@brandiangela1988 unfortunately. Nostalgia Critic reviewed it. It's really awful. Focuses on Pips and the Beetle Boys for some reason, and they go to human-inhabited areas to rescue some forest animals but keep getting distracted by all the neat stuff we have. It's a pretty pointless and pathetic attempt to squeeze more money out of it.
- The eye makeup when inserted rectally seems to have some effect.
- I said "orally".
Yaiks! I don't know if i should laught or cry on this one... XD
Seriously,i don't feel like the lyrics author wrote those jokes in,it feels like Robin Williams is just babbling in some insanity...Seriously,it's a kid's movie! XD Still very good though.
@tearsoftheblackwolf the science of dermatology owes a lot to cosmetic research. Even on some of those organic cosmetics they still have to test for allergies. But the most important thing about all of this is if the vast majority of people begin to buy the non animal tested cosmetics eventually it will become the economical thing for cosmetic companies to switch to. That's how the free market system works, majority purchase will equal majority production.
@tearsoftheblackwolf That's your choice. People have been wearing makeup for thousands of years, that's not going to change anytime soon. And to some people makeup is necessary. People who have skin conditions that they want to conceal for instance, burn victims after receiving cosmetic surgery still have problem areas to cover up. The cosmetic industry is more than just makeup. There have also been great breakthrough's in health due to the cosmetic industry.
@tearsoftheblackwolf Also, there are cosmetics that aren't testing on animals, these are more organic based than the more chemical based cosmetics that use animal testing. Change the market and buy organic. However, keep in mind that somethings like those age defying creams and treatments have to go through the regular testing process to insure Human welfare. There are regulation for condition of lab animals to insure their welfare.
@tearsoftheblackwolf Most cosmetic companies now pay people for testing because it's actually cheaper. However, there are regulations that the cosmetic companies have to abide by, like not testing on humans before testing on animals. Next time you buy lipstick and it doesn't result in blistering or worse, thank testing both on humans and animals.
good song, let go of politics. It's a song that was designed around what people wanted t hear, not what was true. The rainforest is being "destroyed" by the people who live there who are cutting down to build farms, not the logging industry. If you make your living cutting down trees, you're going to replant because otherwise you'd go out of business very quickly. Animal testing is necessary to insure "humans" don't die or get sick. Or should we just stop trying to cure cancer to save animals.
@SupHapCak there are differences, but those same differences apply to drug testing. which is why they use more pigs, primates, and rats for testing. Why rodents? Shorter life cycles than pigs and primates. It's necessary and a regulatory requirement. Want it changed? Get the law changed so the cosmetic industry can go straight to human testing with pay to the test subjects. Of course then you'll have people complaining that they are taking advantage of the poor.
@Celebrian666 I can't change the law, but I wish some people would just open their eyes. If they did pay people to be test subjects, they would be volunteers. Then, no one would be able to accuse them of 'taking advantage of the poor' because 'the poor' agreed to it.
Does anybody else think this song would have made the grounds for a way more interesting movie than "Ferngully" (or at least "Ferngully 2")? I wanna know how Batty escaped the lab. Then again, I'm not sure a movie all about unethical animal experimentation would have been okay for a kid's movie...
vivisection is basically an autopsy or a disection of live animals so he couldnt have possibly been vivisectified.....im sry for imposing logic on a song sung by an insane person '
wow this song was gonna be put in a kids show??? damn this is definitely shit that is too mature for 5 and 6 year old. how would they understand what vivisectified means??? or like, cut the brain cap??? WHAT IS THIS
@JesterKatz nah man the most twisted is when they say "the eye makeup when inserted rectally seems to have some effect doctor." thats the most disturbing part
@spartanspyke Naa, not really that disturbing (though that defiantly is a Robin Williams line,) They just said what they did with the makeup (wrong cheeks!) But with the "I said orally" line, it could be anything.
I love what the songs represent-the torture against animals for experiments and Fern Gully represents the destruction of rainforests. That's why they have so many nature shots in the movie, to make people decide to go against the destruction of rainforests.
sadly enough, animal testing is to help us survive. If it wasn't for animal testing, we'd probably be dying out right now, and people we love would be too. Animal testing IS wrong but because of it, we're alive. I think we should pay respects to animals who gave their lives to help us. *hugs all animals*
Jill4ChrisRedfeild, I mean I guess I understand....but as you said, it's still wrong....but also because those animals giving their lives for us, are forced to do that. That's the thing...they don't get a choice or a say in the matter, They can't speak out language so they don't get say in whether they want to live or die. It's just sad, and every time I think about it, my heart aches for all those poor helpless animals.... ;(
Wow, this song is disturbing....and yet for some odd, demented reason, I like it, hahaha. XD BUT I absolutely DESPISE and hate the vary thought of lab animal testing with every essence in my being. It's creepy, cruel, wrong on so many different levels, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal now, isn't it? If not, it should be...
It isn't? :( Man, I really thought it was...that's so sad! A group of people should get together and work to get a law passed to prevent animal testing.... =(
I love the part where Zack (I think is his name) tells batty to take him back to leveler and he's like "that's lemon talk!" and he's like "wrong channel" "OH CEASAR!" hahahahaha I die laughing at that...
I love Batty! And the song is right! Animal testing should be a crime! Even though the song is funny I think that science should stop hurting poor animals for humans to have new products!!
thats not how it works in most cases, but yes there are still some places that do ludicrous stuff to lab animal. Also if it werent for said lab animals your mommy might very well not be around to take care of you. truth sucks
I live in the USA and I've never heard of a jacket potato. I'm pretty sure that's not an actual kind of potato/potato dish. I'm pretty sure they did that in the song because, remember, Batty is... well... batty. And crazy people say all kinds of weird stuff.
this song is soooooo gonna give me nightmares.... I can't stand the thought of animal testings and i can understand now why they didn't put the whole song in the movie, if i were still a child i wouldn't sleep for days!
vivisectified? holy shit...
FullMentalPanic 1 month ago
lmao, always love this one. <3
PrepareYourBladder 1 month ago
i have yet to find a movie robin williams plays in that sucked. nice job KratosWriter
butterfingers50912 2 months ago
"...OMG I'm reading by my genitals..."
cobblestone37 2 months ago
This is actually pretty extreme shit...
IPrayingMantisI 3 months ago
oh my goodness...
I...
These lyrics...
O3O
Animus69 3 months ago
this song is kinda scary, when ya think about it. :/
But I love it :D
Maddy922 4 months ago
lol
SubconciousANDComady 4 months ago
Robin Williams rapping. You've heard it. Now you can't unhear it. Welcome to the Batty Side.
springerjkreb 4 months ago
"Look doctor, they dance and jump around, just like Elvis!"
extremeXjapanophile 5 months ago
avatar aint got shit
thefuzz97 5 months ago
LOL! I love how it ends.
TheEsperanza243 5 months ago
" why dont you ever call me? " LMAO ahahaha omg <3 movie
Simsie89 6 months ago
In the horrible horrible sequel.... Batty's wires have magically vanished.
ramirezthesilvite 6 months ago
@ramirezthesilvite There was a sequel?
brandiangela1988 3 months ago
@brandiangela1988 unfortunately. Nostalgia Critic reviewed it. It's really awful. Focuses on Pips and the Beetle Boys for some reason, and they go to human-inhabited areas to rescue some forest animals but keep getting distracted by all the neat stuff we have. It's a pretty pointless and pathetic attempt to squeeze more money out of it.
ramirezthesilvite 3 months ago
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As you see, the animals don't really feel pain... THEY JUST GET USED TO IT!!!
IronKnuckleKO 7 months ago
@IronKnuckleKO why was this comment marked as spam? IronKnuckle just quoted from 2:00
Sesshoumaru191 3 months ago
@Sesshoumaru191 I don't know... It's a good question... XD
IronKnuckleKO 3 months ago
HI HELEN!!!!!!!!!!!
boysloveblueyedgirls 7 months ago
I have but one claw but beware!
XD
veggietalesfan65 8 months ago 4
What movie are the pictures of RObin Williams in the doctor clothes from?
HeyChickaBumBum100 8 months ago
@HeyChickaBumBum100 I have no clue. I got the images off Google. But he was a doctor in "Patch Adams" and "Awakenings".
KratosWriter 8 months ago
@HeyChickaBumBum100 Krato's right. The pictures are from Patch Adams and Awakenings. The one where he has a mustache and beard is from Awakenings.
TheEsperanza243 5 months ago
@HeyChickaBumBum100 that would be patch adams
dachende8 3 months ago
- The eye makeup when inserted rectally seems to have some effect.
- I said "orally".
Yaiks! I don't know if i should laught or cry on this one... XD
Seriously,i don't feel like the lyrics author wrote those jokes in,it feels like Robin Williams is just babbling in some insanity...Seriously,it's a kid's movie! XD Still very good though.
Magnolic 8 months ago 16
I'm a fruity bat? XD
I love batty! D: I was so sad when all the doctors were just like 'he's just an animal'
Shilasta 9 months ago
@Mandolinpossum I know, MarioFanLevels was mistaking it for erotic.
tta700 9 months ago
I said ORALLY! XD
barbaro267 9 months ago
this doesn't have lyrics like it says in the title...
StarSancFar 9 months ago
@StarSancFar yes it does. It's in the description box!
barbaro267 9 months ago
Look professer they dance up and down like elvis lol I love Ferngully when i was lil n now its awsome 2 me!
4evayaoifangirl 9 months ago
@MarioFanLevels I believe you are mistaken:
Definition of erratic: unsteady, random; prone to unexpected changes; not consistent.
tta700 10 months ago
@tta700 Batty is insane. He is, by definition, erratic.
Mandolinpossum 9 months ago
"Look professor they dance up and down just like elvis."
My gods,I loved ferngully when I was a kid,now I'm just...-astonished.I wonder if it was accessible at all then (this full version of the song) ...
Velvetspoonful 10 months ago 3
super funny, I love this song.
andoc 11 months ago 11
@andoc
are you serious??? do you understand this movie at all? how the fuck are the lyrics funny??? please try to actually think before you say anything.
motleygrrL1313 2 months ago
@motleygrrL1313 Sarcastic humor is clearly beyond you. Come back when you've grown up.
andoc 2 months ago 2
"Omg Im reading by my testicles!!!" XD LOL!!!
MaxtraBot 11 months ago
did he say something about a "rocket in his pocket?"
TheEmolester 11 months ago
@TheEmolester he said his logic is eratic too :D
MarioFanLevelz 11 months ago
"The eye makeup when inserted rectally seems to have some effect" -WTFFf?!?!?!?!
BonesDGAF021 1 year ago
when i was younger this song scared me and now i know why, the lyrics disturb me... ):
LuckyStar334 1 year ago
"Oh, Gravity works!"
KadenzaKat98 1 year ago 2
Croossnagetic
pppp2222ssss 1 year ago
@tearsoftheblackwolf the science of dermatology owes a lot to cosmetic research. Even on some of those organic cosmetics they still have to test for allergies. But the most important thing about all of this is if the vast majority of people begin to buy the non animal tested cosmetics eventually it will become the economical thing for cosmetic companies to switch to. That's how the free market system works, majority purchase will equal majority production.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
@tearsoftheblackwolf That's your choice. People have been wearing makeup for thousands of years, that's not going to change anytime soon. And to some people makeup is necessary. People who have skin conditions that they want to conceal for instance, burn victims after receiving cosmetic surgery still have problem areas to cover up. The cosmetic industry is more than just makeup. There have also been great breakthrough's in health due to the cosmetic industry.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
@tearsoftheblackwolf Also, there are cosmetics that aren't testing on animals, these are more organic based than the more chemical based cosmetics that use animal testing. Change the market and buy organic. However, keep in mind that somethings like those age defying creams and treatments have to go through the regular testing process to insure Human welfare. There are regulation for condition of lab animals to insure their welfare.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
@Celebrian666 I can't believe that other people didn't realize this: It won't have the same effect on humans that it does animals!
SupHapCak 1 year ago
@tearsoftheblackwolf Most cosmetic companies now pay people for testing because it's actually cheaper. However, there are regulations that the cosmetic companies have to abide by, like not testing on humans before testing on animals. Next time you buy lipstick and it doesn't result in blistering or worse, thank testing both on humans and animals.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
good song, let go of politics. It's a song that was designed around what people wanted t hear, not what was true. The rainforest is being "destroyed" by the people who live there who are cutting down to build farms, not the logging industry. If you make your living cutting down trees, you're going to replant because otherwise you'd go out of business very quickly. Animal testing is necessary to insure "humans" don't die or get sick. Or should we just stop trying to cure cancer to save animals.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
@Celebrian666 But, It won't have the same effect due to difference in organ arrangement, DNA codes, and body mass.
SupHapCak 1 year ago
@SupHapCak there are differences, but those same differences apply to drug testing. which is why they use more pigs, primates, and rats for testing. Why rodents? Shorter life cycles than pigs and primates. It's necessary and a regulatory requirement. Want it changed? Get the law changed so the cosmetic industry can go straight to human testing with pay to the test subjects. Of course then you'll have people complaining that they are taking advantage of the poor.
Celebrian666 1 year ago
@Celebrian666 I can't change the law, but I wish some people would just open their eyes. If they did pay people to be test subjects, they would be volunteers. Then, no one would be able to accuse them of 'taking advantage of the poor' because 'the poor' agreed to it.
SupHapCak 1 year ago
LOL HI HELEN!!!!
puppie406 1 year ago
"The eye make-up when inserted rectally seems to have some effect."
No wonder this song wasn't in the movie.
Vampirategirl 1 year ago 3
Where did you get this song? Is this and the uncut Hexxus song on any of the DVD releases?
MadForHatters 1 year ago
Does anybody else think this song would have made the grounds for a way more interesting movie than "Ferngully" (or at least "Ferngully 2")? I wanna know how Batty escaped the lab. Then again, I'm not sure a movie all about unethical animal experimentation would have been okay for a kid's movie...
SpiritSonic 1 year ago 4
"Omg I'm reading my genitals" XD
TheDJyoTe 1 year ago
This movie just came on this second!!!!! I'm so happy they haven't forgot this movie THIS SONG IS EPIC!!!!!!!
YingYangWolfCat 1 year ago
I have to say that was EPIC.
BOMBchik1994 1 year ago
damn I didn't know batty was f'd up like that
LadyOfDaGame 1 year ago
vivisection is basically an autopsy or a disection of live animals so he couldnt have possibly been vivisectified.....im sry for imposing logic on a song sung by an insane person '
i love batty hes my favorite^^
SSCONCORD 1 year ago
@SSCONCORD Vivisection is really just a vague term for animal expirmentation.
PinkPunkyKat 1 year ago
did they just say "eye makeup when inserted rectally has some effect" @ 1:14??
"they dance up and down just like Elvis" oh my dear god
SammySpam25 1 year ago
wow this song was gonna be put in a kids show??? damn this is definitely shit that is too mature for 5 and 6 year old. how would they understand what vivisectified means??? or like, cut the brain cap??? WHAT IS THIS
SammySpam25 1 year ago
"I said orally"
That line disturbs me...
JesterKatz 1 year ago 5
@JesterKatz nah man the most twisted is when they say "the eye makeup when inserted rectally seems to have some effect doctor." thats the most disturbing part
spartanspyke 1 year ago
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@spartanspyke Naa, not really that disturbing (though that defiantly is a Robin Williams line,) They just said what they did with the makeup (wrong cheeks!) But with the "I said orally" line, it could be anything.
JesterKatz 1 year ago
@spartanspyke Why on Earth would ANYONE stick EYE makeup up, well, you know.
Jademageify 1 year ago
@Jademageify not a bloody clue man.
spartanspyke 1 year ago
Rocket in my pocket and itch to scratch it!
Anybody here that part near the end?
FenrirSkollXxXLuna 1 year ago
OMG I USED TO LOVE THIS FILM WHEN I WAS YOUNG I CANT BELIVE I FOUND THIS THANKS
queensherageye 1 year ago
even tho this song is creepier than the one on the movie i like it A LOT!
wylecoyote65 1 year ago
This is a cute tribute to Batty. Pics of RW as Patch from the movie Patch Adams are the icing on the cake.
BeachballSU 1 year ago
Oh my god, Robin Williams.
SkippyDaemon 1 year ago
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I just finished watching this movie. So nostalgic!
Leveena 1 year ago
oh yeah. he's also patch adams
333GenericFeeling333 1 year ago
robin williams XD
cmcclure0712 1 year ago
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A good song for gay niggers to output semen onto an open wound during a gay nigger sex orgy when put at FULL BLAST!!!
kyleslasher75 1 year ago
"Doesn't seem like animals comprehend any pain"
THEY JUST GET USED TO IT!
XD Batty is the best. and THIS is a rap. not that
"I went an' got my ho, so she can suck mah bone." SHIT!
Batty is the best, I love his song/rap.
TheNachoKat 1 year ago
Sequal sucked. It didn't have Robin Williams playing Batty was one of the things that made it suck.
Ankh117 1 year ago 6
dis iz 1 a mi fav songs
coffeepixie64 1 year ago
I love what the songs represent-the torture against animals for experiments and Fern Gully represents the destruction of rainforests. That's why they have so many nature shots in the movie, to make people decide to go against the destruction of rainforests.
That's why I love this movie.
RisenAngel17 1 year ago 7
Never heard that version before. guess they cut it from the movie
SynateDeszeld 1 year ago
Its carcinogenic i.e causes cancer
joss533 1 year ago
@KratosWriter how can you not see they are missing? it isn't there. I'm sorry if i sound rude but look at the beginning.
aSpadeRawrs 1 year ago
batty is actualy my last name lol my theam song
maxman294 1 year ago
@KratosWriter
1.) All the things he says like speaking. ie. Rap like an animal but I'm a mammal All of our cosmetics are non-cosnogenic (something like that)
I been brain-fried, electrified, infected and injectified,
2.) you forgot the my batty rap at the end ie. If you just take a little off the sides My batty rap Who's Batty? Moi
I wasn't trying to be rude or anything I just wanted to let you know. Sorry if i sounded rude in any way. 0.^
aSpadeRawrs 1 year ago
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IronKnuckleKO 1 year ago
sadly enough, animal testing is to help us survive. If it wasn't for animal testing, we'd probably be dying out right now, and people we love would be too. Animal testing IS wrong but because of it, we're alive. I think we should pay respects to animals who gave their lives to help us. *hugs all animals*
Jill4ChrisRedfeild 1 year ago
Jill4ChrisRedfeild, I mean I guess I understand....but as you said, it's still wrong....but also because those animals giving their lives for us, are forced to do that. That's the thing...they don't get a choice or a say in the matter, They can't speak out language so they don't get say in whether they want to live or die. It's just sad, and every time I think about it, my heart aches for all those poor helpless animals.... ;(
FoRgEtMeNot77 1 year ago
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IronKnuckleKO 1 year ago
Oh look professor they dance just like Elvis! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup!
IronKnuckleKO 1 year ago
Some of the lyrics are eerie...
"Doesn't seem like animals comprehend any pain, they just get used to it!"really is creepy, in my opinion.
xxxxLarxenexxxx 1 year ago 5
AND-AND AND AND WALLMART
uberCharlie7552 1 year ago
companies that test on animals include Mars, clorox, Johnson & Johnson, Pantene, Olay, vicks, suave and many others
hiei66d 2 years ago
But it is illegal to test animals like cats and dogs, right? What animals do they use in the labs?
FoRgEtMeNot77 1 year ago 4
yes
one example Iams
hiei66d 1 year ago
Fish, bacterias, animal fetus' and rodents
IronKnuckleKO 1 year ago
another one is chimps or monkeys, because they're close to human but with a 2% difference of DNA
Jill4ChrisRedfeild 1 year ago
Wow, this song is disturbing....and yet for some odd, demented reason, I like it, hahaha. XD BUT I absolutely DESPISE and hate the vary thought of lab animal testing with every essence in my being. It's creepy, cruel, wrong on so many different levels, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal now, isn't it? If not, it should be...
FoRgEtMeNot77 2 years ago 4
@FoRgEtMeNot77 sadly it isn't
hiei66d 2 years ago
It isn't? :( Man, I really thought it was...that's so sad! A group of people should get together and work to get a law passed to prevent animal testing.... =(
FoRgEtMeNot77 2 years ago
@FoRgEtMeNot77 I remember watching this with my parents as a kid. II am convinced this is what started my life long obsession with animal welfare.
PinkPunkyKat 1 year ago
im sure we realize is bc we didnt understand at that age XD but yes.. it still is a awesome song
HeartBreakerForever 2 years ago
ummm that was a little creepy
musicgeni 2 years ago
I have to say honestly as a child I never even payed attention to the lyrics. Now years later it disturbing. And yet... I still enjoy it. Oo
ChrisRedfield267 2 years ago 3
I think this song is applicable to more then just Animal Testing
Leekduck 2 years ago
They should have every area where they do animal tests play this song haha i love this song.
Batty is da Bomb!
Keliiholokai89 2 years ago 24
That was my fav part when Batty says
"Human tails? Humans don't have tails! they have Big BIG bottums that they wear with bad shorts! They go walking around going "HI HELEN!" XD
ZeldatheCat16 2 years ago 109
I love the part where Zack (I think is his name) tells batty to take him back to leveler and he's like "that's lemon talk!" and he's like "wrong channel" "OH CEASAR!" hahahahaha I die laughing at that...
GummiBands 2 years ago 3
Thihihi xD i like listened to this song 643876 times to figure out the lyrics so i could do a singalong on youtube :D now i've done it! MUAHHAHAHH!
SheSister 2 years ago 4
lol i have only one claw but beware
dragonowner23 2 years ago 4
"Look professor they dance up and down just like elvis" that shouldn't be funny...
CupidsSlave 2 years ago 7
I love Batty! And the song is right! Animal testing should be a crime! Even though the song is funny I think that science should stop hurting poor animals for humans to have new products!!
wildspirit123 2 years ago 7
thats not how it works in most cases, but yes there are still some places that do ludicrous stuff to lab animal. Also if it werent for said lab animals your mommy might very well not be around to take care of you. truth sucks
moocowtoyou 2 years ago 2
Amen!
Boogawes 2 years ago
I hate animal testing... :(
Kikodanian 2 years ago 5
its so mean to test animals i dont like that doctor!!!!!!! he SUCKS!!!!!!!!
rocker111273343 2 years ago 2
lol potato in a jacket wat does that mean???
mysuckylife 2 years ago
It means absolutely nothing. That's the point.
Zachski 2 years ago 3
It means he is crazy.
HaruxMichi 2 years ago 4
Jacket Potato, it's a food O.o; where do you live?
Jill4ChrisRedfeild 1 year ago
I live in the USA and I've never heard of a jacket potato. I'm pretty sure that's not an actual kind of potato/potato dish. I'm pretty sure they did that in the song because, remember, Batty is... well... batty. And crazy people say all kinds of weird stuff.
KratosWriter 1 year ago
Oh! Wait! It IS a food! Its a baked potato served with the jacket on. As in the skin.
KratosWriter 1 year ago
@Jill4ChrisRedfeild the U.S. and I'm 13 so I've never even eaten a Jacket Potato before O_O"
Only pealed ones lol ^_^
mysuckylife 1 year ago
that was scary
Trinitybloodlust 2 years ago
Kinda dark. "It's not true that animals don't feel pain, THEY JUST GET USED TO IT!!!!!"
oORabiDemonzOo 2 years ago 76
LOL. The eye make-up when inserted rectally. That's funny... and a little scary.
KyrieLeisonM 2 years ago 2
this song is soooooo gonna give me nightmares.... I can't stand the thought of animal testings and i can understand now why they didn't put the whole song in the movie, if i were still a child i wouldn't sleep for days!
keniakittykat 2 years ago 5
LOL. awsome, ty ty ty
anthony20cali 2 years ago
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best rapper alive
ncmotown1325 2 years ago 3
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omg this song is addicting!!!!!
forebiddenchild 2 years ago 5
HA! I love this song!
FelineWraithKuro 2 years ago
omg haha i love this song but wft-----> OMG I'm reading by my genitals
coolcat132435 2 years ago
I think he says bleeding by my genitals...
LadyAislinn312 2 years ago 2
WTF?
Gidg7568 2 years ago
LOL!
anthony20cali 2 years ago
Oh god, I want the song to my mp3 T3T
kankurokoneko 2 years ago 2
hahahaha so bad
twilightawakening 2 years ago