In Britain we don't want it either, but as we have 100% sovereinty rights we couldn't give in to terrorism. Best thing: give it back to France, can't imagine they'd want it though.
I'm Irish and i say keep the north,we don't want it,cant handle it,and not able to afford it, Jesus look what we done to our 26 counties and people really expect us to take on 6 more,we cant even drive on our roads or get sick because both warrant a death sentence down here
Hmm! Shame Ireland isn't still under French control, Britain being linked to a country whose inhabitants think murder victims should burn in hell is sad! & If Ireland was still French it would be a united ireland - no fucking way would they give away the land known as The Republic like Britain did.
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would you dare sing this shit in front of an audience of victims families McArsehole? If i'd been stupid enough to have an excreatles record collection i'd burn it.
I'm ex-British infantry and I agree with a united Ireland. In fact, most British squaddies I served with did too. Seems so stupid that we kill each other over a flag.
look we all know its more complicated then this,but at the time the british had introduced interment, which many innocent people got caught up in.paul and even some of the soldiers at the time ,viewed this as very excessive and oppressive.it was a raw time, and he wrote a raw song
@BelfastRangers2011 all the Beatles were part Gael! If ye read their biography or visit the Albert Dock museum ye'll find that out!
Geoge was half Irish, John and Paul a 1/4 to be honest. Ye'd be right as Irish means Celt born or living in Ireland. So technicly speaking they weren't Irish but had load of cousins struggeling for civil rights.
Nice Macca, but once again some mixing up: the English are Saxons, Angels and Franks and Jutes as well, so Germans, all those people belong to the Germanic civilisation.
the British are the Celts from Britain + the Picts!
@Brengor69 Macca of course is a singer no historian so can perhaps be forgiven. Of course the Angles, Saxons, celtic tribes no longer exist. The Modern day English, Irish, Welsh, and Scots are none of those, but decendants of all them. In fact 75% of our genes are pre-indo european, the stone age farmes who built Stonehenge, skara brae. It makes sense when you think they were already here for what 20,000 years plus when the above Indo-Euopean tribes started arriving past 3,000 years or so.
@jacksbacksucker ? there is no tribes anymore in the Celtic Civilisation, ok; the English aren't Celtc ok, but Irish, Welsh and Scots are Celts! Cause they just belong to that civilisation. I don't know about any pourcentage of genes but the Celtc from central Europe mixed them up with the Megalith(Europeans like Bascs and Hungarian and Finish) people. I wonder why the bare desapeared from Ireland 3000 years ago...
@Brengor69 The fact is the Irish and the English are the same people. A geneticist would not be able to tell from blind samples which was which. This is because 75% of our genes actually comes from the people who have lived in these isels the longest (stands to reason) the stone age farmers who built stone hengge/skara brae etc. They have been in these isles for 10 times the Indo-Euopeans. The Indo-Europeans themselves were a war like aristocratic class who had limited effect genetically.
@Brengor69 The Celts in other words came in and ruled an existing population, as overlords, as did their cousins the romans, and cousins the germanics, saxons vikings, normans etc. This is provable by the fact their languages have made an imprint, but there no evidence of mass population exterminations or replacement. It is fairly pointless to make any distinction between Gemanic Indo-euopeans and celtic indo-europeans, close cousins. But I would agrue that England is as celtic as Ireland.
@Brengor69 This is evidenced alone by the fact the great hero os King Arthur, Celtic King of the Britons. In london Boaddika, Celtic Queen of the Iceni, statue is in pride of place...no statues of Thor, Wodin or Loki. Even the term British refers to the Celtic past. But in any case the modern irish and english are not celts, or saxons, or pre-indo euopeans, these are gone historic people, we are decendants of those people in mixed measure, but new different peoples in our own right.
@jacksbacksucker Well, I really wondered wher ye lernt tat the modern Irish aren't Celts! lol
Each people belong to a civilisation!
In fact the Irish are quite different to the English the Indo-European aren't a people but a GROUP o civilisations and the Gaels and English are very not the same people! :p They don't think the same way, don't speak the same, don't party the same way ...
Well, I don't know if ye heard of the Gaelic Clearence. But if that isn't a genocide I wonder.
@Brengor69 You're entrenched in a way of thinking which has it's roots in 19th century nationalism. The idea that in the modern age the irish are 'Celts' or 'Gaels' and the English are 'Saxons' or 'Angles' is equally as daft. These are tribes that existed a millenia ago. It's like saying you're a scythian. The Irish and English are BOTH decended from both sets of tribes, and plenty of other peoples before and since besides.
@jacksbacksucker ye got it all mixed-up! 1st of all Celts and Gaels I wonder who the fuck told ye the were tribes! Gaels = people; Celts = civilisation. it's like a teacher from a igh school in Liverpool said to the class: Welsh is not a real language, it only got 600-800 words! The Hell I wasn't brave enough to put back her at her place but she was the "teacher"-layer.
2ndly NO one need a time machine to be a Celt !!! Celts are still alive! They're are a present civilisation, and proud!
@Brengor69 Nope your mixed up. Celt comes from the Greek Keltoi, it probably originally refered to one specific alpine tribal group, not the gaels, brits, picts even. But in the 18th century linguists revived the term as a convenient label to group certain related languages. It doesn't neccesarily even follow that more than a handful of these people were ever in our isles, after all look how widely spoken English is, the celts much the same, a ruling caste imposing their tongue through force.
@Brengor69 But wrong though you are, you do back up my point, if the peoples of Britian and Ireland ever had a germanic cultural identity, or celtic, they don't know..it is 'historicly'. Celts, Saxons, Angles, Scythians, Biblical Hebrews are all ancient history. British, Irish are different modern people.
@Brengor69 'Nationalism then came as a force in the 19th century, and this led to people mistakenly trying to use these lingustic terms to differentiate themselves. For example The irish are exactly the same as the English, a mix mostly of neolithic genes, with a small bit of celt, viking, saxon added later, identical. But by picking out that one part of the irish identity the nationalists hope to say 'we are different from the english'. But the english are of course historically as celtic.
@Brengor69 Some Germans immigrated into England and Ireland in the 18th century and 19th. Some German Jews in 20th century. I think what you in fact mean is the English people talk a language which is decended from what linguists term 'Germanic' languages. That language was bought here by a tiny amount of invaders from what is now Denmark and North W Germany. Every Irishman alive decends from those people as does every Englishman. This is because they cam 450-600 A.D
@jacksbacksucker Actually thats not true . RECENT DNA studies show that 90% of irish people are PRE -Celtic. 2 % are viking (roughly ) and the rest are mixed CELT +others . That means that the population here is descended from the megalitic peoples about 7,000 years ago (same for scots +sme welsh ). Same as in England .>The "invasions" simply replaced the Ruling class and costoms, there was NO big migration of peoples.
@jacksbacksucker But I would say there's not 'Viking' Irish people walking around, even 2%, but rather all irish people have a small amount of viking DNA, as high as 2% in some. When you think about the amount of ancestors you have a thousand years back, you are almost certainly a decendant of every 'tribe' alive then and before.
@jacksbacksucker That comment was meant for me i think . Actually its actually 98 % of redheads (of which im one ) are either megalithic and a small number of viking . thats where the REDS come from . Celts are naturally dark skined and dark haired. If you look at true aran islanders , they have mediteraenean features , same boats also , currach and the same "sail" as used on the Nile .......about the amount of tribes , Id doubt the thousands.......
@olliephelan Olliphelan, Why do you doubt it? The number of ancestors you have doubles with each generation. You have 4 grandparents, 8 g-grandparents, 16 g-g grandparents, 32 3xg granparents, 64 4xg grandparents, 128 5xg granparents, etc. By your 10x grandparents you are already in the thousands, 1,024 direct ancestors. In general it's about 30 generations back to the normans 1000 A.D, and you by then have ancestors in the millions, by Charlemagne, trillions, more people than
@olliephelan was alive on the planet at that time. This impossibility is explained by cousin marriages, and fact some ancestors you decend from many times over. This is why for example the Aran islanders may shows different features to dubliners. They will both decend from celts, vikings, mediteraneans, but in slightly differing proportion. Interestingly they got DNA from a black African buried 1250 AD in Norfolk recently, and every white person tested in the county was a decendant!
@olliephelan Olliephelan, the study I refer to was stephen oppenheimers. I'd be interested in the reference for this new study thats puts the pre-celtic genome as high as 90, he put it as 75%. But yes does confirm what is now accepted thought that the all the Indo-European peoples Latins, Celts, Germancis, etc came in as a small ruling caste (same in India).
@jacksbacksucker . Ireland remained pretty much "undiluted" until the normans , RELATIVE to the rest of europe .The four invasions ending with the celts were just the ruling class , and even the normans were simply a few mercenaries who had superior technology and therefore ruled. They population stayed much the same . Cavan has the most psychiatric problems in ireland / most cousin inbreeding. Even mentioned in " mad sweeney" from 1,000 years ago .
@olliephelan Interesting what you say about the cavaner's though. My people are from South Leitrim, and all have straight dark black hair, look very meditteranean, Jewish, no redheads in our family. No madness either...yet. ;)
@jacksbacksucker Yeah " SWEENEY ASTRAY " or mad sweeney . An ancient irish folk tale (also a Heaney poem ) . It said " there is a town in Cabhain (sic) where all the madmen in Ireland are wont to congrgate since ancient times" Cant remember the exact line , but it turns out that that area still has the highest density of psychiatric cases. I think its the bleak countryside and lack of women. Like "stoney grey soil of Monaghan"
@jacksbacksucker Theres a lot of people all along the west of Ireland who are very mediterrean looking. Dark bushy hair, darker skin, brown eyes. It comes from the 1700's and the landing of the Spanish Armada to fight the Brits out.
@Tonyo1221 Actually thats a common misconception. There have always been people in Ireland that look a little darker and more Mediterranean. Some of the original Gaelic tribes that landed in Ireland over 10,000 years ago came from what is now known as Spain. There was a Spanish armada in the 1700's but it was really only a handful of ships and very few of the Spanish sailors stayed more than a couple of years, not enough time to spread their seed significantly. It's been DNA tested and proven.
@Flipper79able I have always been highly scepticle too whether the Armada refugees could really have had such a massive impact. You also see this very dark hair in more isolated parts of Wales, and it is intriguing it's mostly in the West of Ireland, i.e where invaders had least impact. I wonder if it is actually pre celtic altogether. After all the Iberian's could easily have got their very dark hair from later dark age Moorish and Arab invasions etc
@jacksbacksucker Which is what you are saying in a way. The Gael's/Celts came to Ireland probably around 800 B.C to 200 A.D in several waves. Not significantly earlier than this. Some of them did likely come from Iberian peninsular. But the D.N.A is actually showing a much earlier movemenet of Ice age man between these area around 8000 B.C, who became Irelands first neolithic farmers. These account for the strong similarities west irish DNA has to the Basques in Northern Spain
@Flipper79able Its no misconception, there was still thousands of Spanish landed, enough to breed into the genepool and given the different physical characterics it certainly made a lasting difference. Go anywhere in Mayo/Sligo/Donegal and you will see it yourself. Spanish also landed in Cork in the 1700's although only a tiny few but it also may go back much further than that given that Galacia, Northern Spain is in fact one of the original 6 celtic nations.
@Tonyo1221 Actually The Armada explantion is fairly unlikely, 25-30 ships of the Armada was wrecked off west coast of Ireland, and approx 3,000 spaniards were on those vessels. More than half of those died in the waters. The rest were hunted down and put to the sword or fled again to Scotland, Lord Burghly was certain no more than 100 wer ein Ireland a year later, and when Phillip of Spain went to Ireland 8 years later to make inquiries of any survivors he found only 8 men.
@Brengor69 Let me explain this to you clearly. you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 g grandparents etc. a millenia 1,000 years ago you decend from millions of people, more than the entire population of the british isles at that time! This is provable by fact every western european decends from Charlamagne (and probs all his contemporaries too. So certainly the irish decend from every saxon who invaded and bred, as the english decend from every celt.
The fact that a tiny insignificant amount of English DNA is originally from invaded from what was then Germany does not make them Germans historically. if it did so would the Irish. Cork was founded by the Vikings for fecks sake. Neither does speaking a language of germanic origin, as so would most people on this planet, including most irish.
I think what you are trying to say is that all European nationalities are basically from the same stock. Within our common stock we all have our separate national identities which have developed over time. Yes, the British, the French,the Germans, the Irish are all basically the same...BUT we all have our separate cultures borne out of our individual geographic placements. Vive la difference!
@Brengor69 Essentially there is no evidence of a mass influx of Germanic peoples into our isles, displacing the celts, no evidence of mass slaughter. But ALSO this is equally true for the celts. Both were small ruling elites. This is now increasingly accepted opinion by proper scholars of archealogy and ancient history. DNA is the icing on the cake that proves it. Any Englishman who thinks he is a saxon, or irishman who thinks he is a celt is at best deluded.
@Brengor69 Oh and by the way you're also wrong to think the modern mixing of Irish and English only occured in Liverpool. In fact there's always been mixing. the 1901 census alone shows 1 in 5 people in west Scotland were born in Ireland, 1 in 10 in East Scotland, and 1 in 20 people in England. London had a MUCH bigger Irish population than Liverpool, my family are London Irish. Nearly as many came here as went to America during famine, and they've well mixed since!
the Celts mixed-up them-self with the European-Megalith unhabitants not like the Romans who occupied Belgium, Gaul, then Preden and mistreat our ancestors, then the Franks in Belgium and Gaul and the Saxon and of German people finished the job.
I wonder sinds when the Welsh, Walloons, and Scot have the same people as the Flemings ro English.
Sure in Liverpool, the Celtic imigrants especially during the famine in Ireland mixed-up with t he English, but that's another story ^^
any irish person knows ireland belongs to the irish ,but we have these inbred mongrels ,brought over to ireland by their english masters ,who just used them as pawns to take over ireland .now they know their days are numbered.they have no identity ,no country to call their own .love to see an ulster passport lol.tiocfadh ar la,
Im glad Belfast rangers made this post, it just shows how utterly lame and pathetic loyalists and Rangers fanatics like him are, total tramps that everyone hates. John Lennon the greatest songwriter and one of rock's best legends is irish and supported the IRA and everyone nearly everyone loves him. You = Epic FAIL
ireland abandoned the monarchy, becoming a republic and look at Ireland now: an economic basketcase with mountains of debt. you cannot base an entire economy on potatoes, Guiness and leprecauns. the IRA is getting defeated economically
@BelfastRangers2011 ..you sick people in belfast are all the same..im english but u people are a disgrace...u have so much hate ...i hope u will burn in hell
Well said Paul, Ireland belong to Ireland. Not the British. But the Britished have moved onto invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc because they have oil...
Paul Mc Cartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Morrisey, John Lydon, Boy George, Elvis Costello, Noel and Liam Gallagher were all given to England by the Irish.
@Dah4 '' Paul Mc Cartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Morrisey, John Lydon, Boy George, Elvis Costello, Noel and Liam Gallagher were all given to England by the Irish.''
Then according to your logic: Jonathan Swift, George Berkeley, Oliver Goldsmith, Bram Stoker, Oscar Wilde, W.B. Yeats, Cecil Day Lewis, Bernard Shaw, Samuel Beckett, and Elizabeth Bowen. Were given to Ireland by the British
Most people in Britain, don't support a united ireland and even if they did it would mean shit all. The only opinions that matter are the Northern Irishmen's opinions not the British not the Southern Irishmen's. Paul McCartney was from Liverpool, he isn't Northern Irish so he has no right to decide the fate of Northern Ireland. Every time the Northern Irish go to the voting stations the same result comes out, the majority of the citizens of northern Ireland want to remain in union with Britain.
@98raza20 LOL, well I'm British and I don't care about the opinions of Northern Irish people. Most British people don't even consider them British. The British tax payer has spent far too much money in NI - and for nothing. Let them join with the Republic already, it's long over due.
@98raza20 the Orangist-English colons never HAD the rights to steal and spoil they Irish from their land!
"Northen-Ireland is just an English colony in Ireland, they sould never have accepted the 1922 treaty!
Ireland back to the Gaels and Britain back to the Brittons!
the Cornish and Welsh shall joint together and finish Uther Pendragon and Conan Merdiadog's fate! just kidding! But they could be some agreements, right? a peacfull one. the whole Ireland, 32 counties always belong to the Gaels
All You need is love. If we can elect a black president in America, maby someday all the Catholic vs Protestant hate in n. ireland will die with the bigoted old people with one foot in the grave when they go and someday there will be 1 Ireland not two. Lets put all the hate to rest. The Irish flag has both green and orange in it, for one united people. Give peace a chance. Our ancestors all spoke Gaelic anyway.
@0101100101100 Why should prods leave Ireland ? Theyve been there longer than irish in USA an UK an Australia etc...so should all them in lands stolen off natives leave ?Fukin hypocrites...I am a catholic English with Irish blood but Irish prods got every right to stay...lol in fact a lotta folk in Eire have got norman , viking and anglo blood hahaha if they got DNA tests theyd probs shit their HALF Irish pants xD
Funny now Maccas a billionaire and m8s with fatass prince Andrew and lmao Fergie he accepted a knighthood. Why didnt he send it back like the MBE ? I reckon macca is a bit of a phoney and is he FUCK a republican...in fact he probs fukin votes Tory now to save his taxes...great musician..Fake Fail humanitarian fukin comedian.
My dads friend lives by Maccas estate in the S.E and has a horrible story how mean Macca is
@RylandoMusic Errr, have you ever been to Britain? If you canvassed opinion in Britain, I'm pretty sure that you would found quite a few people who support the idea of a Republic.
@tomd2103 Ah, well, a Republican in the U.S. is a member of the Republican Political Party. But anyway, you were still wrong about him giving back his MBE.
@RylandoMusic Wasn't me who made the comment about the MBE!! Obviously got the wires crossed somewhere on the meaning of the term "Republican". On the mainland UK (different in Ireland) it generally refers to people who would like to see the Royal family gone and a Republic declared. I think that was what the other guy meant when he used the term.
@RylandoMusic nah youre a moron....OF COURSE theres republicans in Britain...many ppl dont like having the monarchy and I may be mistaken cuz someone told me all The Beatles returned their MBEs but what I said is true anyhow about macca....i like Beatles music but it doesnt mean theyre perfect as ppl
@XxpauldadudexX I'm very sorry. Being American, I am not used to Republican referring to someone wanting a republic. I don't see why anyone would want a republic in Britian in the first place, anyway. It basically is one.
@RylandoMusic Haha it's ok....it's a misunderstanding.Most people don't want a republic but some do. Your'e right though that Britains' like a republic really as the Queen is just a figurehead. I think she's allright tbh and won't lose her head like Charles I did ;D
@Gonzoidzz Ha ha, I was only joking and am not even a Rangers fan. I think you are right by the way on the subject of Scottish independence. If it does happen (and I think it is still a big if) then the union would surely be called into question. To be honest, I think there would be quite a few people here in England happy enough if the Union were to be absolved, but am not sure if the Loyalist communities in NI would be overly delighted!!
@Gonzoidzz Hey the prods aren't like you say - theyre very industrial, orderly and effecient - actually like the Germans..imagine if we put the 2 'sides' together and worked together what we could achieve..unstoppable!!
I propose an area where irish and british live together in communities and build a super state - wait a min?? ;)
@RichardElden True,but check how many books there are about Wellkington,and then Napoleon.People are still interested in Napoleon in a way they are not by Wellington,Napoleon comes out of history as a truly exceptional leader.
@mrwacer1 Check how many europeans were grateful for Napoleon..NONE...Check how many europeans died , especially French under napoleon...he was a arrogant genocidal maniac and he never invented metric system...it was just implemented under him.Wellington was a great soldier but a tory toff bastard as a politician who hated Irish and poor Brits..i.e Peterloo massacre...they were both egomaniac cunts who were shitty as loving caring human beings and both shoulda been beheaded as murderers
@RichardElden Wellinton was just a good soldier.Napoleon conqured most of Europe,introduced the modern French legal system,the metic system of measurement,emancipated the Jews and much more.Wellington was not in the same league.
@RichardElden Nonsense, if the Brits were so powerful how come Napoleon conqured Europe, and Wellington could only beat him with the help of the Prussians?Check out the Napoleonic wars.Napoleon was the most powerful man on earth.
@RichardElden I think Napoleon would have disagreed with that load of cobblers.And Scotland joined England in 1707.Until the battle of Waterloo the French were the most powerful nation on earth.
"I invade your house, I rape your wife, spank your children and later we talk about divide your house, share the same space, equal rights, get along and have peace... DEAL?" NOT FOR ME!!!
@GlasgowRangers2009 ...Fuck up & learn how to spell. 'Racked'? You mean 'Wrecked'. Lol, I'm willing to bet you're from Belfast. You don't spell words based on accents. Get an education instead of being a sectarian arsehole.
Paul should never have spoken about something he knew little about.
I ,as are my children ,am Irish. British Northern Irish. And the IRA spent 40 yrs murdering innocent British Northern Irish people who wanted to remain within the United Kingdom.
Even now the only threat to peace within Northern Ireland is from Irish Republican Extremists.The British Northern Irish Protestants & Catholics want to live in peace. Republican Extremists , just like Islamic Extremists ,dont.
@63gc Things were very different at the time when Paul spoke out, though. Things are obviously a lot better now for all concerned in both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland and all that, but it took a helluva long time to make that happen. Paul's song had more relevancy and credibility back then.
@danning1 I imagine Pauls main concern was not Ireland for the Irish.But money for the bank. My family are as Irish as anyone on this Island. But i am a British Northern Irish Protestant.This land belongs to me, my family & my Catholic neighbours.What we had in this country was not some romantic armed struggle.The IRA murdered more Catholic than the British Army over the last 40 yrs.No one shouts that fact too loudly.
And it is still Irish Republican Extremists who want to wreck the peace.
@63gc your talkin a load of crap. The IRA didnt kill more catholics than the british army, thats a complete and utter over-statement, which, of course, you already knew.
And the UVF, LLF, Red Hand Commandos... killed more innocent than the IRA!
the IRA sinds 1922 are just resitants! They're just like the Fenians! they protect the land of the Irish, and of course there are casualties amongst civilians, some innoncent but not all. They're keeping a land STOLEN by their fucking monster-accenters! The Gaels in the Middle-Age were quite more civilised the the Black & Tans! Just watch The Wind that Shakes the Barley
if ye'de by christian ye'de know there isn't peace without justice!
Never steal a land from someone! What had been stolen from the Irish, and all the Celts must be given back to them! Agus mar sin tiocfaidh siocháin ar ais! :) Amen! the Irish christians have little in common with the pope, and without Henry the 4th there woudln't be protesant. He wasn't happy with the decision of the pope so he mad up a new religion, that fitted him-self. Instead of joining another christian religion
@Brengor69 I mean the Celts and gaels after all are NOT the original inhabitants of these lands, they were as much invaders as their cousin Germanics. They stole the land from the natives too. So really by your way of thinking justice was done when it was stole away from them too. Wiki 'Senchineoil' the original inbitants 'enslaved' by the Gaelic invaders of Galway who to create the Uí Maine.
@Brengor69 And it was Henry VIII not the 4th who broke with the pope. England had a long history of non conformity anyway, the Lollards for example. The Protestant reformation swept across Europe, and there were plenty of supporters in England. Two out of three of Henrys children and succesors were Protestants, one a calvinist, so the reformation would have happened anyway.
@Brengor69 Basically I think your part of the problem in ireland, someone not living in the real world. Your stuck in the past, much of it invented and semi mythical. Peace in Ireland is more important than a united Ireland, and the only path towardsthat anyway iss equal respect for all the peoples, religions and creeds that inhabit the land, however they got there, not daft talk about long dead 'Saxons' and Gaels'. If you want to be a 'Celt' invent a time machine.
@RichardElden And England was in a world war with France. Even today if you don't have an English sounding name you are considered not American. You are an in an ethnic group.
@Protuner06 go watch "chomsky explains cold war in five minutes" then you can actually claim willful ignorance and reassert my almost certain knowledge that you're an imbecile. america doesnt need to take over, it occupies the territory makes everything free market by "liberating", buys the land with oil for a dime and leaves when its bellies full, if you think different then your government is doing well at keeping you in the status of absolute berk!!
Nrthn Ireland back to the Irish. But make sure to get a signed pledge from every Irish man and woman that they accept full responsibility from the date of transfer. Pay all their debts, pay 'em out of EU membership; make em truly free and independant, but responsible for themselves from that day on.
It'll be success or failure. Whichever it's down to them; no comeback on anyone else. It would help to tell the Pope, Paisley, IRA and Unionists to piss off as well.
@corpbs1 Does Ireland even want Ulster back, surely it's more trouble than it's worth for them. Fact of why there was no call from them or even Ulster Catholics between 1949-68 was with universal education, health care, the welfare state and unemployment at that point under a quarter of a million in the UK there was no way the South of Ireland could replicate that. People in the South were fighting to get over to England, so what hope could they have of upholding the North's living standards
how about that 1 england 2 member from ur greatest ever band singing about how evil you really are. yous are the real terrorists use butchered irish ppl for hundreds of years but when we fight back we become the terrorists.
just like kennedy who came over here, jumped out of his car giving the i am in front of the reporters before running over to a soldier and started poking him shouting why dont you go home",well the solider simply replied with his irish accent " i am home sir why dont you go home"..which shows these people had no idea what there doing
fuck the north theim orange bastard let them keep it
MrRK3568 20 hours ago
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In Britain we don't want it either, but as we have 100% sovereinty rights we couldn't give in to terrorism. Best thing: give it back to France, can't imagine they'd want it though.
WrightsW5 1 day ago
I'm Irish and i say keep the north,we don't want it,cant handle it,and not able to afford it, Jesus look what we done to our 26 counties and people really expect us to take on 6 more,we cant even drive on our roads or get sick because both warrant a death sentence down here
4dger 1 day ago
MrRobertJameson ---> so pathetic
0marabou 2 days ago
So glad Linda died of cancer.
MrRobertJameson 4 days ago
@MrRobertJameson Hopefully you will too, and the sooner the better.
Vox91 11 hours ago
Yes
urbankhat65 1 week ago
Ireland belongs to the Irish end of,but get this sanctimonious prick he owns swathes of Scotland,give it back to the poor you dick.
urbankhat65 2 weeks ago
@urbankhat65 ...yeah because, he hasnt spent practically his whole life earning what he has, right?...gotta be a fucking liberal...
jillzi7 1 week ago
@urbankhat65 would you rather him horde his money and spend not a dime in scotland?
ajgolfer1 1 week ago
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Hmm! Shame Ireland isn't still under French control, Britain being linked to a country whose inhabitants think murder victims should burn in hell is sad! & If Ireland was still French it would be a united ireland - no fucking way would they give away the land known as The Republic like Britain did.
WrightsW5 2 weeks ago
pauls mum was from castle blayney county monaghan why wouldnt he write a civil rights song
MrEverthere 2 weeks ago
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LordLindsey12 3 weeks ago
would you dare sing this shit in front of an audience of victims families McArsehole? If i'd been stupid enough to have an excreatles record collection i'd burn it.
WrightsW5 3 weeks ago
@WrightsW5 ha ha i hope they burn in hell ha ha ha
IRAneverbeaten 2 weeks ago
I'm ex-British infantry and I agree with a united Ireland. In fact, most British squaddies I served with did too. Seems so stupid that we kill each other over a flag.
mycal64 3 weeks ago
3 down at milltown
bye bye john lennon
Trance1220 1 month ago
Ireland for the Irish. Good on ya Paul.
SeasonViolet 1 month ago
fuck off macca, you boring droopy eyes pain in the arse
amaya8182 1 month ago
@amaya8182 amaya8182 you fuck off you twat get a life and macca sez fuck u too small brain
artzysmartzy 1 month ago
The british government a repressive regime? No!
fabulousgerro66 1 month ago
look we all know its more complicated then this,but at the time the british had introduced interment, which many innocent people got caught up in.paul and even some of the soldiers at the time ,viewed this as very excessive and oppressive.it was a raw time, and he wrote a raw song
MrCol52 1 month ago
@BelfastRangers2011 all the Beatles were part Gael! If ye read their biography or visit the Albert Dock museum ye'll find that out!
Geoge was half Irish, John and Paul a 1/4 to be honest. Ye'd be right as Irish means Celt born or living in Ireland. So technicly speaking they weren't Irish but had load of cousins struggeling for civil rights.
Brengor69 2 months ago
Nice Macca, but once again some mixing up: the English are Saxons, Angels and Franks and Jutes as well, so Germans, all those people belong to the Germanic civilisation.
the British are the Celts from Britain + the Picts!
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 Macca of course is a singer no historian so can perhaps be forgiven. Of course the Angles, Saxons, celtic tribes no longer exist. The Modern day English, Irish, Welsh, and Scots are none of those, but decendants of all them. In fact 75% of our genes are pre-indo european, the stone age farmes who built Stonehenge, skara brae. It makes sense when you think they were already here for what 20,000 years plus when the above Indo-Euopean tribes started arriving past 3,000 years or so.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker ? there is no tribes anymore in the Celtic Civilisation, ok; the English aren't Celtc ok, but Irish, Welsh and Scots are Celts! Cause they just belong to that civilisation. I don't know about any pourcentage of genes but the Celtc from central Europe mixed them up with the Megalith(Europeans like Bascs and Hungarian and Finish) people. I wonder why the bare desapeared from Ireland 3000 years ago...
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 The fact is the Irish and the English are the same people. A geneticist would not be able to tell from blind samples which was which. This is because 75% of our genes actually comes from the people who have lived in these isels the longest (stands to reason) the stone age farmers who built stone hengge/skara brae etc. They have been in these isles for 10 times the Indo-Euopeans. The Indo-Europeans themselves were a war like aristocratic class who had limited effect genetically.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 The Celts in other words came in and ruled an existing population, as overlords, as did their cousins the romans, and cousins the germanics, saxons vikings, normans etc. This is provable by the fact their languages have made an imprint, but there no evidence of mass population exterminations or replacement. It is fairly pointless to make any distinction between Gemanic Indo-euopeans and celtic indo-europeans, close cousins. But I would agrue that England is as celtic as Ireland.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 This is evidenced alone by the fact the great hero os King Arthur, Celtic King of the Britons. In london Boaddika, Celtic Queen of the Iceni, statue is in pride of place...no statues of Thor, Wodin or Loki. Even the term British refers to the Celtic past. But in any case the modern irish and english are not celts, or saxons, or pre-indo euopeans, these are gone historic people, we are decendants of those people in mixed measure, but new different peoples in our own right.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker Well, I really wondered wher ye lernt tat the modern Irish aren't Celts! lol
Each people belong to a civilisation!
In fact the Irish are quite different to the English the Indo-European aren't a people but a GROUP o civilisations and the Gaels and English are very not the same people! :p They don't think the same way, don't speak the same, don't party the same way ...
Well, I don't know if ye heard of the Gaelic Clearence. But if that isn't a genocide I wonder.
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 You're entrenched in a way of thinking which has it's roots in 19th century nationalism. The idea that in the modern age the irish are 'Celts' or 'Gaels' and the English are 'Saxons' or 'Angles' is equally as daft. These are tribes that existed a millenia ago. It's like saying you're a scythian. The Irish and English are BOTH decended from both sets of tribes, and plenty of other peoples before and since besides.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker ye got it all mixed-up! 1st of all Celts and Gaels I wonder who the fuck told ye the were tribes! Gaels = people; Celts = civilisation. it's like a teacher from a igh school in Liverpool said to the class: Welsh is not a real language, it only got 600-800 words! The Hell I wasn't brave enough to put back her at her place but she was the "teacher"-layer.
2ndly NO one need a time machine to be a Celt !!! Celts are still alive! They're are a present civilisation, and proud!
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 Nope your mixed up. Celt comes from the Greek Keltoi, it probably originally refered to one specific alpine tribal group, not the gaels, brits, picts even. But in the 18th century linguists revived the term as a convenient label to group certain related languages. It doesn't neccesarily even follow that more than a handful of these people were ever in our isles, after all look how widely spoken English is, the celts much the same, a ruling caste imposing their tongue through force.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker Celt don't come Keltoi and Irish aren't Saxons! Sinds when would they?
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 But wrong though you are, you do back up my point, if the peoples of Britian and Ireland ever had a germanic cultural identity, or celtic, they don't know..it is 'historicly'. Celts, Saxons, Angles, Scythians, Biblical Hebrews are all ancient history. British, Irish are different modern people.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 'Nationalism then came as a force in the 19th century, and this led to people mistakenly trying to use these lingustic terms to differentiate themselves. For example The irish are exactly the same as the English, a mix mostly of neolithic genes, with a small bit of celt, viking, saxon added later, identical. But by picking out that one part of the irish identity the nationalists hope to say 'we are different from the english'. But the english are of course historically as celtic.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker Historicly English are Germans!
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jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 Some Germans immigrated into England and Ireland in the 18th century and 19th. Some German Jews in 20th century. I think what you in fact mean is the English people talk a language which is decended from what linguists term 'Germanic' languages. That language was bought here by a tiny amount of invaders from what is now Denmark and North W Germany. Every Irishman alive decends from those people as does every Englishman. This is because they cam 450-600 A.D
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker Actually thats not true . RECENT DNA studies show that 90% of irish people are PRE -Celtic. 2 % are viking (roughly ) and the rest are mixed CELT +others . That means that the population here is descended from the megalitic peoples about 7,000 years ago (same for scots +sme welsh ). Same as in England .>The "invasions" simply replaced the Ruling class and costoms, there was NO big migration of peoples.
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jacksbacksucker 1 month ago
@jacksbacksucker But I would say there's not 'Viking' Irish people walking around, even 2%, but rather all irish people have a small amount of viking DNA, as high as 2% in some. When you think about the amount of ancestors you have a thousand years back, you are almost certainly a decendant of every 'tribe' alive then and before.
jacksbacksucker 1 month ago
@jacksbacksucker That comment was meant for me i think . Actually its actually 98 % of redheads (of which im one ) are either megalithic and a small number of viking . thats where the REDS come from . Celts are naturally dark skined and dark haired. If you look at true aran islanders , they have mediteraenean features , same boats also , currach and the same "sail" as used on the Nile .......about the amount of tribes , Id doubt the thousands.......
olliephelan 1 month ago
@olliephelan Olliphelan, Why do you doubt it? The number of ancestors you have doubles with each generation. You have 4 grandparents, 8 g-grandparents, 16 g-g grandparents, 32 3xg granparents, 64 4xg grandparents, 128 5xg granparents, etc. By your 10x grandparents you are already in the thousands, 1,024 direct ancestors. In general it's about 30 generations back to the normans 1000 A.D, and you by then have ancestors in the millions, by Charlemagne, trillions, more people than
jacksbacksucker 1 month ago
@olliephelan was alive on the planet at that time. This impossibility is explained by cousin marriages, and fact some ancestors you decend from many times over. This is why for example the Aran islanders may shows different features to dubliners. They will both decend from celts, vikings, mediteraneans, but in slightly differing proportion. Interestingly they got DNA from a black African buried 1250 AD in Norfolk recently, and every white person tested in the county was a decendant!
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@olliephelan Olliephelan, the study I refer to was stephen oppenheimers. I'd be interested in the reference for this new study thats puts the pre-celtic genome as high as 90, he put it as 75%. But yes does confirm what is now accepted thought that the all the Indo-European peoples Latins, Celts, Germancis, etc came in as a small ruling caste (same in India).
jacksbacksucker 1 month ago
@jacksbacksucker . Ireland remained pretty much "undiluted" until the normans , RELATIVE to the rest of europe .The four invasions ending with the celts were just the ruling class , and even the normans were simply a few mercenaries who had superior technology and therefore ruled. They population stayed much the same . Cavan has the most psychiatric problems in ireland / most cousin inbreeding. Even mentioned in " mad sweeney" from 1,000 years ago .
olliephelan 1 month ago
@olliephelan Interesting what you say about the cavaner's though. My people are from South Leitrim, and all have straight dark black hair, look very meditteranean, Jewish, no redheads in our family. No madness either...yet. ;)
jacksbacksucker 1 month ago
@jacksbacksucker Yeah " SWEENEY ASTRAY " or mad sweeney . An ancient irish folk tale (also a Heaney poem ) . It said " there is a town in Cabhain (sic) where all the madmen in Ireland are wont to congrgate since ancient times" Cant remember the exact line , but it turns out that that area still has the highest density of psychiatric cases. I think its the bleak countryside and lack of women. Like "stoney grey soil of Monaghan"
olliephelan 1 month ago
@jacksbacksucker Theres a lot of people all along the west of Ireland who are very mediterrean looking. Dark bushy hair, darker skin, brown eyes. It comes from the 1700's and the landing of the Spanish Armada to fight the Brits out.
Tonyo1221 1 month ago
@Tonyo1221 Not all the Spanish are brown haired and wiht dark skin or blakc eyes. That can be a myth.
AthThawra 1 month ago
@Tonyo1221 No just that! Dun forget: celts migrated there many centuries ago from Iberian peninsula.
Hollandia777 3 weeks ago
@Tonyo1221 Actually thats a common misconception. There have always been people in Ireland that look a little darker and more Mediterranean. Some of the original Gaelic tribes that landed in Ireland over 10,000 years ago came from what is now known as Spain. There was a Spanish armada in the 1700's but it was really only a handful of ships and very few of the Spanish sailors stayed more than a couple of years, not enough time to spread their seed significantly. It's been DNA tested and proven.
Flipper79able 3 weeks ago
@Flipper79able I have always been highly scepticle too whether the Armada refugees could really have had such a massive impact. You also see this very dark hair in more isolated parts of Wales, and it is intriguing it's mostly in the West of Ireland, i.e where invaders had least impact. I wonder if it is actually pre celtic altogether. After all the Iberian's could easily have got their very dark hair from later dark age Moorish and Arab invasions etc
jacksbacksucker 3 weeks ago
@jacksbacksucker Which is what you are saying in a way. The Gael's/Celts came to Ireland probably around 800 B.C to 200 A.D in several waves. Not significantly earlier than this. Some of them did likely come from Iberian peninsular. But the D.N.A is actually showing a much earlier movemenet of Ice age man between these area around 8000 B.C, who became Irelands first neolithic farmers. These account for the strong similarities west irish DNA has to the Basques in Northern Spain
jacksbacksucker 3 weeks ago
@Flipper79able Its no misconception, there was still thousands of Spanish landed, enough to breed into the genepool and given the different physical characterics it certainly made a lasting difference. Go anywhere in Mayo/Sligo/Donegal and you will see it yourself. Spanish also landed in Cork in the 1700's although only a tiny few but it also may go back much further than that given that Galacia, Northern Spain is in fact one of the original 6 celtic nations.
Tonyo1221 3 weeks ago
@Tonyo1221 Actually The Armada explantion is fairly unlikely, 25-30 ships of the Armada was wrecked off west coast of Ireland, and approx 3,000 spaniards were on those vessels. More than half of those died in the waters. The rest were hunted down and put to the sword or fled again to Scotland, Lord Burghly was certain no more than 100 wer ein Ireland a year later, and when Phillip of Spain went to Ireland 8 years later to make inquiries of any survivors he found only 8 men.
jacksbacksucker 3 weeks ago
@Tonyo1221 Okay, believe what you want but I've studied this and what you explained is a common misconception. Peace.
Flipper79able 2 weeks ago
@Brengor69 Let me explain this to you clearly. you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 g grandparents etc. a millenia 1,000 years ago you decend from millions of people, more than the entire population of the british isles at that time! This is provable by fact every western european decends from Charlamagne (and probs all his contemporaries too. So certainly the irish decend from every saxon who invaded and bred, as the english decend from every celt.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
The fact that a tiny insignificant amount of English DNA is originally from invaded from what was then Germany does not make them Germans historically. if it did so would the Irish. Cork was founded by the Vikings for fecks sake. Neither does speaking a language of germanic origin, as so would most people on this planet, including most irish.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker
I think what you are trying to say is that all European nationalities are basically from the same stock. Within our common stock we all have our separate national identities which have developed over time. Yes, the British, the French,the Germans, the Irish are all basically the same...BUT we all have our separate cultures borne out of our individual geographic placements. Vive la difference!
mark57153 1 month ago
@Brengor69 Essentially there is no evidence of a mass influx of Germanic peoples into our isles, displacing the celts, no evidence of mass slaughter. But ALSO this is equally true for the celts. Both were small ruling elites. This is now increasingly accepted opinion by proper scholars of archealogy and ancient history. DNA is the icing on the cake that proves it. Any Englishman who thinks he is a saxon, or irishman who thinks he is a celt is at best deluded.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 Oh and by the way you're also wrong to think the modern mixing of Irish and English only occured in Liverpool. In fact there's always been mixing. the 1901 census alone shows 1 in 5 people in west Scotland were born in Ireland, 1 in 10 in East Scotland, and 1 in 20 people in England. London had a MUCH bigger Irish population than Liverpool, my family are London Irish. Nearly as many came here as went to America during famine, and they've well mixed since!
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@jacksbacksucker Cac! Níl an ceart agatsa! I NEVER thought that liverpool was the only place where mixing happend! Ye made it up!
Brengor69 2 months ago
the Celts mixed-up them-self with the European-Megalith unhabitants not like the Romans who occupied Belgium, Gaul, then Preden and mistreat our ancestors, then the Franks in Belgium and Gaul and the Saxon and of German people finished the job.
I wonder sinds when the Welsh, Walloons, and Scot have the same people as the Flemings ro English.
Sure in Liverpool, the Celtic imigrants especially during the famine in Ireland mixed-up with t he English, but that's another story ^^
Brengor69 2 months ago
Nice Macca! but once again the English are Saxon, Angles and Franks so Germans!
And British = Celt from Britain + Picts
Brengor69 2 months ago
any irish person knows ireland belongs to the irish ,but we have these inbred mongrels ,brought over to ireland by their english masters ,who just used them as pawns to take over ireland .now they know their days are numbered.they have no identity ,no country to call their own .love to see an ulster passport lol.tiocfadh ar la,
fallsman1888 2 months ago
YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH PAUL.THE POLITICIANS JUST CAN'T TAKE IT.
cazmac65 2 months ago
@RichardElden
Fuck off you tramp
kevy06 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 brits go home
blackraider777 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 you stupid little boy ...go and listen to scooter ha ha u idiot...i think its past your bedtime
MrWoppers 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 fair play
3tangle3 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 UVF are also terrorists to be fair....i didnt like it when they blew up 3 protestants in a power station...was a bit daft like
3tangle3 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011
I like you deleted you original comment you coward
kevy06 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011
Im glad Belfast rangers made this post, it just shows how utterly lame and pathetic loyalists and Rangers fanatics like him are, total tramps that everyone hates. John Lennon the greatest songwriter and one of rock's best legends is irish and supported the IRA and everyone nearly everyone loves him. You = Epic FAIL
kevy06 2 months ago
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ireland abandoned the monarchy, becoming a republic and look at Ireland now: an economic basketcase with mountains of debt. you cannot base an entire economy on potatoes, Guiness and leprecauns. the IRA is getting defeated economically
TheAnglopride 2 months ago
@RichardElden why u horrible little cunt
lovemunster 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 if your from belfast and your saying this shit you should be fucking ashamed of yourself .....
gearsofwar404 2 months ago
@MrWoppers
its your countrys fault you you dopey tit.
SpliffTrickzz 2 months ago
@BelfastRangers2011 ..you sick people in belfast are all the same..im english but u people are a disgrace...u have so much hate ...i hope u will burn in hell
MrWoppers 2 months ago
Well said Paul, Ireland belong to Ireland. Not the British. But the Britished have moved onto invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc because they have oil...
steffyweffy777 3 months ago
HEARD HE COULD NOT THE "THE LEG" OVER, PERHAPS THATS HIS PROBLEM.
Flamorgan 3 months ago
@RichardElden Why are there so many hateful people, I hope you die of lung cancer and also a lot of pain.
keaton1895 3 months ago
@RichardElden You are an evil person.
keaton1895 3 months ago
Maybe she was but who knows. Hopefully some day you will find out yourself.
Dah4 3 months ago
@RichardElden I'm sure Paul and Ringo are still hanging there just to spite you. Prick.
Dah4 3 months ago
@RichardElden Sure they were crap, they only shaped British popular culture over the last 40 years.
Dah4 3 months ago
@RichardElden shut tfu you tit
bansheewhiskey 3 months ago
@RichardElden fuck spain
bansheewhiskey 3 months ago
strange boy :(
spinlessbastard1 3 months ago
Martin McGuinness for President.
MrBillyhunchback 3 months ago
Give Ireland to a Nazi Europe?
ElDudeish 3 months ago
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Shouting at the dog....thats funny as hell
Paranormresearch 4 months ago
Paul Mc Cartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Morrisey, John Lydon, Boy George, Elvis Costello, Noel and Liam Gallagher were all given to England by the Irish.
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@Dah4 '' Paul Mc Cartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Morrisey, John Lydon, Boy George, Elvis Costello, Noel and Liam Gallagher were all given to England by the Irish.''
Then according to your logic: Jonathan Swift, George Berkeley, Oliver Goldsmith, Bram Stoker, Oscar Wilde, W.B. Yeats, Cecil Day Lewis, Bernard Shaw, Samuel Beckett, and Elizabeth Bowen. Were given to Ireland by the British
LordGodofMercy 3 months ago
@Dah4 the last one im not to proud of but the rest are fine
jdig1984 3 months ago
@jdig1984 Not a fan either but his Aunt and cousins live in my area so its cool on some level.
Dah4 3 months ago
GIVE IRELAND BACK TO THE BRITISH
jed371 4 months ago
@jed371 NO GET THE FUCK OUT BITCH!
JordoF6 4 months ago
Most people in Britain, don't support a united ireland and even if they did it would mean shit all. The only opinions that matter are the Northern Irishmen's opinions not the British not the Southern Irishmen's. Paul McCartney was from Liverpool, he isn't Northern Irish so he has no right to decide the fate of Northern Ireland. Every time the Northern Irish go to the voting stations the same result comes out, the majority of the citizens of northern Ireland want to remain in union with Britain.
98raza20 5 months ago
@98raza20 LOL, well I'm British and I don't care about the opinions of Northern Irish people. Most British people don't even consider them British. The British tax payer has spent far too much money in NI - and for nothing. Let them join with the Republic already, it's long over due.
smileyfacemug 5 months ago
@smileyfacemug well said mate!!! wish the northern irish prods would listen to everone else lol
weewheels24 3 months ago
@98raza20 the Orangist-English colons never HAD the rights to steal and spoil they Irish from their land!
"Northen-Ireland is just an English colony in Ireland, they sould never have accepted the 1922 treaty!
Ireland back to the Gaels and Britain back to the Brittons!
the Cornish and Welsh shall joint together and finish Uther Pendragon and Conan Merdiadog's fate! just kidding! But they could be some agreements, right? a peacfull one. the whole Ireland, 32 counties always belong to the Gaels
Brengor69 2 months ago
@RichardElden Ha-Ha you lost!!
Felici003 5 months ago
They'd give it back if they could - check some of the opinion polls, GB wants rid of it.
HLecterPHD 6 months ago
How's it go give PEACE a chance nothing else is working and for the record I'm Australian
Jackupnow 6 months ago
All You need is love. If we can elect a black president in America, maby someday all the Catholic vs Protestant hate in n. ireland will die with the bigoted old people with one foot in the grave when they go and someday there will be 1 Ireland not two. Lets put all the hate to rest. The Irish flag has both green and orange in it, for one united people. Give peace a chance. Our ancestors all spoke Gaelic anyway.
SummernlightningUSA 6 months ago
@0101100101100 Why should prods leave Ireland ? Theyve been there longer than irish in USA an UK an Australia etc...so should all them in lands stolen off natives leave ?Fukin hypocrites...I am a catholic English with Irish blood but Irish prods got every right to stay...lol in fact a lotta folk in Eire have got norman , viking and anglo blood hahaha if they got DNA tests theyd probs shit their HALF Irish pants xD
XxpauldadudexX 7 months ago
@XxpauldadudexX well, they'd rather do it fo r their half Norman or Enlish pants!
A people isn't JUST a bout DNA!
and if it would be the case it would be time to get rid of the invaders and let their "DNA's" fade with time
Brengor69 2 months ago
Funny now Maccas a billionaire and m8s with fatass prince Andrew and lmao Fergie he accepted a knighthood. Why didnt he send it back like the MBE ? I reckon macca is a bit of a phoney and is he FUCK a republican...in fact he probs fukin votes Tory now to save his taxes...great musician..Fake Fail humanitarian fukin comedian.
My dads friend lives by Maccas estate in the S.E and has a horrible story how mean Macca is
XxpauldadudexX 7 months ago
@XxpauldadudexX Paul McCartney didn't even send back his MBE. John did. And I'm pretty sure they don't have Republicans in Britian. You're a moron.
RylandoMusic 7 months ago
@RylandoMusic Errr, have you ever been to Britain? If you canvassed opinion in Britain, I'm pretty sure that you would found quite a few people who support the idea of a Republic.
tomd2103 7 months ago
@tomd2103 Ah, well, a Republican in the U.S. is a member of the Republican Political Party. But anyway, you were still wrong about him giving back his MBE.
RylandoMusic 7 months ago
@RylandoMusic Wasn't me who made the comment about the MBE!! Obviously got the wires crossed somewhere on the meaning of the term "Republican". On the mainland UK (different in Ireland) it generally refers to people who would like to see the Royal family gone and a Republic declared. I think that was what the other guy meant when he used the term.
tomd2103 7 months ago
@RylandoMusic nah youre a moron....OF COURSE theres republicans in Britain...many ppl dont like having the monarchy and I may be mistaken cuz someone told me all The Beatles returned their MBEs but what I said is true anyhow about macca....i like Beatles music but it doesnt mean theyre perfect as ppl
XxpauldadudexX 7 months ago
@XxpauldadudexX I'm very sorry. Being American, I am not used to Republican referring to someone wanting a republic. I don't see why anyone would want a republic in Britian in the first place, anyway. It basically is one.
RylandoMusic 7 months ago
@RylandoMusic Haha it's ok....it's a misunderstanding.Most people don't want a republic but some do. Your'e right though that Britains' like a republic really as the Queen is just a figurehead. I think she's allright tbh and won't lose her head like Charles I did ;D
XxpauldadudexX 7 months ago
@XxpauldadudexX Only Lennon returned his MBE (in typical Lennon style with a sarcastic letter to the Queen)
thenowuk 5 months ago
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@RylandoMusic "And I'm pretty sure they don't have Republicans in Britian. You're a moron".
LMFAO,I take it your american..
1984ioc 7 months ago
If the loyalists don't want to be Irish then get the fuck out.
Prods are the most untalented, unimaginative bunch going, that's why Celtic have all the celeb fans and the huns have Andy Cameron. lol.
Gonzoidzz 7 months ago
@Gonzoidzz "Prods are the most untalented, unimaginative bunch going, that's why Celtic have all the celeb fans and the huns have Andy Cameron".
The "prods" are also the most powerful though, that's why Rangers have 54 league titles and counting and Northern Ireland remains British. Lol.
tomd2103 7 months ago
@tomd2103
I'd wait for the HMRC verdict, hun. Insolvency awaits. And NI will be Irish soop enough just like Scotland will have its independence. GIRFUY Buh-ly
Gonzoidzz 7 months ago
@Gonzoidzz Ha ha, I was only joking and am not even a Rangers fan. I think you are right by the way on the subject of Scottish independence. If it does happen (and I think it is still a big if) then the union would surely be called into question. To be honest, I think there would be quite a few people here in England happy enough if the Union were to be absolved, but am not sure if the Loyalist communities in NI would be overly delighted!!
tomd2103 7 months ago
@Gonzoidzz Hey the prods aren't like you say - theyre very industrial, orderly and effecient - actually like the Germans..imagine if we put the 2 'sides' together and worked together what we could achieve..unstoppable!!
I propose an area where irish and british live together in communities and build a super state - wait a min?? ;)
Paulfieldz 4 months ago
@Paulfieldz Wait a min?
bagies 3 months ago
lol paul yelling at the dog was so funny. such a real everyday moment!
LadyScorpio39 8 months ago
@MsJCBurke
i think you meant noble :L
Rawwwrrrgasmified 8 months ago
up the fuckin uvf
up the prods , NORTHERN IRELAND FOREVER yeoooooo
no surrender ! !
leathlebizzle 9 months ago
@leathlebizzle No surrender to what?
ranbrent 8 months ago
ta wuena la song!!
victorecr1992 9 months ago
@RichardElden True,but check how many books there are about Wellkington,and then Napoleon.People are still interested in Napoleon in a way they are not by Wellington,Napoleon comes out of history as a truly exceptional leader.
mrwacer1 9 months ago
@mrwacer1 Check how many europeans were grateful for Napoleon..NONE...Check how many europeans died , especially French under napoleon...he was a arrogant genocidal maniac and he never invented metric system...it was just implemented under him.Wellington was a great soldier but a tory toff bastard as a politician who hated Irish and poor Brits..i.e Peterloo massacre...they were both egomaniac cunts who were shitty as loving caring human beings and both shoulda been beheaded as murderers
XxpauldadudexX 7 months ago
@RichardElden Wellinton was just a good soldier.Napoleon conqured most of Europe,introduced the modern French legal system,the metic system of measurement,emancipated the Jews and much more.Wellington was not in the same league.
mrwacer1 9 months ago
@RichardElden Nonsense, if the Brits were so powerful how come Napoleon conqured Europe, and Wellington could only beat him with the help of the Prussians?Check out the Napoleonic wars.Napoleon was the most powerful man on earth.
mrwacer1 9 months ago
@RichardElden I think Napoleon would have disagreed with that load of cobblers.And Scotland joined England in 1707.Until the battle of Waterloo the French were the most powerful nation on earth.
mrwacer1 9 months ago
@RichardElden well the crowns were joined in 1603.
jamboliboli 9 months ago
"I invade your house, I rape your wife, spank your children and later we talk about divide your house, share the same space, equal rights, get along and have peace... DEAL?" NOT FOR ME!!!
fernandomullen 9 months ago
@GlasgowRangers2009 ...Fuck up & learn how to spell. 'Racked'? You mean 'Wrecked'. Lol, I'm willing to bet you're from Belfast. You don't spell words based on accents. Get an education instead of being a sectarian arsehole.
WakeUpDead1200 9 months ago
lmao "SHUT UP!"
Msemospongebob 10 months ago
@RichardElden
you must be so retarded in a real live. However, on the internet you are hero!
JohnnyThunder2 10 months ago
@RichardElden You sound like a very warped person.
bornwithoutwarning 11 months ago
This was before luck of the irish Ireland salutes you Paul
firbolg1963 11 months ago
@RichardElden I say again you're a fucking dickhead
wolfwhistle07 11 months ago
@RichardElden your a f--kinf dickhead lad
wolfwhistle07 11 months ago
Scotland, it should be remembered took up the Union of the crowns because it was good for them, bu then, as usual, England changed the goalposts
Briginvdb 11 months ago
Paul should never have spoken about something he knew little about.
I ,as are my children ,am Irish. British Northern Irish. And the IRA spent 40 yrs murdering innocent British Northern Irish people who wanted to remain within the United Kingdom.
Even now the only threat to peace within Northern Ireland is from Irish Republican Extremists.The British Northern Irish Protestants & Catholics want to live in peace. Republican Extremists , just like Islamic Extremists ,dont.
Speak Up Paul...
63gc 11 months ago
@63gc Things were very different at the time when Paul spoke out, though. Things are obviously a lot better now for all concerned in both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland and all that, but it took a helluva long time to make that happen. Paul's song had more relevancy and credibility back then.
danning1 11 months ago
@danning1 I imagine Pauls main concern was not Ireland for the Irish.But money for the bank. My family are as Irish as anyone on this Island. But i am a British Northern Irish Protestant.This land belongs to me, my family & my Catholic neighbours.What we had in this country was not some romantic armed struggle.The IRA murdered more Catholic than the British Army over the last 40 yrs.No one shouts that fact too loudly.
And it is still Irish Republican Extremists who want to wreck the peace.
63gc 11 months ago
@63gc your talkin a load of crap. The IRA didnt kill more catholics than the british army, thats a complete and utter over-statement, which, of course, you already knew.
tysonthepooper 9 months ago
@63gc English soldiers weren't innocent!
And the UVF, LLF, Red Hand Commandos... killed more innocent than the IRA!
the IRA sinds 1922 are just resitants! They're just like the Fenians! they protect the land of the Irish, and of course there are casualties amongst civilians, some innoncent but not all. They're keeping a land STOLEN by their fucking monster-accenters! The Gaels in the Middle-Age were quite more civilised the the Black & Tans! Just watch The Wind that Shakes the Barley
Brengor69 2 months ago
if ye'de by christian ye'de know there isn't peace without justice!
Never steal a land from someone! What had been stolen from the Irish, and all the Celts must be given back to them! Agus mar sin tiocfaidh siocháin ar ais! :) Amen! the Irish christians have little in common with the pope, and without Henry the 4th there woudln't be protesant. He wasn't happy with the decision of the pope so he mad up a new religion, that fitted him-self. Instead of joining another christian religion
Brengor69 2 months ago
@Brengor69 I mean the Celts and gaels after all are NOT the original inhabitants of these lands, they were as much invaders as their cousin Germanics. They stole the land from the natives too. So really by your way of thinking justice was done when it was stole away from them too. Wiki 'Senchineoil' the original inbitants 'enslaved' by the Gaelic invaders of Galway who to create the Uí Maine.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 And it was Henry VIII not the 4th who broke with the pope. England had a long history of non conformity anyway, the Lollards for example. The Protestant reformation swept across Europe, and there were plenty of supporters in England. Two out of three of Henrys children and succesors were Protestants, one a calvinist, so the reformation would have happened anyway.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago
@Brengor69 Basically I think your part of the problem in ireland, someone not living in the real world. Your stuck in the past, much of it invented and semi mythical. Peace in Ireland is more important than a united Ireland, and the only path towardsthat anyway iss equal respect for all the peoples, religions and creeds that inhabit the land, however they got there, not daft talk about long dead 'Saxons' and Gaels'. If you want to be a 'Celt' invent a time machine.
jacksbacksucker 2 months ago 2
Paul: give back Heather's let yet stupid mean cunt!
BRUTUALTRUTH 1 year ago
@RichardElden And England was in a world war with France. Even today if you don't have an English sounding name you are considered not American. You are an in an ethnic group.
aellarex 1 year ago
@RichardElden Don't be stupid
jackwilshiresfakeid 1 year ago
@RichardElden what a stupid comment
ste43 1 year ago
@Protuner06 go watch "chomsky explains cold war in five minutes" then you can actually claim willful ignorance and reassert my almost certain knowledge that you're an imbecile. america doesnt need to take over, it occupies the territory makes everything free market by "liberating", buys the land with oil for a dime and leaves when its bellies full, if you think different then your government is doing well at keeping you in the status of absolute berk!!
cookitagain2 1 year ago
Good idea. Give Ireland and
Nrthn Ireland back to the Irish. But make sure to get a signed pledge from every Irish man and woman that they accept full responsibility from the date of transfer. Pay all their debts, pay 'em out of EU membership; make em truly free and independant, but responsible for themselves from that day on.
It'll be success or failure. Whichever it's down to them; no comeback on anyone else. It would help to tell the Pope, Paisley, IRA and Unionists to piss off as well.
corpbs1 1 year ago
@corpbs1 Does Ireland even want Ulster back, surely it's more trouble than it's worth for them. Fact of why there was no call from them or even Ulster Catholics between 1949-68 was with universal education, health care, the welfare state and unemployment at that point under a quarter of a million in the UK there was no way the South of Ireland could replicate that. People in the South were fighting to get over to England, so what hope could they have of upholding the North's living standards
jackwilshiresfakeid 1 year ago
@corpbs1 Best comment here.
Kobaganda 11 months ago
@corpbs1 Why should Ireland becoming unified be contingent on them leaving the EU? Who are you to make the rules? They can do what they choose.
bornwithoutwarning 11 months ago
.. do they need it back ...?
HomoSovietikus 1 year ago
"people saying Are You too political XxXxX .... SHUT UP !!!!! " =)
missenglishdu39 1 year ago
Juanmacready go and see a doctor because you are a sick motherfucker .
ABILL1959 1 year ago
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I wish Paul McCartney had died of lung cancer like George Harrison.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
how about that 1 england 2 member from ur greatest ever band singing about how evil you really are. yous are the real terrorists use butchered irish ppl for hundreds of years but when we fight back we become the terrorists.
cfcnlr 1 year ago
@cfcnlr And now you're just a bankrupt slave of the EU controlled by Germany. When will you repay that £7 billion loan from the UK?
JuanMacready 1 year ago
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Paul, I wish you had died of lung cancer like George Harrison.
So glad your wife Linda died of cancer!
JuanMacready 1 year ago
just like kennedy who came over here, jumped out of his car giving the i am in front of the reporters before running over to a soldier and started poking him shouting why dont you go home",well the solider simply replied with his irish accent " i am home sir why dont you go home"..which shows these people had no idea what there doing
keir100 1 year ago
@keir100 Yes, and Peter King is another American politician who does not know what he is talking about.
powereddrive 1 year ago