All the comments being said , wether good or bad , Cambest is still a very remarkable horse. Where are all the other big ticket names time trials/ training miles 1;46.1 or under. I would love to see them.
@TheRagingNerd every horse in this era wore the cheetah sulky! I rode in a cheetah sulky and they made every horse go 2 seconds or more faster! I wish the never outlawed those sulkys. They were not dangerous!
wow it was a trial and seriously the horses need to stop being juiced to there eyesballs in america. i have a freind who has an ex united states pacer and it took time to wean him off the jungle juice the yanks shove down there throats.
plus no pressure in a race scenario diminishes his so called feat
@karloomick Im confused as to what they are being juiced with. Plus this was 93. Even if he was milkshaking and had a cheetah sulky that is a seriously legit mile
i was lucky enough to speak to billy o a few weeks after he drove this horse and what he said was that had he have let cambest go he,d have been at the half in 50 seconds flat i met him at the confederation cup i think he was driving village jiffy on the day the mans an absolute star
They shouldn't have paid the fee for the prompter because the Thoroughbred utterly failed to keep up! This is actually impressive because it was really a training mile and not a time trial - the prompter was not even remotely in contact with Cambest for at least the final five furlongs! I always knew that Harold J. would produce at least one really important grandkid...
People can say what they want but I know of no proof. The cloud that hung over Cambest's head from the Black Box at Delaware prevented him from going to Hanover Shoe Farm and probably reduced the impact of his first 4 or 5 crops. Instead of being ONE of the best all time sires, he might have been the best.
the "black box" test has some questions of it's own to answer. I showed Dr. Sams (Ohio chief chemist) my bloodwork on Postmark and 1/4 times that I pulled her blood he told me that on that particular day that she would have blown any box in the country and this was on a day she trained, 4 weeks before the next time she raced, and I know she wasn't milkshaked, so through personal experience I know that there CAN be other reasons for a horse to have a high blood gas test. We just don't know.
@DoctorFuego There was no proof of a milkshake on this day! Also if you put Jet Fuel in a pinto its not going to make it faster! They have to have a motor like cambest to go faster with jet fuel!
@DoctorFuego Also Cambest has proven everyone wrong with His great production as a SIRE! He is an awesome sire produced some world champions so I still think he is one of the top 5 pacers that ever lived! Walter Case Jr drove this horse and still calls him the fastest horse he has ever driven! That says a lot coming from Walter Case Jr! He has sat behind countless great horses to be called the best he has ever driven says A LOT ABOUT CAMBEST!
Astonishing how long this record has stood, longer than Niatross or Steady Star held the record...Bret Hanover and Adios Butler only held it for a short while, comparatively.
UNREAL!!!
smaexpress 1 week ago
All the comments being said , wether good or bad , Cambest is still a very remarkable horse. Where are all the other big ticket names time trials/ training miles 1;46.1 or under. I would love to see them.
LittleCreek402 7 months ago
american harness racing is a joke till they wean them off lasix and bute
karloomick 9 months ago
This was the infamous cheetah sulky time trial yes?
TheRagingNerd 1 year ago 2
@TheRagingNerd every horse in this era wore the cheetah sulky! I rode in a cheetah sulky and they made every horse go 2 seconds or more faster! I wish the never outlawed those sulkys. They were not dangerous!
howardm74 1 year ago
wow it was a trial and seriously the horses need to stop being juiced to there eyesballs in america. i have a freind who has an ex united states pacer and it took time to wean him off the jungle juice the yanks shove down there throats.
plus no pressure in a race scenario diminishes his so called feat
karloomick 1 year ago
@karloomick Im confused as to what they are being juiced with. Plus this was 93. Even if he was milkshaking and had a cheetah sulky that is a seriously legit mile
abetts00 1 year ago
i was lucky enough to speak to billy o a few weeks after he drove this horse and what he said was that had he have let cambest go he,d have been at the half in 50 seconds flat i met him at the confederation cup i think he was driving village jiffy on the day the mans an absolute star
thejingers 2 years ago
They shouldn't have paid the fee for the prompter because the Thoroughbred utterly failed to keep up! This is actually impressive because it was really a training mile and not a time trial - the prompter was not even remotely in contact with Cambest for at least the final five furlongs! I always knew that Harold J. would produce at least one really important grandkid...
ConcertShutterbug 2 years ago
People can say what they want but I know of no proof. The cloud that hung over Cambest's head from the Black Box at Delaware prevented him from going to Hanover Shoe Farm and probably reduced the impact of his first 4 or 5 crops. Instead of being ONE of the best all time sires, he might have been the best.
pacingmachine 3 years ago
Cambest was disqualified and his trainer suspended a few months later from the Senior Jug due to being "milkshaked"
There was no drug test of him done on the day of this time trial, but one can draw their own conclusion....
DoctorFuego 3 years ago
the "black box" test has some questions of it's own to answer. I showed Dr. Sams (Ohio chief chemist) my bloodwork on Postmark and 1/4 times that I pulled her blood he told me that on that particular day that she would have blown any box in the country and this was on a day she trained, 4 weeks before the next time she raced, and I know she wasn't milkshaked, so through personal experience I know that there CAN be other reasons for a horse to have a high blood gas test. We just don't know.
pacingmachine 3 years ago
Thanks for the clarification on this. You are obviously more knowledgeable than I am on this.
146.1 is an awesome time and it's too bad a cloud hangs over it.
I imagine that Somebeachsomewhere is going to break it this summer at the Red Mile.
DoctorFuego 3 years ago
@DoctorFuego There was no proof of a milkshake on this day! Also if you put Jet Fuel in a pinto its not going to make it faster! They have to have a motor like cambest to go faster with jet fuel!
howardm74 1 year ago
@DoctorFuego Also Cambest has proven everyone wrong with His great production as a SIRE! He is an awesome sire produced some world champions so I still think he is one of the top 5 pacers that ever lived! Walter Case Jr drove this horse and still calls him the fastest horse he has ever driven! That says a lot coming from Walter Case Jr! He has sat behind countless great horses to be called the best he has ever driven says A LOT ABOUT CAMBEST!
howardm74 1 year ago
I have read on several forums that Cambest was juiced on that day.
DoctorFuego 3 years ago
Astonishing how long this record has stood, longer than Niatross or Steady Star held the record...Bret Hanover and Adios Butler only held it for a short while, comparatively.
easygoer13 3 years ago
what a great horse and the fastest
jasonwalters79 3 years ago