LIVE CHAT: UFC FIGHT NIGHT 25/ MAYWEATHER VS ORTIZ [BetMMA.ca]

[zaggers77]

Like the beat.

[tmxman23]

nice.. i like that new beat

[TheRussian1]

Also is there a chance you will be going prediction vids for smaller events? Bellator and the like? Would love to see your opinion on those cards, plus, people need to know Zuffa ain't the ONLY thing around.

[TheRussian1]

"protect yourself at all times" or not, that was a dirty move. He could have waited for Ortiz to put his hands up. A little something called being an honorable individual. No, Ortiz headbutting him earlier makes no difference. Just more proof of the kind of trashy individual Floyd is. Not that I didn't suspect so already, given his offensive and racist rant against Pacman.

[KidTw1st]

it wasnt illegal but it was dirty. i hope manny finaly fights him now to put him in his place. i agree ortiz was fighting dirty but he did it while they were FIGHTING you can say "he cant stand around and wait for him to start fighting" thats fine if it wasnt 2 seconds after he apologized. saying anything else is just ignorance and biased based on your favorite fighters or who you bet on. both fighters fought dirty, atleast ortiz was fighting dirty when they were both FIGHTING not apologizing

[doliveij]

@KidTw1st

He apologized 5 times. Tried hugging 2x.

Apologizing isn't in boxing.

Punching is though.

So is the refs instructions: "Protect Yourself At All Times."

If they were touching gloves at the beginning of the fight/ round, woulda been different. But not after a dirty head butt.

[KidTw1st]

@doliveij i strongly disagree, floyd was winning anyway it was completely un needed - "protect yourself at all times" is a great qoute but wouldnt it also apply to when touching gloves? so thats hypocritical to say. my opinion means no more then yours but i disagree that it wasnt dirty and i respect floyd less because of it.

[1titans]

@KidTw1st

So what was Floyd supposed to do. Wait for Ortiz to get into his right mind? Seriously, whats wrong with you folks, there was no break, the ref back up to let them fight and ortiz wanted to hug and kiss, Mayweather had his hands ready to fight, what exactly was Mayweather supposed to do?

[KidTw1st]

@1titans ugh you stupid inbred.. i said it was DIRTY i didnt say it was illegal and i didnt say he wasnt allowed to do it, i said it was DIRTY which it was. when someone punches a guy while touching gloves he gets hate from everyone. same damn concept. theres no break to touch gloves either, fighters dont punch the other fighter because it shows SPORTSMANSHIP, he shoulda have waited for ortiz to square up again, and please dont respond i dont have time to explain to you what ive already posted.

[1titans]

@KidTw1st

They were not touching gloves, the fight was on. It wasnt dirty, that what im saying. You dont wait for someone to square up in a prof boxong match. I think you may be the imbred if you dont know that

[KidTw1st]

@1titans nice reading and comprehension skills. if your sister wasnt also your mom you might have the brain power to read my words in the correct order but since thats not the case i excuse you for being a fucking retard.

[DroppinKnowledge69]

@doliveij true or false? isn't the ref suppose to bring the fighters to neutral ground to deduct a point especially on a blatant headbutt. mayweather clearly looked to be the better fighter. but that was SLOPPY reffing and it should have never happened like that. but it def wasn't dirty. it was the refs fault.

[JWCFIGHTFAN]

@KidTw1st OR you could look at it this way. Ortiz was using an illegal Technique and Mayweather used a legal technique. Most people, on youtube, are biased against Mayweather.  Honestly watch this fight and then watch Pacquaio's last fight. What does Pacquaio have that could beat Mayweather? He's fast and he's tenacious but does he has no footwork and he's an arm puncher and really has no defense. Naaim Richardson already solved how to beat him but Mosley had no heart.

[KidTw1st]

@JWCFIGHTFAN tbh bro i just like making bs arguments and seeing if i can win, i dont even follow boxing i just watched the end of the fight lmao.

[HBKCommish]

@KidTw1st I still don't like Mayweather, but he did nothing wrong. I would of actually been quite okay with Floyd spitting on Ortiz after knocking his ass out. I DO think Mayweather gets WAY more heat than he deserves (that's not to say he doesn't bring on some of it himself) but it's racist sob's like Larry Merchant, that make Mayweather out to be a villain.

[BUDDAz1g]

@KidTw1st dude the ref told them to "go" and ortiz still tried to hug him some more its his fault i personally dont like mayweather but ortiz fucked up

[mbauer08]

Only way Mayweather gets a ko these days is when his opponent is apologizing.

[4iamu]

Karsten, did you watch the Mayweather vs Ortiz fight? Two words--DIRTY FIGHTERS!! Both were doing some foul stuff man. Several times I caught Ortiz throwing illegal elbows. And, that intentional head-butt....that was out of pure frustration, much like the Tyson's ear biting stunt against Holyfield. Bottom line, Floyd took advantage of Ortiz's naivety and inexperience, retaliated in kind, and got the KO, but all within the boundaries of the rules. Don't like the guy,but he did what he had to do.

[doliveij]

@4iamu

41 fights. And Mayweather has never been a dirty fighter. And he wasn't in his 42nd either. How long was Mayweather supposed to wait around for Ortiz to start fighting again?

[4iamu]

@doliveij Yes, Floyd has never fought dirty, I agree. Ortiz got caught and penalized for his foolishness, and felt ashamed about it.He should have stopped apologizing after the first or second time. Fighters are not suppose to be hugging and coddling their opponents during a fight.... you are there to beat down your opponent. Nothing Floyd did was illegal, but it was certainly unsavory and unsportsman-like. Floyd saw an easy opportunity to end the fight, and not continue to risk extra injury.

[DroppinKnowledge69]

@doliveij i know you have a ton of respect for mayweather. and why wouldn't you as a boxing fan? he's an all time great. and no it wasn't a dirty punch. but i wanna know what you think of the reffing. its textbook to bring them to neutral ground for deductions. the only reason why it's controversial is because the ref was sloppy. i want to know your thoughts...

[HoneyIEducatedTheWeb]

@doliveij

Incorrect, Karsten.

Watch the Mayweather v Gatti fight.

Also, Mayweather went down against Judah but pretended he hadn't. It's almost like these refs are willing to turn a blind eye, right?

And what of his fight against Hatton? Whenever Hatton came in, Floyd turned his head and ducked so he could be hit on the back of the head. If the ref (Cortez again - SURPRISE) hadn't broken the fight every time Hatton got inside, could Floyd have done that dirty tactic?

Come on, bro...

[doliveij]

@HoneyIEducatedTheWeb

That isn't DIRTY. lol

Dirty = Point taken off. Those are tactics.

Just like in MMA, when fighters turn their head so the fighters can't hit the back of their head. Or keep a hand on the ground to avoid knees.

C'mon son.

[HoneyIEducatedTheWeb]

@doliveij

"Apologizing isn't in boxing.

Punching is though."

Riddick Bowe fought someone, whom kicked him. Why did he kick Bowe? Because Bowe hit him after the bell.

Your point is flawed. Boxing rules dictate that the ref MUST say, "box". Joe said, "let's go".

Ortiz was not looking at the ref because he was stupid. This was not Palhares V Marquardt.

Ortiz was not hurt.

Floyd feigned accepting the apology, and hit him with two cheap shots.

If you do not think that is dirty, then god bless

[HoneyIEducatedTheWeb]

@doliveij

Here is a video that perfectly sums it up.

Type in, "Floyd Mayweather Jr. Knocks Out Victor Ortiz in Bizarre Fight! "

From UncutSports.

[iHIM911]

no DREAM 17 video, bruh?

[doliveij]

@iHIM911

If so, Sunday or Monday.

[iHIM911]

@doliveij can't wait!!

[GutturalReef]

Are we bringin' back the Ultimate Fighter chatroom....?!

[doliveij]

Yessir. And it's bigger and better!!!

Props to DexterShawn!!!!