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  • DID YOU NOT READ YOUR BIBLE? You say the new jerusalem is not an actual city when god himself gave the dimensions of the city. He said on each gate there will be the name of one of the 12 tribes. The city is made of pure jasper and gates of pure pearl. Please don't be fooled! Read the bible and repent PLEASE! The Truth calls out to you!

  • @Ziggyflavel1 Thank you for posting. God is not concerned with gold, pearl, jasper, and such. Revelation is not literal. It is meant to be interpreted from other scriptures, mostly the Old Testament. Can you not see all the correlations of scripture in the video? Lastly, please go to bibleknowledgeonline and read the article entitled The New Jerusalem. Please at least look at this perspective. I know yours inside and out as I studied and was a futurist for over 10 years. GB

  • @mtzion211 So you're telling me that the city of Jerusalem isn't literal when Revelation 21 clearly gives detail of the city walls and the make of Jerusalem? I think you need to re-read your bible. God doesn't lie.

  • @Ziggyflavel1 Yes that is what I am telling you. Do you not see the symbolism compared with mostly the OT. The promise of Isaiah is that the Church would be born. Gates of praise and walls of salvation...read it for yourself. The NT states clearly that the church is built on the foundation of the 12 apostles..Jesus Christ is the chief cornerstone. Ever notice that the New Jerusalem is as a "bride" adorned for her husband. We are kings and priests now...read it for yourself in Revelation.GB

  • @Ziggyflavel1 Please also go to bibleknowledgeonline. com  Please read the articles....It will not take you but a few minutes. I have studied many books for many years and believed that the New Jerusalem was literal and physical. I believed and studied that for over 10 years....Jack Van Impe books, John Hagee, Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, and the list goes on. Please listen and go read the articles. I promise that I know your point of view....please at least take the time to know mine. GB

  • @Ziggyflavel1 John seen the new Jerusalem coming down i think there will be a new Jerusalem.

  • LOL LOL LOL LOL

  • We will use the bible and the bible only... There is your problem.

  • but only his elect the righteous the true followers of our father, will be aloud into this physical kingdom just as it says in Rev. I would hope that you would remove this video all together for obvious reasons. We will physically inherit this kingdom and a restored earth, The meek shall inherit the earth and reside in our fathers Kingdom just as the bible teaches. It is so very important that you understand these truths and that you do not spread false teachings for others to be deceived.

  • continued from below,  I love ya brother but don't teach lies, don't take away from the gospel of the Kingdom as most religions have done/and continue to do. ( Math 23 ) Start reading the scriptures and let the holy spirit/comforter show you these things(John 14:26). Just as Jesus will return as a physical King, so shall the same Kingdom/ physical Kingdom, same Kingdom Jesus preached about throughout, will indeed return Physically as described in revelations 21/22, physical people will reside

  • @fisvii As far as the teaching of lies, I could make that same argument about the literal futurist doctrine. Difference is that I have walked in your shoes of belief but you have not walked in mine. At least look into the possibilities that you might be wrong.

  • @fisvii "Start reading the scriptures..."

    It is rather obvious that the author of the video has not only read the Bible but is utilizing it exclusively for purposes of interpretation.

  • @fisvii: I agree with you on the physical nature of the New Jerusalem.

    There is an inward or spiritual kingdom which Christ is currently setting up in the hearts of men. However, the New Jerusalem under discussion here is a literal city based on its description. The use of dimensions and specifications should indicate to the reader of God's word the fact that this is literal and can be measured in feet and inches.

  • Also the earthly establishment of this city is marked by the abolition of crying, pain and death. One therefore, only needs to ask himself:

    1. Do I still have pain in my life?

    2. Is there ever a need to cry?

    3. Is death in any form still a possibility for me?

    If yes is the answer to any of the above questions then the idea that the New Jerusalem is here and now is a deception no matter how good it sounds.

  • @TruthSeekersChannel Thank you for posting. Revelation is not literal. Is a 7-headed, 10-horned beast going to literally come out of the sea? Do you really believe that there will literally be giant pearly gates? I mean no disrespect but it is up to God to show you the truth on this matter. Please go to bibleknowledgeonline and read The New Jerusalem article. Many scriptures there. Pain, crying, literal death---this is all symbolic and spiritual as the rest of Revelation. GB

  • @mtzion211 Isaiah 65:25 God looking forward to Eden restored states "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD". I submit therefore that the Bible of the Protestant Reformation does not support in any way your idea that we are living in the earth made new.

  • @TruthSeekersChannel Pray that God shows you the truth. GB

  • @mtzion211 Furthermore, your newfound paradigm requires that good and evil are co-eternal. Therefore, Eden restored will never be a literal possibility in your belief-system. However, in Ezekiel 28:13-19 God speaking to Lucifer explains in awful detail his final destruction and the eradication of sin/evil from His universe.

  • @TruthSeekersChannel Lucifer is another subject.

  • @mtzion211 In Daniel 2 the stone which was cut out without hands is the Kingdom of God which arrives after the divided Roman Empire. To declare that the Kingdom of God is here and was here since Jesus walked on Earth is to say that the stone arrived prior to the breakup of Rome and; therefore, to dismiss Nebuchadnezzar's dream and Daniel’s interpretation even though he stated that the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

  • @TruthSeekersChannel Jesus Himself stated that the Kingdom of God is not physical. How do we get around that?

  • @mtzion211 The Bible is only relevant if taken in its entirety as the infallible word of God.

  • @TruthSeekersChannel We will have to agree to disagree. GB...I could debate this with you but honestly I have learned not to argue on here. God will have to show you. Go to Bibleknowledgeonline and read the articles.

  • continued from below. The 1500 sq mile city is said to be the same in length, width, and height, Jesus said John 14:2 "In my fathers house there are many mansions, if it were not so I would have told you. Also go back and reread all the things Jesus taught about, they will come down to same thing "Kingdom of God" which is currently in heaven/space, where jesus is currently residing. This kingdom will only reside on this earth after all unrighteousness is taken away after 1000 year reign.

  • @fisvii You are not seeing Revelation from the right perspective. Did you see all the scriptures that show the New Jerusalem to be the Living Church?

  • @fisvii I used to believe this. It is not the truth. The Kingdom of God is here now! As Jesus stated, the Kingdom of God will not come with observation. It is not physical. Jesus is the King of kings. True Christians are kings and priests NOW. You are missing the golden streets, crowns, etc. that are here now. You are not seeing with your spiritual eyes and seeking understanding through physical interpretation. This is not correct. GB

  • @mtzion211 you should be very careful when you make a video of such things, especially if you are wrong. Go and read the very end of Rev 22. Don't be the one who takes away the truth from the lost sheep. Truth is the New Jerusalem is physical, Jesus went to prepare a place for his elect. Is Jesus going to return again Physically or only "spiritually" know that the kingdom was measured by a mans measurement 12000 furlongs, furlong = 1/8 of mile(1/8 of 5280 feet) 12000/8= a 1500 sq mile city.

  • @fisvii Thank you for posting and your concern. I was a futurist for over 10 years. I am convinced of the teaching that the New Jerusalem is the Church that is now. Revelation is not to be taken literal. GB

  • Of course, in reality, Jerusalem is a third world shit-hole benighted by religious ignorance. Suicide bombers, expansion of territory by Jewish fanatics, walls dividing people and angry Muslims - all is the name of god! This is what we have after 2000 years of monotheism, superstition and ignorance.

  • @masala505 Thank you for posting. in reality this video has nothing to do with politics or modern day. This video is about the truth and understanding of the New Jerusalem, the Church that now is, of Revelation 21 and 22. God bless!

  • @masala505 Thank you for posting. in reality this video has nothing to do with politics or modern day. This video is about the truth and understanding of the New Jerusalem, the Church that now is, of Revelation 21 and 22. God bless!

  • The New Jerusalem (Zion) is the bride, the Lamb's wife, not individuals. She is a TRUE PERSON, The Church of Philadelphia (Rev 3: 10-12). The Lamb indicates she is the wife/bride of the Son of God who was slain. She is the daughter of Zion (Zec 2: 10; Jn12: 15; Mt 21: 5). Song of Sol Gives her account with the Lamb. She will be the mother of all God's Children (Gal 4:26). The present churches are all FAKE antiChrist church & God is calling people out of her (Rev 18:4). Zion is the true Church.

  • this is so boring

  • Beautiful.

    Just beatiful.

    Amen

  • First, I want to say that I regard postmillennialists as fellow brothers in Christ---not enemies. My method for interpreting scriptures is gramatical-historical. When the scriptures use symbols, they always have a literal meaning. The text itself has to define what those symbols mean. Keep in mind that the Jews regard the messianic prophicies as allegories too! They do not regard the parts speaking of Christ birth as God becoming a man as literal. Something to consider.

  • Did Jerusalem ever have a great sea port as described in Rev 17 and 18? Was it ever a center for world finance? Has it ever been home to peoples of all nationalities? Did it ever have representatives from governments from all over the world involved in the govering of the world? In John's day, was Jerusalem in a strong position militarially----90-96 AD?

    What city does Christ return to in the Book of Zechariah? Has Jerusalem ever had domionion over all the kings of the earth? New York?

  • @The5050Bob You are seeing everything literally and not metaphorically/spiritually. Revelation is to be understood spiritually and by using other scripture for correct understanding. When the Bible only is used this is a fairly easy one to understand. It is only when we inject the physical that we go off track. Don't wait for that seven-headed ten-horned beast to appear......it is metaphorical. God bless!

  • the kingdom of heaven is not the kingdom of god.one is for the earth....jewish.....the other .....wait for it....................THE CHURCH.

  • @bubzzc0la01 There already is a new kingdom. Right here right now.

  • @mtzion211; Please can you advise us, how careful can we be to see the golden street ! I have tried everything, all I can see is, hard rock pavement. And also, He said that, He was going to prepare a place for His followers... ie mansion ect.. He is going to build these mansions in our heart so that we can live in our heart/house ? Jesus also said: I have to go so that, you can also go where I`m going. Was he going to his own heart or a physical place called heaven !

  • Sorry brother, the Bible is quite clear that there is a REAL Kingdom to come. the Bible references that you used, clearly were not refering to this current sinful earth in it's present state. When Jesus returns to receive His true followers, He will take them to that place. This sinful earth CANNOT be the Holy City as described in the Word of God.

    God Bless you...Keep studying.

  • @paulrichards009 You miss the truth and I cannot help you. Jesus was a king. Literally? No, spiritually! His kingdom also is not of this world. The kingdom of God is within you. You look for a literal kingdom and miss the one that Jesus came to establish 2,000 years ago. Keep looking with your physical eyes but you will not see it. Jesus also states that the kingdom comes without observation. Jesus continually tried to get people to see with their spiritual eyes. Guess it is the same.

  • I think that he is mormon

  • @ada2step I am non-denominational. You will find what I believe may be also believed in pieces of different faiths but that does not mean I believe everything that faith believes. You know I must be non-denominational when I have been thought to be just about every denomination under the sun. :)

  • aww i love this .. thankyou so much... for your teachingz

  • @sweetgirlhere1 Thank you and God bless!

  • The New Springtime is approaching quickly ... take heart and live in HIS TRUTH and not your own beliefs that make you COMFORTABLE here ... it's ETERNITY that really matters ... God bless.

    He IS truly PRESENT in the Tabernacle ... this IS how HE remains with us till the end of time. You may accept or reject this Truth, but it will nevertheless remain TRUE regardless of your acceptance/rejection.

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  • The Catholic Church has been around since Jesus ascended into heaven. Through God The Catholic Church brought the world the Bible. In John 6 Jesus tells us to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood. Jesus TELLS US that if you do not do this you will not have life in you. In John 6:66 many of Jesus' followers leave him because his teachings are too hard to understand. I tell you that Jesus is still on Earth as he always has been as he said he would be. He is in all the Tabernacles of the world.

  • To @one mazzaroth:

    In reply to your emails:

    Get the mind of Christ first.

    

  • THE BIBLE DOESNOT SAY THAT THE NEW YERUSALEM COMES DOWN TO EARTH AS A SQUARE BLOCK..!!

    You might scare people with that strange image [at 0.52 seconds].

    You might mean it well, but it is not the Truth.

  • @sach269 Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare (GREEK: foursquare 1.) quadrangular, square), and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed , twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

    It is how it is decribed in the book of revelation. Unless, you can find another description somewhere else according to the bible.

  • To @1Mazzaroth

    I understand that you read the Holy Word with your own eyes and with

    your own mind.

    You should seek G-d's mind and G-d's will first, as they are higher than from human-beings.

    Then He will tell you that your interpretation is not correct.

    I emphasize to you and to all those who watch this video and other video's with the same wrong statements, that G-d's Word DOESNOT SAY A WORD of such an ugly block coming down from Heaven.

    G-d's Kingdom and G-d's City are in His Own People.

  • @sach269 You were given scripture, verse and greek terminology. There is a revelation behind why the city is described as such. Sorry, I didnt write revelation 21:16 and you shouldnt try to re-write it. I come across many people that try to change the word, instead of asking God for the revelation of it.. You will have to take that up with God and tell him to change it because it sounds ugly to you. God let me know, you cant hear his audio voice. You got THE KINGDOM IS IN HIS PEOPLE, right.

  • @sach269 God, not G-d.

  • To @0Beautifulbrutality0

    ... you keep on playing?

  • @sach269 What do you mean?

  • new jerusalem?!?! i like my old one and i wont give it up for nothing!!!!

  • Jerusalem ground zero.....Swear not by Jerusalem Jesus said: for it is the city of the Great King.

  • wait a minute, how can the new Jerusalem be here when Jesus hasn't come for the second time?

  • @b00gam4n Because the preachers have been preaching the distorted version of the second coming and Antichrist for years. They have mixed carnal (earthly) knowledge and their own understanding to the word of God. Preachers have made the book of revelation a carnal (earhtly) event. He who has an ear let him hear what the SPIRIT is saying, not what the CARNAL is saying.

  • LOL! New city coming out of the heaven?!? People really believe this??? Are they kids?

  • @Tomekwinxs This is a kingdom that only a few can see out many believers and for sure the world wont be able to see it.

    Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

    This is a spiritual kingdom that comes within the soul of them that has suffered much tribulation.

    Acts 14:22 and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

  • @1Mazzaroth Well hell! You better get on top of that!! What tribulation are you going to experience today?? Better be good b/c you don't want your God upset! I'm off to worship my invisible chocolate bar!

  • Yahshua ( Whom you comonly refer to as Jesus ) is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. If you doubt. Do as cmd4christ sugests. Pray and ask him to reveal Himself to you. Once you accept him then the real battle begins. You will have to give up the things of this world. The Spritual and the Eartly are like Oil and Water. They do not mix. There are many things to help you OVERCOME. Seek and you will find the answers.

  • @VelvetPacjam

    Can you perhaps tell me what you mean by the "things of this world" please?

  • @SolaufeinSA carnal and selfish things: anger for no reason (that is, hatred), fornication, adultery, prostitution, filthy and lewd conduct, deceitfulness, greed, wrath, envy, cowardice (in that you do not deny Him when asked or persecuted), debauchery, cheating people, stealing, dishonesty, lovelessness... basically, sin, which is lawlessness. Galatians 5:19-21 and 1 John (whole epistle)

    While we were sinful, we are saved by God's good grace, but remember Romans 6:1,2

  • @krononomikon

    I don't know if anger for no reason exists or if that's an accurate definition of hatred. Forgive me for being so blunt but how am I supposed to walk around with a boner 24/7? I want to know what I'm supposed to do about that.. it's annoying and distracting. I can see why attachment to "forniaction" and lust and placing value on it is bad, I see the uglyness of much of it but at the same time I'm wondering what to do with my frustrations and if it really is all bad. Any tips?

  • @SolaufeinSA Well not for no reason whatsoever, of course not - there's always a reason... but I mean without just cause. Like for instance, say someone hates Sicilians just because they're Sicilians, but there's no justifiable reason, you know? Sicilians may have double-crossed them in the past, but that's not everyone, right? :)

    I was caught in sexual frustration for many years. It took a long time for me to build up to cry out with my whole heart. Once I gave up and prayed fully, He heard

  • @krononomikon I think the point is that if you really want to do well with all of it, keep trying... If you try your best, you can't be blamed. If it is too much to bear, bring it before God, because it's written that He won't put on you any more than you can bear, and also that God's commands are not burdensome. Remember, Jesus said to watch and pray that you don't enter into temptation, and it's a tough time sometimes, but He will help us overcome :) God loves us

  • New Jerusalem had to come through Christ, because the old Jerusalem was corrupted and became a harlot and guilty of stoning the Prophets, rejecting even Christ. The New Jerusalem is us the church and no longer the old Jerusalem. We are his bride and to become one with him and bring forth children unto God through our husband, Christ. Keep preaching brother, your on the right track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!

  • Whoa...just read a comment here...that said WE r going to receive praise like Jesus does..as the bride..as HIS church..ummm...I don't think so....God is a jealous GOD and does NOT share HIS glory with ANYONE else..especially HIS creation....and moreover...false, dumb idols...where do u get that stuff??...mtzion211????...jus saying....

  • @chicaloha I have found that arguing or debate is not usually worth my time. I cannot give you spiritual eyes to see the truth and will leave it with you.

  • @mtzion211 ...lol...I'm not debating with you...not at all...ur confused and there's nuttin to debate...if you agree with false teachers and doctrine then for sure you don't really know the bible the way GOD intends it to read....I find that alot on YouTube...people proclaiming gospel truths and when confronted with REAL TRUTH...it's all of a sudden a debate..however...I pray GOD reveal to u TRUE REVELATION FROM HIM and NOT what YOU understand GODs WORD to be. I just pray for u...that's all...:)

  • @chicaloha Can't you see the New Jerusalem coming down as a "bride" adorned for her husband? The Church is the Bride of Christ.20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Ephesians 2:

    21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

    This is all spiritual language concerning the Church.

  • @mtzion211 ...new Jerusalem and the Bride of CHRIST are 2 different things my friend...but I can already see that we (u & I) will only be going back n forth on this soooo...I will agree to disagree with u peaceably and just say that when we JESUS face to face...all truth and bible mysteries will become clear...peace be with u in MY LORD JESUS!!...God be with u! Keep u in prayer.

  • @mtzion211 ...oops...I'm meant Holy Spirit...I think u knew that though,,.lol..

  • @mtzion211 ..the gold n silver it talks about in Isaiah, Isaiah is saying that nations will contribute financially to the establishment of the rule of GOD in Jerusalem..those who oppose the messianic kingdom will be destroyed..in Isaiah 60:12..Isaiah 60:19...looks godward to the jerusalem of the NEW heaven and the NEW earth, in which GOD and the LAMB will be the everlasting light of HIS people..as stated in revelation 21:23; 22:3-5...and also Zechariah 2:5

  • @chicaloha You are wrong! Let me understand what you are saying. You say Isaiah 60 is 2,000 plus years after the 1st coming of Christ but Isaiah 61 is obviously is at the first coming of Christ. Jesus stated that to be true when He said "Today this scripture is fulfilled..." at His reading. That is the problem. You have to break up Isaiah and believe that some pieces are 2,000 after the cross and other pieces are at the 1st coming. The Lamb is NOW the everlasting Light!

  • Just curious...how bout when John gives the measurement of the city and gems and pillars with the names of the 12 tribes of Israel..a city of four square...see...I think u r a lil confused. The bride of Christ is different from the New Jerusalem....it's not the church body of Christ...we r entirely different...ok...and one more thing if I may....ur teaching of Gods kingdom right here and now...well...it almost sound like Jehovah witness doctrine?..is it?...kinda?...sorta??..hmmmmm­m....

  • @chicaloha I am non-denominational. If I happen to agree with the Jehovah witnesses on a point then so be it. I do not agree with any one denomination in its entirety. God's kingdom is here now whether you understand or see that or not. It is not a physical kingdom but a kingdom that reigns within. Jesus clearly states that the kingdom would not come with observation but that it was within you. You miss the spiritual application of this and Revelation. I cannot help. God bless.

  • @mtzion211 ...what Isaiah is saying is that this chapter prophesies that with the advent of the Messiah, the glory of the LORD would come among HIS people and many Gentiles will come to see the LIGHT. The N.T applies these verses to Jesus' anointed ministry in Galilee(mat.4-16-17) Ever since the great missionary thrust of the gospel began in the New Testament, this prophecy is being fulfilled...THAT IS WHAT ISAIAH 60 is saying my friend.

  • @mtzion211 ...Isaiah was prophesying...just as Micah prophesied about the coming of the messiah in Bethlehem...all prophesies of FUTURE events...EVENTS TO COME...but then again...u and I have wayyyyyyy different views...Gods Holy Spirit teaches me His WORD...I on the other hand can't speak for u and where u get ur knowledge from...but judging from what ur saying I have a very difficult time believing it is from the same spirit that teaches me....just saying!..peace to u

  • WE HAVE JESUS !!! WOW!!

  • @fealmor I do not want to be wrong here but your comment suggests sarcasm. There is more to this video than that. This video is really meant to help people see Revelation in a different perspective, one that I believe to be correct. Maybe you missed that. I don't know.

  • @mtzion211 ...all throughout the bible GOD has made promises to keep israel from TOTAL annihilation...and he will restore Jerusalem FULLY the way it should have always been when He returns to setup HIS kingdom here in the NEW EARTH...JERUSALEM...NEW JERUSALEM...2 different places...one in heaven o e on earth...but who am I to try an convince you...I just pray for u...I have planted the seeds and done my job to correct...now it's up to GOD to give the increase and U to wanna understand. amen!

  • more tea  vicar ?

  • The new Jerusalem is in heaven,and it will come down to the earth after the great judgement,when the new heaven and earth will be created.

  • @ChrissyFinne : then why does 2Corinthians 5:17 say "So then if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation"?

  • @urbancenturion If you look at John 3 about Nicodemus came to Jesus by night and asked Him about born again,you find the answer there.It is related to 2 Corinthias 5:17.

  • Rev. 22: 4-6)They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place." Maranatha!

  • i didn't read the bible or revelation and probably never will. I am not saying that i do not belive in higher being that created us but still this being ... i will never call it god.

  • There will be a literal New Jerusalem and it will reside on the New Earth. It is a city not built by human hands. It will be the home of all believers and there shall be no night. Also no sun or moon as God will be the light. Maranatha!

  • @ljackso no Moon ? this world/city is not for me then ;]

  • @SpeedeyFreaks : Isaiah 60:19, "No longer will you have the sun for light by day, Nor for brightness will the moon give you light; But you will have the LORD for an everlasting light, And your God for your glory. Maranatha!

  • @ljackso ...AMEN!!..that's truth right there...LITERALLY!! PRAISE GOD N BE BLESSED!!! SHALOM!!

  • @chicaloha Isaiah 60 is a present reality. Follow it through to Isaiah 61 which Jesus states was fulfilled.

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  • i do not need to watch your video's to know whats going on.you still have not answered my questions.you are answering with what you would like to hear.i also believe that alot of people read the bible and come to there own conclusions.but if you dont read revalations at all the bible still talks of thing you are not understanding,i go to my fathers place to make a room for you.mattew26-31:46 luke17-20:28he says this because they are looking for the savier and he was in front of them.read believ

  • @jdmchaos1 Ok...conversation over. I present the truth to you. It is up to you and God from there. If you do not even have the time to do a little reading to understand this perspective than there is no point. God bless you in the truth of His Word!

  • @jdmchaos1 If You Want The Truth You Will Have To Get A Copy Of The Original Scriptures.. Answer This Question If Jesus Is King How Come The Letter J Has Only Been Used For 500 years ? The Original Scriptures Are 5700 years Old ? There Was No Letter J In The Saviors NAME. You Can Google The Letter J Have Fun With This..

  • ok,i gave your site a shot.in in one of your video your showing yourself being pulled away from the brick wall.that is the exact type of stuff the enemy wants you to do,seperate so he can get you alone.i know 1 guys outlook is not going to change your mind,but explain this.in the new city when whe are with God/jesus,it explains no more sin,pain,evil,unclean words,etc?ive yet not to see this not even in church.how have whe all sinner/non sinner been judged?i have more but ran out of room. answers

  • @jdmchaos1 1st...I hope you see the evidence is in the scriptures. 2nd...I know that this does not fit your theme on Revelation. Now I will try to answer the 1st question. The problem is that you are seeing Revelation as literal when it is to be understood spiritual. Nothing indeed can enter the Church that is evil. There is a new heaven and new earth. You are new creature in Christ because of a new SPIRITUAL relationship. This is not physical. Same with the New Jerusalem. It is here.

  • @mtzion211 ...i see that you don't know how to differentiate the literal from the spiritual...a dose of the indwelling of the HOLY SPITIT to draw you CLOSE to JESUS and HIS word will so you just fine...pray for it..if your truly sincere and hungry for GOD...HE will reveal HIMSELF to u...tRUst!!...:) be loved in Jesus!!.amen!

  • @chicaloha As I said this is not worth discussing. Revelation is all spiritual. Should I await the 7 headed 10 horned beast to arise out of the sea in Revelation 13 or is that literal also? The New Jerusalem is the Church that now exists of all believers built on the 12 foundations of the apostles, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. The pearly gates are gates of salvation and the walls are walls of salvation. This is explained in Isaiah. The New Jerusalem is not literal.

  • @jdmchaos1 Kings are here now walking on golden streets. Just as Jesus was a King...we are kings now as the NT states. He is the King of kings. The Church is founded on the 12 apostles with Jesus being the chief cornerstone. You see this in the foundation of the New Jerusalem. Read in Isaiah of the timing of the day when we would receive gates of praise and walls of salvation. The New Jerusalem is the Church that now exists and is a spiritual revelation of Jesus Christ.

  • @jdmchaos1 I just checked my site. I can see that you spent 52 seconds at the site. You did not even read the article I directed you to. Have a good day but you will have to put more effort into it then that to truly see where I am coming from.

  • you are putting all your claims on that one small verse in the the bible. the bride is mostly a way of explaining the church,christians born again and doing Gods will.the new jarusalem comes after the tribulation period.revalation to me is a good thing not bad.its scary to those who have not giving there life to our lord savier.its hard to give 1or 10 verses for you to look because you are only looking to that 1 for your salvation.give certain verse and i will give my answer.god bless

  • @jdmchaos1 Yeah I believed that for about 10 years. The 7 year tribulation, rapture, abomination of desolation and the rest. It is all false. If you want to see scriptural explanation I would advise you to go to my site...bibleknowledgeonline and look at the articles section under The New Jerusalem. It is not that long but there are all the scriptural comparisons to help you see the truth about the book of Revelation. Please just take the time to look at it. Thank you.

  • wrong.you need to study the bible.less time making video's more bible study.

  • @jdmchaos1 I would like to know your opinion on the New Jerusalem. Please give me your scripture references as I have. As a bride adorned for her husband seems pretty self explanatory....not to mention all of the other scriptures I quoted. Chances are that you have a preconceived idea of what you think the book of Revelation is about and this does not fit in to your reasoning. I have studied for over 25 years the Bible and Revelation. Study alone does not bring truth or many would have it.

  • @Freelygive333 That city is here now. Kings are walking on golden streets now. The walls of salvation and gates of praise promised in Isaiah are already here as a result of Jesus. The Revelation of Jesus Christ....

  • You need a good dose of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38. Ever learning, never able to come unto the knowledge of the truth. You really need to study prophecy. You did get one word right, Blind!

  • @rossdaboss1959 ... You miss the truth and I cannot help you. You see things from a physical perspective that are meant to be understood spiritually. Many at the time of Christ had the same problem. You must be born again...Nicodemus took this literally and physically. Jesus meant this spiritually. Understanding the book of Revelation is the same. These happening are all spiritual and a result of the first coming of Christ.

  • dont say bullshit bro respekt plz

  • @lebnen143 ... I cannot help you see.

  • 2012 is going to be an intersting year

  • stupid white fuck!!

  • I'll get started on my rebuttal.

  • the New Jerusalem is a real city! The church is not the New Jerusalem it is the bride. Jesus talked about the tabernacle copied after the one in Heaven. He is our high priest just as the earthly tabernacle had a high priest, that is literal. The woman sitting on the beast while holding the cup of iniquity is not a human woman but the corrupt church, that is figurative. Streets of gold, literal, Jesus living in our hearts, figurative.

    Every eye shall see Him coming, literal.

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  • I believe the interpretation of the new jerusalem is literal just as the dimensions of noah's ark were literal. That is why dimensions of the new city are given and it almost the very last thing talked about which makes sense because where would we go during the 1000 years that Satan is bound on earth with nobody to decieve? and then it says the city decends down from heaven after that 1000 years and a new heaven and new earth are made after the judgement.

  • @FRYMAN711 .... Enlinghten me on the correct interpretation!! Easy to type garbage but hard to share your knowledge. I'll debate the topic with you in an intelligent fashion anytime but I doubt you would consider. Again, please enlighten us on your interpretation if you have one.

  • @FRYMAN711 please, im begging u to ask god to come into ur heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God bless.

  • The book of Daniel and other books of the prophets can be taught out of context, but not Revelations. Read the warning of the curse that comes for adding to or taking away from the book. God give you grace!

  • I do give tribute to your understanding of the spiritual crusade of Victory that is transpiring as we speak. I support that here in MAtthew 19:28 when Jesus speaks to his 12: "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

    Highlight the word regeneration, it jumped out at me. The world is being regenerated!

  • May the grace of God abound in our lives and his love shine through our hearts. Thank God for this opportunity to share his gospel of love over the internet so expediently where the field is exceedingly abundant and available :)

  • Furthermore, Matthew 25 = 2+5 = 7. Remember the 7th day God rested from his creation. Matthew 25:31 gives us the picture of Jesus coming in his glory sitting at his throne [resting] and in Matthew 25:34 it says the 'blessed' will receive the kingdom prepared for them. 25 = 7; 34 = 7. This is the family of God all resting together. I rest my tongue. God's word is divine Love!

    *Study the spiritual significance of the number 7, it represents perfection and fulfilment. The work is done

  • My friend, Matthew 24 = 2+4 = 6. Remember the sixth day of creation, it was a very blessed day. Now, the reverse of that is that in these times now it will be a cursed day for those who are not saved from the tribulations to come, but a very blessed day indeed for those who do escape!

  • My friends, the books of the Bible are about God's love. They are about love. The gospel is a gospel of God's love! God is love, Jesus the son of love, entering the world through John 3:16 represents the birth of love in the world! Now, touching the book of Revelations; this is the revelation of Love reigning forever and ever over it's opposition: Those things mentioned in Revelations 21:8. You do complicate the matter, the love of God deserves the greatest attention and devotion and not these.

  • My friend, do you see: we are called to love! Read the obstacles to love that we must overcome in Revelations 21:8. Preceding that we learn of those who overcame these obstacles in Revelations 21:7: "He that overcometh shall inhert all things; and I will be his God and he will be my son." And again the emphasis on how to identify sheeps: 1 John 4:16 "And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."

  • What is Jesus judging us by? It is no other than the new commandment he gave his first 12 disciples and even then the world in the scriptures of John 13:34 "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." We see this learned in Matthew 25:33-46. The sheeps and goats are now separated. The sheeps: those who followed Jesus' ways and loved one another! Those who lead lives of love! The goats: those who wandered away waywardly.

  • What will the elect, God's chosen people, escape? They will escape the final tribulations to come!!! Hellloooooo! You think all this happened for nought? Or did it not happen to give us confidence of what it is said in a certain verse that God saves his chosen people and keeps them safe from danger!!!! Matthew 24, Jesus comforts us not to be troubled and encourages us in what to anticipate and prepare for: Him coming to save us! Matthew 25 we learn of Jesus' judgement.

  • Matthew 24 and 25 give us an explicit and easy to understand reading of how to understand the foretelling of Jesus coming again and then finally his arrival in Chapter 25. Both are large books deserving our full attention. If it was not of importance it would not be given so much text by Jesus himself!

    The way you speak is like you don't expect Jesus to arrive again. First enoch was raptured, then Elijah, then Jesus. This is all a fortelling of those who will come after: the elect will escape

  • Matthew 24 speaks explicitly of the coming of Christ. Matthew 24:36 explicitly tells us that only the Father knows speaking in response to Matthew 24:35 which says: "Heaven an earh shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

    And again, before that, in Matt24:34 Verily I say unto, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

  • One last thing, remember, even Jesus said that only the Father knows when he will come again. Therefore, the more zealously and expediently we promote life works in this world the sooner God's will will be done on earth and not mine nor yours. Nor Jesus here in Luke 22:42 "Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." Yes, those who follow Christ, do suffer as he did for his sake and his Father's sake who sent him to us for us!

  • Remember, on the 7th day God rested from his work. In the same way, for as long as there is duality in our wold and opposites in conflict, and sin, and death, Jesus' work is not finished. As heir to the throne, Jesus and his servants will not stop working and rest until the enemies of Jesus and his kingdom all be destroyed. It is unto this day that we who follow Jesus seek zealously. Today our rest for us, is a rest from our own works and an inclination [rise] towards God's work. Hebrew 4:4-11

  • There IS a heaven on earth now, God's purpose inside man. This is that heaven that is upon us, even within us, God's kingdom within us, God's will in our hearts and minds. John shared his vision of a NEW heaven and earth coming unto us, even a New Jerusalem. This is the Heaven to come: That which will be God's kingdom, his purposes above ours, reigning on earth! This is God's will sealed on earth :), Revelations 22:10 Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand

  • From the beginning God's plan has been to reconcile the world in Love [Peace]. First comes war then peace. Howbeit, we have heaven and hell that we do not see waged against eachother in war. Howbeit, we have man and woman waging war against one another on earth? But then will come peace. God's plan prospered: eternal life [no death] litterally, and life in the spirit [the tree of life] opposed to life in the mind [tree of knowledge of good and evil]. For now, this all happens inside us by will.

  • You are chaffing the word with your spiritual fire! The parallel of threes. Enoch, Elijah, Emmanuel [Jesus] all taken up, a fortelling of Jesus. Adam, Abraham, all first men of God, Jesus being third and final man of God, the heir to God's kingdom. Heaven, Earth, Hell. If you cannot observe Heaven [in you] nor can you Hell. Yet, there will be a New Heaven and New Earth - this is that heaven coming down to earth that John 'saw'.. what sayest thou, that John did err and speak of Jesus in us?!!!!!!

  • My friend, I shared with you 1Cor 15:30-34 touching that resurrection that Paul spoke of. Jesus too will return again, this will be the second time in his glory, and the third time totally. Fist he came unto man in flesh, then was raised again and many did see him in his glory, then he left again, but he will return again a third time in his glory forever and this third occurrence, three, represents all is finished. Study the psiritual significance of number 3. New Jerusalem fortels a new World.

  • Surely, when the Garden of Eden is mentioned and the Tree of life are parelles to the Revelations speaking of the Tree of life and the river of life. The tree of knoweldge parelling with the lake of fire. But when the flood came physically, surely it would have taken away this Garden. So, we cannot take the passage physical only or spiritual only. When a man goeth into the woman and she doeth concieve, shall we interpret this spiritually? I would not! It is honorable to witness both now and new.

  • My friend, do not take after the ways of the Pharisees who were so spiritually superficial nor the Saducees who were so carnally consumed they could not see the spiritual sustenance of God's word and the prohets of old, even our Lord and Saviour Jesus. God not make us as angels that we should strive spiritually only, nor did he make us as animals that we should strive carnally. But God aks of us both carnal and spiritual knowledge that we may live in the two harmoniously. Male and Female.

  • Dearly beloveds! There is not a shadow of doubt in me that you are missing the full picture. The spirit cometh before the flesh. The word proceedeth before the world. Our friend MtZion is speaking of those things that are internally translated, but friends, there is an external translation to come too! Remember the flood! The world therafter was translated. Remember the languages that were spread at the tower of babel. Remember the Giants of old that are no more. God does transform in and out.

  • What I am encouraging for all of us to do in our bible reading is to be careful and concentrate not only on the spiritual meaning, but also how to interpret the word carnally. Sometimes, it takes more work to incorporate the personage of the shadow than the shadow itself. When Jesus came, he came just as prophesied, but her personified the word inwardly, and those who rejected him [religioius leaders] rejected his unworldly outwardness... their 'expectations' nailed themselves spiritually.

  • The word is a shadow of the spiritual world and earthly world. The word comes to light first in you the shines through you. New Jerusalem is first spiritually in us, but also respesents the physical comming of New Jerusalem on a larger scale in the New World. Just as you say we are new creatures in Christ, we also become new creatures in the resurrection Paul spoke of in 1Cor 15:30-34.

    You are giving the spiritual personification of the word, but you are not manifesting it's spiritual light.

  • The New Jerusalem today is IN US. The New Jerusalem tomorrow will be within us and outside us! Retrospectively, Jesus was with his disciples first in flesh, then again in Spirit after the death @ the cross. He cloaked them with the Holy Spirit, and guided them through Spirit. Just as his disciples today are guided by Jesus in Spirit. The word of Jesus 1st comming manifested in Jesus dying at the cross. Morever, the disciples are an example of how we worship God in Spirit.

  • WE must not only understand God's Word, but the human author's word too. Not everything is to be taken solely spiritually, or wholly spiritually. There is a figurative speech written and we have to know what figure it is composing. It is like Art, we will not see the masterpiece if we do not think and see what the Artist thinks and see's. God is meticulous and and wise beyond measure, howbeit, one verse can contain so much depth, one word can wrestle you.

  • Paul quoted Isaiah 45:23 touching the subject of Jesus' Lordship and Judgement over us all in Romans 14:10-11

    I am not in disagreement to what you are sharing. I want the rest to hear that it is not just spiritual but also a physical manifestation of the word to take place. To interpret it solely as spiritual would be like reading that the world was created by God's word, and yet saying to ourselves, the world is not before our physical eyes but dwells somewhere beyond our physical eyes.

  • Before the world was, the Word is. So, before we see the carnal prophecy we receive the spiritual world.

    You are expressing what we are now experiencing spiritually in our relationship with God. There is the first comming of Jesus through the Word (prophecy). The manifestation came in the flesh [the revelation]. The second comming is likewise first taken place spiritually in us, but there will also be a second comming of Jesus physically with us permanently.

  • New Jerusalem will be a new Capital City reigning in the new world of Peace. Hence, the Capital City of Peace rule by the Prince of Peace! We are indeed expereincing the spiritual side of this affect, the Spiritual effect is in process as we speak. Remember, the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. The spiritual will come before the carnal. The same is true of our dreams that come true, and when they come to reality they do not appear exactly as dreamed. This is how to read Revelaions too.

  • Revelations 21:4.. How can you read this text and not take it literally? It is to be taken literally and spiritually. We just read in Revelations 20:14-15 that death and hell have been cast in to the lake of fire as well as those who were not found in the book of life. How can hell be cast in to hell? Hell is that system of suffering that exists in our world Today. Death is the result of sin, death to our spiritual relationship with God. The lake of fire is a new land lacking God.

  • The world will be translated, just as we will be translated in the final resurrection.

    You are forsaking the earthly newness too. The earth is waxing away, and so is our spiritual success. The world and man all need redemption, newness, and translation.

    1 Corinthians 15:35-41 ; Paul talks about our translated bodies in the resurrection.

    There will be that glorious day when there litterally is no more death nor sorrow, not even tears.

  • dude this vid is full with false lies.... stop talking crap the new jerusalem has not come yet ur full of BS i am getting tired of u stupid people....know what, go read the bible over again cuz u don't know what ur talking about.