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  • @funkyoujazzhole Are you saying that america is a first world country? Because if so, we still don't have any tests that are 100% correct yet. It's all antibodies tests still... Yes, you'd think because we're in 2012 that would have advanced the technology, but one can only wish and hope.

  • CONCLUSION: HIV is a big hoax.

  • Dont take any AZT. HIV does not cause AIDS. AZT causes  AIDS

  • Somene murdered Freddie Mercury

  • Dont take any AZT. HIV does not cause AIDS.

  • Is this forum being censored by the poster?

  • For those with HIV+ if the drugs make you feel bad and sick than stop! If it not than keep taking it! Beause life is short, got to live happy. Don't force yourself to take something that make you feel unwell and living a life like hell. If die, die happy don't die painful! There are a lot of secret in life that we don't know! If you waiting for a cure, it just like the secret of area 51. You know alien do exist but you never see it, just like example for HIV cure! It will take more people than

  • @Vietheroz i hope you know the difference btwn 'than' and 'then'

  • @ShattyDiablo who cares..

  • @AboveStoopidity was about to write smthn smart but i noticed ur name and i understood

  • @ShattyDiablo from ur post I doubt you'd write smthn "smart"..

  • Everyone come the beep down does it matter anymore? Take the drugs or not denial or believe, does that matter anymore?? Because soon or later we all die!! It just the matter of time! What is importan is that we live happy, even it only 10 year!!

  • @felicidad2012 This movie was bs...If you're infected symptoms take 10 years to show from time of contraction. Don't spread this around to other people. Take the retrovirals or you will die. I'm not trolling you.

  • I must see this video in my language,spanish.

  • @StefanLanka2012 You're an ignorant buffoon and moron's like you are responsible for the lack of action in South Africa. Duesberg is a nut. And you are a moron for buying into his bullshit....fucking backwards non-contributing science denialist scum. I suppose you think MMR causes autism and the world is ending in 2012 too? Do something useful and get hit by a bus.

  • @thesweetmolasses Google....Duesberg vindicated

    "....t’s worth noting too that Duesberg’s criticism of inflated AIDS-death numbers for South Africa, suppressed from Medical Hypotheses, has been vindicated by publication in a .........peer-reviewed, PubMed-abstracted journal......... [Medical students in Africa need not fear HIV, 2010/05/31 ].....Defenders of the flawed HIV = AIDS belief have resorted to ad hominem attacks for upwards of two decades....."

  • i dont understand, if there is no hiv virus why do people who "dont have it" die?

  • @radubradu they die because the "medicine" is poison

  • @OcRaM86 yes but when there were no drugs for hiv why did the people die in the first place?

  • @radubradu they die of AIDS.. HIV is a virus that supposedly causes AIDS..

  • @noclassatall Ha...that's what you get when you go to anonymous UNqualified amateurs for info. Even wiki doesn't claim wiki is valid as a reference

    Google...WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY

    "Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been

    reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with

    complete, accurate or reliable information."

  • is there a natural cure for me? been hiv+ since 2008

    love to be normal again...

    thanks

  • @1mhiv It is very possible you are already normal. If you took a Western Blot or ELIZA then your test was completely useless as far as science goes. Are you sick? You will become sick if you start taking the meds. First thing to do is start building up your natural immunity. Anyway , we have no idea about your particular case, so it's impossible to say if there is a "natural" cure. ACAM dot org is a good place to find natural or alternative health practicioners.

  • @MindofaJedi You're fucking massive scumbag. I can't believe how stupid what you just said is.

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  • @thesweetmolasses Maybe you should try reading a book, getting an education, or getting a hobby. Going on the internet to try to argue in favor of propoganda that has already been disproven is pointless. Get a life. AIDS is a scam. It is not caused by HIV, that is a fact. You should watch less Fox News sheepie.

  • @MindofaJedi Just keep putting coffee up your ass faggot. And it's never pointless to underscore ignorance and denialism when it's found. The only fact shown on this page is that you are an oaf. "natural medicine" is the scam, and you are either a flagrant moron, or a con artist.....or some combination of the two....AND IT'S ELISA...NOT "ELIZA"...but I'm the one the needs to read more right? Shithead.

  • @thesweetmolasses You are definately the one who needs to read more, to underscore denialism you have to stop being ignorant yourself. You don't even know what the ELSA tests for , do you dumbass? It stands for enzyme linked immunosorbent assay, and it cannot test for HIV-source: the manufacturer of the test. It really is dumb sheep like yourself that make the world such a horrible place. Now go shopping on the mall so the "terrorists don't when" and give your uncle grandpa a kiss for me.

  • @MindofaJedi "terrorists don't when"??? Uncle grandpa?? What the fuck are you talking about?? Mindofa jedi? More like Mindofapotato. Bottom line --you're spreading harmful trash because you're ignorant and you don't know what you're talking about. But the worst thing is you've convinced yourself that you do. That's why you disgust me. That's why you are a scumbag. Because you are completely ignorant of science and medicine, yet you believe yourself to be some sort of Vanguard --you're not.

  • @thesweetmolasses Honey....calling people names isn't a scientific reference and the burden of proof is on believers not skeptics. If YOU believe in the virus of mass destruction then it is You who needs to cough up the evidence and it needs to be in the form of a scientific reference.....Author Title Date and Journal

    If you can scrape anything up feel free to post it my featured video....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN

    3 logical fallacies and you're out

  • @MindofaJedi Just because you are incredibly ignorant and uneducated, doesn't mean the rest of us are. You wouldn't know the difference between a Hepadnaveridae virus and bacteria if I showed you them on a slide. The microscope I work with daily costs more than your house. You learned about HIV from a Lifetime Movie. Get a clue genius. That is why you come off like an ignorant cunt, because you are.

  • @MindofaJedi My god you are stupid. I agree with the terrorists statements but aids is real. ELSA tests are shit. They have much better tests now in first world countries that are 100% accurate. AIDS is real you stupid clown. Stop spreading misinformation. You are basically and AIDS nazi.

  • @funkyouJazzhole They have been using the same exact test in the USA for the last 25 years, so that was completely incorrect. When you say AIDS, what do you mean? There are over 63 documented diseases that cause AIDS. Did you mean HIV was real? Yes there is a virus called HIV. Did you mean that virus causes AIDS? That would be a demonstrably incorrect statement. What are you saying? Do you have any idea? I didn't think so.

  • @1mhiv no this movie is misinformation and lies. Although the rates of contracting the disease are low outside the gays and drug users. If you get it you have it for life. Sorry, take your meds and you will live long. People don't die in one year from the dosages anymore they have refined the pills. AZT pills will make you will 30 years more now or something. Don't die listening to these stupid morons on this video.

  • 0:28 - how can you find the "probable" cause of AIDS - this should have set the alarm bells ringing immediately!

    It's like saying you have found the "probable" existence of God.

    Anything can be probable - you need proof!

  • NWO!

  • AMAZING INFO! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS DOCUMENTARY!!

  • I just had a seminar/conversation given by Dr. Francis at Redwood High School for our physiology class, and wow.. he is admiration for me. He said he have to go to North Korea and China in two weeks. Thank you Dr. Francis.

  • @unimog2012

    This. It is sad. Political fuck-up of epic porportions. And Robert Gallo still earns royalties for every test performed as far as I'm aware :-/

  • gallo lied, he hung up on gary null, check my vids

  • HIV is not the cause of AIDS

  • HIV = LIE

  • Robert Gallo INJECTED himself with the HIV virus on live tv...

  • @unimog2012 Ha...did you see this? Google...More Prosecutors Dropping Criminal HIV Charges

    "“We expect this trend to continue,” says OMSJ Director Clark Baker. “While the AIDS industry has convinced Americans of the alleged AIDS epidemic, prosecutors have a hard time finding anyone willing to promote their propaganda under penalty of perjury.”

  • @unimog2012 Totally. I didn't want to say anything but didn't want to be accused of sockpuppetry either

  • GREAT VIDDY

  • @unimog2012 I tried to PM youbut couldn't. If you copy my copy pastes people will think you're my sockpuppet which makes me nervousafter what that idiot Kevin Kuritsky frm Aidstruth was pulling on youtube. So.....

  • @unimog2012 Pls b patient... not everyone is that smart, if you are very intelligent dont assume everyone is that smart..thank you

  • duesberg is a modern day messiah

  • @unimog2012 If people are getting this disease for not drinking clean water then the numbers would be even bigger in pretty much every single third world country in the world.

  • Is this saying aids is not real, or HIV is not real?

  • Listen to Montagnier back peddle.

  • Professor Duesberg never sold out to Big Pharma's AID$ and because of this he was ridiculed and punished , he is a true genius  with real integrity , in the end the truth always prevails , mass media hype and corruption has led us to this , Big Pharma must be held criminally responsible for this horrible drug induced genocide.

  • Comming this Summer!

  • an interesting link for you..

    search for: us patent for aids cure

    in google

  • i recommend the book, "Doctor Mary's Monkey"

  • all i know is that when i noticed that my body was feeling weak and noticed sevreral changes in my body my gut told me to get tested and i tested positive so hiv is real and i aint playing games with my life pretending it doesnt exist and it is a trick.

  • @Atitoinnyc

    I see your point.

    But how do you know that you haven't had HIV for years? Is this the first time you checked? You also have a whole lot of other bacteria, viruses and parasites in your blood and body. Why don't you beleive those are the cause of the changes in your body that you noticed?

  • @Atitoinnyc in addition to szililolabu reply how do plan to treat yourself then if you are going to take it so seriously? You don't want to end up taking drugs pretending they work.

  • @unimog2012 And thats why untreated AIDS patients all die. Thanks to medical science people can actually survive HIV. Its ignorant to suggest the opposite, and criminal when scientists (often not qualified) spread around this nonsense.

    By the way, AIDS is the whole combination of diseases, often including TB, that happen after a HIV infection. HIV infected still have TB, nobody is denying that, but they respond very diferently to medication than 'healthy' TB patients do.

  • @filegrabber1 UMMMM people without HIV also die! We all die at some point!

  • @filegrabber1 I quess luc montagnier isn`t qualified to speak on the subject either huh,google the man

  • I want to see this film.

  • This is criminal and potential dangerous. Aidsdenyers are of a same catergory as evolution and holocaust denyers.

  • @filegrabber1 Can't you see the common sense of all hoax you've been lie to since your "birthday"?

    BeJoy

  • @filegrabber1 Can't you see the common sense of all hoax you've been lie to since your "birthday"?

    BeJoy

  • @filegrabber1 - This way of thinking lead us to new fascism, new communism, new global dictatorship where there is ONLY ONE official truth and everything else is a lie aka "dangerous for society", just because control elite wants that way!

  • You know, at first I thought that was BS, but they may be on to something here. I mean looking back, when I got tested, they asked me tons of questions if I did anal, was gay, sleep with blacks, do drugs - I didnt think at the time, but now Im like 'yeah, why does that matter, do I have HIV or not?' I mean when we diagnose for cancer we dont ask 'well, does anyone else have it?' they just run the damn tests.  I think something is up here. I cant WAIT to see this movie.

  • Someone get House of Numbers on youtube :)

    Great trailer btw

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  • @zerocreator not every microorganism follows Kochs postulates, study a lil bit more microbiology and youll understand

  • @MasterKBKarma that's untrue and unscientific, sorry.

  • @zerocreator hi, can you post it on youtube pls? thanx

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  • @zerocreator why was this comment removed

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  • Oh, ye olde AIDS-shill spammer ccr5cxcr4 is back. Yawn. He asks, "How does what country you are in affect whether or not you are infected with a virus? Of course it doesn't. " And he would be right, except he is ignorant of the fact that so-called HIV-antibody tests are not standardized from country to country or lab to lab, so it is possible to be deemed "positive" in one country and "negative" in another, due to differing criteria. Yes it is absurd, but yes it is also true.

  • @unimog2012 Very true, and in Latin America tests have a wider range as to consider u HIV-possitive. So statistics can show that Latin America holds a very large population of HIV-AIDS sufferers!

  • aztsuckscom become a fan of aztsucks facebook

  • These lies have gone on long enough...these people sicken me..they should be burned at the stake..

  • Montagnier is definitely hedging his bets and backtracking. He refuses to Give Papadopoulos-Eleopolis credit for discovering the Redox theory of AIDS and is in practice claiming it as his own ides when he talkes about the benefits of anti-oxidants.

  • so is it a huge coincidence that people with HIV get the same infections? all of them? You guys are looking down on everything that the modern medicine has done in hundreds of years!! you people are crazy!! let's start denying the existence of cancer, leukemia, alzheimer, etc etc...

  • @melblue87 If al people "with HIV" got the "same infections" then they wouldn't have had to change and expand the definition of AIDS several times since the early 80s. They keep casting a wider net in a desperate attempt to create the illusion of a cohesive syndrome. In the real world, a syndrome's definition shrinks over time, as it becomes more clearly understood. In the make-believe world of HIV, the syndrome grows because otherwise there would be no syndrome at all.

  • @onecleverkid It is as simple as this: You include more and more diseases in the list so that more people can be tagged as HIV infected thus more AZTs distributed worldwide!

  • @melblue87 Wrong! The thing is that the number of infections tagged as HIV caused have grown in the last 15 years. So actually if u have any illness that won't go away and u belong to a "risk" group, then u're HIV possitive. Depending on what country u are in.. Seems like the HIV virus won't spread equally but chooses certain groups and countries!

  • @maicol1088 Wake up! If 1 in 5 people who are HIV+ and don't know, how come people are'nt dropping dead all around us like in the 80's? Because it's a big LIE!!! In Africa when someone dies, they dont get blood tested, it costs money. If they show symptons that could be attributed to a variety of other diseases then they say its AIDS. We have the sh+t scared out of us and are made to believe sex is dangerous, big pharma laughs at us and rakes in the chips.

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  • Hiv is only cause of aids

  • This vid posted APRIL 1st !!!!!!!

  • @hearNyou I think that's a coincidence, the video discuss serious matters, what about the website, was it created 1st of april too?

  • ok, what killed my uncle and freddy mercury? being gay killed them.. no, it was aids.

  • Also da haben wir was ich schon lange lange geglaubt habe. Dann geht mal los Leute und bumst euch aus !

  • Thanks again Brent.

  • Cocoon Soon To Bloom. Truth.

  • i've said it before and I'll say it again. The world has a problem. that problem is overpopulation. Leaders Worldwide have the secret responsibility to reduce the amount of people on this earth in whatever way necessary. Think about the problems that will go away.

    Scarcity of food,

    Scarcity of land,

    Scarcity of wealth,

    Reduction of Migration and Immigration,

    Less Fuel being consumed,

    More Fresh Water

    Decrease in Global Warming

    Animal extinction....list goes on...makes you think... Pass it on

  • It has made me think kepitreal... Will you be signing up for extermination and the sterilization and or extermination of all before and after you in your family bloodline??? Would mean more food, water, AIR, wealth and land for everybody else... Making you think yet?

  • I didn't say that. I also didn't say that i agree with it which is completely different than knowing and ignoring. For this sake unfortunately it is up to survival of the fittest even if everyone is trying to help each other out. It will always come down to that simple matter. have you read Ishmael? by Daniel Quinn?

  • @ Kep

    1) Scarcity of food won't be changed. In fact, killing off a quarter of the population may impact food production negatively.

    2) Scarcity of land. There's still a ton of land that's yet to be built on.

    3) Scarcity of wealth? Other than in third world countries, this isn't much of an issue. Most people live above the poverty line, and those that don't live better than those in third world countries.

    4) Global Warming is being proven bullshit.

    5) Animals that don't evolve die anyways.

  • okay you keep thinking that.

  • You're 100% correct here Elendryst.

    Kepitreal needs to do some research in earnest. NOT ONE of the points he makes has any merit. I for one refuse to argue with somone who refuses to see reality when it's presented, irrefutably, in front of them...

  • Of the dozen or so people I have known/know who have lived/are living with HIV, those who are TAKING MEDICATIONS, are the ones who are often sicker and have died, while those who AREN'T TAKING MEDICATIONS, are NEVER anymore sick than the average population, and certainly, have NONE of the complications that my friends on meds seem to continually suffer from. This is based on over 20 years of observation and close personal relationships. I knew this was bullshit. Rot in hell Big Pharma.

  • I have the same number of years of observation and have seen just the opposite. I believe you to be a liar or delusional.

  • I could care less what you believe Madwolf. Get  a rabies shot. Perhaps some of your brain is salvageable.

  • @BradJC70 why dont you proof this in a study?

  • @elvuitton I'm not a doctor.

  • @BradJC70 you dont have to be a doctor for that.

  • @elvuitton It's not in my field of expertise. I have only a small group of testimonies and personal observances to draw from. Many others, (hundreds of thousands at least, millions possibly) share the same views and experiences and have qualifications far beyond my own. I will leave it to another to do this kind of research, giving it the dedication and thoroughness it deserves.

  • what i dont get is if aids doesnt exist then what was causing so many people to die before this excuse of aids came up?

  • aids exist and does kill people, The question here is: does HIV the cause of aids? I dont think so...the cause of aids are : drug use, malnutrition,......definitely not HIV

  • The toxic drugs they are given....the fact that TB patients were misdiagnosed as AIDS...it how you react, by sitting in your armchair..

    Do what me and my friend did, we took 2 HIV test, we found that HIV test kits had a warning on it that says "does not detect HIV".

    Do some research of for CRYING OUT LOUD, watch this FUCKING documentary.

    My goodness!!!

  • @qwanraj LOUD NOISES!!!!!!

  • poverty, malnutrition, injection drug-use, rampant sexually transmitted infections, etc., depends on the risk group you're looking at.

  • there are people who have no longer aids... and nobody its talking about it and of course these people dont want that kind of attention eaither... the problrm its not about what we believe or what not... the problem is if we are mature enought and open enough to understand that everything its not black and white... and there is always a Grey... in every law there is a exception , and in this illness there is a cure!...

  • w t f?

  • Most AIDS patients have a history of drug abuse, for example poppers are the main cause of Kaposis Sarcoma, which is now lumped into the AIDS category. and its not just homosexuals, its drugs that are used in the gay LIFESTYLE by the minority, some of which develop AIDS regardless as to whether they have HIV or NOT. In 1990 67 percent of female AIDS patients were IV drug users, and thats just the ones who were on heroin.

  • Let me start by saying that I fires read Inventing the Aids Virus back when it was first published, and I happen to see it's logic. The thing that I find the most irritating about this subject is the way it's handled by those who say that HIV must be the cause of AIDS and don't even acknowledge that the dissenters even have a point. Harpers had a great article about it, but the New York times is just plain hostile. Why? Well one reason could be that they've gotten ads from the makers of AZT.

  • wat

  • when is it out on dvd?

  • it just came out on theaters so in lik ea few months probly less than a normal movie takes because its more of a documentery

  • they don't look at cancer logically either - see the work of Dr Tullio SImoncini especially about the genetic theory being more or less double talk. To say that a gene has all of a sudden "gone out of control" replicating like crazy is like saying your mouth that eats food all of a sudden eats your hand. Rather he proposes that cancer is a fungus - an infection.

  • The House of Numbers is about to explode! The Multitude of people being set free from the antretroviral chains of the AIDS Industry will come to an end. Thank You House of Numbers!

  • Couldn't agree more HIVVideos! 

    It's truly AWESOME to finally SEE light at the end of one of the longest, darkest & most evil tunnels in the history of man.

    ~South Africa~

  • Ahh I love this:D I saw this trailer on TV and went on youtube just to check out how long the comments that are written are:D

  • After over 25 years of fear Electron Microscopist Hans R. Gelderblom says in the video that the photo is the image of PWOBABLY of HIV virus. It doesn't get any more absurd than that!

  • Read THE EVOLVING DEFINITION OF AIDS By Robert Root-Bernstein.

    Just because a bunch of people say everyone is dying of AIDS doesn't mean a thing. Stop being lazy. Be proactive, do some research, read papers, investigate the debate. Then come to a conclusion. If you do this you may realize AIDS is not a disease ant people the world over are not dying from HIV.

  • uuhhh ok guess i need captions for this one.. so this is saying aids doesnt exist?.. soo uhhh. why are there millions dying of this so called AIDS?..language limitations i guess hehe

  • @rebanso, the video doesn't say AIDS doesn't exist. The HIV=AIDS causation is what questionable. HIV alone can not cause AIDS. There must be many factors combined that lead to the collapse of the immune system and further a person develops AIDSyndrome. There are plenty of HIV "positive" people who are healthy and not on meds. As far as Africa goes - there are plenty of diseases such as Malaria, TB, Pneumonia, STD's, parasites, warms, mulnutrition, lack of personal hygene, lack of sanitation,

  • aahhhh.. i see.. well the problem is that in spanish we only have one definition for AIDS and its SIDA.. i thought HIV and AIDS was the same thing..

  • @rebanso, Nope HIV and AIDS is not the same thing. What do people believe in Spain is the cause of AIDS? Just out of curiousity...how wide spread is SIDA in Spain? Whom SIDA in Spain affects the most? Is SIDA in Spain in epidemic proportions? Sorry for asking many questions, but it is very interesting to see how Spain deals with SIDA.

  • well im actually from costa rica thats central america, we speak spanish but were not spaniards hehe and.. yes we have plenty of ads speaking about SIDA and how to prevent it with the use of condoms.. and no were not "that" infected there are people with it but not like in epidemic proportions

  • @iraidushka Spain has less percentage of HIV infected than the USA, and in Spanish HIV is VIH and AIDS is SIDA, and we all know the difference. (I'm kinda scared of you using the terms "EPIDEMIC proportions", we're the world's ninth economy with a far better health system than the USA, why would AIDS be an epidemic disease here?).

  • @mephistomix, I asked a question about whether AIDS in SPAIN is in epidemic proportions. I don't live in SPAIN and don't know the situation with HIV and AIDS in SPAN. I just hear the estimates from AIDS establishment that blows up the numbers of HIV infected people throughout the world. And, you said IN SPAIN you have the name for HIV( thank God you do) which is VIH, however a guy from Puerto Rico who abviously speaks spanish told me that he thought that HIV and AIDS were the same

  • @mephistomix, I'm sorry he's from Costa Rica and if you scroll down and read the comments of REBANSO he says: "We have one definition for AIDS and it's SIDA."

  • SIDA (also French) is merely a direct translation of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome abbreviated.

    Sadly, the majority of people throughout the world, believe that an HIV test is an AID$ test ~because that's what even the medical folk refer to it as. In the meantime, HIV is a RETROVIRUS for which NO STANDARDS have been determined, so testing positive, if the test was accurate which they seldom are, simply means the presence of antibodies, just as German Measles would show positive in most!

  • @annie46664, we don't have to go far with the confusion on what HIV is, what the freaging AIDS is. My ex's doctor told him he has AIDS virus! Holy macaronni, I thought that by now after 25 years of these dubious theories on HIV=AIDS and "vast" knowledge about a "deadly" virus a trained doctor would know just what exactly AIDS is. Apparently he doesn't! Absurd!

  • iraidushka~Tragically, the MAJORITY of medical folk haven't the slightest clue apart from the CR*P & blatant LIES fed to them by the HIV/AID$ Establishment & those shills who are on their payroll making loads of money without any conscience about the genocide they're causing & least of all,any regard for the Hippocratic oath they took at the outset of their medical professions. SAD but true! It all boils down to MONEY! I've interviewed some who have told me that they dare NOT question the Est.

  • iraidushka~ You're just embarking on this horror journey ~ if you want to read the WORST ever, Google 'Liam Scheff' & read his absolutely HORRENDOUS findings at a NY orphanage aka supposed place of safety for babies & children! These poor kids (who OBVIOUSLY didn't have HIV since HIV has NEVER been obtained from any human ever!) where force fed PharMafia's HIV drugs & if they refused, they were fed into them via a tube inserted directly into their tiny bellies whilst they were strapped down. :(

  • It would, in my opinion, be AWESOME, if Liam's documentary was shown straight after HOUSE OF NUMBERS ~ EVERYONE would leave the theatre wanting to throw up in their empty popcorn boxes!

    The world deserves & NEEDS to know the TRUTH soonest, & those who have accumulated vast fortunes off the lies, should be forced to pay it all back to those who have suffered as a direct result of their lies ~starting with Robert Gallo of course!

    The more you research, the more ILL & ANGRY you too shall become.

  • @mephistomix, what HIV tests are used in SPAIN? Do you have ELISA followed by more specific WesternBlot, or is it only the ELISA which is sensitive, but not as specific as WB is?? In US if a doctor performed ELISA without the confirmatory WB a patient can take his doctor to court for that and sue him for medical negligence. As far as I know many countries don't use WB to confirm ELISA.

  • iraidushka ~ Western Blot is WAY too expensive ~ so the much cheaper, much more common ELISA is used in most countries for most being tested for almost all infectious viral diseases ~ including HIV which IS NOT infectious & only a harmless, non-transmittable RETROVIRUS! A POSITIVE test result (if the test was accurate of course) would only identify the presence of ANTIBODIES & thus mean IMMUNITY & should be reason to CELEBRATE & NOT sit on death row, nor take any meds!

    The lie$ are SHOCKING!

  • @annie46664 , Dr. Wiess says in the interview with Leung that WB has become a dogma in HIV research, That is was promoted into some sort of Holy Grail, That it is useless, not worth taking diognostic test. Now, he claims he was taken complitely out of context and he was talking "really" about WB being used for screening donors blood. Well, does that mean WB would become suddenly USEFUL diognostic test IF he was to discuss WB being used in individual cases?

  • @annie46664, according to "scientists's" contradictory statments about HIV tests, both ELISA and WESTERN BLOT should be banned immidietly! They are worthless, highly innacurate, loads of dog's shit tests. I can only imagine those little babies deliberatly being poisoned on the daily basis. We think of US as modern, well-developed western country that have some "morals", yet HIV related atrocities have been executed in this country every single day for quarter century!!! Same atrocities apply

  • @annie46664 , to Africa and the rest of the world. I can't wait to see THOSE accountable for the genocide, that has been commited on the daily basis for so long, being thrown to prison where they'll rut for the rest of their lives!!!

  • no one cares about your repeated comments

  • @annie46664

    Just strange that HIV-positives usually die, with quite similar symptoms, ain't it?

    You don't know what you're talking about. You don't have the slightest idea about even the most basic scientific data about HIV.

  • bifimi ~ BLA BLA BLA! Are you done ranting? :)

  • @rebanso lack of clean water, lack of medication to treat those diseases. What kind of immune system will handle all of those demaging conditions? Thus, thousands of africans develop AIDSyndrome - a combination of many conditions and diseases, however if you go to Wikipedia and look up AIDS...TB, Malaria, parasitosis and such are not included in the catigory of AIDS defying diseases. Africans diognosed with AIDS without HIV tests. Even the very existence of HIV is questionable.

  • no its saying HIV doesn't exist, AIDS isn't a single thing

  • well it was because I was a stupid teenager, not drugs. Last March, I did go to a specialist and he told me that my viral load was high and that my Tcell count was only at 1800. But, other than that I only had a swollen lymphoid, and it turned out to be genetic. From what I understand, a person with HIV has to have 2 or more other diseases (that they say is caused by the HIV) to have the diagnoses changed to AIDS.

  • interesting. em gonna watch this.

  • There is no test for HIV. Just read the scientific literature. Don't listen to what scientists say. Examine the different criteria used around the world & evidence for yourself. Just because someone wearing a white coat says the tests are accurate means nothing. What would u actually want them to do, admit they've made a mistake.

    This is no different then asking a murder if he killed someone. What's he going to say, yes? Of course not. HIV is the same. They will never admit this is a rouse.

  • Well if HIV/Aids do not exist, then we will have a lot of people with egg on there face.

  • well I was diagnosed with HIV about 13 years ago. I have been with my husband for 15 years. I have 3 kids. My husband and kids do not have HIV. The doctors have told me, that I am just a carrier, that I can not give it to anyone. Most of the the 13 years I have been diagnosed with it, I have not had my meds. I have read about it not existing before. All I can say is they need to figure it out and tell the truth. Just the stigma of being HIV+ changes peoples lives.

  • You're only a "carrier," due to your low viral load. You can always play the odds and refuse medication, but for every person with stable viral loads like you, there are innumerable people whose CD4 and viral load go into an immunocompromised state.

  • Bronx43, are you her doctor? How would you know about her "viral load" level? Perhaps the more logical explanation is that she is not infected.If someone can be infected for decades without getting sick or transmitting it to others, perhaps it's not a disease at all. This is ridiculous. Did anyone stop to think HOW she got "infected" in the first place?

  • Well this is interesting. After the past few months and the climategate / hockey stick graph / record breakingly cold weather, I'm much less inclined to take scientists' word as scripture.

    But still, if AIDS isn't real, why did Freddie Mercury or Pedro Zamora die?  Why are people dieing in Africa like crazy?

  • Freddie & Pedro died because they took AZT,

    People in Africa die for many reasons, could it be they dont have clean drinking water? or decent food? or proper medical treatment for the various health problems they suffer from?

  • Or the vaccines they're given on top of that

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  • After scientists have proven to be such bald-faced liars when it comes to global warming and DDT-- yeah....I trust them now about as far as I can throw them.

  • Don't generalize scientists as liars. They're the reason you have a computer to sit bitch about the short-comings of others online.

    Perhaps you should take a look at your government, your monetary system, and all other inevitable factors in this inherently corrupt society. Just a tip.

  • Anytime 99.99% of scientists agree on something, a bunch of backwoods hippies will violently disagree with little to no evidence.

    That's cool though, scientists are usually proven wrong...?

  • Dangerous :|

  • WHAT!

  • If AIDS was caused by a sexually transmitted virus, then the West would have MILLIONS of AIDS DEATHS every year, seeing as more and more people are having more and more sexual partners every year, and all REAL STD cases rise year upon year...

    How come the 'deadly' 'AIDS virus' doesn't manage to do the same?

    Have you ever thought HOW HIV is allegedly 'transmitted' from woman to man? How does it get into the man's blood stream? Down the end of his urethra?

  • because of condoms dumb ass

  • That may very well be the most retarded thing I have ever watched. AIDS isn't real because of pharmaceutical companies? Well I guess nobody told the Africans who have died by the millions from not getting treatment!

  • Cretin.

    AZT and Nevirapine are deadly poisons which kill people. Google 'The trouble with Nevirapine' and read it.

    Stop pretending that you actually have a clue what you are talking about, when you have never researched the other side.

  • The film is suggesting that Numerous other diseases are being called AIDS/HIV based on the persons lifestyle/sexuality etc..

  • mann i am so confused i don't even which one to believe

  • i find this disgraceful that this is being sold as a movie. If it believes what it is saying, then make it part of the public access! Don't try to capitalize the truth. come on. i barely know what this movie is saying

  • Cogito Er