Thank You For Posting, America does the T4 programme all the time in their 'mental institutions'. Explaining why the exact definition of 'torture' is avoided in America, as it doesn't want to ruin the fun for the socially acceptable religions whom are addicted to genocide, a.k.a., 'the will o' God', or 'Auto de Fe'. Just ask Roky Erickson, or Lou Reed about the T4 programme of torture, and human experimentation in 'Mental institutions'.
in the street at 2:47 lives a musician from ireland ( i think that it was ireland^^) Raymond is his name i think <.< and the big complex is the Vitos Hadamar - I work there^^
I study history in Germany and I wrote a long essay about "euthanasia" in the Third Reich. You got something wrong: T4 started in Poland (you can check it. It's in the book of Ernst Klee (= best book about "Euthanasia").
That is incorrect. The Nazis did not occupy Poland until September 1939 - several months after the first child had been killed - Gerhardt Ramschein (or similar surname).
I have no doubt that the Nazis did murder mental patients in Polish hospitals though in the September campaign.
The children were not killed in T4. It's victim were only adults. Children were killed in another programme which started earlier than T4. They also killed disabled adults before that, but not in T4. T4 started officially on September 1st 1939 (it actually began some weeks later).
Irving spoke about Hadamar at his trial and you may be able to get his testimony on it. In fact he described it in much the same way as other historians: the selective social Darwinian killing of 'useless eaters', the carbon monoxide gas chambers etc. I believe his problem with the Cyanide gas chambers is that to safely remove the bodies you would have to be wearing protective suits and breathing aparatus, which many testified the Germans were not. This would indeed be a scientific question.
Btw, Peter Thomas Heydrich, whose cabaret poster you see displayed in the vid, was Reinhard Heydrich's nephew; RH was also his godfather. PT Heydrich's father and Reinhard's brother, Franz, went from Nazi to joining the Resistance. When he was found out by the Gestapo he was forced to commit suicide in 1944.
There is a book about PT Heydrich called 'Ich war der Kronprinz von Heydrich' ('I was the crown price of Heydrich'), released after his death.
Abortion is of course something else!!!!!!!??????
herulonna 11 months ago
Euthanasia most be aloud also to people who are sick from this world and humanity ugliness better.
stamstuff 1 year ago
@stamstuff There is a major difference between voluntary euthanasia and murder. The Nazis practiced the latter.
alanheath 1 year ago
@stamstuff engrish prease
dalektaliban 1 year ago
@dalektaliban wery vell
stamstuff 1 year ago
Thank You For Posting, America does the T4 programme all the time in their 'mental institutions'. Explaining why the exact definition of 'torture' is avoided in America, as it doesn't want to ruin the fun for the socially acceptable religions whom are addicted to genocide, a.k.a., 'the will o' God', or 'Auto de Fe'. Just ask Roky Erickson, or Lou Reed about the T4 programme of torture, and human experimentation in 'Mental institutions'.
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12Zwolf 2 years ago
@GWShawFujikawa
Yes thats the Truth!I come from Hadamar and i`ve seen this gas chamber in real
HSVB04 2 years ago
Besides German chocolate cake t4 euthanasia was the one good thing the nazis did.
MultiSnooty 2 years ago
in the street at 2:47 lives a musician from ireland ( i think that it was ireland^^) Raymond is his name i think <.< and the big complex is the Vitos Hadamar - I work there^^
GWShawFujikawa 2 years ago
I study history in Germany and I wrote a long essay about "euthanasia" in the Third Reich. You got something wrong: T4 started in Poland (you can check it. It's in the book of Ernst Klee (= best book about "Euthanasia").
salto0084 2 years ago
That is incorrect. The Nazis did not occupy Poland until September 1939 - several months after the first child had been killed - Gerhardt Ramschein (or similar surname).
I have no doubt that the Nazis did murder mental patients in Polish hospitals though in the September campaign.
alanheath 2 years ago
The children were not killed in T4. It's victim were only adults. Children were killed in another programme which started earlier than T4. They also killed disabled adults before that, but not in T4. T4 started officially on September 1st 1939 (it actually began some weeks later).
salto0084 2 years ago
T4 was dated 1 September 1939 with Hitler's signature but killing of child mental patients had already begun.
alanheath 2 years ago
That's true, but the killing of the disabled children was not a part of T4. It was a separate programme.
salto0084 2 years ago
Mr Irving will be quick to divorce this from the Holocaust - it is part of the same time line.
behblc 2 years ago 9
Irving spoke about Hadamar at his trial and you may be able to get his testimony on it. In fact he described it in much the same way as other historians: the selective social Darwinian killing of 'useless eaters', the carbon monoxide gas chambers etc. I believe his problem with the Cyanide gas chambers is that to safely remove the bodies you would have to be wearing protective suits and breathing aparatus, which many testified the Germans were not. This would indeed be a scientific question.
guydecervens 2 years ago
@guydecervens I don't think the safety of the Sonderkommando who removed bodies from the gas chamber was a priority for the Nazis.
alanheath 1 year ago
If these walls could talk..............
Btw, Peter Thomas Heydrich, whose cabaret poster you see displayed in the vid, was Reinhard Heydrich's nephew; RH was also his godfather. PT Heydrich's father and Reinhard's brother, Franz, went from Nazi to joining the Resistance. When he was found out by the Gestapo he was forced to commit suicide in 1944.
There is a book about PT Heydrich called 'Ich war der Kronprinz von Heydrich' ('I was the crown price of Heydrich'), released after his death.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago 15
Thank you very much for pointing this out. The name meant something to me but I was not sure where I knew it from!
alanheath 2 years ago
Again interesting video.
KNIhokki 2 years ago 12