Okay people bitching about the automatic mustang. On a strip they are actually BETTER! Some 4.10's or 4.56's and an aggressive shift tune would have this auto killing most manuals. Shifting takes time, autos are nearly instantaneous and power is never lost. if you are shifting through 4 gears on the manual, and only 3 on the auto, the auto will win. simple.
can we get a driver mod for the z28 they can do better stock and I would like the mustang more if it were stick but good reaction time none the less. "proud 01 z28 owner"
Huh who would have thought, i mean youd figure a 4.6 would be stomped by a 5.7....... huh, strange.. Sure he got him in the end, but where was all that displacement in the 60?
@balexwogel thank you for saying that as a camaro owner it's a funny joke sayin no replacement for displacement but I've owned an evo and a civic both of which would have spanked my camaro but I have barely started modding it so we will see but I love the feeling of boost but my ls1 can make me forgetwhen that v8 cracks you get thrown back I love it
@balexwogel of course a small motor can make great numbers on 20 lbs of boost. check out a tt cobra with boost that high...makes 3 times what an evo does.
@balexwogel Yup you're right... I don't like that argument because its stupid, and frankly I like the 4.6 and 5.0 motor. It doesn't take very much to get a 99-04 GT up to par with a Z28 LS1, LT1 or beyond.
@balexwogel yeah with 30+ lbs of boost and two turbos. a twin turbo 03 cobra will throw up 700+ hp easily on a factory motor at half the bosot of those evos and hondas.
@Alegriaenquidam Dude the GT has 32 valves and the camaro has a 16 valve pushrod motor. Chevy flat out beats ford when it comes to motors and the camaro has 60 more cubes cuz its a real American muscle car
@Alegriaenquidam The 4.6 is pretty close to the same torque output of the 5.7. But the 5.7 has about 50 horsepower more, that will always win the longer the race goes on. And he pulled ahead by MULTIPLE car lengths in the end.
@Alegriaenquidam are you kidding? at that camera angle you can't see the camaro until its atleast a car length ahead. My money is still on the camaro at the 60.
Good running Stang bud! You cut a good light too. I have owned both stangs and Ls1's. The LS1 motor is a beast for bang for your buck straight out the factory.
BDthizzin- i think it would have to complete with a special addition camaro. the ss is mass produced. i always see people complain about the 5.7 vs 4.6. so beef up the suspension and put a super charger on the ss and then see which car is better. everyone know that chevy wants the corvette to be the top car also. so why doesnt the 500 go against the new ZR1 then?
13.7 with just full exhaust and auto wow, now you see why ford trys and detune engines by putting small pipes that sound good just give no real power good job
... 99 and up mustangs beat lt1 camaros and trans ams... unless there built.. 99 and up camaros beat mustangs... but with a little work the mustang can take one. same with camaro and back and forth. what do yo uexpect same car with basically another 1.1 liters of engine your gonna get different results unless chevys just retarded you fucking idiots
99-04 mustangs are neck and neck with LT1 camaros/trans ams. and you mean 98 and up camaros beat, well almost any year mustang gt. the 99-04 mustangs need at least full bolt-ons and cams or shot of nitrous to beat a ls1 camaro/trans am. I doubt there are very many stock ls1 camaros/trans ams out there though so the 99-04 mustangs need more than what i had stated. stock 6 speed ls1s put down anywhere from 300-320whp. stock mustangs put down around 240whp.
its seem like that because have not that big of diff between HP but the LT1 just over powers it with its torque. a 99-04 GT can stay side by side with an LT1 6 speed if the GT has a few boltons like exhaust, CAI, and chip.
i have driven a 2000 mustang gt with flowmasters and k&N filter. and i drove an lt1 and an Ls1. forget about all the tech bullshit. the gt was alot slower than the z28 and firebird formula i drove and thats all it is to it. a gt cant stand up to an lt1 let alone an ls1. and besides whats with all these chics drivin mustangs GTs? i wont insult the cobra but arent they spose to compete with corvettes?
supersnake and ZR1 is a very close race. due to the supersnake being sooo much heavier than the ZR1 the 120 HP diff is made up from low weight of the vette. but both or way overpriced and are not worth the money.
Foolish chevy boys. A Z28 will smoke a GT mustang but only because of the bigger CID in the camaro. Run your Z28 against a cobra and youll be seeing taillights. Try running a 5.0 camaro against a 5.0 stang and the mustang will win every time
the stang was lighter in the 3rd gens. and i hope your not talking about putting a Z28 against an 03-04 SVT because those are hand built. so its usless to compare an assembly line car to a hand built car. the mach1 match the Z28 very well and the 02 Firehawk's match the 03-04 cobras very well also. all the firehawks need were catback and and intake kit and it came down to a drivers race. come on dude cant we just say that both F-bodys and mustangs are badass.
I like camaros and stangs but what u are saying is so false it is not even funny. Sure who gives more hp the camaro but who uses there hp better the stang. Both cars look very nice now adays and my prediction if they keep the weight down the new 2011 5.0 stang well blow chevy out of the water. but that is just my opinion and i have no facts to back it up obviously im just guessing they well produce a better car and chevy cant gov. is payin the bills now
if the camaro can lose some weight it would an awsome motor vs motor battle like during the 3rd gens and end this stupid displacment vs Forced induction battle. IMO something such as a supercharger should be a drivers choice of weather or not thats how he wants to make power. putting out a V8 version of a car with a supercharger to compete with another car thats N/A just shows pure laziness. both ford and GM are guilty for that.
@SAtownZ28 The 03/04 cobras are not hand built, they're an assembly line car like everything else.
The firehawks? They didn't keep up.
Yea, it is a drivers choice, whether or not you want to buy a supercharged car.
That's like saying it's bad to sell a car with an LS3 in it because it's such a large displacement engine, shouldn't that be a drivers choice too then?
when i said firehawks kept up i didnt mean like right next to the car but like 1 to 1 1/2 cars behind. ths pretty good for a car with 80 less horsepower that doesnt have boost of the supercharger at top end. i can see what your saying about drivers choice but it would have been better if ford would have just gone up with displacement in the cobras let Saleen, Roush, & henessey take care of S/C cars. it just doesnt seem right to do that to a legendary car just so it can take out the f body.
LOL 1.5 cars behind isn't keeping up, that's losing, and 1.5 cars is how far back they were by 60. Firehawks weren't "keeping up" with a ~400 whp car (yes the 03/04's were underrated)
for the price diff & power diff of the 2. i would say thats keeping up. especially on how they take to mods better then the DOHC 4.6( of course the cobra just needs a pulley & tune & your at around 500HP but im talking about N/A) spend a grand on intake kit, catback, & computer chip & it could take a stock cobra if it has a good driver.
you have to rember that f-bodys were lighter & had a better aerodynamic design against the cobras very nice but not as good heavy brick design, the top of the line f-body could keep up next to the cobras with mild boltons(catback, intake kit, ignition upgrade, tune) wouldnt beat the cobras easily but could stay next to the most of the time. but you have to admit, a $29,000 340HP SS/Firehawk did very good against the 420HP SVT cobra that cost almost as much as a Base Vette at the time.
well seeing how most ppl cant drive as good a professionals it is smart to get a automatic.... i have a manuel but i dont make fun of ppl wit autos cause i have been beaten by my share of autos they get the job done everytime no mistakes but i think it is more fun to have a manuel.
haha did u just listen to what just came out of your mouth hahahahahaha...... you just named 3 parts in an engine and then said fast....thats like saying you think your fast with pistons pushrods and an oil pan haha your a fucking joke kid, u must not have your license yet
well that shows how little u know, my 4.6(that is down 1.1 Liters from you ls1 runs 12's all day and is my dd) is able to walk any LSWhat motor, its funny how your guys throw a bottle on your car and think its fast untill the pushrods are sent through the oil pan after youve hit your limiter 2 or 3 times
a 2010 GT500 KR Stock can only run 12.8 2002 camaro ss Stock GOES 12.7 THATS a 540 hp 510 tq rustang vs. A 325 hp 345tq pure American muscle car yours truely CHEVY CAMARO SS RACES CAR
your retarded there isnt even a 2010 kr yet. Only a gt500 and it runs 11.8 now 12.8. Few drivers have even broke 11.5 with the 2010 gt500. Next year the mustang will get a new 5.0 engine for its base car and a 6.2L for the 2011 gt500. Mustangs wil lalways rome the road.
turn your a/c on for an hour ride home and that motor might be runnin a little hot....there u go again with your car needs a s/c to do that, yes as we all know supercharging a motor is much more practical then throwing a huge cam and reworking the heads is....the car doesnt runn any hottter due to the intercooled set up so if i were to line up next to u with your big your big bad cam i garentee the ford is crossing the finsish line first
Dont know much about LS1s do you? Ive seen stock induction/ injector LS1s with little more LT hedders, cat and re-tune run 12s.
Do that with a sorry assed 240hp "shit chunk" like the 4.6l.
The ls1 is lighter and revs faster than the SOHC motor. Even the "Mach 1" 4.6l 32 valve does a best of 7000rpms. (equal to LS1 in that respect at least)
i have an idea buddy how bout u meet up with you and your buddy with your big cam and nitrous and we lay down some 1320's( thats a 1/4 mile just in case your dumb ass didnt know) and then we will see how big and bad your 11 sec LSWhat is....to bad my cobra can drive to the track with the A/C on and run 10.5's consistantly and then drive home with the A/c on and a car full of people...haha its practicality and speed 2 things your LS1 doesnt have
were not talking about a brand new 02 camaro SS here with the top of the line fluids and perfessional drivers....what were talkin about is me pulling up to u in my 04gt with a full exhaust and cai and beeting u....both cars with over 30,000 miles on them and bumps in the road what im trying to get at is in actuall day to day driving my 04gt can hang with your camaro if its almost stock....and at the same time my 04cobra with a kennebell and supporting mods can rape your almost stock camaro
I dont have a Camaro, i have a cam only WS6 that runs mid 11's... it will be getting a 100 shot this spring and then go 10's... the car in the video is my friends camaro, it is getting a big cam and nitrous this spring, so you wouldnt touch that either with your GT.... and im sure your driving a shitty 2v if you have a Cobra..so the fact that a Ls1 may have 30k miles and not be new is going to knock a second + off of its time? You have no videos of either car, you are prob a 16 year old kid.
are you a retard? Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords even tested a 2002 SS Camaro and got it to go 12.7 in the 1/4th... Hell even autos can do a low 13. My friend's 2000 Z28 stock with a K&N filter and an auto went 13.2 @ 107
actually i hear that from LS1 guys all the time "well IF the LS1 had forced induction like the far superior terminator cobras do it would win? well guess what LS1 guys it doesnt and thats why it gets smoked by 6 car lengths every time and the 2vGT which is a 281ci is dead even with any stock LS1, so STFU
if if if if thats always all i hear out of mustang people.. you motor DOESNT have 5.7 L, it is SLOW.. the 2V motor is a waste of time, speaking from experience.
ok guys i have an 04 gt manual full exhaust and a cold air intake and my buddy has a 98 z28 LS1 auto camaro all stock and we went from a 30 roll an i pulled on him by a car we then went from a 20 roll and we were dead even untill about 80 where we both let off then we went from a dig and he pulled on me by a car.....my point is that both cars have almost an equall amount of power so to say that the LS1 is far superior to that 4.6 is an overstatement by far
haha i had this exact race except with my 95 Z28 agains a 04 Mustang GT convertable and it went exactly the same way...he got a jump on me by a half a car at the beginning but by 3rd gear I waved at him as I flew by...Camaro's own end of discussion!
Ok ok i like all cars its all personal preference.. right right now thats out of the way... I have a 2000 camaro z28 m6 with just a muffler.. I raced a 05 mustang gt with diablo sport turner, cold air intake, n exhaust.. I beat em by half a car.. 5 years later mustangs still cant beat a chevy.... The vid of that race is 05 gt vs. 2000 camaro z28
Camaro's always pull up top. It annoys me. I raced a Camaro and was ahead until 80 then he pulled and by 115 he was a good 4 lengths ahead. Annoys me!! Mustangs suck on top end. But I love my car. :)
cool race.. check out my lt1 vs 4.6 video
Nater36 3 months ago
Okay people bitching about the automatic mustang. On a strip they are actually BETTER! Some 4.10's or 4.56's and an aggressive shift tune would have this auto killing most manuals. Shifting takes time, autos are nearly instantaneous and power is never lost. if you are shifting through 4 gears on the manual, and only 3 on the auto, the auto will win. simple.
burninrock24 3 months ago
I wonder why that STANG lost freaking has an Automatic what a frippin Noob
MoonNiko95 9 months ago
that camaro shoudl have won by way more, over 50 more hp and 30+tq, whats with the gts top speed of 139 to? i think ricers can hit that
TheNak88 10 months ago
jumped it. FORD SUCKS ASS
CHEVY MAN
miho1 1 year ago
Full exhaust and still get walked like that? N/A 2v are a waste of time, even cammed they still lose to M6 full exhaust LS1s (no offense)
thetravdawg 1 year ago
im actually quite impressed by that mustang
SySTeM4T1c 1 year ago
even for the longest time, then at the end, the ls1 pulls away...
Casey2315 1 year ago
@Casey2315 That's what an additional 50HP does for you, allows more power and RPM room at higher speeds.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
can we get a driver mod for the z28 they can do better stock and I would like the mustang more if it were stick but good reaction time none the less. "proud 01 z28 owner"
DcEvoIX 1 year ago
got him off the line....and almost down the track...that was almost a win for a good racer....love the auto trans too
hotstreetcar 1 year ago
a RD on the dash will tell you something when this race is over.
comanche119 1 year ago
Huh who would have thought, i mean youd figure a 4.6 would be stomped by a 5.7....... huh, strange.. Sure he got him in the end, but where was all that displacement in the 60?
Alegriaenquidam 1 year ago
displacement is a weak argument, look at what evos can do, or even hondas lol
balexwogel 1 year ago 5
@balexwogel AWD turbo vs RWD STREET TIRE N/A go to tjhe track kid.
QuickSSilver98 1 year ago
@balexwogel thank you for saying that as a camaro owner it's a funny joke sayin no replacement for displacement but I've owned an evo and a civic both of which would have spanked my camaro but I have barely started modding it so we will see but I love the feeling of boost but my ls1 can make me forgetwhen that v8 cracks you get thrown back I love it
DcEvoIX 1 year ago
@balexwogel of course a small motor can make great numbers on 20 lbs of boost. check out a tt cobra with boost that high...makes 3 times what an evo does.
suprbird 1 year ago
@balexwogel Yup you're right... I don't like that argument because its stupid, and frankly I like the 4.6 and 5.0 motor. It doesn't take very much to get a 99-04 GT up to par with a Z28 LS1, LT1 or beyond.
SuRihtanil 10 months ago
@balexwogel yeah with 30+ lbs of boost and two turbos. a twin turbo 03 cobra will throw up 700+ hp easily on a factory motor at half the bosot of those evos and hondas.
suprbird 8 months ago
@Alegriaenquidam modular vs pushrod HUH??? Driver vs driver you retard.
QuickSSilver98 1 year ago
@Alegriaenquidam Even better look at modular engine vs pushrod.
QuickSSilver98 1 year ago
@Alegriaenquidam Dude the GT has 32 valves and the camaro has a 16 valve pushrod motor. Chevy flat out beats ford when it comes to motors and the camaro has 60 more cubes cuz its a real American muscle car
ryanmtanner 1 year ago
@ryanmtanner umm gt's have the 16 valve 4.6
strifeish 1 year ago
@strifeish This one yeah but not like newer ones
ryanmtanner 1 year ago
@Alegriaenquidam The 4.6 is pretty close to the same torque output of the 5.7. But the 5.7 has about 50 horsepower more, that will always win the longer the race goes on. And he pulled ahead by MULTIPLE car lengths in the end.
Quatermain98526 11 months ago
@Alegriaenquidam it was wasted spinning tires and making him go slower.
cliffabrown 10 months ago
@Alegriaenquidam are you kidding? at that camera angle you can't see the camaro until its atleast a car length ahead. My money is still on the camaro at the 60.
drewglis 10 months ago
Good thing you had that radar detector. You coulda got pulled over for drag racing.
reverseoreo08 2 years ago
HAHAHA LOVE how the camaro just pulled away!!!! LOL
bkz08 2 years ago
its nvr made sense to me y in 4th generation stangs got heavier and had a smaller engine
757VAwrestler 2 years ago
Good running Stang bud! You cut a good light too. I have owned both stangs and Ls1's. The LS1 motor is a beast for bang for your buck straight out the factory.
Tappedurassout 2 years ago 9
Sorry buddy fords got a 6.2 boss engine
YEA BUDDY!!!
Fastlife432 2 years ago
BDthizzin- i think it would have to complete with a special addition camaro. the ss is mass produced. i always see people complain about the 5.7 vs 4.6. so beef up the suspension and put a super charger on the ss and then see which car is better. everyone know that chevy wants the corvette to be the top car also. so why doesnt the 500 go against the new ZR1 then?
irochoes87 2 years ago
13.7 with just full exhaust and auto wow, now you see why ford trys and detune engines by putting small pipes that sound good just give no real power good job
saleenxxx 2 years ago
Not a fair race 4.6 mustang 5.7 camaro
Fastlife432 2 years ago
why would it matter it still wouldnt be fair cuz the biggest v8 ford makes is a 5.4 anyways
sparkalanio 2 years ago
... 99 and up mustangs beat lt1 camaros and trans ams... unless there built.. 99 and up camaros beat mustangs... but with a little work the mustang can take one. same with camaro and back and forth. what do yo uexpect same car with basically another 1.1 liters of engine your gonna get different results unless chevys just retarded you fucking idiots
joshblacker1 2 years ago
99-04 mustangs are neck and neck with LT1 camaros/trans ams. and you mean 98 and up camaros beat, well almost any year mustang gt. the 99-04 mustangs need at least full bolt-ons and cams or shot of nitrous to beat a ls1 camaro/trans am. I doubt there are very many stock ls1 camaros/trans ams out there though so the 99-04 mustangs need more than what i had stated. stock 6 speed ls1s put down anywhere from 300-320whp. stock mustangs put down around 240whp.
trackx07 2 years ago
its seem like that because have not that big of diff between HP but the LT1 just over powers it with its torque. a 99-04 GT can stay side by side with an LT1 6 speed if the GT has a few boltons like exhaust, CAI, and chip.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
i have driven a 2000 mustang gt with flowmasters and k&N filter. and i drove an lt1 and an Ls1. forget about all the tech bullshit. the gt was alot slower than the z28 and firebird formula i drove and thats all it is to it. a gt cant stand up to an lt1 let alone an ls1. and besides whats with all these chics drivin mustangs GTs? i wont insult the cobra but arent they spose to compete with corvettes?
irochoes87 2 years ago 2
then what does a gt500 compete with?
BDthizzin 2 years ago
cam ls1's? lol
Prob Ls3 base vette would give a Gt500 a good run stock for stock... a Z06 or a ZR1 would be a rape for the schlebby
balexwogel 2 years ago
but then the super snake comes into play! lol
BDthizzin 2 years ago
supersnake and ZR1 is a very close race. due to the supersnake being sooo much heavier than the ZR1 the 120 HP diff is made up from low weight of the vette. but both or way overpriced and are not worth the money.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
or the Ford GT (GT40)
SN95Project 2 years ago
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felon520 2 years ago
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felon520 2 years ago
i agree with thebrian420 and americanmuscle4life1 you guys know wat your talkin about
gtmuscrat 2 years ago
Foolish chevy boys. A Z28 will smoke a GT mustang but only because of the bigger CID in the camaro. Run your Z28 against a cobra and youll be seeing taillights. Try running a 5.0 camaro against a 5.0 stang and the mustang will win every time
thebrian420 2 years ago
but the 305 is a pos lol
trackx07 2 years ago
That is the truth. It cant even compare to the Ford 302 for reliability and performance
thebrian420 2 years ago
the stang was lighter in the 3rd gens. and i hope your not talking about putting a Z28 against an 03-04 SVT because those are hand built. so its usless to compare an assembly line car to a hand built car. the mach1 match the Z28 very well and the 02 Firehawk's match the 03-04 cobras very well also. all the firehawks need were catback and and intake kit and it came down to a drivers race. come on dude cant we just say that both F-bodys and mustangs are badass.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
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wmoyer2006 2 years ago
camaro has more nuts at the end.
cuz it is more hp. nd a vette engine.
fucc u expect lol
09tattedup 2 years ago
You want power? Buy a Chevy.
You want wannabe muscle, buy a Stang. They are the "family friendly muscle car" nowadays. GTFO.
wmoyer2006 2 years ago
John Force castrol GTX mustang ......need i say more?
98MustangGT46L 2 years ago
There's nothing left on his car that is original. Nothing, not even the body. So don't give me that.
wmoyer2006 2 years ago
I like camaros and stangs but what u are saying is so false it is not even funny. Sure who gives more hp the camaro but who uses there hp better the stang. Both cars look very nice now adays and my prediction if they keep the weight down the new 2011 5.0 stang well blow chevy out of the water. but that is just my opinion and i have no facts to back it up obviously im just guessing they well produce a better car and chevy cant gov. is payin the bills now
Americanmuscle4life1 2 years ago
if the camaro can lose some weight it would an awsome motor vs motor battle like during the 3rd gens and end this stupid displacment vs Forced induction battle. IMO something such as a supercharger should be a drivers choice of weather or not thats how he wants to make power. putting out a V8 version of a car with a supercharger to compete with another car thats N/A just shows pure laziness. both ford and GM are guilty for that.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
@SAtownZ28 The 03/04 cobras are not hand built, they're an assembly line car like everything else.
The firehawks? They didn't keep up.
Yea, it is a drivers choice, whether or not you want to buy a supercharged car.
That's like saying it's bad to sell a car with an LS3 in it because it's such a large displacement engine, shouldn't that be a drivers choice too then?
Trollensteinowitz 2 years ago
when i said firehawks kept up i didnt mean like right next to the car but like 1 to 1 1/2 cars behind. ths pretty good for a car with 80 less horsepower that doesnt have boost of the supercharger at top end. i can see what your saying about drivers choice but it would have been better if ford would have just gone up with displacement in the cobras let Saleen, Roush, & henessey take care of S/C cars. it just doesnt seem right to do that to a legendary car just so it can take out the f body.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
@SAtownZ28
LOL 1.5 cars behind isn't keeping up, that's losing, and 1.5 cars is how far back they were by 60. Firehawks weren't "keeping up" with a ~400 whp car (yes the 03/04's were underrated)
Trollensteinowitz 2 years ago
for the price diff & power diff of the 2. i would say thats keeping up. especially on how they take to mods better then the DOHC 4.6( of course the cobra just needs a pulley & tune & your at around 500HP but im talking about N/A) spend a grand on intake kit, catback, & computer chip & it could take a stock cobra if it has a good driver.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
@SAtownZ28
LOL "for the price"
not this stupid ricer argument.
Um no, an intake, kit, and dyno tune will not put a firehawk at 390 whp, which it would need to keep up.
Trollensteinowitz 2 years ago
you have to rember that f-bodys were lighter & had a better aerodynamic design against the cobras very nice but not as good heavy brick design, the top of the line f-body could keep up next to the cobras with mild boltons(catback, intake kit, ignition upgrade, tune) wouldnt beat the cobras easily but could stay next to the most of the time. but you have to admit, a $29,000 340HP SS/Firehawk did very good against the 420HP SVT cobra that cost almost as much as a Base Vette at the time.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
automatic, what a flamer!
BDthizzin 2 years ago
well seeing how most ppl cant drive as good a professionals it is smart to get a automatic.... i have a manuel but i dont make fun of ppl wit autos cause i have been beaten by my share of autos they get the job done everytime no mistakes but i think it is more fun to have a manuel.
Americanmuscle4life1 2 years ago 2
seen it done before
built04Cobra 2 years ago
yes if u hit the rev limiter enough and bend a push rod it can shoot right through the oil pan. fuckin dumb ass
built04Cobra 2 years ago
so the pushrod would have to shoot through the lifter and probably the cam as well to reach the oil pan, must have a shit ton of velocity.
balexwogel 2 years ago 3
@balexwogel lol
SySTeM4T1c 1 year ago
haha u guys are seriosuly fuckin tools and no absolutely nothing about racing nor motors, its funny watching u try ans sound like u do
built04Cobra 2 years ago
your the retard that told me pushrods were going to go through my oil pan.............
balexwogel 2 years ago
nice stang man! nice run too.
i have a 98 z28.. never ran it at a track before though.
gotta love some of the typically retarted comments you got from people too.lol
NATEandtheMONKEY 2 years ago
thats only 05 06 07 08
Gokufan 2 years ago
hes talkin bout the camaro is 2000 and the gt is 2005. few years of trying to get ahead and ford is still behind chevy.
srmbuzz 2 years ago
haha did u just listen to what just came out of your mouth hahahahahaha...... you just named 3 parts in an engine and then said fast....thats like saying you think your fast with pistons pushrods and an oil pan haha your a fucking joke kid, u must not have your license yet
built04Cobra 2 years ago
dont be jealous that camaros are still faster than slowbras and ford has to put supechargers on their cars for them to be 'fast'
srmbuzz 2 years ago
well that shows how little u know, my 4.6(that is down 1.1 Liters from you ls1 runs 12's all day and is my dd) is able to walk any LSWhat motor, its funny how your guys throw a bottle on your car and think its fast untill the pushrods are sent through the oil pan after youve hit your limiter 2 or 3 times
built04Cobra 2 years ago
Why would the pushrods go through the oil pan? you sound like a retard
balexwogel 2 years ago
its funny when u think ur fast when u need a supercharger and duel over head cam and 4 valve per cyl to beat a pushrod engine SAD
veyronsstink 2 years ago
freakin dumb. jus stop tryin to sound like you and your fixed or repaired daily actually know what your talking about
srmbuzz 2 years ago
Im glad that camera was in the mustang. the camaros have such pretty tail-lights.
If the camera was in the camaro it would have to face backwards to see the mustang. *heh heh*
originaldriver 2 years ago
nice.... hahaha
so true
srmbuzz 2 years ago
at least the back seat is big nough to do u your mom
built04Cobra 3 years ago
a 2010 GT500 KR Stock can only run 12.8 2002 camaro ss Stock GOES 12.7 THATS a 540 hp 510 tq rustang vs. A 325 hp 345tq pure American muscle car yours truely CHEVY CAMARO SS RACES CAR
camarorswright 3 years ago
your retarded there isnt even a 2010 kr yet. Only a gt500 and it runs 11.8 now 12.8. Few drivers have even broke 11.5 with the 2010 gt500. Next year the mustang will get a new 5.0 engine for its base car and a 6.2L for the 2011 gt500. Mustangs wil lalways rome the road.
angeflr 2 years ago
turn your a/c on for an hour ride home and that motor might be runnin a little hot....there u go again with your car needs a s/c to do that, yes as we all know supercharging a motor is much more practical then throwing a huge cam and reworking the heads is....the car doesnt runn any hottter due to the intercooled set up so if i were to line up next to u with your big your big bad cam i garentee the ford is crossing the finsish line first
built04Cobra 3 years ago
Dont know much about LS1s do you? Ive seen stock induction/ injector LS1s with little more LT hedders, cat and re-tune run 12s.
Do that with a sorry assed 240hp "shit chunk" like the 4.6l.
The ls1 is lighter and revs faster than the SOHC motor. Even the "Mach 1" 4.6l 32 valve does a best of 7000rpms. (equal to LS1 in that respect at least)
originaldriver 2 years ago
i have an idea buddy how bout u meet up with you and your buddy with your big cam and nitrous and we lay down some 1320's( thats a 1/4 mile just in case your dumb ass didnt know) and then we will see how big and bad your 11 sec LSWhat is....to bad my cobra can drive to the track with the A/C on and run 10.5's consistantly and then drive home with the A/c on and a car full of people...haha its practicality and speed 2 things your LS1 doesnt have
built04Cobra 3 years ago
New York International raceway park, leicester NY april 18th...
my car runs 11's with a cam, you need a supercharger to do that... my car has AC as well as a back seat, so i really dont see what you are getting at?
balexwogel 3 years ago
dude your crazy ls1 walk on that cobra all day
camarorswright 3 years ago
were not talking about a brand new 02 camaro SS here with the top of the line fluids and perfessional drivers....what were talkin about is me pulling up to u in my 04gt with a full exhaust and cai and beeting u....both cars with over 30,000 miles on them and bumps in the road what im trying to get at is in actuall day to day driving my 04gt can hang with your camaro if its almost stock....and at the same time my 04cobra with a kennebell and supporting mods can rape your almost stock camaro
built04Cobra 3 years ago
I dont have a Camaro, i have a cam only WS6 that runs mid 11's... it will be getting a 100 shot this spring and then go 10's... the car in the video is my friends camaro, it is getting a big cam and nitrous this spring, so you wouldnt touch that either with your GT.... and im sure your driving a shitty 2v if you have a Cobra..so the fact that a Ls1 may have 30k miles and not be new is going to knock a second + off of its time? You have no videos of either car, you are prob a 16 year old kid.
balexwogel 3 years ago
04 cobras are shit
camarorswright 3 years ago
yea 12.9 in the 1/8 big guy, more like high 13's good driver low 14's normal driver...in the 1/4 the 2vgt and the LS1's are dead even every time
built04Cobra 3 years ago
are you a retard? Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords even tested a 2002 SS Camaro and got it to go 12.7 in the 1/4th... Hell even autos can do a low 13. My friend's 2000 Z28 stock with a K&N filter and an auto went 13.2 @ 107
balexwogel 3 years ago
actually i hear that from LS1 guys all the time "well IF the LS1 had forced induction like the far superior terminator cobras do it would win? well guess what LS1 guys it doesnt and thats why it gets smoked by 6 car lengths every time and the 2vGT which is a 281ci is dead even with any stock LS1, so STFU
built04Cobra 3 years ago
you need to lay off the crickety crack
My 2000 Ls1 ta went 12.9 @ 108 stock
2v's are garbage
balexwogel 3 years ago
yes! someone knows what they are talking about. man i have seen 03-04 cobras get their ass handed to them by stock 96 lt1 ss camaros
camarorswright 3 years ago
only little gurls play with ponies
cyclonejunior 3 years ago
just to put it out there what if my 4.6 had5.7l lol it whould spank any 5.7 factory n/a chevy
champer1030 3 years ago
if if if if thats always all i hear out of mustang people.. you motor DOESNT have 5.7 L, it is SLOW.. the 2V motor is a waste of time, speaking from experience.
balexwogel 3 years ago
just to put it out there
it still wouldnt win
lol
gdcod3player 3 years ago
ok guys i have an 04 gt manual full exhaust and a cold air intake and my buddy has a 98 z28 LS1 auto camaro all stock and we went from a 30 roll an i pulled on him by a car we then went from a 20 roll and we were dead even untill about 80 where we both let off then we went from a dig and he pulled on me by a car.....my point is that both cars have almost an equall amount of power so to say that the LS1 is far superior to that 4.6 is an overstatement by far
built04Cobra 3 years ago
ok put a fll exhaust and a cold air intake on the camaro and see what happens
gdcod3player 3 years ago
haha i had this exact race except with my 95 Z28 agains a 04 Mustang GT convertable and it went exactly the same way...he got a jump on me by a half a car at the beginning but by 3rd gear I waved at him as I flew by...Camaro's own end of discussion!
crazykskid 3 years ago
nice launch and r/t. Really goes to show much driving is involved in a good race despite what some want think.
f2f8mia 3 years ago 2
gt jumped!
capnmunch72 3 years ago
no actually he hit it perect. if he would have jumped then he would have red lighted.
blkmustang07 3 years ago 5
any Z28 or SS camaro will the shit out of ANY mustang ANYDAY!!!
strokesjunkie 3 years ago
SPANKED! YAY FOR LS1
brianharrison06 3 years ago 3
was his camaro a4 also?
napalm84 4 years ago
6sp
balexwogel 4 years ago
fuck
SpllassH 4 years ago
yeah.. i sold her, i bought a 2000 Ws6 TA with 420rwhp... so i will beat him at his own game this year ;-)
balexwogel 4 years ago
That was a very smart move :)
coldsteel327 4 years ago
That was a very smart move :)
coldsteel327 4 years ago
Ok ok i like all cars its all personal preference.. right right now thats out of the way... I have a 2000 camaro z28 m6 with just a muffler.. I raced a 05 mustang gt with diablo sport turner, cold air intake, n exhaust.. I beat em by half a car.. 5 years later mustangs still cant beat a chevy.... The vid of that race is 05 gt vs. 2000 camaro z28
loeken2fast4u 2 years ago
fuck
98MustangGT46L 4 years ago
Camaro's always pull up top. It annoys me. I raced a Camaro and was ahead until 80 then he pulled and by 115 he was a good 4 lengths ahead. Annoys me!! Mustangs suck on top end. But I love my car. :)
nevermissclancom 4 years ago
did you take your air silencer off it made my gt faster
saleenxxx 4 years ago
how much faster?
blkmustang07 3 years ago