Re: BIG RED PUSH BUTTION.....or is it ultimately green

[davidavidable]

the bug...

[kburtsev]

Thanks a lot!

Once I was sitting at my office, somewhere deep in thoughts and I had a pen in my hand and a piece of paper on a table. Sometimes when I think I draw some figures.This time for some reason I wrote: "It would be easier if I wouldn't be born". I read what I wrote and thought "oh yes, it would be easier. No problems". Than I thought "but for whom it would be easier, if I wouldn't be born? For me?". There was a pause and at this time I realize that there is no "me". It doesn't exists.

[LPF767]

Sorry, one other thing is that humans seem to have forgotten that THEY SIGNED UP FOR THIS. In spirit form THEY WANTED this experience of the human form, human emotions, human torment and joy, they signed up for this. I personally believe that we are all here on Earth right now because we desired to be here AND because Creator/Source/God needs us here to be a part of these next crazy insane few year. It's getting out of control fast in order to usher in THE NEW on Earth. Sorry for the 2nd post.

[LPF767]

Wow, you hit the mark right ON with this video. I've noticed that humans seem to think that...if they could just end this current life body they are in, their suffering would stop, when in fact...how do they know that? What's really telling them it would stop? If we exist in parrell worlds/timelines, or go on forever (who knows) then wouldn't they just resume on another time line where they left off at? Your thoughts in this video had my head shaking YES the whole way through. Thank you again.

[bbbleaver]

'life is suffering' and the idea of the samsaric sea is a response to our way of life as a culture that is inherently the most difficult and laborious way ever contrived. no indigenous culture ever found or still existing on earth thought/think life was/is suffering. there was no concept of life being a painful event to be endured and somehow transcended... only people in our culture are feeling like crap about existing and what to escape all of this. nirvana means annihilation (dt suzuki).

[filmos1]

hehe, you remenber me myself when i speak to my friend of different kind of thinging, universal consciousness etc...

[BlackoutDOTcom]

I have run through this gamut of thoughts as well but we have to remember that there are PLENTY of people who lived very full and happy lives who were not Buddhists. Did they have suffering, sure? But at the end of their life would they say "life IS suffering"? No. Many have said life was a wonderful adventure and that were at peace with their death coming (based on whatever belief they had, many have said this) so I think the Buddha mindset can be an 'attachment' to trying to beat suffering,

[BlackoutDOTcom]

which of itself can cause MORE suffering because now you have adopted a belief system that tells you to disconnect and kill the ego, have no goals, just be... but is the ego really evil? What if we advance to the point where better balance is achieved and we remember past incarnations more or extend to newer incarnations (which we dream up) where suffering greatly decreases. I know I have casused a lot of my own suffering being a heavy obseber and thinker such as yourself

[redliterocket4]

You make good points. I haven't listened to this video in a long time and I have no idea what I said in it. But certainly Buddhism is not the only path to a fulfilled life/death.

I don't think Buddhism is so much about killing the ego. It is more about learning to understand how the ego works. At the end of the day, trying to kill something which was never a self-abiding thing to begin with is quite silly.

[SaveSome4Me]

question. or whats your opinion rather. when i was younger i had to have surgery because i ruptured my spleen. because of sever internal bleeding there was a good chance i may have not lived through it. anyway, they put me under anestetic and i awoke 12 hours later. while i was out, there were no thoughts, no dreams, no nothing. at least that i was aware of. but if i never woke up, same thing, i wouldnt have been aware. so wouldnt that be what death is like. nothingness?? what do you think

[redliterocket4]

I suppose it is something like going to sleep, yeah. Doesn't mean you or something like you won't wake up again one day.

[ProxySpam]

A more stable form then life? Yes there is. It is a life form created by life itself with its intelligence in order to become indestructible. Love is the strongest emotion we know defined through an organic material system. Love is a system. It can be reproduced with nanomaterials and have the exact same result in a robot. It is a pleasant system but is it the best? There are unknown systems 1000x - 10^100 x stronger. Only that is more stable then life itself: an entity capable of feeling that.

[ProxySpam]

You are the way you are because the lipids suffer in presence of water the same suffering as yours. If you put 1g of oil in the middle of salted water...do you think it will press the button? It can...but the equilibrium would always favor life no matter how many of you press the buttons because life is the most stable form known.

[ProxySpam]

If ``you`` don`t exist nothing exists. Human kind and life in general is a very advanced state of matter trying to reach a more stable form, thermodynamically speaking. But since life is an extremely stable form of atom structure it is also very fragile because what surrounds it is less stable and tends to destabilize it.

[otonanoC]

Soren Kierkegaard

[BlazzingSun]

You still exsist. If you cut your finger off is it lost to the universe?

Energenecly can anything be seperated from exsistence? Instead of pushing the button, I think we should switch the channel.

We are nature,

Be the Energy that Gives Form...

[jeorozco73]

Defining yourself "atheist" is still clinging to a perception/label, and it's a definition based on a sense of "self". You "know" there is "awareness", but why do you have to have a name for it? why cant you just be awareness/knowing?? (because you attach that "knowing" element to a sense of "self). end the identification, and right there is awakening.

[jeorozco73]

The Buddha never said: Life is suffering.. the Buddha said "THERE IS SUFFERING".. "DUKKHASACCA".. b.t.w, dukkha, means stress or unsatisfaction, not suffering, althought it could be included in dukkha. Unfortunately, dukkha got translated as "suffering" by early english translators.

[jeorozco73]

"Is there a way to become unattached?", yes, stop clinging to the existence of a "self". That's all, the moment people stop calling their bodies, feelings, perceptions, mental formations, and consciousness as "I","me","mind" then dukkha(suffering) ends right there in the present moment.

[jeorozco73]

sorry, i meant "mine" instead of "mind"

[bigreub78]

fuck the hater below.... rehab is for quitters.

keep pushing the limit, Naruto....it's worth it...it's the only thing that matters.

go save a hoe or two. do some ninja shit. time to exercise the right brain, left hand now.

[jusguyz]

Matt, I take Effexor. When I don't the world inverts. The cliché of the glass half empty or half full for me depends on 300mg of a chemical. The eternal question is not answerable and as we mature we stop thinking of it. It dosen't matter. We as many in the world do, not really know suffering. Matthew--- get out and play some basketball ;-)

[jusguyz]

pardon the typo- we here in the West do not understand suffering as many people in other parts of the world do... now go play some basketball :-)

PS: Why commit suicide when we are going to die anyway??

[SixMillionDollarAcid]

'I think I've already pushed the button'

Eeeexcellent...

[shrunkensimon]

Whilst i agree with Buddhism on many fronts, i do not agree with "life is suffering", which i believe is a great example of a half truth, and why ALL relgions are distortions of the sacred science.

Suffering only arises when one forgets the fundamental truth.. that we are all one, that we are god experiencing itself, and that we are not seperate isolated packets of consciousness.

[jeorozco73]

good, dont agree with "life is suffering" because that is the WRONG english translation of the actual teaching in Pali. The teaching is "Dukkhasacca" = "truth of dukkha", basically in life THERE IS dukkha(stress, unsatisfaction).

[jeorozco73]

Because of that wrong translation, people perceive buddhism as pessimitic, but the teachings are anything but pessimistic. The teaching lead people to the highest form of happiness in this present life and is always available in the present moment for you to see it, if you are willing to do the work.

[danbit5]

lit red rock is a star to me sorry matt.

[HaleyMary]

I liked when you said you can't have something new without destroying something old. It makes sense because when you look at supernovas without those stars exploding, the stardust could never recycle itself to become something else. Great video. Provokes a lot of thought.

[normonics]

How strong is your attachment to youtube?

[normonics]

So if life is suffering, and suffering is attachment, isn't a life with no attachment an oxymoron? Check out the email i sent you.

[iurak6868]

Glad to see you again, in another of your interesting videos... :)

[cosmicpilgrim]

Excellent video! I agree with most of what you said. One problem: when you say, "every organism must feed on other organisms..." That's true for carnivores, not for all organisms. In Buddhism, only Tibetan Buddhists eat meat. The harsh environment takes choice away. If we have choices, the point is to use them. And one sane choice is to give up attachments if possible. Great video....thanks.

[pinkishfloyd]

"every organism must feed on other organisms..."

this is true unless you eat rocks or something everything you eat comes from some organism.

[redliterocket4]

Plants are alive, too!

[cosmicpilgrim]

Oh PLEASE!!!! You two are NOT Buddhists....Your Janists....Don't eat broccoli, you will destroy life...PLEASE...Come and live in the real world and do as little damage as you can when you do...But I somehow doubt that is possible...I'm beginning to feel like Gary...What are you two on about any way??????????????????

[cosmicpilgrim]

Life is destroyed when farmers plough ground or when food is cooked and insects are caught in fire. Consequently, Jainism advocates avoidance of activities which are seen to have a more direct connection to killing, including all farming and eating of food (meat and root vegetables) which result in indirect destruction of animal and plant life. Some Jain monks are known to practice self termination by starving themselves.

[cosmicpilgrim]

Life is destroyed when farmers plough ground or when food is cooked and insects are caught in fire. Consequently, Jainism advocates avoidance of activities which are seen to have a more direct connection to killing, including all farming and eating of food (meat and root vegetables) which result in indirect destruction of animal and plant life. Some Jain monks are known to practice self termination by starving themselves.

[peanarchist]

"There is no scence in clinging onto any thing, becaus there was never anything to cling onto with" alan Watts.

"There is , and never was any problem, because the universe is complete".

[jbfoyle]

According to the scholars, the Buddha, when he was alive, had a prescription that works for everyone, it's called vipassana. Nowadays that technique is very efficient but it seems that the exact methodology has been lost. One of the critical aapects was not so much not being attached to worldly things but not being attached to the nirvana itself, which is the hardest thing to do.

[jbfoyle]

The closest to something that works for everyone, that I know of today (according to how its worked so far), is the ILP from the Integral institute.

[dfurano]

But without this incessant trial life would not exist. Without tribulation organisms would not evolve. Life is a growing culmination of complexity and diversity in a field of disordering randomness. Suffering is attatchment to the physical world of inevitable and steady deterioration. To end suffering is to let go of this attachment and live in the current extant life.

[dfurano]

Entropy is the tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity. Yet life's manifestations are generally considered to be organization, metabolism, growth, irritability, adaptation, and reproduction. Life struggles through time toward more complextiy and novelty while it is the tendency of closed systems to fall further into a state of disorder and low energy.

[docrufus]

Gary has said as much in his own way methinks- enlightened/suffering or not- we're all on the same path- nicely done.

[iconoclastic23]

Pardon its morbidness but I have a hypothetical question. What if you fire the gun and only manage to lodge a bullet in your brain but not cause complete somatic death. Now you're a braindead vegetable. What happens to your consciousness at that point? Has it already floated away to wherever disembodied consciousnesses go, or does it hang out in the body unable to express itself just waiting for somatic death?

[zezt]

Boodhism (how you Americans pronounce it ;-) is for me a typical patriarchal ideology. Ie., of escaping 'suffering' and ultimately birth and death. INSTEAD of understanding that its absurd to imagine you can not have suffering with out not having joy also!

the REALITY is... is that we DO get 'attached' C'est la vie

[blackcrow6667]

Suicide of the "ego" may well be the only way out, but to a point. Life, will never truly escape the pain and harsh reality nature allows and drives, each and every day.

[danbit5]

i luv the minus ...

[TheFlocklessShepherd]

I appreciated your honesty.I knew your answer before you said it,and wondered if you would be true.And you were:)

Question:If you have no attachments,will that mean you care less?

[TRAGlCHERO]

You had me thinking of Stoic philosophy, in stoicism, suffering is similar to 'Dukkha' in Buddhism, as a form of emotional bondage, which is inherently reactionary, to our circumstances, expectations or internal impulses. To be free of suffering again parallels Buddhism's concept of 'Samudaya', one should cultivate a virtuous disposition and meditate. Epictetus would say that control consists in our power "to veto any impulse by failing to assent it". Either way, I agree, there is no way out.

[danbit5]

there is a god. dont read hebrew. but dinosaurs ant metioned n the old testament read agan. lo. they are mentoned but not called dnosaurs.m gfted spottng ths.christans will be rght defendng dinosaur was not wrote in the book.

i knda beleve in a god lt red rock even though dont show it.

the smple fact near made me wet my pants one day grab an apple take a pear what size are these tems hand size lol yes a cocunut needs 2 hands lol

[boylebongo]

Maybe psyches are being shattered but i don't think life is suffering inherently. Life is beauty. Our lives are great. We'll make it. We will accomplish things in time. We'll make meaning out of something even though there is no universal meaning to anything. I think you're great and once you find something to do you'll do great and everything will work out fine.

[danbit5]

i wll tell you a tale one night.i almost ded in the enlightenment experence i let my mind run riot. i was gong to hell in my thought process to see how far i could believe me. im happy to be stll here. ii  pressed the button. know your dilema. almost died doing that.its your thought process. be prepared to vomit.

btw never sold a car needs added

[danbit5]

you ever wonder if your father never met your brother? you wonder more if you have brothers ssters. keep it lit mat;.be good

no more cht plz you rock

[jonathanreddish]

well said. thank you

[creole60]

I gave you five stars, because I predict Gary is going to tear your analogy apart. I'm curious about Buddhism though. Recommend any good intro. books.

[redliterocket4]

"Essays in Zen Buddhism" by D.T. Suzuki

[iurak6868]

"good question, good answer", you can find it on ARES

[iurak6868]

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