thanks for the clear explanation! i don't do aikido myself but i'd really like to incorporate these type of moves in my karate one day, or would that be a bad idea? it just seems like you can easily add punches or kneeshots to these type of movements
This is awesome. 0:19 is like a wing chun posture. Then it turns to something like Bagua Lion in our lineage with the piercing and severing. At 00:44, its almost like our snake posture. Funny how they link like slang from other languages.
See the only thing you're forgetting with this, you haven't eliminated his most sturdy weapon. I think at 0:37, you've got the best instance of when this would happen. What are you forgetting? His head. If he so much as JERKED his head to the side, you're now looking at a broken nose, possibly a concussion. Is it gonna work every time? No. Is it a good riposte to this technique? I think it is. I'm sure you people got things to say about this, and yeah. Akido is fucking nuts. Is it perfect? Nah.
I like how all of you get on here bashing him....Train MMA, if you think it's shit then go somewhere else. No body comes on to your MMA videos and says buy a gun. The fact is, MMA is a sport, he's not teaching a sport. If Aikido was shit, Kano would have never of sent his top students to train with O'Sensei. Incase you don't know who Kano is, he is the founder of Judo. You know, where Brazilian Jiu Jitsu came from. O'Sensei was a proven warrior on the field of battle in the Russo-Japanese War.
So not sure how it could be ineffective in a "true fight" when it has been used in combat for many years. I love MMA just as much as the next guy, but be real about it. It's a sport in a ring with rules. The street is something completely different. You're not going to be fighting a guy 1-on-1, you're gonna be fighting him and his buddies. So you better not end up on the ground. Or you may be lucky enough to get into it with someone w/ a gun or knife and all the MMA in the world won't save you.
@24zirkle Brazilian Jiu Jiu Jitsu didn't come from Judo, it came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and that comes from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu (the common source for Judo, Jiu Jitsu and Aikido).
That martial art was split in multiple arts for a lot of reasons, the most objective being: Jigoro Kano designed a competition-safe art, interesting to watch and without lethal moves; Jiu Jitsu is mostly the ground fight and aikido uses the traditional techniques (effective if you're holding a sword or knife).
That kind of techniques are useless in a true fight.
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To have learn a little bit a aikido, then moves to other MA, and then duel some Aikido master, I know that this techniques aren't applicable in those situations for example. All you defense will just be overflowed. Then I won't even spoke about confirmed martial artist.
Nice technique. The thing that irritates is aikidokas always train such techniques with another ones but it's obvious they are not good enough at punching or kicking at all. It'll be very useful if they practice this against fellow boxers or other striking MA practitioners increasing the speed gradually. Usually they don't do this so if they run onto a trained, hitting opponent how will they catch his punch or hook if they trained the technique mainly against slow hitters?
some may say it dont work in a real fight..it works....ninjutsu is about the same moves i like adding other stuff to my learning..this is very good stuff sir...tx george
i enjoyed watching you use big circles. i shall try to incorporate this in my studies. good cutting and diversion of force. let your opponent do what he wants to do and use that energy in your favor.
@daveshn Nope. The principle of Aikido is interception. You aren't waiting for extension to complete before you enter, you anticipate and move at the very beginning of the attack vector - something most other martial artists don't understand. As a result, you are in a position to "cut" your opponent, and he has no option but to go in the direction you mandate.
The second application is a better one, but the first is ok for demo purposes. People like to see people rolling on the floor. lol. In reality, you're most likely NOT going to be able to pull of that move entirely, but you'll do it IF YOU GRAB AND TRIP the person being thrown, like in Judo. Sweeps work.
Honest question: In wing chun there is the idea of using a forward intent to stick to the opponent's body in such a way that makes them (the opponent) feel constant pressure even in cases where the WC guy is stepping back. When you Aikido practitioners perform your techniques do you also use the same idea or forward intent to stick to the person in order to prevent them from withdrawing their hand, leg, body, etc...?
@constablekohler Yes, it's works in a similar way. I practise both Wing Chun and Aikido. They complement each other quite well as they are both internal arts and share similar principles.
@aikitahmas right right. i subscribed to your channel, but yeah, in watching some of your other videos I can see shapes similar to the bong & tan from WC in aikido. Very interesting. Good stuff. Ignore the haters!
I think so. Aikido uses similar principles as WC. Interception, balance, forward projection of Ki. Shut enemies down before they get to optimal position, they win the race via relative positioning.
Face Punch defense... sure the punch will come with this speed lol.. even a 5 years old kid would intercept it.. Ohh yes of course but thats just showing the applications.. but unfortunatly when then the students practise it they do it also with the same slow speed lol..
Yes some aikido joint locks.. can work on average punks.. or smaller and untrained opponents... same like with wing chun u can pretty much disable and knock down a lil wannabe gang from a near by high school lol.. But face this if a Huge Mean TANK built guy who seems to be strong like a Bull and violent who knows maybe even trained!!!u think u could pull a arm bar on him or joint lock..or slap him in the face and he woudl just simply go down lol???Im not sure!
Again.. Aikido , wing chun , Hapkido , TKD.. all have so much comments under they videos and big debates.. and the reason is.. they realy Have alot of time to explain why and where.. who and what works.. and this way or that way.. but they most of them all failed to show us real events when they had the upper hand , end of the story!!!
of course Muscles.. and being strong is not always the most important factor.. but it still remains a factor.. look at these Aikido guys.. most of them are sloppy and have a big bear bellys lol!!!Ur not douing cardio during ur AIKIDO classes!!!Ive done Aikido when teenager for 3 years..about.. but then later on when I trained other stuff.. I was shocked.. how big difference it was... I barely survived my first MMA class...and I was like wow these guys train like this EVERY CLASS.. so humm
LOL n LOL again at sammy7848 comment ahahaha... AIKIDO made for warr!!! Jesus Christ guys have u ever realy tried other styles or been in a tournament or sparred with ur friends in anyway???Just go try some Boxing or MMA.. and you will see how different just they training ways are.. believe me u gonna puke blood afther the first class!!!
@jin54363 Martial art means military art. It is about winning. Nothing else. All the spiritual mumbo jumbo is from Asian culture and pseudo religion. It is a marketing gimmick in the US. Martial arts are about violence. That IS what they are for.
i see you know nothing about martial arts, the spiritual stuff is not religious at all, it is philosofal, and has nothing about arrogance, or winning, what matters is how good opponent are you, how respectful, not how arrogant.
martial arts and desportive combats are 2 different things.
Hapkido lol.. ahaha its about the same shit.. just its Korean!!! Ohh yes but HAPKIDO is much more violent lol.. please!!! yeah a few goog joint locks thats about it...even TKD is more effective then Aikido!!!give me a break..
lol hey for the guy who told me.. that they teach AIKIDO to like...FBI and what ever LOL please... ahahaha.. Judo even if younger much more superior then aikido will ever be...
the purpose of aikido isn't about debilitating the other person. it's about control over yourself and removing the point object in front of you so that you can take care of the next. External arts like the majority that fall under the MMA umbrella raise up bamboo. You grow up quick and by the time you're thirty you're spent. Things like aikido, chen tai chi, and so on, grow oak. It may take you seven years to reach a fighting potential but that root lasts even into old age.
If you really want to know anything, GO to a freaking class instead of reading all the clowns who talk about all the arts they have studied from one class and consider themselves masters. Aikido is the good stuff. I have a black belt in Hapkido, but still wish I could find time to attend more Aikido classes.
so I suggest from my experiance.. for anyone who wanna do martial arts.. to go for the good old stuff.. such as Judo , Brazilian Jujistu . Wrestling , Boxing , Muay Thai , Kick boxing..they are much easier to find and ofthen more affordable.. and at least u realy Master somthing solid...instead of trying to get all these killer dangerous moves from Ninjas and Kung fu. or lame ass wannabe CQC combat methods that never been used and wont be lol!!!
Traditional martial arts.. spend so much time.. on teaching u the philosophy.. and the forms.. and whats the meaning.. they basicaly sell u this I WILL BE A SAMOURAI.. or I will be A NINJA fantacy.. or a Kung fu Master.. lol!!!You will learn good things but.. eventualy you will feel nothing comming out of it in return...so what if u know 300 kung fu form by heart? have u ever even tryed them?
Ive trained in when kid in TKD..shotokan..Judo.. then later on teenager got into aikido.. then wing chun.. then kun tao silat.. then some Pekiti tersia Kali...systhema..Muay thai..Doce pares.. xing yi chuan.. choy lee fut..I been around!!!Sure you learn good things.. and u can make it work but.. traditional martial arts lack..just streight simple fighting...+ they always do applications only like 10-15 mins.. at the end of the class..so its hella long journey to learn some!
aikido especialy takes the cake for..noneresisting two on two application training.. In other styles they also have this.. but somehow the other styles have better chances to make it work then aikido!!!such as silta , wing chun.. kung fu.. and such..but even them.. they need to realy make sure they can apply they stuff in different situations and against a more violent and alive opponent!!
Zack yeah Philosophy is great.. but the way they train u wont be even able to defend yourself properly when u will face a situation...and besides its common sence u dont need to kill or tottaly bruttaly wack someone..if he goes down or u manage to trow him on the ground and he dont seem as a imediate danger anymore.. u can just walk away.. no need to stump his head in lol!!!
I agree.. this wont work.. Ive done many styles of martial arts and Ive done Aikido to when I was teenager!!!they have a few good joint locks but nothing more.. I agree with Mojothemigo guy!!! all the way!
12 years ago, i learned not to cross your arms. 3 years of that, and i've learned the massive results that can occur if you do. Now that i do MMA, i DEFINITELY would NEVER cross my arms. Why wouldn't you just duck and move behind him? If the ultimate goal of this throw is to CONTROL the other person and throw him, why not just duck, take a single, and do a fireman throw? MUCH easier, smoother, and reliable. Just my thoughts. :) Good luck and happy training!
@zacktillery The goal of Aikido is not to move around your opponent very much. Instead you confrot him, deflect his strikes and turn their power around so he is at a disadvantage. Without power or force, you defeat your enemy with smooth and soft movements. That's the philosophy behind Aikido. And as always, there is no ultimate solution. How you engage is entirely up to you. I myself don't like to fight force with more force.
@thepsi24 It really depends on what you're aiming to do. If he's coming to kill me, i'm going to full force. A fireman works more often, and does more damage than this throw/toss thing he's showing. This might work if he's special ed, but not in any other instance, or any that i can find.
@zacktillery I get your point, and I think you got one there, but again I have to disagree, well kind of. Aikido's philosophy says that you should not harm your enemy, regardless of the situation your're in. If someone's coming to kill me, I don't use Aikido but still it is possible to do so. Aikido, like each martial art is a tool, like knife. How you use it depends on you.
But I wouldn't, crossing arms can be applied realistically, its just how you're trained, we cross arms yet it can be used in real life as MMA can, maybe you lost your patience with aikido?
@sammy7848 The risks are too great. Even an ameature can pull an easy arm triangle when you do, and move in to take you down...and if he's got friends..you get curb stomped. No point in crossing your arms.
Again, i agree but put yourself in the situation, you go to attack some random guy would you really expect him to know and do all these fancy moves on you? I don't think either of us woukd. And you say about his friends, yes, you could take down one guy and his mates will come over but thats the same with any art whether it be aikido, karate, or MMA, everyone else watching might get involved.
Very interesting if incredibley good block and control. I do see a problem with the flip though. Throws can hurt and hurt real bad, but they can also just piss somebody off. It looks like it would set up the face in perfect alignment to have it smashed in with a knee. I am not flaming or being mean at all. I've seen people thrown hard in a fight on a hard floor and get back up and it is a real concern. It might slow an attacker down, but there is a high chance it doesn't disable the attacker
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES WOH! Thats pretty big talk there. I'm not saying you are wrong either. Have you ever fought, and I mean an actual fight (not spar) with an Aikido practitioner? I watched your one video, so you do have knowledge of the topic. I am in Krav Maga myself, just a newb whitebelt. I'm just a little bit surprised an instructor of another school talking hard smack.
@mojothemigo because if you take defensive training seriously, and you train other people to protect themselves from lethal force you take on a certain obligation to your students to train in a realistic manner. If someone wants to train in Aikido that is there business, but critism is going to happen. There is a reason that there is everything from skepticism to flat out bafoonery.
@INbredMonarchy I have been in plenty considering I bounced for 5 years and and a combat vet and work in an armed profession. Plenty of grappling works. From jujutsu to BJJ and wrestling. Aikido is a clownshoe dance for spiritual hippies that want a false sense of security. Do you think a boxer is gonna punch like the Aikidoist trains against. Maybe you should look into what real violence looks like as opposed to a Seagal movie.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I've seen plenty of violence. Not everyone is a boxer and considering aikido is from Japan, it was most likely developed with karate in mind. I do not practice aikido, but I can see some usefulness in it. Furthermore this is only a short glimpse of what they are teaching and if you are telling the truth about your credentials, then I'm sure you've learned by now that you don't have to be a professional fighter to defend yourself against average people. Peace.
@INbredMonarchy There is no such thing as "average people" when it comes to defensive tactics. That assumption can and has gotten uncounted numbers of people killed. Karate was Okinawa's answer to combating armed, armored Samurai. Aikido was developed from the philosophical aspects of Kenjutsu and jujutsu applications. It has very little use in actual dynamic hand to hand combat. It it worked it would be capitalized in the ring. All this too lethal for comp stuff is nonsense.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Everyone is mortal, therefore everyone is average. If nothing was "too lethal for competition" then there would be no rules in competition. Groin shots, biting, eye gouging, strikes to the throat, and real weaponry are not allowed in competitions for many reasons. I'm sure you know why. We all enjoy a good fight, but we don't want to see anyone dead in the ring. However, if my life is in danger, these rules do not apply to me. There is no Hercules or Superman.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES From what I've seen, heard, and read about aikido I would have to agree with that. I wouldn't want to pay anyone to learn aikido, but I wouldn't completely rule out some of the principles they teach. I've seen some folks defend themselves in such a way that resembles aikido, especially while trying to handle drunk fellows.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES It seems to me that anyone who is well versed in any martial art or fighting style will have learned the core principles of aikido anyway. So of course it wouldn't make sense for them to go backwards.
@INbredMonarchy One could make the argument that groin shots, biting, eye gouging and other "dirty tactics" needn't be trained and your "competition art" can be easily adapted..
But I am a big advocate of weapons training and I specialize in guandao, dadao, and longspear and teach them to my students.. The principles of dadao, if really understood, can transfer over into boxing without conscious.
@zakquack "The principles of dadao, if really understood, can transfer over into boxing without conscious."
Why do you say this in this conversation and not in the conversation with me? Curious how you talk of principles of certain things being able to to be applied to other things...yet you point out that it is a mistake I made in saying the same thing in my post.
@zakquack Very true, I don't think the eye gouging and ball bashing need to be trained, but I do think that if I can't subdue an attacker with my strength or my shabby skills, I need to keep these in the front of my mind. Weapons are the ultimate. Any real martial artist will eventually arrive at this conclusion. Weapons are the only way to guarantee an advantage in any situation. I prefer guns and knives, but whatever works. I think any style of training can be beneficial.
@INbredMonarchy Also, in many fighting sports there are tons of moves that have been taken out so the fight will last longer. ever gone to a boxing match where someone is knocked out after 20 seconds? not a crowd please'r. As you imply, there's a huge difference between Sports entertainment, and a surprise attack by three assailants with baseball bats and twice your weight.
Aikido the way of behaving like a stupid pet.. Attacking from a unrealistic Distance Attacking like a total morron, attack and freeze, ore worse run into the opponent Stick to the wrist and wait for the throw or even better behave like a rhino and just run towards the opponent and pass him whatever happens.. Never ever throw a second punch that would spoil the magic gay aikimoment.. Just do anything to behave like a total unrealistic fighter. Based on this behaviour Aikido works just fine
@suissecarnifex absolutely. A archaic spirtual based method based on the Japanese sword. How people have been duped into believing that it is a functional defensive tactics system is proof of gullibility
There are some monkeys that think Aikido won't work because people won't punch you like the uki punches... That's because they don't understand the purpose of the training. Perhaps they tried it & it didn't work for them because they were stuck on the idea that they were training for the specific punch. Aikidoist fight using the principles they learn through the techniques the train. Nobody in their right mind would think it's possible to memorize techniques to fight.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Training pure techniques with the idea that you can use them in fluid combat is a dream. No matter how "real" you believe your training is, it's not. Even boxing, BJJ train with techniques...they appear to be more realistic, but that's because they are more chaotic looking. Combat is a gamble, nobody can master it with only technical training. U must combine it with understanding principles. One principle may cover many situations whereas one technique covers 1 kind of attack
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - OK, great. So what? Doesn't negate what I told you. You didn't even understand on single thing or you don't want to listen. There is no way training these techniques in this video and thinking it will work in real life will work. I have already told u that. But you didn't understand anything. Instead your ignorant mind shows itself through your angry comments at my profile page. Instead of a logical answer, that's what monkeys do, because they r confused & unable to explain.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - I just visited your channel. It was exactly what I expected to see. Clips of "hard core" training and "hard core" drills for men and women with hardcore music to make it look bad ass.
You better hope your students learn the principles which the drills are designed to teach and that they don't mistaken the drills for the real deal. You better hope.
@matreyia very fundamental a mistake you are making.. Forgive my intrusion.. But I think it is important to note: Technique is not form and form is not technique. Most traditional MAs will grind forms into your head so that the technique would be engrained... And many techniques come in many forms. When in BJJ, we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.. but since we have done the form 30 times, the technique is naturally present
@zakquack -" we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.. but since we have done the form 30 times, the technique is naturally present"
Indeed, the technique is present naturally from practicing it constantly. And when the situation arises where the technique is appropriate, you may use it. However, if you only train the person in technique & exclude the underlying principles, you will find that person will freeze in thought in unfamiliar situations.
@zakquack - There's the technique of the reversal or the arm bar from whatever position. It is good to learn them. However, it is better to learn the principles behind those techniques so that one may freely apply the principles to other situations or configurations besides those exact techniques or positions...& trust me, there are many more configurations which use the principles found in the arm bar or reversal. But one who isn't aware of the principles will not be able to see them.
@zakquack - It is like a person who knows how to use a lighter or a match to make a strong fire but does not know the principles behind the technology or processes. He would be in trouble if he lost his lighter in the woods. Whereas a person who knows the principles of fire and making fire would just easily make a fire by creating friction with whatever objects he could find. Or with a thick piece of ice as a magnifying lens. I hope you understand my point.
If this is what u got from my comments, u misunderstood. Tech. as well as any action has form, but is not the same thing as the form. Forms arise from any action including martial arts, but is not the same as tech. Tech is a result of using mind to control body to solve problems in combat, this determines the form needed to optimally execute the technique in question. Form arises from tech. & not otherwise. The 2 aren't the same thing.
@zakquack - replying to your comment in detail does not equate to being defensive. That would be like me taking your initial disagreement as an attack. Foolish no?
@zakquack "we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.."
You have confused form with technique. In BJJ we train techniques, not forms. Training forms is Kata in karate or kung fu such as Wing Chun etc. BJJ/MMA has no forms, only techniques. The good schools also explain the principles behind each technique. Each particular tech. is a physical example of a principle at work. Try to understand principles behind every tech you're practicing.
@matreyia Forms are like doing shadow boxing or a coreographed fight, that teaches you techniques, balance, corrects the stance, etc. Of course nothing can replace, heavy bags, speed bags. practicing with a partner, sparring and fighting... But forms are a way to practice too when you don't have someone around. And they were invented to pass on the entire style(s) to others. Applications of any form may vary from instructors and that's the beauty on them. Greetings from Mexico.
I disagree. Shadow boxing has no preset forms. It should flow freely. As I said before, forms arise from the movements..when you shadowbox, you try to maintain good form and proper posture when you move and punch making sure all connections are present...but the shadowboxing itself is not choreographed and has no preset form.
"But forms are a way to practice too when you don't have someone around." ---yes, that is called Kata or Forms.
@matreyia unfortunately Youtube will not give me the chance ot give you two thumbs up:P
But yeah, dead on man. and not to mention that even training principles will not make much of a difference unless you've been in a good 10-15 fights (real life ones) before you actually manage to keep your cool enough to use them. and not just flail your arms around like a panicking monkey. I liked what the person in the video was hinting at with the center line principle though:)
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Judging from the lack of logical rebuttal, and the anger you show, I guess I hit a nerve close to home. Keep doing what you are doing...you'll be stuck at your plateau for the rest of your life. Good luck.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Monkeys only look at the motion of the hands and feet and mistaken them to be the main problem. Then they chase or try to block the hands or feet. Always losing when they try. No matter how fast they are, their eyes are never fast enough to catch the speed of the hands or feet. Indeed, the eye is the slowest information processor in the human body.
The trick is to observe the slower moving inner limbs of the body that the fast hands & feet are connected. Then it's easy.
@zacktillery - what doesn't work? training these techniques thinking that you can use them in combat? Of course not. I already told him that. But he is a bit thick and doesn't understand.
yup this is a very good technique but,how the hell can i stop him frm attacking over and over again?i don't have all day coz he keeps on coming. Can show us a video to stop an attacker in an instant?im a follower of your aikido coz your an excellent teacher...
@joeladobes If you've ever checked out real-world studies of supposed "stopping power" of various bullets, you'll find that all too often that simply doesn't happen like that. I've found that the best man-stopper is a hatchet.
@varanid9 can you carry that in a real world situation?........ i though so hahaha i'm not a gun owner but i know once you have a gun in general you have the edge in the situation you'll be in a disadvantage if he has a bigger gun in general :)
@joeladobes Not only do I own them but I've used them. Handguns are not the wonder-killers that the movies make them out to be. And yes, you can carry a small hatchet just as well as a full-sized sidearm. True, I'd prefer the gun in many situations, but they are SO LOUD, and unlike in the movies, the cops don't wait for the shoot-out to be over with before cutting on their sirens while still 10 miles away, thus giving the hero a chance to take off and be long gone by the time they pull up:)
@gnetzurc you dont in Aikido. He will get up, and give you a hug. Then you both will become friends and go sit on a hippy bean bag and drink tea and watch Seagal movies togather.
La confusion surge del hecho de q el aikido nace como sistema de defensa exclusivo y no de lucha/defensa. Personalmente yo prefiero proyectarme primero hacia adentro con una espiral descendente (modificada con uso de zancadillas), o hacia afuera con el uso de ikkyo (tb variado)). Posteriormente, si se da la oportunidad, son recomendables las llaves de muñeca para derrotar al rival definitivamente, pero es mejor entrenar la rapidez y precision de las espirales para un aikido efectivo.
@francogallo MMA?? do you know ho's training Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva these days?? Steven Seagal. do you know what steven seagal uses? AIKIDO. just shut the fuck up and learn, dude.
evrey thing this guy does is found in shotokan karate. i did shotokan karate for 3 years and i have brown belt so i know most of these moves, i do respect aikido but in my opinion karate is better cus its aikido + striking and kiking
@XxTBOMBERxX karate isnt aikido at all. its mostly striking and kicking, the only way for karate to defend themselves are through plain strength and vital kicks and puches like neck etc
@LilHiphoppinS I agree that karate and aikido are different. However at very high levels they can start to look similar in certain aspects. The very high ranked karateka will usually "adpot" blending movements and some throws similar to aikido or aikijujutsu. High level aikidoka usually will have some very effective atemi waza similar to okinawan hard style techniques " There are many paths to the top of the mountain , but the view from the top is the same" - unknown.
@LilHiphoppinS i know what ur saying cus in usa n canadad karate have been changed i mean alot of stuff were in karate that u wont find it there n thats y i stoped karate cus now im in canada i did karate in syria n the instrocter tuoght us locks, throws, chokes, ground work, and how to block a weapon or a gun or how to take it away from ur oponent
@XxTBOMBERxX it's a almost "offical" statement about aikido that it is a "synthesis" of different japanese martial arts. Also those "old masters" who really deicated a lot to their martial art - with them the differences between the arts arent so big anymore. It's more about the way we can get there. So ofc everyone is free to choose-and thats good. :)
It's easy to find some one who wants to shadow box with you. But to find a group, that wants to develop: Material, spirit, the Intellect. (With a strong sense of severing our community? still looking)
Aikido has ground grappling..actually judo, jujitsu and aikido come from the same family..aikido was for sword eras, tho its now used by police and soldiers..at the end of the day be very good with whatever skill u have, most of the time u wont have to defend urself against trained folks..i like bruce lee wisdom, use whatever works, fights are never fair..
@zacktillery Well. It depends on your luck. Perhaps you haven't found yet great aikido practicioners... But, no need to apply your experience as general rule. Imagine all the girls disatisfied with you saying all guys are dumb just because of the experience they had with you -as an example of course ;)
@fmluisito That is one guy she's dated. If she's dated, let's say 13 guys, and that all fucking suck, then she has the right to be a lesbian as the result. That's how i feel with aikido. Let's dissect this technique. If a person had adrenaline, do you really think they would flow like the person in the video? Of course not. As soon as the guy goes for the wrist and/or head grab, the street fighter will have gone for his legs by then. Ground fighting trumps 99% of traditional Martial Arts.
@zacktillery Again, you parhaps had bad luck on 13 times. I've practiced Karate, MMA & Brazilian Jujitsu. I started on martial arts when I was 10 yrs old. Im 26 now. I switch to Aikido after I went to my current' Sensei's Dojo to see by myself what Aikido was. He plainly told me: attack me, the way you want. I tried 3 times with no success. The Aikido we study, known as Iwama Aikido, is very effective. So I can tell from my experience, you had bad luck with your Aikido 'partners' :)
@fmluisito Since you seem to be educated and not a brainless troll, i'll start by saying respect to any fighter, it is the hardest dedication to provide your soul and life into it. However, i feel you avoided the accusation, either by agreeing or trying to avoid it completely. We can agree to disagree with aikido in general, so let's discuss this particular technique. Thoughts? Love and respect.
thanks for the clear explanation! i don't do aikido myself but i'd really like to incorporate these type of moves in my karate one day, or would that be a bad idea? it just seems like you can easily add punches or kneeshots to these type of movements
distorted1one 5 days ago
This is awesome. 0:19 is like a wing chun posture. Then it turns to something like Bagua Lion in our lineage with the piercing and severing. At 00:44, its almost like our snake posture. Funny how they link like slang from other languages.
DeemonChannel 5 days ago
See the only thing you're forgetting with this, you haven't eliminated his most sturdy weapon. I think at 0:37, you've got the best instance of when this would happen. What are you forgetting? His head. If he so much as JERKED his head to the side, you're now looking at a broken nose, possibly a concussion. Is it gonna work every time? No. Is it a good riposte to this technique? I think it is. I'm sure you people got things to say about this, and yeah. Akido is fucking nuts. Is it perfect? Nah.
insaneyanish 1 week ago
@insaneyanish You are only saying crap.
FabrizioBiondini 6 days ago
Great set of videos and nice to hear your reasoning and explanations in English.
thegaijin 1 week ago
Yes, this is an effective move. It can be used in an actual fight, and at the end of the day, it's useless in an actual fight. Aikido sucks.
There. Both ends covered. Lets move on. :D
mknippy1 1 week ago
@mknippy1 you move on, ima stick with it. :)
lucius215 1 week ago
WHERE YOU AT GEORGE!!!!!!!
DSlite11 1 week ago
Nick Diaz! Hell yea
avastyle44 1 week ago
NICK DIIIIIIIIIIIAZ!!!!!!! 209
NBKS100 1 week ago
I like how all of you get on here bashing him....Train MMA, if you think it's shit then go somewhere else. No body comes on to your MMA videos and says buy a gun. The fact is, MMA is a sport, he's not teaching a sport. If Aikido was shit, Kano would have never of sent his top students to train with O'Sensei. Incase you don't know who Kano is, he is the founder of Judo. You know, where Brazilian Jiu Jitsu came from. O'Sensei was a proven warrior on the field of battle in the Russo-Japanese War.
24zirkle 1 week ago
So not sure how it could be ineffective in a "true fight" when it has been used in combat for many years. I love MMA just as much as the next guy, but be real about it. It's a sport in a ring with rules. The street is something completely different. You're not going to be fighting a guy 1-on-1, you're gonna be fighting him and his buddies. So you better not end up on the ground. Or you may be lucky enough to get into it with someone w/ a gun or knife and all the MMA in the world won't save you.
24zirkle 1 week ago
@24zirkle Brazilian Jiu Jiu Jitsu didn't come from Judo, it came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and that comes from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu (the common source for Judo, Jiu Jitsu and Aikido).
That martial art was split in multiple arts for a lot of reasons, the most objective being: Jigoro Kano designed a competition-safe art, interesting to watch and without lethal moves; Jiu Jitsu is mostly the ground fight and aikido uses the traditional techniques (effective if you're holding a sword or knife).
Sagramorbald 1 week ago
@Sagramorbald "Brazilian Jiu Jiu Jitsu didn't come from Judo"
absolutely incorrect.
brazilian jiujitsu is a direct descendent of judo.
kano taught judo to maeda, maeda taught judo to the gracies.
helio gracie sucked at nagewaza but he was really good at newaza, so that's how he taught judo.
the gracies decided to sponsor judo competitions with a rule set that emphasized newaza which is at odds with traditional judo competition rules.
so they renamed it jiujitsu to avoid confusion.
SUPERSTUD6000 1 week ago
That kind of techniques are useless in a true fight.
/watch?v=OsCQYTXcJ70
To have learn a little bit a aikido, then moves to other MA, and then duel some Aikido master, I know that this techniques aren't applicable in those situations for example. All you defense will just be overflowed. Then I won't even spoke about confirmed martial artist.
Sadoruro 1 week ago
Nice technique. The thing that irritates is aikidokas always train such techniques with another ones but it's obvious they are not good enough at punching or kicking at all. It'll be very useful if they practice this against fellow boxers or other striking MA practitioners increasing the speed gradually. Usually they don't do this so if they run onto a trained, hitting opponent how will they catch his punch or hook if they trained the technique mainly against slow hitters?
mastichka 2 weeks ago
@mastichka This is just a demonstration, they are obviously going to go slow.
killerclown789 1 week ago
1:18 LMAO
Shapeshifterxxx 2 weeks ago
cool
danny205wp 2 weeks ago
HOLY FUCK watching this while high
72Roo67 2 weeks ago 2
some may say it dont work in a real fight..it works....ninjutsu is about the same moves i like adding other stuff to my learning..this is very good stuff sir...tx george
rubylaser163 2 weeks ago
i enjoyed watching you use big circles. i shall try to incorporate this in my studies. good cutting and diversion of force. let your opponent do what he wants to do and use that energy in your favor.
Raizgriz 3 weeks ago
not bad
mainzer51 3 weeks ago
good move.
illfullyreal 3 weeks ago
No this wont work, garbage, fake, fantasy, get a real fight and try this garbage!! youlle ce what happens..
minasz 3 weeks ago
The flinch part might work, but on a jab like that, wouldn't he pull his arm back as soon as you deflect it?
daveshn 4 weeks ago
@daveshn even faster so...
robertgaudlitz 4 weeks ago
@daveshn Nope. The principle of Aikido is interception. You aren't waiting for extension to complete before you enter, you anticipate and move at the very beginning of the attack vector - something most other martial artists don't understand. As a result, you are in a position to "cut" your opponent, and he has no option but to go in the direction you mandate.
ikemstar 1 week ago
The second application is a better one, but the first is ok for demo purposes. People like to see people rolling on the floor. lol. In reality, you're most likely NOT going to be able to pull of that move entirely, but you'll do it IF YOU GRAB AND TRIP the person being thrown, like in Judo. Sweeps work.
nomamao 4 weeks ago
Honest question: In wing chun there is the idea of using a forward intent to stick to the opponent's body in such a way that makes them (the opponent) feel constant pressure even in cases where the WC guy is stepping back. When you Aikido practitioners perform your techniques do you also use the same idea or forward intent to stick to the person in order to prevent them from withdrawing their hand, leg, body, etc...?
constablekohler 4 weeks ago
@constablekohler Yes, it's works in a similar way. I practise both Wing Chun and Aikido. They complement each other quite well as they are both internal arts and share similar principles.
aikitahmas 4 weeks ago
@aikitahmas right right. i subscribed to your channel, but yeah, in watching some of your other videos I can see shapes similar to the bong & tan from WC in aikido. Very interesting. Good stuff. Ignore the haters!
constablekohler 3 weeks ago
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matreyia 5 days ago
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I think so. Aikido uses similar principles as WC. Interception, balance, forward projection of Ki. Shut enemies down before they get to optimal position, they win the race via relative positioning.
matreyia 5 days ago
I don't get it. What's wrong with you guys? Who of you has used Aikido in a street fight or similar confrontation? Who honestly did?
thepsi24 4 weeks ago
Face Punch defense... sure the punch will come with this speed lol.. even a 5 years old kid would intercept it.. Ohh yes of course but thats just showing the applications.. but unfortunatly when then the students practise it they do it also with the same slow speed lol..
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
Yes some aikido joint locks.. can work on average punks.. or smaller and untrained opponents... same like with wing chun u can pretty much disable and knock down a lil wannabe gang from a near by high school lol.. But face this if a Huge Mean TANK built guy who seems to be strong like a Bull and violent who knows maybe even trained!!!u think u could pull a arm bar on him or joint lock..or slap him in the face and he woudl just simply go down lol???Im not sure!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
Again.. Aikido , wing chun , Hapkido , TKD.. all have so much comments under they videos and big debates.. and the reason is.. they realy Have alot of time to explain why and where.. who and what works.. and this way or that way.. but they most of them all failed to show us real events when they had the upper hand , end of the story!!!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
of course Muscles.. and being strong is not always the most important factor.. but it still remains a factor.. look at these Aikido guys.. most of them are sloppy and have a big bear bellys lol!!!Ur not douing cardio during ur AIKIDO classes!!!Ive done Aikido when teenager for 3 years..about.. but then later on when I trained other stuff.. I was shocked.. how big difference it was... I barely survived my first MMA class...and I was like wow these guys train like this EVERY CLASS.. so humm
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
LOL n LOL again at sammy7848 comment ahahaha... AIKIDO made for warr!!! Jesus Christ guys have u ever realy tried other styles or been in a tournament or sparred with ur friends in anyway???Just go try some Boxing or MMA.. and you will see how different just they training ways are.. believe me u gonna puke blood afther the first class!!!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
@LieutenantD0gg
i never said it was for war
sammy7848 1 month ago
@sammy7848
the other guy did, zmilitary, hwatever his name is
sammy7848 1 month ago
@LieutenantD0gg
the problem is afker you puke blood, what is the lesson to learn?
mma has nothing to do with martial art spirit, only pure violence with no spiritual meaning.
jin54363 4 weeks ago
@jin54363 Martial art means military art. It is about winning. Nothing else. All the spiritual mumbo jumbo is from Asian culture and pseudo religion. It is a marketing gimmick in the US. Martial arts are about violence. That IS what they are for.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES
i see you know nothing about martial arts, the spiritual stuff is not religious at all, it is philosofal, and has nothing about arrogance, or winning, what matters is how good opponent are you, how respectful, not how arrogant.
martial arts and desportive combats are 2 different things.
jin54363 4 weeks ago
@jin54363 "philosofal"? Nice. Go sit down clownshoe.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES
and what my bad spelling has to do with this argument?
i'm a portuguese speaker btw, not an american nor an british, educate yourself mentally before making an point about my spelling.
jin54363 4 weeks ago
@LieutenantD0gg no doubt.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
I never said I was a Master.. all I say is.. AIKIDO...big waste of time..
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
Hapkido lol.. ahaha its about the same shit.. just its Korean!!! Ohh yes but HAPKIDO is much more violent lol.. please!!! yeah a few goog joint locks thats about it...even TKD is more effective then Aikido!!!give me a break..
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
lol hey for the guy who told me.. that they teach AIKIDO to like...FBI and what ever LOL please... ahahaha.. Judo even if younger much more superior then aikido will ever be...
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
@LieutenantD0gg Judo is just a portion of jujitsu.
Lexicologist71 4 weeks ago
try looking up chen bing push hand 2
kurishtan 1 month ago
there's a reason you don't see people over 30 in Sanda kick boxing, MMA, and full contact Juijitsu.
kurishtan 1 month ago
the purpose of aikido isn't about debilitating the other person. it's about control over yourself and removing the point object in front of you so that you can take care of the next. External arts like the majority that fall under the MMA umbrella raise up bamboo. You grow up quick and by the time you're thirty you're spent. Things like aikido, chen tai chi, and so on, grow oak. It may take you seven years to reach a fighting potential but that root lasts even into old age.
kurishtan 1 month ago 2
If you really want to know anything, GO to a freaking class instead of reading all the clowns who talk about all the arts they have studied from one class and consider themselves masters. Aikido is the good stuff. I have a black belt in Hapkido, but still wish I could find time to attend more Aikido classes.
Lexicologist71 1 month ago
so I suggest from my experiance.. for anyone who wanna do martial arts.. to go for the good old stuff.. such as Judo , Brazilian Jujistu . Wrestling , Boxing , Muay Thai , Kick boxing..they are much easier to find and ofthen more affordable.. and at least u realy Master somthing solid...instead of trying to get all these killer dangerous moves from Ninjas and Kung fu. or lame ass wannabe CQC combat methods that never been used and wont be lol!!!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
@LieutenantD0gg Uh, Judo is only about 100 years old. Brazilian Jujitsu is even younger.
As for the usefulness of Aikido, ask the US Secret Service and the FBI why they teach their techniques.
Lexicologist71 1 month ago
@Lexicologist71 they dont. that is bullshit.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
Traditional martial arts.. spend so much time.. on teaching u the philosophy.. and the forms.. and whats the meaning.. they basicaly sell u this I WILL BE A SAMOURAI.. or I will be A NINJA fantacy.. or a Kung fu Master.. lol!!!You will learn good things but.. eventualy you will feel nothing comming out of it in return...so what if u know 300 kung fu form by heart? have u ever even tryed them?
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
Ive trained in when kid in TKD..shotokan..Judo.. then later on teenager got into aikido.. then wing chun.. then kun tao silat.. then some Pekiti tersia Kali...systhema..Muay thai..Doce pares.. xing yi chuan.. choy lee fut..I been around!!!Sure you learn good things.. and u can make it work but.. traditional martial arts lack..just streight simple fighting...+ they always do applications only like 10-15 mins.. at the end of the class..so its hella long journey to learn some!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
aikido especialy takes the cake for..noneresisting two on two application training.. In other styles they also have this.. but somehow the other styles have better chances to make it work then aikido!!!such as silta , wing chun.. kung fu.. and such..but even them.. they need to realy make sure they can apply they stuff in different situations and against a more violent and alive opponent!!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
Zack yeah Philosophy is great.. but the way they train u wont be even able to defend yourself properly when u will face a situation...and besides its common sence u dont need to kill or tottaly bruttaly wack someone..if he goes down or u manage to trow him on the ground and he dont seem as a imediate danger anymore.. u can just walk away.. no need to stump his head in lol!!!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
I agree.. this wont work.. Ive done many styles of martial arts and Ive done Aikido to when I was teenager!!!they have a few good joint locks but nothing more.. I agree with Mojothemigo guy!!! all the way!
LieutenantD0gg 1 month ago
very good ! great demostration,
crystyan1975 1 month ago
I wish this cat was in Orlando. He really seems to know how to teach!
flagface4 1 month ago
12 years ago, i learned not to cross your arms. 3 years of that, and i've learned the massive results that can occur if you do. Now that i do MMA, i DEFINITELY would NEVER cross my arms. Why wouldn't you just duck and move behind him? If the ultimate goal of this throw is to CONTROL the other person and throw him, why not just duck, take a single, and do a fireman throw? MUCH easier, smoother, and reliable. Just my thoughts. :) Good luck and happy training!
zacktillery 1 month ago 2
@zacktillery The goal of Aikido is not to move around your opponent very much. Instead you confrot him, deflect his strikes and turn their power around so he is at a disadvantage. Without power or force, you defeat your enemy with smooth and soft movements. That's the philosophy behind Aikido. And as always, there is no ultimate solution. How you engage is entirely up to you. I myself don't like to fight force with more force.
cheers
thepsi24 1 month ago
@thepsi24 It really depends on what you're aiming to do. If he's coming to kill me, i'm going to full force. A fireman works more often, and does more damage than this throw/toss thing he's showing. This might work if he's special ed, but not in any other instance, or any that i can find.
zacktillery 1 month ago
@zacktillery I get your point, and I think you got one there, but again I have to disagree, well kind of. Aikido's philosophy says that you should not harm your enemy, regardless of the situation your're in. If someone's coming to kill me, I don't use Aikido but still it is possible to do so. Aikido, like each martial art is a tool, like knife. How you use it depends on you.
thepsi24 1 month ago
@zacktillery
You could argue that....
But I wouldn't, crossing arms can be applied realistically, its just how you're trained, we cross arms yet it can be used in real life as MMA can, maybe you lost your patience with aikido?
sammy7848 1 month ago
@sammy7848 The risks are too great. Even an ameature can pull an easy arm triangle when you do, and move in to take you down...and if he's got friends..you get curb stomped. No point in crossing your arms.
zacktillery 1 month ago
@zacktillery
Again, i agree but put yourself in the situation, you go to attack some random guy would you really expect him to know and do all these fancy moves on you? I don't think either of us woukd. And you say about his friends, yes, you could take down one guy and his mates will come over but thats the same with any art whether it be aikido, karate, or MMA, everyone else watching might get involved.
sammy7848 1 month ago
@sammy7848 Aikido will be less effective than MMA in a street fight, because it was made for war, not punks at a club. End of story.
zacktillery 1 month ago
@zacktillery
Not really, who says you have to fight a war to win it?. This is boring,. you are wrong, its the artist not the art
sammy7848 1 month ago
@sammy7848 Complete opinion, however, there is pure support and research that says it's the style. Rebuttal?
zacktillery 4 weeks ago
Very interesting if incredibley good block and control. I do see a problem with the flip though. Throws can hurt and hurt real bad, but they can also just piss somebody off. It looks like it would set up the face in perfect alignment to have it smashed in with a knee. I am not flaming or being mean at all. I've seen people thrown hard in a fight on a hard floor and get back up and it is a real concern. It might slow an attacker down, but there is a high chance it doesn't disable the attacker
mojothemigo 1 month ago
@mojothemigo It is all clownshoes. Nobody attacks in the necessary manner for aikido to be fuctional. It is a compliance based dance.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
true and untrue ... its a complex issue.
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES WOH! Thats pretty big talk there. I'm not saying you are wrong either. Have you ever fought, and I mean an actual fight (not spar) with an Aikido practitioner? I watched your one video, so you do have knowledge of the topic. I am in Krav Maga myself, just a newb whitebelt. I'm just a little bit surprised an instructor of another school talking hard smack.
mojothemigo 1 month ago
@mojothemigo because if you take defensive training seriously, and you train other people to protect themselves from lethal force you take on a certain obligation to your students to train in a realistic manner. If someone wants to train in Aikido that is there business, but critism is going to happen. There is a reason that there is everything from skepticism to flat out bafoonery.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Most would not while sober, but haven't you seen a barfight? A bouncer could probably make use of something like this.
INbredMonarchy 1 month ago
@INbredMonarchy I have been in plenty considering I bounced for 5 years and and a combat vet and work in an armed profession. Plenty of grappling works. From jujutsu to BJJ and wrestling. Aikido is a clownshoe dance for spiritual hippies that want a false sense of security. Do you think a boxer is gonna punch like the Aikidoist trains against. Maybe you should look into what real violence looks like as opposed to a Seagal movie.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I've seen plenty of violence. Not everyone is a boxer and considering aikido is from Japan, it was most likely developed with karate in mind. I do not practice aikido, but I can see some usefulness in it. Furthermore this is only a short glimpse of what they are teaching and if you are telling the truth about your credentials, then I'm sure you've learned by now that you don't have to be a professional fighter to defend yourself against average people. Peace.
INbredMonarchy 4 weeks ago
@INbredMonarchy There is no such thing as "average people" when it comes to defensive tactics. That assumption can and has gotten uncounted numbers of people killed. Karate was Okinawa's answer to combating armed, armored Samurai. Aikido was developed from the philosophical aspects of Kenjutsu and jujutsu applications. It has very little use in actual dynamic hand to hand combat. It it worked it would be capitalized in the ring. All this too lethal for comp stuff is nonsense.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Everyone is mortal, therefore everyone is average. If nothing was "too lethal for competition" then there would be no rules in competition. Groin shots, biting, eye gouging, strikes to the throat, and real weaponry are not allowed in competitions for many reasons. I'm sure you know why. We all enjoy a good fight, but we don't want to see anyone dead in the ring. However, if my life is in danger, these rules do not apply to me. There is no Hercules or Superman.
INbredMonarchy 4 weeks ago 11
@INbredMonarchy my point exactly,and Aikido doesn't address, nor is it capable within its parameters of addressing that reality.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES From what I've seen, heard, and read about aikido I would have to agree with that. I wouldn't want to pay anyone to learn aikido, but I wouldn't completely rule out some of the principles they teach. I've seen some folks defend themselves in such a way that resembles aikido, especially while trying to handle drunk fellows.
INbredMonarchy 3 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES It seems to me that anyone who is well versed in any martial art or fighting style will have learned the core principles of aikido anyway. So of course it wouldn't make sense for them to go backwards.
INbredMonarchy 3 weeks ago
@INbredMonarchy One could make the argument that groin shots, biting, eye gouging and other "dirty tactics" needn't be trained and your "competition art" can be easily adapted..
But I am a big advocate of weapons training and I specialize in guandao, dadao, and longspear and teach them to my students.. The principles of dadao, if really understood, can transfer over into boxing without conscious.
zakquack 5 days ago
@zakquack "The principles of dadao, if really understood, can transfer over into boxing without conscious."
Why do you say this in this conversation and not in the conversation with me? Curious how you talk of principles of certain things being able to to be applied to other things...yet you point out that it is a mistake I made in saying the same thing in my post.
matreyia 5 days ago
@zakquack Very true, I don't think the eye gouging and ball bashing need to be trained, but I do think that if I can't subdue an attacker with my strength or my shabby skills, I need to keep these in the front of my mind. Weapons are the ultimate. Any real martial artist will eventually arrive at this conclusion. Weapons are the only way to guarantee an advantage in any situation. I prefer guns and knives, but whatever works. I think any style of training can be beneficial.
INbredMonarchy 4 days ago
@INbredMonarchy Also, in many fighting sports there are tons of moves that have been taken out so the fight will last longer. ever gone to a boxing match where someone is knocked out after 20 seconds? not a crowd please'r. As you imply, there's a huge difference between Sports entertainment, and a surprise attack by three assailants with baseball bats and twice your weight.
codexdelux 4 days ago
@codexdelux Ya that would suck, but if they were twice my weight they probably couldn't give chase lol. (I'm 250-ish)
INbredMonarchy 3 days ago
I like the simultaneous deflection and counter-strike.
JohnRaptor 1 month ago
One of the best explanations of Kaitenage I've seen. Love how this throw (and versions of it) show up in many other martial arts as well.
digby72 1 month ago
1:17-1:23 lmao
SakuraSolidMarker 1 month ago
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Aikido the way of behaving like a stupid pet.. Attacking from a unrealistic Distance Attacking like a total morron, attack and freeze, ore worse run into the opponent Stick to the wrist and wait for the throw or even better behave like a rhino and just run towards the opponent and pass him whatever happens.. Never ever throw a second punch that would spoil the magic gay aikimoment.. Just do anything to behave like a total unrealistic fighter. Based on this behaviour Aikido works just fine
suissecarnifex 1 month ago
@suissecarnifex absolutely. A archaic spirtual based method based on the Japanese sword. How people have been duped into believing that it is a functional defensive tactics system is proof of gullibility
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
There are some monkeys that think Aikido won't work because people won't punch you like the uki punches... That's because they don't understand the purpose of the training. Perhaps they tried it & it didn't work for them because they were stuck on the idea that they were training for the specific punch. Aikidoist fight using the principles they learn through the techniques the train. Nobody in their right mind would think it's possible to memorize techniques to fight.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
@matreyia I understand perfectly. It doesnt work, and that is an excuse to not train with any realism.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Training pure techniques with the idea that you can use them in fluid combat is a dream. No matter how "real" you believe your training is, it's not. Even boxing, BJJ train with techniques...they appear to be more realistic, but that's because they are more chaotic looking. Combat is a gamble, nobody can master it with only technical training. U must combine it with understanding principles. One principle may cover many situations whereas one technique covers 1 kind of attack
matreyia 4 weeks ago 7
@matreyia Go lecture someone else. I have been involved in control of violence my entire adult life. I do this for a living. Mr.Miyagi.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - OK, great. So what? Doesn't negate what I told you. You didn't even understand on single thing or you don't want to listen. There is no way training these techniques in this video and thinking it will work in real life will work. I have already told u that. But you didn't understand anything. Instead your ignorant mind shows itself through your angry comments at my profile page. Instead of a logical answer, that's what monkeys do, because they r confused & unable to explain.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - I just visited your channel. It was exactly what I expected to see. Clips of "hard core" training and "hard core" drills for men and women with hardcore music to make it look bad ass.
You better hope your students learn the principles which the drills are designed to teach and that they don't mistaken the drills for the real deal. You better hope.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
@matreyia very fundamental a mistake you are making.. Forgive my intrusion.. But I think it is important to note: Technique is not form and form is not technique. Most traditional MAs will grind forms into your head so that the technique would be engrained... And many techniques come in many forms. When in BJJ, we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.. but since we have done the form 30 times, the technique is naturally present
zakquack 5 days ago
@zakquack -" we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.. but since we have done the form 30 times, the technique is naturally present"
Indeed, the technique is present naturally from practicing it constantly. And when the situation arises where the technique is appropriate, you may use it. However, if you only train the person in technique & exclude the underlying principles, you will find that person will freeze in thought in unfamiliar situations.
matreyia 5 days ago
@zakquack - There's the technique of the reversal or the arm bar from whatever position. It is good to learn them. However, it is better to learn the principles behind those techniques so that one may freely apply the principles to other situations or configurations besides those exact techniques or positions...& trust me, there are many more configurations which use the principles found in the arm bar or reversal. But one who isn't aware of the principles will not be able to see them.
matreyia 5 days ago
@zakquack - It is like a person who knows how to use a lighter or a match to make a strong fire but does not know the principles behind the technology or processes. He would be in trouble if he lost his lighter in the woods. Whereas a person who knows the principles of fire and making fire would just easily make a fire by creating friction with whatever objects he could find. Or with a thick piece of ice as a magnifying lens. I hope you understand my point.
matreyia 5 days ago
@zakquack "Tech. is not form & form is not tech."
If this is what u got from my comments, u misunderstood. Tech. as well as any action has form, but is not the same thing as the form. Forms arise from any action including martial arts, but is not the same as tech. Tech is a result of using mind to control body to solve problems in combat, this determines the form needed to optimally execute the technique in question. Form arises from tech. & not otherwise. The 2 aren't the same thing.
matreyia 5 days ago
@matreyia I feared you would be defensive, though I was trying to make a contribution... I'll be back later, must go to the gym now..
zakquack 5 days ago
@zakquack - replying to your comment in detail does not equate to being defensive. That would be like me taking your initial disagreement as an attack. Foolish no?
matreyia 5 days ago
@zakquack "we drill forms but they rarely find their ways into liverolls in exactly that same form.."
You have confused form with technique. In BJJ we train techniques, not forms. Training forms is Kata in karate or kung fu such as Wing Chun etc. BJJ/MMA has no forms, only techniques. The good schools also explain the principles behind each technique. Each particular tech. is a physical example of a principle at work. Try to understand principles behind every tech you're practicing.
matreyia 4 days ago
@matreyia Forms are like doing shadow boxing or a coreographed fight, that teaches you techniques, balance, corrects the stance, etc. Of course nothing can replace, heavy bags, speed bags. practicing with a partner, sparring and fighting... But forms are a way to practice too when you don't have someone around. And they were invented to pass on the entire style(s) to others. Applications of any form may vary from instructors and that's the beauty on them. Greetings from Mexico.
glaurungdragon1 3 days ago
@glaurungdragon1 -"Forms are like doing shadow boxing"
I disagree. Shadow boxing has no preset forms. It should flow freely. As I said before, forms arise from the movements..when you shadowbox, you try to maintain good form and proper posture when you move and punch making sure all connections are present...but the shadowboxing itself is not choreographed and has no preset form.
"But forms are a way to practice too when you don't have someone around." ---yes, that is called Kata or Forms.
matreyia 3 days ago
@matreyia unfortunately Youtube will not give me the chance ot give you two thumbs up:P
But yeah, dead on man. and not to mention that even training principles will not make much of a difference unless you've been in a good 10-15 fights (real life ones) before you actually manage to keep your cool enough to use them. and not just flail your arms around like a panicking monkey. I liked what the person in the video was hinting at with the center line principle though:)
codexdelux 4 days ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - what are the principles which they train?
1. body unity with limbs.
2. core stability, awareness and control vs. their opponent's stability
3. not hitting with the hands or feet, but rather the entire body united at the pt. of contact of the hand or foot.
4. not pushing the opponent with muscular effort, but rather displacing his mass with your mass.
And you probably don't understand any of this. All arts follow this schema. Monkeys don't see the underlying principles.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
@matreyia blather on clownshoe. You can come find out anytime you want.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Judging from the lack of logical rebuttal, and the anger you show, I guess I hit a nerve close to home. Keep doing what you are doing...you'll be stuck at your plateau for the rest of your life. Good luck.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES - Monkeys only look at the motion of the hands and feet and mistaken them to be the main problem. Then they chase or try to block the hands or feet. Always losing when they try. No matter how fast they are, their eyes are never fast enough to catch the speed of the hands or feet. Indeed, the eye is the slowest information processor in the human body.
The trick is to observe the slower moving inner limbs of the body that the fast hands & feet are connected. Then it's easy.
matreyia 4 weeks ago 2
@matreyia I agree with hybridcombatives, it doesn't work.
zacktillery 4 weeks ago
@zacktillery - what doesn't work? training these techniques thinking that you can use them in combat? Of course not. I already told him that. But he is a bit thick and doesn't understand.
matreyia 4 weeks ago
yup this is a very good technique but,how the hell can i stop him frm attacking over and over again?i don't have all day coz he keeps on coming. Can show us a video to stop an attacker in an instant?im a follower of your aikido coz your an excellent teacher...
gnetzurc 1 month ago
@gnetzurc once he's down kick him in the head and he would probably be knock out, injured for life, or something like that.
lordriger 1 month ago
@lordriger intensive care my friend belive me i know ;)
brad187em 1 month ago
@gnetzurc u want instant? uhmmm shoot him he'll stop coming at u i guaranty it hahaha
joeladobes 1 month ago
@joeladobes If you've ever checked out real-world studies of supposed "stopping power" of various bullets, you'll find that all too often that simply doesn't happen like that. I've found that the best man-stopper is a hatchet.
varanid9 1 month ago
@varanid9 can you carry that in a real world situation?........ i though so hahaha i'm not a gun owner but i know once you have a gun in general you have the edge in the situation you'll be in a disadvantage if he has a bigger gun in general :)
joeladobes 1 month ago
@joeladobes Not only do I own them but I've used them. Handguns are not the wonder-killers that the movies make them out to be. And yes, you can carry a small hatchet just as well as a full-sized sidearm. True, I'd prefer the gun in many situations, but they are SO LOUD, and unlike in the movies, the cops don't wait for the shoot-out to be over with before cutting on their sirens while still 10 miles away, thus giving the hero a chance to take off and be long gone by the time they pull up:)
varanid9 1 month ago
@gnetzurc you dont in Aikido. He will get up, and give you a hug. Then you both will become friends and go sit on a hippy bean bag and drink tea and watch Seagal movies togather.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 4 weeks ago
As usual the blind are the most vocal and critical. This is beautiful. Thank you.
Geekman333 1 month ago
La confusion surge del hecho de q el aikido nace como sistema de defensa exclusivo y no de lucha/defensa. Personalmente yo prefiero proyectarme primero hacia adentro con una espiral descendente (modificada con uso de zancadillas), o hacia afuera con el uso de ikkyo (tb variado)). Posteriormente, si se da la oportunidad, son recomendables las llaves de muñeca para derrotar al rival definitivamente, pero es mejor entrenar la rapidez y precision de las espirales para un aikido efectivo.
pipaher 1 month ago
Great stuff! Thank you for posting this. You make it look like something I can possibly grasp. Excellent teacher!
fireman82397 1 month ago
kind of expected him to fus ro da at the end there. not sure why.
FormerHuman 1 month ago
fans like francogallo....always saying stupid stuff.... no training, but lots and lots of bloffin
jzama85 1 month ago
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jzama85 1 month ago
this is fake, this is shit, this is fantasia esto es un mierda no funciona sino observar mma.
francogallo 1 month ago
@francogallo MMA?? do you know ho's training Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva these days?? Steven Seagal. do you know what steven seagal uses? AIKIDO. just shut the fuck up and learn, dude.
jzama85 1 month ago
@jzama85 blabla bla bla bla anderson silva no gano usando aikido
francogallo 1 month ago
This is excellent!
42Cleve 2 months ago
thank you for the videos
TheAIH16 2 months ago
evrey thing this guy does is found in shotokan karate. i did shotokan karate for 3 years and i have brown belt so i know most of these moves, i do respect aikido but in my opinion karate is better cus its aikido + striking and kiking
XxTBOMBERxX 2 months ago
@XxTBOMBERxX karate isnt aikido at all. its mostly striking and kicking, the only way for karate to defend themselves are through plain strength and vital kicks and puches like neck etc
LilHiphoppinS 2 months ago
@LilHiphoppinS I agree that karate and aikido are different. However at very high levels they can start to look similar in certain aspects. The very high ranked karateka will usually "adpot" blending movements and some throws similar to aikido or aikijujutsu. High level aikidoka usually will have some very effective atemi waza similar to okinawan hard style techniques " There are many paths to the top of the mountain , but the view from the top is the same" - unknown.
6hooligan 2 months ago
@6hooligan tottaly right!! I agree.
jzama85 1 month ago
@LilHiphoppinS i know what ur saying cus in usa n canadad karate have been changed i mean alot of stuff were in karate that u wont find it there n thats y i stoped karate cus now im in canada i did karate in syria n the instrocter tuoght us locks, throws, chokes, ground work, and how to block a weapon or a gun or how to take it away from ur oponent
XxTBOMBERxX 2 months ago
@XxTBOMBERxX it's a almost "offical" statement about aikido that it is a "synthesis" of different japanese martial arts. Also those "old masters" who really deicated a lot to their martial art - with them the differences between the arts arent so big anymore. It's more about the way we can get there. So ofc everyone is free to choose-and thats good. :)
MXopti 1 month ago
@99XM look at some of the hatenkai aikido videos on his YouTube channel
725clem 2 months ago
Check out hatenkaiaikido YouTube page to see aikido used in sparing situations.
725clem 2 months ago
Brilliant!
I did a similar move in Ju Jitsu- but it pushed him backwards.
Thanks for Posting ;)
flashart 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
It's easy to find some one who wants to shadow box with you. But to find a group, that wants to develop: Material, spirit, the Intellect. (With a strong sense of severing our community? still looking)
1awareness 3 months ago
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1awareness 3 months ago
is he fighting michael madson?
D202116 3 months ago
@D202116 THIS IS UNUSEFULL AGAINST A REAL FIGHTERS, SIMPLE DONT WORK.
99XM 3 months ago
I would love to see how well he would do against a mma fighter.
traumahawk517 3 months ago
Come on people, you all look stupid arguing about which martial art is superior/inferior. Whatever it is, they all balance out.
Remember:
The mountain does not laugh at the river for its lowliness,
Neither does the river mock the mountain for its immobility.
Commendor1337 3 months ago in playlist Kaitenage
Guy's got Swag.
esean3645 3 months ago
Aikido has ground grappling..actually judo, jujitsu and aikido come from the same family..aikido was for sword eras, tho its now used by police and soldiers..at the end of the day be very good with whatever skill u have, most of the time u wont have to defend urself against trained folks..i like bruce lee wisdom, use whatever works, fights are never fair..
homevideowatcher78 3 months ago
Nice way to explain the technique :)
fmluisito 3 months ago
My problem with aikido is that they never prove their techniques. They are just dancing...
nomilkforsanta 4 months ago
@nomilkforsanta Exactly. It never works, it's mostly for show. I've sparred with so many people that do aikido and they NEVER do anything realistic.
zacktillery 3 months ago
@zacktillery Well. It depends on your luck. Perhaps you haven't found yet great aikido practicioners... But, no need to apply your experience as general rule. Imagine all the girls disatisfied with you saying all guys are dumb just because of the experience they had with you -as an example of course ;)
fmluisito 3 months ago
@fmluisito That is one guy she's dated. If she's dated, let's say 13 guys, and that all fucking suck, then she has the right to be a lesbian as the result. That's how i feel with aikido. Let's dissect this technique. If a person had adrenaline, do you really think they would flow like the person in the video? Of course not. As soon as the guy goes for the wrist and/or head grab, the street fighter will have gone for his legs by then. Ground fighting trumps 99% of traditional Martial Arts.
zacktillery 3 months ago
@zacktillery Again, you parhaps had bad luck on 13 times. I've practiced Karate, MMA & Brazilian Jujitsu. I started on martial arts when I was 10 yrs old. Im 26 now. I switch to Aikido after I went to my current' Sensei's Dojo to see by myself what Aikido was. He plainly told me: attack me, the way you want. I tried 3 times with no success. The Aikido we study, known as Iwama Aikido, is very effective. So I can tell from my experience, you had bad luck with your Aikido 'partners' :)
fmluisito 3 months ago
@fmluisito Since you seem to be educated and not a brainless troll, i'll start by saying respect to any fighter, it is the hardest dedication to provide your soul and life into it. However, i feel you avoided the accusation, either by agreeing or trying to avoid it completely. We can agree to disagree with aikido in general, so let's discuss this particular technique. Thoughts? Love and respect.
zacktillery 3 months ago