Preparing for a plague - Food Production

[justhear2]

What was the cause of the black death? /plague? I was caused by infected rodents And fleas which inturn bit humans which inturn spead the plague via air or touch it had nothing to do with food production or the lack there of. It was due to the unsanitary conditions. And a growth of a rat and flea population. Although this person brings out a good point about prepairing for possable food supply shortages. U could have all the food u need and still be infected With a plague by a infected flea

[johnwords]

Also what about reproduction? eventually the seed would be expensed. what advice could you provide for harvesting more seed?

[johnwords]

i have a question: How long would a seed supply last when stored? wouldnt the seed go bad eventually? im considering beginning to just grow my groceries myself locally anyways. =D

[ariana29x]

what annoying state is that accent from. aaaiiiind

[TheGeohart]

also, read Danial Defoe, wrote an account, in 1604, in London,

[solobackpacking]

Be sure to avoid Monsanto seeds.

They have engineered to grow only on their fertilizers.

Talking about England, it's strange how the most dangerous pestilence comes from either England (mad cow, flesh eating bacteria) or Africa.

I predict there will be a major out break from England in the next 50 years that will wipe out a significant portion of the world population. The Haitian outbreak was also traced back to England.

[VoidOnTuesday]

Here's a good bumper sticker for you:

Gay survivalists do it in the garden!

[masm60]

Nothing grows where I live for 9 months out of a year and if things got that bad I wouldn't be able to grow enough food in my yard to feed my family for a year. Then how would I stop the neighbors from stealing what I managed to grow? Besides, If I had to rely on radishes to stay alive there's no point in living anyway.

[mrmonkeyman50]

You are forgetting about water. The supply must be dependable and noncontaminated. If you really are worried about a plague, you will find that your water supply will quickly show signs of contamination (especially if something takes place on the scale you imagine). The world is a very connected place. Survivalists think they can make it on their own, but they are connected to everything else. No where in North America is can be considered truly isolated.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@mrmonkeyman50 And, of course, I meant water for irrigating your crop. You don't want to contaminate the crop with dirty water, but you will have no choice of there is truly a "plague" like you imagine, the pathogens will be everywhere in the ecosphere.

[mrmonkeyman50]

It's funny how people invent issues like the plague to worry about, when the real danger they don't worry about: we are killing the planet with pollution and industry. The same people who are "experts" about the plague are often the ones denying that global warming is taking place as a result of too many people on the planet. People should spend their energies helping the real problems we face.

[cedarpd]

very good. just one thing,my plan for that impendeing disaster is to kill you and eat your food .and could you get a younger wife cause i get horny after i eat.and pick up some beer too

[Jeffmtbr]

Been watching your vids, they are very good. I enjoy them.

What is your plan when everyone in North America that is faced with a harsh winter starts coming your way? After an event that you're preparing for everyone from Canada down that's faced with freezing temps will be coming your way. I don't think 2-3 years of seeds are your problem.

[georgeky1]

Grow all open pollinated seed. That way you can keep saving seed from now on. Plastic bags can sweat causing seeds to rot or mold. Freezing will not hurt them. I store most of mine in glass jars in a dry building. Paper bags are OK but mice can get in them easy so put them in something mouseproof. Bugs get into lots of seed too. Freezing prevents that as well. I am a farmer and will survive anything that comes along. I have chickens, hogs, a few cows and lots of garden food on hand now.

[Voodochild2007]

You are fucking crazy. Stop watching Fox and Glen Beck. White people are so fucking stupid.

[MyJogger]

Muppet

[Anthonyfromtheuk]

Do u get heirloom seeds? if not you may not have good luck with the seeds you get from your grown food. They should at least be organic.

[SuperMommy227]

I may live in the suburbs, but I definately have a decent seed stock pile. I am starting a trend in my neighborhood of taking over the front lawn of useless grass and growing edibles with flowers as beneficial companions. People should also stock plenty of marigold, nasturitium, and aromatic herbs to ward off pests in the garden too. All those are edible also.. you should note proper seed storage techniques such as the using powdered milk in the sealed container to prolong the life of the seeds.

[Kashmir2000is]

I have a question. I have never stored seeds before. I have always bought them, then planted. I have heard a couple different ways to store them now. From dehydrating them for a bit, then putting them in the freezer, to put them in a paper bag (never plastic) and store in a cool dark, dry place. Kinda different opinions there. Anyone care to help me out? Thanks! :) Jo

[AnnieNM06]

Why cant plastic ziploc type bags be used to store seeds? I hope it doesn't kill them because I just put a bunch of my seeds in some. Thanks.

[Kashmir2000is]

I am not certain Annie. I am a novice here. I have always planted what I purchased, never stored them before. I am hearing many different things. I have many heirloom seeds that I got from a reputable company and they sent the seeds in mini ziplock bags. Very confusing. Put them in the freezer, put them in your closet, put them in a ziplock, put them in a jar, etc ha ha ")

[tylertyler82]

What if the water supply is infected?

[m1chae11956]

Infected with what? Grey water is not an issue, black water however is. Chemicals can be filtered out as can most pathogens, then the water can be treated in many ways including the relatively new SODIS method. If you have a particular issue in mind, perhaps I or someone else can offer a work around.

[tylertyler82]

I am thinking if the water is contaminated with some sort of biological waste, nuclear material, etc.

[acv2s]

You should be storing water also...

8-)

[Autotee2]

I have a feeling we've just seen the beginning of H1N1.

[THREEFLOORSDOWN1]

i tryed goin heirloom this yr & it failed misserably for me. the seeds @ famers store are on sale right now for like 20 cents a pack. i'm goin tonight & gettin a grocery sack full...might do a video on it & post a response. thx for the reminder kev

[rosrychaplet]

how did it go? did your seeds produce?

[stfuBUDDY]

WELL, sir... to tell you the truth the only seeds my dad has, are marijuana seeds, BTW he has a medical MJ card so it is legal , thank you prop 215.

[NDNfeatherNOTdot]

CA's gun laws suck, but at least they coming around to the growing of hemp. It has a load of uses.

[Positrack1]

I love your videos, but the picture above the fish tank is crooked and the apple-hook on the right is lower than the one on the left. It's riling up my OCD... ;)

[overlordsshadow]

Thanks for the vid kev. Any good online places to get bags of seeds and such?

[Cadesrsvids]

good thinking

[RIHeron76]

Just do as Gandhi, and collect your own salt from the sea.

[gksk8monk]

Hey SurvivalistBoards, do you like to hunt or shoot guns for recreation? Can you make videos about that? Thanks, cool vids.

[DieBlutgrafin]

I think anyone who has the land for this should do it.

So many toxic chemicals are used in the production and storage of food. So much is wasted in transport, and in storage.

The major food producers (ie. Monsanto) are hugely unethical, they produce unhealthy (often genetically modified) crops. They often contribute to groundwater pollution, and soil erosion.

I think growing your own is a *very* good idea, no matter who you are.

Good video. Though... I'd definitely encourage organic farming.

[MissPickletoes]

How long will stored seed retain its viability?

[ggmorvaj]

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with your video's subject, but I really like the "apple hooks" on the wall behind you.They are really cute.(Excellent subject matter, too, never actually thought of that aspect of a major epidemic......hunger)Food for thought.

[Eli3333333]

Excellent point Kev. You need to do a video series on how to harvest seeds from various plants. I know you had one on squash or something one time but what else can you do? Like carrots, where are the seeds on a carrot and how do you collect them?

[hunt1803]

Carrot seeds develop when the carrot has completely matured and becomes inedible. Carrots are technically biennial, growing the root/plant one year, and developing the seeds the second year. So if you want seeds you need to protect part of your row through the winter and then let the flower umbrell develop the next spring. When the leaves start to die, gently put a paper bag over the flower heads, snip the stem from the plant and turn it over to shake the seeds into the bag. Very small seed.

[axishans]

useful as always, look up hydroponics and solar power for lighting--all indoors and off grid propositions. Thanks!

[ohhyeahzulu]

i love that big tub of seeds. my collection is no where near that. but one day it will be bigger than kev's current collection

[weplover]

lol all i have is 1 tomateo plant so not very long

[crazy650c]

Uh.....how are you going to stop the police or the neighbors or the government from confiscating and destroying an UNAPPROVED garden? You going to shoot hungrychildren stealing your radishes? Google Earth can see your garden and therefore so can your local authoities and do-gooder socialists take your stuff. Better to have hidden stockpiles and know wild edible plants. Sorry, but seeds only work if everyone respects property rights and I just don't see that happening. IMO....Hope I am wrong.

[hunt1803]

Hey crazy650c - I helped my neighbors to prepare and plant gardens of their own. So they won't come sneaking around to steal my corn and melons, cause they'll have their own. Get to know your neighbors. Talk to them about what is going down. You might be surprised to find they are like-minded, or easy to convert. Safety in numbers! There are so many reasons to stock up and prepare for disaster. And I don't think you're worried they'll think you're crazy, considering your YT username, LOL.

[snowmaiden8fldpth]

There is also hydroponic gardening which you can learn to set up in a basement or shelter.

[sweetypie000]

great video, will definately be collecting mustard seed so i have something to spread on the rich when i eat them

london at the time had a population of just 350,000 and 30,000 minimum died big chunk

i'd go to a 7-11

[TrailerPark42]

Isnt there a type of seed you should buy to keep producing year after year. I think I read this some where that its not a hybird type seed.

[breakneck12]

Kev, When you said you had enough seed to feed for 2-3 years, did you mean just from those seeds alone?

I was thinking couldn't you just get new seed every year and go on indefinitely?

[PSNTheMoleMan]

yea im in the city and own no land... go figure...

[q1qeu]

well... I planted one potato and it gave me about 40 new potatos. thats enough for a month. so the trick is to plant a dozen or two :-)

self-reliance will be a big topic in future.

thx for all your vids Kevin

[themilkmister]

Haha, i live on a farm so i will be ok for a while, yeah like people are saying it is best to plant the plants indoor because it can take months to get seedlings outside.

[thehilitereel]

I'd starve if something like that happened, but that's going to change next month hopefully.

Good thing I'm overweight, I wouldn't starve initially.

[UEGJayvi]

lol im from the UK and during the black plague i never heard any stories through my history education of any cannibilism, so i find that hard to believe

[Nishiki83]

well, i'm from the U.S. and we don't learn a lot of true American history either...

[UEGJayvi]

true american history? are you saying we're taught lies? lol i dont think so

[Nishiki83]

i hope that was sarcasm. :) because yes, i am saying we are taught lies - blatant lies that promote the state's agenda. that's what public school is for, to make us obedient "upright" citizens, faithful to the flag and not much else.

[KLipneR]

wooooww. also public school is to educate you so that you are prepared for life and society.

[BirdOfParadise777]

Ok! Everybody laugh:D

I did NOT know!!! :O I only ever cooked them. It never occurred to me to try to plant them! And plant the popcorn??? You're kidding me. Right? :D

I gotta ask. So, you would grow more popcorn right? Couldn't eat it like sweet corn?

So, do you freeze all of your seeds? If so in what?

Thanks:)

BOP

[hunt1803]

BOP:

Popcorn, once mature, can be ground into cornmeal or fed to chickens, or popped and eaten by people...

I have to say that I've never tried to eat it 'green' as corn on the cob.

But I do know that dent corn (grown for cornmeal, livestock feed, ethanol production), can be eaten green. As children we used to take the young ears off my grandpa's field corn and eat them raw - they were sweet and tasty!

Also - save and replant those seeds out of best quality watermelon, cantaloupe, etc.

[BirdOfParadise777]

I need to find a "grinder" then!

The watermelon and cantaloupe from the store? How many times can you grow from them and replant them? I thought I read somewhere that you would get a different fruit because it's been "messed with?" It would not be as good of a watermelon or cantaloupe right?

Thanks for helping me:)

BOP

[hunt1803]

Try buying your produce from local Farmer's Markets. Ask the sellers if they use heirloom seeds (sometimes called 'open-pollinated' seeds). If they have used heirloom seeds, what you grow from the seed inside their produce will be the same as the parent. (Barring an occasional accidental cross-breeding).

Once you are growing your own, always save seed from produce/plants that have characteristics that you want in next year plants.

[hunt1803]

Google search for Rodale Institute and seed saving.  find one of their great books on seed saving and get it for reference.

Your best bet is to stay away from any hybridized produce, buy only open-pollenated or heirloom varieties. That way you have no trouble with offspring from seed you save from them. Only buy 'dead-end' hybrid seeds in packets if you don't want to save seed, and have the ability to store lots of them.

[BirdOfParadise777]

Thank you:)

BOP

[MissPickletoes]

Raw corn (sweet variety) is GREAT raw!

[AaronAlso]

Kevin,

Are all those heirloom seeds, or otherwise non-GMO?

[survivalistboards]

AaronAlso - Except for the corn, their supposed to be heirloom - non-hybrid seeds.

I buy my seeds from a local feed and fertilizer country store. When I buy my seeds, I tell them what I want and they give me certain seeds to match my needs.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@survivalistboards Most corn stock is already polluted with cross-hybridization. It's doubtful you can even get heirloom seeds in the United States. These are the real things to be concerned about. I suggest you watch the movie "The World According to Monsanto"... It will be eye opening and make you rethink what it means to farm.

[BirdOfParadise777]

Since you are talking about crucial planting- would you still thin and toss or one at a time. Start indoors? Most of the ones that said on the packet to put in two or three, all came up, so, I had pulled out a lot and wasted them. I just can't see doing that, if it is crucial to grow as much as possible!?

I'm just learning about this and planted for the first time this year.

All survival info is practical, if the stock is being stored correctly and rotated, nothing is wasted.

Thanks:)

BOP

[Buckhead1959]

I hope you have some heirloom seeds.

[mortisnoctu1]

True that!

[GrahamAndFriends]

good idea having seeds.

[TMHonfire]

A+ video

[hunt1803]

I had a lot of trouble this year with store bought pea and bean seeds. For snap peas and bush beans 0% germination-the seeds rotted. A large packet of pole beans ($2.99!) netted me only 4 sprouted beans, which since developed into 3 polebean plants. I save leftover seed every year, and had some 1998 Bean and Pea seeds- I got about 90% germination from the peas, and 75% from the beans. So there was something wrong with the seed being sold this year. MAKE SURE TO TEST SPROUT WHAT YOU ARE SAVING!

[MissPickletoes]

Is this with heirloom seeds??

[hunt1803]

@MissPickletoes-

if you were asking about the trouble I had with trying to germinate seed packed for 2009, one of the packets of peas was an unamed variety of sugar snap. Didn't say F1 Hybrid OR Heirloom. The beans that didn't germinate were Oregon Blue Lake - one packet of bush type 0%, and one packet of pole type about 10%. The 11 year old seeds that did germinate were Contender beans and Sugar Snap peas. I think there was some kind of contamination in the 2009 seed packets.

[hunt1803]

On seeds such as radish, beans, alfalfa, you can use a sprouting jar, not only to test the seeds, but to create a tasty ingredient for your meals. Buy yourself a sprouting jar, or three! Or you can buy mesh lids that fit standard and wide mouth canning jars which you can then use for sprouting. If you buy those big bags of beans in the store, you can sprout them, eat some sprouts and plant the rest. The fresh sprouts are great in salads, or for stir frying.

[BirdOfParadise777]

Would you please send me a message and explain more about "sprouting jars" (I haven't heard of them or seen them) and "mesh lids", also "big bags of beans in the store" do you mean fresh green beans or what?

Thank you:)

BOP

[hunt1803]

to BOP - I PMd you a link to sprouting jars and lids.

Big bags of beans refer to those bags of dried beans from the grocery - pintos, navy beans, lentils, etc. They can be sprouted and used as seed. This year I also grew popcorn from a bag meant for popping (not microwave kind, though)

[thehilitereel]

PM me a link too?

TY

[hunt1803]

If you have old seed, test sprout them before planting. Rinse a few seeds in water, then place them in between a couple layers of dampened newspaper or paper toweling. Keep it damp in a warm place.

Read the seed packets, or do an online search, for germination time, and check the seeds accordingly. Keep in mind that some seed may require special conditions in order to germinate.

[csreeves]

A couple thoughts on this vid...

1. Perhaps a little background on the "year 2" propagation of F1 hybrid seeds vs. that of heirloom seeds (considering you might need to provide more than one crop...where would seeds come from then?)

2. You've left out arguably the most important seed you could sow..Hemp. (Medicine, Fibers (for rope and clothing), and the most complete source of plant protein known to mankind (in Hemp seeds)...plus, it's a weed so it grows in in virtually ANY climate!

[csreeves]

(cont.)

3. Look to almost any asian country for methods of composting Humanure (or get the PDF of that same-named book online) to see how you can turn what we now call "waste" into a valuable/vital resource using thermophilic composting to fertilize your garden. (sure, it may seem gross...but no less gross than eating your loved ones (or wasting valuable water to flush it "away" as if there is such a thing as "away")

[101myname]

awesome vid. i havent bin able to stock up on much of anything. times are rough in my home. we do have a small garden tho. i wish jobs were made more available in my area. keep up the good work.

[veritasfiles]

Considering that I'm just starting out in raising my own food, not long. That's why while I try to slowly get some experience gardening, I'm stocking up on a lot of long-term food storage items just incase.

[JMBSM61]

Thanks a lot Kevin.

[profesas]

Cool Video

[cdltpx]

Get an old fashioned telephone and call up some fish. By then you will not have to worry about the game warden?

Also get a lazer sight on the old riffle you can pick off some deer with that thing and if the plague is on the game warden will not be there to stop you from using a lazer sighted weapon or from using that spotlight to insure sucess. And last we have the high quality rich protien worm.

[JammerJawz]

SAILBOATS! Sailboats can be one of the most versitile survival shelters. My sailboat has a solar system for electricity and you can fish and dive for food. It is built to withstand heavy weather and is totally self sufficient. And when everyone is running around under marshall law, I will be sailing to a nice quiet island.

[OneWithGuns93]

that is the most interesting bug out strategy i have ever heard of,

make sure all your preps are on board before you go

[biglou250]

Another great vid, Kevin! I was wondering though, is there any particular reason you didn't mention tomatoes and corn? I realize corn takes awhile to reach maturity or perhaps these don't grow as well in your area.

[survivalistboards]

biglou250 - If you go to the first link in the video description, there is a rather large write up there about different types of seeds and where I recommend corn and tomatoes.

I have about 3 pounds of corn seed in my stocks, I just did not mention it in the video.

[biglou250]

Oh, okay. Thanks for the response and making these great videos!

[manicbuyer]

Great vid! Like the poster above said, " save your seeds" that's the beauty of heirloom seeds- it keeps giving and giving. I liked the idea about radishes and the timeline. I also think people should consider seeds for their bugout bag. You might not get to stay where you are and you could find yourself surrounded by untasty campers :)

[RIHeron76]

Don't forget to save your seeds from you crop. Otherwise you'll be just as plooked as if you never had any to start with. It may just take a bit longer. Seeds will also be good bartering items.

[RIHeron76]

I have two weeks worth of rice, and a whole neighborhood full of delectable people. (Actually, they are not that delectable.... they've all been on the cool aid for too long.)

[theunknownknows]

You'll get less heartburn by eating their pets instead !

[MissPickletoes]

Some people raise guinea pigs for a food source.. might go good with that rice...lol

[TheChocolateBanana]

I appreciate it, Kevin. Keep making these vids, my buddies and I watch em' all!

[jjlinert]

Good info. Do you have any information about stocking up on non hybrid seeds? Or the best place to get heirloom seeds?  Even if there is no plague, etc, gardening is a fun and relaxing hobby.

[RIHeron76]

It is good to get your garden started now, before the SHTF, otherwise you too may be eating your loved ones, while your waiting for those squash to mature. You can also live off of the plenty of sticks and twigs if you stop to learn what is edible, and where it grows. Make sure you have heirloom seeds, otherwise you'll be a slave to Monsanto in the NWO. GMO seeds won't grow without new special RIFD technology.

[hunt1803]

seedsaversDOTorg

bountifulgardensDOTorg

and find a book from Rodale Institute on how to save seed.

[m6996j]

Your kids are lucky. They just don't know it yet. peace mik

[prescottbill]

I would add beets, turnips and potatos to the list. Potatos have served man well over the years in preventing starvation.

[ArashiNage]

At 4.29 "I have enough commercial grad fertilizer out in the shed...to make a bomb... opps, take 2, I mean to feed my family for two or three years."

J/K great video, thanks!

[TheChocolateBanana]

Sorry for our troubles earlier. I enjoyed the video. Some great info in here

[survivalistboards]

TheChocolateBanana - life is too short to be mad about anything. Peace to you and your family.

[cynan48]

Ok so we're in a disaster situation. You have your seeds, food coming in for your family, but what is your plan to defend your food from others? What do you do if those that didn't plan as well decide some radish and your family stew would be rather tasty?

[Buckhead1959]

CYAN..I'd invite them for supper. If they steal from me ...I shoot them!

[RIHeron76]

That's why you need to be good buddies with your local militia. Now's the time to make some new friends. It may be too late if you wait for disaster.

[josh91w]

Great video!

[eightwillwontcannot]

i must admit, i quite like the idea of a massive disaster scenario

[mpett2]

Dont know where you are at but you cant grow this stuff in the winter unless you have a green house. What did you have in mind for the winter?

[nbenicewicz]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to stock up on non hybrid seeds also?

[Karmerman1993]

You said Plague wrong. It is not Black Plaque, it is Black PlaGue. I had to learn the hard way.

[StarrJaded]

Excellent post! TY =)

[PowerForGood]

I really like you videos, thank you. One question: how long do seeds typically store? I have actually planted some after aquiring them two years before and they did germinate just fine. I also planted peas that did not germinate the first year and then all of a sudden they are poping up all over the second year in the garden and I did not even plant peas this year. Interesting... I usually start my plants indoors because I live just south of the canadian border.

[masonnf1]

forever. in the right conditions, most seed can be dormant as long as they dont decompose. there is even corn being grown now that is a particualr kind made from corn seed found in egyption tombs which is supposed to be the best kind of corn or at least one of the best.

[StarrJaded]

Must purchase heirloom seeds

pls google monsanto

watch the future of food!

Links are in the side bar to my channel =)

Ty for your efforts:)

[RIHeron76]

the future of food is good. You get the same information on The World According to Monsanto which you can find on google video. The latter of which isn't as well produced, and has a conspiratorial feel to it... but the information can all still be validated.

[principles101]

Just wondering if you have a well to water those seeds? Public water may not be how you'll want to water those seeds. This government is putting all kind of crap into the water supply.

[sweetypie000]

i don't get the point of this 5 minute video because you gave us the solution within 2 minutes - EAT THE RICH !

[logos2600]

The only plants I noticed that had decent calories were melons and beans - I don't think you could survive off vegetables that are mostly water or plant fiber whether or not they have vitamins and minerals. What fruits and vegetables do you recommend for the backbone of a survivalist diet to provide calories and protein?

[survivalistboards]

logos2600 - I am stocking up on all kinds of seeds, not just certain ones. With a focus on greens, such as turnips, rutabaga and radish. These have a root ball and leafy green tops. Yellow squash and zucchini, cucumbers, at least 4 different types of melons, 3 different types of corn, spinach, broccoli, onions,,,, only to name a few.

The seeds of turnips, rutabaga and radish are tiny. Several hundred seeds can fit into a 1 ounce shot glass.

[survivalistboards]

logos2600 - the first link in the video description goes to the thread in the forum where this video series is being discussed. We can go into more depth in the forum then we can here on youtube.

[logos2600]

Okay great

[RIHeron76]

Keep in mind that the standard american diet (SAD) is one of the un-healthiest in the world. If you have a well varied diet of plants you'll be well off. Americans eat far too many calories, and are suckered into all of these myths about protein, calcium, and other nutritional deficiencies. Pick up a copy of the China Study. As for protein, if you have your beans and potatoes you'll be fine.

[logos2600]

I agree about the SAD, but for an active guy trying to maintain (gain) weight like me, or for someone in a survival situation, you're going to want all the calories you can get. Even the fruits and vegetables that have the most calories don't have that much, and have a lot of fiber that makes you full and prevents you from eating more.

[vonhismean]

glad to see your making vids again

[WeaponsEnthusiast]

Golly 3 years, a whole family? You got a great thing going there, man! 5/5

[survivalistboards]

WeaponsEnthusiast - I would say between 2 - 3 years. Lets say that it I have enough seeds for 3 years. But if 30% of the seeds that are planted fail to sprout. Then I loose 1 year off the total.

Every spring I will make several trips to the feed and fertilizer country stores in the area and buy all kinds of seeds. Right now I have about 1/2 of the amount of seeds that I really want. My goal is around 5 years worth of seeds, and that would include a 33% failure rate.

[survivalistboards]

izzyizod - yes, you can eat the leaves raw and add them to a salad. Or you can boil them and eat them like any other boiled green.

[haha48]

Well if you harvest the seeds from the plants.. you can have a unlimited amount of plants over and over agian.. So if you know how to make seeds you ok..

[kumquatsta]

very interesting, thanks for the vid

[Boomman33]

i have the same question as tankmdg. how long do the seeds last before they go bad?

[bonzaibb12]

I save seeds from regular store bought produce I make sure its not GMO , GMO numbers on the sticker start with an 8. I have so many expenses and preparation is top priority but saving seeds I get anyway is a way to cut costs. Even if only 10% work they were something I would have thrown away anyway. Also I get more diversity and have seeds not normally sold in the store or in most seed saving kits.

[rebaluver12]

your videos are so good you guys should totally try skeet, or trap shooting sometime it is so much fun.

[medicjimr]

I am no expert but I believe seeds have a shelf life of only a few years then will not produce. so I think you will need to replace your seeds every couple years. Just a thought. good video

[evcrawfish]

actually if kept dry...

they found wheat seeds in egypt from like 2000 years ago, and were able to grow them....

[jokertim777]

Stored at room temperature seeds will retain vitality (depending on variety) for 1-3 years. If stored in a refrigerator, you can triple that. If frozen, even longer. Just don't freeze seeds until they are dried out or damage will result.

I think everyone needs an "Oh crud" gardening plan, just in case they need to raise their own food. Besides, having a garden will attract animals so you can also have meat on your table if you know how to trap.

[survivalistboards]

medicjimr - if you have a garden, which everyone should, you can rotate some of your seeds by planting your older seeds first. Rotate your seeds just like you rotate your canned goods. Use the old stuff first.

Be sure to visit the survivalistboards forum.

[medicjimr]

Like I said no expert Just now from experience I got seeds given to me one time that were at least 5 years old and did not grow was not knocking the video or anyone intelligence.

[SocomElite187]

Holly fuck you could harvest enough for like a solid 2 years

[WeaponsEnthusiast]

3 years! Watch the whole video!

[Frequencitee]

-Socom

Language on this forum.

He has respectfully requested that we watch our language because his children are actively involved in reading the comments.

I don't have a problem with profanity, but I keep it clean here.

And you're right. There is enough seed stock to grow plants perpetually by harvesting seeds, as well.

[SocomElite187]

Oh great.. someone called the profanity police

[Frequencitee]

No friend. Not me. Not at all.

I just wanted to let you know in the most respectful way possible what the scoop is. You didn't know so... no harm no foul.

SurvivalistBoards has some very good vidz to keep us thinking. Stay cool brother.

[tankmdg]

do seed loose its ability to grow after a certain amount of time ?

[survivalistboards]

tankmdg - that seed box is kept in the deep freezer. If you keep the seeds frozen at around 0 degrees fahrenheit, some seeds will stay good for hundreds of years.

Do a search for doomsday seed vault.

[GoatHollow]

If that seed is heirloom or open pollinated... And you know how to save seeds... You can keep growing for years and years!