and players put into it is just insane. i've played both games equally much and i'm not a fanboy of either of them. But cs is harder to master. Remember that in quake it's usually played 1v1 in major events, on cs you have 5 players who must work together EXTREMELY well to win. You can't win alone in cs
audun0905 5 months ago
@audun0905 CS has quake 1 DNA it uses an heavily modified idtech 1. In a quake duel you have to focus on timing 4 items to the second, have ridiculous aim, position, enemy awareness, also movement is much more difficult than CS. If you consider quake tdm it takes everything duel takes plus tactics and weapon timming.
Quake has another thing that CS lacks, The vertical fights and height advantages are much more determinant in quake.
uuuaaaaaa 5 months ago
@audun0905 I've watched / played CS for 10 years and I disagree. Quake is a more demanding game, SC2 too for that matter. Go watch cArn's CS analysis videos, he barely has anything to say compared to rapha, because there's less to analyze.
teooo 2 months ago 2
@teooo Carn is a bad player, and carn's videos isn't even well done. Go watch the analyzes of cyx vs PGS in WCG:)
audun0905 2 months ago
tshort ? istanbul :D , turkey :D
uKurtksk 6 months ago
Such a well manner gamer.. good guy Rapha
twintiperen94 6 months ago 4
@crazyboyxx Not really, I don't play it because it got boring fast, and was more about item control than player skill. QL doesn't even have headshots, it is a lot easier to just hit people in the body than in the head.
You want a hard and punishing game, play STALKER with the LURK mod.
dedcat27 6 months ago
@dedcat27
You don't play it because it has a GIGANTIC learning curve.
Stalker is a great game...but you are comparing apples to banana smoothies.
mshartz5 6 months ago
@mshartz5 Not really, been playing FPS games for close to 20 years. A challenging game doesn't bother me. I don't see it having a gigantic learning curve at all. It is all about who grabs the best gear first, same as all the quake games were.
I played Quake 2 online, it was pretty enjoyable, but I don't think I had played tactical shooters yet, so I had no comparison for another style of FPS. I grew up playing all those DM games online, Duke, Doom2, Quake, unreal, ect.
dedcat27 6 months ago
@dedcat27
Well, CA has been my mode of choice and gear spawning means nothing in that.
mshartz5 6 months ago
@dedcat2 lol.
noobyvids3 6 months ago
@dedcat27
It's not like that at all. Good players exploit time differences between items and easely take advantages of it. If you have played fps games for 20 years and is so stupid I really feel bad for you and your 20 last years
audun0905 6 months ago
@audun0905 Not stupid at all, thanks. I mainly prefer "tactical shooters" which is more about player skill and aiming ability than what weapon or powerup you have.
It is like that, even he was constantly commenting on "item control".
dedcat27 6 months ago
@dedcat27 Item Control isn't tactics? Positioning isn't tactics? Dumbest shit I ever read.
glasscube 6 months ago
@glasscube It is tactics, I was differentiating between player skill and item control. I meant more along the lines of having a chance with starting weapons, rather than having to depend on picking up another gun, which may or may not happen.
The game is too dependent on items. You should be able to do good, without picking anything up, if you have the skill. Powerups should confer an advantage, but you should be able to do without them.
dedcat27 6 months ago
@dedcat27 Well there aren't many games you can compare Quake to as far as competitive traits go. There are CS1.6 and CSS. Even in those games you lose a pistol round and you either make it up by getting some lucky/skillful kills or you save up. Two games that look to achieve the same thing in very different ways, and in my opinion both pull them off very well. (but both have "momentum" to gain/lose by very little mistakes)
Props for having a polite reply even if I came off as a dick
glasscube 6 months ago
@dedcat27 That's how you look at quake? The player who picks up the guns and items fastest has won the game? Christ, dumbest shit i've ever read. Good players find gaps between items, challenge to see when theya re picked up and retreat to yellows/25 healths. Look at rapha: He delayed megatime so he had 2 seconds to take red, heavely outstacked by cooller. What happened? He got back in the game by exploiting time differences and eventually won. Quake is nothing but mind and skill
audun0905 6 months ago
@dedcat27 why should you be able to good with the weakest weapon in the game and 0 armor
noobyvids3 6 months ago
@dedcat27
Then how do people come back in games with no stack, where the opponment is fully stacked with all weapons? I don't play quake active, but I do play cod4 and cs 1.6 active. It doesn't just take aim and map control to win duels in quake, it takes timing precision, positioning, movement and item control. A good player easely comes back against a fully stacked opponment if he know's what he's doing. When you deny that, just so obv that you can't come back in games because you're dire
audun0905 6 months ago
@TheNMOMC2 derp
Archy506 6 months ago
Rocket Science :)
XSFlanger 6 months ago 4
TF2 was good when there were no extra weapons and it wasn't hat fortress 2
noobyvids3 6 months ago
@crazyboyxx Well, yes, CS at least inspired teamplay and coordination, CODs always were the sitting-duck-shoot-out type of game. :\
I don't play more QL just cuz it doesn't addict me so much. It's not cuz it's hard, I played HL2dm for 4 years, and I still can't find a harder game and with such a high skill ceiling and versatility (if only Valve would care... sigh). Still I think Quake is challenging enough to be a great game, only more linear than HL2dm, but more balanced. It's my 2nd fave. :)
skaruts 6 months ago
1:45 that fuckin' hat kills me. all sparkles 'n shit xD
johnplayerspecial88 6 months ago
Did players always move that fast in Quake 3 Arena? I haven't touched the game in years, I don't quite remember it being so fast lol.
RunningWildVidya 6 months ago
@RunningWildVidya yes, you do that by 'strafejumping' and it's in Quake's game design from the start (Quake 1)
88Cortex 6 months ago
@88Cortex Well, strafejumping was a physics bug in Quake 1, but since everyone loved it so much, id said "sure, why not" and made it an 'official' movement trick.
ub3r2008 6 months ago
this video is so fucking GOOD!
sneddie 6 months ago
That is a lot to think about in the middle of a game, I just rush and shoot until somebody dies.
plijuh123 6 months ago
and then i thought that i should make a witty comment.´
and that's EXACTLY what happened.
Esubalol 7 months ago
now comapre this game with LoL its nothing quake is more skillful but i see esports is all about nuber (viewers)
c0ntrol1L 7 months ago
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why isn't there a new one of these for the latest of rapha's games ?? seriously, come on - get to it... like why are you not uploading it right now??
EVS2585 7 months ago
why isn't there a new one of these for the latest of rapha's games ?? seriously, come one - get to it... like why are you not uploading it right now??
EVS2585 7 months ago 2
chess with rocket launchers
eskimoechidna 7 months ago 153
@eskimoechidna Doesn't get more manly than that. :D
dinmamma333k 4 months ago
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so there is basically no fps action in this... just boring chess match... this game is FUCKING TERRIBLE. Go play a fun game like Blops plsease
Dryzenkov 7 months ago
@Dryzenkov God forbid having to think in an FPS game.
7335608 7 months ago
this is one awesome fucking video
dig6dog 7 months ago
good gamer. plays quake. very modest. i like him!
HamSupZhai 7 months ago 4
This is probably my favorite gaming-related video here in YouTube. I`ve already watched this four times in the two days since I`ve first seen it, which is amazing considering it`s almost 19 minutes. I never knew Quake III had this much strategic depth to be honest.
GlassOnion23 7 months ago 3
Rapha, Dr. Quake.
ValeV008 7 months ago
just curious, who's the asian kid sitting behind rapha?
sadface0 7 months ago
@sadface0 fan zhibo i think
fsimpro 7 months ago
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His voice sounds like he is a pedofile
necromancer263 8 months ago
32 people are Cooler fans. :)
skaruts 8 months ago
enjoyed the discussion alot! i love these vidoes
amangonecrazy 8 months ago
what headphones is he wearing at 1:23 ??
saurabhcoolchamp1 8 months ago
guys if u think this game is a bit too fast paced try Uberstrike. Fun gameplay, same controls, even strafing. Less maps, but more active forums and hilarious players.
PPmylife 8 months ago
Quake, CS 1.6 and Starcraft are the real games in their genres, rest are garbage for casuals
1985maryn 8 months ago
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ferretkids 6 months ago
how old is that matchup ?
guruleinii 8 months ago
I agree with howiejcee)
Proteya1 8 months ago
While I have not Played PC Quake (Played Quake 3 Arena on the Dreamcast), I love how this is broken down. I wouldn't mind playing this or Unreal Tournament again after seeing this high-class video, even if FPS isn't my strong point.
NetplayerD 8 months ago
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Looks like an old pc fps. No vehicles, no classes, no teamplay, unrealistic weapons and brainless run and gun. Modern console fps' are so much better than this - more immersive, tactical and playing them with the controller requires real skill. Believe me, consoles are the future of the fps gaming, I know what I'm talking about.
KhanFus1on 8 months ago
@KhanFus1on new games can be pretty unrealistic...
180sk8180 8 months ago
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SuperNovaGA 8 months ago
@KhanFus1on Too obvious man. If you're gunna troll, at least make it subtle.
TheKillershade 8 months ago
@KhanFus1on well obvioulsy you dont know what you are talking about cause q3matches in 2001/2002 on WCG were the most interessting fps games with a price of 250K for first place so could you show off a game that had so much success as q3a had? oh btw q3a was never about graphics it was all about the game itself (arenastyle, speed and so on ..)
Mastercluster 8 months ago
@KhanFus1on gtfo casual fag
kyleisreallycool 8 months ago
I'm a counter strike source player who has just started playing quake live. The last time I played a deathmatch game was quake 2. This video is amazing! A real eye opener to how complex and tactical this frantic game can be.
VUandChips 8 months ago
What map is this?
erwin005 8 months ago
Thanks for the tips rapha!
Player189sChannel 8 months ago
Quake+Unreal Tournament=Epic Games that set the standards of many shooters online such as Black Ops and TF2(remember the hat game)
RaymanandRazorbeard 8 months ago
Many good Quake player also play poker.. Now I know why :D
taubstumm 9 months ago
This vid was very interesting! Great job!
ExtremehamJkd 9 months ago
How does this inspire you to fucking play xbox?
zikamine 9 months ago 9
@zikamine yeah dude how the fuck
ColdfireNL 9 months ago