JAY Z DIDNT SAMPLE THIS.....Why do people say the rapper sampled the beat....the PRODUCER did....and the producer of this track was No I.D ..only a few rappers make there own beats
I sample many songs and i just finished sampling Ahmad Jamal-Dialogue, and the original always sounds better than the sample, N.O. I.D. didnt copy he took the part he liked the best and looped it.
why are people acting like jay-z made the beat like hes the one that produuced if you gonna blame somebody blame no id eventho its not stealing im sure they got permission all jay-z does is raps he not the one going through old records
let's make this perfectly clear. Nobody is stealing anything. When you sample music you have to get it cleared which means whoever owns the rights to the song has to agree and sign off on it being used. You think Jay-Z is millionaire he is, is really stealing music hoping he doesn't get sued??...BUMMD
@GroovyColouredLove its not stealing if you ask for it ... in which 90% of the time the producer does ... or they will be sued for thousands .... if not trying to change your mind becuase you would have to be a true fan of hip hop to understand ... but i see where your coming from ... Its like making a collage
You are right, it is a collage of "other artist" music that really created the music.... Yet the credit does not go to them. Please answer me though why not even one of the samplers of the hip hop community can actually make their own sounds instead of collage other REAL musicians work of art?
@GroovyColouredLove please do research before making statements like that ... that is extremely false. Look at Kanye West ... he came up as a producer ... and still is one ... although 90% of his songs are sample based... look at songs like All of The Lights (which he executively produced) .... Theres not a sample in it and i for one think the music in it is great.
@GroovyColouredLove also, look at hip hop producer Kane. He produced Show Goes On by lupe fiasco. It contains a guitar sample riff from a Modest Mouse song .... which both constantly credit in interviews about the song. The sample riff only makes so much of the song .... Kane adds Brass, Bass, and violin .... yes violin, throughout the song. I can name countless other producers who do sample and have incredible musical talent. Your stereotyping hip hop through a black and white lense
@GroovyColouredLove im not trying to change your mind, im just trying make you understand where im coming from ... if not ... thats okay .... Hip Hop sampling started by Djs in the late 70s when they took a song they liked from one record ... and mixed it with drum breaks from another ... since then it has evolved , for the better or worse.
@GroovyColouredLove if you steal something, you don't pay for it..you have to get clearance & the artist, or whoever owns the rights, gets paid, not stealing. artists who are sampled acquire a larger fanbase as a result.i go back & wanna hear the original & listen to other songs by that artist, or at least purchase the original if its good.more $ for the artist.some sampling is NOT creative, its the exact same song, tho when done right, its creative & opens u up to both the new & the old!
pisses me off that Jay-z keeps harping on about the rap scene getting old. So what is his answer. Rip off a jazz song and call it different. Truth is DOA is repetitive both structurally and thematically (yeh we get it Jay-z your the original grandmaster). If his idea of evolving was to yap on about how original he is over the backdrop to jazz then he doesnt get it. Kanye is the evolution maybe. DOA is just filler to this song, and wouldnt mean a damn thing without it. Still like him tho.
would any of you have known who janko nilovic was if no id didnt sample him? and did you know janko was very happy someone brought his music back this way?
i hope a larger chunk of the royalty from my purchase of "D.o.A" went to this guy instead of Jay-Z/No ID. Both songs are great... but there's sampling... and then there's dropping the key a full tone and pressing "play"...
What amazing music. Is there any other music out there of this style? I looked up other music by the artists, and none of it compared stylistically or quality-wise. Can anyone help me? I'm fairly foreign to this type of music.
@ragobiscuit To be fair, I have no problem with artists copying other artists. I have a problem with how artists copy other artists. Literally copy + paste. Jay-zs producers made no effort to use the sample so that it actually was a cohesive and I don't know if you noticed how reptitve the song structure is. Copy, paste, copy, paste. How many times must the story begin if you're rewriting history without a pen? Apparently as long as needed to produce a song long enough for a radio single.
Ok it seems No ID ampled the whole tune but he's picked the correct break beats and that seems the easy part....the hard part is finding these tunes in the first place. All credit to Janko on the original composing, its a great tune and without the hip hip producers reinventing it and releasing it for Jay, then I dont think I would have even have heard of this dude. I dont know what that says about the music industry but thats a story for another blog board
if you think sampling in rap is easy/crap/lazy... listen to something like Dj Shadow... without sampling there probably wouldn't be any Hip Hop music.
who ever says "anyone can sample" is a fool. I agree anyone could chop up a song and there for "sample" it, but to make it into a DOPE track isn't something anyone can do. I think No ID did a SICK job of sampling this track. And whats the problem of sampling, the original artist to have there track sampled and rapped over by Jay Z, i would personally be SO JOLLY (lol) if jay z wanted to rap and sample one of my tracksss. Sampling is a good thing.
just cause your an audio engineer dont mean u know shit about sampling an makin beats.any true hiphop fan is gonna read the the inside of the cover n check where the sample is from anyway...most people who listen to hiphop now r fuckin sheep anyway and dont care where the sample is from which sucks but thats just how it is nowadays...
@JayRocFly "and ma nigga choping and looping takes NOO TALENT at ALL, and i know im an audio engineer" I was agreeing with you til this point. Then you fucked it all up with a sweeping comment like that.
Remove head from arse immediately, you'll get an infection, nasty habit.
@glimmung123 just cause your an audio engineer dont mean u know shit about sampling an makin beats.any true hiphop fan is gonna read the the inside of the cover n check where the sample is from anyway...most people who listen to hiphop now r fuckin sheep anyway and dont care where the sample is from which sucks but thats just how it is nowadays...
DOA (which can in fact be found on iTunes) is not a very good song. The production is terrible. To sample a song is one thing, I don't care, plenty of good songs have been sampled to produce better songs. But this is not an example. You can't just loop your favorite part of a song over and over again and rap over it. That's not how it works. Musical phrases need context. There is no context to be found in DOA.
I agree with you. I myself sample but I chop my samples to the extent that you won't recognize it. But to be honest not every sample is meant to be chopped. I mean you never know, sometimes you find a sample that sounds so dope as is, you don't even want to change it to much.
@mrbabymonkey blues, soul, rock, jazz artists have all drawn inspiration from artists that predated them, they sometimes outright copied them. why is it different now?
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this is great. I admit I found it via jayz, whom I hate, but I will also say as soon as I heard the song by jayz I rushed to find out who it was sampled by. I was pretty sure his ass didn't make it.
let me tell who's made justin bieber is made as an artist.
and if ur more critical so was usher, so was chris brown, so was bow wow, people even say hova was made they say the game was made what about rihanna damn can go all day whit this shit. people is ignorant hiphop aint streethop
drake is a good artist album so far gone some songs yeah mayb waynes involved not much a few but if u lookin at it like that. every artist that starts out new is influenced or even wrote by his producers or his label bosses.
what so cuzz drake aint from the streets or aint reppin the streets hes not hiphop?
hiphop is universal its roots go back to the story tellin verses back in west center africa were 80% of the black people race is from. u aint gotta rap about the streets to be hiphop u gotta rap about whats real tellin it like it is not how it was.
you sound stupid longluvedrappersDrake and wayne are probably the last hip hop artist of my generation. you must a teenager to say some dumb shit like that lol.dont know real hip hop when you hear it
@ssjmysticgohan how can you consider drake real hip hop? he's not from the streets nor does he represent the streets in anyway, and he aint even have to work hard for his fame as a rapper, he was a famous actor from the jump, and it aint real hip hop when you taking verses from your boss either, hear lil wayne perform misunderstood and den hear money to blow, SAME EXACT VERSES, lil wayne writes for drake, drake is just a puppet to sell records. he aint real.
@AssholePatrol No I.D. produced this and yeah it was a dope find...wish more cats producing wold make like a lot of the mid 90's greats and start flipping that Psych-Soul man...tons of great sounds and drums
that's just a fucking lazy dissemination of what some people have elevated to an art.
D.O.A cuts up the sample, re appropriates it for his own ends. Hip hop contains the best lyricists, they rely on their dexterity (at least the east coast) but there's such a mass saturation of mediorce to poor imitations of 'hip hop'. As they said below, search it out.
Use Nas - Illimatic as a starting point, cause it doesn't get much better.
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. But saying hip hop has the best lyricists really boggles my mind. Unless you are ok with the big egos and mysoginy.
I think an artist should be free to express himself but they are just misusing this right.
And I never believed dexterity, be with an instrument or with your voice, is synonym of good art. The guy can sing 2 or 100 words/ a second or play 1 or 100 notes. That's not what's important.
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Listen to real rappers, not the radio.
Rhyming every syllable you rap for a whole verse and still delivering a message is a much harder feat than playing a guitar solo and yet many rappers can do that.
Is Jay-Z a real rapper? As we are discussing in a music video he sampled, I assume you like his music (I like some of it too). And sorry but the guy's lyrics are awful egotrips.
But that's not the point. I agree rhyming every syllable like they do is hard but try composing something like "In the Space". Having skill to perform is excellent but talent to compose a good song from the scratch is a different matter.
@DirtyF94, I don't know about that mate. I do both - and that's a pretty vague general statement. Like you wanna play me a guitar solo over John Coltrane's Giant steps - I think that's much harder than creating an impressive rhyme.
Check me out if you like: Jamil Kayin "Life Is Sweet"
BTW. If you do decide to check that out - you should know that I am rhyming aanndd playing the guitars and banjo (which you might not hear in the mix) and I produced the track.
It's time to wake up to "chemtrails". Search for it. This is important. It's a secret program. I filmed it myself. Check "Dont talk about the weather". Wake others!
Ah, the old sampling is stealing argument again.....
So all they did was chop and repeat a couple of sections, this very act is creation, recontextualizing the content for a modern audience that was not intended by the original creators of the piece.
this tune is sick. DOA is sick. Half the cats here wouldn't have watched this without it having been sampled by such a big artist.
Careful that y'all don't fall off those high horses now.....
@glimmung123 You have a good point man. It is a form of creation. Yet, when the majority of his songs are all sampled from older songs, that's not creative at all. He finds music he thinks the majority of his listeners would have never heard of before, and he does it well. Look at Jay z's songs. I GUARANTEE the MAJORITY of his songs use large samples from older tunes.
@glimmung123 its cool to sample i just hate when they sample and put their names all over the producer credit, it fools the audience into thinking that u ORIGINATED the idea of the production, and thats not cool, and ma nigga choping and looping takes NOO TALENT at ALL, and i know im an audio engineer
@JayRocFly if it takes no talent then why don't u jus go ahead and make a mil with a beat for jay z rather than bitchin on utube? ain't that easy now is it?
hey.. nothing wrong with that - but there is a lot better examples of remixing - ie De La Soul, NWA. etc where at least the tempo has been slowed down. effects put on it. several different songs mixed into create one.
Jay-z took one song - cut it up and put "hey hey hey good by" over the top of it.
i give him all the "kudo's" in the world for the idea - but any music reviewer/critic would give this a bad review.
@drbyatch The point of DOA was for it to sound as low-fi and crappy as possible. He was trying to point out that even with a shitty sounding song, people would buy it and like it, because it was making a musically political statement (by this I mean a statement about trends within the current music scene). The way he did it served his purpose.
I couldn't agree more, I always compare it to Painting a Picture verses Taking a picture with a camera...the artist who can paint is very talented, but the person who comes along with an entirely different vision for something that exists is just as talented...I look at it like that...in rock and jazz music, you'd see artist "Quote" lines from other songs, in sampling, you are simply "quoting" or 'Citing" a performance...
if anything sampling brings more fame to the song sampled so everyone should stop bitching...even though Daft Punk we strong already "Stronger" by Kanye West made them stronger...Daft Punk claimed it themselves so it ends up being better for the artist.
This is one of the best pieces of music that has ever been recorded, the complete feeling of the track is superb, an amazing melody and awesome sounds.
Funny how Jay-Z says "No ID on the track" where as he actually should have said "Janko Nilovic & Dave Sucky on the track" Kanye has no reason to proclaim himself as a genius the way he does if all he does is chop the song and loop it. Kanye still knows shit about music composition and music theory. Rappers are just lucky their listeners are ignorant uninformed sheep.
nice way to generalise the mindset of an entire fanbase. the whole foundation of rap was rapping over disco music, which turned out to be more popular than just spoken word rapping. chop the song and loop it, sure, jay-z is a rapper thats what they do, or were you under the impression that writting lyrics have nothing to do with music?
You're right. I generalized a whole genre, but rightly so. Look at all the rappers out now, their lyrics go no further than a 6th grade reading level. Aside from The Roots and other artists, mainstream hip-pop is uncreative and monotonous. Rap was never meant to be about sales or selling an image. It was about activism, unity, creativity and freedom of expression. You can't say you're a genius, as Kanye says, and just "paraphrase" other people's work.
look up lupe fiasco, q-tip, mos def, j cole and jay electronica and tell me their lyrics don't go further than a 6th grade reading level. hell, lupe's albums should come with cliff notes with all the double entendres and metaphors that go deeper than their base meaning.
Yeah, some rappers are still doing it right, but I can possibly count them with one hand. What I'm talking about are the mainstream rappers, lil' wayne, Kanye, Jim jones, shawty lo, 50 cent etc...So tell me when was the last time you saw a Mos Def video on tv? When was the last time Talib Kweli made a BET appearance? They're all underground, and a handful of hip-hop fans are listening to them compared to the amount of fans lil'wayne has.
actually mos had a video out this summer, but thats beside the point. it seems that your gripe is with the general public and not rappers individually. the general public decides whats hot, so that's what plays. it's a shame that people continue to support the dumbed down rap (not hip hop) and not open up their ears to the real shit. but that goes back to your 6th grade comment, because really, most people aren't intelligent enough to search for and appreciate the good stuff.
@msattiew agreed entirely. especially Jay electronica. Genius. And even jay-z. People don't even really get J. But if you dissect his rhymes, he always references some off the wall stuff thats really ill.
try sampling then come back here, the better you can chop a sample and make it different then the original sample, the better of a producer you are. Its not easy
Its not stealing if they pay royalties, which i'm sure Kanye took care of. chill out, if anything, this guy gets to hear his song now more than ever. Its an awesome song with an awesome rapper
no i.d. just did a nice job of chopping it u he didnt really do much producing but nevertheless the beat is still cold.....wow he only took out the xylos hahaha
way to just jack the song, god damn. At least add something to it. I love No I D but my goodness....straight jacked. Might as well say produced by Janko and Dave.
Man, I'm shocked on how minimum work was put on No I.D.'s track. He just grabbed a few parts of the song and put them together and looped them... That shit can be done on e-jay. But hey, I like the track, so I guess kudos to him for makin a big tune out of minimum effort
does anyone know where i could get alto sax sheet music for this? Thanks a lot :)
Indiekid1995 2 months ago
Where did you get the drums for this?
contactkeithstack 3 months ago
JAY Z DIDNT SAMPLE THIS.....Why do people say the rapper sampled the beat....the PRODUCER did....and the producer of this track was No I.D ..only a few rappers make there own beats
PdubzCrew 6 months ago 7
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@PdubzCrew im sayin No I.D is a crazy sampler
fresh224ful 5 months ago
I can see why JayZ sampled this
Jaffet1990 6 months ago
Fire!!!!!!!!!!
HIMisILove 6 months ago
magnifique janko!!!!
lisa09ely 7 months ago
I sample many songs and i just finished sampling Ahmad Jamal-Dialogue, and the original always sounds better than the sample, N.O. I.D. didnt copy he took the part he liked the best and looped it.
a2zspaceb2g 7 months ago
It's sampling man just enjoy ! and they're both great records, shxt acting like any of you made the tracks
010DA 7 months ago
I'm sorry, but D.O.A. doesn't sample this...it outright copies it. Wow.
neptunefan 7 months ago 2
I've never heard of this artists, but I love this song.
kellytaylor407 8 months ago
why are people acting like jay-z made the beat like hes the one that produuced if you gonna blame somebody blame no id eventho its not stealing im sure they got permission all jay-z does is raps he not the one going through old records
slim5poppa 8 months ago
let's make this perfectly clear. Nobody is stealing anything. When you sample music you have to get it cleared which means whoever owns the rights to the song has to agree and sign off on it being used. You think Jay-Z is millionaire he is, is really stealing music hoping he doesn't get sued??...BUMMD
BumDavisCT3 8 months ago 3
Hi guys ! ^^
Janko Nilovic is my grand father !
He's one of de greatest artist of jazz !!
You know that, jay-z has taken In the space ( the new D.O.A) to him !
In fact, he's taken an other song to Janko Nilovic!
Maybe, someday, he will be able to work with him, it could be great, for him like for me ! ... I'm a fifteen year old musician ...
94Charly94 9 months ago
@94Charly94 Sampled, not 'taken' It's not like it was stolen or something
arup02 8 months ago
A good news !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Janko Nilovic's got his personnal facebook !
You got to go and see that !!
94Charly94 8 months ago
sampling means stealing
GroovyColouredLove 9 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove you clearly no nothing about hip hop ...
ledee11 9 months ago
@ledee11
I am a musician not hip hop. I'm proud to say it too.
GroovyColouredLove 8 months ago
@ledee11
But if you can explain what sampling is other than stealing, tell me what it is.
GroovyColouredLove 8 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove its not stealing if you ask for it ... in which 90% of the time the producer does ... or they will be sued for thousands .... if not trying to change your mind becuase you would have to be a true fan of hip hop to understand ... but i see where your coming from ... Its like making a collage
ledee11 8 months ago
You are right, it is a collage of "other artist" music that really created the music.... Yet the credit does not go to them. Please answer me though why not even one of the samplers of the hip hop community can actually make their own sounds instead of collage other REAL musicians work of art?
GroovyColouredLove 8 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove please do research before making statements like that ... that is extremely false. Look at Kanye West ... he came up as a producer ... and still is one ... although 90% of his songs are sample based... look at songs like All of The Lights (which he executively produced) .... Theres not a sample in it and i for one think the music in it is great.
ledee11 8 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove also, look at hip hop producer Kane. He produced Show Goes On by lupe fiasco. It contains a guitar sample riff from a Modest Mouse song .... which both constantly credit in interviews about the song. The sample riff only makes so much of the song .... Kane adds Brass, Bass, and violin .... yes violin, throughout the song. I can name countless other producers who do sample and have incredible musical talent. Your stereotyping hip hop through a black and white lense
ledee11 8 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove im not trying to change your mind, im just trying make you understand where im coming from ... if not ... thats okay .... Hip Hop sampling started by Djs in the late 70s when they took a song they liked from one record ... and mixed it with drum breaks from another ... since then it has evolved , for the better or worse.
ledee11 8 months ago
@GroovyColouredLove if you steal something, you don't pay for it..you have to get clearance & the artist, or whoever owns the rights, gets paid, not stealing. artists who are sampled acquire a larger fanbase as a result.i go back & wanna hear the original & listen to other songs by that artist, or at least purchase the original if its good.more $ for the artist.some sampling is NOT creative, its the exact same song, tho when done right, its creative & opens u up to both the new & the old!
cosmicshame36 5 months ago
pisses me off that Jay-z keeps harping on about the rap scene getting old. So what is his answer. Rip off a jazz song and call it different. Truth is DOA is repetitive both structurally and thematically (yeh we get it Jay-z your the original grandmaster). If his idea of evolving was to yap on about how original he is over the backdrop to jazz then he doesnt get it. Kanye is the evolution maybe. DOA is just filler to this song, and wouldnt mean a damn thing without it. Still like him tho.
ashkon52 9 months ago
Sampling is NOT stealing
The artists that sample the song have to have permission to sample it from the original artist/producer who made the song.
This is crazy btw
IDK what genre
Kinda bluesy
Jay-Z brought me here
Sampling through hip hop/rap introduced me to more music
;P
TheJulian14me 9 months ago 2
i fucking love this melody. thanks to jigga i now know who that danko-guy is.
kimmokoolwtf 10 months ago
would any of you have known who janko nilovic was if no id didnt sample him? and did you know janko was very happy someone brought his music back this way?
Leonar12345 11 months ago 3
What are you talk about ?
94Charly94 9 months ago
i hope a larger chunk of the royalty from my purchase of "D.o.A" went to this guy instead of Jay-Z/No ID. Both songs are great... but there's sampling... and then there's dropping the key a full tone and pressing "play"...
records26 11 months ago
in d peduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
TheNemanja994 11 months ago
original is a beast!
DoctorSess 11 months ago
Amazing
masterbjohnson2 1 year ago
Amazing
masterbjohnson2 1 year ago
I just LOVE how the guitar turns into a saxophone 0:23
Pure magic.
dhhs91 1 year ago 17
@dhhs91 or vice versa
CottoFan1 1 year ago
Wow, who played drums on this shit? So raw, I have way less respect for the track No ID produced. (not the man himself) THOSE FUCKING DRUMS!!!!
cireonebitch 1 year ago
NO ID did a great job sampling this song
hoLocronKiller 1 year ago 2
What amazing music. Is there any other music out there of this style? I looked up other music by the artists, and none of it compared stylistically or quality-wise. Can anyone help me? I'm fairly foreign to this type of music.
AssholePatrol 1 year ago
@dephstar3000 Cos they paid for it.
glimmung123 1 year ago 3
is that an oboe r a trumpet???
PositiveCholosVibes 1 year ago
spectacular
MrOverone 1 year ago
@ragobiscuit To be fair, I have no problem with artists copying other artists. I have a problem with how artists copy other artists. Literally copy + paste. Jay-zs producers made no effort to use the sample so that it actually was a cohesive and I don't know if you noticed how reptitve the song structure is. Copy, paste, copy, paste. How many times must the story begin if you're rewriting history without a pen? Apparently as long as needed to produce a song long enough for a radio single.
mrbabymonkey 1 year ago 2
why is this song not on itunes? its epic
modelearth 1 year ago 3
Ok it seems No ID ampled the whole tune but he's picked the correct break beats and that seems the easy part....the hard part is finding these tunes in the first place. All credit to Janko on the original composing, its a great tune and without the hip hip producers reinventing it and releasing it for Jay, then I dont think I would have even have heard of this dude. I dont know what that says about the music industry but thats a story for another blog board
HuckleberryNitro 1 year ago
if you think sampling in rap is easy/crap/lazy... listen to something like Dj Shadow... without sampling there probably wouldn't be any Hip Hop music.
mgeorge733 1 year ago 4
who ever says "anyone can sample" is a fool. I agree anyone could chop up a song and there for "sample" it, but to make it into a DOPE track isn't something anyone can do. I think No ID did a SICK job of sampling this track. And whats the problem of sampling, the original artist to have there track sampled and rapped over by Jay Z, i would personally be SO JOLLY (lol) if jay z wanted to rap and sample one of my tracksss. Sampling is a good thing.
TheBakeryOfficial 1 year ago
Yeah I agree, the no ID part is kinda in poor taste.
vision09yt 1 year ago
just cause your an audio engineer dont mean u know shit about sampling an makin beats.any true hiphop fan is gonna read the the inside of the cover n check where the sample is from anyway...most people who listen to hiphop now r fuckin sheep anyway and dont care where the sample is from which sucks but thats just how it is nowadays...
strangewon 1 year ago
@JayRocFly "and ma nigga choping and looping takes NOO TALENT at ALL, and i know im an audio engineer" I was agreeing with you til this point. Then you fucked it all up with a sweeping comment like that.
Remove head from arse immediately, you'll get an infection, nasty habit.
Still tho, you made laugh, so thanks for that.
glimmung123 1 year ago
@glimmung123 just cause your an audio engineer dont mean u know shit about sampling an makin beats.any true hiphop fan is gonna read the the inside of the cover n check where the sample is from anyway...most people who listen to hiphop now r fuckin sheep anyway and dont care where the sample is from which sucks but thats just how it is nowadays...
strangewon 1 year ago
im about to rip that first part
catchfree84 1 year ago
DOA (which can in fact be found on iTunes) is not a very good song. The production is terrible. To sample a song is one thing, I don't care, plenty of good songs have been sampled to produce better songs. But this is not an example. You can't just loop your favorite part of a song over and over again and rap over it. That's not how it works. Musical phrases need context. There is no context to be found in DOA.
mrbabymonkey 1 year ago
@mrbabymonkey actually, that's how sampling started in the 70's... rapping over looped drum breaks... but i still see your point
ReLZuNo 1 year ago
@mrbabymonkey
I agree with you. I myself sample but I chop my samples to the extent that you won't recognize it. But to be honest not every sample is meant to be chopped. I mean you never know, sometimes you find a sample that sounds so dope as is, you don't even want to change it to much.
That's what happened in this case.
TheReasonableLogic 1 year ago 16
@mrbabymonkey blues, soul, rock, jazz artists have all drawn inspiration from artists that predated them, they sometimes outright copied them. why is it different now?
WALK ON BY (written by burt bacharach)
FUCK ARETHA!!! WAAAA!!! DAT SHIT IS DIONNE'S WAAA!!
FUCK YOU CAL JADER!! WAAA!! DAT SHIT IS ARETHAS!!!!!
FUCK YOU PRIMO!!! WAAA!!! DAT SHIT IS CALs!!!!
RagoBiscuit 1 year ago 2
this is great. I admit I found it via jayz, whom I hate, but I will also say as soon as I heard the song by jayz I rushed to find out who it was sampled by. I was pretty sure his ass didn't make it.
anUHkins 1 year ago
wow
mooioom09 1 year ago
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vision09yt 1 year ago
Nilovic, Sucky and JayZ know the truth. What grooves, grooves. It's that simple.
vision09yt 1 year ago 4
@vision09yt actually no ID and kanye did the sampling, jay just spit on it so...
ja0martina 1 year ago
I love original music!
sofuckingwhatable 1 year ago
these guys probably dont even know what auto-tune is
jyeahh, theyre that talented.
biggyshack 1 year ago
drums on here are crazy
senorwoohoo 1 year ago 5
Hell yeah Death of Autotune
ScorchinBeats 1 year ago 2
let me tell who's made justin bieber is made as an artist.
and if ur more critical so was usher, so was chris brown, so was bow wow, people even say hova was made they say the game was made what about rihanna damn can go all day whit this shit. people is ignorant hiphop aint streethop
01oin 1 year ago
drake is a good artist album so far gone some songs yeah mayb waynes involved not much a few but if u lookin at it like that. every artist that starts out new is influenced or even wrote by his producers or his label bosses.
01oin 1 year ago
what so cuzz drake aint from the streets or aint reppin the streets hes not hiphop?
hiphop is universal its roots go back to the story tellin verses back in west center africa were 80% of the black people race is from. u aint gotta rap about the streets to be hiphop u gotta rap about whats real tellin it like it is not how it was.
01oin 1 year ago
I can listen to this joint just as easily as I can listen to DOA...good music right here!
TalesFromTheBooth 1 year ago 5
meh, fuck. All bout underground then the shit u ppl talkn bout. lol, w/e. this song is legend tho.
mccoyca112 1 year ago
The dude in that picture looks like John Lock from the show "Lost". XD
miztah100 1 year ago 2
the dude.... Janko Nilovic ! man...
jazzypidjay 1 year ago
jay z is a real rapper....like rakim, like 2pac, like everyone...
meaning n soul is all dats matters...
the only dumb ass rappers are
drake, souljaboy, flo rida, and lil wayne...
longluvedrappers 1 year ago
fuck u man drake has meaning in his rap look at his album so far gone and if any of his songs have no meaning it was influenced by lil wayne
MJMghettohippo96 1 year ago
you sound stupid longluvedrappersDrake and wayne are probably the last hip hop artist of my generation. you must a teenager to say some dumb shit like that lol.dont know real hip hop when you hear it
ssjmysticgohan 1 year ago
@ssjmysticgohan how can you consider drake real hip hop? he's not from the streets nor does he represent the streets in anyway, and he aint even have to work hard for his fame as a rapper, he was a famous actor from the jump, and it aint real hip hop when you taking verses from your boss either, hear lil wayne perform misunderstood and den hear money to blow, SAME EXACT VERSES, lil wayne writes for drake, drake is just a puppet to sell records. he aint real.
DramaSettersTV 1 year ago
@DramaSettersTV There is a difference between Rap and Hip Hop.
mgeorge733 1 year ago
no id showed kanye how to make beats well let me say produce this is kanye's older god
LYTEYEARPRODUCTIONS 2 years ago 2
Jay Z must have a good nose to have found this.
AssholePatrol 2 years ago
It wasn't Jay-Z. The person that made the beat was a producer called "No I.D."
DirtyF94 2 years ago 22
@DirtyF94 - No I.D. and Kanye West produced DOA
supergabi21 1 year ago
@supergabi Nah i have the booklet here, Kanye didn't participate in the making of DOA
DirtyF94 1 year ago
@DirtyF94 ok...sorry for mistake
supergabi21 1 year ago
@DirtyF94 And Kanye
briansnowangel 7 months ago
@AssholePatrol No I.D. produced this and yeah it was a dope find...wish more cats producing wold make like a lot of the mid 90's greats and start flipping that Psych-Soul man...tons of great sounds and drums
BIGDO13 2 years ago
I don't dislike rap but I think it's so overrated by the fact they pick a good song sample and just sing (or speak) on top of it...
brurr 2 years ago
that's just a fucking lazy dissemination of what some people have elevated to an art.
D.O.A cuts up the sample, re appropriates it for his own ends. Hip hop contains the best lyricists, they rely on their dexterity (at least the east coast) but there's such a mass saturation of mediorce to poor imitations of 'hip hop'. As they said below, search it out.
Use Nas - Illimatic as a starting point, cause it doesn't get much better.
Carlisle46 2 years ago 3
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. But saying hip hop has the best lyricists really boggles my mind. Unless you are ok with the big egos and mysoginy.
I think an artist should be free to express himself but they are just misusing this right.
And I never believed dexterity, be with an instrument or with your voice, is synonym of good art. The guy can sing 2 or 100 words/ a second or play 1 or 100 notes. That's not what's important.
brurr 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Listen to real rappers, not the radio.
Rhyming every syllable you rap for a whole verse and still delivering a message is a much harder feat than playing a guitar solo and yet many rappers can do that.
DirtyF94 2 years ago
Is Jay-Z a real rapper? As we are discussing in a music video he sampled, I assume you like his music (I like some of it too). And sorry but the guy's lyrics are awful egotrips.
But that's not the point. I agree rhyming every syllable like they do is hard but try composing something like "In the Space". Having skill to perform is excellent but talent to compose a good song from the scratch is a different matter.
brurr 2 years ago
@DirtyF94, I don't know about that mate. I do both - and that's a pretty vague general statement. Like you wanna play me a guitar solo over John Coltrane's Giant steps - I think that's much harder than creating an impressive rhyme.
Check me out if you like: Jamil Kayin "Life Is Sweet"
jamilkayin 1 year ago
BTW. If you do decide to check that out - you should know that I am rhyming aanndd playing the guitars and banjo (which you might not hear in the mix) and I produced the track.
Peace
jamilkayin 1 year ago
can someone hook it up where you can pull this song from a blog. death to the itunes
louskys 2 years ago
holy fuck
this track is AWESOME
alfrenium 2 years ago 3
one word FLAWLESS
Controlfreek313 2 years ago
jay z goes pass a 6th grade level he goes pass any level that mos or lupe
caifh 2 years ago
DOA! very creative samples used for bp 3!!
soullady92 2 years ago
this is a good track
japankid617 2 years ago
death of autotune
MehyarTV 2 years ago 3
It's time to wake up to "chemtrails". Search for it. This is important. It's a secret program. I filmed it myself. Check "Dont talk about the weather". Wake others!
TrutherD1 2 years ago
Ah, the old sampling is stealing argument again.....
So all they did was chop and repeat a couple of sections, this very act is creation, recontextualizing the content for a modern audience that was not intended by the original creators of the piece.
this tune is sick. DOA is sick. Half the cats here wouldn't have watched this without it having been sampled by such a big artist.
Careful that y'all don't fall off those high horses now.....
glimmung123 2 years ago 102
@glimmung123 goddamn my nigga jus spoke the truth to all yall dumb mothafuckas out ther, props to glimmung123, a real nigga recognizing real things!
MellaMique 1 year ago 2
@glimmung123 GOOD Point.
bmw105 1 year ago
@glimmung123 You have a good point man. It is a form of creation. Yet, when the majority of his songs are all sampled from older songs, that's not creative at all. He finds music he thinks the majority of his listeners would have never heard of before, and he does it well. Look at Jay z's songs. I GUARANTEE the MAJORITY of his songs use large samples from older tunes.
kdhg29 1 year ago
@glimmung123 its cool to sample i just hate when they sample and put their names all over the producer credit, it fools the audience into thinking that u ORIGINATED the idea of the production, and thats not cool, and ma nigga choping and looping takes NOO TALENT at ALL, and i know im an audio engineer
JayRocFly 1 year ago
@JayRocFly if it takes no talent then why don't u jus go ahead and make a mil with a beat for jay z rather than bitchin on utube? ain't that easy now is it?
RagoBiscuit 1 year ago
@RagoBiscuit what the fuck u think im tryna do? that exactly lol
JayRocFly 1 year ago
@glimmung123
hey.. nothing wrong with that - but there is a lot better examples of remixing - ie De La Soul, NWA. etc where at least the tempo has been slowed down. effects put on it. several different songs mixed into create one.
Jay-z took one song - cut it up and put "hey hey hey good by" over the top of it.
i give him all the "kudo's" in the world for the idea - but any music reviewer/critic would give this a bad review.
drbyatch 1 year ago
@drbyatch The point of DOA was for it to sound as low-fi and crappy as possible. He was trying to point out that even with a shitty sounding song, people would buy it and like it, because it was making a musically political statement (by this I mean a statement about trends within the current music scene). The way he did it served his purpose.
guitarrhythymfool 1 year ago 3
its become apparent that stealing pays off. Wow. How did jay and no id even get away with calling this a sample!!
dephstar3000 1 year ago
@glimmung123 I So Agree With You Man. Some Of These PPL Need To Just Shut The FucK Up And Enjoy The Music Or Leave it Alone...Ya Digg?
ST8OFEMS2 11 months ago
@glimmung123
I couldn't agree more, I always compare it to Painting a Picture verses Taking a picture with a camera...the artist who can paint is very talented, but the person who comes along with an entirely different vision for something that exists is just as talented...I look at it like that...in rock and jazz music, you'd see artist "Quote" lines from other songs, in sampling, you are simply "quoting" or 'Citing" a performance...
Bean357 10 months ago
if anything sampling brings more fame to the song sampled so everyone should stop bitching...even though Daft Punk we strong already "Stronger" by Kanye West made them stronger...Daft Punk claimed it themselves so it ends up being better for the artist.
ART8AROXXX 2 years ago
This is one of the best pieces of music that has ever been recorded, the complete feeling of the track is superb, an amazing melody and awesome sounds.
dwbdwb1993 2 years ago
Funny how Jay-Z says "No ID on the track" where as he actually should have said "Janko Nilovic & Dave Sucky on the track" Kanye has no reason to proclaim himself as a genius the way he does if all he does is chop the song and loop it. Kanye still knows shit about music composition and music theory. Rappers are just lucky their listeners are ignorant uninformed sheep.
Stimuli2000 2 years ago 3
@Stimili2000
I agree with you
DTV69 2 years ago
you're a legend Stimuli2000. i like hip hop but you're one of the few people that speaks the truth when it comes to the sampling.
titus1241 2 years ago
nice way to generalise the mindset of an entire fanbase. the whole foundation of rap was rapping over disco music, which turned out to be more popular than just spoken word rapping. chop the song and loop it, sure, jay-z is a rapper thats what they do, or were you under the impression that writting lyrics have nothing to do with music?
twiistaaa 2 years ago
You're right. I generalized a whole genre, but rightly so. Look at all the rappers out now, their lyrics go no further than a 6th grade reading level. Aside from The Roots and other artists, mainstream hip-pop is uncreative and monotonous. Rap was never meant to be about sales or selling an image. It was about activism, unity, creativity and freedom of expression. You can't say you're a genius, as Kanye says, and just "paraphrase" other people's work.
Stimuli2000 2 years ago
That is exactly what D.O.A. is about. Ever read the lyrics?
dreadboystarchild 2 years ago
look up lupe fiasco, q-tip, mos def, j cole and jay electronica and tell me their lyrics don't go further than a 6th grade reading level. hell, lupe's albums should come with cliff notes with all the double entendres and metaphors that go deeper than their base meaning.
msattiew 2 years ago 4
Yeah, some rappers are still doing it right, but I can possibly count them with one hand. What I'm talking about are the mainstream rappers, lil' wayne, Kanye, Jim jones, shawty lo, 50 cent etc...So tell me when was the last time you saw a Mos Def video on tv? When was the last time Talib Kweli made a BET appearance? They're all underground, and a handful of hip-hop fans are listening to them compared to the amount of fans lil'wayne has.
Stimuli2000 2 years ago
actually mos had a video out this summer, but thats beside the point. it seems that your gripe is with the general public and not rappers individually. the general public decides whats hot, so that's what plays. it's a shame that people continue to support the dumbed down rap (not hip hop) and not open up their ears to the real shit. but that goes back to your 6th grade comment, because really, most people aren't intelligent enough to search for and appreciate the good stuff.
msattiew 2 years ago 2
@msattiew agreed entirely. especially Jay electronica. Genius. And even jay-z. People don't even really get J. But if you dissect his rhymes, he always references some off the wall stuff thats really ill.
cisco1225 2 years ago
try sampling then come back here, the better you can chop a sample and make it different then the original sample, the better of a producer you are. Its not easy
OgLoC2 2 years ago 6
Its not stealing if they pay royalties, which i'm sure Kanye took care of. chill out, if anything, this guy gets to hear his song now more than ever. Its an awesome song with an awesome rapper
samtnp 2 years ago
Jay could've rapped on this as is
grammy231 2 years ago 40
yes he could have
cabalofdemons 2 years ago
@grammy231 he basically did.
ClarenceMurphy 1 year ago
@grammy231 Lol, true
dhhs91 1 year ago
LOVE THIS SAMPLE
305steve16A 2 years ago
Sample?
'' The Producer '' from death of autotune had did nothing different then this track.
So you can actually call it stealing.
Maxmus050 2 years ago
Actually, it's called just sampling. It would be stealing if "the producer(?)" claimed that he composed the song and took all the royalties from it.
Rehtomflow 2 years ago
DOA was ill...this is illER
turpin323 2 years ago 7
agreed
cisco1225 2 years ago
lol illER
huggywertyu 2 years ago
DOA
lpncg13 2 years ago
where can i download this song at?
DJJTR3Y889 2 years ago
5* Starz!
Impressive.
FilMarck 2 years ago 2
OMG No I.D Killed this shit
dethustla36 2 years ago 6
TO SRBINE!
bagerbanjahood 2 years ago
Dr. Dre uses these kind of songs for his beats also. Samples from the Next Episode are taken from David McCallum - The Edge.
MrMarcelKatwijk 2 years ago
I think even the most unexperienced sample hunter knows that.
dus bedankt dat je je wijsheid met iedereen wil delen:P
danscheer 2 years ago
no i.d. just did a nice job of chopping it u he didnt really do much producing but nevertheless the beat is still cold.....wow he only took out the xylos hahaha
lakers4k 2 years ago
way to just jack the song, god damn. At least add something to it. I love No I D but my goodness....straight jacked. Might as well say produced by Janko and Dave.
KillenEMsoftly 2 years ago
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kthaag2 2 years ago
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GangstaGriIIz 2 years ago
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sirgarethjames 2 years ago
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this is so amazing!
mastamase 2 years ago
this is great, no i.d. is great this song is great. nice find! this made me smile. love good samples
chadwickjones40 2 years ago
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lukenadolny 2 years ago
damm! i love this track, especially wit DOA
Toasttothefool 2 years ago 2
his is awesome. Great music stands the test of time.
cabalofdemons 2 years ago
Man, I'm shocked on how minimum work was put on No I.D.'s track. He just grabbed a few parts of the song and put them together and looped them... That shit can be done on e-jay. But hey, I like the track, so I guess kudos to him for makin a big tune out of minimum effort
kensaye1 2 years ago 2
I completely agree
ckdiesel 2 years ago
awesome maaaan!
Vampkiid09 2 years ago
Shit the sample better than DOA lol
GIFinest05 2 years ago 6
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Masud 2 years ago
good sample thats all i got to say
CAW118 2 years ago 3
sick son...got that 70's P phunkadelic.groove...mad craysi
RepublikaMExicano 2 years ago
shitz incredible.
OmEgAoMeN90 2 years ago
Is it bad that I like this more than I like Jay-Z doing it on D.O.A.? I mean, that song is great. but this is gold.
jesusofraleigh 2 years ago 2
Well, it's basically the same song on D.O.A. except Jay-Z has a totally sick rap over it.
Nintendogsmaster3 2 years ago
Good rap but the chorus is terrible, ironically he really could have done with auto-tuneing his vocals cos they are waaaaay out of key.
tobietera 2 years ago
I believe that's why he's singing bad because he doesn't want rap music to have melody?
jesusofraleigh 2 years ago 5
or to emphasis how theres no autotune and he sounds bad just like all other artists would if they didnt use autotune..to show the purity fo his music
RedzTV 2 years ago
Lets face it, he's a rapper, who cares if he can't sing, when he can rap like he does!
ZGP1992 2 years ago 2
itz not suposed 2 b sang professionally wtf? :S
OmEgAoMeN90 2 years ago
thats the point, hip hop is not meant to be sung like any other genre, it is not meant to be autotuned, thats why he sings it so bad, intentionally,
myndwork 2 years ago 2
He sings bad, but at least it's his real voice.
zonedout245 2 years ago
that is probably the most retarded thing i have ever heard.
obviously, it sampled it.
jjfriedberg 2 years ago
No crap, Sherlock. But if you listen to the song you'll hear most of it in D.O.A.
That's all I'm saying, idiot.
Nintendogsmaster3 2 years ago
I know.
jjfriedberg 2 years ago
yea man this is bad ass
STATUSthesleepers 2 years ago
OMG No ID did nothing on this beat but if it was not 4 him. i would have never heard this song XD
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