Turbonetics ball bearing turbo on 12v cummins

[pwerwagn73]

Lol tell that to the Carli, kore, big dog, hrt, thuren guys.

[josephnbl91]

FORD. Found Off-road Rescueing Dodges. lol a good one for ford fans, but i love them all. 12v is the way to go.

[NathansBackwoods]

I would not recommend sticking fingers in there, when my brother was in a diesel class they started a detriot 8v92, one kid said hey the turbo is not spinning, the dumbass could not tell the difference between a spinning wheel and a stopped one. so he stuck his finger in it, that was the end of his finger.....if i was the instructor i would have yelled at him and said you got finger in my engine.

[pwerwagn73]

Rosslh, you are correct, I was just Rearranging the equation to make the variable tq instead of hp since we were talking diesels and everyone was gettin all hot and heavy about tq.

[pwerwagn73]

93ctd, stop quoting dodgeram.orgs data. If you knew anything about the cummins you would know that 4100 rpm is exceeded ALL the time. The truck in the video even turns more than 4100, and still makes decent power there. Not ideal, but it does it. Stock rotating assy and all.

[pwerwagn73]

Fungusamogus, educate yourself before posting.

[pwerwagn73]

Calboy5858, the 5.9 cummins has been spun over 6k rpm in numerous trucks. Most, if not all of the unlimited class pullers spin them over 5k regularly. One even has sucsessfully hit ~7200 before it threw a rod.

[pwerwagn73]

@mxracer, you should read all the comments, you would realize I wasn't saying #2 is based off octane, I specified it was cetane.

[filmersflow1]

is it ez to get a rod knock in a 2006 Dodge ram 2500 cummins turbo

[dwnrety1]

what does the 12 v mean??

im thinking it means the number of valves right?

if so. hm. i always thought cummins' were V8's..

[sideburns2009]

@dwnrety1 It does mean 12 valves. There are 12 valve cummins inline 6's and 24 valve cummins inline 6's. They are pushrod inline 6 diesel's.

[sevenandonehalf]

do these ppl that make these videos realize that its not good for a diesel to start up for a min then shut it off??

[91cummins322hp]

you need the turbo off my D9N dozer

[MasterWitchDoctor]

Oke, anyone who's ever took a college stoichiometry class understands hydrocarbons, octane ratings in hydrocarbons, rate of burn in a controlled environment, and thermodynamics.

pwerwagn73 has it correct. High octane does not = high hp. The octane rating (motor octane in this case must match the compression ratio to get maximum efficiency. internal combustion engines are only thermal air compressors and at best only average about 50% efficiency. You have a 12 to comp engine you need 112

[MasterWitchDoctor]

octane fuel to reach maximum efficiency as far as rate of burn is concerned. Octane is based on 1 carbon per molecule equals 1 octane rating. A naturally aspirated diesel engine with a compression ratio of 18 to 1 runs best on around 120 octane diesel or number 2 diesel. Diesel fuel octane ratings are between 118 to 122 octane minus the 30 weight oil added to lubricate the injectors. Putting 113 octane Cam2 in an 8.5 to 1 pump gas engine would prove tp be a failure and just retarded.

[pwerwagn73]

Actually, torque=(hpx5252)/RPM. Get it right.

That turbo hits quite a bit higher than 25K RPM!!!

Higher octane does you no good if you dont set the motor up to support it. higher octane allows you to run more timing and or compression (or boost in certain cases) and the higher octane burns slower, thus reducing detonation. It does not make more power, it permits other mods/adjustments that make more power.

Diesels make big power, and turn in excess of 6000 rpm by the way....

[tucsondog]

And they sound nice too, can't forget about that :)

[RossLH]

I agree with all of that except the originally statement. Though you're algebraically correct, horsepower is by definition the derivative of torque, and is generally stated as such. For instance, when a car is put on a dyno, the dyno (most closely) measures torque and calculates horsepower from those numbers.

HP = (TQ*RPM)/5252

[azteamr0per]

@pwerwagn73 just FYI diesels go by Centane not Octane

[93CTD]

@pwerwagn73 Well you can be the first one to try to turn 6000! RPM! in that cummins, but rated for a BUILT cummins the rods and crank will fail at 5400 rpm, that is if you make it past 4100 rpm.

[calboy5858]

@pwerwagn73 are you sure you dont mean gas turn 6000 rpm theres no way a diesel would be a 6000 rpm and you lose torque at higher rpms

[mxracer150r]

@pwerwagn73 cetane**

[KenWorthboyw900l]

Wow who the hell thinks Diesel Burns Gasoline Diesel is Diesel and Burns the same thing if u think Diesel Burns Gas u gotta other thing comein. xD Diesel is a one Fuel that Helps Diesel is really Better then reg Gas it dosent do as bad as gas. cuz there r more cars on the road but Anyway Diesel dose not Burn Gasoline. Who ever thinks that is a Retard and needs to back to where ever he came from and go back to school.

[airhead426]

@FourSidedPiston

you ARE a dumbass, diesels don't burn gasoline they burn diesel fuel. diesel uses cetane rating where as gasoline uses octane. learn your shit before you sound like a dumbass arguing over octane ratings on a diesel video

and that turbine wheel is spinning up to 25,000 RPM with an engine at full load, that is ridiculous

[MasterWitchDoctor]

actually most turbochargers turn in excess of 100,000 rpm except on my 85 GPz 750 turbo Kawasaki) in which the turbocharger was turning over 600,000 rpm @ 13,000 rpm. I was putting 52 lbs of boost pressure at the intake valve and could detonate C16 VP fuel.

[airhead426]

heh wasnt paying enough attention in ag mechanics when my instructor was explaining everything then

oops

[454sskilla]

whats ball bearing mean like wats the diffrence between a ball bearing and a regular one?

[michaelovitch]

ball bearing is the the fact that you have a ball bearing at the place of a regular bearing:

 the standard is a bearing made in a low friction material in this bearing there is the axle of the turbo. in this case you have a oil film between the two to avoid seizure.

a turbo with a ball bearing don't need oil to lubricate the axle of the turbine and the bearing because it's a bearing with steel balls turning in a race it's not two flat parts in contact spooling one in an other.

[454sskilla]

are ball bearing turbos expensive?

[michaelovitch]

a standard is

a ball bearing is a lot...because they are for specific use not for mass production because more expensive to build with better parts and processes

[michaelovitch]

so ball bearings turbos have a better lag response( accelerate better) and need less energy to spool.

your engine oil suffer less because you eliminate a source of heat.

the bad thing is the turbo is not cooled by the oil and the bearing suffer of the heat

to avoid this few ones are made in ceramic not steel.

[marek0086]

of course ball bearing turbos need oil lubrication!. Many also have water-cooled cores.

They just dont need as much oil as plain bearing turbos.

[audigiovanni]

i like the end when the engine is shut down...it sounds like a gatling with no ammunitions

[Panzerketta]

i agree!

[HYPHYDUM408]

most reactive turbo i have seen, rpms of the fan increase almost as instantly as you step on the pedal..

[marek0086]

the term is "responsive".

And dont forget its a diesel.... the exhaust has more energy than a gasoline engine (a heap more at low revs anyway).

[HYPHYDUM408]

Thanks, Only 16 and learning!

[bluemk3supra]

not really a fan either haha its an impeller wheel or inducer

[bobby21j]

how much HP you pushin with this T58?  and byt he way your truck sounds mean.

[marek0086]

Remember that Diesels cant make much HP.... they make alot of Torque.

HP = Torque x RPM

And we all know Diesels cant rev high because diesel burns much slower than Gasoline. But it has more energy than Gasoline. Big torque = big accelaration.... but only in a narrow range of RPM for diesels.

[oilfield666]

cant make much hp? i guess 1200+hp isnt much these days

[marek0086]

u didnt get what i was saying.

[FourSidedPiston]

@marek0086

you explained it wrong.

[marek0086]

correct me. I doubt u will.

[FourSidedPiston]

@marek0086

You're not wrong, you didn't explain it right. Diesels CAN make good HP, but since they can't make use of very high octane fuel, they can't make AS MUCH as gas engines. New Diesel trucks come with 500+hp and plenty of torque. What were you trying to say, then?

[marek0086]

Octane?!..... Octane doesnt give u power!....u noob!

The Octane value of a fuel refers to its "KNOCK" resistance.

[FourSidedPiston]

Wow. Why are you so retarded? So you're saying that 115 Octane fuel would not give you more power than a 93 Octane fuel? I'm talking about overall, not about exact definitions. "Diesels cant make much HP...." Well, you're retarded then. Close this argument, I'm not willing to reply to a wall. And big torque isn't equal to big "accelaration" unless you can put it down.

[marek0086]

ye nice one!... u clearly dont know shit about fuels!

Shut your mouth poser, u dont know what you're talking about.

[premiertremere]

@FourSidedPiston depends on the fuel man...

e85 has an aki (anti-knock index, read here octane) of 94-96 and still contains 25% less joules of energy per part than even 87 octane gasoline... besides i thought we were talking about diesels...

@marek0086 you have a long way to go before you will even come close to an accurate answer. diesel refers more to the way fuel is ignited and less about the fuel. It is far more efficient of a system and is capable of gaining more hp than gas.

[FourSidedPiston]

@premiertremere

I was just trying to get this kid to understand. I couldn't get one thing that he said

[atlasdaddy]

That is the first time that I have seen someone knew what the hell they were talking about! "HP = Torque x RPM "  You would not believe the people who will fight you all day long about that shit. Saying that Torque has nothing to do with Horse Power! Thank you Thank you! Big thumbs up from me. Peace

[FearSyndr0me]

Am sorry, thats a generic formula and a complete waste of time, now tell me. Big rigs have more torque then HP, BAM, ur wrong right there!

[atlasdaddy]

They do have more torque then horse power, whats your point?

[hvguy]

you pay for HP but you build TQ...

if anybody has ever driven a little diesel truck or car, up and down hills you would understand the benefit of tq over hp

[DOOMKOOMA]

sounds like a fuckin ww2 plane

[indyboom]

Hey i heard if you put your fingers in there itll spool quicker..

[ntxic8td]

Surprized people havent been telling you to jam your finger in there like they do on my vid all the time...idiots.....lol

[Waddymsun]

damn, that has some quick spool, i guess they are worth the extra crash

[pwerwagn73]

5" exhaust all the way back, Turbo will bolt up on a 1st gen flange but downpipe will be custom, and uh, yeah...its a diesel....

[GabeytheNuthead]

is that a diesel :|:|:|?????

[OB4M4xD4xNIGG4]

No its gas......duh its a diesel fag

[whyzee125]

duh lol

[duckkiller3]

dumbass

[Cumminsturbo5spd]

Thats nice but I wouldnt run it on the road without a filter lol. Will a Turbonetics turbo bolt up to a 91 cummins?

[hashy3]

any t-3 turbo will t3 is the flange on the exaust manifold

[broncoandy]

what bore exhaust you runnin' there fella,... that thing sounds angry!

[quiggybear1]

cummins all the way rather be cummin' then strokin' any day!

[obscuredninja]

you hear that whistle nice