Science and Spirituality

[ghfjtuflhg]

Thus albert pike was correct some people deserve to be manipulated..

[Alphadestrious]

Energy is not created nor destroyed, it is infinite. Where can this emanate from? Why are all these laws perfectly fine tuned? There are micro and macro processes that happen all around us and the universe but how can this all be? Science in this aspect can answer how the laws of nature work and what have you. But why?

[janewoosd]

dmt ..

[janewoosd]

dmt

[ArkBlacksword]

You speak like you need a neuroscientist to evaluate if you got a stroke...

Also, I've seen people with "dead" left emisphere, and it doesn't blur any line, it fucks up their capacities even worse than your speaking is killing my desire to live....

The anti-scientific thing about spirituality is that it cannot be proven, measured, demostrated, etc....

You have NO idea of what you are saying, please go read books of neuroscience, the mind, psychology, social psychology and perception.

[Alphadestrious]

@ArkBlacksword

Chill out, no one is bashing science here. Spirituality and science go hand in hand. Yes science is correct and has proven many things I am not bashing that, but only in the sense of what is tangible and quantified. There are limitations in science, and when quantum physics is explained, science goes back to spirituality. Holographic universes, things being at many places at once, multiple dimensions, etc.

[andrewsacht]

"You cannot lasso the truth because the truth is infinite"

You are definitely running on all 4 cylinders; I would love to talk with you.

[joshuatreeboyeee]

I have to disagree with the affinity between science and spirituality based on the axiom of "allowing experience to come to you naturally". Scientific explanations are derived from the contention that you are not allowed to assign your own sense the arbiter of 'what is the case'. This is also why the scientific community recognizes that its achievements are conjectural (along with any practice of 'exploration' the mind performs). The point, however, is to separate objective from subjective.

[andrewsacht]

@joshuatreeboyeee The difficulty is that it is impossible to transcend the boundaries of human perception.

[joshuatreeboyeee]

@andrewsacht I agree with you completely, all we have is perception. But this does not make the task of objectivity a futile one - We're more than capable of codifying information to standards that (as best we can) are cleansed of ambiguous meaning. Don't want to sound like I'm advocating the abolition of poetry or anything. But the most classic example of this is Aristotle's work on logic. Don't you agree?

[joethepro3]

Thanks for your views on this matter. I myself have had an experience during the time i had a brain hemmorhadge on the 21st july 2008. I had a vision of seeing 'beings' surrounded in light, as well as seeing my grandfather sat down. Was strange to witness the essence of 'no-time'. Still, that was the most prominant memory i had throughout my 2months in hospital.......the others were of reality, of which were hard to trace back to. Brings forth the idea that once youre past, you get to learn stil

[courtneycsavoy]

Ive always felt that science and religion are basically the same. Just interpreted differently.

[gnosisoneness]

The problem with physical science is that it ignores the mind. Neuroscience describes the brain but not the mind. Neuroscience comes thru our outer five senses and the mind is experienced internally. The mind is both the observer and the observed whereas physical science is the observed. Most peoples concept of the world is in terms of our outer world then we used outer world metaphors to describe our inner world.

[gnosisoneness]

the spiritual is an inner experience whereas physical science is empirical.

The material world is experienced thru our

outer 5 senses whereas the spiritual is

our inner self. When we describe the

spiritual as something physical, it is

metaphorical. Many empirical

scientists discount our inner experience

or perhaps they lack the ability of

introspection.

[mayabelldotcom]

this young man is so medical doctor and spiritualist material. the terms he uses, most adults don't even know.

[mayabelldotcom]

this young man is very smart and has a very good insight. the pharmaceuticals don't want people with strong spirits and immune system to health them. that is bad for the pharmaceutical companies business.

[Cthuthul]

I overacted. again.

I meant, Christian religion is retarded.

[spiralmergence]

Thank you for underlining the fact that all theories in the social sciences and hard sciences are provisional. Any one theorist will select certain facts at the exclusion of others. But collectively, the knowledge quest is open ended. The health and fitness of our understanding depends on many minds working through time together. The fullness of our Being appears to be a shared quality that is vital to health and wisdom. Many will remember this quality in J. Taylor.

[MaBu888]

I am extended spatially and not.

[Cthuthul]

And let the people beliefe, what they want belief. you cant tell a human, what he has to belief.

Yes, in my opinion, religions, supernatural things, gods and demons are only halucinations of some people they are high. But let them beliefe, what they want to beliefe.

[Cthuthul]

in some things you are right... but: you cant damn philosophies, that say: "goodness is good"... no, i dont mean christs, the christian religion is a pervert thing, but... i mean buddhism. Yes, iam a atheist, but i defend buddhism, cause it can be a philosophy, or a religion... and i see only a very few points in buddhism, that dont agree with science.

[temporarilyavailable]

what gives you the wisdom to make such statement as "the christian religion is a pervert thing"?

[AMCabode]

I we are at the turn and initial understanding of this "dicotomy" that our subjective experiences are as important as scientific objective reality. Great video

[personwhosnowboards]

i love life, i know this is off topic but im high and its awesome that we have thoughts which no one can hear

[jponetwo]

Great video! I agree with the comment below about quantum physics. There are doors science has not even seen yet, let alone opened. All that aside, for a young man you are headed in a wonerful direction. I'm sure you'll do great things.

[codyloverainbow]

redlitrocket, Thank you for your work. If God does exist then it's obvious that eventually science itself will prove it. I think that quantum physics may be getting close. It's tricky to remain objective when the possibility that everything is connected is on the table. The important thing is for the scientists to really stay completely objective. Personally I hope everyone wakes up. Its so wonderful to hear intellectual people share their spirituality in such a clear way. This is a good thing.

[shipiboconibo]

You raise interesting questions man.I think its the cosmic joke though... if you see the gears of the machine you come back sounding like a fool when you try to explain it. I personally think she found enlightenment, at least during her condition. Unfortunately it seems no one really clearly paints the picture for anyone else, they always sound at least a little absurd. I think people are starting to emerge more though, and identify it with some glimpse they had of what she speaks of. Great vid!

[MaBu888]

Good metaphor: If you see the gears of the machine, you come back sounding like a fool when you try to explain it.

[shipiboconibo]

Thanks! :)

[NGRevenant]

Never looked at it that way, what is the reason behind our minds connecting these experiences with god and mystical powers in the first place?

Interesting

[AlaskanSky]

Matthew is very sweet. I like him!

[ajaxfilms]

Well said, Thanks! Have you raed C.G. Jung? I think you might like his writings.

[000johnson000]

I'm 21, but I see many people becoming more spiritual as their life progresses.. until its time to die..but thats another story. I think that whether a person experiences "that moment" in one sitting, or if their spirituality takes a more gradual route to express itself depends on the temperament your talking about. Anyways to everyone out there, I'm a college biology / chemistry major, and I'm trying to find some authors who write on hard science / spirituality.. any sugestions?

[GreggCorrr]

You might find interest in Jiddu Krishnamurti's work. specifically The Ending of Time.

[ricocamacho]

I wish that I had the understanding that you have now when I was your age. The world will be a better place when there are more individuals like you and us.

Disregard the idiocracy - the masses are still in the dark side. Soon will be made the reckoning..

[CurttoonSr]

"alot of affinity about science and spirituality".....do you have any idea of the meaning of the words you use?

[aGniOmDe]

he said: "affinity BETWEEN science and spirituality"

affinity: (noun) inherent likeness or agreement; close resemblance or connection.

[MaBu888]

U got owned, CurttoonSr. Man up. Word up. Word is bond.

[CurttoonSr]

you are an image. look at yourself "trying-to-be-smart"...

sick'n

Die

[tmpfan2]

You are really cute and smart and the world should be full of people like your self.

[oscillatingcats]

It's not really in my character to say such things, but I'll have to agree with tmpfan2.  ;P

[AzoreanProud]

Science is not about dogmas, end the dogmas.

[beastking816]

I think the difference the difference in viewpoint between those who saw this as a spiritual experience and those who saw it as purely scientific has to do with their definition of "spiritual." The way it is known by so many in western society is very different from the way it's understood by those who practicie it or keep it as an every day part of their lives.

[mmtot]

Individuality is an illusion.

[nspeert]

I'm pretty sure that throughout time, and now spirituality is the explanatory band-aid placed over the gaps in our objective scientific understanding. Given that the understanding of the brain still has a long way to go its not surprising that spirituality is ascribed to its phenomenal properties. But I know that as our understanding of the brain piles on, the territory occupied by spiritual description will gradually diminish, but this will only enhance our appreciation of these experiences.

[smudge6699]

Great account, thanks for sharing.

For me it was eternity in an instant, the knowing of all knowing intuitively.

A timeless peace.

The BIG question is how do we enable others to know this?

If we could everyone would know exactly what to do.

[PhilBurningSkies]

great talk redlite. Opens up some interesting thoughts. it made me think of a friend who was very ill with a high fever and fell into a mind state where small geometric shapes were telling/making him lie in different positions on his bed. He claimed he was completely complient with the demands of the shapes because he felt they were a 'higher power' than himself. Incredible! I watched jill's talk and its incredible, she goes a bit too hippy at points for me but amazing experience! Bravo.

[xMarkLastx]

That Taylor "Woman", is nothing but a Tree Hugging, Agenda Laden, Fruitcake.

To answer your question..........."Spirituali­ty" IS very Scientific.

Science....To Know through observation.

[jarl11]

heh well i thought it was more interesting to think about the possibility of a "2nd subject - or a subjection of the subject u might say....." - Adorno - Horheimer style..:) not so much the precarious scientific methodology threatened...

[msticks]

Well Spoken.

[noraui]

Science is the physical analysis of life, spirituality is the mental part of life. They both make up life as a whole.

[DerrickMKnight]

She was on Oprah's Soul Series on XM talking about her book. If you haven't watched it, you should...also you can read the book for free by searching it on google.

[raskaldog]

God, you're friggin' amazing! Watched this several times, but still a lot goes over my head. One thing that happened unexpectedly is that I became and am very attracted to you and would love to make love with you all night. Am I the only one - or only guy - who's experienced this reaction? Just curious. Keep on thinking...exploring, Matthew. Awesome!

[daveymilla]

I have had the thought that energy and spirit are same. All is energy or All is spirit. Energy is process not object. Spirit is same. Spirit is flow - quality and flow. Energy is same. Spirituality is appreciation of connections of stuff. Science is hardnosed evidence based appreciation of same. The path into the subjective is fraught, a game of catching hold of the essential ephemeral and objectifying it. What IS energy, What IS spirit? As harshsmoke said, all perpectives aside, it IS.

[harshsmoke]

Spirituality is completely devoid of religion and I wish people could understand that. Religion separates, spirituality IS.

[DugOLas]

you make spirituality seem like a special little club and make it seem like it's difficult to experience, but everyone is experiencing it already... reality is spirituality, because reality is the one and only existence, and it is beautiful

[onegowen1]

Fasinating! your channel is great too, its like walking into a vast library. Thank you for sharing, love an light x :)

[hovsec]

spirituality is life, science is not

[kusumataji]

RED LITE ROCKET.... you are so beautiful.... i share a neural correlate with you... bless you for using your gift of articulation.... keep goin'!

[LPF767]

I have really enjoyed your videos thus far. Your a natural deep thinker, you USE your brain on a variety of levels and it's most refreshing to see for a change on youtube. I was beyond moved by Jill's presentation and she had thee most remarkable, once in a life time experience, to "leave" her brain's chatter and become the true energy being that she/we all are. Love your videos Matthew. Keep 'em coming. Peace and Blessings~~~

[AMCabode]

I really like what you have said in regards to Jill's talk. I found it inspiring because I had a vaguely similar experience due to innocently mixing prescribed Adderall and LSD, which caused successive dopamine overdose in my brain, I think, for at least 2 years of my life. It is weird when science and spirituality intermix because it causes people to define spirituality, which is not taught to us in the classroom.

[AllahConsciousness]

The very fabric of the universe itself is you, is me, and is indeed every organic being. Every organic observer is the foundation of the universe. Without the eternal observer there is nothing......

"To be, or not to be, that is the question!"

[coreydmt]

keep up the good works...

[ForMyThunder]

What do you mean by a spiritual experience?

[MellumFellum]

The idea that mental phenomena simply do not in any way exist is unscientific. In this sense, such naive materialism is indeed a metaphysical view that has no basis in empiricism (i.e., experience). However, the idea that mental phenomena only relate to a "substance", rather than an abstraction, in physical systems like brains and computer hardware, is well-attested by science. Minds are not a "thing", either in a monistic or in a dualistic and "spirit-filled" world. They are abstract processes.

[redliterocket4]

I agree, though I would just reverse something you said at the very end. Though it is definitely processual, I do not think the mind is the abstraction. Rather, I think what we call the objective material world is the abstraction.

[MellumFellum]

Our understanding of the material world is only a model of the world, and in that sense an abstraction. However, the world itself--whatever is the source of our perceptual data--is not an abstraction, because it would exist even if there was no mind to contain it. Abstractions are imposed upon the world in order to conceptualize physical entities, turn waves and particles into ideas and language. Our senses devour atoms, and our brain spits out thoughts in response, after digesting the data.

[SarahLeeAnn]

Where do you go to school?

[opeksei]

Damn, was supposed to be a reply to morenogabe.

[Bazeado]

Excellent video, you express so succinctly what i find hard to describe most of the time to people. Drugs saved my life. I used to be a very angry person, disconnected from society and nature. After using Entheogens my life changed completely. Psilocybin made me realize we are all connected and even more so our connection to the cosmos. It brought me great peace and happiness. I no longer need to take these substances to reach such an awareness, i just need to be still in a natural surrounding.

[Pandanu]

wow. you're so good at putting into words what the spiritual experience means to so many ppl, myself included. i'm glad this type of interrogation is being carried on, contributing to the momentum of humanity's evolution, & am thrilled to find in your videos another resource for my own personal growth! keep going- you'll touch a lot of ppl.

[morenogabe]

you just said it ! she saw her reality her atoms, molecules ! she never said anything about spirituality. She saw the little atoms and observe how we as molecules, or mass we are. I think you should watch the video and put more attention!!

[opeksei]

That "seeing" the primal constituents of the body and "fusing" with the environment was a result of boundary dissolution and suppression of mental constructs (left hemisphere) including the ego. This sense of oneness with the cosmos i would believe to be an epitome of spiritual experience.

[jaulges]

Einstein's theories of relativity came from "intuition" (intuitive insight?)and most scientists seem to confirm the origin of their thoughts, even the most logical, as an act of flash-like "discovering" (or uncovering)coming from "nowhere"? Thanks for your warm sharing.

I have lived and worked here in France for many long years. I teach, today, with the Compagnons du Devoir. My roof and tile layers are a real joy!

[Domsta333]

you've always got good stuff redliterocket!

The fact is though until scientists get or accept that consensus on the mind, they'll keep reducing anything vast or transcendental to a mental imbalance or an improper mental state...

there was a famous experiment: 'the aether test' it really became about how not to prove the existence of the aether(whether it presently exists is beside the point) but people have (like you said) accepted certain beliefs and will use certain evidence to justify that.

[mf0rz]

welcome to the new "college" ... welcome to your very own self-education... congrads. Feel free to graduate by your own self-will. Science was once only bordered by politics and religeon... and those other two; likewise. As media developed, the 'triangle' became a tetrahedron. &Now we have a correlate of another dimension entirely... I think were off now for more than a brief moment of eternity... this is eternity.

We understand.

[doom876]

Seeing a few more of your videos, I must say, you have wonderful, thought provoking insights. Listening to this has been great. Disagreeing or agreeing with you isn't the issue, hearing a good speech is a growing experience. Not a monumental one, but a significant one for sure. Will enjoy listening to more. Peace! ps, sorry for the long comments

[laroixhaos]

glad i found your channel.

this is very similar to the types of videos i've thought about making. now i feel inspired to save up a little bit for a camcorder.

=)

[SilverPheonix360]

consciousness* =p

[SilverPheonix360]

Another great soul speaks well done Tim.

I would ask the scientist who rejects such things on the basis of saying they are mere chemical and biological reactions a few questions like.

Isn't chemical biological reaction what our current perception of reality is based upon?

Are we not limited whether in right or left brain the our current state of conscience to interpret our perception?

With all this in mind how can we possibly term anything impossible or say something does not exist?

Peace

[spiritofnow]

Actually spirituality has nothing to do with "belief" because it operates on ontological levels of reality beyond thought itself. It wouldn't make sense to ask a living, breathing person whether they "believe" in oxygen; likewise, it makes no sense to ask an advanced yogi if they "believe" in higher realities when they are immersed in them 24/7.

[elgaed42]

Empiricism, as described e.g. by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, is all based upon human experience and the extreme complexity and ever-changing nature of experience--it is rooted in the subjective senses and the certainty that one is perceiving or not perceiving something. Modelling, rationalism, objectivism, rely upon simplifications. This method is useful for when one desires to control one's environment without exerting excessive energy, but simple passive perceptiveness is more 'empirical'.

[benthejrporter]

Very wise and intelligent feedback. Nice one! I was also very impressed and stirred by Jill Bolte Taylor's address. Have you ever seen the TV series "Testing God"? You'd really like it!

[timinator07]

What separates Science from Spirituality is: Ego and guilt.

Cheers, Tim.

[cosmanthony21]

She reminds me of Jodie Foster in Contact when she makes her speech at the end of the movie. While I think that she expresses some excellent things like peace and compassion, I dont like the idea of having to choose right brain or left.

[HiAdrian]

Great video! A topic, i've revisited countless times in monologue.

[jonhatanarx]

Hi friend I like your viewpoint and perspective, best regards

[Yellothar4]

Acknowledging the universe and billions of other people around you- and being able to come out of it with a message of peace and positivity I think is amazing. I don't think it's even necessarily spiritual, what ISN'T amazing about the universe around us? Or our species? Or life itself? I praise Jill Taylor

[abilityoflove]

Science is about objectivity. Just one problem: what does "objective" mean? How can a subjective mind know the objective world?

[redliterocket4]

By sharing and corroborating its findings with a community of others.

[abilityoflove]

Perhaps you should read Kant & Hegel. The pure reason is a deep nature of consciousness.

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[danbit5]

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[danbit5]

forgive me guys but we seen something that none of are teachers seen, we are nuts go away:)we havent seen each other 18 years

[leezus83]

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." Albert Einstein

[mtheoryrules]

facts are nice but faith can save us time.

[melihiver]

I agree.. True spirituality can only come from feeling. It is discouraging how people tend to express an idea of what they call spirituality just by repeating something they've heard. It's dangerous, because all they use is empty words (symbols). But even if someone can really feel, then how does he express that? So, either way, any true experience is cut short due to the limits of our language..

I'm afraid that feeling has lost its power because we don't know how to communicate it. Evolution?

[KevDollarSymbol]

I agree, you bring up the same points that Rick Strassman made during his dmt tests in New Mexico.

[melihiver]

Have you described your own spiritual experience in any of your videos? I can't say I've had a specific experience but this truly spiritual world feels right. I can feel it but haven't experienced it.. And surely can't describe the exact way in which I perceive it.

[redliterocket4]

I did on my old channel, redliterocket4.

[stealth260785]

Have you seen the phamicrtic inquisition, if u havnt you should watch it. Love your Vids man, not enough people like yourself questioning reality.

[radiofriendly]

Thanks for the link (Jill's presentation)  - powerful. Loved seeing her hands outstretched in...adoration?/awe.

[redliterocket4]

you're welcome! it was one of the most moving lectures I've ever watched.

[invanorm]

I have really enjoyed viewing this and some of your other videos- probably because i agree with a lot of what you are saying and have had some very similar thoughts of my own.

If only I was this good at articulating these thoughts...

[zezt]

I saw that AMAZINGLY moving video bout 3 days ago, and have shared it at MAPS. Thanks for bringing it to my awareness.

I have filed it ;)

hope ya enjoyed the Ralph Metzner interview I pmed you?

In it he talks about 'expanded consciousness'.

This can very much mean that you suddenly become aware what is happening to your surroundings!

He gives example of two types of looking at a tree

[zezt]

A certain scientific observation may analyze the tree into parts functions and so on. But to FEEEEL the tree, one may require a pinch of psychedelic.

Would this mean that the hard boiled scientists after having been a devil and tried some would change his/her analytical ways?

[zezt]

It depends on how much scientists has embraced hir view of reality. If very materialistic s/he may claim that the deep experience they had of tree and air and bird and body was 'distortion' of 'proper brain-function'

I wouldn't know how to get through to that type of person!

[zezt]

But you try;))) Man, dont think about it; after reading this google amazon and get The Spell of the Sensuous, David Abram. JUST DO IT.

less you've read it already LOL

[rumple81]

Jill's video was amazing. I think the supramental is gradually beginning to assert itself more and more.

[milestonedd]

Phenomenological space time corporeality Hume Freud Kant, linear being. Consciousness of self-consciousnesses metaphysical relity ontological understanding. The being grasped by its very nature to be the foundation of the value of all values on a dragons scale God is Dead consciousness sees itself, but it is really not itself for what it saw int he object was only itself unmodified by the perception. Science Wissenschaft ontological gap hermeneutical structure's of being proposition.

[isismelting]

obviously i'm missing something here: who possibly reacted negatively to mz. taylor's dissertation?  how one could not react positively is inconceivable to me.

[redliterocket4]

read the comments from the brain video

[utubeisdi]

if i were to want said transcendental experience, should i take psilocybin or lsd? thanks redlite.

[isismelting]

either one might get you to christ -- but you can only stay a few hours.

[utubeisdi]

ive decided on shrooms, thanks guys

[ifurn0]

Shrooms are good, just don't over do them :)

[riverran67]

I really wish you were right.

[isismelting]

god i do too.

[patternsinchaos]

Wow. Ok so I just watched the video thanks for tuning me into this. Now watching your comments.

[f417h]

Enjoyed the media suggested :)

many thanks, much appreciated

OM

[simonodell]

thanks for sharing this link it was very interesting.

[GeraldP1983]

Very well done Matt, thanks for this!!! :)

[tyrbolo]

It all revolves around the interpretations we

place on the events we observe. All she did is

say what she experienced at the time and she

felt it deserved to be shared. So a brain can

experience what Zen has said all along about getting the mind to shut up for a minute..lol

[b2outwit]

Wow! I just watched Jill Bolte Taylor's TED video & I was captivated. Her insight is amazing! Thanks for pointing me to it. I enjoyed your commentary, as well.  Keep up the great work!!

[dianaroo12]

does "beliefs" come from the left side of the brain? are "beliefs" what people use for their comfort zone? real science is our way of understanding ultimate reality..which maybe can never be known or understood by the mind! thank you!

[TheDoveLady]

I saw her give that speech and I understand it as it is goes right along with the understanding I am getting from reading about God in Walter Russell's book, "The Secret of Light". God explains God's self in that book so well and it is a scientific way of looking at God. Not many people have ever even heard of this book but I think it is a "must read" for it explains so many things about God, who we are in relation to God and to all that is. Want to read it, contact me if you do.

[HaleyMary]

I also think spirituality is about experiences. I have always separated religion and spirituality even before I decided to be an atheist. I have always thought of religion as beliefs in gods and an after life and spirituality as life experiences.