To COC320, stop with your hating and provide SCRIPTURE to prove your statements or just keep silent. I thank God for Apostle Mathis preaching the truth.
So Now we see that if YOU do not understand Hebrew, Greek, Apologetics etc... (Which it seems you may not), These understanding are NEEDED by a pastor, teacher, etc... if We are to teach with as little as possible.
You had said SCHOOL don't make a preacher.
Which is TRUE, God MAKES A PREACHER.but we command to STUDY....
BTW 1 of the reasons we today must take that command to Study serious. We do not live in the time, culture, etc... of 2000 yrs plus. It is imperative STUDY & PRAY.
In the Hebrew text this phrase is "karat beriyt". The word karat literally means "to cut". When a covenant is made a fattened animal is cut into pieces and laid out on the ground. Each party of the covenant then passes through the pieces signifying that if one of the parties fails to meet the agreement then the other has the right to do to the other what they did to the animal (see Genesis 15:10 and Jeremiah 34:18-20).
Two other Hebrew words related to beriyt and also derived from the parent root bar can help understand the meaning of beriyt. The word beriy means fat and barut means meat. Notice the common theme with bar, beriy and barut, they all have to do with the slaughtering of livestock. The word beriyt is literally the animal that is slaughtered for the covenant ceremony. The phrase "make a covenant" is found thirteen times in the Hebrew Bible
BTW [Maurer] is a scholar from where derived the statement below concerning VISION.
Anyways, The Hebrew word beriyt means "covenant" the cultural background of the word is helpful in understanding its full meaning. Beriyt comes from the parent root word bar meaning grain. Grains were fed to livestock to fatten them up to prepare them for the slaughter.
I am saying this, you are trying to interpret this passage a wrong understanding, naming our modern understanding. As with ALL scripture we must read and understand as the Hebrews of 2000 plus years did, OF COURSE WITH MUCH PRAYER.
You mistranslation the word for vision.
in verse 11, "the whole vision." "Vision" is the same here as "revelation," or "law"; in Isa 28:15, the same Hebrew word is translated, "covenant" [Maurer].
But observe, "The vision has become thus to you whose minds the god of this world has blinded; but it is not so in itself, it is not so to all; the same vision which to you is a savour of death unto death to others is and shall be a savour of life unto life." Knowledge is easy to him that understands.
IT MEANS THIS (ONCE PROPERLY STUDIED FROM THE HEBREW & IN CONTEXT.
we may take it thus:-The book of prophecy was given to them sealed, so that they could not read it, as a just judgment upon them; because it had often been delivered to them unsealed, and they would not take pains to learn the language of it, and then made excuse for their not reading it because they were not learned.
Is this description telling us what the ark looked like? Not at all, it is describing its function by telling us that this ark is very large and capable of transporting a very large load of animals.
When keeping these three keys in mind while reading the text you will begin to approach the Bible from a Hebrew perspective rather than from the Greek perspective we have all been taught since birth.
Also the Scriptures says in Isa 29:11-12, And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. So we see that weather learned or not, Jesus is the only one who can open the Book and Im not talking about a natural book.
Hebrew thought is more concerned with function whereas we, and our Greco-Roman thought, are more concerned with appearance. When we read the Biblical text we are constantly creating a mental image of what the text is describing but the original author is not describing an image of appearance but an image of function.
and this is how you are to make it, the length of the vessel is three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
The Hebrew word for anger is אף aph [639] but literally means "a flaring of the nostrils in anger," a substance of action. In fact, the word אף aph [639] is also the same Hebrew word for the nose. Throughout this book you will be challenged to cease thinking abstractly and instead open your mind to the concrete meaning of words as they were understood from an Hebraic perspective.
Our modern languages are the product of a Greco-Roman world where abstract words are prolific. An abstract is a word or thought that cannot be related to one of the five senses; hearing, sight, touch, smell and taste. However, each Hebrew word is related to a concrete idea, a substance of action. A good illustration of the differences is the word anger which, from a modern perspective, is an abstract idea
Inside the goat hair tent of the Hebrews the roof is black but the gaps between some of the fibers of the material allow for pinholes of light to penetrate through giving the appearance of stars in the black sky. For this reason, the Hebrews saw the night sky as God's tent stretched out over the world, his family
From our own culture we could conclude that this is a reference to the creation of the stars which we know to be giant balls of burning gas billions of miles from us. But, this perspective, as accurate as it may be, must be ignored and instead understood from Isaiah's perspective of the heavens.
The Hebrew language, as is the case with every language, is closely tied to the culture the speakers and writers belong to. When reading the Bible, whether in Hebrew, English or any other language, it is essential that it be read through the eyes and mind of the Hebrew culture and not one's own culture. To illustrate this lets look at Isaiah 40:22.
It is he... that stretches out the heavens as a curtain
Understanding how the Ancient Hebrew thought is crucial in proper Biblical understanding. If we are to interpret the Biblical text according to our way of thinking then the interpretation will be contaminated with modern Greco-Roman thinking. In my many years of research into the language of the Bible I have discovered three keys to proper interpretation of the words and ideas within the text.
It is simply assumed by most people that everyone everywhere thinks in pretty much the same manner. This could not be farther from the truth. In fact, the thinking processes of different cultures are as different as day is from night. In this book we will be examining Hebrew words and ideas so that we can better understand how the mind of the Hebrew works.
All modern day translations of the Bible are written from a very westernized perspective and have erased the original Hebraic, Eastern, perspective of the original words in the text. Once the Hebraicness of the text is restored, a common theme can be found throughout the Bible rising to the surface - our nomadic migration through the wilderness of life.
A language is closely tied to the culture of those who speak the language. In the case of the Hebrews who were a nomadic people of the Near East, their language is closely connected to their nomadic culture. Each Hebrew word describes an action that can be seen in the nomadic journeys of the Hebrews through the wilderness.
I will be most happy to, but since the post are limited to 500 letters it is difficult. I will it a try.
first of all We must understand the the original Hebrew and Greek & its understanding (FULL UNDERSTANDING) ie. its languish, culture, context and logic.
By Logic I mean the Hebrew mans mindset which was a concrete understanding (the Hebrews did not think as we do today. They understood things that were known by their 5 senses. I will give examoles of what I mean.
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it, Isa 55:10-11. So you see the Word of God don't come from no language of man, but from heaven. Ye do err, Thanks
Yes it does, God used the Hebrew language to convey HIS WORDS and HIMSELF to man.
Although the KJV CONVEYS a surface meaning of Gods WORD. It we would receive a full and richer understanding if we study the WORD from the original languishes. REMEMBER "Study to show your self approved".
English convey the Hebrew or Greek fully, that is because Hebrew or Greek can't be translated one word for one word. A Hebrew Word often conveys a whole thought. NOT JUST A MEANING OF ! or 2 WORDS.
and also you said he removed your comments, what are you talking about I was always able to view your comments, please address this statement, and you said you didn't misquoted any scriptures and you did, please address these two statements of mine?????????????
I have copy pasted all the scriptures I've given . You falsly accused me of misquoting . You defend the man that calls him self an apostle. Apostles have seen Jesus. Do you really believe that he has seen Jesus. Why do you post things and then take them down? perfect means complete. Is the bible not complete?
you are not understanding me, you use the term Bible well the word bible is not found in the scriptures, and I know that God word is, was and shall always be Perfect, but 1 Co 13:10 say's when that which is perfect is come, and all God people are waiting on that perfect day of the Lord which is to come and everything else shall be done away, what are you waiting on?
so the perfect day is the great and terrible day of the Lord, great for the sheeps and terrible for the goats, and in that day there will be no more need of prophecy, tongues, knowledge, for God himself shall be with us, so shall we ever be with the Lord, so until that perfect day we need prophecies, knowledge and tongues, and apostles and prophets
1 Titus 3:10, 11 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condenmed of himself. For this cause you have been rejected, and our discussion is ended.
Praise God Apostle Mathis. This conversation reminds me of when Satan came to Jesus in the wilderness and challenged him, if he be the Son of God, to turn the stone into bread. Likewise, "studyjesus" (aka Satan) challenged you to prove you were an Apostle. You stood as Jesus, showing him you had nothing to prove to him.
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
(KJV) Some apostle, won't give an answer. You are a foll who blindly follows
you are missing the point, you didn't just ask him a question you told him your answer, of what you thought of him when you called him a sorcerer without him even getting a chance to make a statement, so from that point why would he answer you, just to prove a point? and you are trying to avoid any thing you may have said that wasn't right, also Jesus didn't answer the Chief Priest and the Scribes, because of the deceit in their hearts (Luke 20:1-8)
So you are the heritc? LOL yep. There are no prophets or apostles today. 1Co 13:8 ¶ Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
there are no scriptures to justify a perfect bible for the word of God has and will always be perfect, but the scriptures do tell us of a perfect day Pro 4:18
Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
(KJV) 1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
If that be so, then that would erase prophets, teachers, miracles, gifts of healings, helps, governments and diversities of tongues.
1Cor. 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order. to remove the apostles would not be decent and you would have no order. Therefore without an apostle you have no church for God set the apostles first. Dont add or take away
I have enjoyed viewing this discussion. It seems that Apostle Mathis is determined to stay within the scriptures. Where you, on the other hand, have misquoted a lot of scriptures with a bad interpretation, and misspelled several words. You tried to call him a sorcerer and said "soccerer" you tried to call him a fraud and said "faud." Your screen name is called study?
Misquoted the scriptures? I've copy / pasted them directly out of the KJV. You are dishonest and a liar. Misspelled words? Is that the best you can do? LOL .
brother study jesus to be honest your not looking to good! I have to agree with bianca1shante you have misquoted alot of scriptures and you keep spelling words incorrectly. my question to you is brother study is how does GOD reveal his holy word in this day and time?
I'm copy/pasting the verses right out of the bible program so you are lying about misquoting verses. " how does GOD reveal his holy word in this day and time? " Have you ever heard of the bible? Duh.
Like if he would have said Ive seen the Lord you would have believed him, and please the next time you write, if you would please if you have the guts, don't attack but defend the statement I declare that you made that wasn't correct, you seem always to write back trying to attack, but never defend the things that are directed to you, so if you would please answer my questions??????????
Perhaps one of the most tragic ironies of history - the African American embrace of Christianity, a type of mass Stockholm Syndrome:
"You may purchase slaves from the foreigners among you. You may purchase their children treating them as property, passing them on to your children as inheritance. " Leviticus 25:44-46
The scriptures say in 1Cor. 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. For you said, Paul said he was the last to see Jesus and apostles have seen Jesus so if Paul was last and every apostle have seen the Lord Jesus, then are you saying there are no more apostles?
Mt 10:1 ¶ And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Mr 6:7 ¶ And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; Lu 9:1 ¶ Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
You also insinuated that I could strike you with blindness, as Paul struck the Sorcerers with blindness to prove that I was an apostle, well the scriptures doesnt say that, Acts 13:11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. So it was the hand of the Lord, not the hand of Paul.
Apostles had the power given to them. Where is your power Mt 10:1 ¶ And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
You misquoted 1Cor. 15:8 the last to see Jesus is your quote, here is the scripture quoted in its entirety, 1Cor. 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. Paul never said, he was the last to see Jesus, as you quoted, but he did say last of all and the all whom Paul was pertaining to are those whom he mentioned, see 1Cor 15:3-7.
I quoted the KJV . 1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
(KJV) You have taken down my post showing you are a liar and hiding thetruth. Paul struck the man blind but I have shown you false and I still see. you are a liar
1Cor. 9:2 says, If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord, here Apostle Paul is showing the Corinthian Church how that some can see and others cant, so me telling you I have seen the Lord Jesus would not make me an Apostle unto you, for you are not part of the seal of mine apostleship in the Lord.
My friend, you dont know me from a can of paint, and from your comment you dont know the scriptures anymore than you know me. For the Holy Scriptures says in Rev. 2:02 and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars Youve neither tried me nor found me a liar. So how do you justify your comment? For the Bible says prove all things (1 Thes. 5:21).
Yes, I avoided your question regarding my apostleship, for the scriptures say, avoid foolish questions Tit. 3:9, and you asked me a question with an answer, and to ask a question with an answer is foolish and folly, Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
So Jesus was foolish when answered with a question? 1Jo 4:1 ¶ Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
bless you mathis
calvinhill69 2 months ago
sir you better say that!! we have alot of lost sheep in the church. everybody can't receive this.
corneliuslb 10 months ago
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jerbar120 1 year ago
This man is a false apostle, copying sc johnson who died and is on his way to hell when he dies he goes to hell also !!
COC320 2 years ago
To COC320, stop with your hating and provide SCRIPTURE to prove your statements or just keep silent. I thank God for Apostle Mathis preaching the truth.
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
To COC320: What did Apostle Mathis preach in this clip that you disagree with???????
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
HIS BEWITCHED
Iluv2bblk 2 years ago
Prove it.....................
injesuschrist 2 years ago
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jerbar120 1 year ago
AMEN!!!
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
Thanks for your support, be blessed.
Farewell.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
So Now we see that if YOU do not understand Hebrew, Greek, Apologetics etc... (Which it seems you may not), These understanding are NEEDED by a pastor, teacher, etc... if We are to teach with as little as possible.
You had said SCHOOL don't make a preacher.
Which is TRUE, God MAKES A PREACHER.but we command to STUDY....
BTW 1 of the reasons we today must take that command to Study serious. We do not live in the time, culture, etc... of 2000 yrs plus. It is imperative STUDY & PRAY.
RRAA117 2 years ago
In the Hebrew text this phrase is "karat beriyt". The word karat literally means "to cut". When a covenant is made a fattened animal is cut into pieces and laid out on the ground. Each party of the covenant then passes through the pieces signifying that if one of the parties fails to meet the agreement then the other has the right to do to the other what they did to the animal (see Genesis 15:10 and Jeremiah 34:18-20).
RRAA117 2 years ago
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RRAA117 2 years ago
Two other Hebrew words related to beriyt and also derived from the parent root bar can help understand the meaning of beriyt. The word beriy means fat and barut means meat. Notice the common theme with bar, beriy and barut, they all have to do with the slaughtering of livestock. The word beriyt is literally the animal that is slaughtered for the covenant ceremony. The phrase "make a covenant" is found thirteen times in the Hebrew Bible
RRAA117 2 years ago
BTW [Maurer] is a scholar from where derived the statement below concerning VISION.
Anyways, The Hebrew word beriyt means "covenant" the cultural background of the word is helpful in understanding its full meaning. Beriyt comes from the parent root word bar meaning grain. Grains were fed to livestock to fatten them up to prepare them for the slaughter.
RRAA117 2 years ago
I am saying this, you are trying to interpret this passage a wrong understanding, naming our modern understanding. As with ALL scripture we must read and understand as the Hebrews of 2000 plus years did, OF COURSE WITH MUCH PRAYER.
You mistranslation the word for vision.
in verse 11, "the whole vision." "Vision" is the same here as "revelation," or "law"; in Isa 28:15, the same Hebrew word is translated, "covenant" [Maurer].
RRAA117 2 years ago
Hello,
You are in ERROR the book is in ISA. is not the same as in REV. 5: 1-5.
In this passage the word BOOK in Greek is:
βιβλίον
biblion
bib-lee'-on
A diminutive of G976; a roll: - bill, book, scroll, writing.
IT MEANS A TANGIBLE ITEM. NOT A "Spiritualized NOTION OF A BOOK.
YOU CAN NOT TAKE 2 UNRELATED VERSES & TRY TO MAKE THEM LOOK AS IF THEY ARE REFERRING TO THE SAME THING.
TO DO THAT IS JUST POOR SCHOLARSHIP OF THE SCRIPTURE.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Isa 29:11-12 says the book was sealed and could not be read by the learned and unlearned. So what are you saying.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
But observe, "The vision has become thus to you whose minds the god of this world has blinded; but it is not so in itself, it is not so to all; the same vision which to you is a savour of death unto death to others is and shall be a savour of life unto life." Knowledge is easy to him that understands.
RRAA117 2 years ago
True,
But you make the wrong conclusion.
IT MEANS THIS (ONCE PROPERLY STUDIED FROM THE HEBREW & IN CONTEXT.
we may take it thus:-The book of prophecy was given to them sealed, so that they could not read it, as a just judgment upon them; because it had often been delivered to them unsealed, and they would not take pains to learn the language of it, and then made excuse for their not reading it because they were not learned.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Is this description telling us what the ark looked like? Not at all, it is describing its function by telling us that this ark is very large and capable of transporting a very large load of animals.
When keeping these three keys in mind while reading the text you will begin to approach the Bible from a Hebrew perspective rather than from the Greek perspective we have all been taught since birth.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Also the Scriptures says in Isa 29:11-12, And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. So we see that weather learned or not, Jesus is the only one who can open the Book and Im not talking about a natural book.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Function
Hebrew thought is more concerned with function whereas we, and our Greco-Roman thought, are more concerned with appearance. When we read the Biblical text we are constantly creating a mental image of what the text is describing but the original author is not describing an image of appearance but an image of function.
and this is how you are to make it, the length of the vessel is three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
RRAA117 2 years ago
The Hebrew word for anger is אף aph [639] but literally means "a flaring of the nostrils in anger," a substance of action. In fact, the word אף aph [639] is also the same Hebrew word for the nose. Throughout this book you will be challenged to cease thinking abstractly and instead open your mind to the concrete meaning of words as they were understood from an Hebraic perspective.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Action
Our modern languages are the product of a Greco-Roman world where abstract words are prolific. An abstract is a word or thought that cannot be related to one of the five senses; hearing, sight, touch, smell and taste. However, each Hebrew word is related to a concrete idea, a substance of action. A good illustration of the differences is the word anger which, from a modern perspective, is an abstract idea
RRAA117 2 years ago
Inside the goat hair tent of the Hebrews the roof is black but the gaps between some of the fibers of the material allow for pinholes of light to penetrate through giving the appearance of stars in the black sky. For this reason, the Hebrews saw the night sky as God's tent stretched out over the world, his family
RRAA117 2 years ago
From our own culture we could conclude that this is a reference to the creation of the stars which we know to be giant balls of burning gas billions of miles from us. But, this perspective, as accurate as it may be, must be ignored and instead understood from Isaiah's perspective of the heavens.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Culture
The Hebrew language, as is the case with every language, is closely tied to the culture the speakers and writers belong to. When reading the Bible, whether in Hebrew, English or any other language, it is essential that it be read through the eyes and mind of the Hebrew culture and not one's own culture. To illustrate this lets look at Isaiah 40:22.
It is he... that stretches out the heavens as a curtain
RRAA117 2 years ago
Understanding how the Ancient Hebrew thought is crucial in proper Biblical understanding. If we are to interpret the Biblical text according to our way of thinking then the interpretation will be contaminated with modern Greco-Roman thinking. In my many years of research into the language of the Bible I have discovered three keys to proper interpretation of the words and ideas within the text.
RRAA117 2 years ago
It is simply assumed by most people that everyone everywhere thinks in pretty much the same manner. This could not be farther from the truth. In fact, the thinking processes of different cultures are as different as day is from night. In this book we will be examining Hebrew words and ideas so that we can better understand how the mind of the Hebrew works.
RRAA117 2 years ago
All modern day translations of the Bible are written from a very westernized perspective and have erased the original Hebraic, Eastern, perspective of the original words in the text. Once the Hebraicness of the text is restored, a common theme can be found throughout the Bible rising to the surface - our nomadic migration through the wilderness of life.
RRAA117 2 years ago
A language is closely tied to the culture of those who speak the language. In the case of the Hebrews who were a nomadic people of the Near East, their language is closely connected to their nomadic culture. Each Hebrew word describes an action that can be seen in the nomadic journeys of the Hebrews through the wilderness.
RRAA117 2 years ago
I will be most happy to, but since the post are limited to 500 letters it is difficult. I will it a try.
first of all We must understand the the original Hebrew and Greek & its understanding (FULL UNDERSTANDING) ie. its languish, culture, context and logic.
By Logic I mean the Hebrew mans mindset which was a concrete understanding (the Hebrews did not think as we do today. They understood things that were known by their 5 senses. I will give examoles of what I mean.
RRAA117 2 years ago
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it, Isa 55:10-11. So you see the Word of God don't come from no language of man, but from heaven. Ye do err, Thanks
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Yes it does, God used the Hebrew language to convey HIS WORDS and HIMSELF to man.
Although the KJV CONVEYS a surface meaning of Gods WORD. It we would receive a full and richer understanding if we study the WORD from the original languishes. REMEMBER "Study to show your self approved".
English convey the Hebrew or Greek fully, that is because Hebrew or Greek can't be translated one word for one word. A Hebrew Word often conveys a whole thought. NOT JUST A MEANING OF ! or 2 WORDS.
RRAA117 2 years ago
Dear L Mathis,
YOU CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HEBREW OR GREEK.
THEREFORE YOUR INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE IS FAULTY AND YOUR DOCTRINE IS FAULTY.
YOU ARE READING THE KJV AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE FROM A HELLENISTIC (MODERN MINDSET & VIEW)
RATHER, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE FROM A HEBREW MINDSET OF 2000 YRS AGO.
I MAKE THIS STATEMENT TO YOU AND ALL MINISTERS' OF THE GOSPEL.
WE ALL MUST STUDY TO SHOW OUR SELVES APPROVED,
I AM SORRY TO SAY, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AS U SHOULD,
RRAA117 2 years ago
Well explain to me in ENGLISH how our understanding is not correct. Your talking, but your not saying anything........
injesuschrist 2 years ago
and also you said he removed your comments, what are you talking about I was always able to view your comments, please address this statement, and you said you didn't misquoted any scriptures and you did, please address these two statements of mine?????????????
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
I have copy pasted all the scriptures I've given . You falsly accused me of misquoting . You defend the man that calls him self an apostle. Apostles have seen Jesus. Do you really believe that he has seen Jesus. Why do you post things and then take them down? perfect means complete. Is the bible not complete?
studyjesus 2 years ago
you are not understanding me, you use the term Bible well the word bible is not found in the scriptures, and I know that God word is, was and shall always be Perfect, but 1 Co 13:10 say's when that which is perfect is come, and all God people are waiting on that perfect day of the Lord which is to come and everything else shall be done away, what are you waiting on?
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
so the perfect day is the great and terrible day of the Lord, great for the sheeps and terrible for the goats, and in that day there will be no more need of prophecy, tongues, knowledge, for God himself shall be with us, so shall we ever be with the Lord, so until that perfect day we need prophecies, knowledge and tongues, and apostles and prophets
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
1 Titus 3:10, 11 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condenmed of himself. For this cause you have been rejected, and our discussion is ended.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Praise God Apostle Mathis. This conversation reminds me of when Satan came to Jesus in the wilderness and challenged him, if he be the Son of God, to turn the stone into bread. Likewise, "studyjesus" (aka Satan) challenged you to prove you were an Apostle. You stood as Jesus, showing him you had nothing to prove to him.
bianca1shante 2 years ago
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
(KJV) Some apostle, won't give an answer. You are a foll who blindly follows
studyjesus 2 years ago
you are missing the point, you didn't just ask him a question you told him your answer, of what you thought of him when you called him a sorcerer without him even getting a chance to make a statement, so from that point why would he answer you, just to prove a point? and you are trying to avoid any thing you may have said that wasn't right, also Jesus didn't answer the Chief Priest and the Scribes, because of the deceit in their hearts (Luke 20:1-8)
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
So you are the heritc? LOL yep. There are no prophets or apostles today. 1Co 13:8 ¶ Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
Is the bible perfect/complete?
studyjesus 2 years ago
there are no scriptures to justify a perfect bible for the word of God has and will always be perfect, but the scriptures do tell us of a perfect day Pro 4:18
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
(KJV) 1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
studyjesus 2 years ago
You are mistaken, I have not taken down any posting of yours. All of your comments are still there. I have nothing to hide.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
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mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
If that be so, then that would erase prophets, teachers, miracles, gifts of healings, helps, governments and diversities of tongues.
1Cor. 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order. to remove the apostles would not be decent and you would have no order. Therefore without an apostle you have no church for God set the apostles first. Dont add or take away
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Apostles have seen Jesus! have you seen Jesus? no . you are a faud with no power
studyjesus 2 years ago
I have enjoyed viewing this discussion. It seems that Apostle Mathis is determined to stay within the scriptures. Where you, on the other hand, have misquoted a lot of scriptures with a bad interpretation, and misspelled several words. You tried to call him a sorcerer and said "soccerer" you tried to call him a fraud and said "faud." Your screen name is called study?
bianca1shante 2 years ago
Misquoted the scriptures? I've copy / pasted them directly out of the KJV. You are dishonest and a liar. Misspelled words? Is that the best you can do? LOL .
studyjesus 2 years ago
brother study jesus to be honest your not looking to good! I have to agree with bianca1shante you have misquoted alot of scriptures and you keep spelling words incorrectly. my question to you is brother study is how does GOD reveal his holy word in this day and time?
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
I'm copy/pasting the verses right out of the bible program so you are lying about misquoting verses. " how does GOD reveal his holy word in this day and time? " Have you ever heard of the bible? Duh.
studyjesus 2 years ago
you may be copying the verses now, but at first you were not and only because the apostle told you that you were misquoted verses then you changed
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
Apostles have seen Jesus. Has this man seen Jesus?
studyjesus 2 years ago
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mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
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Like if he would have said Ive seen the Lord you would have believed him, and please the next time you write, if you would please if you have the guts, don't attack but defend the statement I declare that you made that wasn't correct, you seem always to write back trying to attack, but never defend the things that are directed to you, so if you would please answer my questions??????????
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago
Perhaps one of the most tragic ironies of history - the African American embrace of Christianity, a type of mass Stockholm Syndrome:
"You may purchase slaves from the foreigners among you. You may purchase their children treating them as property, passing them on to your children as inheritance. " Leviticus 25:44-46
fctchk 2 years ago
The scriptures say in 1Cor. 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. For you said, Paul said he was the last to see Jesus and apostles have seen Jesus so if Paul was last and every apostle have seen the Lord Jesus, then are you saying there are no more apostles?
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God
Matt. 22:29
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Mt 10:1 ¶ And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Mr 6:7 ¶ And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; Lu 9:1 ¶ Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
Where is this man's power? LOL he has none
studyjesus 2 years ago
You also insinuated that I could strike you with blindness, as Paul struck the Sorcerers with blindness to prove that I was an apostle, well the scriptures doesnt say that, Acts 13:11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. So it was the hand of the Lord, not the hand of Paul.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Apostles had the power given to them. Where is your power Mt 10:1 ¶ And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
you are powerless and a faud!
studyjesus 2 years ago
You misquoted 1Cor. 15:8 the last to see Jesus is your quote, here is the scripture quoted in its entirety, 1Cor. 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. Paul never said, he was the last to see Jesus, as you quoted, but he did say last of all and the all whom Paul was pertaining to are those whom he mentioned, see 1Cor 15:3-7.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
I quoted the KJV . 1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
(KJV) You have taken down my post showing you are a liar and hiding thetruth. Paul struck the man blind but I have shown you false and I still see. you are a liar
studyjesus 2 years ago
1Cor. 9:2 says, If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord, here Apostle Paul is showing the Corinthian Church how that some can see and others cant, so me telling you I have seen the Lord Jesus would not make me an Apostle unto you, for you are not part of the seal of mine apostleship in the Lord.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Apostles have seen Jesus. Have you seen Jesus? LOL you are the soccerer
studyjesus 2 years ago
My friend, you dont know me from a can of paint, and from your comment you dont know the scriptures anymore than you know me. For the Holy Scriptures says in Rev. 2:02 and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars Youve neither tried me nor found me a liar. So how do you justify your comment? For the Bible says prove all things (1 Thes. 5:21).
injesuschrist 2 years ago
Again Apostles have seen Jesus. I notice you didn't answer that question. Paul said he was the last to see Jesus . 1Co 15:8
You are a fake and if I'm wrong which I'm not you could always strike me blind as Paul did Ac 13:11
studyjesus 2 years ago
Yes, I avoided your question regarding my apostleship, for the scriptures say, avoid foolish questions Tit. 3:9, and you asked me a question with an answer, and to ask a question with an answer is foolish and folly, Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
injesuschrist 2 years ago
So Jesus was foolish when answered with a question? 1Jo 4:1 ¶ Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
(KJV) Now you avoid the question? You are a fraud
studyjesus 2 years ago
Apostle is right you were trying to ask him a question with you answer
mrsavemelordjesus 2 years ago