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  • Excuse me, but most of you don't have a clue of which you speak. You are just spouting off what you have heard from those who have an interest in confusion. If you were really interested in the truth, before you post, you would SEEK the truth. Check the court records in Nashville for recent court decisions regarding the law suit and the judge's decision. This should be in the public records. And John, judge not, lest ye be judged! I think you know about where to find that one.

  • sgfan---------

    This group may have their place----as FORMER Imperials! they are NOT The Imperials today and should not bill themselves as such. This group sure could be seen as just making money off of Elvis and nothing more. True or not, the perception is sure there.

  • Hey john, what happened to your group? Jason, the guy who sued his father and Ian, the bass are now the only original members of this latest version. I guess the others saw the handwriting on the wall and decided continuing with this group was a dead end street.

  • The only original members of The Imperials are those that were those in the group as they started, Armond, Jake Hess, etc. ALL others are not original members. The Imperials have ALWAYS had a tradition of moving people in and out changing the look and sound of the group. Some go on to other ministries, some fade away until they can find out how to make money off of a dead rock star.

  • By the way, at one point, Jason, Jeremy, and Shannon sang with Armond. When Armond left Ian was hired to replace Armond--the last original member. That in itself should show you who The Imperials REALLY are!!!!

  • John, you speak of Jeremy and Shannon.  They are no longer even in that group. Who's left now of the Real Imperials, as you call them? Who's really real and who's not? Would the new members of that group be imposters too?

  • You must have NO brains at all. There are NO original members with The Imperials now--NO original members--get it!!!! The last original member was Armond and he left the group like the the former members you follow. Jeremy and Shannon are also now former members of The Imperials. It is a group that has always evolved!!! Face it--the group you follow never has had an original member in it, never will. Armond left only one group,and it is not your group. They are FORMER MEMBERS ONLY! Good Grief!

  • Yeah, when you lose two members, the lead and the tenor, your sound will definitely change. The lead and the tenor are THE SOUND in any four part group. Baritone and bass just fill out the chord. And by the way, the song the Real Imperials were singing was not a rock song. It was This Train and Oh Happy Day, both GOSPEL SONGS. Why don't you just quit beating this dead horse and go get a job?

  • As always the two former members were replaced-current list of Imperials:

    Jason Morales

    Perry Jones

    Scott Allen

    Ian Owens

    Continuing the legacy of The Imperials!

  • And you can't deny that the group in THIS video chase a dead rock star for money these days!!!! What a great ministry!!!

  • oh my god, i CANT BELIEVE you took that cheap shot at elvis. that was uncalled for. dont bring him in to this, he isnt here to defend himself. show some respect.

  • As an Elvis Fan... I thank any musician or artist who continues the legacy. The fans are VERY supportive - WORLD WIDE! But you wouldn't have a clue.

  • For both Impfan and sideburns---this is NOT and should NOT be about Elvis! That is my point! I am as big an Elvis fan as anyone--saw him live in Amarillo,Texas when I was 14, just 6 months before he died--love him, but The Imperials group is first and foremost about GOD and ministry. This group in this video is about money and how to make it off of Elvis. They are using the name of the Imperials when they are NO LONGER Imperials. That is wrong by any standards. God--NOT Elvis!!!

  • You might be interested in knowing that YOUR Imperials, with Ian and Jeremie, and two fill ins sang in Chattanooga, TN as the Imperials and they backed an Elvis impersonator. That's YOUR group, John.

  • Well, had not heard of that and know nothing of that. But Jeremie is as of last word not and Imperial any longer, but did fill in . Really wish he would come back--a master talent. Jason, Ian and Scott are The imperials and at last word are looking for a tenor to fill that position. The group continues the tradition of billboarding new talent. I will say this, I hope The Imperials stay with the ministry of praising God--not Elvis!!!

  • The guys are NOT THE IMPERIALS. Armond Morales(bass singer) sold The Imperials to his son Jason Morales and the 3 other young Imperials. They now own the name and rights to The Imperials. These in this video are using the name illegally. These are former Imperials interested in entertaining and not a ministry. They are still very talented, but are usuing the name illegally!

  • Do you really think Armond's son would not allow him to use the name? He was a fpounder and I am sure there is a contract in place.

    Armond actually put the Imperials on sabbatical because he thought they were more interested in entertainment than ministry in 1993

    I doubt whether this was not discussed with his son and it was not legal

  • Again--Armond Morales is a FORMER member of The Imperials. He is NOT in the above video or group of former members!

  • Don't be too sure rencal45. You are just assuming things and that doesn't always give you the truth you seek. And that sabbatical issue to which you refer is completely bogus.

  • Well that info came directly from the Imperials website so I don't believe I am assuming anything.

    I may be assuming that the dad was given permission by the son however if they are doing a tour under the Imperials banner then I would have to say I am assuming right.

  • These guys aren't the original Imperials BUT three of the four definitely ARE Imperials. Joe Moscheo, Sherman Andrus and Terry Blackwood (from right to left). These are "The Classic Imperials". Started by Armond Morales, after handing off The Imperials to Jason. Armond usually sings with them but takes an occasional break. Check out their website some time under ClassicImperials. They also have a Great video here on YouTube. Type in .."Classic Imperials 'A Place Called Heaven'"

  • So true, again 3 were with The Imperials 30 years ago, but guess what, times change, group members change. By the way these guys are making money off of Elvis!

  • the guys in this video ARE THE IMPERIALS. where does it say that the younger guys OWN that name?? Did the person that sold it to them legally own it in the first place?

    you cant take away the history these guys have or their accomplishments.

  • Armond, Jim and Joe owned the group. Armond and Jim bought the group from Joe, then Armond bought the group from Jim. Armond then retired and sold the group to the current Imperials. I think that is a very basic thing in business. Things are bought and sold! When you sell your part then you cannot use what you sold. Anyone knowns that!

  • These are NOT the Imperials!!!!! These are FORMER members of The Imperials! The Imperials 2008 are very young and very talented guys that also have videos here--check them out!!!!

  • Sorry meticulousgeek, the only guys in this group that sang with Elvis are Terry Blackwood and Joe Moscheo. Armond Morales (the original bass), Jim Murray, and Roger Wiles made up the rest at the time. Unfortunately, this group is trying to capitalize on the Imperials fame when they only spent a fraction of the overall history in the group.

  • This group, "The Classic Imperials", was started BY Armond Morales an Original Imperial, who is a member but takes a break on occasion. Jim Murray was a part of this senior version of The Imperials group when they first started just a few years ago.

  • This group in this video is also NOT the Classic Imperials! The Classic Imperials are made up of Armond Morales, Dave Will and two other guys. Jim Murray use to be a part of that group, but is no longer with them. This is a group of THREE FORMER Imperials that live off of the Elvis circuit. These again are FORMER members of The Imperials, but use The Imperials name.

  • Yes. These guys are long time friends and former/sometimes partners of Armond Morales. I met Armond years ago. He's a very humble guy who just wants God to be lifted up and glorified. From what I understand they have his blessing. If it's not a problem to him. It shouldn't be for anyone else. The current "Classic Imperials" are Armond Morales, Dave Will, Robbie Hiner and Rick Evans.

  • I do agree with what you said, but Armond should not have alot to say about the current status and name usage of The Imperials---if indeed he sold the group, which I heard him say in an interview. One of these former Imperials in this video, personally e-mailed me and sayed that did not happen. Confusing! Nevertheless, the Classic Imperials and these former Imperials in this video are NOT today The Imperials. By the way, he also told me that this video was done without their permission.

  • Thank You Moody Blue! I LOVE THE Imperials and they are truly beautiful souls. They're music speaks for itself. Elvis DID bring gospel music to those who might not ever heard it otherwise! Our bell sheep brought it to me also. When Ed Sullivan said Elvis could NOT sing "Peace In The Valley" He refused to go on stage and Ed let him sing it!

  • i hate the fact that every time there are videos put on youtube regarding this group, someone has to chime in with their negativity. believe me, thats not what terry, gus, sherman and joe are about. they just simply want to take their gospel message to their fans and have a great time singing their music. they are NOT about the negativity.

  • The only thing negative is the falsehoods that this group is spreading. If the truth hurts....

  • i tell you what, i know for a fact that the elvis fans are more likely to attend elvis related events if they know the Imperials are performing. They arent going to be at the Memphis Birthday pops concert this year for Elvis' birthday, and I have talked to SEVERAl people who are NOT going because of that.(take note EPE and MSO)

  • GOD, Gospel, Christian, Worship, Brotherhood, Love Thy Neighbor --- These words speak honesty... Do you and your so-called Imperialists?

  • LIMPFAN1... This topic will spread WORLD WIDE. Be prepared...  I hope you have the fingers to type replies to Tens of Thousands of Angry ELVIS Fans/Imperials Fans who dis- agree to your so called claim to fame and OWNERSHIP.

    Talk to you SOON!!!!!

  • I hope it does go world wide, then the truth can be known. I do respect Elvis. He really changed the face of music for all time. My comment is about The Imperials and former members using the name. Not Elvis.

  • Who are you to say who can use the name and who can't. Three of these guys knew Elvis, worked with Elvis, and sing their gospel music to Elvis fans. He introduced them as the Imperials. What's your problem? Do you have some vested interest in constant criticism? I have found negative people usually get negative responses. No one wants to hear this. Why don't you just get on with your life and let this alone?

  • Tina5391 it is sad that people claim to be messengers of Gods word and at the same time lie and mislead people. Don't worry - we will be the messengers of the truth.

    This negative person (IDIOT) will get negative responses frome me and my friends every time!

  • that is true, how can you get up on the stage and sing gospel music while you are living a lie?

  • Now this group has "IT"

    Ladies and Gentlemen... The "IMPERIALS"

    I can't understand how a group of kids can get away with using the same name as this group. Hell, I think I'll start a group and call them the Beatles! or maybe the Rolling Stones. And then I'll use all of their accomplishments and tell people... Look at my great group with all thease awards...Hot Damn, I'm good!

  • There have been over 20 guys in The Imperials 44 year history. Not ever the people we are discussing here are originals. So were they doing then same thing as these "young guys"? No, they were part of the group 30 years ago. However, the "young guys" or The Imperials, were hire by Armond then he sold them the group.

  • "This Train" & "Oh Happy Day" is SMOKIN' HOT!

    LOVE IT!

  • besides all of the bickering that always goes on courtesy of Impfan1, I would just like to say that the SMOKE in this video is both ridiculous and hilarious. I love the part where Terry gets smoked out and you can hear coughing!! why did they over do the smoke? looked like KISS should be on the stage not the Imperials!!

  • I dont really remember that group of young guys winning ANY awards since they started performing together. I think its kind of sad that people will go see a show thinking they are getting the Imperials that have actually won grammys and dove awards, then the young guys take the stage and its a complete let down.

    the guys you see in this video are the IMPERIALS that have had all of the successes over the years.

  • What does their web site say? 4 grammies, 17 doves. How can you have a group without individuals. These individuals to a man have won nothing! You are playing a game of semantics. Their web site claims they have won these awards.

  • Then ever group should start and end with the original members or the members that just win awards. The Pittsburgh Steelers should not have a team this year since they have members that did not win a ring a few years ago! By the way, the guys on this video did not win all of the awards either! One of them have never bee in The Imeprials at all.

  • Never under estimate the power of the ELVIS FAN WORLD!!!

    You DO NOT stand a chance of winning an argument against us! We respect the talent and contributions of any previous and present members of THE IMPERIALS. For it is ELVIS, who introduced GOSPEL MUSIC to the entire WORLD... Not to mention "secular" listeners who may have never given this type of music a seconed chance.

  • I would definately HAVE to agree with chefsideburns (nice name buddy)

    if it wasnt for elvis and the groups he recorded and performed gospel with, like the imperials..i would NEVER have become a gospel fan. elvis is the reason i am a christian and a lover of gospel music. he was the bell sheep that led me to gospel.

  • That is great to hear. GOD can work through anything he wants.

  • Baaaahhhaaaa!!! I heard that bell too!

  • I am not attempting anything but to let the truth be known. Yes, 3, of these guys were with Elvis as The Imperials. However, they are removed 30 years and now are using a name they have no right to.

    By the way that is a broad comment to say Elvis introduced Gospel music to the world.

  • Do Your Homework! ELVIS Bridged the Gap! Okay? is that better ? do you understand now?

    I must S L O W Down when I post to you because it is Odvious to me that you are wearing blinders when it comes to this TOPIC

  • when elvis had the imperials open the show for him in vegas, that was simply unheard of at the time. people werent performing gospel music in las vegas casinos. its important that they took that message to those types of crowds that might not have heard it otherwise. and they had a great response from the people

  • Can 3 past employees of Walmart advertise themselves as Walmart? Can they open across the street and put up a Walmart sign? Can they lay claim to the company's accomplishments from the companies inception to the current time? No. This is the same thing. All of them were employees of Armond and Jim. Armond has all of the publishing. As long as there is a presence in the market of the legal group, then there cannot be another using the same name.

  • what did you do Impfan1, change your name to lowdbrent??

  • Nope. I am a long time Imperials fan though, growing up with the FIRST Imps with Jake, and the Statesmen before that. The 70's and 80's Imperials were my rock and roll, as I was a pastor's son and couldn't listen to secular music.

  • i am glad i grew up in a home where i could listen to anything i wanted. it allowed me to have a very well rounded taste in music

  • I do not discount my childhood. I DID get a well rounded taste of everything, and I do mean everything, later. Interests in audio engineering inspired reading about artists first, production techniques, inpirations & heros, gaving me a perspective a casual listener would not have. I love many genres and artists as a result.

  • Not The Imperials. Three of these guys sang with the group 30 years ago and the other guy has never been with the group!

  • Then just who IS the real Imperials? Are you speaking of four young men who claim the name, but really have nothing to prove it. None of them have won anything, but claim every award this great group has won over the past 30 years. They were in diapers when this group was winning awards. The young guys are the frauds with fraudulent claims of awards and successes they have not earned.

  • The real Imperials are the young guys. They bought the group from Armond. They do not say they have won any awards. They do say they are part of a group that has.

    Just because you were are part of something does not give you the right to take it back up whenever you want to.

  • What part of their group has? When you learn the real facts, then get back to me. Their bio says grammy award winners, dove award winners, and hall of famers, and they are advertised that way. That is just fraudulent.

  • All four guys were hired by Armond to carry on The Imperials. 3 Of the guys sang with Armond as The Imperials. Armond then sold the group to the guys. That is why, again, they claim that the group, not the individuals won the awards.

    Groups, sports teams and businesses in general do that all the time.

  • I have an idea, you can incorporate a famous gospel group with a famous football team and call it the "Imperial Steelers"

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