Bell of the Gustloff

[michaelwright999]

 WHERE IS IT ?

[jaksel]

Just a correction: "Kraft durch Freude" is the name of the organization that operated the ship "Wilhelm Gustloff".

[HomarLeonardo]

Los ingleses son los principales piratas, envidiosos y ladrones de la historia.

[vonWunstorf]

The number of killed refugees on the Gustloff was about 9000 not 6000.

50 % Cchildren.

[JThayor]

May 20, 1915

The RMS Lusitania was sunk by a German U-boat killing 1998 INNOCENT people including 100 children.

June 17, 1940

The Luftwaffe bomb and sink the RMS Lancastria

killing all but 2,500 of the 9,000 refugees onboard.

PAY BACK'S A BITCH!!!

[vonWunstorf]

But the USA knew, that u boots are sinking all ships trespassing the blocking of the ocean. The US supported England by sending military goods, etc by ships.

It was a tragedy but the sinking was a well known taking risk by the US. The passengers didnt even know about the danger

[JThayor]

Germany sank 400 of OUR ships without warning off OUR coast. Coast Guard, Fishing, even Passenger. So there's no question as to why we supported England and not Germany. Also, might I add that the Nazi Regime MURDERED millions of innocents. They MURDERED the mentally ill, jews, blacks and many others just because they weren't 'perfect'. So yeah... Don't try and say we supported the wrong people because we didn't.

[vonWunstorf]

Til in the 60s African-Americans were citizens 2nd class in the the south of the USA. They couldnt share restaurants, bus, restrooms with the white citizens. Who liberatedthem? The US Army?

Germany expanded to the east with war. (Wrong behavier of course, they massacred Russians, etc.)

USA expanded to the West, the massacred the American Indians....

Any country has a bad history, England enslaved with their colonies the half world. Nobody blames them nowadays. Why, the didnt lost the war.

[JThayor]

England civilized the world and many of those nations were better off under her control. The British brought jobs, trade and peace to them.

In America, blacks were second class citizens. No doubt about it but that's becasue a hundred years of freedom isn't long enough for all the troubles to go away.

[rembremerding]

"England civilized the world"

This is, what I learnt, when I read "Imperial Reckoning" by Caroline Elkins!

[germanytheotherstory]

@rembremerding England must be the country causing most wars in history, yeah call that civilized!

[rembremerding]

"The British brought jobs, trade and peace to them."

By the Zulu war?

[Schwabe2869]

England only "civilized" the world to make a profit and to benefit from their colonies. I just wonder why their American colonies revolted if they were so much better off under English rule???

[MartinSchleyer]

haha. very positive point of view

[zipacna1980]

England civilized world:))))LOL. Russian troops civilized Germany?:)

[germanytheotherstory]

@JThayor hitler wasnt suported by most germans either but he was a dictator. you have no idea how many germans hated hitler and yet those people got targeted the most!

[germanytheotherstory]

@JThayor why does there always have to be payback. the ones that should be hit dont get it, its always the inocent people who have to pay the price. either lusitaia or gustloff their bombing was equally wrong!

[BCraven04]

Who? The Mentally Ill? The Jews? Blacks?! Hitler WAS the devil and WILL burn in Hell.

There is no way to justify the massacre of millions.

[BCraven04]

Look, I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm just stating the truth. It was a Nazi ship and the people that were onboard were Nazi's too. It's sad that children died but the general perception is that a Nazi is a Nazi and the 'elimination' of several thousand (cilivian or not) was something to be praised. Personally, I can't say I feel an attachment to this ship because I must side with my country but I know it's wrecksite should be respected.

[germanytheotherstory]

@BCraven04 so because you said it its the truth? ridiculous, so if your state were nazi you would also be nazi. "to be praised" do you hear yourself? a massmurder be "praised'? your crazy man. shame on you!!!

[BCraven04]

They killed a bunch of Nazis, nobody cared at that time and nobody cares today. Personally, I'm sure a number of people were happy with the news that 9,000 Germans were killed.

[vonWunstorf]

You use the same style of discussion like some in the muslim world about 9-11....

[JThayor]

How so?

[rembremerding]

How can a baby or a child be a Nazi?

[edwina22]

I hear what your saying, its a bit like saying how can a baby be a jew, then murder it.

[germanytheotherstory]

@BCraven04 they killed HUMAN BEINGS not nazi's, you sure sound like a nazi yourself!

[ArturAxmann]

Another unpunished Soviet war crime