William Ayers: Education in a Democracy

[eyesontheboat]

Teaching in a Democracy? I thought we were a Republic not a Democracy. As John Adams said "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."

or "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" Benjamin Franklin

[Substantive64]

There is no "education" with your filthy rich ilk, Bill,only INDOCTRINATION, a la Pol Pot,Mao, Stalin, O'Brien in Room 101,etc,etc.

[912ProjectTennessee1]

Prisoner#9653 ~ is it possible that you can be as misinformed as you seem? Your defense of Mr. Ayers and his anti-freedom, anti-truth agenda is very sad for you are totally unaware that it is useful idiots such as yourself that would soon follow his opposition to the gulags or their graves. Please, do some homework. Learn something for as a product of a education system that would allow you to accept such evil remains your enemy.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

So to be more outraged at Nixon's murder of hundreds of thousands than Ayers' killing NOBODY isn't reality? Interesting.

I'm not Communist, but NONE of those deaths or brutal regimes were caused by Marxism. On what page of the Manifesto are gulags advocated?

[912ProjectTennessee1]

This man is at best a Progressive Fascist. He is anti-liberty, anti-freedom, anti-Constitutional and anti-American.

Add to that he should still be in jail, we have to wonder how this evil man has reached a position of power in the "education community". Wonder?...not really, he is engulfed with his disciples for he and his ilk designed the curriculum that "educated" these propagandists we call teachers.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@912ProjectTennessee1 Absolute horsecrap. He is absolutely NOT against liberty, or freedom, or our constitution, or what this nation is SUPPOSED to stand for.

No, he should not be in jail, the federal agents who were supposed to defend the law in fact were breaking the law every step of the way, and the true criminals were those lying to us about the war in the first place.

He's not remotely evil, and he has a place in the education community because he's an outstanding teacher.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@912ProjectTennessee1 And this hysterical hard-right bunkum that education is "propaganda" is a sure sign you know nothing about education at all. Kids get far LESS propaganda than we used to. The Freedom Schools in Tennessee were attacked for the horrible sin of teaching kids to think for themselves.

[dannyg120]

We are watching a video of a domestic terrorist who worked through plans to murder mass numbers of Americans. Set off bombs. Created chaos while instilled with communist beliefs. This is undisputed. He enters academia, a place that seems to embrace his ilk, and he talks to people that somehow look past his hatred and ideology and actually give his thoughts credence. And he has no apologies for his actions. We live in a sad world where ANYONE would welcome him to speak on any subject, even to ju

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@dannyg120 Disgusting lies. He did NOT have plans to murder ANYBODY. EVERY bombing was intentionally done to AVOID innocent deaths (unlike the war, which murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Created chaos? We NEEDED chaos, just quietly accepting what the government told us had proven to be the most foolish mistake we could make.

What "ilk" does academia "embrace"? People who think for themselves? Horrors!

And these anti-free speech fascists claim Bill is "anti-freedom"???

[dannyg120]

Do some reading. Bill Ayers and his disgusting wife Bernadine Dohrn, a kindred spirit.. Remember her saying the people killed by Manson's crew were 'pigs'. Read about Larry Gathwohl, the FBI informant that infiltrated the Weather Undergrond group. Ayers DID plan to kill people. Fortunately it didn't happen. Universities hiring terrorists is a problem. I'll guess it is ok for you who is blind. He is the ultimate example of free speech not being squelched? Free speech isn't exempt from criticism.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@dannyg120 I've done a great deal of reading. Bernadine is NOT "disgusting" in any way. The vile BASTARDS from the FBI were the true criminals. There was NOT any plan to kill people, but AGAIN--why are you NOT going after the ones who murdered hundreds of thousands in Vietnam?

He's not a "terrorist", and he was hired because he's a very good teacher.

Criticize away, but try to get some facts instead of just swallowing whatever lies get told you. Gathwohl and his ilk have zero credibility.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@dannyg120 Now, I am NOT agreeing with everything that was done, or said, at the time, which I'll remind you was FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO, but to pretend these were "the bad guys" is hysteria. The bad guys were Nixon and his gang.

[dannyg120]

More info about your pal. In a book by the WG and your hero 'Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism', the dedication list includes Sirhan Sirhan, assassin of Robert F. Kennedy. Kennedy fought Communism, Ayers is a Communist sympathizer Hmmm.. That wonderful thing called Communism which promotes corruption and usually ends up having a power hungry dictator in charge. Dissenters are killed. Liberties removed. It never has worked anywhere. Read a history book folks! Sad....

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@dannyg120 That is, of course, a complete and total load of shit. Communism has NOTHING AT ALL to do with dissenters being killed and liberties being removed. Tell me on what page of the Manifesto it talks about gulags, please.

Saying "It never has worked anywhere" doesn't come from real history books, just the insanely pro-American revisionist crap David Barton and the right are pushing.

[dannyg120]

My last posting was to provide some seed information for those who may have read your utterly ridiculous response to my posting so they can do some research if they somehow consider what you state as having ANY basis in reality. That posting was for them. Read a little bit of history on Communism. You can't possibly tell me you are not aware of the experience of the people in China, Russia, and elsewhere who suffered greatly. This isn't a forum to debate that but it isn't open to debate anyways.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@dannyg120 It wasn't "seed information" it was bald-faced lies. What I state isn't "a basis in reality", it is reality.

I've read a GREAT DEAL of history, am well aware of how bad things were in the nations you mention. Please, if you want to blame Communism, tell me on what page of the Manifesto you find gulags.

You cannot blame the deaths on Communism.

[MsSimpleLife]

The U.S. is NOT a Democracy. It is a REPUBLIC.

[romand123]

Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding conflicting ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance. They do this by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and actions or by justifying, blaming, and denying the causal agent.

Instead of posting comments that ammount to name calling why haven't any of you 'defenders of 'merica' responded to the point Ayers is making in this video?

[DavidLJarvis]

This,very violent communist infiltrator should be no less than hanged publicly for his very vigilent efforts to destroy the American government and the American way of life.He conspired with the Cubans and Russian KGB in North America to erase the American way of life completley.He is,at the very least guilty of treason, sedition and I would even go so far as to say murder. He's been treated far more than generously by the University of Chicago.He's gone forth to profit off the system. Scumbag.

[MegaRightisright]

Communist american terrorist teaches what a joke. liberal should be doing time for planting bombs . college professer is a pinko scum who shouldn't be teaching.

[PrisonerNumber9653]

@MegaRightisright Pinko? Wow, and you thought McCarthyism was from the 50s??

[MetaCraken]

I find him a bit patronising.

[jaay334]

lol i love the way some of you here only listen left wing media . In 06 the unemployed were 4.7 thats full employed here we are in 2010 at 9.7 other the bills the dems pass to make more of us have jobs weak up ppl Dems lie and steal from you all the time and you still vote for them wow just plan crazy

[jeffmagic32]

The horrific regimes of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, and finally the fall of the Soviet Empire, showed the world the horrors that communism brings. But some still held out hope. These Stalinist relics of the old left mostly retreated into academia.  Terrorist Bill Ayers is just one example.

[IrishLikeMe]

I cannot wait until you are dead you lowlife, unamerican piece of shit. I hope you get raped in the ass by crack-addicts. Fuck off you cocksucking bitch.

[wattyofthewattykins]

I don't think you know Bill Ayers. Be sure to read the opposing views and let us know why Bill Ayers sucks. You may have not noticed that he did not post this video. Therefor, you might as well address the people who might actually read this.

[miket1m]

Why is this piece of shit still breathing? Shut your ass mouth Ayers, you faggot!!!

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[Boris82much]

Teacher johnk42,

Teens struggle to divide 8 into 50, but it's okay, they have calculators. You need a translator to figure out what they've written, but it's okay, they have keyboards. It takes 10 minutes to read a short paragraph, but it's okay, lots of pictures on the internet. They aren't motivated to achieve because they've been indoctrinated with anti-American BS.

What's a kid to do? Reproduce, escape into drugs 'n alcohol and let 'the corrupt system' support 'em? Sounds familiar.

[TithonusPrufrock]

The reason teachers in America can ask these questions is BECAUSE its AMERICA! One of the greatest countries in the WORLD! I bet Chinese teachers would not be able to question the way things are done or a number of other places in the world. If America is so bad, WHY does he LIVE there?!

[LaxGoalie57]

Why isn't this piece of shit dead. If I meet him on the street hes a deadman. Fucking anti-america terrorist.

[khattamshud]

guys like this need to be executed. i don't give a shit if it's "facist". THIS is the downfall of our country

[johnk42]

I searched the internet to find out more about this William Ayers character that the republican machine has been attacking since Obama won the election. And guess what, the guy makes perfect sense! So I need to thank the republicans for allowing me to learn about this guy. I am a teacher myself and his comments were really helpful.

[LaxGoalie57]

A terrorist makes sense? Im sure your a GREAT teacher. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass.

[johnlorican]

Ayers no longer blows up buildings; he simply 'terrorizes' the young with his liberal goofiness and indocrination. Chicago, of course, is among the leaders in murder/crime/dysfunction.

THIS is why people questioned Obama's judgement. NOT because he 'palled around with a terrorist (Ayers)' when he was 9...but because he was sympathetic enough with Ayer's current left-wing worldview that is part and parcel of the Chicago school system and political climate...

...what an absolute shame.

[rightfather]

Yeah that is sooo typical of e left wing pot smoking hippie...Quit whinning !There are plenty of rich black people in this country whom live like kings. This is such a great country! Rev Wright got so rich capitalizing by hating the country that made him rich and by hating on whites..Living in a mansion in a rich white neighborhood.Why wont he live in HArlem or the ghettos of Chicago? And look at all the filthy rich athletes and rappers. NO NO NO !! not goddamn America..God Bless AMerica!!!

[desertblbuesman]

Very well articulated problem of America and the education system, including the media. Not real encouragement to think for ones self. More like here is the world, and here you are in it and that is that. He refers to black education I think here, but the problem is very deep and fully inclusive. Very little encouragement of conscience thinking. And it is only through new ideas that the world may change toward more enlightenment.

[valiumdreamZzZz]

typical rantings of a left wing loon

[TomSnakebite]

Just because nobody is asking them that doesn't mean that they are being denied any type of thought process.

Sounds like something their parents should instill anyway.

[bimini9]

Do you think Ayers ever things he will be in a room and a nail bomb much like the one he used would go off? I wonder if he ever thinks about his speach being cut off by bombs? He is never going to be looked at as real thinker. Just a punk who read some books then thought bombs would work better than words.

[allymetoo]

There is also a huge difference between a Radical Socialist and an Anarchist.

Basically an Anarchist is the most harmless thing of Non-Conformism. He doesn't want to have any Policy Makers on his Head, so he finds a place where that can be.

A radical Socialist ( what I suspect Ayers is) is like a Cancer-call. )

It doesn't want to stop until the Patient falls to the Ground.

[allymetoo]

It is interesting to see, that the Obama Daley Chicago machine did the same.

They first place him in the Senate, then he funnels part of the public funds into phony foundations that goes to the Church Leaders, to buy Votes for Obama declaring him as a Messiah.

[allymetoo]

The reason Marxism was engineered, was to create appropriate means to balance control and exploit human resources, and at the same time strip society of all the spiritual aspects that are part of the cultural heritage.

And this did indeed happen. Society under Stalin was completely dehumanized, Churches where infiltrated and basically destroyed.

The Remnants of the true Russian Orthodox Church are in Exile, while the Russian Orthodox Church in Russia today is under corporate State Control.

[allymetoo]

There is a certain Blueprint of a Doctrine that seems to be prevalent in Ayer's Brain.

1) Obsession with Democracy

He seems to forget, that the United States is a Republic, which means, no matter how big the majority, a minority still can have their say and way.

A democracy is the first step towards Tyranny, because it makes it possible that a majority of 51 % could impose their ways on a minority of 49 %.

[JoeFennario]

Bot, this sure is a scary guy, I sure wouldn't want a president that actually associated with someone who holds such radical views. He must be a real communist threat to our way of life.

This is the bogeyman? Obama is disqualified for president because he has associated with this guy? Joe McCarthy would be proud of everyone who thinks that way.

[teton99]

The danger behind Socialism which is creeping into this country under the guise of benefit packages and socialized medicine is that it creates a demographic depended on the Government. This demographic becomes enabled and in turn keeps the enablers in power, hence our open boarders and a whole new voting base keeping our two party systems very lopsided to say the least.

[deepgroovedeep]

Our two party system "lop-sided" to the left then, where "trickle-down" means getting pissed down your back by the wealthy.

[garciadelacadena]

The Left has finally found the ideal Presidential Candidate in Obama.

So sad to see how the people doesn't want to look in his background, they are about to commit the biggest mistake in modern politics.

If Obama gets elected, people will regret it after 2 yrs, currently he says what the people wants to hear. Once he gets elected, he will do extreme changes at the Educational, Social and Economical Levels.

Castro, Chavez and ACORN will become regular visitors of the White House.

[hiram7474]

gee; change in our educational, social, and economic systems; three areas in which we are doing SO GOOD in. No seas ignorante, Garcia. Chavez is the enemy because he has rejected U.S. C.E.O's in the oil industry.

[deepgroovedeep]

And WHAT happened in the last eight years under Bush/ Cheney? This countgries finances, name and integrity was run into the ground so a very few could profit from our fear and vulnerabilities.

[teton99]

Top Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

NameOfficeParty/StateTotal

1. Dodd, Christopher JSD-CT$133,900

2. Kerry, JohnSD-MA$111,000

3. Obama, BarackSD-IL$105,849

4. Clinton, HillarySD-NY$75,550

5. Kanjorski, Paul EHD-PA$65,500

[teton99]

Obama association with Wright, Acorn & Ayers is a common thread of Marxism. That is the real danger behind Obama. Ayers received 60 Mil from W.Annenberg for "education" which Obama distributed. Ayers' own words on this "education" were to "radicalize students politically" (in a Marxist view). The 60 Mil didnt go to Schools, but to Orgs like ACORN. Can you imagine what Obama's cabinet will be like with associations like these. Obama is seriously influenced by a redressed Marxists worldview

[hiram7474]

Snap out of your Red Scare, teton. Capitalism and so called democracy is just has capable of creating chaos as much as any dictatorship. There is nothing wrong with balancing socialism, the way many of our own programs are run, and democracy.

[teton99]

OBAMA'S HOT AYERS NYP 10/13/08

Ayers seemed to envision schools as "sites of resistance" and for teaching kids to oppose "oppression," with a focus on America's evil and racist past - and an eye toward "social transformation." This is the swamp in which Obama operated: The Journal notes that Obama was chairman of the CAC board, which handled fiscal matters. All told, Ayers and Obama won more than $150 million to ladle out.

[PalinBOOBS]

I love to dream. it's what makes America great. conservatives are whacky end of days the sky is falling fear mongerers. except that strategy doesn't work in this election. they're hanging on by a thread throwing shit at the wall rather than addressing issues affecting Americans. no one gives two fucks about this laundry list of irrelevant characters. no one cares. sometimes I wonder if Guiliani's advisors took over the McCain campaign.

Obama is a rockstar God riding the wave to DC

[mrhughes00]

we'll see

[stevekoeppelbiz]

1 Beretta clip holds 15 rounds...hollow pointed human killing rounds. Did you know that Bill?

[stevekoeppelbiz]

...his brains and blood would decorate the wall behind him very nicely!

[stevekoeppelbiz]

...in the face!

[stevekoeppelbiz]

I sure hope he gets shot to death while holding one of these meetings

[mrhughes00]

oh, get in line behind your wife and i'll be right with ya

[mrhughes00]

wanna suck me off bill?

[Terrapinfan2007]

just a reminder, blacks were brought here for slavery and the intention of the slaveowners never had freedom in their mind.

Overtime, blacks and intellectual whites realized that in order for the United States to be democratically legitmate, blacks must receive fair and equal treatment by the government and its citizens. Whoever does so otherwise refuses to acknowledge the Constitution.

[SCHRUBBE1966]

Ayers is a scum bag. He advocated killing parents and police and the violent overthrough of the goverment. He openly states how he hates this country.

[teton99]

Obama association with Wright, Acorn & Ayers is a common thread of Marxism. That is the real danger behind Obama. Ayers received 60 Mil from W.Annenberg for "education" which Obama distributed. Ayers' own words on this "education" were to "radicalize students politically" (in a Marxist view). The 60 Mil didnt go to Schools, but to Orgs like ACORN. Can you imagine what Obama's cabinet will be like with associations like these. Obama is seriously influenced by a redressed Marxists worldview

[carogirl07]

This IS the best place in the world to be.Why else is everybody trying to get here? If you think it's goofy, I will be happy to purchase your (one way) ticket to anywhere else!

[jaywhodi]

yeah silence this man, that nigger lover. How dare him teach blacks who they are in history. Black don't deserve anything. They need to love the country and people who stole your identity. You ungrateful blakies. That's how yall sound. ha ha ha ha! The meek shall inherit the earth. biatch! Long live the Tribe of Judah. Where the real jews at.

[snipzor]

I would love to track this guy down and meet him, he looks like a great man to have a conversation with. I'm sure most (intelligent) people would agree to that.

[racisthellyeahMF]

this ayers motherfucker should have been shot a long time ago

[PukuTheBear]

Who says this isn't a great life? Who says we need more crap? We live like kings.

Could it be better? What? What is better?

To live in a mansion where your kids are nurtured by starngers. I know ethipians who lived in the bush who are have a great life.

Stop messing with peoples heads for your rebelion against this country. Go be a preacher.

[ekjohndeer]

Bill should ask the people that were hurt (who I'm I why are we here ) The sad thing is that he's teaching kids this.

[bfinkish]

this guy is a fucking moron and should be in jail right now. TERRORIST

he thinks he is soooo above the law it is sick.

[Tono101777]

He should be doing life... for treason.

[epicstl]

Some of these comments are hilarious. Do you guys even KNOW what bill ayers did and the reasons behind what he did? What's worse...what he did in the 60's and 70's (he didn't KILL anyone) or what the US did in Vietnam in the 60's and 70's?

[kalima275Z]

Isn't this guy a terrorist? Why isn't he in jail and before that, why is he teaching our youth? How can this be legal?

[mrspogadaeus]

Yes, he is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. He is not in jail now because the FBI failed to get a warrant to wiretap his conversations or some such nonsense. So legally, they had to let him go. Morally, he and his terrorist wife, Bernadine Dorhn, who should have been thrown in a jail cell and the key thrown into a deep river - He spoke in Venezuela in Nov.2006 about teaching revolution to kids... hello?? The man is a traitor who had free access to our kids through Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

[forevermean]

Ah, the resounding idealism that people are static, that nobody makes bad decisions or does the wrong thing at first, and then eventually finds truth on the other side of the tunnel. So much beauty in what he speaks, so much potential, so much dedication to come out of being a violent radical and reimmerse himself in society and become a positive influence in peoples lives. But of course the smartest way to react to the situation is insist he could never have a positive impact and ignore him.

[ebonics4everyone]

This just shows what being politically correct and well-connected will do for your career. Unlike the wily Charles Manson or Jim Jones, Bill Ayers is a tenured professor w/ no fear of dying or going to prison. What makes Ayers any better than those other men? All of them conspired to commit murder. All of them hated the United States government. But Ayers is an influential adviser to the DNC. Some fucking justice.

[averitas]

Not to mention head of curriculum now.

This man and his wife should never be allowed to have any access to a child's brain.

[mrspogadaeus]

And yet he has spoken in Venezuela about education being a revolutionary tool... wonder what he promoted while he was involved in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) with all those millions at his fingertips... 49 million, to be exact... filtered to him and his family by none other than Barack Obama, who was in charge of the finances for CAC. Bernadine Dohrn worked at the same law firm ad Obama's wife, Michelle. Dohrn was also was involved in an org that benefitted from CAC funds. Cozy, huh?

[stivo1975]

This guy is like Adolf Hitler or Charles Manson. Easily masterminds the young college punks into his own army.

[shiroisan87]

kinda like obama lol

[CForesta]

Bravo! You would make Freire proud. Carol

[Allknowing01]

An asshole speaking to SHEEP.

[down3475]

What did he ever do to you?

[VANITYBONET]

u sound like a idiot