Man, I just saw this video and I'm so proud of my good friend Coco. I'm so tired of westernized society telling my culture that we are wrong for excepting our people for whoever they are. Just because they can't deal with the mahu,faka leti, fafafine.. or whoever. We are who we are. You go and fix or find your culture. Leave mine alone.
No disrespect to the people or culture of Tahiti, but this has nothing to do with sex, but instead lies in territory strictly gender-based. Coco Anthony is not a third sex; he is a male, who "behaves like a woman" by applying himself to a female gender role in Tahitian society. If a man dressed in clothes that satisfied gender norms in a certain society and behaved in a way deemed feminine, that wouldn't make him a third sex, but a transgendered person who acts in the gender of the opposite sex.
@Gille87 Regardless of how they see it, it is inaccurate. I could dress a man up like a dog, and following their logic, he would therefore be a dog, even though the contrary was clear and definite. They can certainly have their own ideas and culture, and what I say cannot stop anything...not that I'm trying to stop anything. I just can't accept these people claiming the existence of a third sex when they are merely dressing a man in female garments. It's a matter of gender, not sex.
@TheOmegaParadigm well why even bother? If u can't accept it, then that's ur problem;) Well it's how a person feel inside to, not only if they have a dick or a vagina, but I guess ur straight right, so u wouldn't know-_-
@Gille87 Sorry, but I'm not the one with the problem. Am I the disillusioned person that has to lie to themselves to convince them they are a sex they are not? No. I don't dress up in the garments of the other gender and then declare I am of that sex, or even more preposterously, that they are members of a fictional third sex. It doesn't matter how a person feels about their sexual or gender identity; it matters about what is, not what if. Those kinds of people are kidding themselves.
@Gille87 Because I like to argue. Because I like to prove I'm right. Because, hey, maybe I just like talking to other people about current issues, even if I completely disagree with their perspective, as I do with yours. Maybe that's a flaw in my character, but hey, at least I'm not some psychological-disturbed, culturally confused transvestite like these folks. :)
@Gille87 Wow, I'm terrified that someone might get fed up with what I'm saying, and rather than simply ignoring me or brushing me off as someone who doesn't know what he's talking about like a mature adult, they kill me. Are you suggesting that you may do such a thing? Should you ever figure out who I am, where I live, etc, and attempt it, beware: I take that kind of thing personally. And once I was done "talking it out" with you, I'd come after your family. I'd kill them all. One. By. One.
Par la suite, souvent rejeté par sa famille et sans grandes possibilités professionnelles lexpatriation et la prostitution ne sont pas un choix délibéré, mais la seule solution qui soffre à lui, la seule issue de secours pour qu'il puisse vivre, pourquoi donc porter un tel jugement de valeur ?
Sans porter de jugement, je pense que le raerae se ressent dabord femme, avant de se voir comme un être sexuel. La recherche de sa propre harmonie est donc primordiale, passant par le développement de sa féminité.
Certains intervenants dans ce reportage comparent les Mahu et les Raerae en employant des termes particulièrement choquants (les raerae seraient « sales », « dégradants » parce que leur attitude est liée au sexe et à la prostitution, alors que celle des Mahu serait liée à la préservation dune tradition).
@maururu20 J'ai visualisé votre reportage et je me permet de vous apporter quelques réactions car certains des propos des interviewés dans la comparaison des MAMU aux RAERAE me paraissent erronnés et stigmatisant,enfermant le RAERAE dans une attitude essentiellement sexuel et pejorant
Mahu (Tahiti), Raerare (Tahiti/Cook Islands), Fa'afafine (Samoa), Fakaleiti (Tonga), Takatapui (Maori) are a common sight in many Polynesian Societies and play many roles. Most are tolerated within their respective societies but not hated. This was a good clip and shed some light on "Mahu" in the Pacific.
(Please do not reply with horrible comments. Only intelligent ones please.)
@Paatuki Ia orana. I believe that Mahu should exist alongside with other genders to keep the balance so there is universal harmony. This are the words of the Bugis "Bisu" priest, Puangmatua of Sulawesi, Indonesia. I find Polynesians have a very similar culture to Sulawesi when it comes to the view of gender. In the Bugis soceity of Sulawesi, Human beings have 5 genders.
Check out the youtube video entitled "Five Genders? "
I am Tahitian myself...."third sex"???? what is that???? these guys only have mental problem,it is just a rebelious way toward the society...no men has to be that way,it is bs to think it is part of the culture.
They might have a mental prob, but you can't deny it is part of the culture. Mahu's are polynesian they have been around for a long time, and still are. Mahu's are raised as a girl from birth, it's not the same as a transvestite or raerae, it would be hard just to start acting like a boy after you have been raised that way.
@teriimataha hahahah ma'au no Rurutu mai e au.Ei matamua aita e raerae.Ta'u ohipa matamua ra e fa'aapu,ohipa ia te natura.However don't ever say i am not Tahitian....mybe you are a faggot .....i am a MMA fighter from rurutu living in the USA so don't be be an idiot.
Na reira ia ,te mana'o a muri mai eaha ei parau ma'au mai.ei ha'ama no te Fenua Ma'ohi
@teriiura hahaha, e mea, na mua a haere tu te fare hapira'a ma'au. mea tahito roa te vai ra te mau mahu i porinetia! ro reira ta oe manao poiri no te haere noa i te fa'apu... aue taou e
@teriimataha ia hi'o ana'e tatou i te mau puta no aotearoa e no hamoa ma ,no Iteraera mai o tatou.ei 5000 matahiti mai i teie nei.Ia haere mai teie mau ta'ata ua haere mai ratou in te mau fenua hamoa na mua ia tae mai ratou in Tahiti mai,ia pi'i hia mai a muri mai ei ma'ohi.Ia hina'aro mai ei ite ho'e a'amu ia papu anei a hi'o atu i te mau puta no rapae mai eiaha noa ho'e a'amu.ei ua parau au ato'a aita e mahu ei roto te hiro'a ma'ohi ,e au ia aita e ma'ohi e au? idiot me?you must be kidding me
@teriiura ua hape oe, tu as tort, les mahu ont toujours existé dans la culture maohi, c'est CULTUREL !!!! where did you heritate this HATE? why you disavow your culture your identity? no te fenua marite tera manao ta oe. Christians denie it, mais depuis que le monde est monde cela a existé et existera toujours. Te mau tupuna ma'ohi e faaite ia tatou te haehaaraa, te here, te hau. O oe, mai te fenua marite ta oe inoino. E ere maohi to oe manao, no marite mai.
@teriimataha ai ta e au e maramarama mait'ai to'oe mana'o...ha'apapu mai i to'e reo.Ia hina'aro mai 'oe e pi'i hia e ma'ohi a reo mai i to tatou reo.....eiaha e amui te reo ma'ohi ,farani e marite.
However my friend i want to tell you if you want to learn,you have to see all the different version of one history...we are originally from the southeast of asia.,and there were no queer with us.Polynesian are warriors.
Et ne me traite pas d'americain,.je connais mieux la nature que toi surement
It's not just the eldest boy. Mahu are chosen depending on the family. The girls in my family are useless cooks, cleaners and lazy- the men however are exceptional. This is a gift any woman would want in a son.
In regards to Raerae, they prostitute because it is an expensive lifestyle to become woman.
I don't see a man in a dress, I see works of art.
Vive le raerae-tu est le jolie. Dieu vous benisse mahu....
It is sexist because it seems that you judge females based only upon their ability at performing domestic functions. And saying that someone's race prevents them from commenting on something is a huge cop-out.
damn there are some pretty ladies!! i was having an impossibly hard time distinguishing male and/ from female according to my culturally learned gender constructs!! i would like to think that all societies can become 'multisexual'. an embrace these kinds of not just tolerance, but celebrations i enjoy this type of confusion!!!!
@collegeguy2009 straight and people in general will never respect and understand us, as long as they don't change their ignorant way of thinking, and much has to do with religion;) Trust me I know, I grew up in Norway in to a Christian family...There will always be people that doesn't see us as human, but as long as u know who u are, and respect ur self, then those ignorant fools can burn;)
magnifiques les divas de tahiti !!!yyyyaaaahhhoooouuuu !!!!
TheTiareapetahi 5 months ago
are they asian or half spanish
maxpayne718 1 year ago
this is some weird shit
chocorangel33t 1 year ago
Man, I just saw this video and I'm so proud of my good friend Coco. I'm so tired of westernized society telling my culture that we are wrong for excepting our people for whoever they are. Just because they can't deal with the mahu,faka leti, fafafine.. or whoever. We are who we are. You go and fix or find your culture. Leave mine alone.
islandguy73 1 year ago 2
Funny. I always thought a mahu was a type of Asian fish.
Yailyblog 1 year ago
No disrespect to the people or culture of Tahiti, but this has nothing to do with sex, but instead lies in territory strictly gender-based. Coco Anthony is not a third sex; he is a male, who "behaves like a woman" by applying himself to a female gender role in Tahitian society. If a man dressed in clothes that satisfied gender norms in a certain society and behaved in a way deemed feminine, that wouldn't make him a third sex, but a transgendered person who acts in the gender of the opposite sex.
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago
@TheOmegaParadigm well that's prior to how westerner sees it;)
Gille87 1 year ago
@Gille87 Regardless of how they see it, it is inaccurate. I could dress a man up like a dog, and following their logic, he would therefore be a dog, even though the contrary was clear and definite. They can certainly have their own ideas and culture, and what I say cannot stop anything...not that I'm trying to stop anything. I just can't accept these people claiming the existence of a third sex when they are merely dressing a man in female garments. It's a matter of gender, not sex.
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago
@TheOmegaParadigm well why even bother? If u can't accept it, then that's ur problem;) Well it's how a person feel inside to, not only if they have a dick or a vagina, but I guess ur straight right, so u wouldn't know-_-
Gille87 1 year ago
@Gille87 Sorry, but I'm not the one with the problem. Am I the disillusioned person that has to lie to themselves to convince them they are a sex they are not? No. I don't dress up in the garments of the other gender and then declare I am of that sex, or even more preposterously, that they are members of a fictional third sex. It doesn't matter how a person feels about their sexual or gender identity; it matters about what is, not what if. Those kinds of people are kidding themselves.
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago
@TheOmegaParadigm and? lol then if it's not ur problem why'd u even care? I dunno why u even reply at all;P
Gille87 1 year ago
@Gille87 Because I like to argue. Because I like to prove I'm right. Because, hey, maybe I just like talking to other people about current issues, even if I completely disagree with their perspective, as I do with yours. Maybe that's a flaw in my character, but hey, at least I'm not some psychological-disturbed, culturally confused transvestite like these folks. :)
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago
@TheOmegaParadigm lol back at u bitch! ;P Just keep it up, and some day when u least expect it, someone will kill ur ass!
Gille87 1 year ago
@Gille87 Wow, I'm terrified that someone might get fed up with what I'm saying, and rather than simply ignoring me or brushing me off as someone who doesn't know what he's talking about like a mature adult, they kill me. Are you suggesting that you may do such a thing? Should you ever figure out who I am, where I live, etc, and attempt it, beware: I take that kind of thing personally. And once I was done "talking it out" with you, I'd come after your family. I'd kill them all. One. By. One.
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago
get rid of the effing ad
shadowwatcher42d 1 year ago
Par la suite, souvent rejeté par sa famille et sans grandes possibilités professionnelles lexpatriation et la prostitution ne sont pas un choix délibéré, mais la seule solution qui soffre à lui, la seule issue de secours pour qu'il puisse vivre, pourquoi donc porter un tel jugement de valeur ?
MsMarquises 1 year ago
Sans porter de jugement, je pense que le raerae se ressent dabord femme, avant de se voir comme un être sexuel. La recherche de sa propre harmonie est donc primordiale, passant par le développement de sa féminité.
MsMarquises 1 year ago
Certains intervenants dans ce reportage comparent les Mahu et les Raerae en employant des termes particulièrement choquants (les raerae seraient « sales », « dégradants » parce que leur attitude est liée au sexe et à la prostitution, alors que celle des Mahu serait liée à la préservation dune tradition).
MsMarquises 1 year ago
oui
maururu20 1 year ago
@maururu20
maururu20 1 year ago
oui
maururu20 1 year ago
@maururu20 J'ai visualisé votre reportage et je me permet de vous apporter quelques réactions car certains des propos des interviewés dans la comparaison des MAMU aux RAERAE me paraissent erronnés et stigmatisant,enfermant le RAERAE dans une attitude essentiellement sexuel et pejorant
maururu20 1 year ago
Mahu (Tahiti), Raerare (Tahiti/Cook Islands), Fa'afafine (Samoa), Fakaleiti (Tonga), Takatapui (Maori) are a common sight in many Polynesian Societies and play many roles. Most are tolerated within their respective societies but not hated. This was a good clip and shed some light on "Mahu" in the Pacific.
(Please do not reply with horrible comments. Only intelligent ones please.)
Thanks.
Paatuki 1 year ago
@Paatuki Ia orana. I believe that Mahu should exist alongside with other genders to keep the balance so there is universal harmony. This are the words of the Bugis "Bisu" priest, Puangmatua of Sulawesi, Indonesia. I find Polynesians have a very similar culture to Sulawesi when it comes to the view of gender. In the Bugis soceity of Sulawesi, Human beings have 5 genders.
Check out the youtube video entitled "Five Genders? "
Mohi 1 year ago 2
@Mohi Thanks for your suggestion. I did watch that clip and found it intriguing and yes very similar to that of the Bugis of Sulawesi.
Paatuki 1 year ago
wow i love polynesian people.. hawaiians,tahitan,samoans,,GOTTA LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greenpalaka 1 year ago
I am Tahitian myself...."third sex"???? what is that???? these guys only have mental problem,it is just a rebelious way toward the society...no men has to be that way,it is bs to think it is part of the culture.
teriiura 2 years ago
They might have a mental prob, but you can't deny it is part of the culture. Mahu's are polynesian they have been around for a long time, and still are. Mahu's are raised as a girl from birth, it's not the same as a transvestite or raerae, it would be hard just to start acting like a boy after you have been raised that way.
JOMO19921993 2 years ago
Transgenderism isn't a mental problem, don't be rude.
eatcarpet 2 years ago 3
@teriiura you're not tahitian into your soul! you're popa'a... :(
teriimataha 1 year ago
@teriimataha hahahah ma'au no Rurutu mai e au.Ei matamua aita e raerae.Ta'u ohipa matamua ra e fa'aapu,ohipa ia te natura.However don't ever say i am not Tahitian....mybe you are a faggot .....i am a MMA fighter from rurutu living in the USA so don't be be an idiot.
Na reira ia ,te mana'o a muri mai eaha ei parau ma'au mai.ei ha'ama no te Fenua Ma'ohi
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura hahaha, e mea, na mua a haere tu te fare hapira'a ma'au. mea tahito roa te vai ra te mau mahu i porinetia! ro reira ta oe manao poiri no te haere noa i te fa'apu... aue taou e
teriimataha 1 year ago
@teriimataha ia hi'o ana'e tatou i te mau puta no aotearoa e no hamoa ma ,no Iteraera mai o tatou.ei 5000 matahiti mai i teie nei.Ia haere mai teie mau ta'ata ua haere mai ratou in te mau fenua hamoa na mua ia tae mai ratou in Tahiti mai,ia pi'i hia mai a muri mai ei ma'ohi.Ia hina'aro mai ei ite ho'e a'amu ia papu anei a hi'o atu i te mau puta no rapae mai eiaha noa ho'e a'amu.ei ua parau au ato'a aita e mahu ei roto te hiro'a ma'ohi ,e au ia aita e ma'ohi e au? idiot me?you must be kidding me
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura ua hape oe, tu as tort, les mahu ont toujours existé dans la culture maohi, c'est CULTUREL !!!! where did you heritate this HATE? why you disavow your culture your identity? no te fenua marite tera manao ta oe. Christians denie it, mais depuis que le monde est monde cela a existé et existera toujours. Te mau tupuna ma'ohi e faaite ia tatou te haehaaraa, te here, te hau. O oe, mai te fenua marite ta oe inoino. E ere maohi to oe manao, no marite mai.
teriimataha 1 year ago
@teriimataha ai ta e au e maramarama mait'ai to'oe mana'o...ha'apapu mai i to'e reo.Ia hina'aro mai 'oe e pi'i hia e ma'ohi a reo mai i to tatou reo.....eiaha e amui te reo ma'ohi ,farani e marite.
However my friend i want to tell you if you want to learn,you have to see all the different version of one history...we are originally from the southeast of asia.,and there were no queer with us.Polynesian are warriors.
Et ne me traite pas d'americain,.je connais mieux la nature que toi surement
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura please re-educate ur ignorant way of thinking!
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@Gille87 i did and i realized you are wrong
teriiura 1 year ago
thanks for sharing
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BrittPhillips 2 years ago
Interesting that there's no mention of lesbians or women becoming men.
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assasinator2k 2 years ago
The documentary didnt explain itself entirely.
It's not just the eldest boy. Mahu are chosen depending on the family. The girls in my family are useless cooks, cleaners and lazy- the men however are exceptional. This is a gift any woman would want in a son.
In regards to Raerae, they prostitute because it is an expensive lifestyle to become woman.
I don't see a man in a dress, I see works of art.
Vive le raerae-tu est le jolie. Dieu vous benisse mahu....
marikarere 2 years ago 3
You are quite the sexist pig.
antisubaru 2 years ago
Unless you are mahu or polynesian then you would know what I meant. How is it sexist? Choose your words wisely.
marikarere 2 years ago
It is sexist because it seems that you judge females based only upon their ability at performing domestic functions. And saying that someone's race prevents them from commenting on something is a huge cop-out.
antisubaru 2 years ago
damn there are some pretty ladies!! i was having an impossibly hard time distinguishing male and/ from female according to my culturally learned gender constructs!! i would like to think that all societies can become 'multisexual'. an embrace these kinds of not just tolerance, but celebrations i enjoy this type of confusion!!!!
mess4opana 2 years ago 4
LOL @ enjoying this type of confusion.
marikarere 2 years ago
a guy like coco anthony is right... gay males (eunuchs/mahus) DO have a place in society. We are not fictitious, make-believe, fairy-tale freaks.
He is asking straight people in the united states to respect and dignify them.
collegeguy2009 3 years ago 13
@collegeguy2009 yes you are freaks and you can expect no respect from me.
Leikonel 1 year ago
@Leikonel lol... hou, nigga, hou?
collegeguy2009 1 year ago
@Leikonel well we don't need ur respect;P
Gille87 1 year ago
@Leikonel and lol i think u got issues, why even bother to watch a video like this if u are so against us?
Gille87 1 year ago
@collegeguy2009 straight and people in general will never respect and understand us, as long as they don't change their ignorant way of thinking, and much has to do with religion;) Trust me I know, I grew up in Norway in to a Christian family...There will always be people that doesn't see us as human, but as long as u know who u are, and respect ur self, then those ignorant fools can burn;)
Gille87 1 year ago
@collegeguy2009 I wish everyone had a place in society. You would think that everyone would in this day and age.
sonogramgrl 2 months ago
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Rogulu 3 years ago
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smack my ass plz!!!
calimorenaza 3 years ago
The video infers that Tahiti wasn't civilized prior to the 18th century. That is silly.
txgrl7 3 years ago 17
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that is fuckin gas. after 9 or 10 pints you wouldn't give a fuck
a05bf5ff 4 years ago
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Holy shit, transexual surgery is fuggin' good these days! How much better does it have to get before i'm not weird for being turned on by them?
WizardJim 4 years ago