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  • the president is supposed to be OUR servant !

  • Five minutes of my life I am never getting back. A tirade on an off the cuff comment by Anthony Kiedis?? Really?? Are you out of your mind? Paul Stanley said at a KISS show we're all "One nation under rock!" once at a KISS show. Is he preaching cessation from the union???

  • THIS IS WHAT THE COMMIE ATHEIST LEFT ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

    (in pledging to worship Obama).

  • @GameShowFan94 Why don't you look up Bill Clinton KKK and Obama Byrd.

    Also lookup Liberation Theology and Pope new financial order where you can hear the former Nazi youth Pope spew his communist liberation theology "SPREAD THE WEALTH" commie bullshit.

    Then look up "Obama spread the wealth."

  • @GameShowFan94 Jeremiah Wright follows the Satanic racist black nationalist Nazi-like Communist teaching of James Cone. Obama attended his church for over 20 years.

    Wright himself used to be in the Nation of Islam and is close friends with racist Satanist Louis Farrakhan who Wright's Church honored with an award and feature with Obama on the cover of their magazine.

    Obama left black liberation theology but is still into liberation theology which is still racist and Marxist and anti-semitic.

  • @GSFan It is widely known that he attended a racist Marxist church for 20 + years!!!

    Since then he just switched to other racist Marxist preachers and the press lets him get away with it.

    He's a racist Marxist Liberation theologist and a raging anti-semite.

    His black liberation theology church of 20 years followed the teaching of James Cone who wrote that any god who isn't for the goal of exterminating all white people is a murderer and they had better kill him.It's a form of Satanism.

  • The democrats are mostly communist now. 

  • Ron Paul is the second coming of Obama!

  • What the KKK terrorist nutjob left is attempting to do is some sort of reverse jihad reach around butt grab.

    The left is trying to bring THEOCRACY to America by any means whether through SHARIA LAW or OBAMA WORSHIP or the POPE'S MARXIST LIBERATION THEOLOGY.

    It's all part of the Pope's new world financial order.

    This is Satanism straight up!

  • I support everything I've said and you all should too.

  • Leftists are terrorists!

  • Satanic anti-semites Obama, the Pope and Bill KKK Clinton are all ONE!

  • This is why you need Jesus.

    So you don't fall for the racist KKK nazi Communist left's THEOCRATIC socialist shenanigans!

  • Aside from my other posts here, thanks Penn for speaking out.

  • Fuck atheists for supporting these fuckin LEFTIST Nazi theocratics with their anti-semitism and their Marxism and their Liberation THEOLOGY.

    Amen.

    God damn Obama's Amerika!

  • Fuck the Pope in his Nazi / Marxist Liberation theology "SPREAD THE WEALTH" commie asshole!

    And fuck Sarah Silverman with the Pope's pointy fucking hat!

  • Fuck the left's god Obama whom they pledge to be a servant to.

    Fuck servitude to this corrupt government.

    Fuck Bill Clinton right in his racist KKK asshole.

  • Pathetic fat fuck shit talking clown hurry up and have a stroke asshole. Then you will entertain me. haha.

  • @spaceshipearth999 You're exactly the kind of people that this video is talking about.

  • Where is the responsible news media? None of them have up videos documenting the stars' creepy pledge video or Obama zombies brainwashing kids in public school making them sing songs to Obama referring to him as Jesus,etc. Every one of them should have videos up just to document it. They're turning a blind eye. What is this nazi Germany here?

  • " I pledge" means: "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer!"

  • I pledge to watch every episode of penn and tellers bullshit.

  • watch?v=a61fPIgJfgs&feature=re­lated

    Obama of Borg

  • love the end

  • Constitutionally, the President is supposed to be a servant to the American people, not the other way around. To say that you're willing to be a servant to the President is to basically say, "I hereby give up all my rights as a free American Citizen & that I accept a Socialist Dictatorship in place of Democracy." It's bullshit that anyone pledge servitude to anyone, especially a President. If they had made a video like that for Bush (especially), everyone would be going crazy with protest.

  • Penn is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Truth is: celebrities serve themselves first, last, and always. The "I Pledge" video is just another bullshit moment in the "compassion" charade that is so popular in this ludicrous land of ours.  George Carlin would likely have a field day with it (somebody please resurrect that man).

  • obey.or the great obama will reign down fire and brimstone upon you.

  • Listening to Mickey Rourke's take on this was enlightening.

  • @McMahon4Prez : Where can I find what you're referring to?

  • @lilhotboy247 Oh lol.. No I was just saying that because this guy reminds me of Mickey Rourke for some reason

  • The president is a servant to us. We the people of the USA voted on him, we hired him, we're his boss, that's the point of being a president. That's so damn stupid and ignorant that someone would say that.

  • Well this Obama vidio should have been a military recrutement tool! I had to swear an oath to the contitution & to follow the orders of the president & for the country, ( everybody I know lives here). Furthermore we are in two wars with more on the way most likely - this notion of recrutement makes more sense. But this notion of pledging alegence to Obama just for the fuck of it is stupid & a waste of time & money but I guess that about sums up everything about this adminisration.

  • you are not alone on this.

    and all that other shit ....decent people should have been doing that anyway

    the whole video pissed me off that sheep like that have to be told to be nice and save water and to help old people....what did they not know to do all that before obama?

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  • Penn is 6'7" what a man.

  • yes it is a joke B husein is a joke ( bad joke)the joke is on Amerika

  • Penn, you are right on point. A servant.... FUCK!

    That's the problem with these kind of people.... thinking the President and congress are our masters. We beg for the scraps that they feel so kind to give us. They take an Oath of Office to serve the citizens of this country.

  • This shit is fucked up. We're not his servants. You only serve a feudal lord. We're not his vassals, his serfs, his peasants, his laborers, his slaves, his involuntary servants, his voluntary servants. He is OUR servant. We elected him to do a job and that's that. Every American is sovereign and the states that we make up are sovereign. Fuck this socialist pseudo-democratic republic and bring back our freedom!

  • I couldn't agree with you more about this video. I just saw it for the first time a few minutes ago and I thought it was great up until the point where they pledge "service" to Obama. Is he a president or a king? Government should be a servant to the people not the other way around.

  • I've always hated that video. But since it is now a year when the video was made, I think that "servant" shit is not only delusional but impossible. It's easy for those celebrities to make pledges to recycle, stop 21st century slavery, or try to get to know your neighbors...they have the time and money. They're not doctors or firemen, they're mostly elitist actors and musicians, they don't have to worry about just barely paying bills and losing their homes.

  • go watch the pledge video its great to see how government uses the celebrity worship of america to their advantage

  • Mr. Penn, I usually don't take what you say too seriously, and in all fairness, I don't watch you enough to know your mind; you have always struck me as a liberal, and if I am wrong, please accept my sincere apology. However, I agree 100% with this video you posted when you are talked about how the guy from RHCP said he pledges to serve Obama, and others said something similar. If I remember correctly, Obama took an oath to serve us when he was sworn into the office. It's just amazing.

  • @DigiKingdomGames Not a liberal at all actually. He is what they call a libertarian(dont know if I spelled it right or not). He is liberal on some issues and conservative on others. For example he doesnt agree with gun laws and thinks society has a right to guns. On the flip side he is against current immigration laws. I dont agree with all his views but think that he always puts an intelligent spin on them.

  • I remember when you were considered far left but the political spectrum is shifting fast, now your a libertarian or a moderate. Time is running out for the dark ones so by 2012 the hip thing will probably be A PLEDGE TO BE A SLAVE TO LUCIFER.

  • Go Penn...I love you...you are so contrary to what I believe (in some things - like Jesus is Lord of all...etc), but at the same time, you speak WHAT I BELIEVE!!!

    I really have a heart for you...keep speaking please! You have a voice...use it!!!

  • The President, whoever it may be, as well as all the people in the U.S. Government are PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are elected by the people to serve as representatives of the population which is (supposedly) SELF-GOVERNING. As citizens of the United States of America, we do NOT serve our ELECTED officials, rather it is our ELECTED officials who are put in their jobs by us to SERVE US.

  • What really makes this I pledge video even more messed up. These celebrities pledge to end slavery, but at the end of the video they all pledge to be a slave to Obama WTF?!?!

  • no one understands liberals so dont feel bad.

  • Hi Penn fans. Penn Says videos have been discontinued, so you won't be seeing any new content on here. You can check out our Profile on our Channel Page for more info. We'll still be checking in, so hope to keep chatting with you all! Thanks!

  • I pledge to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemy's foreign and domestic. :-)

  • It's not American at all to be a servant to the president and that means any president. Penn I have to say what a waste of 6 minutes of you just repeating yourself like a confused moron. There is nothing to explain. Politicians are supposed to be the servants to the people. My pledge is to never listen to another brainwashed Hollywood asshole as long as I live. Even when they have it right, they are still not worth my time. Penn is a perfect example! Don't waste your time on these fools!

  • Those people have it all backwards. The position of president is to be the greatest public servant to the nation. Penn makes a good argument, would all these Hollywood people made the same pledge to G.W. Bush? Certainly nothing in there about pledging to protect our constitutional rights. But then every last person in that video is a far cry from those who made a pledge to give us freedom, not with their empty words but their lives.

  • I pledge to Boycott those actors and actresses. I pledge to be nobody's servent because I have my own Free-Will and live in the land of the Free and because the government suppose Serve The People. I WILL NEVER PLEDGE TO OBAMA !!!!!!!

  • You might not read this, but I'll ask anyway. Is there any plans to still make the Bullshit of Bullshit episode for your show?

  • penn is right about this, i know alot of ppl like obama but they need to get real just a little bit

  • I pledge allgiance to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under GOD indivisible with LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL. Anything that contradicts that is worthy and deserving of a fight. EVEN BARRACK HUSSEIN OBONE- HEAD and his celebraty socialists. Get ready. Its comin to a head like a pimple on your ass. watch and see.

  • This shows how un-educated the country is.

    Each person, who is employed at the White House, or who is a person chosen to represent some aspect of the Presidential service. "Serves at the Pleasure of the President". Its a formal pledge, used for hundreds of years. It deals not with the twist that modern culture puts on it, but with the idea that, "I will do what I can to serve the President and who he serves (the people"

  • People tend to forget that the basis of the term "Public Service" is that each elected official is a "Servant to the People". These are anachronistic terms, but proper.

    It bothers me when people try and take things to mean the worst, when they mean the best.

  • OKAY this is part 2.. PENN: :)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ....positive energy flows out... then back in..etc.. vibrations... whatever.. But.. if you are taking a very critical look at it (I love your mind!) I do hear you and understand where you're at in your thinking, can't say it didn't cross my mind as well. Have a beautiful day.

  • have to post in parts.. part 1 just posted :) and now PART 2.

    =================== but I love Demi and I do understand the english language and the context in which things are said/meant in many cases. So.. I'm sure when they said.. I will be a servant.. those who said it were not saying they would be a slave to.... but humbled themselves to be a servant of... in order to bring more good to the world

  • @ClearlySymbolic but one of them said they would be a servant to President Obama ....

    Please explain 'that one' to me...

  • Ok Penn.. you were very redundant. re: saying I will be of service to obama? Will you please....Review the video and see.. where it says.. Demi says... I pledge to HELP FREE 1 MILLION slaves .. i think w/in a year...and others pledge to END slavery.. right??? but then... turn around and pledges to be a servant to our president.. that would have been a good point to make.. that oxy moron there.. but I love Demi and I do understand the

  • Vote the theocrats out in November.

    Put them on their UFO's and send them on their merry way.

  • This guy is awesome! He's really honest. He didn't know much about Obama, but he saw right through that propaganda video. He's totally right. The president serves the people.

  • Just reading a few of these comments i must say.. Damn there are some stupid ass people in the U.S. and this is coming from an American..

  • PENN ARE YOU HIGH? its not what you are saying but the hair tossing and hand waving...just asking thanx...ps the last netflix movie i watched was your bullshit serious with teller...some good some not so...but still enjoyed anyway...

  • @barbaralavelle According to this, the answer is no: watch?v=xbR9L0DR7oQ

  • @pennsays

    DO YOU STILL HAVE RECORD LABEL...

    half japanese etc...if so please flow a link

    my way...thanx...

  • @barbaralavelle He did, but they haven't published anything since 1989.

  • C ultural Marxism

    L iberation Theology

    U FO's

    E vil Hollywood (cult like pledge)

    S atanism (cult of personality,dear leader worship)

    Vote the theocrats out in November.

    The government is not God.

    Obama is not Jesus.(as black liebration theology believes)

    Send the Farrakhan-O-crats / Bernie Madoff-O-crats packing in November.

  • Just saw this and yeah, Damn! The President is supposed to be our civil servant in chief. It's really scary language. I'm not saying he's Hitler or anything like that, but I have a good idea that there was stuff like this in Germany in the 30's.

  • You are right - AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC - and must always remain as such. God save the Republic!!

  • Our country was founded as a Republic, anyone remember that ? A democracy is the government telling the ppl what to do and how to do it.

    A republic has "the ppl" telling the government what to do and how to do it

    So what do you want to be ? I choose REPUBLIC !! "our" government starts enough wars and has us paying enough taxes we need to take back OUR POWER !!

  • man i saw that video only recently. i must have been in a hole for the past year... but anyways thats ridiculous. there is nothing american about that. the city year is even scarier!! were walking right into Communism. or facism. all i know is that were going the wrong way for sure.

  • What is this, great britian or the ussr. we do not plege to any one person.

  • @AmericanPowerBase Ha ha, zing. That's not used enough!

  • Racist?Do you want to hear about racist. I am a white male. I went to the mall where it is mostly ran by Black or Asian people.

    No Service for the white male. The black,Brown and Yellow get's the attention even though the white male was standing in the store for ten plus minutes.

    Are we not all the same?

    This all came to be after a black man takes the chair. I don't care what color you are. Just do the right thing.

    We are all going to be the Sheep of 2010.

  • @ChemTrailsPA NO, I will not be a sheep in 2010 or ever and I will practice my active liberty and keep calling all rascists on their double standards, I have been in your shoes, most black people are under the impression that rascim pertains to whites only, this is and will be their undoing if they don't wise the up. Don't give up hope man, there are more people that abhor this liberal hype than believe it, that's a fact! We just gotta wake the stupid ones up. Arrogance is worse than stupidity!

  • you idiot, Obama is NOT a socialist.. he is VERY far from it.. what you don't realize because you are too blind to see (perhaps because you are racists or uneducated) is that Obama is a fucking puppet for corporate interest.. that should have been overwhelmingly obvious when he removed the public option from his healthcare plan only after speaking with health insurance lobbyist in private.. pull the wool from over your eyes and stop being such a fucking capitalist cheerleader!

  • Obama's only chance to get reelected is to slip the "public" option in while lying about it simultaneously.

    You are a retard for disrespecting the precise reason you own a computer and can type your stupidity to this website.

    You Socialist "Cheerleader"!

    If you didn't have CApitalists getting rich and giving you a job( assuming you have one), there would be no chance for you to do most of the things you enjoy doing...

  • I have provided an abundance of evidence and reason as to why I believe socialism and anarchy are beneficial.. you are merely restating an ignorant opinion without evidence.. FYI I am part of that ever growing population of non working adults who cant find work because of increased competition in this failing economy. this problem will continue to get worse because people like you continue to champion a system that oppresses you and all of us intellectually, creatively and morally.

  • Your "reason" is defective. Anarchy is no government, it has no recognition of human rights, therefore could not be beneficial enough to outweigh the need to protect individuals from tyranny of any powerful segment of society. Socialism is the tyranny of the Majority and inevitably leads to outright Communism and dictatorship, as it has done historically.

    The American experiment , as flawed as you'd have us believe that it is, does less to oppress than it does to lift up people from poverty.

  • My reason is NOT defective; its your understanding. I never said I was anti-government, anti-structure or any those things. I merely said I was anti-capitalist and anti-hierarchy which is the definition of anarchy.. (notice those prefixes and suffixes..) I cant be held responsible because you are too stupid to understand the distinctions between anomie and anarchy, communism and socialism and I really dont feel like explaining it.. if you want learn something go read a fucking book..

  • You talk about blacklisting and the constitution in the same sentence? You do really sound like a fool and still no valid legitimation of capitalism. Hobbes spoke out against revolutions as bloody and unproductive; he actually justified tyranny in the form of some powerful head of state, the leviathan. Have you actually read Hobbes? Of course not because your too stupid to understand it. If you did, then you would see how my position actually would eliminate tyranny while Hobbes facilitates it.

  • @rey9883

    Listen King,

    I have a degree in Sociology from SUNY Stony Brook, so ... yes, I have read Hobbes, and by simply citing a quote, which refered to the "Natural State of Man" doesn't mean I endorse his entire philosophy. Though he was brilliant, as were the rest of the English and Scottish Moralists who influnced the Founders. Edmund Burke for example... brilliant man... had some Anarchistic views.

  • @rey9883

    But there is no practical difference between anomie and anarchy, or between Socialism and Communism for that matter except in your theoretical wishful thinking. By the way, we tried it before in the US.... The Founders saw PROOF in their own lifetime through the Articles of Confederacy that a State with minimal , almost Anarchistic government would certainly fail.

  • @rey9883 But they believed, and I think were vindicated in their conviction that a LIMITED government, which protected the NATURAL RIGHTS of the People as individuals would work better than any other form of government in History. Not to say it isn't flawed, but for all your criticism of Capitalist corruption, the United States has been the most successful form of goverment ever devised .

  • Blacklisting people was hyperbole, but if you want to speak seriously about how the people who really wish to overthrow the Constitution are supposed to be treated, how bout bringing back good ole Joe Mcarthy? !!!

    He was a Democrat originally btw. And whine all you want, he was vindicated by history. Communists now run the White House and have the Presidents quite large ears. Heck, the ONE is a dyed in the wool Socialist/Communist ala Frank Marshall Davis himself.

  • I have been jump through a bunch of these videos today and for the most part the comments come from level headed thinkers. Your comments however are always filled with hate. I guess i point this out in the hopes you better monitor your outbursts in the future.

    P.S. If you want to maintain a dialog with these good people maybe you shouldn't invalidate your own point of view by throwing words around racist and uneducated.

  • Definitions of servant:

    People Really need to look this up:

    a person working in the service of another (especially in the household)

    handmaid: in a subordinate position;

    Someone who serves another by working for their benefit and obeying their commands. Thus almost all slaves are also servants, since their owner requires their service and has the authority to obtain it.

  • Me, a bitch? Never! I have not told any lies; i've simply stated the obvious.. whether you idiots choose to recognize it is up to you.. and still no one has explained to me why capitalism is so ideal..? I guess i'll keep waiting for that response because you dumbasses are too intellectually constricted to understand social dynamics. stop riding on Bernanke's dick and try to see the bigger picture!

  • They were elected to SERVE US! Not the other way around.

  • BHO is not the first president to encourage our citizens to volunteer their time to help the less fortunate. He is the first to promote being a servant.

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

  • This is why Obama is compared (and rightly so) to Hitler.

    Ashotn Cutcher and Demi Moore are really Nazi sympathizers!

  • Heil Obama!?!

    ARE WE CRAZY?

    WTF tattoo everyone's wrists with ID too.

    Sieg Heil too? How stupid are you?

  • Penn is right. If Conservatives had a video had made a video, encouraging them to become 'servants of Bush or even Reagan, they would be publically repreminded at the very extreme least.

    Yet, they have no problem elevating Obama to God-like status and demand that we 'serve' him.

  • @Trance1972 This whole concept is so anti conservative to begin with. The president is supposed to be a servant to us, not the other way around.

  • @Trance1972 right,we must serve obama.he is the first black man to be president.he must be a god.

  • yea, i liked the video right up until that very moment. who woulda' thunk it? demi-moore wants to submit to the power of obama??? i actually like the fact that they're trying to influence people toward helping their immediate communities by volunteering their time to causes that are important to them. that's a great sentiment! but, seriously, you fucked it up demi-moore.

  • i just gave it some time to sink in, and i think that you're being a little irrational in criticizing this commercial. i think that the overall message from their statements in "being a servant to obama" and "being a servant to humanity" is really just to say that obama is a symbol of being a humanitarian. pretty shitty way of doing it by telling us to be "servants", however.

    yes, massah! i go help the po' for you, massah!

    "someone dock that chink a day's pay for sleeping on the job..."

  • Come on Penn, stop being kind to your liberal friends and just say it. "Demi Moore and the rest of the Hollywood tools are sheep and mindless automatons. Now was that so hard?

  • @archemedes314

    Yeah this exactly. Videos "pledging to be servants" are further proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • Right on Penn!

  • When i think of independance in america i think of independance for myself personally as well. This is appalling. To be a servant of anybody (without getting paid for it) is slavery.

  • @fieldman07 it is the very definition of slavery.

  • its good to hear ya voice again brother!

  • Obama is a fucking insult.

  • A cult of personality arises when a country's leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships.

    So put the fucking bong down and wake the fuck up to the rising Nazism coming from the Demo-KKK-rat party.

  • last i checked, the president is a servant to us.

  • I love it, he seems to be super qualifying his statement then just comes out and says what we all feel. A servant to the president?? WTF???

  • You are not alone Penn! After I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that video I shuttered at how unamerican it was. It scares the hell out of me that they want me to pledge myself to my neighbor. Echos of communism and facism are obvious. Pledges are designed to bind and obligate a person even against their own will. That is not freedom. I will not forsake my freewill for my neighbor. Give me liberty or give me death.

  • I like President Obama, and I think he is a smart, ambitious and eloquent man, but to "pledge to be a servant" to him goes to far for me.

    Henrik

  • Hello Penn:  What the pledge should be to is the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. THESE documents are self evident and are above all reproach. Written to guide: like the north star all who hold sacred in the belief that no man is above any other in the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

  • I hit the wrong thumb.... my bad. It was SUPPOSED to be a thumbs up!!!

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  • Rofl, the craziness is just starting, thats just one example. The future don't look very bright, but the chaos might be entertaining to watch. :)

  • I watched that video RIGHT BEFORE this and was like "Oh this is cool, yeah" and like Penn, at the very end I couldn't help but say "what the hell?" to the "I Pledge to be a servant to our president" That sounds horrible. It doesn't sound good at all. Who in their right mind would pledge that for any amount of money? Honestly. Thank you Penn. This is a much needed video.

  • The reason that Penn doesn't get it is because he is not a Pakled. Most progressives are actually Pakleds, and their ideas don't make sense to us. If you don't know why they are Pakleds, just listen to them talk to each other. They tell each other how smart and strong they are.

  • Penn...Thank you, it had to be said

  • Our president should pledge to be a servant to us.

  • I like Penn and Teller----but in the movie "Jesus Camp" a bunch of kids were practically worshipping a cardboard cutout of George W Bush---and that was pretty appalling to me.

  • but wait.. isn't Obama, like all preceding presidents, a servant to capitalist interest? so one who serves the servant of a master ultimately serves the master. in a sense, it seems, this is merely a pledge to sever capitalist elites or otherwise embrace a sort of subordination in the supposed "land of the free" where "all men are created equal".

  • America is a land of equal OPPORTUNITY, not complete equality. Everyone starts out with the same chances as everyone eles in America. It just depends on how hard they work and how they use their resources to better their education. Of course this is becoming harder to live by because of government interference.

  • that is completely ridiculous, you cant have equal opportunity unless you have equal access to resources. not everyone can go to college, not everyone can travel abroad and open new opportunities for themselves.. this is an age old, extremely flawed assumption that has absolutely no basis in reality. I would concede that for a few people, working hard does yield great benefit but for most, it only serves capitalists. My grandmother worked her entire life and doesn't even own a decent car.

  • Capitalism in not perfect. I will admit that, but it is the best thing that we could ever come up with. Socialism has not worked at all. Sorry bud, but until God comes back nothing in society will ever be perfect.

  • what?!? where is you proof for that wild claim.. if it were not for the socialist elements in our own society, capitalism would fail tremendously. could you imagine pure Lassez Faire as Ayn Rand proposed.. that shit would be pure chaos and anomie. there would be no public education, no 911 dispatch service, no public libraries, no fire department except for those who could afford it. keep in mind, if your house is ever burning down; calling 911 is engaging in socialism.

  • I think you meant to point out flaws in communism. it's a common mistake but understand there is a distinction. you see, socialism is a mechanism for equality but the assumption is that it cannot be sustained alone because there are always greedy people who desire to dominate over others. this is where it shifts to communism However, if there was law forbidding a sovereign head such as a president, and people were more involved in localized government then this would not be a problem..

  • rey9883: Public services such as libraries, schools, law enforcement and emergency services are essential for any society.. These are SERVICES that we pay for with our tax dollars! They are not "free".. Socialism uses tax dollars from person A to pay for services/programs used by persons B, C and D..Your argument is idiotic.

  • I never said they were free jackass, i said they were socialist so my argument isn't idiotic; you're just an idiot..

  • the world needs ditch diggers too.

  • i never said there was no place for ditch diggers.. but there would definitely be a restructuring of society in which case, occupations such as ditch digging may not appear as unattractive as a capitalism influenced mind may propose.

  • capialism is good!

    Bill Gates, Steve Jobs couldnt have brought you the computer that you are trolling on now, if it werent for capitalism.

  • Actually contrary to this misconceived belief, the computer is the result of decades of human cooperation. the internet is an invention of the concerted efforts of the state, a social union; and there are example of computational devices, from which the modern computer conceived, that are older than the very concept of capitalism itself. hence, the computer would have likely eventually been idealized without the advent of the irrelevant notion of capitalism.

  • by the way, open source programing was the first method of programing. the engineers who invented the concept of the graphical user interface were essentially ripped off by the capitalists Jobs and Gates prior to the establishment of current copy rights we now have on digital media. So, your misinformed opinion that capitalism is somehow good is not in any way buttressed by the success of the computer.

  • fine! way to wikipedia!

    still, the very computer you are on right now is there because some clever capitalist was greedy enough to want to make money.

    ...and whats wrong with that?

    I assume you have a job too. You greedy capitalist!

  • i didn't Wiki anything.. i study history of interest as well in academia; but wikipedia is a fine example of human cooperation and i donate to them sometimes. As for my Macbook; indeed it was made by a corporation but as i said, some similar form of technology would have inevitably come about without any capitalistic influence. as for your comment about employment, you do realize that socialism doesn't entail everyone being unemployed.. you should read up on the Spanish Syndicalists movement.

  • @rey9883

    Please give me an example of some new technology that has come from a socialist country. Tell me about advancements in health care that come from socialists countries. Give me an example of quality goods that come from socialists countries.

    Capitalism promotes competition and that provides us with innovation.

  • Part of the problem with that is that there are no true socialist governments. Socialist aspects are commonly combined with other methods of governance. But there is one thing common of all countries that regard human rights to some substantial degree: they all have socialist aspects. if you look at the Western European nations they have fire dept, public libraries, etc, in other countries you have free education through the collegiate level, etc. Even the democratic process is socialist.

  • how about this.. instead of everyone arguing with my about why socialism is bad why dont you explain to me the benefits of Laissez Faire capitalisn. I've already given a multitude of reasons why socialism is ideal.. lets redesignate the burden of proof upon you people trying to convince me that capitalism is so great.. how is that so? as far as i can tell, we are facing overpopulation, global warming, deforestation and overfishing, just to name a few of the tragedies associated with capitalism.

  • @rey9883

    ghahaahahhahahahhahaha

    ahahah. You are so misinformed.

  • @heathg2012 please enlighten me as to how i'm misinformed..

  • I am NOT a fan of Penn, but I absolutely LOVED and AGREE with what he just said. It is, "Un-American."

  • The president's job IS to serve the people. But America isn't what it used to be. Most elected officials are nothing more than whores to those who give the largest contribution. Obama might be no different. But one thing is certain: without the help of vast numbers of the citizenry, nothing will change. Hell, it may require outright rebellion for there to be any meaningful change. All officials are elected to serve the people. But in modern America, it's obvious that doesn't mean jack shit.

  • I would ague that most so-called 'elected' officials aren't even elected anymore.. we now live in a kleptocratic oligarchy.. there is no more democacy in the U.S. only the illusion.

  • How sad that these extremely highly "stars" pledge to be servants to the POTUS who is nothing more than a sock puppet for the Marxist left. George Soros bought the presidency for this usuper and any one with common sense can see that hussein is in way over his head in all matters pertaining to the defense of the Constitution and America. He needs to be banished from office and from this country. Hugo or Castro will gladly take him and his wife in. Go hussein go!

  • The President is elected to serve the people, not the other way around.

  • It's the President's job to serve the people, not the other way around. The cult of Obama has whipped up a religious-like aura around his political agenda, which is highly offensive and abhorrent to people, who believe in the right to disagree and the right to Constitutional fidelity from our elected representatives. Bush did the same thing with the War on Terror and Al Gore did it with Global Warming and it's wrong.

  • Thanks for at least having a memory that is longer than 10 months.

  • i think the problem comes in where even if they are going to be a servant to his agenda, and not him, then that takes out the chance to take an objective look at his policies. I support certain issues, not obama, and not any actual politician. many issues i agree with obama on, and i support him in getting those things done. never would i be his, or his agenda's, servant

  • THANK YOU! I finally agree with you on something--if it was pledging to George Bush or anyone else, there would be a gigantic uproar--and there is definitely something un-American about it.

  • I don't get upset anymore when I see ignorant people making statements like "servant to our president", because, just like our president, they are human beings who make mistakes and they, like our president, don't have all the answers.

  • right on Penn, Right on. It IS un-American to make a pledge to any man, even the President. It is American to pledge to America however. "I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands..." not to the president. Like you said this is not about president Obama but about the misguided pledge these Hollywooders are making.

  • Penn, you are WAY too kind to those pledging mindless morons! There's no confusion to be had about it! They say "I pledge to serve Obama" which translates into "I pledge to close my eyes and ears to all of his screw-ups"

    Here's a far FAR superior pledge to the stupid one Hollywood cooked up:

    "I pledge eternal enmity against any tyranny over the mind of men."

    -Thomas Jefferson

  • Exactly! you hit the nail on the head we should be a servant to the country not to our leader otherwise it's too much like Hitler.

  • The President is supposed to work for us NOT the people serving the President--- -what kind of backwards crap are they trying to feed us now.

  • Triumph of the Will had a heavy hand in inspiring The Pledge, for certain. Penn, thanks for voicing an opinion that (almost) always reflects my own.

  • At the end of the video, the people pledging are part of Obama's face. The creators of this carefully edited video mean exactly what they say, "Pledge to Obama". Leni Riefenstahl would be very proud...very scary fascist imagery.

  • 1) George Clinton is a fucking Junky.

    2) Obama speaks well. . .hasn't done shit.

    3) Penn is an Evangelical Atheist who makes his living being a sarcastic asshole. . .but I'm afraid that I Do agree with him on some issues.

    4) Penn hits this nail squarely on the head.

  • wow all ya all need to go back to school! sexxxychar were you there when hiltler was a libertard? oh guess not guess he hated liberals and you'd be char broiled. i think you are missing the point entirely! educate yourself please you do not know that of which you speak.

  • alyahansen--You might want to do a little investigating of your own with regard to solemn oaths taken by followers of various 20th century fascist madmen. Fascism assumes many guises, not just right or left wing. In fact, serious academics have a hard time nailing it down; but one thing is true, and that fascists are intolerant and totalitarian.

    They can be of any stripe.

  • alyahansen--Quick reference for ya (from Wikipedia...addl. sources can be found there as well).

    The oath taken by civil servants in Nazi Germany:

    "I swear: I will be faithful and obedient to Adolf Hitler, leader of the German state and people, to observe the law, and to conscientiously fulfil my official duties, so help me God."

    When a cult of personality is combined with incredible power, bad things can happen. Let's be careful and observant about the words we SAY and our actions that follow.

  • obama is a dumbass..

    the stimuless is bad..

  • Well. Although it hard to tell with some people because Hollywood is such a blurr of libtards. I used to think low of you, Penn, because of your Bush bashing and such. But with your observation and acknowledgement of how delusional devoting yourself as a servant to the president, when it should be solely the other way around, has really given me hope. Hope for the future, a future of change. More imprtantly, hope for Hollywood.

  • Yeah they want to END slavery and then make us slaves to the prez. Yep Hitler started off this same way. Remember??

  • Yeah, I'm with Penn. They take an oath, but Obama & the feds still have trouble obeying the constitution, that perty much makes them criminals. Here, the DOI is my pledge:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." I'm all for CHANGE!!!

  • I PLEDGE TO STAND AGAINEST oBAAma, his minions and the sheep who worship oBAAAma- the DANGEROUS, FOOLISH, WOULD-BE TYRANT!

    RESIST THE TYRANNY!

    SUPPORT/DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!

  • I'm so sick of this excuse.

    If Obama really wanted to clean up the mess Bush left, he would be taking the proper steps to do so, not going in completely the wrong direction.

  • nobody should be a servant to ANY president. The government is supposed to (was designed to) serve the people. And the people are supposed to hold the government accountable. That is the way this nation was set up to be. when YOU start serving the president instead of the other way around, you are no longer living in a democracy.

  • Isn't the president supposed to be a servant to the people?